Discuss gacha games with the following traits;
>no FMC
>no playable males except (You)
>hetero relationship ONLY

>>1755992 (OP)
Tentative tier list

(S)tandard
>Crazy Ones
>E.T.E Chronicle
>Eversoul
>Girl Wars
>Haze Reverb
>How To Raise A Harem
>Mirren: Star Legends
>Snowbreak: Containment Zone
>STARSEED: Asnia Trigger

(A)cceptable
>Aether Gazer
>Azur Lane
>Cat Fantasy
>Horizon Walker
>Lost Sword

(D)isputed
>Blue Archive
>Brown Dust 2
>Echocalypse
>Girls' Frontline
>Goddess of Victory: NIKKE
>Memento Mori
>OUTERPLANE

TBD
>Anchor Panic (A)
>Azur Promilia (D)
>Book of Yog (?)
>Chasing KaleidoRIDER (S)
>Heaven Hells (?)
>Persona 5: The Phantom X (A)
>Project C (?)
>Project RX (?)
>Project VK (?)
>Project Witches (?)
>Star Savior (S)
>Stella Sora (D)
>Trickcal: RE:VIVE/Chibi Go! (S)

Dead/Maintenance mode
>Destiny Child (D)
>Last Origin (S)
>Magicami (S)
>Soul Tide (?)

>>1755992 (OP)
Previous: >>1724837

>>1755997
>Cat Fantasy
I dumped like 60 bucks on this to get that one bathing scene and then dropped it. Just couldn't get into the gameplay, the fanservice was good though.

>>1755997
>Crazy Ones
>Girl Wars
>How To Raise A Harem
never heard of these, how are they?

Forgot to add Codename: Cedar in TBD

>>1756009
Haven't tried those myself but from from quick reading on other sources they fit into the category albeit their gameplay is questionable.

>>1755997
Your lists are dumb, you can stop posting them.

Thoughts on what route SU might go with project witches?

>>1756059
i think it's fine because there's too much gray area in the ML space. Reality is, the games that hold up to true ML standards are basically eversoul, which hardly anyone likes, and snowbreak. Everything else just allows discussion to open up, and maybe discover some new games.

>>1756068
after seeing the abomination that nikke has become, I lost all interest.

>>1756068
Probably a lot of yuri bait. They'll probably also allow players to choose the MC's gender if there even is an MC.

>>1756081
They'd really abandon the audience that made them whom they are? Sad.

>>1756068
We'll see how much they censor it.

>>1756059
You can show yours for starter.

>>1756086
Now that I think about it, I never played Destiny Child because I heard there was yuri in it. If that's true, maybe this would be a case of going back to their roots?
Either way, anything other than straight romance sim is bad.

>>1756068
somehow have a feeling it'll be all girls including (You) with no mMC option

>>1756086
many such cases

>>1756068
Will be censored before release.

>>1755997
>Azur lane in acceptable with the other mixed toilet trash
KYS

>>1756188
unless you're new to the game, azur lane was yurishit, and censoredshit before. Only after nikke and snowbreak went ML, they started changing their direction, most notably during the vichy event with Mogador's and Alscace's release. They started going hard on ML because it was around the time Azur Promilia was announced and they didn't want to hurt Azur Lane's revenue because it was funding Azur Promilia the genshin clone mixed toilet. It was the height of the ML movement in CN. The whole Azur Lane is "ML" is fairly recent, i know because I've played the game since release and dropped it when I realised they are using Azur Lane's revenue to fund Azur Promilia. You can browse r*ddit forums and see people complaining that azur lane has gone too gooner and other retardations, because they are right, it wasn't the original vision.

>>1756191
Stfu, faggot. They're only doing it in their first year. And if you think it's a problem, then most of (S)tandard game won't count.

>>1756209
>first year
cute assumptions, i guess you're here to troll, this didn't happen until last year.

>>1756212
>you're here to troll
That's you, well poisoning fucker. The fact that you're including mixed toilet game in acceptable category and put BA, Nikke, and GFL in disputed category shows your true color.

>>1756221
>BA
never went yuri outside their stupid little mangas with shigure, nexon fired ikusan for being a yuricuck, got him arrested too
>Nikke
mild yuri with siren/mori, crown/chime
mild cuck with legendary commander/liliweisse
>GFL
DSR-50? i guess? she's sort of a dyke, probably because liduke is a tranny.
>meanwhile AL was CGDCTshit until last year.
post proof otherwise

>>1756230
The fact of the matter is Ml schizos cant accept even the slightest hint of yuribait even if its not taken seriously, nevermind the fact that its been used as an common gag trope in straight anime. Regardless the list sucks because its not in line with what the initial condition of >no FeMc, which echocalypse has.

>>1756234
Isn't that exactly why Echocalypse is in Disputed with BA which has no canon sensei gender and GFL which as a choice as well?

>>1756230
>meanwhile AL was CGDCTshit until last year
Proof next thread?

>the guy who was constantly being mad at other games is an ALfag all along
Can't say i'm surprised with how manjuu treat them as of late.

>>1756273
>Mad at other game
I literally think that all of that game should be at least acceptable.
You well poisoning tranny literally put mixed toilet above that game. No one will take you seriously tranny. Take this last (you).

>>1756269
>>1756273
>ESL troons think CGDCT is a compliment

>>1756280
It is. You seem uneducated.

>>1756280
Zero reading comprehension anon....
>1756281
As expected. Well poisoning tranny.

just signed up for the Kaleidor cbt, hope I get access
>t. never got into any beta test for any game

>>1756278
You vill fund mixedmilia and you vill like it.

>>1756230
Did they really arrest a nigga for being into yuri? Incredibly based if true but I can't any info on it. It's mostly just people crying because he's leaving.
Besides, don't the BA devs also support female Sensei which is inherently yuri?

>>1756304

>>1756298
>He thinks that I hate Azur Promilia
Lmao. I can't wait to play that game.

>>1756304
>don't the BA devs also support female Sensei
Not at all. In game content like OChinatsu heavily imply sensei is a man.

>>1756306
Has the story gotten anywhere since then? Haven't played the game since i finished vol F

Is there any hope for this game. I like the character designs tbf, but I don't want to invest in it if it's gonna eos in a month.

>>1756322
didn't it come out a few days ago? i wouldn't worry until next month's revenue report. crunchyroll is shit, but street fighter duel did really good for a while. i'm sure mirren will last at least 1 year. I hate CR btw, just giving a realistic take

>>1756322
>crunchyroll
>censored
I instantly lost my will to try the game.

>>1755997
You'd better remove Snowbreak from S-tier

>lurking eversoul game reviews
>surprise there still a woman play this
>the woman complaints the eversoul story is boring
Why women like this?

>>1756316
Idk. This is an autistic amount of uncertainty for a question that can be answered clearly with a line like "you're so handsome" or "hello sir". This has to be intentional on the dev's part at this point and is insanely immersion breaking (and gay).

>>1756338
i'm surprised more women don't latch onto eversoul, it's pretty wholesome

>>1756342
>tl;dr sensei is an ambiguous troon by design

>>1756316
So what? Tons of girls are shipped between each other in the game anyways, and sensei never fucks (implied), kisses, or even confesses to a girl, so it's not like the game is ML anyways.

>>1756343
yuri game...

>>1756348
More like the devs don't have the balls to commit to their incel fanbase or they've grown confident enough to believe they don't need them anymore. Either way, the devs themselves don't share the harem vision so it's not for me.

>>1756329
You don't play the game.

This is just another gacha drama thread lol

>Azur Lane
>the actual original straight mans game thats never faltered or changed course from its inception despite CCP hits and other organized strikes against it
>not standard
I cant take you seriously probably a resident gender goblin cuckold that's been seething about it for 8 years.

>>1756070
Yeah, similar to omnislops and their investor scams, straight man's gachas are also in some kind of arms race to claim that "LaDS for men" title and it's gonna take a while until something finally came out on top.

>>1756396
Basically Harem simulator with canon marriage+dating sim i guess?

>>1756395
>azur lane
>not a slush fund for mixed-toilet-milia

>>1756404
Also one thing the LADS stand out is that they ban Yaoi diccussion/fanart+ active Yumes fanbase Will keep LADS free from fujofags. This what i want to see these active commitment from straight male gacha.

>>1756404
thats just tenkafuma but there is no romance cuz MC is NTRman from hell who only thinks about sex
iirc there was marriage with the demon lord girls tho

>>1756070
ML "standards" are just the galgame standards but harem, so a game with a male self-insert MC and all the playable girls are for (you). The reason there's so much ambiguity over what games are ML is because most of them don't do this very well, they make MC gender ambiguous or put yuri in the harem, or make new girls that don't care much about you. These companies should just hire galgame writers for their games to be honest.

>>1756359
I don't understand what strategy blue archive is trying to follow, they keep making less and less money and loosing to azur lane, I guess they earn a good chunk from marketing but why not commit to ML fully? I don't think that the vast majority of the playerbase is going to mind, maybe even gatekeep it behind a paid marriage system, if you want to keep things platonic don't buy the rings, if you want the sloppy toppy with the students buy the 600 yen rings to get a romantic scene, that's it. Don't change the story and events if the devs are so anal about it, just one romantic scene after buying a ring, just make it fully voiced, and unambiguously romantic. Even fucking FGO kinda did this with the valentine's scenes (for like 95% of them anyways).

>>1756418
Yeah, it's not a complicated at all. The problem is that too many retards fell in the sunk cost fallacy and want to shill their shit even if it doesn't meet the criteria.

Horizon walker's hyper ML. It's so ML it's a little embarrassing, why is it in A tier?
They pander so hard, they literally call the player "Human God". The main conflict for most of the characters is who gets to fuck you.

>>1756453
Have they genderbent all the furries?

>>1756453
agreed, other than a few furries thrown in as a gag, Horizon Walker is probably the most top-tier ML game, It belongs in Ωmega tier.

>>1756457
They're in the process of doing it, all furries are technically female now. But are you really going to put up a nutaku chink trojan virus above it?
Bad.
>>1756458
I really wish I was recording when I pulled her. Her pull animation was so simple yet sexy. And her design is one of the best. Women so sexy that even normal clothes can't hide how gifted they are is so peak.

>>1756458
Only problem it has is that it had males on launch. MLbros don't like this, because we know that a game that launches with males can change direction at any time (like how BD2 released a male despite having promised not to). I don't have a problem with calling Horizon Walker ML, it's just that people should know that it does have playable males.

>>1756418
Anon... the so called "galgames" you quote would still qualify as having yuri considering what you consider yuri.

You need to understand that the vast majority of the world doesn't have so fucking small dicks that they fear two girls being friendly with each other.

>>1756395
He's literally shitposter from /alg/. At least this thread will become his containment zone.
>>1756410
>Mixed toilet in CBT(Ling Yi)
>Money is used to fund Mechabreak
Snowbreak bros...
I think you're just trolling in here.

>>1756531
He is a well poisoning tranny, bro. Just ignore him.

>>1756486
>You need to understand that the vast majority of the world doesn't have so fucking small dicks that they fear two girls being friendly with each other.
The vast majority of the world hasn't played galgames, nor are they familiar with otaku culture.

>>1756486
Galgames have yuribait, not yuri. The girls are still for you, the yuribait is just to make you imagine a threesome with them. I'm talking about actual yuri, as in two girls being implied or outright stated to be in a lesbian relationship.

>>1756545
So just like most of the gachas you bitch about being yuri.

>>1756458
>omega is a common BL term
Nice try faggot!

So what is verdict about gakuen Idolmaster? Do this game ml game or not? Since it meet two criteria (no femc, and no male character).

>>1756624
The Producer in the game is canon male at least. They made a manga with a female producer though. Some girls are obviously for (you) like Rinami and the others are arguable.

>>1756396
So basically those games from DMM/Fanza then

>>1756646
Do you have a list of which ones are for (You)?

>>1757399
Try comparing them to this
https://youtu.be/SbnH9H4z49Q?si=xflBN03-xgihX3s0

>>1756396
>>1757399
The problem with "male version of LaDS" is that the lack of marketing spending on this gachage except azurlane, nikke and blue archive (as result, this three game are popular other)

>>1757423
all the girl character in gakuen Idolmaster are for (you)

>>1755997
Any of these have h scenes?

>>1760210
Magicami

>>1755997
Fixed tier list
(S)tandard
>Crazy Ones
>E.T.E Chronicle
>Eversoul
>Girl Wars
>Haze Reverb
>How To Raise A Harem
>Mirren: Star Legends
>Snowbreak: Containment Zone
>STARSEED: Asnia Trigger
>Azur Lane
>Horizon Walker

>(A)cceptable
>Lost Sword
>OUTERPLANE ???

(D)isputed
>Cat Fantasy (SELECTABLE mc and some hard ships in-game)
>Echocalypse (SELECTABLE MC GENDER)
>Girls' Frontline (SELECTABLE MC GENDER and Dier "reapairing" the internals of your dolls)

(C)ope
>Blue Archive (tranny mc and some yuri-baiting in-game)
>Brown Dust 2 (lol lmao)
>Goddess of Victory: NIKKE (HARD yuri shipping in the last patches, bisexual characters and the LSKK)
>Aether Gazer (We have to hide male charcters in the release trailer but we put them in the final release, selectable mc gender and only like 4 charcters of the entire cast
have something romantic with the MC)


>TBD
>Anchor Panic (A)
>Azur Promilia (C)
>Book of Yog (?)
>Chasing KaleidoRIDER (S)
>Heaven Hells (?)
>Persona 5: The Phantom X (A)
>Project C (?)
>Project RX (?)
>Project VK (?)
>Project Witches (?)
>Star Savior (S)
>Stella Sora (D)
>Trickcal: RE:VIVE/Chibi Go! (S)
>Dead/Maintenance mode
>Destiny Child (C)
>Last Origin (S)
>Magicami (S)
>Soul Tide (?)

>>1760530
Had me to check on cat fantasy, not only it has playable male leftovers, it also let you select the MC so it doesn't even belong on the list.
Still not agreeing on Azur Lane though.

>Had me to check on cat fantasy, not only it has playable male leftovers, it also let you select the MC so it doesn't even belong on the list
Correct
>Still not agreeing on Azur Lane though
Wrong and also gay, broken clocks and such

>>1760595
>it belongs there because...it just is okay???

>>1760530
A bit disagree with Blue Archive, but I agree with this list.

>>1760530
>outerplane acceptable and above AG, Nikke, BD2, BA
>"games i like vs games i don't like" the list
Throw in wuwa and zzz too by your standards. If you're not going to attempt to be objective, why bother? just shitpost like everyone else and say i hate X game because of made up Y reason

>Magicami (S)
That's like saying Taimanin RPGX is S tier, considering the Hscenes are not all with (you).

>>1760740
Yeah I remember Magicami having literal bestiality and scenes with other dudes. It should be in cope or disputed.

>>1760740
Good to know, does that apply the non-H version of the game as well?

>>1760749
I don't play the neutered version.

>>1760740
Magicami was a hentai gacha, not ML. The point was the girls being total sluts, the porn itself can be explained away by alt universe bs anyway. The offline version has everything unlocked so I can enjoy it at any time.

>>1760907
Btw I saw their X account posted about a new game, though I'm not sure how they're related exactly. I looked into it and it has NFT shit lol, nips truly are late to everything.

>>1760530
Is Is there any this chart for /jp/ gachage only?

>>1760919
>nips truly are late to everything.
It's just a symptoms of game industry are unable to adapt the changing customer base.

>>1760933
last i checked mbgg got their own spreadsheet albeit not explicitly saying one game is better than the other.

>>1760952
Thanks anon, I will check mbgg threads for this anon. But yeah i have one complaint, Azur Lane should put on disputed tier or Cope tier, due to manjuu not willing to rewrote certain game characters that involve ship-pairing/shipshit (example : Jean Bart and Massachusetts, Bataan and weser, Enterprise and Belfast and many more).

>>1760567
This. Azur Lane should relegated into disputed tier or Cope tier

>>1760956
Can you show me this pairing between enterprise and belfast with in game screenshots? Or at least a link to the dialogue in the wiki? I can't remember it at all.

>>1760907
>Magicami was a hentai gacha, not ML
It is clearly not S tier.
>The point was the girls being total sluts, the porn itself can be explained away by alt universe bs anyway.
(C)ope tier is where it belongs by this thread's standard.

>>1760984
NTA, he maybe thinking of the anime, where they were dykes for each other. In-game I don't recall them ever referencing to each other. Plenty of other yuriships in-game though, like wales/eugen.

>>1760984
okay i admit i found only one lines that mention enterprise with belfast. Even then my schizo mind getting ptsd flashback with accursed anime. Atleast on azur lane, pls check this shit thoroughly due to their habit of yuri-baiting between ship in.the past.

>>1760988
Thanks anon. for voicing my concern

>>1760994
That was back in year 1 of the game, back in 2017. The Bart and Mass was never real, that was a schizo on the /vg/ thread. You already admitted that you don't even play the game, but it is true that there was some very, very light "friendship" between the botes 6 years ago(I wouldn't even call it shipping). Even then, all botes line up to rape shikikan, even the two botes who are confirmed bisexual are for (you), Portland (who says she wants at LEAST 10 children with you), and Ark Royal (who is the happiest she's ever been when she marries you, and wants you to rail her while she rapes destroyers).
They also apologized about the anime, since it wasn't written by Manjuu but by Yostar (and we know they love shipping and cucking going by how they handle blue archive collaborations), pic related.

>here comes the history re-writers manjuu apologists
kek, pathetic

>>1760986
Ok? I'm just giving my 2 cents. I agree it doesn't belong in S tier.

>>1761034
>t. 8 year shitposter still desperately trying to gaslight people about the game

>>1760988
>Plenty of other yuriships in-game though
Such as?
>like wales/eugen
This is the only one, lmao.

Is trickcal really an (S)? As in the mc is canon male and the girls are for (you)?

>>1755997
Damn, Eversoul is still around? I played it for like a week or two and I thought it was pretty cute and fun. I wasn't really looking for another gacha at the time, mostly just trying it out, plus I thought it wouldn't last. Kinda surprised to see it's still here 2.5 years later. Good for them.

>This is the only one, lmao
its not manjuu literally came out and said the yuri ship the anime was trying to do was fake and gay
they got so mad they have their own animation studio now
no one in azur lane is gay or lesbian
everyone in gensokyo is straight

>>1756322
Crunchyroll is a death sentence, sorry. There's a new chinese version reboot that's being worked on, so wait for that one if it ever takes off because it will probably come global as well.

>>1761316
>everyone in gensokyo is straight
Did he really say that?

>>1755992 (OP)
>Last Origin (S)
Use Erolabs

>>1756440
>but why not commit to ML fully?
>he wants a teacher to fuck their students
>ignoring the stigma

>>1761386
What does that mean

>>1761388
It's available to play.

>>1761387
>happens all the time IRL
>no one cares
>happens in a fantasy video game where students have halos over their head and shoot at each other with assault rifles
>ohhh god no, we can't do that, what would people think!

>>1761390
>happens all the time IRL
>no one cares
People get arrested.

>>1761393
nah, those are the ones you hear about in the papers. 90% of people don't get caught, people quietly fuck and gangbang and go about their lives, but that's a topic for /pol and not here.

>>1761396
>90% of people don't get caught
Which are?

>>1761389
heard it's no longer receiving new contents though did i mistake it as something else

>>1761398
It still gets updates. You just need to download the Korean version.

>>1761397
Me. It was me. I am sense, fucking my students.

>>1755992 (OP)
I'm out of loop on waifu gacha, can someone give me a list of games that are currently out and that will come out in future that fit the following criteria
>Male protag
>Waifu only playable characters (beyond MC)
>Playable on PC
I pretty much only know Nikke, Snowbreak, Azur Promilia, and Girls Frontline 2

>>1761449
Starseed techically got a pc client but you got to do a little searching.

>>1761449
>Waifu only playable characters (beyond MC)
>Azur Promilia
>Girls Frontline 2
you are aware they have a playable female MC?
>Playable on PC
action taimnanin, and 2.5D seduction angels fits your requirements

>>1755997
>>1760530
>Azur Promilia (C)
>not (S)
Why? It's literally the only open world waifu-only gacha releasing this year. You don't have options.

>>1761470
Yeah, I'd prefer it to be just male MC but honestly if I can pick male MC I'm good with that too. There's so few waifu gacha that are good so I can't be too picky. I tried Action Taimanin but honestly I can't get over the fact that it's a hentai franchise where every one of the girl has been orced a billion times, so I can't really waifu them. Will see seduction angels

>>1761470
>2.5D seduction angels
Tell me more. Isn't that the one with airing anime?

>>1761478
>I tried Action Taimanin but honestly I can't get over the fact that it's a hentai franchise where every one of the girl has been orced a billion times, so I can't really waifu them.
You be happy to know that AT's setting is where girls don't get orced because it's catered for kids. Meaning no hardcore sex content ever. So the girls are pure from any orc semen from start.
At least, that's better than the current state of RPGX in recent patches.

>>1761449
Who is going to tell him about nikke...

>>1761548
Anon . . . Shut it down

>>1761471
>waifu-only
What does that even mean, newfag? Redd*t is that away.

>>1761554
You heard me, tranny

>>1761471
>Why?
Female MC aka yuri aka wokeness

>>1760707
I put Outerplane with "???" for a reason retarded nigger, also WuWA and ZZZ would go in (C)ope/Cuck tier so stop dilating sister because I shit in your yuritrannygame
>>1761471
PAGmillia goes into (D)isputed tier at best because the game has selectable MC gender

>>1761342
Yes the japanese memed an entire art project out of it.

>>1761743
I mean is there an article about that claim?

Upcoming potential game project from mihoyo

their next-generation flagship game.

Title: UE5 Urban Open World

Tags: Modern Urban, Open World, Stylized Rendering, Multi-Storyline, PBR, UE5, RPG, True Romance Simulation, Highly Freeform Human-Centered Sandbox, AAA Cinematic, Next-Gen Console Platform.

Goal: A brand-new urban world delivering a cinematic immersive experience.
miHoYo's next flagship title.

Additional info: Originally known as Project SH, development began in 2020. The project was rebooted at the end of 2022, meaning it has already been in production for two and a half years. The reason they chose to reboot the project in 2022 was that it failed to meet expectations. If their next-generation title couldn't surpass competitors by an entire generation, they wouldn't release it. But if they manage to widen the gap, it would mean securing victory for the next five years.

Anyway, what is the comment about upcoming game project from mihoyo?

>>1762124
>Mihoyo slop
Cant believe you would even think of posting that shit here. Fucking kys.

>>1762133
I don't have a sister to kiss. :(

>>1762124
>UE5, AAA Cinematic, Next-Gen Console Platform.
how do we know this is a gacha? sounds like a single player for consoles.
>Modern Urban, True Romance Simulation
so a persona 5 clone?
I can't see them making another gacha, they would further cannibalize their current lineups, they don't seem to gain new players, just their current players jumping around their big 3 games between patches. This is mihoyo, i have zero expectations from them other than gaybait romance simulators

>>1762124
This isn't a thread for homo gachas, anon.

>>1762133
mihoyo makes Tears of Themis.
Why don't you think they want to make a "True Romance Simulation" game but for straight males?

>>1762200
Because women at Mihoyo dont want that to happen?

>>1762161
>I can't see them making another gacha
They are making more slops though. There is already that Honkai Pokekek/AC game.
>>1762200
Because like a lot of other anons here, I don't fuckin buy it. For all we know, this "True Romance Sims" is just ZZZ date system.
Plus look at the tags, do you really think they want to risk all of that shit for straight males? And who's to say it won't devolve into usual shippings later down the line?

>>1762124
>More urban open world but this time it's mihomo™ Edition
Man mihomo really wants every single genre of gacha to be theirs. 0% fucking chance of a "true romance simulation", it's just going to be more of their mixed toilet slop.

>>1762124
I don't know who they think is retarded enough to believe they'll actually be doing "true romance"

>>1761026
Don't follow AL, but how does this happen? How do the creators completely miss what's being done with their characters?
Honestly, I call bs, they knew what was happening, panicked and passed the buck.

>>1762405
The "it's the studio's fault, they apologitzed already" is complete cope. Yostar afterwards (AL anime flopped) formed a new studio (Yostar PIctures), and they continued doing yuri with "Azur Lane Bisoku Zenshin", so it's complete bullshit that they disavowed yuri. Azur Lane didn't start doing full blown ML until snowbreak transitioned towards ML around last year, because they were being pressured by CN players. They didn't want to jeopardize Azur Lane's revenue, because it might have hurt their true passion project Azur Promilia. They have never been a ML stuidio, and they obviously pander to ML begrudgingly. They only do it to generate revenue to continue funding azur promilia. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a tourist, or a cope tranny with sunk cost. They were always a yuri studio headed by a female CEO who loved CGDCT garbage. The proof is in the pudding, just look at anything pre 2019, and you will see all the yuri garbage they did, or watch the anime (which they had to greenlight). Studios do not get the creative freedom to do whatever they want with an IP, they need to discuss it with the IP holder, and get permission per episode, which means manjuu approved every fucking yuri bit in the anime. Let that sink in you cope yuri trannies. Not to mention, they were going to have male characters in Azur Promilia but they cucked out when they got caught by CN (likely by disgruntled ex-employees leaking assets). Just look at their churn in the company, employees constantly quitting, likely azur lane vets because they don't want to work on mixed toilets, and vice versa troons that want to make the next genshin, but manjuu wants to play both sides.

>>1762418
I've read this seriously until
>they were going to have male characters in Azur Promilia but they cucked out when they got caught by CN
Holy schizophrenia

>>1762430
One of the two males in that internal cosplay event Manjuu had (before the game was even revealed btw) had a 3D model. The one with the black hat.
And the other, the white haired one had sketches of him. People here used to jokingly call him "Gojo" kek.
NPCs wouldnt usually have that kind of effort put into them if there werent plan of making them playable.

>>1762435
>People here used to jokingly call him "Gojo" kek
That's just you, lmao

>>1762430
RETARD
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>>1762441
Nah go lock at the archives.

>>1762418
>>1762443
They were removed, right?

>>1762443
There's a big difference between
>The character got scrapped because they changed their direction
vs
>They were going to have male characters in Azur Promilia but they cucked out when they got caught by CN
The first one seems normal, but the second one sounds like a clear case of schizophrenia. You can't rely on voices in your head as facts, Schizo-kun.

>>1762447
Nah. I don't need to look at your weird obsession to keep bringing scrapped character.

>>1762450
They were at least quick enough to not have them after the first announcement so that's something.
Femc is probably a leftover from the original game design.

>>1762450
>i have under 80 iq
you can stop, don't embarass yourself further

>>1762453
>obsession
It's not that serious. Some were just mocking the game from ever thinking of trying to become another Genshin clone. Down to the male characters.

>>1762460
They don't even have it in the first announcement, bro. It's not like with the case of Ananta where they hide it somewhere.
>>1762461
Is that what the voice in your head told you? You should stop yourself from replying anymore, because it just shows how schizophrenic you are.

>>1762469
You do know things can change during development right. Things arent static. LingYi is a perfect example of that.

>>1762467
>It's not that serious. Some were just mocking the game from ever thinking of trying to become another Genshin clone. Down to the male characters.
I think it is, if you keep bringing scrapped character unprompted.

>>1762474
Bruh. I acknowledge that Azur Promilia started as a mixed toilet game. But they've scrapped(or repurpose, Idc) the male character before even their first trailer. Thinking that they scrapped their male character because CN caught them is just stupid.

>>1762480
>Thinking that they scrapped their male character because CN caught them is just stupid.
I agree on that. They were scared off when the chinks were getting pretty volatile around Genshin Sumeru and the Nahida NTR.

>>1762480
>started as a mixed toilet game.
and is still a mixed toilet game, because:
>Genshin spats
>Already censored characters
>FEMC

>>1762487
This is true. The game won't even have any pandering, it's going to be just like gfl2 or blue archive, with characters claiming that you are the most important person to them or whatever, and nothing ever happens between the mc and the characters.

>>1762484
I really don't understand why people are in denial about it. Game development takes 3-5 years on average for a large game, could take even longer like 10 years for games like GTA or Starfield. Most studios started their development for their games after seeing the massive revenue Genshin made during 2020. It's 2025, we're now seeing the fruits of all the studio's labor post-genshin era, all the current mixed toilets being released. No one could have predicted the ML movement in CN. Even Snowbreak, had Lingyi planned, and they dropped him for some reason. It's just business, I don't understand why people get emotional, they are simply corporate decisions. This is why something like Kaleido Rider impresses me, because they are going against the grain, and taking a risk.

>>1762492
LingYi was canned after the beta. SB would have never survived if they kept him in the game's beta version.
I have more appreciation personally for creators and producers going ML in their games as their first design decision during development and not something they did because of money.
Assuming they stay that way even if they do make a lot of money. Unlike that gook company.

>>1762494
There isn't a single jap, gook, or chink medium/big company that is like that. FGO, Genshin, Wuwa, Blue Archive, all those regularly cuck and fuck over their players if it'll earn them 5% more cash for that quarter.
I worked as a product development manager on a small company, and my CEO would drop support for clients that already bought a license to our product in order to get new clients in a heartbeat, if he didn't he would had gotten canned pretty quickly for not meeting the quarterly goals. I also know some people pretty high up on bigger companies (like mcafee, now trellix), and they do the same shit on the regular.
This is why I try to only play indie games that aren't gacha, like beyond citadel or dolls nest that can stick to their vision, for a live service game it's impossible. It's a question of when you are going to get fucked/cucked, not if. A single writer gone rouge, a new law from the government, a sequel that fucks shit up, gacha are at the risk of getting a "netfix reboot" at any time, only that the original isn't left alone, undisturbed, it gets retroactively deleted so that the new "netflix" version is left in it's place, and you can't go back to the original.

>>1762450
>but the second one sounds like a clear case of schizophrenia

bro, after the leak and 'riot'. They have to publicly announce the removal

>>1762609
>They have to publicly announce the removal
So? They're not removing it. They just confirming that it's a game with female only gachable character because someone spread misinformation.

I completely forgot AL had le epic based wholesomechungus female ceo who reads hentai. Yeah, it could never be ML. There could never have been any soul in it.

I notice there is a increase of anti loli sentiment in Japan (example : there is anti loli song got viral in otakusphere). I guess the day of loliconfags are getting darker

>>1762896
lol
lmao even

>>1762896
>there is anti loli song got viral in otakusphere
link?

>>1762905
He's probably talking about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci_zad39Uhw
but it's not an anti-lolicon song, it's just a song about a mesugaki who teases adults
but in the West, people took this song as anti-lolicon
So ironically it's a song that lolicon and anti lolicon like, because both see a different message.

>>1762923
Nope not shigure ui song, but much newer song :
https://youtu.be/8E8aWeY-pAc?feature=shared

>>1762896
Can't have them ruining private island owners' business

ngl. allowing the femc are great mistake. the femc ruin the comfiness (the character are not for (you) anymore), it attract femoid invader in gacha space, and it attract genuine yuri shipshit plague. so whoever that supports and neutral femc. I hope your hobby are forever ruined.

>>1762985
The men who're into yuri are worse imo. Total cuck death. Also, jfc SEAmonkey, put your posts through an LLM before posting.

>>1762418
>Azur Lane didn't start doing full blown ML until snowbreak transitioned towards ML around last year
Oath mechanic was introduced almost immediately
Akagi is a day1 character
You are retarded

>>1762985
>the femc ruin the comfiness (the character are not for (you) anymore), it attract femoid invader in gacha space, and it attract genuine yuri shipshit plague. so whoever that supports and neutral femc.
But you're still secretly going to play AP

Trickcal JP CBT is up bros.

>>1763297
>AP
Manjuu? yuri sympathizer dev?
Fuck Manjuu lmao

>>1762985
The biggest damage inflicted by femc's is the neutering of any proper romantic stuff with the heroines. Which is why I'm having some real big doubts about Ananta. Even with their shilled dating system, all of that will just result in a nothingburger and no actual romance will occur at the end. Man, everything was just fine back when they only had the male mc only when it was still called project mugen.

>>1763978
>spoiler
oh damn, i completely forgot about mugen. so it goes by ananta now?

>>1764015
It's been revealed as Ananta for months now, yes. And it suddenly now has female MC, too. Netease must have gotten one of those rabid chinese feminist devs or smth.

Was browsing bd2g, saw picrel and was confused. Does BA do raunchy stuff in general? I thought it was wholesome or something

>>1764261
Outside of the occasional sexy outfits like Toki and Sakurako's leotards or Rio's bodysuit, I've yet to see the fanservice progress past putting the girls in bunnysuits and swimsuits

>>1755992 (OP)
BrownDust II and Goddess of Victory: Nikke. They're the only two good gacha games, the only ones worth playing, all others suck.

>>1764519
Try reading through the thread before posting

>>1764519
>BrownDust II and Goddess of Victory: Nikke
>The thread recommends to not play this game
Try fucking reading through thread instead mindless yapping

>>1764519
This isn't the gacha drama thread bro...

>>1764519
what kind of delusion is this? ML purity aside, and ignoring all the cuckshit they do, they are objectively bad games, especially brown dust. Genshin and Wuwa are automatically better games if we're going to throw out ML standards.

I don't play echocalypse, but it looks like one of their new characters has caught the attention of the "other" crowd.
Ig they needed an easy target after Stellar Blade.

>>1764772
I tried it out a while ago, they have a femc, but from what I can see they are just another cuckdust, bunch of coomer crap. I didn't play enough to know if they have ML elements, but I'm tired of coomer games, unironically, just watch porn. I only care for ML, I'd rather play a tame game where everyone is for (You), than a coomer game where all the girls are whores for the NPCs like cuckdust. correct me if i'm wrong on echocalypse

>>1764783
From my limited experience with the gacha, the game doesnt have any playable males period but does have the choice of femc. But the main story doesnt have pandering in general. It may have yuribait but like I said I didnt progress much.
It does have stuff like rings and skins.
It's closer to AL than Brown Dust 2 though imo.

>>1764783
>I only care for ML, I'd rather play a tame game where everyone is for (You), than a coomer game where all the girls are whores for the NPCs like cuckdust

Just wanna say that I 100% agree with you and wanted to give you a (You). I'm close to dropping gachas all together and just playing DMM/Johren Jap slop because I'm tired of modern gachas all being made for cucks.

>>1764795
I dropped my gachas about two weeks ago. I think I might've spent around 300 bucks on it over the past year. I'd actually already bought the monthly subscription for ZZZ and decided it just wasn't worth the time investment. If you want to actually play an ML game, try persona, Xenoblade or unicorn overlord. Better than a gacha any day.

>>1764798
>Xenoblade
>ML
?

>>1764802
NTA, but I have the 1st one sitting here for me wii u, i haven't played it yet doesn't seem ML, but the second one is defintely ML (played it). Haven't played the 3rd, but the endgame card is Rex after he impregnated his 3 wives, very ML

>>1764804
Yeah but that's just one game out of three. 4 if you count the spinoff. You should have just mentioned Xenoblade 2 really.

Also you mentioned Persona but in 5 alone, there are scenes with the girls in the story that would make mlfags go mad kek.

>>1764804
This was so based it's hard to believe Nintendo approved it.

>>1764798
>unicorn overlord
The only bad thing about it is the usual "I can only ring one gal" per playthrough. In the sea of many females in the game. Fucking come on.

>>1764817
The fact that shit like this is even a thing in JRPG is pretty rare. Most of the time you're stuck with one girl in JRPGs.

>>1764815
It wasn't for free, the game is censored as shit compared to the second one, specially the MC. Also really pozzed, I wouldn't recommend it.

>>1764887
Nah they went back to the first game in terms of tone and characters.
1rst one is the best game anyways.

>https://x.com/Eversoul_JP/status/1934400582758146215
RIP Eversoul JP. I hope this doesn't have much effect on global but It looks like global is cutting costs as well.

>>1765016
Never saw a lot of attention towards that game but apparently it was turn-based like 99% of gachas.

>>1765016
Rip Eversoul JP. Kakao is a retarded publisher that never advertises (both global and JP). Global has been on ALT train for a while tho + Asia server's customer service is cut to English and KR only for a long while now. Think global is still fine for a while desu. Signs of reducing operation cost has been evident for a while.

>>1765028
It's a super comfy auto battler actually.
There's some multi team battle but the rest is kinda like the generic idle/AFKA sloppa
=====
Lowkey if they just opened a new server every week they'd prob still be floating revenue wise. No new whales will join Eversoul just to get rekt by sync 500+ f2ps lmao kekpow

Not being multi-server/sharding an idle gacha means no new whales after the 6 months mark since the gap is too big to even play at that point.

End of rant, apologies for spelling/grammar but wanted to get this out before I crash.

>Mixed Toilet
>ML
The fuck do these terms mean.

>>1764820
>Most of the time you're stuck with one girl in JRPGs.
I wouldn't have a problem with this if most of them just leaned super hard in that direction in the first place instead of baiting with multiple girls only to get a barely decent end with one girl.

>>1765078
I have no idea either, maybe I'm just too old to know these terms

>>1765078
some gen z lingo

>>1755992 (OP)
uma musume global in 10 days

>>1765078
>>1765163
>>1765176
Newfags have lost the art of lurking before posting. Very sad.

Soon

>>1765394
If they add that design to a 3D action game I'll play it day 1.

>>1765182
I'll just wait for Star Savior, because it has that Uma Musume training+turn-based gameplay. Good luck for your game, Horsebro.

>>1765412
Action taimanin?

>>1765417
>bside
Uh, no thanks bro.

>>1765394
cuckdust

>>1765417
I will play it if they stay true to posts and release two male MC options + not make it mixed toilet. Will just insta drop if they change shit up.

>>1765016
Get woke, Go broke

>>1764804
>game features a mudshark
Skip

>>1765511
what?

>>1765491
Why? Origin update?
>>1765494
I don't know about it, but at least I hope that MC(Me) is a legendary figure and everyone respect me(or hate me then like me). And most importantly the story will feature us.

>>1765511
>eversoul
>woke
wat? that's in JP too, what would woke be for Japan? accept more j**ts?

>>1765394
can't wait watch her threesome with gray and lathel

>>1765494
i'm interested, and cautiously optmisitic, but I've yet to see any hints of (You) pandering. Not interested in another platonic archive.

>>1765689
>what would woke be for Japan
Don't know what anon is on about with eversoul but big gaming companies from Japan loves woke shit
>body type a/b
>man jaw on women
>arcsys trooning out bridget
>censoring out pantyshots
>yoship having a western dev style melty when people were shitting on a garbage character voiced by a troon
>snoy censorship as a whole
>pokemon giving npcs ugly troon body shapes

>No big news on this week or probably a month
>Probably mega drought event on 2025-2026.
Atleast the manga/manhwa are more ML than ever before

>>1767232
>Atleast the manga/manhwa are more ML than ever before
Examples?

>>1755992 (OP)
There was Phantom of the Kill basically Fire Emblem, but Gumi... well, killed it in favor of a clicker but you tap on the screen, trying to take down almost screen-wide .png's and NFT

What's wrong with Brown Dust 2?

Persona phantom x coming out in a few. Cautiously hyped. Ik persona's really normie but I am curious how a live-service persona game could function.

>>1768246
It's great as a coomer game but that's all it is really.

>>1760530
Shill Crazy ones and Starseed to me.

ML game?

>>1768375
link?

>>1768375
What game is this?

>>1768375
Some trailers for this game show playable dudes, the original game that this is a sequel to was also mixed toilet (ran 2012-2022), so don't get your hopes up

>>1764772
>sexual deviants when the coom content isn't to their tastes
Turns out that all you need in order to make homosexuals into upstanding moral citizens is remind them that straight men exist.
You'd have to be a turbo homo to notice stupid shit like nipples working as garter belts to begin with.

>>1768246
there's no ML, it's just a coomer game with cuck references here and there. The playerbase doesn't even want ML, so it's not going to change anytime soon.

>>1768383
nta but looks like the mongoloid game or whatever it's called

>>1768528
>ML
Male lead?

>>1768642
Master Love. Basically a more extreme version of player pandering.

>>1768642
>Male lead?
yes, there is no male lead. You are nothing but a camera that gets to watch your waifus' relationships unfold with the other male characters in the game. You are welcome to jerk-off to them, they are pandering to the in-game male characters (dev self-inserts). I characterize this as cuckoldry, but some of the cope audience will pretend to self-insert as the males in-game. This is why I say, may aswell watch porn, you can pretend to be jamal, and tyrone pouding your dream wife.

>>1768809
holy based

If Star Savior is turn-based I'm gonna kms.

>>1769056
trust in bside lmao

>>1769056
Old news. It's turn-based.

>>1768809
Didn't people hate this scene? Was it in the final game?

>>1769056
Bruh it's been confirmed last month that it's a love child between HSR and Uma. Better keep yourself safe soon.

>>1769292
Yes it released on the game. And the game doubled its revenue compared to last month. that should tell you all you need to know about the game and its fanbase. Tentacle rape skins also just released, along with a skin for a literal whore succubus character (who gets energy from fucking men, and it's shown doing so in the story).

>>1769056
its still ML though so its worth considering

Her your next ml game

Damn I feel like I've seen the Uma shill in every thread.

>>1769508
It's pretty obvious /uma/fags are desperately trying to shill this game in multiple /vg/ generals. They're not even subtle about it.

>>1769508
>>1769511
Is it really ML? Far as I can tell it's more like an idol game. Are you the producer or something? I kept reading about at the height of it's popularity in Japan they had the yakuza going after artists that did lewds of the horse girls or something like that. Can only imagine it's in a league of safe horny all of it's own. They're kinda cute but I don't know chief.

>>1769512
>Far as I can tell it's more like an idol game
exactly
0 romance
its not ml that dudes been shilling it everywhere
its going to flop hard
any hype people had for it died years ago back when it came out and then japan killed it some more for some reason because the horse betting industry is a big deal over there and they didnt want otaku shitting it up or something
its wild we're seeing it at all but they're going to milk global for what they can and rugpull most likely
anyone that really wanted to play it already did

>>1769512
i think you are the trainer, so basically you train them and then they have bond stories
im not an expert but the girls are cute

>>1769512
>>1769546
Not ML at all. First of all, there isn't a single trainer, each girl has a different trainer, and there is a shitton of yuri between the girls, actually more than pandering.

>>1769520
tbf otaku are stigmatized in Japan. Just like ML player in China. the only country that provide safe place for autistic dedicated person (the same demographic with otaku and ML player) Is south korea (the only country that men goes victory against feminism menace)

But the thing i worry about south korea. Is that their men prefer goonerslop stuff (Brown dust 2 and Last origin). Rather than wholesome MC romance just like VN game (eversoul). That's why i hope star savior don't pull often coomerslop pandering. Leave this shit to other game

>>1769928
I don't particularly care about wholesome shit but I don't want the devs to put all the meat on the grill immediately. I'd rather it be a slowburn, the relationship of my harem developing little by little until an implied sex scene or something like that. All gacha stories are trash but you can make them digestible. IIRC Horizon Walker's main story hasn't progressed in months.

>>1769923
Can you give me some examples of good korean ML games? All I know is shit like blue archive, brown dust 2 (and their past games) and nikke, which aren't ML at all, just cuck and blue ball simulation.

>>1769963
Eversoul

>>1769965
>Eversoul
How is the fanservice? Are there lolis? My understanding is that lolis don't get much fanservice in korean games.
How about the pandering?

>>1769963
starsneed
eversoul
last origin
horizon walker

>>1769970
eversoul was lolimaxxing before, but lately there has been a cultural shift towards "big" and hags. They, and most other games have been releasing hags or big tit retconned lolis. The lolis are still there, but things look grim for the future.

>>1769923
>south korea (the only country that men goes victory against feminism menace)
What?

>>1769977
Thank you, seems like I'm going to stay clear then. Cool game though.

>>1769977
That alt you're complaining about is her original form anyway. She herself wants her body back because she can't exert her authority as a feared warlord when she's a midget made that way due to a betrayal ala Nobunaga/Mitsuhide that left her feeble and powerless.

>>1770023
yeah, i know, I play, I'm not complaining. I'm just telling him most games don't do the loli thing anymore, unless they are NFT games.

>>1769923
>(the only country that men goes victory against feminism menace)
not sure if serious or trolling desu

>>1769965
The intro kinda ruin my mood.

>>1769980
>>1770039
It is Anon. If Western feminism shenanigan already bad enough, Korean feminism are whole different beast. Google "Megalia". and their takes are so extreme that males third waves western feminism look like moderate. No wonder SK men are alerted this and began start culture war against "Megalia" extremist.

>>1770162
Jesus Christ my nigga, I just can't take you seriously when you're too fucking lazy to let gpt proofread your shit.

>>1770162
>At the end of 2016, almost half of Korean women in their twenties considered themselves feminist, and a quarter of them credited Megalia for turning them into feminists.
What the fuck.

>>1770449
>governments want to blame ML and pantsu for declining birthrates
if any government actually wants to fix low birthrates and declining marriages, outlaw feminism, label any feminist group as a terrorist organization

>>1760530
I did try Aether gazer some months ago and the story is really Mihoyo tier in terms of writing and development (as in you are a spectator and the character are the one that move the story not you), damn shame I liked the gameplay, and all “main” girl except one are horrendous they seem to try and save their game but holy shit that story is irredeemable

>>1770575
Aether Gazer is ok but after the bait n switch attempt they kind of went under the radar. Also as you mentioned it doesn't really stand out with its content, it just has coom skins. All the while they ignore the existence of the male characters that they released early on.
It changed to being self-published by Yongshi recently so I guess it's kinda their flagship game atm, we'll see what happens to them in the future.

>>1770577
It is and I did enjoy it, but man I hate when story is just boring fucking shit nobody cares about, while you are nowhere to be seen in said story, and yea they just threw the male character in the bin but the direction main chapter and event side is not changing at all, and it’s hard to care when they force the most bland main girl on you while all others girl are one time encounters.

>>1770577
Even the coom skins don't help much as they only highlight how painfully bland and uninspired the art style/direction is. I mean, it's better than what PGR and Honkai have to offer but that's a VERY low bar-especially when you bring up Azur Lane (y'know, the game Yongshi supposedly worked on?)
>>1770579
Yeah i swear AG took waay too much inspiration from PGR with the whole jumping across main characters every month and "muh factionz and loooore." I still think to this day PGR and Arknots being successful was the main reason Yongshi added males to their game in the first place.

>>1770126
How so?

>>1770689
It immediately shows you the big baddies as the main objective, giving you that sense of urgency. Pretty sure there was an option to refuse, i wonder what will happen if i chose that.

>>1770577
>we'll see what happens to them in the future.
Yeah i'm willing to see the changes they're going to make after they allegedly went for snowbreak route. Give them like one year, if they haven't changed shit then it's not even worth a space on the list.

>>1756322
just started today
seems like a solid game

>>1770761
dev admitted in an interview that the main story was the weak point. I wouldn't worry about it too much, the event and love stories are much better.

>>1771251
Nah, something like grand plotline has always been a flaw for many harem stories(beside turbobeta mc). Post-game stuff is better most of the time.
>love stories
I don't get why it isn't talked more if it's the selling point of the game like i haven't seen any CG for this bad/good ending.

>>1771251
It's a good weak point to have. Main story is a trap with these kinds of games. You'll inevitably get baited into writing the MC as some genius gigachad or the opposite and he's not doing anything and the story has to bend over backwards to somehow be about him when his special power is "you play the game". Eversoul MC is handled relatively well so I wouldn't want to see them ruin that chasing main narrative brownie points that don't actually improve the game.

Any of you tried silver and blood? Is the protagonist male?

>>1773976
There's males in this shit so no.

>>1773978
you are an incel

>>1773991
>i-incel
Go back to your Joseimuke thread sis.

>>1773978
So does persona

>>1774012
The premise of the thread is that there must not be playable males and ideally no femc as well. I guess being on topic is too hard for some.

Some exception could be made if the males are irrelevant while only waifus shine but then you have to deal with drawing gacha with males mixed in the pool.
It would be fine if there are gacha with segregated gender pool but we all know that won't happen because males don't sell when competiting with waifus.

>>1774015
>I guess being on topic is too hard for some.
The topic is gacha for straight men. Persona is a series for straight men last time i checked.

>>1774015
Maybe you should read the literal second post retard

>>1774054
Not really. Persona also appeals to fujos. There's a reason Atlus tried to pander to Akechi fujos in P5 Royal. Also it's not a mobile game series in general so off topic.
>>1774056
Yeah? And the garbage that guy was trying to shill has playable dudes outside of the MC. So it should be disqualified period.

>>1774065
Stop poisoning the well turbofaggot, imagine unironically claiming a self insert power fantasy where you date and romance women is is for fujos because of some bait. Kill yourself.

>>1774067
You clearly havent refuted what I said I see.
And with how Atlus' output has been recently (Re Fantasio having no romance period), I would be worried about P6 if I cared enough about Persona kek.

>>1774071
There's nothing to refute, i don't care about your arbritrary purity spiral.

>>1774079
>purity spiral
Has nothing to do with what I said. Still evading I see.

P5X has males in the gacha, not all girls are dateable, and I think it suffers from the same problem P5 does where your romances don't affect the story.

The thing about the definition by the OP (which is pretty much a ML definition) is that you either allow playable males or you don't, there's no in-between. And the entire point about the no playable males part is to not allow any room for the devs to betray their playerbase later and start pandering to women. So if it has playable males except the male MC then it doesn't count, doesn't matter if it's Horizon Walker or P5X. There isn't anything wrong with recommend those two for someone who's looking for some gacha romance, after all they're still better than 90% of mixed toilet trash, but they by definition are not ML.

>>1774085
You are a man, you only romance women. Kill yourself.
>>1774086
>a game where all women want your dick and you canonically fuck them isn't ML
Nothing is ML then, might as well delete this thread.

Are all Atluskeks like this?

>>1774088
It's not, P5X isn't considered ML in China either for those reasons. Again, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with recommending P5X here, after all players have different tastes and different degrees of tolerance. But ML cannot allow playable males outside MC, because the movement was created in the first place to force developers to pander to straight men only.

>>1774098
>P5X isn't considered ML in China either for those reasons
>But ML cannot allow playable males outside MC
Chinks consider WuWa ML. You have no idea about the subject, now kill yourself.

>>1774100
Calling Wuwa ML was just an attempt by Kuro to take over the definition. No one but delusional Wuwa players call it that. There's zero romance in Wuwa, it's just teasing and that's it. Even Blue Archive has more romance.

>>1774100
Only idiots who never cared about ML were lured by the "pandering" in mixed toilet gachas. Mihoyo knows that to weaken this internet mouvement, they only need to temporarily pander to them. The best move is to ignore them.

>>1773976
how's the romance

>>1774104
>>1774105
Snowbreakfags and Wuwafags are ML allies in China. Now kill yourself.

>>1774110
Falseflag.

>>1774115
Ask /snowg/, then kill yourself.

>>1774110
Then the chinese community has fallen.

>>1774110
Either falseflag or bait. At any rate whenever Snowbreak gets brought up it's always a schizo from either side. Put a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger, for everyone's sake.

>>1774065
Alright faggot, let's use the OP's standards.
>no FMC
Check
>no playable males except (You)
Check. MC is the only playable character.
>hetero relationship ONLY
Check.

>>1774141
Not very honest aren't you

>>1774147
Idk wtf this is. I was talking about persona.

>>1774198
You didn't specify.

>>1774118
Huh? I checked multiple snowg threads and they never talk about wuwa though.

>>1774204
Hmmm mb ig. My point is: the new persona gacha fits the thread.

>>1774141
Damn, someone got absolutely assraped.

Is there any ML gacha where the characters doesn't fall for you in an instant like in wuwa or snowbreak?
As someone who used to put effort getting character routes in VN, it feels really jarring and unearned, making me feel they have ulterior motive and hard to get invested in them.

>>1774269
Sadly no but i heard there's one bodyguard-type character in horizon walker with slow burn romance, maybe someone can fill in.
Azur lane botes kinda start with being indifferent towards you but not so much today.

>>1774226
>multiple snowg threads and they never talk about wuwa
Yeah, that's the point. It's just falseflag by poowa players.
>Is there any ML gacha where the characters doesn't fall for you in an instant like in wuwa or snowbreak?
DMM/Fanza gachas. Now you have to deal with getting milked hard by nip's usual tactics of
>release characters
>some characters get popular
>devs proceeds to milk them by making several alts/festive alts as paywalling character development
Good luck.
>it feels really jarring and unearned, making me feel they have ulterior motive and hard to get invested in them.
??? No offense but you might as well go back to playing VNs if you want to play the long game of "invest time and reading effort in getting into woman's pants".

>>1774269
Eversoul or Crazy Ones

>>1774086
>P5X has males in the gacha
>not all girls are dateable
>it suffers from the same problem as P5 does where your romances don't affect the story
Imagine a P5 gacha that goes down the Snowbreak Route where romances are canon to the story, but with Joker as the MC and only male playable, haha...
I mean, damn, P5X not only slapped Joker with a humiliation ritual in its Opening scene, they made him a unit who's not future proof, too. Do the chink devs hate him or something?

info about this game Seal of Fate

>>1774363
app icon looks like AI art

>>1774363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaAoDw24hrQ

looks like slop to me

>>1774138
>>1774226
Because you are tourists that never were /snowg/ regulars and should kill yourselves. SB and Wuwa in china are ML allies, Kuro is also not part of the anti ML Shanghai cartel.

>>1774360
There's no future proof in any gacha. ESPECIALLY not for early characters. Most gacha go through huge changes in the first year making the vast majority of character released very early obsolete. Unless they get later buffed.

>>1774360
>token male is useless
sounds based

>>1774374
yeah, you are neither a snogger nor a wugger

>>1774390
>no argument
Livesteam your suicide well poisoning troon. Go search their archives for Shangai cartel and Kuro.

>>1774363
looks fun

>>1774374
>Ask snowg.
>No wuwa discussion in snowg's current or archived threads.
>I'm talking about china!
Bro just admit that you're not a snowg or wuwa regular yourself.

Isn't ML comes from Fate? Why use a term from the cucked game?

>>1774610
it's convenient

>>1774241
It doesn't.

>>1774241
True.

>>1774241
>male banner
I think that counts as a playable male anon.

>>1774241
There are few homos but the romance is definetly cut above your usual gacha.

>>1774610
fate is a cuck game

>>1774671
Not really, you only play as the protagonist.

>>1774269
It can't, and never will for gachas. People need to understand this, gachas revolve around selling the immediate character, so the story, or powercreep is there to sell them for the patch cycle. There will never be a slow burn. That only works with full paid games because they aren't selling characters.

>>1774742
disingenuous retard

>>1774742
I'm not wasting money only to get spooked by a homo. Fuck off.

>>1775110
It could work, Carthetiya did it to some extent.
Introduce character as NPC first, then slowly make her become closer to the MC as the story goes, then release her gacha. By that point people who have done with her story already have attachment to that character and want to roll.

>>1775144
Carthetiya intro was a bunch of nothing, you see her dancing on water and that's literally it and it took one story patch to get close to her.

>>1775146
Yeah sure, Cartwheel execution was sloppy, but the approach works, when you said it can't happen. We just need a game that can pull it off consistently.

>>1774639
>type two letters as opposed to other words
Confirmed. Still better to use harem tho

>
but of course *they* will find their way here

>>1775175
Stop eating rocks and eat your veggies, Eatchel. You promised.

>>1775110
>selling the immediate character
Therein lies the problem. X character route can work in a gacha without dozens of casts(see LaDS).
BA for example they understand the problem and went with X group/faction routes instead because adding a route for each and every character is going to be a gargantuan task.
SB unfortunately was late to the party so the game doesn't revolve around it.

>>1775157
But it's impossible to do it for every character, because they need to sell 1 or 2 new characters per patch. They can MAYBE do 2 per year. FGO kinda does it but that's because they have 1 event every 6 weeks, and one story chapter every 18 months, but even then they only do one main heroine per event/story chapter.

I was gonna start playing Blue Archive after upgrading my phone

why is it so low on this list?
>>1755997

Isn't it a fanservice game?

>>1777721
no actual romance, ambiguous mc, hints of yuribait
>fanservice
none of the things in fanart actually happen in the game though looking at them is unironically the best way to "enjoy" blue archive.

>>1777733
>ambiguous mc
didn't the anime reveal the mc?

>>1777721
Because author of this list is retarded

>>1777769
No the devs official stance when it comes to the game is that sensei can be whatever the players wants sensei to be. I also remember them alluding that all media projects like the anime and manga are just separate interpretations of sensei from the game canon.

>>1777816
don't know when to quit aren't you manjuuschizo

>>1777733
MAN thats gay, after all I heard that it was a "uohhh based cunny game that needs to be gatekept!1!"

Thanks anyway

I don't know but I tolerate Blue Archive because they don't pander to straight male. Unlike Azur Lane and Nikke hypocritally pandering to straight male the conveniently betray because Muh "incel"

do you niggas actually play the listed games or is this the shitposting general? lmao

>>1777866
Played some and quitted some. Right now i'm just waiting for future releases while doing my h-game backlogs.

>>1777866
playing games? we can do that?

>>1760530
RE-Fixed tier list:

(S)tandard
>Crazy Ones
>E.T.E Chronicle
>Eversoul
>Girl Wars
>Haze Reverb
>How To Raise A Harem
>Mirren: Star Legends
>Snowbreak: Containment Zone
>STARSEED: Asnia Trigger
>Horizon Walker

(A)cceptable
>Lost Sword (One male character and two hyper used goods)
>Azur Lane (Search for Mikhail in the archive o go look the drama thread)

(D)isputed
>Persona 5: The Phantom X (playable males, but almost every girl is romanceable, also the game doesn't punish you por having a harem like other Persona games)
>Echocalypse (SELECTABLE MC GENDER)
>Girls' Frontline (SELECTABLE MC GENDER and Dier "repairing" the internals of your dolls)
>Outerplane

(C)ope
>Cat Fantasy (SELECTABLE mc and some hard ships in-game)
>Blue Archive (tranny mc and some yuri-baiting in-game)
>Brown Dust 2 (lol lmao)
>Goddess of Victory: NIKKE (HARD yuri shipping in the last patches, bisexual characters and the LSKK)
>Aether Gazer (We have to hide male characters in the release trailer but we put them in the final release, selectable mc gender and only like 4 characters of the entire cast have something romantic with the MC)


TBD
>Anchor Panic (A)
>Azur Promilia (C)
>Book of Yog (?)
>Chasing Kaleido RIDER (S)
>Heaven Hells (?)
>Project C (?)
>Project RX (?)
>Project VK (?)
>Project Witches (?)
>Star Savior (S)
>Stella Sora (C)
>Trickcal: RE:VIVE/Chibi Go! (S)
>Dead/Maintenance mode
>Destiny Child (C)
>Last Origin (S)
>Magicami (S)
>Soul Tide (?)

>>1760530
This is still the correct list. Though I think P5X should be in A and so is Echocalypse.

>>1778182
>mikhail
it's joever for manjuu

>>1778182
>Magicami still at (S)
Bro that's cope tier at best with literal sex scenes with animals and other dudes and the girls being literal sluts.

>>1778182
>Mikhail in the archive o go look the drama thread
>suicidal npc retard that gets himself and fate/alter slavs killed after the player character tells him not to do the retarded suicidal thing
sorry bro your raymond is in another castle
thats like the 2nd or 3rd time you've tried poisoning the well for azur lane
whats the lore with your hate stubby for shipgirl game?

>>1778922
If its the guy I think his baits dont work well and anons bully the fuck out of him on /alg/

>>1778922
This is why i don't want time travel/alternate timeline/pov 2deep4u shit in my gacha, it always ends up dividing the community.

>>1778392
>literal sex scenes with animals
Hot. Wasn't it shutdown? Any way I can play it?

>>1778922
>chinese anal retentive hardliner ML players who scrutinize every minor detail: nothing
>shitposting anon on the mongolian goat breeding bbs: GUYS THIS DEAD NPC IS FUCK YOUR BOTES LOLOLOL

>>1779139
JP has released the Offline version. Dunno when someone will make EN patch.

>>1778182
ngl. this is a cope measure against yurifag and shipshitter (the real threat).

>>1778182
>hyper used goods
>(A)cceptable
>SELECTABLE MC GENDER
>(D)isputed
?

>>1779533
Would you rather have romance or platonic transbians?

How would you write the experienced i.e. a widow or ex prostitute/slave backstory in a haremge? Do you think a character like this is allowed at all?
Pic unrelated

>>1779621
I would rather not have any used goods
Also
>platonic
Depends on the game

>>1779660
A prostitute hell no, I don't even think google/apple would allow that. A slave can be done, you just have to specify they didn't get sexually abused (both because players wouldn't want a character like that, and again because google/apple).
A widow can be done too, maybe say that they didn't love their husband and it was a political marriage or something, and have her say, many times, that she is finally happy with you or something along those lines.
No one wants a character than can betray you at any point for other man, even in sengoku rance when you rape the kunoichi assassin so good she swears loyalty to you forever (and she makes good on that pact).

>>1779660
>prostitute character
that's pure cuckery, why would anyone want that? unless it's some kind of poetic epic from 100 A.D. in rome. keep it out of my gaems

>>1778182
>aether gazer
>cope
it's been deboonked, Aether Gazer is ML now, administrator is canonically male, and they don't add males anymore. all females are for (You) especially verthandi

>>1781065
>verthandi
Isnt that girl the main heroine? kek.
That's the bare minimum. And I bet it's the kind of gacha where most of the girls either dont know or care about MC, or consider him as a friend/boss at best with only a few having feelings for the MC.

>>1781107
>speculating
that's just low IQ, AG is ML, stick to the facts

>>1781110
I'm speculating because I'm not about to install a whole game just to find out. I'm probably still right on most girls being friendly/platonic with (You) part though. This is the kind of game that tried having playables males at the end of the day.

>>1781065
as far I remember this character is shipbait with one male no? I think it was called Annubis

>>1781126 (me)
YEAH I remember right fucking faggot now fuck off, go shill your shit somewhere else

>>1780632
So in short it's kinda okay as long as they swear loyalty to (You)? Not that i'm into used goods but 2d virgins who act assertive and know-it-all are just as off-putting, unless they turn all red in the end of course.
On that topic, what about married couple NPCs that act as your wingman(like heroine's parents)? Feel like they make for a good romance tutor.

>>1781126
>stuck in the past
>ignoring all the modern ML mechanics
you're hung up on Lingyi xis, not sure what your agenda is, but you need to move on, games change directions when troons get fired. most developers are not pandering to trannies anymore.

>>1778182
Why is outerplane disputed? Throw in wuwa and zzz too by your standards. If you're not going to attempt to be objective.

>>1781065
Aether Gazer is a failed mixed toilet that switched to ML pandering to survive. I don't want to encourage companies to use me as a backup option just because their plan to expand to wider audiences failed, so I will not play it.

>>1781148
That would be most excellent, specially if they have a small child like Hughes from FMA or something (only don't kill them early on to rise the stakes). Now that I think about it, Utawarerumono did the same thing.

>>1781161
It's still too early to say as they haven't removed any conflicting old content and the devs aren't as communicative to share their future plans.

>>1781161
Cool, can I roll get spooked by a male? Did they rewrite the entirety of the early game to support the new ML direction? What assurances do I have that they are not going to change direction again and introduce, say, yuri? They already betrayed their original players once.
See, you can wash shit out of a place all you want, people are still going to choose to eat on a plate that never had shit on it.

>>1781209
this is like saying: will nuclear war end the human race? yeah, probably, but for now we will live. enjoy the current ML status of any games, sure some day they will probably hire some feminsts or trannies that will sabotage the companies, but for now, let's enjoy what they have. When they go full troon, I will be the first to wage jihad on xhem.

>>1781225
So you are basically telling me and everyone else in this thread to found the next round of cucking and shipping by supporting aether gazer, kinda like giving money to mihoyo games.
No thank you. You can keep support it like the good cuck you are, I will keep playing games from companies that have not even once betrayed their players and actively cull any shipping discussion.

>>1781225
you act like there arent options or that im starved for ML content lol
there are several games that were always ML and hold steady
better to go with those
good luck with your traitors and flip floppers hopefully they wont turn and flip flop on you as well

>>1781161
So no rebuttal? I wonder how many characters are shipshit, but I dont care like this anon says >>1781256 there are a lot of ML games to care

YURI WON YOU LOST

>>1778182
Why no Wuwa or PGR even in low tiers?

>>1781560
Because they're "mixed toilets"? You might as well ask for Genshart at this rate. Same shit.

>>1781563
>Persona 5: The Phantom X
>Aether Gazer

>>1781568
Eh I didnt make this shitty list. If people were followong the requirements in OP, those games shouldnt have been listed either.

>>1781560
>WuWajeet spammer is here
Please go back to the drama thread

>>1781618
Mindbroken

A dev appeared in the Kaleidorider discord and confirmed that they indeed removed the female mc.

>>1782071
Was there an option for that?

>>1782083
no but a dataminer found a model of her in the game's files so some people thought she might still have been in the game.

>>1782071
pics or didn't happen

>>1781225
I man for having played the AE, the story is rancid dogshit you are literally stuck with the shittiest "main" girl and and all the girl you meet treat you as a boss nothing more. Now I don't want them to slobber over my cock from the get go, but at least put in the work.

>>1782093

>>1782071
Kaleidorider looks like a very basic game but if they're actually pandering to men then I'll check it out.

>>1782093
Absolutely based get that game on the list, and someone make a real not-vandalized list to go with it

>>1782106
Would be nice if they make feMC dateable instead of deleting her. Adding selfcest/incest tag. But I guess that would be too far unless it's R18 stuff and even that is a niche within a niche.

>>1782115
retard-kun that is old news, because we already knew they removed the FEMC months ago and that is why Kaleido >>1778182 is on the (S) tier

>>1782403
Fuck off, if you want a femc go play Azur Pagmilia paggie

>>1782403
>>1782462
I believe he was talking about turning the FeMC rollable instead of having her in the protagonist role, which they probably did. I'll check the game since they know what they're doing but the turn-based combat doesn't look interesting.

>>1774363
That's alot of ai art.

>>1782642
Doubt that, she shared a similar design choice as the sole male MC.

>>1783378
more gachas need sibling incest

>>1783378
This is far more detailed than just concept art. They'd rendered her out and actually put her in the project before scrapping it. Kinda disappointing. Why do they think women would be a major demographic for their waifu collecting game?

>>1784217
>Why do they think women would be a major demographic for their waifu collecting game?
It's working for Azur Promilia.

>>1784220
I don't see how.

>>1784220
It's disrespectful to the audience is what it is

>>1784217
If you put a woman on screen as the MC, you can't have pandering, because certain governments don't like it and you get your game reported and censored.
You can only do pandering if it's straight.

>>1784252
Wtf are you talking about? You can absolutely have pandering with female protags. Otome games are just that.
My question is, why would they consider a female protag if the gacha is composed of sexy (in a specifically male-gaze way) females only?
Women aren't attracted to that shit even if they're lesbians. It just reeks of retarded planning and corpo checklists. This game lacks a vision and I don't trust it'll have a smooth launch.

>>1784349
>You can absolutely have pandering with female protags
Show me an example of a chinese gacha doing so, and I mean actual pandering, not whatever shit like blue archive do (and that one is korean to boot).

>>1784354
Lads. The highest grossing gacha ever. What are you even arguing for here? You WANT female mcs for games that are clearly made with a male audience in mind?

>>1784354
PGR has kisses and wedding dresses, maybe because it's not really popular so CCP doesn't care

>>1755992 (OP)
Please play Tokyo 7th Sisters

>>1763978
Hard disagree, that's only second biggest at most. The biggest damage is how the characters can no longer use gender specific terms of affection to refer to (You). Like onii-chan or onii-sama. Even only feMC as an option is better than letting people choose.

>>1784368
Sorry my bad for assuming you aren't a retard. I obviously meant when the units are female, so no same sex.
Also, for all the meme chart says lads is at the top, NOT ONE TIME has either google or apple put that game anywhere near the top 5 at the end of year celebrations of the games with most revenue, how interesting huh, why do you reckon that's it? Are google and apple wrong, or the meme chart?
>>1784582
But it doesn't has the MC as a character on screen, unlike snowbreak or horizon walker

>Ctrl-F Idoly Pride
>0 results
This thread sucks.

>>1755997
Why is Memento Mori in D? The player character is clearly male.

>>1784592
>Barely sentient organism.

>>1784596
That game got nice songs.

>>1784596
no romance.

>>1784596
>Idoly Pride
I never heard about it, for what I can see it seems to be (S) tier

>>1784596
>idol trash
>>/jp/

>>1784585
Sorry anon but my JP is barely good enough to jerk off to h-asmr.

>>1778182
Which ones of these is action type where you don't have to swap characters inbattle? I hate that fucking mechanic desu.

>>1784771
E.T.E has AI controlled teammates but you can also swap mid battle. I quit because navigating the UI in that game is slow as hell, probably due to walkable lobby.

>>1784596
Idoly Pride is weird. It has all the things you need for it to be (S) but it's not. Some of the idols are obviously in love with the producer but he won't respond to anything since he's in love with the dead idol and he can't be in a relationship with an active idol due to the nature of their work.

>>1784819
>weird
Weird way of saying 'Japanese'.

>>1784819
Basically the shit I'm fed up with.

>>1768246
Camera-man simulator with girls who wont shut up about their actual boyfriends

Put Limbus Company into Cope category. They try to play it off but whenver you press someone who isnt ironic troll on shit like gender ratio and shipping they'l shriek and bawl that girls are definitely only for (you) and that dudes are totally just bros

>>1784882
Nah that's retarded limbus shouldn't even be considered for anything in first place.

>>1784882
>i want to put that game into straight male game/harem romance game list
>limbus (ew)
go back and find a better gacha than limbus anon

After the shitshow on EN Umamusume Twitter about character relationship. It really think that releasing gachage on global was a big mistake.

>>1785117
Even if Kaleidorider and Star Savior got global release. The game will get invaded by yuritards and shippingfag.

>>1785117
Can you post what happened? I want to laugh.

>>1785126
summary of what happened:
https://x.com/BrandonRStreams/status/1942982880466255923?t=JfCGZPor8D0Kh7RoFrNxQA&s=19

>>1784882
Threadshitter or srs?
Why would a game with a troon mc and genuine homosexuality even be considered?

>>1782071
There are rumors that the lead writer (now ex-writer) of Snowbreak left Seasun some month ago to go to Tencent and become the writer of Kaleidorider

>>1785332
Uhh. what's the implication about that? Does that mean Kaleidorider dev have fewer harem romance thing than a snowbreak?

>>1785395
The writer that Tencent bought off did a decent job with both romance and more standard stories so it doesn't really tell us much by itself but them getting one of snowbreak's main writer gives me more hope than not for kaleido.

>>1778182
ok but 1. are any of these not dogshit kusoge
2. why are there so many schizos and spergs in this thread, holy autism

>>1785535
what do you define as kusoge? you are not getting a wuwa like game with actual pandering if that's what you are asking

>>1785535
>why are there so many schizos and spergs in this thread, holy autism
Bro don't talk about yourself like this. You should learn to love yourself more...

Kaleidorider might apparently be banning asking for female MC/yuri

>>1787990
Good.

>>1787990
Based. Now I'm looking forward to this as much as Star Savior.

>>1787990
>devs admitted to deleting femc
>pls bring back femc
why do trannies be like this? go play azur promilia

>>1788408
? qrd?

>>1787990
Who are these people?

>>1788467

Star Savior announced a closed beta pre-launch stream on July 22

>>1788468
Is it for KR only?

>>1788499
Well yeah, the beta's KR only so the stream is KR only too.

>>1784637
The romance is just rarity gated.

>>1788468
I just wanna see what the gameplay looks like

>>1788554
how so?

>>1788778
Episodes of their bond stories are locked behind rarity upgrades. Memento Mori is an idle game, so you will need a lot of dupes if you wanna read up their full stories.

>>1788418
Azur promilia has a female MC

>>1788791
that has nothing to do with kaleidorider, are you tripping?

>>1788778
Lines indicating them getting closer to you are gated by rarity, up to LR.

>>1788789
It's not stories (their memories) that are gated by rarity.

>>1764772
>>1764783
>>1764795
Why are you calling it cuckdust? What's cucked about it?
I was thinking about getting into echocalypse. Can you tell me more about it?

>>1789901
the fact that at first, there was no mc so every female had her own love interest. THEN, since the sales of the game were shit, the devs introduced an mc to self insert... only that of course every girl already is shipped. so by default you are a mega cuck. then, they had the genious idea of making a non-canon mode where the girls fawn over you... only that you have to pay money for it, and they still drool for their love interest in the story (which the devs keep doing btw), so now you can pay real world money to be a double cuck.
not to leave a job half done, several of the girls are literal prostitutes, succubus, or plain old sluts. but there devs want to earn first place, so they introduced skins which have goblin rape or tentacle rape, so you can be a pay pig and triple cuck if you so desire, truly next generation.
>>1769401

>>1789901
Cuckdust refers to Brown Dust 2. Not Echocalypse

>>1789939
So it's heavy on the Yuri action? Sounds great. How far do they go with eachother. I checked some of the "interactions" on YouTube and they look too rapey for my tastes. But if it has hot lesbian sex I might overlook it.
>>1789955
I know, but they were being compared

>>1790026
it has almost no lesbian content on it.

>>1790206
>almost no lesbian content
lmao

>>1790446
Can you show me three explicit examples?

>>1756230
They ALWAYS shit about nikke for all the wrong reasons while adding outright lies to their "arguments". Why is this?

More than a year of these threads and the full list is still
>nikke
>snowbreak
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>the rest
Too bad nikke turns into just overall shit the more you play it and snowbreak main story is just so boring, is not even funny.

>>1790026
it's the female characters fawning over the male characters, while you watch. If that's your sort of thing go for it, start a cuck general, actually i think the /trash/ board has those

>>1790521
>nikke
lol
lmao

>>1790534
She is dead bro

>>1790535
I like how dorothy spends more time thinking about a dead girl than commander, very ML friendly.

>>1790568
She is fucked in the head. Never stick your dick in crazy, she also said multiple times she hates (You). You are also grabbing the low hanging fruit for some reason, plenty of other stuff in nikke where you can project your life, starting by the fact that all nikkes had other commanders before (You), so the game is as cucked as you want it to be, so a lot for you
>I like how dorothy spends more time thinking about a dead girl than commander
I bet you do, you also love hearing your gf talk about other dudes, that's why you come here to spout your projection.
Also, reminder that the game made a collab with a fat fisherman and the community LOVED it for some reason.

>>1790533
I thought the girls were paired with eachother? Does Echocalypse also have hetero pairings?

>>1790575
Why do nikkeks always do this feminine way of arguing whenever people call it a cuckge? You wanna start calling anon insecure and an incel too?

>>1790664
Nikke has an awful lot of female fans for some reason. Maybe it's because they focus more on story/lore than they could have on fanservice, but I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of female players came from Genshin

>>1790831
they have a consistent cycle of cucking the shikikan for most patches, then having muh deep story with yuri overtones for the major canon story patches, then throwing a bone to desperate incels during summer patches of a few token bikinis, and mild (You) pandering. They have their audience numbered, cucks will fund the game, then they will pander to the mentally ill crowd for the rest of the year. They learned mihomo's model of bait and switch, pander to everyone while treating the battered wife base like shit, and throw them red meat every now and then.

>>1790664
Antinikkers have this way of arguing called lying, which is weird because, again, there ARE stuff to criticize about nikke, but projecting your cuck fetish will never be a valid argument
>>1790664
I thought it was because of the good looking NPCs
>having a good story is le bad
Grim. Specially considering the story is barely passable even cringe at times, it does it's job but it's not that good, specially the longer you play.

Every gacha games suffers from bad story. If they have decent story at the start, trust that it will deteriorate as time passes.
And you don't play gacha for good story. The premise of gacha is what it offers and for you to gamble the chance of getting it.

>y-you are not supposed to...
I do

>>1791724
yep

>>1791724
Live service games are usually slop (competitive games being the exception).
Gacha games are the literal lowest hanging fruit of slop games out there. As long as you're aware it's slop and don't parade around (you)r specifc gacha as high tier literature instead of anime slop, you should be alright. Nikke, BA, Limbus, all of hoyoverse, they're all slop.

Now that the dust have settled, which one is THE gacha

Star Savior soon™

>>1792520
>studio bside
>countershyte
yeah no

>>1792214
Can't beat the classics.

>>1792520

>>1792520
>>1792666
>>1793059
Is there anyone that trusts these devs? Like, it's just a question of time on how badly they are going to fuck up, if not from day one of the game.

i do.

>>1793126
Who cares? I'll try it anyway then when they actually do some real billshit then that's when I'll decide if I'll drop it or not.

>>1793126
pvp will likely filter many, i usually ignore pvp in 95% of games i play, so it doesn't bother me

>>1793126
>trusting a dev who had to rollback major updates to their game
I'll try the game out because they usually have characters with nice feet but I'm expecting some major fuck ups down the road desu.

has anyone played Run! Goddess? I don't know if this is the appropriate place to talk about it or not. It doesnt seem like its very widely discussed at all

>>1794438
>AIslop
No, this isn't the place.

>>1794438
Don't touch AI slop bro, gotta have some self respect.

>>1794531
>gotta have some self respect
I kek'd.

>>1794551
low self respect: gacha shit
negative self respect: overpriced AI gacha shit
Trust the plan

>>1794531
>Don't touch AI slop bro, gotta have some self respect.
Literally most anons in this thread play and love Nikke