Thread 1685170

The "Hall of the Serpent-Haired Queen" event is live until Wednesday, February 19th, 2025 - 20:59 PST (Thursday, February 20th, 2025 - 04:59 GMT) and so is this useless snake's banner. That's not an excuse for you not to spend every single last gem on her banner though.

You ARE going to buy gems and keep pulling until you get P3 Medussy, right? You're not poor, RIGHT?

>not getting her for Free
gotta love those files

DEMELOVE! DEMELOVE!
My luck has been terrible recently, but I guess it's bound to happen when you don't pay for anything.
Good luck with pulls anons.

>>1685331
But anon... I'm unlucky...

>>1685602
Meta? I never see him in PvP anymore. Like not even once every 100 fights.

>first round 3rd place
>second round 2nd place
>third round 31st place
Cool!

>>1685605
He is very good for offense as getting rid of chains is still super useful.

WHY DOES THIS KEEPS HAPPENING TO ME!?

>>1685605
Salvation is still one of the best counters to Vanitas so he's still viable
his use will skyrocket again when a wind weakness enabler gets added

>>1685984
what's that, you don't like saving for half a year only to get trash after trash?
i wish someone would already kyoani them during a fanmeeting

>>1685892
Are we posting results?
>round 1: 6th place
>round 2: 8th place
>round 3: 2nd place
wtf. I thought Nuwa would rape me round 3 but I outsped most of them

Mermaid LOVE !

I stopped playing when they rolled out Camael / bulwark pierce / the weird skill lock thing whatever it's called, how much worse has it gotten since then?

>>1688373
how does unblockable 7500 damage, passive skill nullification, dmg reduction everywhere, one immortal fucker worser than demeter, an endure supplying bitch that made them relevant again, and every new demon being a fucking 5000hp+ tank sound to you?

>>1688417
Sounds godawful
Glad i quit

What the hell shouldn't we know the next demon by now?

>>1688600
Yeah, it's probably delayed to tomorrow.

It's not in the news section yet, but next demon will be Malice Shiva.
https://youtu.be/rIfnYI0cjlo?si=XX-QFoDtJBy2a2LX
This video shows his moveset as well as some recommendations for teams.
It also announces intermission coming soon, as well as buffs for Deity Baal and Night Maya.

>Malice Shiva
HP: 934
ST: 229
MAG: 70
VIT: 120
AGI: 294
LU: 151

>Passive: Corrupting Malice
Adds Phys Pierce.
+50% to Battle Speed.
+100% to Critical hit rate.
Reduces Intimidation received on self by 1.
When attacking first at the start of battle, activates the following Chain Effect:
Grants the party an additional Press Turn Icon, applies 1 count of Malice on all allies, and puts all party members into a state of Might.
While the one with this skill is alive, all allies will gain the following effect:
While having 1 or more counts of Malice, +40% to accuracy and +40% to damage dealt from single-target skills.

>Piercing Atrocity (6MP)
Inflicts Almighty damage (Physical, Power: 150) 2 times with Bulwark Pierce on a single enemy.
Activates the following Chain Effect if the attack is successful: Casts Rakunda+ (1 turn).

P1
+20% to Max HP. -1MP to Piercing Atrocity

P2
+15% to AC. When Piercing Atrocity activates, activate the following Chain Effect: Casts Tarukaja+ (1 turn)

P3
+20% to Battle Speed.
+20% to damage dealt.

I don't get it. Isn't Shiva already kinda the Malice version? It's like getting a Malice Lucifer. It makes no sense.

>>1688682
>as well as buffs for Deity Baal and Night Maya.
Please, give Maya a Magic Counter and Evasion.

>>1689006
While Shiva is a God of destruction I wouldn't say he is evil like Vanitas.

>another malice filler this soon
life support's lookin good bros

>end of Eclipse
I wonder what kind of game mode they will introduce to compensate...

>>1689871
I just noticed. Probably something related to the new PvP features?

>>1689998
>new PvP features
really?

>>1690041
Supposedly in March they are adding new stuff to PvP. It was shown in the road map.

>>1689006
If i was jeet i would see me amd everything around myself being destroyed as a good thing

How does the scoring in Underside work? Are you trying to prolong the fight as long as possible racking up damage?

>>1690082
higher difficulty gives higher score, you won't reach S rank until around 100

>there is too much to do! it's getting tedious
>we heard you loud and clear... obviously the culprit is this game mode that is once a month and takes 20 minutes to complete in auto
How about they made Demon Alliance, which needs you to be hands on, less tedious instead? I'm sure nobody ever thought "Yeah, Eclipse is the problem".

Naga this, naga that, naga please, bitch naga, naga have you lost yo mind, break yo self naga. Can you lend naga the pencil! Can a naga borrow a French fry? How is a naga gonna borrow a fry? NAGA are you gonna give it back?!

>>1691324
Mermaid... ToT...

>>1691324
Mermaid anon NOOOOOO

I wonder, does the underside skill for Illuanka still works for democalypse?
I heard that it used to be a bug for the last few democalypse but now it seems to be relevant if it actually works. Haven't tested myself just in case.

>>1694254
I dunno but I'll just remind you that sega punish people who use exploit harshly.

>>1694322
Yeah I know, that's why I was asking about it instead of doing it myself.
Bit of a bitch move I guess.

>maya buffs delayed
the power of the life support...

>>1691324
Impressive this is still up.
>>1694254
I think they patched it.

Intermission should drop in a few hours. Is there a chance that we get another beach episode and more cute rookie fanart or is it pure copium?

it's a short month so don't forget to do hell's park before the reset

>>1685170 (OP)
Can whoever predicted the last two champions correctly please post their prediction for this battle tournament? I need a win in my life.

>>1697645
nuwa

Gems? More fucking gacha garbage? Where are the real games at?

>>1697645
Barong.

Are people cheating in Hell Park Underside or am I retarded? How does someone with 5 units below level 40, that aren't awakened, and have no brands, get the top score?

>>1697979
It's possible but they usually get banned quickly because it piss off whales who mass report them.

Don't forget to do the final eclipse

>>1697980
Thanks, I think it's one of the bugs mentioned in the News section.

Besides that...
I missed the previous month, so I have no clue: Do I get anything extra on the monthly reset after I get the S? I don't have that much time left so I'd rather do the other two stages.

>>1698027
there are no other rewards other than the silver coins

>>1696905
It's over.....I need more rookie swimsuit art.

>>1698035
Thanks anon, just realized how this works.

>>1698041
Shiori has the best swimsuit though.

>>1698115
All the girls have cute swimsuits, but I need more.

>>1698159
>meat balloon getting abducted by cthulhu

>>1698159
u-uuuh...
uuu-uuooOOOOOOH
UUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH !!!

>>1698159
Xana Sex

>"killing.......LE BAD!"
>"revenge.......LE BAD.......OK!"
I forget how much i hate this story and characters utill they appear on the screen and start talking

>>1698423
Yeah, they're kiddieshit cringe, which has no place in a Shin Megami Tensei where alignments are a crucial part of the franchise.

>>1698159
do you have more of this guy's art? he locked his account recently

>>1698496
Just this one sadly.

There will be some info regarding the next update this Monday.
This is probably related to PvP, but the director said it's a big one regardless.

oh man these new underside rules are so much better

this game could use a solo challenge of sorts, where you pick one demon in your team and start climbing a tower with only it as level 1. you can't recruit, but you can get new skills and switch them around before every fight

Eh?

holy shit, how did they get the shin megami tensei license for this shitty phone gacha??? that's insane!

>>1699942
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.jp/enishimatsuri/shin-megamitensei/

>>1699942
Kazuma Kaneko remembered?

Please let this mean P4 Pascal

>>1699941
>>1699942
>Hero and Heroine playable units
A bit of a lame inclusion considering how they wanted to keep the other mainline titles separated, but considering that they aren't making much money now it makes sense.
Wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the year is just lame Doi demons followed by a hero from the console titles.
That said, heroine model sex, I hope.

Wonder if it will be 4 new summonable units and we will have Hero, Demon Fused Chaos Hero, Pope Law Hero and Heroine

>>1699971
>but considering that they aren't making much money now it makes sense.
Anniverssary events (Nuwa in particular) brought some players back based on my own ranking in PvP.
Those players left (still according to my own PvP rank) so we're back to being dying again.

>>1699941
>>1699942
>>1699953
IT'S HAPPENING !!!
>>1699943
Kek

It does make you wonder though. They said they'd never do direct title collaborations. Have numbers dwindled this badly? I'm not complaining though, my second happiest moment with this game is when they added Pascal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGiQ3plcPbA
live in 2 days

>>1699941
wow epic a mainline inclusion... can't wait for 100 free files of shit... 0.3 rates... two new limited 300 tome units... who will never ever get a rerun...
that's it boys... you'll hear from me next fan meeting...

>>1699941
>>1699942
>>1699953
Are they getting desperate? This has to be a sign of EoS.

>>1700270
It definitely is but they don't understand that whatver player they bring with this event will not stay long.
Hell, I don't even have gems myself and I'm sure not whaling.

What the fuck happened? Anyways...

PvP changes
>"skill based matchmaking" for bronze and silver
>daily bonus battles for bronze and silver: easier opponents, more points, no points lost if you lose
PvE changes
>new demons added to tokyo abyss
Other
>FREE furykado and idunn (for new and returning players ONLY)
New demons
>The Hero and Heroine
>they have unique BGM, animations etc when paired together
>their stats can be increased way higher than normal
>they have a new gimmick: demon buddy (allows you to switch between two affinities as if they were summoning demons)

>>1701540
Surely some anti-anti-semitic maintenance.
>FREE furykado and idunn (for new and returning players ONLY)
Yeah, that piss me off. They should give it to everyone and also make it permanent for new/returners.

>event is called karma festival
>devs shit on all costumers as much as possible
they need to get abe'd asap

>Hero needs P2 to deal damage to 100% reduction demons
Fug

>>1701580
Lame. He should just ignore damage reduction altogether desu

lmao how do you even kill this? tanks are a fucking joke
btw she can lift revive ban and revive the party up to 6 times, total immunity to corrosion, +a billion endures

>>1701621
The protagonist has arrived

>>1701621
just wipe everyone

>free mithras, barbatos, idun and furykado
>but only if you're new or a returning player :^)
FUCK you

I like the current meta but Hero and Heroine are going to fuck me up.

30 minutes lads

its OUT

isn't heroine a pretty strong unit? didn't encounter one yet, but saw some builds and 3k+ on both defenses sounds too much when she can also revive and deal damage. or are the defense stats memes, if my dps also has 3k attack, does it mean I deal next to no damage?

I can't shake off the feeling that we'll get like 3 versions of Demi-Fiend. He's still the most popular protag and is guaranteed to sell well.

>>1701621
just fought against her and her revive only kicks in if you don't wipe the entire team, which isn't even a problem

>>1702313
https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/Formulas
looking at the datamined formulas at a cursory glance a 3k defense shouldn't fully negate a 3k attack

>remove eclipse because it "takes too much time xD"
>next event is shitter gate snorefest
these fuckers

>>1702385
eclipse was a waste of time, not because it took a long time to finish but because the rewards were dogshit

>>1702387
This. Having the rewards on the battle pass is better.

I just noticed the extreme summon rates for the decent units are extremely low (0.38, 0.30 for morrighan) while the shitters have fucking 3.80!
Btw what did you guys get from that thing? I got a therion.

>>1702443
got futsunushi, which is good as i needed him for democ

Where are my fellow Futsuochads? Got him with the first x10 free files. Truly chosen.

>>1702443
The files sucks - 250,000 karma and you can roll demons that are found on regular 5* files? Unacceptable.

>get the Heroine in the first two banner rolls
>retardly spend money for the first time in 1700 days to complete all steps
>get jack shit after that
I want to punch myself but I know it won't be enough for me to ever learn not to be retarded

>>1702483
You clearly didn't go far enough. You have to pull the other steps in the other rounds as well.

>>1702495
I already spent nearly 200 R$ for 3 steps using some of the discounted packs, if the prices weren't so crazy I definitely would go all out but this is just too much

>>1702501
>poorfag
Not my problem. Spend more or you won't get the Hero.

>>1702483
Don't think much about it. I think if you have other decent demons just the heroine is good enough.
>>1702468
Lucky fuck.

Is there space in the faction? I found the faction that was posted here but I'm not sure if it's the correct one.
Just in case my name starts with BE.

>>1702704
Yes, if you mean /smtg/. If so, you'll be in shortly.

>>1702706
Thanks, I will sent the request in a few hours then.

>>1702708
Ah, reply again then so leader is alerted.

>>1702468
Bragging makes you a beta.

>>1702718
Sent.

i guess you actually can get shit from the free files

has the latest update broken the framerate? autoplay no longer reduces the framerate, energy saver mode still runs at 60fps, when it used to lower it to sub 30fps. it sucks because i can no longer leave my phone to ag grind or else it overheats.
i tried contacting support, but those fucks just replied with "lol delete cache and close all other apps". amazing
if any of you guys have this issue, send a ticket to support too, so that they might actually get to move their ass

>>1703065
>autoplay no longer reduces the framerate, energy saver mode still runs at 60fps
Can confirm, however I don't get heat issues.

So Hero worth returning for.
I stopped playing but wanna come back but don't wanna get hero if he is dogshit. i may as well go for the Michael, malice meta and Cleopatra for pvp

>>1703098
He's decent specially with P2, but the Heroine is the meta unit here.

>>1703098
Kind of. Like the other anon said the heroine is stronger but she also needs better demons (Vanitas, Danu, Nuwa), while the hero can run a good team alongside the free selector demons.

just sent support another ticket regarding the framerate issue, and i got the same damned automated response. amazing
can you guys help on this? if they get enough mails maybe they'll finally get to do something

DDS cast has a chance to make it in now

>>1703621
Maybe in 2030 or something. I doubt they'll do these more than once a year, and next ones will definitely be Aleph, Demifiend, and Raidou. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't do Aleph soon due to how similar it would be to Hero/Heroine and Aleph/Beth. I wouldn't mind though because the PSX redesign is trash and we'll never get the original, so who cares.

>>1703621
smt's biggest flop?

>remove the only challenging endgame content from the game
>so many players quit that they have to pull out the nostalgia bait to save the game from eos

>>1704394
>remove the only challenging endgame content from the game
You can't possibly be talking about Eclipse, so what are you referring to?

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>>1704413
I think He meant Hell's Park

>>1704675
that doesn't fit either

>>1704675
They didn't remove Hell Park though.

>>1704487
>I made this post
>I forgot to register

>>1704487
fuck I forgot

>>1702501
What even are the demons in those pristine choice packs?

>>1705167
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/099667.html

>>1705176
Thanks
Who the hell would ever spend money to get these demons?

They are in (eventually)

Also what did you think of the event story? Should SMT 1 duo have done more?

>>1705181
It's the previous paid selectors mashed into 3 pack instead of a bazillion with some bonus like Demoneeho.
But yeah, it's absolute trash.

who the fuck came with nigger tower matching. i got a list full of endure spam+fuckerkado+nuwa in pixie 3.
this shit should get wiped already.

>>1705337
BT is advanced PvP for lack of abetter word so it makes sense.

>>1702468
>now Heroine on Step 5
Futsukochads, thank you for not leaving the station without me.

>>1685170 (OP)
is the game actually good or is it just a brand game

>>1705681
it IS decent, but the awful and stingy gacha mechanics hold it back. try it if you're curious and see how long you can last

>>1705681
I unironically like it more than V. Haven't played VV yet though. With that said, I've been playing since beta, so maybe the experience for a new player isn't as good. Right now is a good place to start though, with the free demons and the SMT1 even (reroll until you get both).

>>1706005
I hear he is dogwater and so Is the others. i kinda just went for Michal and Cameal. gonna wait a few days to get Metatron for a full light to team with sakuna

>>1706116
You heard wrong if you're referring to the SMT1 units; the heroine is top pvp meta and will be for a while.
>i kinda just went for Michal and Cameal
You mean the special files for new / returning players? The correct choices are (I) Mithras, (II) Barbatos, (III) Idun, (IV) Furykado. If you didn't made these choices, reroll. And get at least the Heroine.

>>1706160
The correct choices are Mithras, Sukuna Hikona, Idun/Demeter and Malice Metatron. If you already have any of them you can choose other demons but nothing going with these is stupid.

>>1706160
>>1706174
malice michael, Cameal, Sukuna Hikona, Demeter and Malice Metatron is what i got so far. are you telling me I need to go Hero, Mithras sakuna and metatron?

i thought Michael was good. He pure counters vantis right?

>>1706174
Malicetron has no staying power as long as health meta stays. Furykado will be OP because of his passive for a long, long time.
>Sukuna Hikona
Unless the choice is the dimensional one, then absolutely not.
>>1706195
When rerolling you have to see past the meta as it is right now. Wichael is a "win more" pick, meaning he's good against Vanitas, but only for people to whom Vanitas was a filter. If you don't qualify, then Wichael has very little room in most teams, specially if you're playing Randoms.

Nuwa, Fionn, Heroine and Furykado are the strongest units right now, with Danu, Inanna (needs P2) and Hero being in second place. If you can reroll and get Heroine, it's absolutely 100% worth sacrificing that Wichael for.

>>1706195
Those demons are good, but yeah getting hero is better.
The thing with Sukuna/Mithras and Metatron is that is the best team to deal with Danu because it can kill her before she triggers her field, that's why all of them are in the selectors.
Otherwise getting Hero is the best choice just because he is very straightforward and good, although he needs panels.
For now having Malice Michael is good if you can build a good team with him.

judging by the pvp these devs must be terrible at rock paper scissor

i don't even play this shit but op's pic gave me an idea

>>1706389
now with 100% less color samples

>>1706389
>>1706391
Based.

The eco mode issue was acknowledged by sega btw but not fix yet.

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>>1707418
Oh fuck, thanks for the info.
>>>/g/104694291 for more info but it seems the reason is DMCA abuse and the owner being retarded.

>>1707418
One of the best examples of "nothing of value lost". I don't like to tell people what to do with their time, but porn / hentai addicts have caused irreparable damage to their respective communities, and while SMT (sans Persoyna) lewders are not as pervasive, I will not mourn gelbooru dying. The hentai is rarely decent either, it's almost always fetish-aligned trash or off-model.

S

>>1685170 (OP)
Hey Dx2's. I'm looking to join a top faction, the stronger the better. I would say I'm a pretty good player myself, and am looking to join a large faction of strong and consistent Democalypse players. All of my mons are speced to doing the most damage and using their abilities for Democalypse and I have a ton of good mons for all elements. Anyone interested in talking? Pic related preview.

>>1707872
Pt. 2. Can keep going

>>1707872
>>1707874
Feel free to apply to /smtg/, our resident faction for this thread (and vg's /smtg/, obviously). We always get top rewards and we don't even ask for applicants to pull their weight, since a lot of us carry (but nice to know you put the effort), all we ask is participation. Just reply to this post once you have applied, with e.g. the first letter of your username so we know it's someone from here.

>>1707884
Done. 'z'. Tysm

>>1707860
I don't think you understand what a booru is...
>>1707418
>>1707536
Crisis averted for now, people convinced the owner to not go full retard though we're not sure he's going to stay still.

>>1708351
>I don't think you understand what a booru is
I do. Are you going to pretend Gelbooru isn't overwhelmingly a hentai repository? Write it. Write "Gelbooru is more than just for hentai!" so I can post a thousand gifs of laughing characters with a thousand different words for "retard".

They gonna rerun that SMT 1 banner.........right fellas...........right?

>>1708641
Yeah, probably once a year for the anniversary, so maybe October 2026?

>>1708637
>Are you going to pretend Gelbooru isn't overwhelmingly a hentai repository?
No but it's also a place that serve to save pics that are not available elsewhere because the artist went full retard and nuked all their accounts, which happen too often.
And no, all the alternatives are shit.
The pandapocalypse was huge news for the same reason: most of the porn was already scrapped by various mirrors, all the non-NSFW stuff wasn't and was only on the panda.

>>1708643
Then scrape it. This is like saying some porn site has documentaries found nowhere else. Then download it. This is a nothingburger for anyone who isn't a mindless pervert, just like exhentai was. When anon posted the PSA I went to check if there was anything I didn't have already and the answer was "no". Nobody is stopping SMT fans from hoarding pictures.

>>1708658
>Then scrape it.
That was the plan if it were to happen, yes, the threads already had people preparing that.
>This is like saying some porn site has documentaries found nowhere else
It's factual, feel free to not believe it.
>just like exhentai was
You're unironically a tourist if you think that, it was literally an event that left a mark in 4chan's history.
>Nobody is stopping SMT fans from hoarding pictures
Time and dedication, I don't think how fucking widespread artists in general are, most people just don't have the time to follow several social media platform and I'm not even talking about artist who don't even bother tagging.
I'm not sure why you expect art to magically fall into your lap.
FFS, even the SMT booru died and it turned out that no 3rd party bothered to make a save of it, people only saved whatever they liked or they assumed that it would be here forever.

>>1708641
I bet it will be back with the chaos hero and law hero.

>>1708231
You're in, sorry for the delay.

Do Democ or a demon will possess your body

>>1707884
Just joined starting with U, needed a new faction.
>>1708641
You would think, but its hard to tell with how this is the most involved Atlus has been with Dx2. Collab reruns are always up in the air. Different IP I know, but Pokemon Masters and the 3 anime characters never got reruns outside their own active periods, maybe I'm over thinking this but I wouldn't be surprised if this is our only chance to get them before they move on to the other SMT games. Also doesn't help that the tomes have an expiration date to them.

so we have to save for TWO yearly collabs now?

>>1708998
Anon, at this rate you won't get to save gems ever again.

>>1708998
And 2 anniverssary events.
The goal is clearly to drain you of your gems and make you whale.

this dogshit type of "event" needs to go

>>1709720
You can auto it.

>>1709720
It's kinda bad for newbies but overall I like leaving it do its thing while I sleep or work. It helps a lot that I have a lot of demons.

>>1709720
Only do them manually when you have a ticket, otherwise let them on auto.
A run with no missions completed is still 500-700 points depending on the boss and they give out stamina potion like candy, you're literally wasting your time by doing everything on manual.

don't forget to register for nigger tower bruvas

this is my reroll and im done. I was aiming for masa but I'm prob not going to use him in PVP and more go for light team with the keys coming.
Peri looks good with mithras for pve brand farming.

How I do guys.

>>1711284
>Hero
>Mithras (a guarantee)
That's it? Sure, Peri is good for BoS14 and Morrighan is good too, but in comparison to what you -could- get as a reroller right now? You're aiming low. I wouldn't stop rolling until I got Hero, Heroine, and Furykado as the bare minimum. That was you can pull Malicetron from the newbie file.

wish these fuckers get throat cancer
high pixie 2 btw

>still no news of the next demon
EoS soon...

>no demon announcement
Very strange, but I assume they will have a small event now because they updated includes stuff like "event preparations".
Probably a Longinus type of thing for those that remember that event.
We are one month away from Golden week so maybe they want to have a filler event before dropping more good demons.

>>1712980
>>1713180
I, for one, welcome a bit of a break from incessant grinding + a new demon (or two) every two weeks.

>Peri and Furykado
We are so back

Entity Albion has been added
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/sp/news/detail/099856.html
He seems okay for PvP, but really good for democalypse. Nice to see this goofy guy again.
Democ autists beware.

>>1714670
benis

>>1714670
>phys inanna
>2000 base pdef
just what the snake bitch teams needed...

>>1714670
He seems very decent for PvP though. Also, apparently there was a stream that I didn't see announced:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j4FrjPQ6Bc

>>1714785
I heard that famitsu app is going to get discontinued in a few days, so the devs probably decided to go the same way as the Kenshiro devs and have a scripted videos for some demons. They did the same for Malice Michael and Shiva.

>>1715051
>I heard that famitsu app is going to get discontinued
qrd?

>not even 20 minutes in and in my list of friends I see 1 Albion
what a luckchad

thanks for crashing the game mid fight devs

>>1715653
You're welcome.

>>1715322
Here's the article
https://app.famitsu.com/article/202502/34931
But tl;dr they will stop updating the site and it will redirect you to famitsu.
All mobile game updates will be posted there instead, but there is a chance that the dx2 devs decide to do bi-weekly videos instead of bothering with famitsu articles like before, but we will see next month.

>>1715760
>doesn't say why
I hate japs do this. Thanks for the link though.

just got annihilated by a wild albion. it was not fun

what's the best colour for Koumokuten?

>>1717487
any one of them, he's only good for tetra break

>>1717487
Yellow.

>>1717487
It literally doesn't matter as you will just use him for his underside skill.
I went for clear myself because of the requirements.

PSA: The next [Underside] skill is for Baphomet. His best archetype is teal.

>>1717487
Purple if your team doesn't kill the enemy team on the first turn, otherwise Yellow.
>>1718001
>I went for clear because of the requirements
What requirements?

>>1718967
>What requirements?
Have at least one clear archetype demon.

Baphomet's new skill sounds underwhelming, but it doesn't matter much.
My biggest worry is the new blood pond area. Elec and fusion only sound like a nightmare without stuff like rending thunder/thunder slash.

>those maya's buffs
my day is ruined

>>1719499
why are you surprised, she was already beyond unsalvageable. at least she's good for ar mode.

>>1719499
>>1719572
I don't get it. Usually these buffs make the buffed demon good at something, anything. But I don't see how anyone will see this, P4 her and think "It's time". They should have given her a synergy with Ouroboros or something.

>>1719499
>>1719572
>>1719610
and this is after they postponed her buff
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/099679.html

>still using almighty magic
>still not countering magic attacks
>damage reduction for light and dark instead of reducing all magic damage
wtf devs. this ain't the Maya I know

think there'll be an event?

>>1719936
They better add Raidou

DONT FORGET TO DO DEMOCALYPSE !!!

>>1719936
>June
Decent chance he is the first half anniversary unit.

>>1719936
it's almost guaranteed at this point. gotta milk hard the few remaining salarycuck whales

Kinda weird that we haven't gotten any sky fields or even another earth one since Danu introduced the mechanic

>>1722189
Thought so too, but maybe they don't want to overwhelm players with new mechanics so close to each other. Remember that they had to nerf the tutorial Baphomet because westerners were dying to him non-stop.

>>1722189
how's that strange. we haven't had new super reactions since hydra, nor the opposite version of spirit chains, nor nerve attacks, nor tenebrosity, and so on

>>1722674
Maya has super reactions.

>nothing but rerun banners
Dead week.

>>1723983
more like dead game. don't act surprised if we get another malice filler or a recycled model soon

>faction farming event
It's been a while since the last one. Remember that these events are filler and every time one happens we are probably getting a big event soon, so save your gems anons.
As for me, I want to get Malice Michael so I will be using my gems haha, but you anons better save. Every banner is bait.

>>1724072
>but you anons better save. Every banner is bait.
understandable, bruva
pulling for Squidward

Reminder that you can join, but not leave, factions while the event is going on and we have a couple of spots open in /smtg/ if (you) are currently factionless. Just apply and reply to this post with your name or e.g. first and last letter, and you should be approved shortly.

>event notes state gems are rewards for playing
>there are actually 0 gems to be found in the reward list
i don't know what to say now bruvas

>>1724618
It's a daily mission.

did my last summon and will save now. I returned some time ago but am farming brands right now. How i do
What team can i make for pvp to get far and how far can i go
I am about to get a free lost name. should i P1 him and put into my team
what PVE team should i make to do brand farming lucifer final floor?

>>1724829
>What team can i make for pvp
Malicetron + Mithras + Sukuna + Morrighan / Hero (depending on if Morri has her P2, speed requirements, etc.)
>how far can i go
I think you can might make it to D3 every week, or at least G1.
>I am about to get a free lost name. should i P1 him and put into my team
Maybe, depends on your other units.
>what PVE team should i make to do brand farming lucifer final floor?
Demeter, Malicetron, Mithras, Sukuna maybe.

What are some good farming floors for this event?

it's not like we can keep getting new demons, they're finite and most are in the game. we either get malice form for all demons or some other new form they come up with, like deified or whatever. pokemon games have shiny versions and even there they get alts for the same pokemon too? I guess alts here are the dimension demons

seems like i finished the event early

>>1726207
Everyone in /smtg/ seems to be doing the last five floors, so I'll check where's the ideal place to kill the other two demons. I'll let you know later today. For Dionysus 48F is the ideal.
>>1726241
You're crazy, there are still like 200+ demons they could add, and still a ton if you only include demons with available 3D models like stuff from V/VV.

>>1726241
They still have enough demons to fill 4 or 5 years.
It's just that, in this case with the faction event, they want to have a small week without any demons so they can come with the next big thing around golden week.
They do this every year so it's not a big surprise at all.

>>1726267
>>1726344
I want to believe, but if we really have so many demons still not in the game why on earth do we get malice versions...

>>1726670
Budgetary issues or maybe delays with the models or units' kits? It's a great question.

20 boxes and only got 1 skill out of it

>>1727427
>"We added gacha INTO your gacha"
U rike?

Armaiti is next

>>1728073
...who?

>>1728073
salvation nigger 2 yay. just what this shitter meta needed

>forgot event would end today
>had dozens of aura gate pots
Forgive me, factiobros.

>3 weeks for another recycled model
Grim.

>>1728918
>>1728073
She is clearly filler because golden week is just around the corner.

So, who do you think we're getting?

>>1732368
raidou

>>1732373
That makes no sense, why not wait until the release of the remaster in June?

>>1732368
For golden week? Hopefully a dimensional demon.
Las year I was salty that they wasted GW on cleopatra, so hopefully they finally pull the trigger and add Loki or Girimekhala.

>>1732594
Rude, I was pretty happy with Cleo.

>>1732594
I wouldn't mind they undusting Otohime and finally releasing her.
>>1732598
>foreign deity release on a thousand year japanese celebration
Come on, man.

>>1732605
We don't need more Japwank

are we still alive?

You NIGGERS better do democalypse today, or ELSE !!!!

Blew my load (of gems) on Hathor A.
Had to tome her because fuck those shitty rates.
No regrets, she was pretty much the last demonfu I was waiting for.

>>1732934
or ekse what?

>>1732957
I would do the same but right now I'm worried about going back to master rank and getting those sweet gems.
I will try to get her later because she is super cute. They did a great job with the model.

>smt if hathor
based addition

Should i pull for Hathor or Fionn?

>>1733399
Depend on your team.

>>1733399
assuming 7.5 hopefully reruns the anniv duo on double tomes, you could just wait to get fionn for cheap and pull for hathor now

>>1733585
Homura Akemi,Arshes Nei,Artemis,Guedhe for fast team
Danu,Nuwa,Masakado, Artemis for slow/mid range team

>got Vanitas
>when dark demo is ending
bruvas... i'm sorry

>>1733893
Hathor A doesn't really fit any of your team since she need press turn generator and ailments demons and neither of your team have both.
You could try to fit her in your slow team as a press turn deleter but I would rather just use Inanna or Heroine instead.
However, she's hot and I would understand if you'd want to pull for her anyway.

>>1733968
Bro, it's Force demo.

>>1734009
tell that to my leader

>>1734012
It's time to join /smtg/ then and get your god given max democalypse rewards then.

>>1734172
kys

>>1734276
Still seething, newfag-retard-kun?

Fuck that Arioch and fuck Wrath

>>1734353
>t. dark sneederlet/odinlet/hathorlet

>Lailah is the primo 3* for light hell park underside
>they give arianrhod the [underside] skill
What the hell are these faggots thinking?

>>1735395
I thought the same with Illuyanka. Why not Tiamat? And why Baphomet instead of Efreet? At least with Koumokuten it made sense because he already has Tetra Break.

>>1735395
They want you to roll for White Slash Underside.

>>1735395
devs having negative iq is nothing new

>>1735407
You can just transfer Tetra Break. The phys underside demon should have been Ose, or at least Kresnik for the double Nulls.

what's wrong with this guy, my alt also hangs up when facing a team with this guy in it so i know it's not just me having this issue
the battle just will not proceed

>>1736896
I thought I was the only one.
But yeah, he's bugged, him doing something (even receiving an attack) will sometimes freeze the game.
It "only" happened twice so far and I haven't been able to replicate it but it's annoying as fuck so nce both times happened on Sunday, when PvP is most active.

Hows the new girl?
I'm rolling for nuwa + her and a good unit but I got both odin and cameal right now. Made another with Nuwa and artimis and kinda hoping for musa

>>1739074
She kinda sucks ass.
There is the novelty of having another if... demon but aside of helping for BoS wrath, and of course ebeign good for democalypse, she doesn't help the meta as much.
I would recommend to just get danu and one of the new banners with multiple demons just for the chance of getting something good, but it's up to you.

>>1739074
She's only really good for offense, and good not stellar. I'd skip unless you whale.

>>1739074
god tier for the photo mode, very gimmicky and mid elsewhere
she's just a weird ball, even her stats are weird, like she uses pdef but her vit is low and her attacks are magical? should've been physical at least

Raidou demon popularity poll:
>>>/vg/523191291
>>>/vg/523192714
I'm voting for my wife Mermaid of course!

>>1739074
it's very easy to check if a new unit is good or not by checking pvp teams

Weekly reminder /smtg/ has a couple spots open, all we ask is you participate in democalypse / faction events, and notify if you're going to be away for a long period. Just apply in-game and reply to this post with e.g. your name's initial so we know it's someone from the board and not some random.

>they nerfed raw damage
NOOOOOOOO

>>1741316
what do you mean?

The Persona 5 gacha is getting a global release.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RqkEXMMZaGE

>>1741342
Giant who cares

>>1741340
He's probably referring to Democalypse changes they announced to cuck everyone using Hachiman and other non-elemental teams:
>Changes from this time
>Adjusted the Bonus Rating calculation formula during The Prelim.
>・The amount of increase in the Bonus Rating when attacking weak points has been adjusted.
>・The amount of increase in the Bonus Rating when dealing a certain amount of damage.

>>1741354
gay

>>1741354
>sabotaging the most popular gem pack demon
these fuckers are definitely nuts, and sadistic

>>1741354
explains why the ratings are all fucked now
got a 5,76 with a pixie with mabufubarion

>>1741358
>>1741505
Nah fuck you guys.
Demo is all about elemental weaknesses. Being able to use otherwise worthless 4* like Ignis or Anzu and get a decent score was neat. Having a demon that fully invalidates the explicit purpose of Demopocalypse (using elemental weaknesses) was gay and retarded.

>>1742003
wow le another le tank which makes le heroine more unkillable xD

>>1742003
is this a gundam?

>>1742003
News out in english and he's indeed more Heroine support...
At least it's an easy skip for me.

another kiwami done

First try

>>1742003
He is cool. A bit niche but it helps slower teams to survive even if he may make them faster than anticipated.
His more important role seems to be for wrath and fucking up arioch.

how is this game nowadays I remember playing it at launch and having fun but getting walled by story stages

what's a good team for wrath 10?
got the new demon

Is it me or they also changed the AI with the democ changes?
Herokado keeps using Kuyo Flash instead of Rending Ice.
How do you fix this?

>>1743328
shit treatment to free players, and the eternal pvp cancer and barebones pve as usual. stay away if you want to keep your sanity

I just noticed they added new brands

the hachiman nerf was a nothingburger

>>1743752
What changed then?

>all around useful awakening skills
>godtier support
>can solo heroine and her team
>secretly becomes SSS tier in all pvp modes
how can one man be so based?

>>1744411
he's that good? personally if i see anyone use him in pvp all i see is an easy win

>>1744411
>can solo heroine and her team
Literally how? All the heroines I meet have at minimum 3k in both phys and mag defense.

>>1744417
of course a t1 unit is going to suck on defense bruva
>>1744553
top 5 ma stat+auto-concentrate+85% base dmg boost+odin's press turn cheat is a hell of a drug. only tankier teams that have danu along can give him trouble

>>1744971
>can solo heroine and her team
>except in this incredibly common circumstance

my biggest issue is not the pvp, I just want to fucking farm endgame brands without having to waste my rolls for trash demons that are only useful for that one brand stage. lower the difficulty already, or les us get the highest rarity brands in 12

>>1746396
Skill issue

New demon Tengu.
Force and Light RDR and democ star.

>>1746981
Transferable: Wretched Blow
Divine Power of the Mountain God (Passive)
Force/Light Pierce.Null Mute
+50% to Max HP
+100% to Critical hit rate. +20% to AC
+30% to Force/Light damage
Decreases the count of Spirit Chains of Intimidation and Indignation received on self by 1
While the one with this skill is alive, all allies receive the following effect: +20% to Force/Light
While the one with this skill is alive, all enemies receive the following effect: +20% to Force/Light damage received
Activate the following Chain Effect when attacking first at the start of battle: Enters a state of Might, casts Tarukaja (3 turns), casts Rakunda (3 turns), and removes Bulwarks from all enemies
Activate the following Chain Effect when using Tengu's Mystic Art: Inflict Force/Light damage (Physical, Power: 100) to all enemies
Tengu’s Mystic Art (6 MP, 5 MP at Max Lv)
Inflict Force/Light damage (Physical, Power: 100) with Bulwark Pierce to a single enemy
If successful, Inflicts damage of the same attribute (Physical, Power: 100) with Bulwark Pierce on all enemies while removing Bulwarks. Puts user into a state of Might. casts Tarukaja and Rakunda (1 turn)
Red: Tengu Sling Stone/Force Amp
Yellow: Spiritual Power of Deep Mountains/Force Survivor
Purple: Dark Arts Guide / Light Amp
Teal: Repel Light/Light Survivor

HP: 877
STR: 201
MAG: 88
VIT: 108
AGI: 259
LUK: 147
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202505/42440

>>1746987
P1: +250 HP
Adds Null Bind. +20% to Force/Light damage. -1 to MP cost of Tengu’s Mystic Art.

P2: +150 PATK
Adds Null Charm.
While the one with this skill is alive, all allies receive the following effect: +15% to damage dealt. +20% to AC.

P3: +20% Speed
+30% to Force/Light damage.

Tengu Sling Stone 6MP
Inflicts Force/Light damage (Physical, Power: 50) 2 times on random enemies.
If successful, Inflicts damage of the same attribute (Physical, Power: 50) 5 times on random enemies and puts self into a state of Might.

Spiritual Power of Deep Mountains
HP stops at 1 HP upon receiving the first two killing blows. +20% to Force/Light damage.

Dark Arts Guide
+10% to AC. When dealing damage, does not consume a Press Turn Icon, except in Democalypse. (Once per turn)

>>1746987
Another Democalypse bot.

>>1746981
>>1746987
Depp cut. Aside of being decent for democlaypse he is obviously going to be good for BoS.
He might be useful alongside Mithras and Metatron for some dumb strats on PvP but it depends on what the other guy is running.
Overall a decent demon.

>>1747044
Tengu + Lugh + Hariti is going to destroy Sloth 14.

finally managed to save up enough karma for the summon file

>>1747584
>>1747587
Unless you already got all the karma transcend stones, you fucked up. That file is for the giga whales who ran out of things to buy with karma.

Whos gonna be Champion this time? It's OneSpace isn't it?

So uh...
Popping in since a few months after launch...

Did this game get QoL updates and such?
Did it get to be a better game or do I wait for P5 mobile?

>>1748057
It is what it has always been. More demons, more modes, etc. Yes, it has plenty of QoL since launch.
>do I wait for P5 mobile?
That looks like shit, so I'd say no.

>>1748057
it's the same greedy shit it was back then. nearly 10 years of forced pvp, barebones grind events, ass rates, nigger-tier monthly paycheck, and zero relevant qol changes to make your experience less terrible.
a good representation of the japanese mentality for sure

>>1748212
>nigger-tier monthly paycheck
The pass is not that old.

>>1748056
Voted for Artemis but OneSpace is probably the only dude who managed to reach the finals every time so far.

>>1748056
always voted on barong because he always sports a 100% winrate but this time i'm going with onespace

do you guys miss the old meta days?

>>1748415
Yes. That was the last time I used King Frost (with Ishtar, Surt, and Lv.1 Zhong).

>>1741342
>Dx2 is available on my country but P5X isn't
Weird. I wonder what's the reason and how they decide it.

Do any demons use Embattle brands nowadays, even conditionally? I'm taking advantage of the 50% discount on brand enhancement to finally organize my brands and I don't know what to keep besides one set of each main property.

hey everyone, divegrass anon here, now it's that time again to decide which characters will represent this thread in the Summer cup, so feel free to suggest any characters and/or a reply if you want to see your reps in the roster poll starting next friday, for things that affect the team as a whole please send your suggestions in >>1748270
>if you don't know what i'm talking about, tldr: https://pastebin.com/nr9ujDMN
Last time we managed to reach the knockouts of our first elite cup with Die from me! and The Ball of Balance on the team so let's keep up the pace for Summer

>>1748674
Alice and Elohim are pretty good representation of these threads, I don't see a need to remove or change anything. Thanks for doing this.

boss 10 annoying af

>>1748632
Not always, but for battles that have t0 ailment infliction is good to have them alongside demeter just to protect the team if you don't have a dedicated cleanser.

>>1748674
cut your throat

>>1748769
>>1748770
I assume it's impossible to beat without Oumitsunu?

>>1749209
seen people do it with hariti or with a solo baphA instead. so if you don't have those don't expect to be able to beat it

>>1749209
The most common strat seems to be dimensional baphomet, Undead Alice, and two demons with repel fire.

>>1749418
>>1749566
Thanks, don't have baphA so I guess it's impossible for me.

>sub 5min wrath 13 literally impossible without two oumitsunu and paid x5 speed boost
this shit is just worse than bos14 on release, but i guess that means a 3-stack corrosion applier is coming soon, aka the heroine killer

>New enishi matsuri this soon
>Likely smt2 or raidou
This reeks of desperation.

>>1750730
Probably Raidou to shill the remaster.

>>1748769
>>1748770
holy shit. you are right
fuck that dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDCL6FQjVhY
stream is live

maria and astaroth buffs

>>1751639
Did they put the wrong Cerberus there or are they buffing the 4 star one?

>>1751641
that is a very good question

>>1751632
>Passive 1: -1 Suppression
>Passive 2: 80 power HP recovery goes to 140
>P1: 30% physical damage reduction
>P2: 20% max hp
>P3: +20% HP recovery for all allies
>P4: Bonus Turn Nullification when hit by a critical hit once per turn
nice "buffs"

>>1751645
I assume those are not free?

new heroes

>>1751653
Nice, didn't expect them.

>>1751651
no it's p2w selectors

>>1751645
>>1751651
They are supposedly.

>>1751639
coming from the fuckers that thought the flute nigger needed a buff days after his release, i guess this isn't surprising

you guys seem cool, don't show up to duels tomorrow

>>1751675
>Summon Grand Prix
Who the fuck is that?

>>1751678
Daisoujou

>>1751678
daisoujou

>>1751678
Daisojou

>>1751681
>>1751682
>>1751685
Thanks.

>>1751729
>5* Muh Shuuvuu
Nice.

the choice files are free for everyone surprisingly. devs not being greedy fucks for once is nice, but it feels really desperate. is the game bleeding players that hard? last democ had some notable whales missing

>>1751768
I already said it before I can get within the top 5000 in PvP by reaching only Gold 2, which is fucking nothing.
From my own observe, PvP was a little more alive when Nuwa was released but it quickly went back to dead.
So yeah, I think Dx2 doesn't have long, 1-2 years at most, unless Sega is willing to keep funding the game.

>>1751768
I think it's because everyone complained when only newfags could get them last enishi festival. But yeah, not that many players, and revenue has been okay since January (with the only outlier being the SMT1 event unsurprisingly)

>free great idea
DeviconGODS we're eating good tonight.

>>1751852
Should have learn the first two times not to listen to people here for the Champion prediction advice

>finally getting malicetron, barbatos, and cleopatra
>for free
NICE
>>1751852
>I voted for OneSneed too
>he didn't even clear the first match
>>1751916
Then who should we choose? Pick at random and hope for the best?

Is the event bugged? I don't see SP Effect anymore, but maint isn't for another 3 hours.

>>1752351
Only for Oumitsunu. We better get some good apologems for this.

Got two in the first two pulls

>>1752580
You lucky bastard.

>>1751852
>I forgot to make a prediction
>>1752142
>finally getting malicetron, barbatos, and cleopatra
>for free
holy shit

is this the new hero transcend or were they always like this?

>>1752648
I don't have any of them and don't plan on pulling for them since half anniversary is only a few months away.
But they always were stronger than "normal" demons, since you could always infuse more mitama juices in them si I assume it was always like that.

>step 1 Heroine
wtf

barbatos or sukuna?

>>1752711
Sukuna.

>>1752700
good job, now drink bleach

>>1752648
New. They mentioned it yesterday.
That's why they are giving free smt1 character stones as well.

>>1751645
Newfag here, which is the best demon in each of those selectors?

>>1753063
cleo
barbatos
idun
masakado

Law hero any good? I can see Chaos Hero as a pretty obvious inclusion in tank-busting T1/Midrange teams but Law doesn't seem good enough to slot over the current stall/bulky demons. I notice they sort of gave him stats + purple awakening skill to make him fast. Is there a T1 team that would want him?

>>1753105
law hero seems geared for midrange defense teams than for t1 attack teams
just glancing over his stats he seems like an all around better shaddai. i think the ag amp 4 could be a waste, with the red and blue skills looking like better fits for his use, unless you really need to push his speed up
best use for him, i think, would be together with heroine, inanna, and possibly nuwa

>>1753063
they're all really good. what you should be aiming for is getting a good team. a strong demon is useless if it has zero synergy with its team. here's a breakdown to help you decide.
>selector 1
-camael is a swiss knife who also has the super rare great idea skill. good for light teams too
-cleopatra is a hard hitting speeder who can greatly debuff the enemy's defense. good on light teams too
-mithra is a key piece for light t0
>selector 2
-sukuna is another key piece for light t0
-barbatos is lmao
-astaroth is good if you want a speedy team
>selector 3
-idun makes your team tanky and has synergy with a demon from selector 4 and also with a free demon you'll get by playing pve
-demeter makes your party null all ailments
-maria is barbatos-tier
all three have great idea, don't forget about getting it
>selector 4
-masakado is busted. works good with idun.
-metatron is the light team carrier. he's also the final piece for light t0
-zeus is janky and only excels at pve these days. not recommended at all

>>1753063
Being strictly technical? >>1753068 is 100% correct. However, if you're just starting and have -none- of the demons in those selectors + you're struggling to advance in PvP, then going with Mithra + Sukuna + Idun (get that Great Idea) + Malicetron might (and only "might") be the ideal choice for a new player to get that T0 light team.

It all depends on what you already have, which is if you haven't made a decision yet, you should post your roster (ordered by grade, highest to lowest).

>>1751690
Why he look kind of like the Chud wojak

>free mithras, sukuna and malicetron
I bet they're going to release something like "While the one with this skill is alive, all party members receive no Light damage" soon.

>>1753225
He always looked like a school shooter.

Don't forget Hell Park + Underside and Kiwami ! Just a few hours left !

>heroine+law hero+nuwa+yellow albion
how do you kill this

>>1754966
I wondering too, they really want me to pull for Hero and Chaos Hero because they would obviously help a lot but I know the half anniversary is soon.

Which Furykado has the best transferable skill?

>>1755425
phys vital

just a pointer to anyone building their dominion
yellow archetype has prayer

>>1755616
You don't need it though:
>5 Dominion [Underside] Passive
>Activates the following Chain Effect when it becomes a party member's turn to act: Cures all party members of their status ailments and then casts Barrier on them. (Once per turn)
If you -already- had a Dominion leveled to 50 like I do, then by all means give him the [Underside] skill. Otherwise with these 3*s, it's optimal to make them clear for when one of the requirements needs a clear unit.

>>1755386
i'm glad nobody pulled for albion. guy's an absolute nightmare when you want to random

barrier mommy needs a super eza...

>>1756297
A what?

Should i get Zeus and Demeter? I already have other demons

>>1756594
>Should i get Zeus ?
Unless you want him to get your Democalypse scores a bit higher, then absolutely not. Get another Furykado or Malicetron. Zeus will never see PvP again, while the other two will be around for a while, so paneling either of them is ideal.
>Should i get Demeter?
No, even if you're having trouble with ailments in PvE, I would recommend another Idun with Great Idea. She's been made all but obsolete now.

Even if I was offered 3x of each instead of Malicetron and Idun, I'd still pick the latter (I already have Furykado P2).

>>1756605
I do like Democalypse. I pretty much only play PvP for daily rewards
I already have Danu and she completely replaced Idun for me, i just wanted Demeter for the completion

What the FUARK do I use Chaos Hero with? I keep getting outsped and I don’t have Fionn because I was in Brazil hunting for fat ass during his thing.

>>1757312
In that case go for Zeus and Demeter then, but do be aware you're doing yourself a disservice.
>>1757338
Filthy beanmonkey, no advice for you.

>>1757513
someone on the team has a serious boner for shiva with the amount of buffs it's gotten over the years

>>1757312
>just wanted Demeter for the completion
Join the demecult.
>>1757513
It's a weird buff considering he is already good and these changes barely make him better. I guess he has the upper hand on the Malice Shiva - Medusa matchup, bit I don't know if that happens often.
These buffs are weird overall, Hresverlgr seems fine but Cu didn't get shit.

>>1757546
>cu didn't get shit
>600 damage hit
He's mandatory for phys demo now

>>>>>>>>cerberus buffs
what's the point? might as well use the free pascal at that point

>>1757613
probably because of underside

>>1757613
The point is to use both.

>Hresverlgr can output more damage than Unit 01 and Elohim on top of being faster
breh

>>1757549
RIP P4 Mara. You had a good run

>>1757818
>>>>>>>180 ma
can he really?

>all versions of Cerberus get Chains of Intimidation
okay, that's cute

>>1757827
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/news/detail/100489.html
>reduces ice attribute
>+40% battle spd
>+20 ice dmg
>ice hachiman
and he hasn't even received his p4 yet

>Hresverlgr gets a better Chain Effect than Anat
>fast enough to be usable with Vivian and Apsu while Anat is too slow to be use with Botis an— Elec bros are slow altogether
M O G G E D

>>1757846
>and he hasn't even received his p4 yet
holy shit

>>1757846
they're giving panel 4's to 4 stars now?

>>1758827
Anon is clearly referring to Hresvelgr, dumbass. And White Rider has P4 already.

Is there a way to quickly beat Heroine + Nuwa + Danu? I'm sick of 10 minute fights and I don't have Fionn. Should I invest on a Malicetron + Mithras + Sukuna + Okuninushi work?

>>1760200
>Should I invest on a Malicetron + Mithras + Sukuna + Okuninushi work?
No, this get countered by the very team you're struggling against.
>Is there a way to quickly beat Heroine + Nuwa + Danu?
Roll for Hero + Chaos Hero :^)

This game can suck my cock!

>>1760346
I have Hero already, but I'm retarded and can't figure out how to wipe these whores. Can I pull it off without Chaosman and Fionn? Dimensional Odin maybe? Dagon?

>>1760410
Tried it again with better brands and team. Team was Thoth, Gabriel(P4) , Uriel(P3) and two Malicetron. My time was 4:49. No idea how I do same with Deceit 14

>>1760430
Dimensional Odin, Lugh, Mara, and Hariti, no support needed, 3x speed is fine. Give Nihil Claw to Odin and Lugh.

If they were planning to rerun Hero/Heroine banner why didn't they let us keep their tomes?

>>1760447
money

>>1760435
>Dimensional Odin, Lugh and Hariti
Don't have any of these. My team Deceit 14 team is Yoshitsune, Teal Asura, Idun, Kalki(not mine) and Homura Akemi

>>1760423
Danu force you to attacks that hit several times and Nuwa force you to use single target attacks on her first.
The attack order should be
>Nuwa
>Heroine proc
>Nuwa again but this time with aoe skills so you can take out more than just her if possible
At this point there's should be only 2 heroine crest, you should target either the next most problematic demon or heroine herself if the others are not as threatening.
You just need to remember that heroine need 5 of her crest to proc it.

>wasted 17000 gems on Hero/Heroine banner first time
>wasted 10000 gems on Hero/Heroine banner now

>>1760940
sounds like you're going to get the next event demon on first pull

What magic trick do whales use to get all the Underside exclusive skills? Every time i look at the top teams each of them has every unit equipped White Slash (Underside) or similar busted skill it's ridiculous.

>>1761036
You might have it the other way around. The reason why they score so high is because they have those skills.

>>1707884
who's this? why did the recruitment tone change? did that loser die from the vaxx?

>>1761319
>did that loser die from the vaxx?
kek

>>1761319
>STILL seething months later
If you want attention so bad just say so

>>1761340
are you okay lil bro?

>>1760447
because FUCK YOU, dear player

https://www.famitsu.com/article/202506/44441
Unique Skill : Snow King
Gain Fire and Ice Pierce.
Fire and Ice damage dealt is increased by 20%.
The effect on own battle speed is increased by 50%.
Reduces intimidation and rage spirit chains by 1 count.
When starting a battle as the first mover, the linked effect "Increases all allies' press turn icons by 1."
Survival effect "All allies' natural MP recovery is increased by 1, and all enemies' damage taken from Fire and Ice attributes is increased by 30%."
[Life Crest - Punishment]
When it is your turn to act, two Life Crests - Punishment are engraved on you, and when an ally, including yourself, hits a weak point, one is engraved.
When two are engraved, all allies are put into Tarukaja+ state and all enemies are put into Rakunda+ state for one turn.
Ice and Flame Halo MP: 6 Number of uses: None
Deals residual fire or ice attribute magic damage of 75 power (total 300) to a single enemy 4 times. (Attribute is automatically selected)
When the attack is successful, the linked effect "Reduces the fire and ice attribute compatibility of all enemies by 2 levels for 1 turn." "Gives all enemies 2 counts of decline. (Once per turn)"

>>1761920
pretty good companion to hresvelgr speed teams now that it's become pvp viable

>>1761920
>gems: 128
>they announce lucifrost

why no sp effect?

>>1762668
Was wondering the same. Clearly a bug. We better get a free Lucifrost as an apology.

>>1762668
>>1762703
>Changelog
- Silver SP Effect has been eliminated to allow for more freedom of organization and enjoyment
- Probability of a boss appearing when a quest is completed has been increased
- "Proof of Malice" earned when a bosses are defeated has been increased.
- Undead Alice, Belial, Nebiros added to the "Demon Subjugation Medal Choice Summon" lineup

>>1688420
ez

>>1762853
didn't mean to reply

>>1762853
Post team.

>>1762884
Thanks, I'm only missing the statue and friends with Heroine.

>Hresverlgr didn't get P4
But why?

Has anyone tried the improved Cu Chulainn and Cerberus for PvE, specifically BoS?

>>1764682
cerberus was insane in phys democ
outperformed the majority of my 5*s doing up to 110k damage
Cu Chulainn's increase wasn't as impressive, went from a measly 40k to 60k
other than that cerberus brought me out of B rank and into A rank in underside. both cerberus and cu chulainn have been successful for me in d14, but my team is not good enough yet to reach that sub 5 minute clear

>>1764687
Phys democ? This was ice democ that just ended.

>>1764695
i'm not part of your guild

>>1764697
Obviously, but why would your faction run phys demo when you lose on rewards?

>>1764712
because i wanted to do phys democ

>>1764682
Cu Chulain does really decent damage for BoS but that's about it.

>>1761968
I have him and also a hresvelger p3, who else should I add? among speedsters I have
>morrighan, okuninushi, kartikeya, macha, d.sukuna, astaroth
among other ice units
>apsu, dagon, frost ace p4, anahita
and fire units
>smt1 hero, pascal, elohim

>>1765676
morrighan is still the best speedster

your fourth member would either be hero or karti
hero is all around one of the best units. karti will push your team speed beyond what all others you have can, but you'll need phys pierce weak to use it, and it also needs to have all panels unlocked
as a side i wouldn't use this team for randoms because it's really weak against ailment teams

>>1765920
Okuninushi is faster at P0 than Kartikeya at P3.

>>1766126
the team builder might be outdated and not complete but i tested what okuninushi adds to battle speed compared to karti, and karti adds more to battle speed than okuninushi

>>1766133
It's wrong, just check for yourself. Add a Kartikeya and a Oku one at a time in a party and see the speed.

>party Muh Shuvuu for the Raidou shilling mini event
Nice.

The English site has yet to be updated, so here's some of the new demon buffs.
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.jp/sp/news/detail/100621.html
They will be added tomorrow.
Tl;dr Dagon gets some qol updates, as well as better good aura.
Daisojou gains salvation but he can only cast it one per turn, and with one of the panels one per battle.
Quetz gets pierce for light, fire and force with panels, as well as other stuff like fortify and concentrate.
Thor overall got a few small bugs to increase his damage on mjlonir.

>>1766305
>Daisojou gains salvation but he can only cast it one per turn, and with one of the panels one
oh you mean spirit chain of salvation not giving him the skill salvation

Dagon
>ice pierce
>immune to Bind, Charm, and Mute, and reduces the Spirit Chains of Intimidation and Rage by 1 count when entering a state of might
>lethal flood is now 200bp (thought it was already 200bp with the chain being 100bp
>enters state of might and charge when attacking first

Dai
>cleansing shout casts mute (p3)
>70% light reduction is now 50% light reduction and 20% dark reduction
>soul drink casts spirit chains of salvation (once per turn)
>cures ailments and removes debuffs on death

Quetz
>concentrate when reviving
>all its attacks pierce
>dragons on team get a 20% dmg boost
p4 confuses me because it says it gains 1 boost when using a magic ability
>“Recovers 2 MP and gains 1 count of Boost.”
is this Quetz A?

Thor
>mjolnir is still MA based but has pierce now
>100% critrate
>electric 100bp chain attack at the end of turn p3

>>1766337
>is this Quetz A?
Normal quetz
>oh you mean spirit chain of salvation not giving him the skill salvation
Yeah, my bad.

>>1766337
>Recovers 2 MP and gains 1 count of Boost
Boost/Augmentation is supposed to be Fortify, so he casts 2MP and gains 1 level of fortify.

ok so w14 you need crit because all non-crit non phys/fire attacks deal 0 dmg

>>1766584
good news, i guess, w13 team works just fine on w14
one problem however is it takes nearly 30 minutes for it to finish

>>1766589
>23 minutess for 1 fucking stage
devs need to rework this because it's completely retarded

>>1766589
ok so i managed to get it down to 6 minutes with a panelled oumi support and swapping nebi for cleo
going to take a while before my oumi has p2 unlocked

New demon news?

>>1769585
Easy skip.

>>1769585
Vile Saturnus
Transfer: Fire Survivor

Ruler of the Golden Age (Passive)
Fire Pierce, Null Bind/Mute. -1 to counts of Corrosion received
+100% to Crit rate. +50% to Max HP.
While the one with this skill is alive, all allies receive the following effect:+20% to AC/Dmg dealt. -40% dmg received
Additionally, all enemies receive the following effect:+20% dmg received
Activates following Chain Effect when using a Fire skill: Adds additional Press Turn Icon (Once per turn)
Activate the following Super Reaction when receiving Magic or Fractional dmg: 80% chance to inflict Bind/Mute
Recovers 100% HP (once per battle)

[BoS 14: Additional Effects]
25% chance to add 1 additional item drop (will not occur as support)
While alive all enemies receive the following effect: +40% to Phys dmg received

Fallen Star's Golden Blaze
Inflict Fire dmg (Phys, Power:250) with Bulwark Pierce to a single enemy
If successful, gives all party members a Bulwark with 15% of HP for one turn
Enter a state of Charge and Might (twice per turn)
*Based on PDEF, Ignores Counters

Red: Flare Impact / Fire Amp
Yellow: Warrior's Grace / Fire Vital
Purple: Master Assassin / Fire Accele
Teal: Null Ice / Fire Enhancement

Drain Fire, Null Light, Resist Dark, Weak Ice
HP:1328
STR:194
MAG:98
VIT:204
AGI:192
LUK:139

P1: +250 HP
+20% Fire dmg. -1MP on Fire skills

P2: +150 PDEF
Null Charm. +500 PDEF
Activate the following Chain Effect when activating Fallen Star's Golden Blaze: 1 turn Luster Candy

P3: +250 HP
+20% Max HP. +20% Fire dmg

Flare Impact
Inflict Fire dmg (Phys, Power:60) with Bulwark Pierce 4 times to random foes
*Revive Seal
*Based on Phys DEF, Ignore Counters

Warrior's Grace (Passive)
Endure thrice with 1 HP. Activate the following Chain Effect when activating Fallen Star's Golden Blaze: Allies recover 1MP (Once per turn)
Activate the following Chain Effect when downed: Inflict Fire dmg (Phys, Power:100) with Bulwark Pierce to all enemies and burn 1 MP (Once Per Battle)
*Based on PDEF

>>1769651
>Activate the following Super Reaction when receiving Magic or Fractional dmg: 80% chance to inflict Bind/Mute
I build malicetron t0 just in time it seems

>>1769651
>-40% dmg received
just like that?
>bind/mutes, endures and nukes you when he dies
>he's Danu support
STOOOOP
>basically free demon from Special Absolute Summon after 10 days
neat i guess

>>1769651
>>1769585
My malice metatron team.....goddammit.

>>1769694
>>1769899
>I haven't touch my choice files
I mean, It was quite obvious in hindsight

ok so they just removed sp effect entirely?

>>1770284
At least for these two events, yes. But the amount of stuff you get is around the same, 22 to 24 event currency if you are playing the last leveling quest, 10 if you play BoS (5 stamina)
I heard some were mad at the change but I honestly don't mind just because this type of event sucks ass and you never get enough currency, unlike AG for example.

>>1685170 (OP)
I started up this game again and I'm wondering if it's really for me. Is it realistic to enjoy this game if I don't participate in PvP and just build my favorites? I like the Aura Gate and Alter World is kind of neat but I feel like it's impossible to earn gems.

hope the frost genome they added to the exchange store is still there next month as i had no idea they added it and i've progressed so far in the ranks i can't gain the money to buy it

P5X is out btw
>>1741342

>>1770957
I'm not really interested...

>>1770650
>Is it realistic to enjoy this game if I don't participate in PvP and just build my favorites?
Yeah, but it can be hard just because getting gems will be difficult.

>>1770650
PvP is the main source of gems after you exhausted all PvE sources.
You're basically limited to 300 gems monthly from Hell's Park and whatever the various login bonuses give you and that not a lot.
You can also leech off a guild for democ gems.

I have a feeling next week will have a good bait banner, so I have been saving like 3k gems just for this.
My luck has been awful this year so I doubt I will get the 7.5 demons, but hopefully I can get something soon.
Half-anniversary is almost here anons. Good luck, and use your gems with responsibility, or don't.

>>1772463
we've had 4 weeks of bait banners, if next week is also a bait banner than whatever's next must be really good

Hell Park Underside seems to be getting easier every season.
I do love that the are giving me reasons to build up 3* bros though. I hope we get Ose soon. Would love to see some 1,2, and 4* [non-Jack] underside genomes though. I hope one day to have my OG PvP team of Fenrir, Loki, Ose, and Feng Huang all in playable/useful states.

>>1773202
Ose should've been the Phys are demon, everyone knows this. Just like Laila should've been the Light one, Tiamat the Ice one, and Efreet the fire one. At least they made Cerberus (4*) near mandatory for Fire.

>>1772463
>>1772506
Godly Shinado soon

>>1773202
>>1773355
Ose will get a special elec and phys passive. Trust.

A jack frost underside genome got stealthily added to the shop, go buy it asap, monthly reset soon.

I've never played any of these games before so I'll start with this one
https://files.catbox.moe/38j9yf.mp4

>>1773756
I got it, noticed it replaced Dominion's slot, but when new month arrived, it was still bought.
>>1773919
You can't go wrong with chronological release order.

scathach?
they're just giving it to random demons at this point

this is from previous month right? now way they got this high so fast

>>1774286
Nope, it's from this month.
The "meta" got figured out already and the conditions are rotating so you can usually plan ahead for them.

>>1774280
She was always force based in this game so it makes sense.

die