F

Is the story finished?

I never played Blue Reflection Sun and I don't want to try, but I hope that the people who have played the game enjoy it until the end. F.

And to think that today is the 7th anniversary of Blue Reflection in Japan, it's been 7 years since the release of the first game in that country...*if* the end of Blue Reflection Sun really is the end of Blue Reflection in general, then we can say that the franchise ended not with a bang but with a whimper (or a disappointment)...we'll see.

>>1439081
>I hope that the people who have played the game enjoy it until the end
I hope not. I hope they feel miserable about it.

At least they will finish the story even if they have to rush it. I hope we get another game but this is just copium at this point.

>>1439103
Hopefully another game with harem. These JKs are asking to be punished.

>>1438995
Maybe the ending is or will be rushed, but the story is finished, at least, I want to think that it's finished.

I really hope some anon could archieve the game and all of its assets so we can mod it offline later

>>1439261
Be the change you want to see

>>1439324
I cant even log into the game
Lot of anons here have been playing since months. They can share the game assets (APKs + obb files + something else I forgot)

>yuri-lite magical girl franchise
>go full het
What was the point of fracturing an already niche franchise?

>>1440229
Surely some fired executive thought it was the path to success

>>1440295
Mel wanted a male mc since the first game but got shot down until now.

>>1440473
Gust should stop working with him forever.

>>1440665
He's so hilariously proud of creating a self insett.

On a serious note, are there any repositories of BRA cards? I am down bad for some of these girls.

>>1441109
https://exhentai.org/g/2860619/a65f2d2225/

Mel just confirmed that he had to censor a lot of stuff because he tried to appeal to a global audience
https://twitter.com/mellco/status/1775015963785904451

>>1441427
I feel like you should worry about this after your game is confirmed for a global release.

>>1441427
What global audience lmao

>>1441427
This says nothing about a global audience. He just said he wanted more people to understand it, most likely self-inserters.

>>1441427
>make game that runs purely off A E S T H E T I C
>gameplay is terrible
>decide to expand games universe by appealing to more audiences
>shoe string budget anime that didn't even have an official home release
>greater scope sequel game is at best just okay
>self-insert gacha game in a fucking magical girl franchise
I promise you anon, Blue Reflection's failure has nothing to do with the lack of feet shots and bath tub scenes.

>>1441679
>Blue Reflection's failure has nothing to do with the lack of feet shots and bath tub scenes
Yes it does

>>1441427
Global audience???

>>1441427
>Said the Yuri was completely accidental
>Didn't realize people enjoyed Yuri
>Made the emperor self insert since he wanted romance
>Expected it to be well received because he liked it
>Didn't expect it to do so poorly
>Angry fans didn't like his self insert
>If given the chance would make br again
>Would again add a male self insert
Is this guy just a fucking dumbass? No sense of self reflection.

>>1441801
I dont see how making the first game with a male self insert would have been that difficult in the first place, maybe hes a sore loser that his male protag wasnt as well received as he thought.

>>1441427
This franchise is doomed

>>1441808
I'm sure someone at Gust talked him down by blaming tech limitations. I personally don't think it's even worth talking about stuff like his "vision" for the franchise because at the end of the day, I don't think there really is a coherent one.

>>1442000
We've known this Ray.

>>1442061
Who knows maybe if it started as a hetero harem franchise (if that was indeed the plan) and built a fanbase from there it could have saved itself, the only appeal from this genre shift was making the yuri part of the existing fanbase to leave, I guess that appeals to some people.

>>1441427
>You’re unable to view this Post because this account owner limits who can view their Posts
Lmao is he afraid of getting backlash or something?

>>1442834
It's still showing for me

>>1442836
Are you following him?

>>1442839
Nope but I'm logged in if that makes a difference

>>1442845
Kek I know the reason now. I'm actually blocked by him.

>>1442849
Heh good riddance

>>1442851
I never actually interacted with any of his tweets. If I'm blocked that would mean he was seething at me talking about yuri under a few of BR Sun's tweets early last year. Looks like this guy really loves his self-insert. This is so fucking hilarious.

>>1442865
What the hell, that's so bizarre

>>1442904
This happens often when a male writer discovers his writing appeals to women,not other men.They somehow think they didn't write a straight enough story and overcompensate so hard they lose both audiences.

>>1442914
He isn't a writer, but an artist. The gacha's writer did Ar Tonelico and co before.
The normal games were written by other people as well.

>>1438930 (OP)
Is really no one going to rip the 3d models? How do you extract the assets?

>>1442914
>writer
Retard

Which reflectors where built for stacy FeMC Ao and which were built for self-insert kun?

>>1443522
Yes you are.

>>1443690
Keep doubling down sister

>>1441427
>global audience
Did he mean the whole franchise was censored? Or just BRS?

>>1445437
Whole franchise after 1

>>1445546
And that's one reason Tie and Sun failed?

>>1446206
Tie was just a normal game. The anime failed, and this obviously. No surprise with Sun though.

The problem just exists when different people do different parts. People who liked BR 1, will likely enjoy 2 (Tie) as well, because it's the same team. But the anime was written by someone else and garbage. And then the gacha ended up doing things once again so differently, the fans of the game(s) largely don't give a shit. But a lot of fans of Ar Tonelico give no shit about BR, completely aside of potentially not even KNOWING that the BR gacha is more that than BR.

This was a multi-media project done wrong.

Based

Self insert fags take another L

>>1446216
Am I reading this right? This gacha game was closer to Ar Tonelico than BR? I need some context. I loved the PS2 games.

CASE 10 part 2 it's out now
https://twitter.com/BRSUN_game/status/1777607383281447328

>>1446695
>more JK sluts
nice

>>1446695
As long as Hinako gets a happy ending I'll be happy

>>1446695
>>1446756
Pantsu?

Mel posting some Yukiko designs that will never make it to the game now

>>1447411

Also this

>>1447413

Any updates ripping the 3d models and the other assets?

>>1448350
No gachafag knows about game rpping or any kind of job. Go ask /wsr/ or /agdg/

>>1448658
Playing gacha is a full time job

Is this the only banner we're getting? Should I start dumping everything I have in there?

>>1441427
and here, i was waiting for a global release, TT, I'll stick to atelier

Happy birthday Hiori

Looks like they're still going to do the whole log in to get a 10pull ticket of the birthday character

>>1450018
I want to blow a load inside her

>>1450018
>>1450019
Post Hiori pantsu

>>1450224
There you go, her panties...in Blue Reflection: Second Light.

>>1442817
It was magical girl/slice of life girl drama stuff with some extremely light yuri on the side. It wasn't just the yuri audience they drove away and I doubt they were the majority of the fanbase in the first place.

I'd say it's a similar audience to Atelier. It has yuri elements but that's not necessarily why people are there.

The next part of Case 10 comes out tomorrow

>>1447411
>>1447412
butt spikes

>>1450624
>extremely light yuri
>like Atelier
Liking Gust games in general isn't weird, but unlike Atelier, Blue Reflection 2 has a not deniable explicit lesbian pair. That's more than a ton of "yuri" games can offer, especially because this pair isn't just some minor side cast, but actually part of the main cast.

In other words it's more explicit than Nights of Azure, another yuri-ish Gust game. (with god awful gameplay, because the only Gust thing was actually the name and music, but the actual dev was named differently before and the staff just transferred due to TK branding)


It's just a weird project. If you wanna do Ar Tonelico, do that. If you wanna do Blue Reflection, do that. Why call it one thing and make the other? I said this before, but I like both but would never want one to be the other.

>>1450941
My point wasn't about how explicit the yuri in either series is, it was that they both have a wider audience outside yuri and that most of that audience was also pushed away by BR turning into a self insert harem story.

I don't know what Mel was smoking when he decided the same audience that enjoyed character driven magical girl slice of life high school drama would want to see those same characters in a harem. Maybe KT/Gust have been tard wrangling him this whole time and dealing with DMM finally let him loose.

>>1450498
What about her pantsu in Sun?

>>1451098
If yurifags were only a minority of BR fans, why were they the ones most upset about Sun being a harem game?

>>1451135
>minority
checks out

>>1451134
Who knows. Maybe the design is the same, Lime wears the same underwear in Blue Reflection Sun, it just looks lower resolution compared to the PS4 games, so, perhaps Hiori wears the same panties in Blue Reflection Sun.

>>1451862
Blue Archive games in general look very low budget. I've seen indies that mog the fuck out of these. Nip publishers always doing the bare fucking minimum.

>>1452820
*Blue Reflection

>>1438930 (OP)
Good riddance. I hate it when games get gachafied. I hope the devs of Tie and Sun choke on cocks for making Ruka non-existent after Ray.

>>1453025
You must be a Ruka fan then.

CASE [Last] on Friday
https://twitter.com/BRSUN_game/status/1783405590771044784

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueReflection/comments/1cd4ibg/need_help_with_old_assets_for_sun/

Wait someone's making an offline version of the game?

>>1458542
Chance should be guaranteed

>>1458540
I didn't understand anything and it sucked. Apparently it just continued into Second Light regardless? but it's a different loop. Also Shiho and Aleshia suddenly love each other for some reason. I wish I could just forget this story.

>>1458202
Did he rip the pantsu?

good, another "yuri" lbgt game bites the dust.

>>1459087
You might be retarded. It was the exact opposite of that.

>>1459103
good, another lbgt "yuri" game bites the dust.

>>1458630
Did it at least tie all the loose ends? There were quite a few left, like Ao's backstory, what led to the World System's creation, the Shijou family, whatever happened to Uta between Ray and Tie. Also, the story was always hinting at Ayami playing a more significant role towards the end, but did that big reveal actually happen? She obviously knew way more than she let on, but I gave up on following the main story after Chapter 8 since it was going nowhere

>>1458202
For fucks sake remove GameGuard and such anti tamper protections. The game ever run with those enabled. I want to play on desktop too

>>1459124
nothing got solved.

The final battle with Uta doesn't even have original music...disappointing but not surprising.

>>1459830
Yes, she is, and the music for the final battle is Toshitake -Hien-...

>>1458433
The situation is quite crappy at this point, so I might as well give a try to check assets for mobile. I didn't investigate it yet but I might not be able to use them as is for PC version because of possible incompatibility, aside of being obviously lower resolution (which sucks but better than nothing). So I probably would have to manually "convert" ~50 files, not sure if I would still have enough motivation to go through that.

>>1459084
I don't know a thing about 3D models. Necessary assets are certainly there, and there is no protection to read files. Most likely you can easily get what you need.

>>1459153
As far I know, devs disabled GG at some point, I think it was about 2 months ago. Some files of it are still in game folder but I am quite positive they don't do a thing. The very least, it does not give me any errors which it would normally produce.

>>1460003
No one understood what it mean so wait a few weeks we get a grasp or more events to explain it

>>1458202
>>1460041
How different is this game from Atelier Resleriana?
Wasnt it meant to be the same game but different skinned?
If one gets offline patched then other one will happen too. You may use Resleriana for PC version

>>1460179
Not really sure why you would ask me that question. I didn't play and have no plans to try Atelier Resleriana so can't comment on how it was meant to be and if anyone would try making offline version of it.
I played and likes first two BR games and played Sun, and despite not liking Sun I still wanted to try preserving it anyway because it's most likely the end of the series.

>>1460179
This game wishes it was Atelier Resleriana.
It was fucking garbage and I'm still mad I even bothered playing it.

About assets request, looks like I can use files from Android version, so I updated the post on Reddit. If you have suitable files, please let me know.

>>1461086
Great, really hope that it works out!

>>1461087
Like I mentioned on Reddit, there are model files which are implied to be fbx but I don't know how to handle them for unity case, For example, UABEAvalonia seems to recognize the content but how to export them - I don't know. Almost all game assets will be supplied with offline server, including models and textures, so it won't be fully lost for time being,

Just in case, here all files related to models, as far I can see - https://mega.nz/file/5c8RSTjD#7uRF2KMUkHK15NaX12gm4snIlBJWlfde5-mGybI67cQarp24d

>>1461166
Thank you! But unfortunately, it did not have old assets as well. It happened a number of times already that I am not sure anymore, either you also had your cache reset when gameguard was added, or the game actually clears some older assets on its own.

Atelier Resleriana player here. Can someone explain how these Unity files work? What should I look for?
>>1461196
>or the game actually clears some older assets on its own.
Did list files since three last versions or Resleriana and can comfirm the game DO delete them and replace them with similar size files
For example events screen get replaced every update so it always contains all the available events hence last update has a smaller final size

>>1461157
>Encryption Key Required
Well, that's great. Can you upload the sound-related files also?

>>1461273
That's weird, somehow some extra text appended at the end of the link ("arp24d"), not sure why. Let's try again - https://mega.nz/file/5c8RSTjD#7uRF2KMUkHK15NaX12gm4snIlBJWlfde5-mGybI67cQ. Sound files - like music, or in a broader sense?

>>1461267
Damn if it's so. From what I could see, Sun generally keep older version of assets (it's like "some_file_abc/revision_2", "some_file_abc/revision_5" etc), but I didn't have an opportunity to see how many it can keep if it's limited. So far I have seen 5 revisions for a single asset file.

>>1461322
A broader one. Character Voices from the Story, to the Events, to the Battle quotes.

>>1461327
Alright. Unlike 3D model files, I have some idea about using sound files, I checked music files at some point. Those are FSB5 (after you extract data from asset files ofc), I personally used a script for QuickBMS (script https://pastebin.com/ERC6Du5S, was once on their forum but iirc it got lost or something) to convert them to something that I could play in foobar, most likely same approach works for other sound files.
Btw, better to backup archives that I post if needed, I don't plan to keep them for long.

https://mega.nz/file/5VdFXQKB#KeWMwSorVON-O1GSmvZUgX7FBnXP6lqplrP02IFi6-c

Whats the status on offline mode and local server?

>>1461609
I have most of things done. Functionally it's finished, I am just trying to fix the issue of missing very old assets for events (need to find those who played it during Feb-June 2023 and not later, did not find anyone at all so far), and release right after eos happens (so in June).

>>1461362
Just finished downloading the .zip file since MEGA decided to be a bit of a snail than I expected. I will try and see if that script of yours works like a charm. Thanks for the hard work, bud.

>>1461636
Could you give me hand?
Im trying to achieve the same but on Atelier Resleriana Steam version. So far I only got rid of Steam DRM (the game stucks after KT splash screen)
What should I do next and how?

>>1462335
Well, it's quite individual, case by case. Without checking the game myself, I can only give general suggestions which not necessary would work for Resleriana.

The core thing would be figuring out game API, the way it communicates with official server. From what I have seen lately, majority of games use AES for network encryption, and a number of times I have seen them using Protobuf for network data. Personally, I find it easier to investigate Android versions of games (well, partially because I hardly had games with Windows client) because it's easier to setup a proxy to intercept game traffic. I personally use mitmproxy as a proxy, it supports SSL (if you install certificate, you need root on phone/emulator) and scripting (Python)

As far I can see, the game uses Unity. So, I would personally suggest first to try Il2CppDumper on Android version to extract text data (stringliteral.json). There you might try to look for base64 strings and see if you get mentions of proto in decoded data. If yes then quite good, though it's going to be a pain to extract and compile the full list of those, not going to cover it here. Second thing would be trying to look for weird random strings of letters/digits/characters which are exactly 16 and 32 characters long - some of those most probably are keys and IVs for AES encryption which might be used for network encryption or/and game data. You would need to experiment with those and try to decrypt game traffic (some game were passing IV in request headers).

That would be first thing I would be trying first.

>>1462379
>custom proxy
>rooted phone
>emulator
How did you not get banned?

>>1462485
Generally if game developers don't like emulators or root, they would do their best to make the game not runnable.

In my case, I don't really need root all the time. Enable root, add SSL certificate for proxy, and revert root back. For emulator you might not even need root if you have means to add certificate file by other means like editing data file/image. And proxy, I haven't seen games which would have issues about network proxy, and it's not that trackable if it's used.

>>1438930 (OP)
Rest in piss and good fuckin riddance
Hope they force Mel to commit seppuku
Too bad about the franchise tho i would have been better if it just quietly died after second game rather then last game being this abomination

I think Mel has lost it
his account has just been him posting pictures of himself crossdressing

>>1463858
He's crossdressed many times before and he's currently doing it as a gimmick for the maid cafe he runs.
Plus he's always been insane.

>>1463862
I know he's done it before but the frequency in which he's now posting made me assume he went nuclear.

>>1463869
EoS broke him...

So, I want to ask, do we already know the exact lyrics of the Blue Reflection Sun boss theme? The game will end soon and I still don't know the exact lyrics of that rap song. I really like the Blue Reflection Sun boss theme even though it's very different compared to other battle songs in the games, but...what is that man singing?

I can undersand that during the first 50 seconds he says ''so it's back into grind yeah'', ''who's gonna make the change to save...'' and ''pick up the ashes to be the ruler'' and I don't understand the rest very well. The song then says ''soul will always seek the truth within you'' and ''will you break the code in this world?!''...at least that's what I think. After that the lyrics are easy to understand for the most part (My soul's on fire'', ''the soul will always seek the truth'', ''rule or be ruled''...).

Some people say that Hayato Asano himself is the person singer of that song, regardless if it's him or not it really sounds like someone trying to sing like Lotus Juice and the result is a *great* song in my opinion, but yeah, I don't know the exact lyrics and the previous lyrics are assuming that I'm not mishearing the lyrics...I can't believe I'm the first person who mentions that rap song...

So did the story ended as intended or was bothed up in order to fit within EOS date?

About old game assets. I was doing some checks and it seems there is a probability that iOS version of Sun. I tried checking if it's possible to access game assets on iOS with one of active players, normal file manager didn't show game data at all, so we randomly tried iMazing and surprisingly got access to some data. Unfortunately, for some reason that app could dump only upper level of game cache folder (it created folders for bundles but they were empty, no revision subfolders). I checked at least those folders and spotted folders for some old assets which are not supposed to remain by now if the game is cleaning those, so just maybe all old assets remain. I googled and couldn't find a way to access files there without jailbreaking.

If you played the game around spring 2023 on iOS and did not delete it yet, and have your phone jailbroken - I would appreciate your help.

A>>1467764
That's a nice looking PS1 game

>>1467764
>harem ending
Nice

Well, I guess we don't really know the exact lyrics of this song. In any case, I love it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcmTGOd2ZuA&ab_channel=%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A3%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89

>>1468754
They never give lyrics to go with these tracks anyway. At least the song is there and you can make out most of the words since it's all in English.

BR as an IP has a lot of potential and they fucked it up. I haven't read through all of the thread yet but I hope this isn't the end.

>>1467764
>>1468035
Post pantsu

>>1468923
She doenn't appear in the group but here you go. Lime wears the same panties in every game, but her underwear looks better in the console games. Using the words of MonoSaaaN Gaming: ''This is BLUE REFLECTION''...

>>1438930 (OP)
ok

Towa is dead too

Will this come to ps5?

>>1474941
Blue ReflectIon Sun, no, obviously. I don't deny the possibility that someday we might get a native Blue Reflection game for PS5 and not just the PS4 games with backwards compatibility, there are a few Atelier games with PS5 versions, so, a Blue Reflection game for PS5 is not impossible, but Blue Reflection Sun for PS5 will not happen, that's for sure.

Is BRS dying really the end of the franchise?

>>1476159
That remains to be seen but it's possible.

What have you all been doing during these last days?
I've been spending all my gems and tickets on cards so I can read their scenarios

I haven't played the game in many months and just came to check the thread to see how it was doing and read about the EoS just now. Nyooooo.....

One week (or less) before the end of service. At least Blue Reflection Sun has great music and beautiful 2D art by Mel Kishida. The game itself however, I was never going to play it and I won't miss it.

>>1478694
I want the time I spent playing this game back.

>>1478834
*Only* the time spent? You did not spend money in Blue Reflection Sun? I hope not at least, because once a gacha game dies, it is gone for good.

Are all the frag cards going to be available in the offline mode that's been worked on?

>>1476159
>BR is nich franchise
>Large part of it's fanbase is compose of yurifags
>Yurifags went nuclear after they announced sun will be harem with male MC declared franchise as dead and forgot it exist
I mean it's possible but with half of fanbase hating it and Mel being stubborn about male MC i doubt it.

>>1480079
Your comment is invalid because you used the word ''yurifags'' and the word ''fag'' is a slur. Yuri fans in any case but the use of that term...no. It's also worth mentioning that IPs developed by Gust sometimes have yuri content, not just Blue Reflection but also Nights of Azure for example, the first game was even released in 2016 before the first Blue Reflection and especially Second Light with Rena and Yuki, so, it's not like Yuri content in a game with the Gust or Koei Tecmo logo is something new.

>>1479986
Yes, all cards are available.

Offline thing is finished at this point (had to make up some assets because could not find people who would had files), so I am just waiting for 30th when official server goes off.

How many days left until the game dies for good?

>>1481411

A bit under 2 days.

Will the offline version get rid of Gameguard or similar?

>>1481933

As far I see, GG was disabled a few months ago in official version, and ofc not active in offline as well, unless I miss something obvious. If you name specifically what kind of things it did, I can recheck, I don't recall it well myself.

>>1482013
Is this the end of the franchise?

Well, these are the final moments of Blue Reflection Sun, at least the original version. If the offline version is a success, in other words, if an offline version genuinely works and is successfully released...good luck. I hope the people (mostly in Japan) who played Blue Reflection Sun had a great time, the game is officially coming to an end and it's a controversial and polarizing Blue Reflection game, some people consider Blue Reflection Sun a bad game, but hey, at least the game has a beautiful version of ''BLUE REFLECTION''. F. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXmJ6lNNlY&ab_channel=mokkou

I was the original OP that made first thread and the Closed Beta Test thread and well as the anon posting the twitter updates
Thanks sticking by while I was shilling the game

>>1482182
What will you miss

Alright, I restored the post on Reddit with offline release, so you can give it a try now. I posted it a week ago but it was hidden by automod, so I decided that I might as well wait till the last day. I hope it's not a total mess of bugs.

>>1482294
Thanks anon

>>1482294
Based. I'll try it after work

Gonna miss it not gonna lie. I'll be checking out the offline mode just to read all the frag cards I couldn't got

On one hand, I admire the creator's stubbornness in enforcing his vision for the series. On the other hand, I am disappointed that his path leads to a miserable end for one of the few mahou shoujo video game series. I really wonder what the future holds for Gust as a whole.

>>1482552
The Gust channel on YouTube hasn't uploaded anything in 10 months, I would say that Atelier Resleriana is making a lot of money and it remains to be seen if Gust/Koei Tecmo will announce a new Atelier game specifically for consoles and PC, in the case of Blue Reflection however, a new main game for consoles and PC is even more unlikely compared to the Atelier franchise.

>>1482828
Resleriana is flopping as well, not even Gyaru Ryza could save it. It's not looking good for Gust.

>>1482845
Nip gachas are all shit

>>1482845
Did the censorship kill it?

>>1482852
Well, this isn't the Atelier and Gust General thread, but it's a fact that the censored Plachta design for example affected the popularity of the game in some way, most people who play gacha games don't like censored designs and censorship in general.

>>1482873
If people don't like censorship then how come Aster isn't dead yet?

>do 1 last pull
>got kabedon Alessia
Cool. Can't wait to read it's scenario later on the offline mode

https://x.com/BRSUN_game/status/1796013665294115067
It's officially over

>>1482996

Is it safe to delete the app now? Does the guy that runs the offline mode need anything else?

I wonder if the end of service means that the X account will be deleted, it doesn't have a reason to exist anymore. Oh well, I guess I'll see if more Blue Reflection content is announced or released in the near future. If the calendar reads february 2025 and nothing has been released *or* announced by that time...we can take for granted that Blue Reflection is dead.

>>1483055

Yeah, should be fine. That bunch of files I asked was the only time I needed something, there is nothing else I would need.

>>1483169
Got it.. gonna check out that offline mode
Thanks for all your hard work

>>1483065
Pretty sure it's dead, if a series' gacha dies then usually that entire series dies as a result.

>>1483365
Only if the gacha is your main medium. Nothing will prevent them from making BR3 besides lack of profitability.

>>1482845
Where are you getting this info?

>>1482294
Wait Id swear there were only a mobile version of BRS

>>1483645

Well, a bit late but now you know about desktop version too. During CBT there were indeed only Android and iOS versions but official release also got one for Windows right away.

>>1483665
Can we mod the PC version?

>>1483666

I suppose yes, at least to some degree. Originally it was using C# based libraries which was making the game quite easily moddable (it was using Assembly-CSharp) but around November they switched to compiled C++ (GameAssembly), making it tougher to mod game code. But if it's a matter of editing game resources and not code then it should be pretty simple even for latest version, to my understanding.

>>1483600
https://game-i.daa.jp/

So... What now?

>>1483915
We wait and see if Gust doesn't die.

>>1483666
>>1483674
Its doable but a pain the ass
Assuming it shares the exact engine of Resleriana you may follow its guide
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/225069-request-atelier-resleriana-forgotten-alchemy-and-the-polar-night-liberator/

>>1483921
I'd be sad and happy if this actually does kill Gust

clearly this should have been a roguelike deckbuilder instead

>>1484324
This is an underrepresented gacha genre so I'd have to agree

>>1438930 (OP)
YURICHAD HERE GET FUCKED

>>1484353
chads would prevented this from ever being a gacha

>>1482294
Thank you anon
Outside of the problems listed in the ReadMe it works fine
I'm glad this shit will not become lost media like 90% of mobile games

>>1484391

You're welcome!

It might still become lost media when links expire which will happen sooner or later, and no alternative sources being created.

>>1484353
Then why are you posting a picture with 2 straight girls?

>>1484441
Classical yuribaiting

>>1482294
How did you manage savefile system?

>>1484800

Original plan when I was trying to implement a proper private server a year ago was to use some database (mysql or sqlite), but for this standalone version I just went with files in format which are stored in "configs/api_data" folder of server. Normally, saving data like this in files is a terrible idea but taking the scale into account, it's imo acceptable.

>>1484800
>>1484803

* in json format.

>>1462379
>Second thing would be trying to look for weird random strings of letters/digits/characters which are exactly 16 and 32 characters long - some of those most probably are keys and IVs for AES encryption which might be used for network encryption or/and game data.
Been collecting lot of them... Are they meant to be the very same keys for every platform?

>>1483402
>Nothing will prevent them from making BR3
Actually Blue Reflection Sun is BR3

>>1486964

If you mean keys being common between PC and mobile versions then from my experience keys tend to be same.

So is Blue Reflection actually dead or what

>>1490256
Maybe, we'll see. I'll say it again, ''If the calendar reads february 2025 and nothing has been released *or* announced by that time...we can take for granted that Blue Reflection is dead.

At least Blue Reflection Sun, yeah, the gacha game is officially dead, but hey, at least one can still play the other two games, and I definitely recommend those games, especially Blue Reflection: Second Light.

How do I play the game if I dont know japanese?

>>1490783
You don't. If you *really* want to play the unofficial offline version for PC (for some reason), then use google translate or something, otherwise don't bother with that.

Welp, DMM games has deleted every video of Blue Reflection Sun on YouTube, DMM Games (the YouTube Channel) doesn't have a single Blue Reflection Sun video, not anymore.

Well...that's it then, it's over. If someone asks me, that's another reason to close the thread (but I can't do that of course), Blue Reflection Sun is dead and there is not a trace of PVs on that channel, pack up...it's over.

>>1491606
That fucking sucks
Is DMM evil enough to go after content creators and take down their BRS videos too?
I have this playlist with almost all the frag cards scenarios. Is it time to save these videos too?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBpATMLaT6Bd6PByWv_507tWfFKerHrtU

>>1491606
Huh, why would they wipe everything? Weird

>>1491739
Waste of space. No point tricking people advertising a game is no more.

>>1491729
>>1491771
Have they never heard of archives? Like keeping stuff up as an archive of the past? If anything, keeping up videos of lost media is even more important since they're, well, lost.

>>1491606
>>1491852
The fuck? Most of the dead mobage I know of keep their YouTube videos despite their shut down years ago. I wonder what's going on at the HQ and if they will target their Twitter account next.

>>1491729
NTA but
>Is it time to save these videos too?
Yes. Dont waste time
Also feel free to ask in case you need help with Youtube downloaders

>>1491729
I don't think that DMM Games will go after YouTube channels that have Blue Reflection Sun videos, channels such as Misora000, chaka chaka and deilost for example, those channels will be fine, at least that's what I want to think, but if anyone wants to preserve those videos or content, feel free to save or download those videos.

>>1491984
I take for granted the the Twitter account will be deleted at some point in the future, if DMM Games deleted every video that they uploaded on the official channel, then it's a fact that the Twitter account will be deleted too I would say, who knows, if they'll delete that too.

>>1492074
>Misora000, chaka chaka and deilost for example, those channels will be fine
Yeah but I don't trust DMM or YouTube to keep some videos up
Don't really care about the BRS videos since I already downloaded the offline version so I'll backup the panties mod videos of Misora

>>1492436
Link sto those vids?

The game failed because Uta wasnt the mc

>>1491606
Fuck, I forgot to download the full opening song video they had of サケニタイス.

>>1491729
Is there something like this but Blue Reflection Second Light dates?

>>1495138
Its over

>>1491606
It's for the best really.

>>1495138
Where can I download the whole song?

>>1500252
You can't

>>1501378
Nyo

when will you gacha heads learn

>>1503195
Learn what?

>>1495138
Did anyone else archive it?

Is the franchise still alive?

>>1507876
Probably not. Blue Reflection: Second Light was released more than 2 years ago and the next game developed by Gust is Fairy Tail 2.

>Gust made an Atelier gacha
>it's censored
>it's already doing badly and Japanese people expect it to EoS sooner or later
What went so horribly wrong?

>>1511322
They expected Ryza could carry the whole franchise on her thighs but they totally overestimated how much people could tolerate their bullshit. They should stop making mobage in general. The market has changed so much in recent years, and they clearly can't adapt to it.

Did anyone manage to edit text gamefiles?
Im trying to use Unity autotransaltor but both BepinEx and MelonLoader failed to even run the game

>>1511382
Maybe if they made an uncensored or at least minimally censored game it could stand out and thus have a chance at success.

>>1511322
Gust is run by incompetent retards who occasionally capture lightning in a bottle.

So... time to let the thread die or still keep it alive? The game is dead and seemingly so too is the franchise.

>>1513922
I say, time to let the thread die, Blue Reflection Sun is dead and the purpose of this thread was to complement the final moments of the game, something to enjoy before Blue Reflection Sun ends, and now the game is unplayable (officially) and it's dead, so...this thread doesn't need to remain open anymore, that's what I would say.

>>1514041
But is Blue Reflection (the franchise) really dead?

>>1511322
Have you seen how braindead their gachas are? Unless it has amazing production values like Uma Musume or Honkai Star Rail it's not gonna work. Times have changed.

>>1514942
Unless Mel wants to pay out of pocket for another entry then I'd say it's pretty much buried.

>>1514961
Is it dead because BRS died or it was dead after Tie and Ray both bombed?

>>1511322
besides censorship, why'd it bomb? i thought it would do great. i only played it for a day and didn't comeback because i got bored, plus censorship didn't help.

>>1515270
That post is just disingenuous. The revenue is pretty average and has been consistent outside the high launch month.

>>1515282
Yes but apparently there are mumblings about it shutting down soon anyway. I mean, Towa Tsugai was also having average revenue yet that meant jack shit.

I still can't believe Blue Reflection is dead.

>>1515251
Its dead because of boring BR1 was.
Releasing BR Tie as first game leaving BR1 and Ray as shady prequels would have attracted way more players and give better face to this franchise
>>1515282
Its not not going at loss but making profitable enough. Resleriana is doomed to the same fate but Gust wont admit it

Well Aster is dead soon, guess Atelier is next.

We just can't win...

And now Re LIVE is dead too.

All the games are dying

>Het games die
>But yuri games die too
What went wrong?

>>1536684
nip gachas are too low quality

How do we save Blue Reflection?

>>1540138
Unironically sell it to the gooks. Whoever bought Hi-Fi Rush should also acquire Blue Reflection.

>... still no new game announcements or material of any kind
Is the property dead?

>>1543005
Right now Gust is busy with Fairy Tail 2 which will be released this December and if not, early next year at the latest, but yeah, Blue Reflection is dead, probably. If we don't get an announcement by february 2025, then, we can say ''Blue Reflection is dead'', for now, that remains to be seen...I guess.

>>1543248
Why February 2025?

>>1544269
Because Fairy Tail 2 will be released in February 2025 at the latest, the game will be released ''this winter'' and that means December this year, or January/February 2025 at the latest, so, if the calendar says February 15, 2025 (using a random day as an example) and by then we still don't have an announcement about Blue Reflection, then that will be enough to say, without a doubt, yes, Blue Reflection (in general) is dead. Obviously this is without even considering the possibility (fact?) that there are several development teams in Gust and they don't just develop one game, if we still don't have something in february next year, then, even more reason to think that the franchise is dead...man, what a long comment.

>>1544471
I don't want Blue Reflection to die yet.

>>1544471
Of course Gust isn't just having one team. It's been like that for a while.

TK put a lot of other "teams" inside of Gust.

>>1548524
Fascinating. It doesn't change the fact that the franchise has an uncertain future after the failure of Blue Reflection Sun. It doesn't matter if Blue Reflection Sun made money or not, the game made money, how much who knows but it wasn't something that made Gust and/or DMM games lose money (really, it was a game with a shoestring budget, like the other Blue Reflection games and especially the first one...maybe), even so, it was a game that lasted around 18 months or a year and a half, and if there is something that MapleStory, Team Fortress 2, Genshin Impact and other free to play games have proven...is that less than 2 years for a game like that is very little time. Don't hold your breath for a new Blue Reflection game...or anything to be honest.

>NetEase and Tencent are struggling

>>1554724
That's neither here nor there, unless NetEase or Tencent owns DMM Games or something...if that isn't the case, they are irrelevant when it comes to the Blue Reflection IP and the (more or less) failure of Blue Reflection Sun.

>>1555062
Yes, but still

Just let it die

>>1548898
The original game seems to have done well but their attempts at turning it into a big multimedia franchise with more mainstream appeal crashed and burned. Many such cases.

>>1561087
Would it have done better had it not been for the censorship?

>>1561087
Based chinksults

>>1563221
The anime flopped too.

Now that BR is ded will HBR take its place?
https://heavenburnsred.yo-star.com/

>>1566946
Pantsu status?

>>1561087
I like how the troon does not say "adding men" in jap, but about liking men. don't know what the rant is about with the curry men.
>mainstream appeal
crazy narrative sister

Why do yuri fans hate men so much?

>>1573404
It's self hatred. A lot of the deranged ones are trannies.

>>1574887
>trannies
Meds

Imagine if they end up reviving BRS to shill NFTs. It would be a fate worse than death.

>>1574887
Not necessarily trannies, but self hatred yes.

>>1573404
Let me compare it to this; if you had a game that sold itself by having lolis, people wouldn't be that interested in the hags in it, right? Then, if you switched pace so it was just hags down the line, everyone who came for the lolis wouldn't want to stick around.

Neither one is better or worse than the other, but like water and oil, you can sell both in the same barrel (game franchise) and hope it all somehow works out

>>1581279
It's the thing I noticed. The most vocal male-hating yuri fans are themselves male. Most female yuri fans, including the actual creators of the genre itself, are fine with men.

I wonder how many people who hated the male sensei in Lapis Re:Lights or BRS hated Yuu. I imagine not many.

>BRS hated Yuu

>Checked out the final boss fight vid on yt
>They really yuri'd Shiho out with Aleshia
Damn, they really just blueballed the MC out of that last battle confession and kiss. With best girl Shiho too, at that. Just how pissed were the people at GUST to even decide to pull this off, lmao

>>1585493
I was asking how likely is it that the people who had issues with the male self-insert (i.e. sensei) in BRS had problems with Yuu from Love Live. I imagine not so much.

>>1585351
>>1587860
As someone who prefers games with male self-inserts, I respect games with female self-inserts like the Love Live games way more than games that leave it ambiguous. At least the former type makes its target audience clear from the outset.

>>1586139
explain further

>>1588415
But seriously, I really don't get why the same people who have a problem with male self-inserts specifically are almost always just fine with female self-inserts. Meanwhile those who don't like female self-inserts tend to dislike self-inserts in general regardless of sex.

>>1595024
They're cuter

Hachinai is also kicking the bucket

>still no Blue Reflection franchise news

>>1599582
Give it another 5 years. Trust the plan.

>>1599582
>IP gets acquired by gook publisher
>turn it into harem forever
Would be pretty funny.

>>1595024
Every jrpg thread I've ever seen has been the opposite. Most of them can't even have adult male mcs for the same reasons they can't have female mcs.

>>1602180
Spotted the incel. Men have been playing as women, and women have been playing as men, since the dawn of gender choices in video games, and they were never assumed to be trans. You got influenced by too much alt-right material.

>>1602990
"play" is not self insertion. the latter is what deranged yuritroons like you are literally talking about, whilst you desperately seek cover from under normalfags who play females to catfish for mmo items.

>>1603710
>yuritroons
>troon
Way to double down.

Blue Reflection would still be around if BR2 wasn't so censored.

I just watched the blue reflection anime after playing the first game.
I haven't played the second game yet but after reading the comments it feels like they didn't know what they were doing with this franchise. And the anime was kind of all over the place too, I didn't hate it but it felt sloppy. I wish the BDs didn't get cancelled.

>>1609246
Why did /a/ love the anime then?

I guess Blue Reflection is really never coming back.

Blue Reflection deserved so much better

Blue Reflection girls owe me sex.

I miss it so much guys.

>>1615431
You'll be happy and own nothing.
When will you learn?

If the anime had pantsu, would it have been received better?

>>1622113
Pantyshots? Who knows, considering the fact that Blue Reflection Ray tries to have an emotional story and what not (like the first game and even more so than the other two games), maybe people would consider the presence of ''pantsu'' as a distraction or something that doesn't make the series better. That said, there is *very* rare and unknown official art of Blue Reflection Ray of some characters in underwera, I had to go through Google images for several minutes to find this image. The images can be found in moca-news.net and maybe they were part of pre-orders, that typical thing of ''pre-order this product here and you'll get an exclusive poster'' or something. Who knows if those images of Blue Reflection Ray characters in underwear genuinely saw the light of day in an art book or poster...

In any case, this dead and irrelevant thread is about Blue Reflection Sun, not Blue Reflection in general, and if there is something that Blue Reflection Sun showed us...is that ''pantsu'' and fanservice in general isn't enough to save a game or anime, the game or anime also has to be decent (at least) and not be something that alienates the fans in the case of Blue Reflection Sun.

The other image of Blue Reflection Ray characters in underwear. Blue Reflection Sun barely has official art like this.

Anyway, Blue Reflection in general is dead...probably. Don't expect a new game in the near future, not before the release of the next two Atelier games at least.

>>1622484
Do you have any idea why /a/ loved BR Ray so much when even the game fans hated it? Seriously, go to the BR Ray threads on /a/ and they actually liked the anime, and interestingly most of them were anime-onlies.

>>1623092
>game fans hated it
Citation needed

>>1623135
Places like Reddit and Twitter. Those who played the game here on /vmg/ and watched the anime also didn't like the anime.

>>1610359
>/a/ has shit taste
color me shocked

Heavens burns red still going strong and even got a en release, Should have created a new generic harem IP

>>1627589
HBR is carried by Maeda, not yuri. Considering his fanbase the game would've been more popular with a male self insert anyway.

>>1627596
Don't care about the writer and his keySHIT. I'm just here to spit on fags who turned a yuri show into a generic harem

The franchise wouldve be better if the games werent terribly censored and the anime wouldve been that shit. Seriously it was the the worst anime Ive ever seen and I loved the first two games

>>1627596
Local idiot claims to be expert after only discovering something after its recent EN release.

>>1629553
Maeda's entire shtick is straight romance nakiges, newfag retard.

>>1629720
That's not the part that makes you retarded

>>1629760
Then what is?

>>1440473
source?

>>1629829
>https://www.famitsu.com/news/202211/25282762.html
"I actually tried to have a male protagonist in the first game at one point too"
"I didn't wanted to do a 'world with only girls' in the first game. In Sun I will return to the start and properly depict males as well. This time the player will firmly identify with the avatar that is the male protagonist, and feel that they are truly him"
"He is a 'visitor'. I want the player to come in from outside into this world"
"Since the girls are buddies with each other, the "yuri" feeling the fans expect will be there too."
"The existing fans might ask 'why is a male in this beautiful world?', and I understand the feeling. But, I want them to properly read the story, and the content will satisfy their expectations. They will understand that this uncomfortable feeling is neccesary to BR Sun"
"We paid attention so the player won't think 'this is wrong', though he has his own personality... where the player wants him to be cool, he is. His heroic characteristics are a noteworthy part of the game"

>>1630239
quote the jp text next time lol

>>1630239
Letting Mel do anything other than character design is a mistake.

>>1630239
I never understood the butthurt for a self-insert considering how male gazey/sexualized BR1 was.

>>1630379
Probably because you're suffering from terminal twitter brain

>>1630421
You mean he wasn't widely hated?

>>1629550
And yet for some reason, /a/ LOVED the anime. I'm not joking: look up "Blue Reflection Ray" on Desuarchive and the threads were largely positive AND also very active. Indeed I'm almost certain that /a/ was one of the only if not the only place on Earth that liked the anime.

>>1630379
You think Mahoako or Akebi wouldn't lose 99% of it's fanbase if it turned into haremshit

>>1630379
BR was an established franchise about girl drama and feelings. It wasn't even a romance series, mostly just slice of life bullshit. Should have started a new IP.

Did this game ever have sticker packs for LINE or similar? A lot of mobile games do but I couldn't find anything.

>>1630239
>Since the girls are buddies with each other, the "yuri" feeling the fans expect will be there too."
I don't think Mel understand what yuri is
>But, I want them to properly read the story, and the content will satisfy their expectations. They will understand that this uncomfortable feeling is neccesary to BR Sun"
>so did the content satisfied you guys ? was male MC really neccesary ?

>>1630379
This is an odd mental exercise, but imagine a series that's just m/F, but part way through yaoi starts to become the main focus. For people that really like Yuri, a dude suddenly appearing is essentially the same thing

>>1635022
It's odd indeed. I don't see how it applies in this case.

>>1635022
From what I've seen, yuri fans tend to be a lot more vicious about such things than het fans though. Like if a het series showed yuri then most fans won't actually mind, but if a yuri series gets het then things go down the toilet. It seems to be a yuri thing specifically too since even yaoi fans tend to have no issue with women or het showing up in their stuff, with the exception of strong fujos. No idea why.

>>1635042
Because you get plenty of pandering and everytime a male lead is injected into a Yuri or Yuri subtext game it's the most inoffensive male lead who sucks the air out of the romance.

>>1627999
>>1635032

Looks like subreddit mods deleted the text of the post. You can check saved snapshot here - https://web.archive.org/web/20241002175258/https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueReflection/comments/1cx8bfj/unofficial_blue_reflection_sun_offline_version/

I'd also add this note to the post itself but I bet they would also remove it at some point later. Well, it's going to be lost completely soon, no one will recall it one year later (for better or worse). Also, I am quite surprised that this thread is still kept alive, though I guess it's close to bump limit.

>>1637812
I mean, there's a difference between having a male lead and having a male character. I can get not liking the former, but I have seen yuri fans hate even the latter. Like you can't have a male supporting character showing up onscreen for five seconds without them going apeshit.

>>1638255
Males who are supporting characters aren't hated. Males who force themselves into a love triangle are hated. What male side character in a yuri show is hated?

>>1639017
Is Nanoha a yuri show? Some fans hate Yuno and S1/S2 Chrono

>>1639114
>implying yuuna nanoha wasn't heavily teased
Even chrono had a crush on nanoha plus he was an asshole

>>1639433
Fair and S1 wasn't full "these girls sleep together and adopted some kids together"

>>1639017
>Males who are supporting characters aren't hated.
You would be surprised, especially if you go to /a/, /e/, or Dynasty Scans. I mean, why else do males with faces not show up in Love Live unless they're kids or overseas? They won't even show dads' faces.

>What male side character in a yuri show is hated?
Kai from Aquatope. Part of it was due to a het shitposter, but even without him people on /a/ and elsewhere hated him as if he was the second coming of Satan. If you include yuri-adjacent shows then /a/ also hates Shoe and Majima.

>>1639698
To add context, anons hated Majima even before that one baiter (possibly also the Kaifag) showed up. In fact I'm certain part of the reason he latched on to Majima was because anons hate him.

I know this from experience: I have interacted with multiple anons who said they would rather not have any males in their yuri media, not even as supporting characters. They claim they're traumatized. Ironically all of the ones I asked are males themselves, female yuri fans and actual lesbian yuri fans seem to be more okay with male characters than male fans.

Males don't belong in yuri simple as. Either the male is a love interest that gets cucked like Guel or needs to be asexual like Maki. Men and women can't be friends. That's why haremshit never have any other relevant males they used to have the comic loser best friend but they even removed that nowadays.

>>1640474
Sounds like you're from a reverse /r9k/.

>>1640474
>Males in yuri bad
>Females in yaoi good
Explain this double standard then?

>>1640675
I know nothing about yaoi but who said women in yaoi is good? Did you not see what happened to love and deep space and how they banned fujos. I assume otomefags and fujos hate each other like yurifags and waifufags

>>1640707
>who said women in yaoi is good
All those women who self-insert as characters like Miho and Gou and how they're tolerated? I mean, notice how much more common it is for women to show up in yaoi than men do in yuri.

>>1640675
Gynocentrism. It's always gynocentrism. Women are always free to enter men's spaces but men are never welcome in women's spaces.

>>1640995
Uhh what about trannies?

>>1640996
Meds

>>1640995
The thing is, it's virtually always the *male* yuri fans who hate seeing males lf any kind in yuri. The female fans don't mind, including the actual lesbians who originally created the yuri genre in the first place. Notice how yuri series targeted towards lesbians, or those targeted towards general audiences, have no issues showing males, yet yuri series targeted towards males, particularly male otaku, or even more specifically male CGDCT fans, have males Thanos snapped from the face of the Earth.

>>1641018
CGDCT yuribait =/ yuri
CGDCT is aimed at both purtiyfag waifufags, That's the stuff like love live and bocchi. Yurifags just adopted it. Yuri usually has males in it.

>>1641018
Yes, many simps like them perpetuate gynocentrism far more than anyone else does.

>>1641024
Explain /a/'s hatred of males then. I am asking about /a/.

Wouldn't it be funny if this thread ends up lasting longer than the actual game itself

Part of hating males in Yuri franchise is on the old days always a guy was used to create NTR drama or to ruin the relationship this hasn't being the case lately, and you got liked male characters in some Yuri stuff like that dude from bloom into you but for the longest time besides being family members males were done as rivals or to ruin it like from kannazuki no miko is really the main reason.

>>1643328
Then how come it is mostly male fans, not female fans, who hate males? Notice how yuri made for actual lesbians, or for women in general, don't have issues with showing males. It's male-targeted yuri where males are unobtanium.

How do we save Gust?

Don't care. Male love interests in a yuri series makes troons seethe so therefore they are good

>>1647360
Least homosexual yuri malder

>>1647360
>troons
Meds

>>1647351
Blue Reflection 3 featuring passionate on-screen kissing between girls non-consensually

I don't actually remember the last time I've seen a female yuri fan hate males. It's virtually always been the male ones surprisingly.

>>1634929
>I don't think Mel understand what yuri is
Mel admitted it in a message on Twitter after the gacha EoS
https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueReflection/comments/1btvopf/mels_tweets_reflecting_on_br/

>>1650003
Makes sense the """yuri""" was trash all I remember is a scene where you swapped panties with one of the girls. I don't even remember the mc having a love interest unless you count those two girls that die(?) at the end

>>1650242
Blue Reflection is not a yuri game. Yes, Shihori wants to swap panties with Hinako and she *might* be in love with the protagonist, but Hinako isn't in love with Shihori and she doesn't like Shihori's actions (the fact that Shihori looks at her panties without her consent for example). In the case of Yuzu and Lime they aren't Hinako's love interest and, well, spoiler that isn't really a spoiler at this point...they were already dead, and in Blue Reflection: Second Light they are alive and well. Perhaps at the end of the first game Yuzu and Lime return to the common but they don't go to heaven or the afterlife or whatever, in any case, they appear in the sequel too.

I don't know the extent of Mel Kishida's involvement with Blue Reflection: Second Light but only the sequel is a genuine yuri game (like other games developed by Gust), not the first game and especially Blue Reflection Sun, where maybe the closest thing to yuri is Shiho Kasuga kissing a girl...maybe? If that scene is real, I haven't seen it.

>>1643961
>Then how come it is mostly male fans, not female fans
>>1649897
>I don't actually remember the last time I've seen a female yuri fan hate males
Since when ?
cuz from what i've seen lesbian who consume yuri not only hate men in yuri but also hate men's who are into yuri
are you guys talking out off ass or did i miss something ?

>>1643961
I don't know where you get your numbers but a lot of yuri is consumed by women in Japan, iirc a fan meeting of Valkyrie drive was mostly women when that franchise was alive

>>1652976
I didn't say that most yuri fans aren't women. I said that most yuri fans *who dislike males showing up* aren't women.

>>1647817
>Blue Reflection 3
Dude. That was Sun. Theres no way to save this franchise

>>1653981
Even women get mad about it anon

>>1659566

>>1659566
>>1659567
I think there's a difference between obvious "rivals" and even minor characters.

I miss this franchise

Happy birthday Uta

Any Uta pantsu?

>>1662901
Other than the picture above where she's wearing lingerie like Yamada Niina, no. I've never seen an image of her ''pantsu'' in Blue Reflection Sun and in Blue Reflection: Second Light her underwear is under pantyhose. Indeed, Uta usually wears pantyhose, so...who knows. That said, looking at her bra, it seems that she may wear pretty much the same underwear that Shihori Sugamoto wears in Blue Reflection...for some reason? That's something I guess and it works as reference, she should wear basically the same underwear that Shihori wears, looking at her bra.

>>1663305
Did we ever get pantsu for other Blue Reflection Ray characters who showed up in the games?

>>1663790
Hiori is wearing pink underwear in one of the images above, that said. Ruka doesn't appear in the games. in the case of Hiori and Mio, they appear in Blue Reflection: Second Light but of those two characters only Hiori is a playable character, Hiori wears the same underwear worn by Chihiro Inoue...surprisingly, and Mio probably wears Rika's underwear, considering that her lingerie is white and very simple. Mio is only mentioned in Blue Reflection Sun and I've never seen Hiori's underwear in that game, I remember that image of the low res ''pantsu'' of the characters in Blue Reflection Sun but Hiori wasn't in that image, so, who knows.

>>1664040
How much of a factor was the censorship in making Tie and Sun flop?

>>1668116
0 since /v/fags don't buy video games

>>1668116
Well, Blue Reflection: Second Light was released worldwide, so, because of that factor it had more success than Blue Reflection Sun (not to mention the DLC sales, but personally, I never bought the DLC), that said, we are talking about a game that sold 120,000 copies worldwide, and those numbers are of almost 3 years ago (January 31 2022), nowadays if we want to be optimistic and generous the game has sold maybe 150,000 copies worldwide or something.

We don't have to go with the most recent games, even the original Blue Reflection was censored in most countries in the sense that the camera in the model viewer or dressing room is restricted compared to the Japanese versions, even so, the game had some sales, enough sales for a sequel and what not. Yes, some people who browse v buy video games and if I had to say something, I would say that the censorship of the model viewer (not the base game, the base game is uncensored) and the fact that the sequel doesn't have scenes of characters in underwear etc, had an effect but only a little, few people (relatively speaking) didn't buy those games because of censorship...other games developed by Gust do the same thing (3D model disappears to prevent pantyshots), it's not just Blue Reflection: Second Light. In the case of Sun, it was the fact that it was only released in Japan and that it alienated the fanbase...there's not much else to discuss there.

Yes, the picture is unrelated.

What did Atelier Ryza did right that Blue Reflection did wrong?

>>1673241
I don't think it's a good comparison, Atelier Ryza is part of an established franchise (Atelier exists since 1997) and Blue Reflection is a more or less new IP (almost 8 years since the first game, less than a decade for now). While it's true that the marketing and word of mouth for the first Ryza game and its sequels (you know, ''thick thighs save lives'') were very aggressive and enthusiastic (unlike the Blue Reflection games), it's also true that, let's be honest, Atelier Ryza and the Atelier games in general have a bigger and more universal appeal compared to Blue Reflection...not everyone is going to be interested in a Role-Playing Game where most characters are female characters, with only Japanese voices, and especially magical girl, sure, they use the term ''reflector'' but a reflector is basically a magical girl, and that's the main thing that Blue Reflection ''did wrong'', magical girls are something more niche compared to a more standard fantasy RPG like the Atelier games...with the exception of the Sailor Moon franchise of course.

Yes, another unrelated picture.

>>1673340
So you're telling me that Blue Reflection being yuri (or at least yuribait) was always going to limit its audience, and contrary to what /a/, /u/, and other yuri fan-dominated places say, yuri will never be as mainstream as other genres?

>>1673241
It was a better game and didn't run like shit on the PS4.

>>1673431
I never used the word ''yuri'', it's true that there is yuri in Blue Reflection: Second Light, but that's not the focus of the franchise in general and the first game has little to no yuri. No, I'm talking about magical girls (or mahou shoujo) as a genre, Blue Reflection is basically a magical girl franchise in the first place (just look at the designs of the reflectors especially in the first game and anime) and everything else is secondary. Being a magical girl franchise that isn't Sailor Moon limits its audience, it's that simple and the main reason why Blue Reflection will never be mainstream or have the same popularity as Atelier.

>>1673738
To be fair, much of the series' audience is comprised of yuri fans, and many people blamed Sun's failure on the male self-insert MC so...

>>1674290
Notice how the yurifags only like the 2nd game while pretending anything else from the series doesn't exist. It's a traditional magical girl first and foremost while the 2nd one just happened to have yuri elements that warranted the attention of troons out from the closet

>>1674290
You already got a decent reply, but yeah, I'm not sure if more than 50% or 55% percent of Blue Reflection fans are also yuri fans, unless the sequel really was much more popular than the first game (it wasn't), I would say that, yes, many people who like Blue Reflection also like yuri, but it may not be much of the series' audience or mostof its audience, then again, I was one of the people who have been with Blue Reflection since the beginning, the anime, Blue Reflection: Second Light and, to a lesser extent, Blue Reflection Sun, should have introduced the franchise to other people, but many people like me have been with Blue Reflection since the first game, it should be a fact that, like many other sequels, Blue Reflection: Second Light had less sales than the first one and it's true that many people became Blue Reflection fans thanks to the sequel (which I don't recommend playing if one hasn't played the first one first but anyway).

That said, it's true that one of the reasons why Blue Reflection Sun failed is the fact that it has a male main character...a male main character without a name (self-instert), unlike the other two games...it would be incorrect to say that the male main character is the only reason why Blue Reflection Sun failed but no one can deny that it's one of the reasons, Blue Reflection sun alienated Blue Reflection fans, regardless if one is a yuri fan or not.

>>1631070
>You think Mahoako or Akebi wouldn't lose 99% of it's fanbase if it turned into haremshit
Considering how more popular straight porn is,not really. Also, lesbian pornography is not yurishit.
>>1635022
Apples and oranges, that's a complete demographic switch, straight men are a major consumer of yuri just like self-insert material.

>>1674598
Blaming the male MC is yurifag cope, he only existed in 1 out of 4 properties and the series was long dying by then. The series died because it had nothing other than fanservice going for it which was axed after the first game, and they couldn't pull an Ryza to save it. Going for yurifags then self insertfags was just Mel grasping at straws to save the franchise. And as you said, yuri was never the main focus.

>>1674662
The was hardly any fan service in the first game, 2 has way more fanservice than 1.

>>1674662
It's not ''yurifag cope'', I already said that it's *one of* the reasons why the game failed or wasn't very succesful financially, something one can't deny. The other reasons are:
-It was officially only released in Japan
-It didn't had a console release unlike the other games, it was only available for PC, IOS and Android
-It was a ''free-to-play'' gacha game...unlike the other 2 games. Not everyone is willing to play a gacha game
-The game didn't have the best reception and some people considered it kind of bad even for a gacha game
As we already know, the Blue Refletion games definitely have fanservice especially the first one and Blue Reflection Sun, but as mentioned above, fanservice in general isn't enough to save a game, the game also has to be at least decent and not be a game that alienates the fans, which Blue Reflection Sun did not just because of the male main character unlike the other games (and anime) but also because it was a gacha game and not something specifically for consoles and PC that costs money...

>>1674607
You don't seem in the right headspace to be discussing this if you think porn viewership is representative of actual fans.

>>1674695
Well...it depends on what kind of fanservice are we talking about. If it's the sexual kind, the first game definitely wins, but if it's ''references and humor for fans of the series'' and things like that, the sequel wins, with several characters that appear in the first game also appearing in the sequel (Hinako, Yuzu and Lime), not to mention characters of the anime also appearing in the game (Hiori, Mio, Uta and Kokoko). Blue Reflection: Second Light is kind of like an ''all-star'' game compared to the anime and the first game, and if we combine that with the fact that they put a reference to Atelier (when Hinako says ''barrel!''), for example, then yeah, it has a lot of fanservice (not the sexual kind).

>>1674695
>The was hardly any fan service in the first game
You've never played the game. It was choke-full of peep shots,pervy camera angles, situations where the girls were halfnaked and so on. That's not even mentioning the dlc that made the dev's intentions abudantly clear.

>>1674758
2 has a literal dlc where you turn a pool into afucking onsen.

>>1674729
>fanservice in general isn't enough to save a game
Worked for Ryza. Also the first game was the most fanservice-y and sold the most.
>and not be a game that alienates the fans
If sales are anything to go by the second game's yuri alienated the original fans the most. Again, it's all yurifag cope.

>>1674765
The first was still the lewder game, stop trying to rewrite history.

>>1674731
Mahoako is porn first and foremost, trying to attribute its success to yurifans is retarded. It just happened to get a god-tier soft hentai adaption like Ishoroku.

>>1674766
I've been saying all this as someone who's been with Blue Reflection since the first game, I don't look for yuri content and I don't have a problem with yuri (yuri is more common than one might think), that said, I don't consider myself a yuri fan and I can only speak for myself.

I don't think we need to say that it's common for a sequel (especially of a niche game or new IP) to have less sales compared to the first game...Death end re;Quest 2 had less sales than the first one and that's just another example besides Blue Reflection: Second Light. Yes, Super Smash Bros. Melee sold more than the first one and NieR: Automata had better sales than NieR for Xbox 360 and PS3 for example, but a sequel being more succesful than the previous game or the original one doesn't always happen, and Blue Reflection: Second Light didn't sold less because of yuri, I didn't feel alienated because of it and I'm sure other people feel the same way considering its postivie receptiiona and comments I've seen. Yes, some people didn't like the yuri of Blue Reflection: Second Light and the reduction of fanservice, but as far as I can see, they were only a few people relatively speaking.

>>1674776
>it's common for a sequel to have less sales
Not at all, especially if it's a direct sequel.The game established a name and fanbase for itself so it should go upwarda, there also was no IP fatigue.
>they were only a few people relatively speaking.
Yeah because saying you liked it for the fanservice would get you crucified in almost all social media, ofcourse the yurifags will seem more prevalent. They were the actual loud minority(who cheered when the franchise died because it not longer pandered to them) Reminder, only 1 out of the 4 entries has yuri in it.

Reflection 1 did it kill the series despite poor sales? NOPE
Anime, did it kill the series despite everyone fucking hating it? NOPE
Reflection 2 did it kill the series despite being censored? NOPE

Now ask yourself the same about the gaccha.

>>1674782
>it's the extremely low cost/high return gacha that killed it, not the costly anime and censored yuriflop game

>>1674788
That's right.

>>1674788
> low cost/high return
>they completely closed the fucking servers

it cost fucking nothing to host servers nowadays

>>1674782
It was up to any of Ray, Tie, and Sun to give new life to the franchise. All three of them underperforming is what killed the franchise (Assuming Gust/Koei has given up on it).

>>1674791
Concession accepted.
>>1674793
Shutting down servers is industry standard.Gachas almost never shut down due to no profit, they shut down because they don't make enough. The gacha 100% recouped the money spent into it, which is fairly unlikely for the second game and anime.

>>1674797
Kancolle still going on strong despite NOT being a gaccha.

>Male MC
what were they thinking.

>>1674799
Kancolle has alternative revenue streams, it generates it from ingame purchases like rings/docks, collabs and festivals. Also the arcade while it was active. Kancolle had no issue sustaining itself from ingame purchases, it was almost always on top of DMM sale rankings for quite some time.

>>1674778
The fact that it's a direct sequel should be enough reason to (at best) have more or less the same sales compared to the first one, if not inferior sales, not everyone is going to play a direct sequel if someone hasn't played the first game yet, and I already said I don't recommend playing Blue Reflection: Second Light if one has't played the first one), ''I won't play or watch the sequel because I haven't played or watched the previous installment'' does affect sales at least a little, especially if it's something that isn't mainstream and a direct sequel.

Also, ''only 1 out of the 4 entries has yuri in it''...you're now forgetting about Amiru and Ryoka in Blue Reflection Ray, unlike the other characters in the anime, Amiru and Ryoka definitely are a couple without the anime and characters explicitly saying that they are in love with each other or whatever, it's not on par with those two characters in Blue Reflection: Second Light but it's definitely more evident and less ambiguous or ''teasing'' unlike the first game where Shihori is more than anything a case of ''she's a lesbian if you say that she is a lesbian but she isn't a lesbian if you don't want her to be a lesbian'', and if she's really in love with Hinako, that's up to the player I would say (even if she is, Hinako never reciprocates her feelings).

Again, it doesn't matter if one is a yuri fan or not, when you have a franchise with 2 games both with a female protagonist (Hinako and Ao) and an anime series with 2 female protagonists (Ruka and Hiori)...and then a gacha game with a male main character that doesn't even have a name...of course people won't like that and the fanbase will be alienated, regardless if one likes the yuri of Blue Reflection: Second Light (and to a lesser extent the anime) or not.

>>1674804
A direct successful sequel should by all means boost the entire franchise(which it failed to do making it a flop)
>Side character yuri means the entire series is yuri
Is sailormoon yuri now? There were no overarching yuri themes in the anime.
> a male main character that doesn't even have name...of course people won't like that
Only yurifags hate male self inserts, and do not try to gaslight because i have interacted with them more than enough. Shippers too but in a allgirls cast they're the same.For a supposed not yurifag you sure sound and think like one.

>>1674801
Indeed. It's also worth remembering that they did a bait and switch with Blue Reflection Sun, the image posted above, not to mention teaser trailer (which isn't available on YouTube anymore like the other PVs), gave the idea that Xiao Meiqi is the main character of Blue Reflection Sun and as such, a game where the main character is a girl like the rest of the franchise, but then it was revealed that the main character is a boy without a name and...yeah.

>>1674811
nah i hate all blank self inserts, why would anybody ever like them? it's like having a wall running amount the other characters who finds that enjoyable?
>girls engages in conversation with a wall.

how is that fun?

>>1674811
Dude, if a series or franchise suddenly went against expectations of what the main character ''should be'' of course people won't like that and that doesn't just apply for niche franchises, 2 games and an anime series later one thinks that the main character of ''x'' thing in Blue Reflection ''should be'' a girl, and if a male main character will be present it should be a choice or something optional.

Tell me, would you play a new Mega Man game in the classic series where you can only play as Roll? Or a Bayonetta game where she isn't the protagonist (etc)? Not necessarily of course, and I understand. People in some circles say things like ''if this series suddenly had a woman as a protagonsit the chuds would be angry'' or ''men would hate a Doom game where you don't play as Doomguy'' or things like that, and yeah, I can't speak for everyone but those comments are true to an extent and the reverse also applies, if a game series establishes the expectation of ''the main character is a girl'' and then you get a boy, it's not something that everyone will like, which probably explains why the Atelier Iris games, both Mana Khemia games and Atelier Escha & Logy are the only Atelier games with a male (and sometimes optional) main character, in the other games the main character is always a girl.

And that's without mentioning the bait and switch they did already mentioned above.

>>1674811
I woudln't say that Sailor Moon is evidently and ''proudly'' yuri but yes, Haruka and Michiro really were a yuri couple before it was more common, it's not the focus of the franchise but the existence of those means, of course, that Sailor Moon has at least a little of yuri, it's not the focus but it's there.

Great, now you ruined the plan of making this thread reach the EoS's first anniversary.

>>1674835
It's what we do :)

Besides, this thread is for a dead game and honestly, it should have been closed a long time ago, but at least for now it's still here, so...cool I guess.

>>1674815
Only a tourist would fail to understand the appeal of one of the pillars of otaku culture.
>>1674825
Protagonists are irrelevant as long as the game s core is the same, the series is a magical girl series and the gacha was a magical girl gacha. The mana example is different since those games have direct pandering.
>>1674829
All that verbal diarrhea to admit that it's not a yuri series, it just has a bit of it.

>>1674844
Not my problem.

>>1674844
The protagonist is irrelevant as long as the game's core is the same...you can't be serious. We are talking about the protagonist in a video game (it can be anything else to be honest), of course the main character is important and if it goes against the expectations of what the main character ''should be'' the result can be a negative reception or bad sales. You can't deny it, not everyone would play a Bayonetta game where she isn't the protagonist, or a Mega Man game where you play as Roll and she isn't optional (like in Mega Man Powered Up, she was available as DLC), etc. Again, I can't speak for everyone but it counts for many video games including Blue Reflection, and the bait and switch they did giving the idea that Xiao Meiqi is the main character (again, it was already mentioned) contributed to the negative reception of the male main character.

>>1674849
You can't deny it, not everyone would play a Bayonetta game where she isn't the protagonist
If i could not play with short hair Bayonetta i would. It's pretty obvious at this point you're a yurifag larping as neutral, waifufags have no issue with male self inserts.

>>1674838
You're not even hiding you're doing this on purpose to kill the thread early.

>>1674862
I think the issue here is that yuri fans claim that the male MC was THE reason it failed, when as you said it was at most only one of several reasons, and possibly not even the main reason. On the other hand I've seen some others who claimed that Sun could have been the most yuri game in existence, and it would still have failed if it kept the same gameplay and graphics.

>>1674866
Yes, it was the reason why it failed.
>Women, one of my favorite thing!
>Two women? Two of my favorite things TOGETHER?

>>1674870
>And i get to sit in the cuckchair? Yabba dabba doo!!!

>>1674862
A ''waifufag'' would definitely have a problem with a Senran Kaura game where the main character is a boy and especially if most characters are male characters even if there are still female characters with torn clothes.

Again, I can't speak for everyone and as with everything, it depends and no one can speak for everyone, but it's a fact that some ''waifufags'' would only play certain anime games if there is a female character as protagonist or the playable characters are only girls.

I say all this as someone who has played a few Persona games, Demon Gaze, Dark Rose Valkyrie etc...the main character is important and the decisions around said character (gender, personality, design, if it's an established character with a name, or a self-insert without a canon name, etc) matter.

>>1674866
> as you said it was at most only one of several reasons, and possibly not even the main reason.
I never said that. The gacha would fail no matter what because the franchise died after BR1's censorship.

>>1674866
The other person already replied but yeah, it was me who said that the male main character was only one of several reasons (already listed above). Even for a gacha game some people considered it a bad game and its graphics weren't the best even for a mobile game in 2023 and 2024...to be honest, it was the second worst looking game in the franchise only beating the PS Vita version of the first game, but both console games (especially on PS4) look better.

>>1674872
I'm not a self insert shitter so no.

>>1674873
>A ''waifufag'' would definitely have a problem with a Senran Kaura game where the main character is a boy
Absolutely not, faggot. A self insert boy main character that gets to romance and fuck all the Kaguras would be the best thing to happen to the franchise.
>but it's a fact that some ''waifufags'' would only play certain anime games if there is a female character as protagonist Trannies.
>the playable characters are only girls.
Standard waifufag fare. The male character shouldn't be playable.

>>1674880
We know yuritroon.

>>1674883
lmao no, you make this outrage wild claim that if you like two girls going at each other you're troon or yuri whatever.
nope
If you are a male and watch two males having sex and you get an erection, you're gay.
If you are a male and watch two females having sex and you get an erection, you are a normal straight male.

Once again
>Two of my favorite things together.

>now it's devolving into a slapfight
Be honest: are you two really trying to kill the thread early?

>>1674881
I said male main character, which means ''he is playable and gets the same clothing destruction as the girls'', something that goes beyond Murasame in Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson because he wasn't the protagonist and is the only male playable character in the game (he was available as DLC). Many men would want to play as a guy in a Senran Kagura game especailly if he is only wearing briefs when he is defeated like Murasame in Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson. Like the Atelier games already mentioned above, the fact that Murasame is the only male playable character in a Senran Kagura game and that only Senran Kagura Reflexions has a male character as self-insert and we don't see him physically and his clothes never get torn etc...isn't a coincidence.

>>1674885
>>Two of my favorite things together
Do you imagine having sex with both of them? Do you imagine that yuri relationships are threesome setups instead of real relationships? If the answer is yes to both then sure, you're a straight man.

>>1674894
>if you like girls you're straight.

No way.

>>1674893
>said male main character, which means ''he is playable and gets the same clothing destruction as the girls'',
No? Main male character means support character who is the focus of all interactions.

>>1674887
There's at most 3 or 4 people here right now and, I would say ''yes'', all this arguing and back and forth means that we, at least unintentionally, want to kill the thread early (but not that early because Blue Reflection Sun has been dead for months).

>>1674895
If you like fucking girls, yeah. If you like sitting in the cuckchair, no.

>>1674897
Asahi Shiramine is the main character in Dark Rose Valkyrie (which I already mentioned) and he's also a playable character, why can't a male main character be playable? The main character/protagonist in any game is often a playable character (obviously) and it's true, if a Senran Kagura game had a male main character who receives the same treatment as the girls (his clothes get torn), not everyone would want to play it.

>>1674899
>if you watch two girls scissoring you're a cuck.
Is this how you think?

>>1674902
Because just like gachas, having the man be support is the best of both worlds, you get pandering and girls on screen.
>>1674903
Do you want to fuck them or no? It's a simple yes/no question.

>>1674904
Well, it still doesn't change the fact that the main character or protagonist is often a playable character and that having a male main character (unlike the rest of the franchise) alienated Blue Reflection fans.

This got me thinking that...if he was a playable character, *maybe* that would have made the whole thing even worse, maybe...magical boys exist but they are rare compared to magical girls and, again, people never went to Blue Reflection (in general) to play as a boy.

>>1674909
Weird how you never account for the possibillity of yuri alienating fans of BR1.
>and that having a male main character (unlike the rest of the franchise) alienated Blue Reflection fans.
Alienated yurifags you mean.

>>1674898
The plan was for this thread to at least make it to March 30 if not May 30, and now in the span of just a few hours that plan is ruined. Are you all doing this on purpose? I was hoping for this thread to actually last longer than the game itself too...

>>1674911
Again, I didn't feel alienated because of the yuri in Blue Reflection: Second Light and I don't have a problem with yuri, I can't speak for everyone (no one can), but the sequel was well received and the yuri is considered well done and implemented, if there are people who openly say ''I don't like the yuri in Blue Reflection: Second Light'' or whatever, those people may be a minority, in the same way that people who wished for Shihori to be more explicit or genuinely being in love with the main character instead of just ''teasing'' are a minority.

We are talking about a franchise where usually the protagonist is a girl and most characters are female characters, only few male characters physically appear, of course not everyone would want to play as a boy after those two games and anime and that bait and switch (Xiao Meiqi wasn't the protagonist in Blue Reflection Sun).

>stops pretending to not be a yuritranny
There's no point in continuing this. You yuritrannies never liked the franchise and only came for the yuri. You trannies celebrated when it died because it stopped pandering to you, i haven't seen a single yuritroon in any platform related to BR not celebrating Sun's death. At least it's comforting knowing you parasites can no longer infest the franchise.Which was never yours.

At least I agree that there's not point in continuing this, even putting aside the (correct) statement of ''arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you're still retarded'', we are just never going to agree or see eye to eye in a few things.

Speaking as a fan Blue Reflection fan since the first game in 2017, there is a lot to criticize about the franchise in general and regardless if one is a yuri fan or not, I think we can all agree that the way Mel Kishida and the rest of the people involved handled the whole thing was more or less a mess. I really like Blue Refletion in general but the final game (for now at least) really shouldn't have been a free-to-play game with gacha mechanics, only available in Japan, for PC and mobile devices, and a male main character unlike the console games, and in the end, it made money, how much who knows but it wasn't the biggest success and it failed more or less, and it failed because of several reasons. Was the first game the beginning of the end? Maybe the sequel Blue Reflection: Second Light? The anime? The gacha game? Who knows, as I said, the franchise wasn't handled in the best way and Blue Reflection is kind of a mess.

Tata and farewell.

To everyone involved, I hope you're happy that the dream of this thread having a longer lifespan than the game itself is dead.

>>1673241
Everything
Blue Reflection 1 is just a horrible and boring game

>>1674813
More like bait ans switch it sounds like terrible direction and management decisions
They died due theie own incompetence

>>1674801
They werent

>>1637812
do you have no imagination or are you just trying to argue in bad faith? the male lead is deliberately made inoffensive to soften the blow, retard. if you got a chad, which in jap would be rapey street yankee cornering your girl, waltzing into your little yuri anime, it wouldn't be as subtly cucked as it could've been. you'd throw a bigger fit, like with that anime original I forgot the name of.

>>1627600
better than a generic moeshit series. you've got a whole publisher and multiple magazines dedicated to pumping out your slop in dozens of simultaneously running series all of the same tropes, and somehow that's not generic to you because a youtuber never once hammered that fact into your npc peabrain.

>>1674813
show me a galge where the female lead is not at the front and center.

>>1692213
>>1692215
>>1692218
Are you trying to start yet another flamewar? Just cut it out already, no one else wants to bring it up anymore. The discussion is as dead as Blue Reflection Sun itself (or really the franchise as a whole).

>>1692222
this thread is barely dead. I am used to posting on slow imageboards where you'd check back for replies up to a week later.

>>1674917
Well we pasted the anniversary so that's a accomplishment

>>1561087
Honestly, I think it’s really dumb that people get so mad about a male MC in a game that wasn’t supposed to be yuri in the first place. I also find it hilarious, this double standard of only calling something a self-insert when it’s a male protagonist with a bunch of girls around him, but when it’s a female MC, they even celebrate her having a yuri harem. It’s pretty hypocritical since they only seem to mind when there’s a man involved.
If he wanted a game like that from the start, I don’t see anything wrong with it. His only mistake was not making it that way from the beginning of the franchise. It’s funny to me that with their own toxic behavior as 'yuri fans,' they’re just proving the point of people who don’t want any of that in their games, which is sad. What’s even funnier is that over the years, they’ve only ended up making the trope of 'the girl who likes girls falls for the male MC' more popular, to the point where more and more stories like that have started popping up.
Either way, it’s going to be amusing to me if, because of this, they end up going down the route of sticking to just a male MC with a harem, purely to avoid dealing with a fandom of 'yuri fans' this toxic again lol.

>>1627596
Everyone forgets that several times the protagonist asks, 'What kind of guy do you like?' to the other girls at the base, and more importantly, her character is a joke about the 'perverted girl with other girls' rather than being fully lesbian. In fact, there’s a higher chance they’re bisexual than strictly lesbian. Plus, they’d only be that way because there are no men around—since, as far as I remember, it’s not known if there are any male survivors. So, there’s definitely a possibility they’d like men if one showed up.

>>1701132
Blue reflection wasn't a harem though. Yuri harems aren't even common. It's just an effect of the male mc harem

>>1623139
Seriously? Reddit and Twitter? One platform full of hypocritical people tied to just one political sector that loves looking down on others with moral superiority, and the other a platform full of accounts with inflated likes and bots? Their information isn’t reliable at all when it comes to what people like, because one outright censors everything the mods don’t like in a totalitarian way, and the other spreads narratives through bots and bought likes. And let’s not even get started on those posts designed to milk monetization through bait and misinformation.

>>1631070
If Maho Ako had a male protagonist, all its 'fans' would be the first to demand that the mangaka gets hurt. They only forgive everything Utena does because she’s a woman and nothing more.
In essence, Maho Ako is just a near-hentai with a lesbian focus more than anything else. Though, mentioning the elephant in the room, yuri often has heavier content than even straight porn—rape, brainwashing, incest, you know, all the things that if they appeared in a hetero work, people would demand the head of whoever published it.
They also forget that many times yuri is added to franchises not to appeal to women, but to men, giving them the illusion that when they show up, the girl of the moment will notice them as a partner. It’s no secret that this is often applied in the idol world and is a widespread practice. Also, because seeing two sexy girls having sex turns most men on sexually—especially if both are your partners in bed with you, having a threesome lol.

>>1701152
Redo of healer says hello. My point wasn't about sexualization. It was even if it has sexualization people would freak out if you suddenly added het to a yuri show

>>1673241
Ryza always had male friends and potential love interests, leaving the 'yuri' part (which didn’t even exist) more as fanservice than anything else. It never appealed to yuri fans nor had any interest in them. At most, the scenes that could be interpreted as such were more like, 'Look at these two sexy girls feeling sexual attraction to each other, where you could join in.' In essence, it was always clear that its fans were mostly men, not people who hate being men to the point of preferring to be cuckolded by a woman who takes the girl they like—or even their partner. In fact, you even feel happy that characters like Ryza could have a boyfriend and husband later on, saying, 'I’m that guy.'
If it had never tried to appeal to yuri fans, keeping it purely as sexual fanservice at most, the franchise would still be alive today."

>>1701138
>protagonist asks what kind of guy you like
Sasuga hetshit writer thank god I never pick that game up

>>1701166
Yeah retard I guess nothing counts if you jump through that many hoops in your head.

>>1701234
My standards are simple no romance with m*les preferably not existing. It's not that hard. Why do you think they don't exist in cgdct or in yuri shows

>>1701236
So HBR then. That idiot doesn't even play the game since nobody cares about the random NPCs that do show up.

>>1701240
>literally had an entire event with a hetshit romance
lmao never trust a hetshit writer at least he was smart enough to kill him off

>>1701246
Kura is a girl

>>1701255
Man didn't know JP was this woke. Boyfriends can be girls now

>>1500252
>>1504499
Now that I check Youtube many months later someone actually uploaded it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEFgO0vdA0

>>1674917
>I was hoping for this thread to actually last longer than the game itself too...
We may slow down posting and migrate (at least until EOS date) to the Atelier and Gust general and post there.
>>>/vg/517118029
>>>/vg/517118029
>>>/vg/517118029

I miss their pantsu

I miss this franchise

>>1701258
anon i know what happens next dont fool yourself

>>1701138
iirc one of the characters yuina i think straight up ask the mc if she is into people of the same sex ans she say yes

Extremely late to the party but I want to get the offline version of the game.

>>1637884
I can access the drive folder with no problems but the mega folder asks me for a password
Do I only need to download the files from the drive folder or do I also need stuff from the Mega?

>>1731770
Might be a better question to ask at >>>/vg/521395432. Don't bother asking further here as no one is still here anymore.

For a while we were deader than BRS

>>1731770

I doubt you are still around but most likely you're missing the part after # character. If you want to use Mega link, copy it from archived post and manually remove text before second "https" in the middle. I'd post proper direct link here but desu I'm not sure if it's allowed (I guess it's good enough that at least webarchive link was not removed).

I wonder if I should have added some kind of email there in case someone would want to contact me (aside of devs and angry jp players) even though I don't really maintain it.

I miss it

>>1438930 (OP)
Good fucking riddance.

>>1740919
>a year late

This is a surprise. Any BGM/OST rips? Probably not because I think I would have found something by now.

>>1742310
deliost and cole have uploaded the soundtrack on YouTube. Tespa even uploaded the opening. The complete soundtrack should be on YouTube with different users. Blue Reflection Sun recycled several (or many, I don't know) themes of the previous games especially the first game.

The opening is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEFgO0vdA0

>>1742323
*deilost.

god this threads is being alive for a year huh

Mio is cute

>>1742310
If you're looking for official rips of the bgm then there's this:
https://www.sittingonclouds.net/album/4764
Disc 6 includes all new songs from Blue Reflection Sun (except the rap song used for raid battles)

>>1756693
The CDs that were released to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Gust, wow.

Okay, time to let this thread die. I'll say goodbye to this thread with a lot of official art of Blue Reflection Sun, I've prepared the images...Here I go.

Lime reading a book I guess.

At least Blue Reflection Sun gave us more of Hinako wearing this outfit.

We can almost see Ao's panties, almost.

Yuzuki's design as a reflector looks great as always.

And last, but definitely not least, this image.

That's it, those are the images I wanted to post. Here's the video of MonoSaaan laughing after seeing Lime's panties in Blue Reflection Sun (I don't blame him). There's a not so loud explotion at the end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjgJm8Cuu_w&ab_channel=MonoSaaaNch.%E3%83%A2%E3%83%8E%E3%81%95%E3%82%93%E3%80%90%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E5%AE%9F%E6%B3%81%E2%98%85%E9%85%8D%E4%BF%A1%E3%80%91

That's all folks!

>>1757124
>making the thread die early instead of making it have a longer life than the game itself
Jesus Christ what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>1757514
What? You wanted this thread to last until September or something? It's true that Blue Reflection Sun was (not counting the beta) originally released in early 2023, so, the game lasted more than a year, but this thread also lasted more than 365 days and it's an unnecessary thread, Blue Reflection Sun is dead and the franchise in general might be dead too. If you wanted this thread to last even more time for some reason, then I'm sorry, but as I said, I consider this thread something unnecessary nowadays, the game got shutdown a long time ago at this point.

>>1757514
Yeah I was thinking the same

>>1757611
Who made you the boss of /vmg/?

>>1757746
Nobody, I just wanted this thread to end already.

>>1757611
>>1757784
>actually admitting to doing it on purpose
Is this your first post in this thread or were you planning this for a while now? Seriously, the game is dead, why can't we have our fun one last time?

It wouldn't surprise me if you were also the yuri guy, I am still mad about that discussion because it killed the thread early.

>>1757611
>You wanted this thread to last until September or something
Yes. Everyone did except for you, and now you ruined it. Are you proud? You acted so smug in your post.

>anon was so proud when he posted >>1757124 and >>1757140
If it weren't for you, this thread could have lasted another 100 days at least, enough to just barely outlast this game. Learn to read the fucking room.

Answer me: are you new to this thread?

>>1757802
No, those weren't my first posts, in fact. I'm the person who posted those images taken from moca-news.net a long time ago for example. It wasn't something I was planning to do for a while, yesterday I just said ''I'll put an end to that thread by posting official art of Blue Reflection Sun, it'll be my way of saying goodbye and putting an end to that thread after a long time''.
>>1757803
I wouldn't say that I'm proud but I can't deny that posting all that official art was fun, it's something great that Blue Reflection Sun left us at least, the new and beautiful official art, along with the new music.

>>1757828
After this thread gets archived I'm going to bake a new Blue Reflection thread just to spite you :)

>>1757828
Couldn't you have at least waited until the thread hit bump limit naturally?

>>1757850
This

>>1757849
Agreed. And not just that: we will keep it alive for as long as possible, just to spite you.

>>1757849
Ok, I don't think it's necessary but I won't stop you.
>>1757850
No, as I said, yesterday I just decided ''time to put an end to that Blue Reflection thread'' and again, this thread is for a dead game.

>>1757857
You ruined the plan. Are you happy?

>>1757878
Knowing that at least one person wanted this threat to last longer, no, I just feel...indifferent, it's what I wanted to do all of a sudden and that's it.

>>1757879
And yet you continue to quickly post about how little you care about the moment you get a reply

So how did they rap up the story did everyone die like they say it happens in the second game?

>>1757849
Based

>>1758196
All I know is that Uta Komagawa was the final boss and that this is what the game showed you after you beat the game (supposedly). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSGPcuzNs7Q

Why couldn't they have at least made an offline version? Now so much of the game is lost media.

>>1758728

The very least there is an unofficial one. Not perfect but still an option.

The guy claims that he is indifferent about killing the thread early, but given how smug he acted about it and how he actually seemed really happy to kill the thread at >>1757124 and >>1757140, I have a feeling he's lying.

>>1757849
This
The game is already playable thanks to offline server patch

>>1762183
Which is at the mercy of a link that could easily die.

>>1762758

Well, I sorta try to keep it alive. The problem is that the link itself very likely to be lost. Aside of this thread and a few reposts on Reddit, it's really nowhere else to find. And I have no idea where it could be mirrored, being somewhat easy to find and low risk of being deleted because of being "illegal". I am not a particularly social person to run around and post it everywhere.

>>1762758
>>1762760
Post md5 so I can torrent it

>>1762832

I didn't make a torrent of it. You can download from mega or gdrive, check archived post from here >>1637884

>>1637884
>>1762843
Why would they delete the text? Do they really want to keep the game as lost media or something?

>>1763276

Because "piracy". Yes, I am serious, when I tried to contact them later, I was told that it's illegal and everything. Even more, all few replies that I left to help people with their issues were deleted too, including some of comments of those people too.

The post was online for like half a year and then at some point it was silently gone with no public explanation, which made some people think that it was my doing.

>>1763442
You're telling me they care more about piracy than keeping the game alive?

>>1763442
I think there are dedicated game piracy subs out there that might be more open, so try posting there.

>>1763752

I doubt they care. I have a feeling that the reason was someone reporting the post, probably from jp players (from what I have seen on their board they indeed considered it a piracy) otherwise it's really weird to wait months. Even then, it doesn't excuse them to silently delete the post.

What doesnt work in the offline version?

>>1763758
You mean Japanese players actually would rather keep dead games dead than trying to keep them alive somehow and prevent them from being lost media?

>>1763867
The average Japanese person thinks it's a company's god given right to sell you a product that can be revoked, yes.
Modding is illegal over there.

>>1763893
What do they have against preservation? I know copyright is strict over there, but still. Even /r/gachagaming seems to be like that too: they don't care if everything spent goes down the toilet once the game's gone; in fact, the ephemerality of it all is part of the appeal to them.

>>1763894
In the eyes of western countries it's "I bought (or obtained) this product so I should enjoy it how I want" but in the eyes of eastern countries it's "I made this product so you have to enjoy it how I want or you'll ruin it".
I can't say I'd want to play a game by any company with a track record of shutting down previous games with no ability to keep playing them though.

>>1763901
But what explains /r/gachagaming then?

>"I made this product so you have to enjoy it how I want or you'll ruin it".
Does that explain that one mangaka who threw a fit after finding out his manga was being pirated, and he said he would rather have foreigners not reading his manga at all rather than them reading it through piracy?

>>1763843

I listed that in readme file, but it's mostly no gacha to pull chars (you get them all instead), no shops (you have all items) and removed some progression elements that weren't worth time (no exp gain and items in battles, no missions and lessons).

>>1763867

Like the other person said, it seems to be their general opinion. I don't directly interact with them so I might be wrong.

>the thread killer never returned
Yup, that proves that he was lying about being indifferent to killing the thread. He was secretly proud and excited about it, and only pretended to be not after he got called out.

The fact he never returned and apologized for what he did not only shows that he has no regrets about killing the thread, but he also wanted to do it. Him not coming back and saying sorry also shows that he is a coward.

To the thread killer: if you don't come back to tghis thread and apologize, that only proves me right.

For fucks sake just create another thread

>>1765224
I will when this gets archived.

>>1765390
Oh you're making one
I was planning to bake one telling people about the offline version and where do download it but sure, you go ahead and make the new one

>>1767547
Oh. Well, if that's the case then, sure, feel free to make the thread instead. Just make sure to make it once this thread finally dies.

>>1767752
will do

I guess the thread killer really is never coming back, nor is he ever going to apologize for killing the thread.