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GDC PART 2
(I definitely did NOT make this same thread twice without entering a subject, that level of incompetence would simply be unfeasible.)
I'm snapping my phone in half
I can't take this shitty nigger game any more
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>500 stones without Shenron
>Suddenly I got one copy per multi, back to back
The same thing happened to me when I summoned for AGL Uselessly last year. Can't complaint, I had an amazing luck with both banners, such is the life of a GT enjoyer like me
>>1793188i think this 50 ticket summon was only meant for people who have every unit with atleast 2 dupes, i was missing some dupes on agl ssj3 goku so i did the 10 ticket summons on gogetas banner instead. (and i got 2 gohans but hes mid)
>>1793188>>1793191considering we have i think around 30 extra tickets from the panel missions you'll get maybe 3 more multis to test your luck on, and you'll have the chance to atleast get real units as well
I'm about to pity coin a Gogeta dupe you can't stop me
>>1793191I just used it on omega because I have every unit on that banner
oh, my bad, i though you were waiting for page 9, apologies. Just one last reminder that the 4cc summer cup is starting for us this saturday against our main rivals, here is the schedule for the group stage
>>1790555 and our roster for this time around
>>1785994 thanks for the support
500 pity coins - am I grabbing Omega or Gogeta
>>1793201>I REMAIN... NUMBER 1!Hasn't been number 1 since gdc started KEK
That's it. I'm pulling out my base Cabba folder.
https://x.com/Z_SeRT56/status/1947977566478073889
They miiight be right
Too many same frames
One thing that disappoints me is the lack of creativity in characters lines. How many times do I need Goku to tell me that he wonโt forgive you or Gogeta repeating the same canned Iโm neither Goku or Vegeta line?
Why is Goku so arrogant as to believe his forgiveness is even sought by his foe? Itโs even stranger when he does it to near mindless monsters like Hirudegarn.
I also just have to roll my eyes whenever Vegeta blathers on and on about Saiyan pride and the like. At this point heโs basically an earthling. He doesnโt even have a tail. The other saiyans would probably call him mutant behind his back.
>Got Gogeta on the 50 tickets single
>Wasted 20 tickets on 2 multies in the omega banner and no Pan
>Wasted 100 stones on the omega banner and no Pan
And back to 5 stones AGAIN, just please give me Pan, dont wanna give me omega don't do it I'll coin him later BUT I WONT BE ABLE TO COIN PAN LATER SO PLEASE JUST GIVE ME THE BANNER UNIT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
I STILL DON'T HAVE CHICHI I JUST WANT PAN PLEASE
Reminder EZAreas are shit
Btw why did you guys bait people into believing that we're not getting enough for 2 44% summons?
>>1793193>considering we have i think around 30 extra tickets"A total of 100 Global Tickets can be obtained
during the campaign period. 50 tickets can be
obtained in Part 1, and another 50 can be
obtained in Part 2! Don't miss out on the
following events that allow you to obtain tickets"
How do I know if I got the "great chance of further raising ATK" with Gogeta's supers?
Throw my tickets at Rose, Omega or Blueku?
>>1793226any you have already?
I think blueku will be the most useful long term and omega the most needed for some annoying missions later on
>>1793209>The other saiyans would probably call him mutant behind his back.he would deck them
>>1793210if you can pity omega you can pity pan, you can convert the pity coins into either a red coin or a blue coin. so in the scenario you get omega, you can just convert them to red coins and coin pan. im channeling my luck energy to you i rainbowed her trying to get omega
>goku in 3 or so sets
>gotega in the free summon of the first set
>black with 50 tickets
I think I'll use the other 50 tickets to get ogema and then sit on my 2250 remaining stones for heroes later this year (surely)
Maybe daima monkeys when they drop
>>1793227Don't have any of the three at all
900 stones. Got one of each. You may kneel now.
>>1793228Banner units rarely get put into the coin shop, and if they do most of the time is on carnival banners. But it will be a LONG time until that happens...
I just want Pan, man
>>1793234>Don't have any of the three at allBlueku is the strongest of them but with Rose you can run a clone kino team
Well we have 300 summon points. Where's the meme banner omatsu
>>1793234Omega is the most valuable of them all if you're running Extreme, ignore the Shitperfag
>>1793234Rose's my fav but Goku/Vegeta are the most versatile. Omega is uhh... Yeah.
Reminder EZAreas are shit
goku you already said that.
>part 1 gets one EZA and three SEZA
>part 2 gets all of this
bruh
farming up nuova was very easy compared to other grinds in this game, have they given up on prime battles?
>>1793223you don't, you just have to guess based on the atk stat you got
Fuck the 50 ticket summon. Got LR TEQ SSJ3 Dragon Fist Goku. Rainbowed him with that copy, but he's unusable.
>>1793263It's not a Prime Battle
The showcase of the 2nd best unit of this celebration just dropped! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5O8u5-FvWE
>>1793271team comp looks kinda jank but I dig it. idk what I'd swap out the int rose for though, don't like him too much.
>>1793209shut the fuck up you corny idiot, you posted this before already
no one cared the first time and no one cares now about your retarded rant. KILL yourself retard.
>>1793262It will probably be 2 Eza events max, so only 60 stones.
If the units are good I wont mind at all tho
>>1793273Team will look much better in a week with the Sub-EZAs, I bet TEQ Syn will be a must have
Omega's actor is trying but he sounds out of breath. How old are these niggas
>>1793264>you just have to guess based on the atk stat you gotAt 55% I'm seeing an ultra super with a stat of 50 mil so I guess that more than that will mean that proc activated?
>>1793262Excellent my GT heroes team will be complete with extra options
Omega's banner doesn't have the SEZA units? What the fuck? Don't tell me that I'll have to save some stones for a SEZA banner or some shit like that.
>>1793285>SEZA units?Your global dragon stones?
>I need to link level all of this now
FUCK
>>1793291im neither of those, yet you are still a spic
>>1793293You are both things, I see through you, fucking mutt
>>1793292multiple spics in here, why am i not surpised
>>1793295bro it's dragon ball wat did u think??
>>1793295we run this shit kys
>>1793262We seriously couldn't have gotten an EZA for int Vegeta&Trunks for part 1???
>>1793294You don't see through anything, you are a fat retarded spic monkey. Know your place
>>1793301the only thing you run is a taco shop kys
>>1793276You should care. This lack of creativity will kill the franchise.
>>1793262Future Saga is shit
What's better
doing the one 50 ticket multi
or
doing five 10 ticket multis?
>>1793302>EZA for int Vegeta&Trunks for part 1???I guess they wanted to save the best EZAs for part 3
>>1793305The franchise is already dead you fucking retard
>>1793314Not yet. Fuck you.
>>1793262Are they not EZA'ing the tur int ssj4 gogeta or they just didn't include him in this?
>>1793319maybe part 3 magic with vegeta&trunks copium
>>1793305No the point was your argument is retarded and it's not a problem, you're just retarded and brain dead
>>1793319The INT DFE and V/T are going to EZA in Part 3/EX, they included both of them in each banner for a reason
>>1793317No, I think not.
>>1793302>>1793319VegeTrunks and the int gogeta for part 3
>>1793321And yet the franchise is very much stuck in a creative rut. Toyotaro can only recycle past plot elements. The consequences of letting an upjumped fanfic writer helm your franchise. Much as Dokkan endlessly recycles the same canned lines.
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>150 stones for blues
>200 stones for gogeta
what a turnaround after only pulling evo shitgeta during 10th anni... now I guess to coin ss4 goku
>>1793329I agree with you but Toyoshitaro never was at the helm of the franchise, the manga is just a promotional side project for the anime that became it's own thing as time went on, Shueisha used it to fuck with the IP and hijack the Dragon Ball Super brand which is why we don't have a sequel for the anime and Daima got made.
>>1793314>The franchise is already deadFuck Shueisha, fuck Akio Iyoku, fuck Toyotaro, fuck niggers and fuck TOEI
>>1793329Same for Toei and Toriyama. Daipa was so boring repairing the ship every episode and fighting literal shit mooks. You can't even tell it's the demon realm... it may as well just be a random planet.
And then the end is just GT ss4 retread for more nostalgia.
Skipping SHITgeta for the REAL SSJ4 (Daima).
>>1793338>Same for Toei and ToriyamaPretty common thing guy starts out gets lot of pushback/help always striving to improve. Suddenly he breaks through gets lots of fame and money and he either gets arrogant or stops caring. The reality is that almost every enjoyable piece of media was made by a young guy that put in 110% effort.
Fuck yeah I got the Omega animation that replaces the Whis for this celebration.
How the fuck do you do the phases in shenron? I'm only using supers but I can't get to phase 2 or 3
>>1793348Dupe off the free multi ofatsu I kneel.
is doing the 50 ticket summon even worth it
ok bros how good are they
new #1/2?
>>1793353Literally free tickets with a 44% chance to win them
I got a dupe for Gogeta with it.
>finished Nuova with one mission to spare
I won
>>1793353No don't listen to the retards you're just going to get a shitty banner unit. Use your tickets for multis instead.
>>1793353don't listen to the retard, the 50 ticket summon has a way higher chance of giving you the new unit
>>1793357>ok bros how good are they>new #1/2?I'd say that undisputed top 3 is Gogeta Omega Blueku they're all kinda broken
>>179336810th anni bros... wtf...
>>1793367You have over a 50% chance of just getting a banner unit, the odds are not in your favor at all. It's to bait retards into wasting 5 multis worth of tickets on year 1 Agl SSJ Goku.
>>1793344Said nobody ever and baited nobody
>>1793357Gogeta 2 omega 3. Double omega support is crazy broken so you could make the case that he's better - but nothing tops STR blue goku. Jesus christ what the fuck were they thinking when they made that fucking unit genuinely. But once they start spamming short fights that hit for billions of damage and blueku gets powercrept, i could see gogeta/omega as 1
>>1793370and you have an even bigger chance of just getting a banner unit with the ticket multies
>>1793372Ok retard enjoy your banner unit while I sit here with my Omega plus other SSRs.
>>1793209>Why is Goku so arrogant as to believe his forgiveness is even sought by his foe?It often gets translated that way but what he says in the mose literal sense is "I won't let you!" like "I won't let you get away with this!"
>>1793373I got Gogeta with my 50 ticket summon, but nice try anon
>>1793369Vegito still offers a fight ending active that protects your whole rotatiom, is invincible in slot 2/3 before he gets that fight ending active and can infinitely stack defense/attack, also potara broken vegeta is still nowhere near close to being powercrept defensively. So you can still make a pretty good case that he's at least better than gogeta and omega, and possibly blueku if you start reaching
>>1793375Sounds like 49 units less than I got with my Omega.
>>1793377oh no not the SRs
>>1793376are gogeta and omega not tanky?
>90% Gogeta gets his teeth kicked in by Rosรฉ normals post supers
Shocked me, Black fight is still harder than the Omega and Gogeta imo
>>1793379>are gogeta and omega not tanky?They are tankier than Vegito that's why Vegito isn't top 3
>>1793380>Boosts Rose over and over again without killing FagmazuYour fault
>GT can't get half a Worldwide no matter what, Worldwide always has a consistent theme
I will never stop laughing at the patterntard who kept saying this now.
>>1793380its better to take out zamasu first because goku black gets buffed with each hit he takes
>>1793382Blueku would have survived that situation
the 44% ticket is a fucking scam, do not fall for it
>>1793381Very convenient example posted right as you typed this. Vegito, with his active up, would not only tank but also kill both of these guys. And that's why you can argue that he's top 3.
>>1793380
I fucking hate SS3 GT Goku, why does this little shit never DODGE
>>1793388>Vegito, with his active up, would not only tankI mean he would crumble like a piece of paper idk what to tell you
The more I play Dokkan the more I hate it. I'm so tired of randomly dying to supers regardless of how new, duped, or caked in support a unit is.
>>1793392True, I have him at 90% with all of his equips, he needs at least a turn or 2 of Vegeta's DEF stacking to be safe
>>1793392He wouldn't unless he got supered before he got the chance to attack. He would have a higher DEF stat than the opponent would even hit for after a few supers, with 60% dr and guard on top of it
>>1793386I got Gogeta thanks to that.
Meanwhile 2 10 ticket multi on omegas banner didn't get me shit, I'm still gonna waste 30 tickets on that for pan, but I don't expect to get anything
>>1793386This
I wasted the 50 on a fucking Frost, then pulled Gogeta with the remaining 20.
>>1793398>>1793400The duality of men
>>1793397>unless he got supered before he got the chance to attackI mean that's kinda the basis of being able to tank secondly Black with Zamasu up fully built up normals for 7.5 million so no again
50 is better if you want the new unit only, 10 is better if you want multiple units from the banner. People figured this out as soon as the announcement was made.
>>1793353I did the 50 and got metal dildo. Don't do it bro.
>>1793403vegito with his active up post 3 supers averages 3.75 mil defense
3.75mil defense with guard and 60% dr takes double digits vs 7.5
1st multi, got the Phys SS2 Gohan. 2nd multi, got the long kamehameha into Shenron into Gogeta BBK animation. That was pretty cool. Ezpz.
Gogeta's massive % numbers made me so hard. And then he proceeded to fold to Black like every other unit in the game. Laaaaaaame should've made his percentages multiplicative.
>>1793410So with his active skill up and as long as he supers first he would be able to tank normals and if he got hit by 1 super he would crumble like a piece of paper?
>>1793412KEK didnt you guys jump that other anon calling him retarded in the last thread for saying exactly this
>>1793414He was a prophet...
Wait did they reset the summon point for the part 1 banners?
>>1793404>10 is better if you want multiple units from the bannerNot even. Enjoy getting your 50 SRs. Anyone who doesn't do the 50 is retarded.
you telling me the new str blueku that just released is the best unit in the game by far?
>>1793417Anon, it's a single. I'm doing the 50s but if you want say both Gogeta and transforming SS4 Goku for example, you don't have another option and the difference in rates will be lessened.
>>1793418but gogeta and omiiga are newer-er
>>1793412>Gogeta's massive % numbers made me so hardWe NEED more HP, fuck def fuck atk GIVE ME MORE HP
>>1793413You keep changing goalposts, the fact of the matter is, vegito with his active skill is possibly the best defensive unit in the whole game (next to str blueku but he's untouchable), while protecting your rotation and killing almost every boss in his path in a single turn. Doesn't black super for around 25 mil when he's fully built up + zamasu is alive? Like there are literally 0 units that can actually even tank that, you have to either dodge or nullify it to survive. Gogeta can nullify sure but he still dies to the normals. And remember, yiu can stack too with vegito, he's so crazy that with some stacks from Vegeta he could possibly even live that 25 mil. Stop disrespecting the GOAT, you know he's busted
>>1793425>but he's untouchableCan't even tank normals pre super sorry
too much BLUEKU glaze
HE'S GAY
>>1793426I meant blue goku is untouchable, but sure, if the normals are 7 mil. You still get the option to stack defense with vegeta if you want to. He's a complete unit
People are afraid to admit it but Blue Goku/Bejita are the worst unit of this celebration. Rose dabs all over him with his damage reduction and won't get shit on once they decide to turn off dodge in hard content again.
>>1793427When they make hard fights that dodge cancel turn 1 he's gonna fall off
>>1793429ssj4 midgeta is the worst unit of the celebration
>>1793429True, but Rose isn't far behind, Gogeta is the best followed by Omega
>>1793420they are less than a month apart
I HATE RUNNING THE PHY SSJ4 SHITTERS AND HAVING TO WATCH THEM DO 20 FUCKING ADDITIONAL SUPERS JUST CAUSE THEY SHARE EVERY LINK WITH THR NEW GOGETA. FUCK YOU
>>1793433Rose can tank literally anything in the game in any situation and in any slot. He's not to be underestimated. Guy is fucking unkillable.
>>1793433>ssj4 midshita>best unit of the celebrationhow
>>1793436chud why do you hate them they're good like the gods duo
>>1793437my rainbow rose got folded by blackmasu
GOATKU reigns supreme. He TANKS BLACKEDmasu's cock
>>1793432And I got a dupe for the LR SS3 Goku
Aaaand I just got SS2 Gohan on my last 10 tickets after pondering using coins to get him
>>1793443Nice to know you're retarded and didn't fullfill his passive condition for full DR.
>>1793443Same shit happened with my 79% Rosemazu, I don't know what is that guy smoking but he's overrating them
>>1793446>in ANY situation
omega's animations are so dog ass god damn
>>1793429but i was just told they are the best unit in the game by far
>>1793448Thanks for admitting you're retarded and were running him without meeting his conditions which are extremely easy to meet and should be met on any team he's going to be run on. Let me guess you tried to run him on Jobku's team surrounded by Super units where he has 0% DR.
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As always monke come instantly to me
I think it's a reward for me ignoring dbs content
>>1793452Thanks for correcting the record that he is in fact not unkillable in any situation.
So does the single summon ticket banner have more value than the multi summon ticket banner?
>>1793452you're vastly overestimating his defensive capabilities
he has 60% dr with guard and gets 180% defense when receiving a hit
he gets one shot by 10mil+ supers no matter what. and starts taking damage after hits get over 7 mil. If you've got him rainbow with defense equips it makes a great difference.
Overall goku's 80% dodge and 70% dr make him way more reliable, for now
>>1793461it gives a much higher chance of getting one of the GDC LRs but you can't get any of the other featured units since the new one is the only featured unit
I have wanted to compile a chronicle of the history of /dokkan/ for some time. What is our legacy of nothing can be said of us? What stories or drama would you care to submit?
>>1793466God Goku vs Orange Piccolo
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>>1793452>>1793463okay just cause i was curious, this is my rose with all of his defensive links up, i have him at 89% with all of his raw def equips, on a 220% lead (jobku's team)
his conditions are activated cause i have 4 future saga allies on the team
Now if my math isn't terrible this means on hit he has:
With 0 additionals 12kis:
1.46 mil def, 60% dr + guard (not very good)
With 1 additional 12ki:
1.9mil def
With 2 additionals:
2.35mil def
You can use this site to see what kind of hits he can tank with these stats https://dokkan-damage-calculator.netlify.app/
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>>1793465Doesn't seem that bad.
>>1793476it depends on who you ask really, someone who got lucky will obviously love it and someone who got shafted will obviously hate it
>Phy ssj4 goku and vegeta get folded turn 2 after doing 8 supers by the new event
Is it... over?
>>1793471What am I seeing here?
>hey so lets just make gogeta 4 do the fucking dragon fist bro lol and the dragon fist pose for no fucking reason
>>1793485its cool so its fine
Sadly after extensive testing I've come to the conclusion Omega is way more fun than Gogeta is.
>>1793485So much aura farming(I think thatโs what the kids say now?)
>>1793493same. gogeta's kinda... all animations no fun. omega's got the fun mechanics.
also, gogeta + anni carnival ss3 goku work way better together than anni eza phy goku&vegeta even if they're both agl. it's fucking over..
How the fuck does slot 1 blueku dodge every single time and tag goku fucking never does
>>1793479You're supposed to instantly transform them after their 77 dr is gone...
why gogeta doing that weird arms crossed pose before the dragon fist explodes and then drops down to do goku's dragon fist victory pose? bro's trying to do too many things at once.
>>1793469>>1793472Also I just wanted to say blueku is no slouch defensively either.
He has 70% DR with 1.4mil ish defense at rainbow ll10 when receiving a hit. Anyone who is saying this will age worse than rose is delusional, cause even if there's dodge canceling, as soon as you survive 1 turn with blueku (you can float him turn 1) you literally get the most op active of all time, the dodge cancel canceling, and he can dodge again. This motherfucker is NEVER aging out. I have mine full dodge cause I don't even care and I've never seen him get hit by a super once since I've first used him. He gets hit like 10% of the time (and "on paper" he should have like 86% dodge the way he's built. Insane)
>>1793503You can't transform them on turn 2... I didn't get the chance I'm sure with the counter the gogeta part of the card will do just fine but I can't get there without items.
>>1793504he thinks its cool lmao what a loser
vegitoGOD btw
>>1793504It looks cool for a shot but it does make the ending disjointed
Looks like there's a bug with Omega's active skill.
All I did was launch it and suddenly the game started playing the battle even though I hadn't selected any orbs yet
You niggers are full of shit this omega fight is way harder than rose. Always a fucking slot 1 super and rotation lock fucking you.
>>1793455This is the first time I literally haven't summoned on a part 1 at all in 9 years. Pity for Tao and Ten was the right call.
>>1793466There is nothing worth enshrining about the /vmg/ threads. We were at our best when we were being oppressed by /v/ jannies and e-celeb retardation was treated with extreme prejudice.
>>1793467Shut the fuck up.
>>1793520never launch omega shenrons active skill at 3 am
>>1793527But it's always 3am somewhere on the planet
>>1793477Yeah I just pulled str goten lol.
>>1793523Omega hits like a wet noodle compared to Black
Are people finally going to stop trying to use the Black fight as a measuring stick? No other fight this month has that level of raw stats, it's just a bullshit stage.
>>179353555% gogeta jobs to him in slot 1
CHADckmasu gets the hardest fight, coolest animations, and best looking hair. I think we all know why.
>>1793543obviously midgeta jobs to him in slot 1, try using a real unit, like str CHADku black or str blue GODku.
I did the ticket single and pulled ss4 gogeta and did two multis with the 20 other tickets and pulled a ss4 gogeta dupe they're both worth to me
>>1793543https://youtu.be/H8xsjdf0iQ8?feature=shared
14:23
There's no way that can be true
What the fuck is this gay whiny weeb trash they're playing? Where the real GT theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR46WbmYFyQ
>Gets one shot even with Omega support in your path
They didn't even need to bother with time limited buffs for this shitter. He's way worse than the 4's and Vegito and Black despite being more needed than any of them. Those shadow dragon EZAs next week had better be immaculate.
>>1793551It is. He gets stunned with a 400k super and 60k normals.
>>1793551https://youtu.be/H8xsjdf0iQ8?feature=shared
16:48
Rose with his full DR literally taking 200k more damage than blue goku against the same super lol
>>1793538We have always loved using bullshit stages for dick measuring contests here.
>>1793551>>1793563HOLY FUCK BLUE GOKU IS A GOD WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING WHEN THEY DESIGNED THIS FUCKER
>>1793564Except every unit debated about this time gets humbled there. Only ki blast counter units are reliable.
>already forgotten
So his SEZA was bad huh?
>datruth the dodge guy has phy VB full crit and wonders why he keeps selling vs supers
LMFAO what a fucking braindead fatass. I wasn't surprised when I saw most "people" here building him full crit but I expected better from truth
>>1793568That's right. This is GODgeta's house now.
>>1793566Rosรฉ is cooler than him. Gogeta is cooler than him. Omega has to carry all villains who aren't Rosรฉ out of the mud, so to counter all that and make up for the active skill insult they made Blueku the best one
>>1793482Some units are clearly paired up between vegito and gogeta
Some I tried to make sense of but there's probably no correlation there, and some don't make sense at all
>dodgetard getting uppity about his half percents again
Exit.
>>1793575yeah he's horrible if you build him full crit, like most people here. My phy vb with 26 dodge is pretty great though.
>super jobbers keep jobbing
>delete his territory
>baby monkes out of lock and nukes 2 bars
>agl omega tanks with half passive
>zamasu rapes
Extremechads I kneel
>dodgetard getting uppity about his half percents
next post from the same anon:
>why do my super jobbers keep jobbing against the easiest gdc stage everyone with dodge build characters beats first try
>dodgetard so obsessed he can't fathom multiple people not being as stupid as him and has to spam time-stamped e-celeb links that get no replies
I have the monkey. Where should I use the tickets?
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>>1793596whichever LR you don't have yet that you want the most
speaking of dodge gods and timestamps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8xsjdf0iQ8
23:35
>>1793592>>1793595it was actually a rhetorical example but it may also very well have been the case since all of the super class units we got this GDC very obviously need full dodge builds, and as soon as dodge was slandered a person struggling to beat an easy stage with a super class team (currently best in game btw), but had no issue beating it with an extreme team, appeared. The extreme units we got dont need dodge as much (except int zamasu who requires unconditional full dodge) so a critsubhuman would theoretically have much better luck with an extreme team.
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Can't wait for their SEZAs.
>>1793606>since all of the super class units we got this GDC very obviously need full dodge buildsincorrect premise, shan't be reading the rest.
>>1793600They are all equally good?
Why does it seem like they held back on gogeta, am I just retarded?
>>1793607Is this ragebait
>>1793606>best team in the game needs shit rng hipo dodge to not eat shit against the easiest fightYeah this makes sense.
Are y'all using the tickets on the regular multis or the blowing your load on the 50?
>>1793610Blues > zamasu and omega. Honestly not sure which extreme will be better for missions later.
>>1793609you're the same type of subhuman who slandered str ui last year meanwhile he was the absolute most insane god unit in the whole game with a full dodge build on a full rou7 team. agl ui is also a full dodge character who was busted beyond comprehension (beast was never better btw ive proved it said it time and time again and it finally shows. "muh phy 17" kek). You subhumans cannot into basic logic
>>1793614I played basketball and our coach would make us SGs run a hundred laps if we ever had under 75% for our free throws every time we checked in friday practice (we shot 100 to test). 80% was average/okay. 85% was godlike. Few kids had over 90% and not consistently, so it was beyond godlike, you can imagine. You people never understand. Think about it for a while and maybe you might one day. But it would require growing a brain.
>>1793625>non-sequiturdodgetard can't even stick to the topic at hand
>>1793625>basketball american can't into mathNow it ACTUALLY makes sense.
>>1793627you didn't even bother trying to explain why you think the super class gdc units DON'T need full dodge. When it is a pretty well established fact that a full dodge build basically transforms phy vb and str blue goku. AND agl gogeta I would argue but I'm not gonna go there
>DW only pulls 1 blues and 1 gogeta in 9150 stones
My nigga didn't deserve this
>>1793633because you treat it as self-evident instead of explaining why they should yourself in the first place.
>>1793635>9150>5x over pity
>>1793638You can only pity 1 copy of each headliner
>>1793637it's a very simple premise.
If you knew blue goku contributed to about 20-25% of your team's total damage with his supers alone, and giving him a full offensive build could take that up to 25-30% (a 30% increase since he already has effective against all types, high crit, high add chance and he's str. Doesn't exactly multiply the % of contribution by 1.3 since the teams total damage also goes up), it might be effective in very SHORT fights where those extra damage points could get you in a advantageous spot. But based on anecdotal experience you know this is rare, and in longer fights, the effect gets dulled down and down.
Meanwhile, lets calculate the effectiveness of dodge. If he were to get caught and not dodge, with an 80% dodge chance, and he only gets targeted by a super twice per run on average for our experiment, that's a 36% chance to sell the run. If he has 30 dodge that's a 86% chance to dodge twice - that brings the chance to sell down to 26%.
Insignificant? How about we make a hypothetical run where he gets supered 10 times?
80% dodge chance sell probability: 89.26% (lol)
86% dodge chance sell probability: 77.87%
Your NOT SELLING chance goes from ~10% to almost 25%. Effectively, he is over 2x better defensively. The more you use him, the harder the fights, the more you can generally "feel" this. Dodge is the opposite of crit: it becomes more and more statistically significant based on how long and how tough the fights are. I remember using similar math for STR UI (the effective benefit actually gets multiplied many times over once the numbers get bigger, and since str ui also loses dodge when he gets hit it is very crazy for him) and nobody had anything intelligent to say to me except call me gay and retarded. But you're wrong and I'm right. And I win in the game and you lose against gdc stage 3.
>>1793575I don't understand why people were making it seem like he was the second coming, his damage isn't even good. Rose is way more useful
>>1793558I don't know why Akatsuki doesn't like Baby... I bet the int eza will be trash too
>>1793607I have them both at 55% they will suck ass...
>>1793625Dodgetards can't be this stupid...
I just realized something...why the hell doesn't Dokkan (or any DB game) try to give SSBE Vegeta something? In the anime all he got was a couple of generic final flashes and galick guns and then a final explosion animated like a crappy filler episode, and the games just copy that 1:1 and let him rot.
>>1793655>20-25% of your team's total damage with his supers alone, and giving him a full offensive build could take that up to 25-30%That's already complete conjecture with massive variance.
>it might be effective in very SHORT fights where those extra damage points could get you in a advantageous spot.That's all the fights so far in this celebration and Goku has an almost 50/50 shot at getting the additional with a full add build, 60% for Vegeta.
>sell the runHe needs to be put in front of a 6 million opposite class super before attacking or active for that to even be a possibility.
>a hypothetical run where he gets supered 10 times>gdc stage 3What are you even saying? Stage 3 has a single scheduled super per turn. This idea of getting supered X times doesn't reflect anything in-game. Just pick an actual stage.
>>1793669okay got it, you can only think in what's directly in front of you and can't into thought experiments, almost like a baboon. They should be calling you guys critbaboons from now on. Here's something simpler for you: how many times have you went "damn I wish that unit would've dodged" because it would actually make or break your run vs "damn I wish that unit would've crit" (not counting additional cause any time you've ever said that would probably have been because of defensive reasons, i.e. a unit not getting extra defense from an extra super)
>He needs to be put in front of a 6 million opposite class super before attacking or active for that to even be a possibility.
honestly reminds me of the beast copers last year... we all know how that story played out
>>1793678>what are varying team comps>what is counter-play>what are enemy statsNo, your particular thought experiment is just fucking awful. You made up a huge number of fatal scenarios from thin air when 90% of the game is nothing like it and acted like dodge is the only way out. Try harder, dodgetard.
>>1793679>how that story played outYes he was #1 for a year and is still runnable
>>1793682the gap between him and agl ui only grows bigger every day
vs a phy boss im taking my full rou7 team str ui over beast
>>1793681my thought experiment's point was to show that dodge INCREASES in effectiveness with difficulty, and length. Content will get HARDER with time, not easier. The closer to being run-ending the supers become, the longer the fights become (or stages rather, cause sbr style events are many short fights in a row, to which my calcs still apply), the more bang for your bang you're getting out of dodge, and i'd rather make a great defensive unit like str blue goku nigh-invincible with dodge a million times over giving him a small chance to give him a tad bit more damage sometimes that also has a 50% chance of being completely insignificant and will generally do nothing for me.
>>1793691>to show that dodge INCREASES in effectiveness with difficulty, and lengthAnd? That doesn't justify a full dodge build for Goku on its own. When the meta wants to kick him out, hipo builds aren't going to save him.
One day they'll release a no item BHFF style event and all of you full crit fags will be crying day in day out claiming the fights are impossible because your lazily built full crit units that rely on crutches like whis items and ghost ushers will crumble when they finally snatch that dumb safety net away from them
>>1793694it's not that simple. And it's the reason units like STR UI and AGL UI are hated by most but work even better than newer, "better" (on paper) units for players like me. You're choosing to cripple your units then claim they're aging out once they don't completely curbstomp the entire game anymore
>>1793691nta but your dodge has a much higher chance of being insignificant when it procs against a move you would tank anyway. your hipo dodge won't save your powercrept shitter from having to reset over and over. the only thing that might is items, which make dodge even more pointless.
>>1793698they'll sooner release dodge cancel events (and have) that shit on your retarded dafat builds.
Should I be summoning on the 10 ticket thing or the 50 ticket pull, or should I be doing singles
>>1793698It really is in his case. Goku's kit produces consistent stats and his dodge chance is already massive so it would take being completely outclassed by normals everywhere for him to age out.
Yeah dodgetards are really that stupid, kinda shocking honestly
>>1793703the 50 ticket pull has a much higher chance of getting one of the LRs, but if you don't get it then you just get some unfeatured SSR at worst or a yellow coin LR at best
>>1793554if i opened the game and they played this I'd actually pull out my wallet and buy all the stone packs
>>1793701oh which reminds me, blueku cancels dodge canceling by the way... lmao. I can see the arguement against dodge on SOME characters, I'm not that obsessed, but on blue goku in particular you CANNOT be doing anything else other than full dodge. Too much to lose.
>>1793700It's not about the chance of it being insignificant, rather, I'm calcing the chance of it being significant. That's why I used supers on my example, cause on the new stages, blueku dies to rose supers, and phy VB is also complete dodge or die to supers but can take normals (we were arguing about DGC super class units being full dodge)
Im not completely braindead with dodge and don't recommend you build characters like beast gohan or something full dodge, it's just certain characters gain much more from dodge than other hipo stats. And it drives me crazy when people don't recognize the value of dodge on those specific chars. It's undebatable.
>>1793215fuck, I already used 10
I thought they wouldn't give another 50
Show me Pan clips, how does she performs?
I hate Gogeta's retarded hop in his 12 ki.
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>>1793386Another example of why the 44% multi is a scam, 5 multis and got my 2nd copy of Goku.
>>1793526Kill yourself
>>1793709Yeah but who the hell put dodge on teq vegito? Nobody. It's counterintuitive. He just sucks for some fights and you have to accept that, so no the entire super team does not go dodge.
>>1793558I was wondering the same thing then found this
no wonder he felt so weak compared
I can't believe all of you genuinely think the blue kissless jobber is better than 10th anniversary Super Vegito
>>1793607you knew they were coming and this celebration they're giving us 100 stones so you can get 5 free copies to rainbow both of them
>>1793618I said fuck it and just did the 50 ticket pull that has the guaranteed chance and managed to get gogeta.
i'd say it's better but it's basically a coin flip of getting fucked or not
>>1793709>I'm calcing the chance of it being significant.That's nearly impossible. You'd have to calc how many actions could be in your slot of choice as well as the chance for each of those actions to be a super and the dodge chance on top of all that which would still leave you with a result that can be completely invalidated by something like a scouter.
>>1793720They just despise baby. Has he ever had a good card?
For every instance of truth howling about getting the dodge there's another one of him bitching about not getting the kill and getting fucked next turn
55% Gogeta rapes the entire game
55% Gogeta gets raped by the entire game
55% Gogeta has consensual intercourse with the entire game
GT>Super and Daipa
Super Saiyan 4>UI, Ultra Ego, Beast, Daipa 4 and everything else
>>1793725I got him too and decided to dump my remaining tickets into Omega and got the new Pan out of it. Everyone should at least give it a chance
NEW TIER LIST JUST DROPPED
But seriously, where's the discussion of the new units? Top 2? Top 5? Top 10?
>>1793756All of the new units are better than Vegito, which is the only thing that matters
>>1793756Well I take back being a bit sad about 4 Shenrons and 1 Gogeta (+1 dupe bought from pity shop). Shenron's better by far and enables some fun extreme shenanigans
>>1793759rent free and cope
>>1793761>Vegitofag so over the edge that it takes 19 seconds to reply my post out of the ovenKeep seething Vegitranny
>>1793763>heh, it took me a whole minute to seethe about vegito out of nowhere, i'm not mentally ill
>>1793751Super slop could never reach this peak
>>1793756None seem to totally gap one another so eh. I'm content to just put them all in top 10 and call it a day.
>>1793759SV got a raw deal with these short stages. The GDC units are way more versatile.
>>1793755It was very satisfying when K&Cโs eza was bad.
>>1793765>What, you talked shit about something I'm like?>YOU'RE MENTALLY ILL.You're retarded. Do you think he's really as invested as you are?
Real men break the potara.
so troo bejita!! real saiyajin!!!
>dies
>>1793729nope. 10 years in and we're still waiting for his first dokkanfest
>>1793777Works on my machine.
>>1793775You have to break the Potara to survive in the new events, Vegito got powercrept really hard
>>1793778lame. baby > omega deviant art spikes
>>1793729>>1793778LR Baby absolutely raped extreme agl SBR as just a friend lead.
>>1793751WHOA are those 1 frame flashes you can't possibly make out in all the visual diarrhea? I love modern animation so much! Yabba dabba doo!
>>1793784MY EYES WTF IS HAPPENING
IS THIS AN EPILEPSY EPISODE
>>1793785Average one piece fight.
>>1793786well that's not the one piece I remember.
>>1793787That's okay, you'll get to see it all the time in nu-Dokkan.
Babyโs great ape was always good in SBR stages because you could go into the fights after the first one and immediately get his ape turn 1. The GT opening trio were the true rape victims of the 4th anniversary.
>>1793789Speaking of them has DB seekers ever been a meta relevant team? I can only think of AGL Ginyu and his banner units.
>>1793784>the Statue of LibertyFor what purpose?
>>1793793Is it possibly AI adding frames?
>>1793705Dude I was so mad when I the Zeno animation only for Omega to pop up and time reverse it into a base form Goku and all I got were 9 shitty SRs and one old banner unit.
>>1793784Didn't the japs learned their lesson with that Pokemon episode?
Why are they trying to kill their kids nowadays with this shit?
>>1793794Just toei being toei.
>vegito active starts with a 2 frame spin kick (?) you can't even see, then he flies at breakneck speed into a sudden stop and a light chop, then they ran out of budget when he raises his arm
>gogeta kicks the opponent and flies after them into the air, then somehow they're both standing on the ground
>goget4 flies straight up flexing his punch for 10 seconds, then out of nowhere he's flying downwards, then he punches and crosses his arms, then suddenly he's on the ground doing a fist raise
It feels like this guy is changing his mind halfway through on what the attack should be, and not bothering to change the first part.
I think they used real animators for Gogeta
>>1793755it's actually mindblowing how every single unit up there minus teq broly and teq rosemasu got bad ezas
>PHY Pan finally EZA'd
>she isn't in any of the banners
Fucking monkey's paw....
>>1793801animation is so weird now imo
>>1793801You just cant keep up with him
>>1793804I got some decent usage out of prime battle Goku.
>>1793712Oh believe me Pan always performs well. No idea how good the new unit is though.
>>1793805I mean who hasn't had her rainbowed for years at this point?
>>1793804All of Z was good except Gohan/Goten. KC was overblown and just okay. Cell was really good and SS3 Goku was decent. Baby and Yamcha got fucked by their team. Broly, Pan, Ginyu Force, 17/18, Kid Gohan, PB Goku, and 1st Form Freeza were good.
>>1793813Me, I'm only at 69%....
>>1793801The funniest part is that if you put the new Gogeta's 12 and 18 ki together, you basically get 7th anni Gogeta's 18 ki.
Pan's support is obviously insane but she feels like she can be a liability. at 69% in the new special stages she needs to super multiple times to not get one tapped by the normals, but she can't super multiple times unless she gets hit first, but if she gets hit she's dead, etc. etc.
So many new units to grind up links for thanks to the EZAs. Wish they EZA'd more banner units so it'd give me worthwhile shit to grind links for again.
>>1793824also how she only gets her full passive the second time she appears
SPEAK ABOUT THE 2 NEW UNITS.
DATUSSY DIDN'T DROP A NEW TIER LIST SO I CAN'T HAVE AN OPINION YET
>>1793827gogeta is stronger but omega is more valuable for your box
>>1793827Both are stronger than Super Shitgito, Gogeta is better than Omega but Omega is more valuable
Do we know what the summon points are used for yet?
>>1793828>>1793830BUT WHAT ABOUT COMPARED TO NOT-GITO AND ROSEMASU
>>1793831Ticket to get a unit released from a certain period of time
>>1793832Both are better than them fr fr
Bros... our top grossing?
>>1793836Wait for Part 3 and EX
>>1793813I have her with 2 dupes only...
Bros... our stream stones?
>>1793825When are we getting the EZAs info? And when should we expect them to actually drop?
>>17938271. Gogeta
2. GT Duo EZA
3. Omega
4. Blue
5. Rose
>>1793840Ofartsu doesn't want you to know that information as it may be a sobering moment that free stones are coming later unlike with the launch of part 2.
>>1793832Blues are the strongest gdc unit. Rose is stronger than omega as a unit but not as a leader.
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Wait. Gogeta already has 6/7 links with SS3 Goku. Why would I ever use the 7th anni super saiyan 4s... I'm not using GT heroes I'm just dumping them on AGL Vegeta's team.
>>1793846Better than ALL of the english-speaking dokkan youtbers btw
>>1793849Not a high bar to be fair
>>1793847Gogeta needs 2 other GT heroes on the team for his entrance buffs and the 7th anni SS4s are one of the better choices for that
Seriously, what's with the lack of stones to farm? The stuff that dropped today probably wasn't even enough for a single multi.
Shouldn't we be getting close to 1000 stones during big celebrations?
>>1793854S-Stop noticing, wait for Part 3 t-trust the plan!
>>1793825>not having this done years in advance while farming power level for that sweet stamina recharge speed
>>1793854very dry ass celebration...
>>1793854Bruh it literally says it in the title "The 2nd class citizens celebration"
>>1793856Show me that power level fuckboi
I use the tranny stones to get phy omega shenron and the supereza vegito and rose because I didn't have them.
Out of the 100 tranny stones I only have 40 left so I can buy 2 other units, should I just get a dupe each of the 2nd anni units? I have them both at 55% so I think is worth it. I also have that str omega shenron already also at 55%
>>17937561. STR BLUE GOKU
2. TEQ SUPER VEGITO
3. PHY OMEGA SHENRON
4. STR ROSE
5. AGL Gogeta
(TIE WITH PHY SSJ4 GOGETA)
7. TEQ GOD GOKU AND VEGETA
8. AGL SSJ3 GOKU
9. AGL UI GOKU
10. TUR PHY MERCENARY TAO
there
>>1793863wtf agl gogetabros
>>1793856>I still remember when you posted this pic for the first time.I should've follow your advice back then
>>1793863BUT IT CAN'T BE
HE HAS TEH AURA ANIMATIONS
>>1793860ran out of units to link level like 6 months ago so I have to fill out my team with random banner units I'll never use and f2p LRs now that they can all SEZA at any time. I don't even know who my lead will be once I finish phy Hatchihyak.
>>17937561. STR BLUE GOKU
2. TEQ SUPER VEGITO
3. PHY OMEGA SHENRON
4. STR ROSE
5. AGL SUPER Gogeta
6. AGL SSJ4 GOGETA
7. PHY SSJ4 GOGETA
8. LR TEQ GODS
(TIE WITH AGL SSJ3 GTKU)
9. AGL UI GOKU
10. TUR PHY MERCENARY TAO
>>1793868Best unit in the game, love his aura farming animations!
>>1793854we're still waiting on the 30 stones
top grossing
and ezas
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Omega giving some free Mini-EZAs to so many forgotten units like candy
>>1793860not him, but it's the same for me
I've slacked up a lot this past year because I've run out of the premium stuff to link level and it's just f2p or garbage units left
>>1793847Because monke power go brr and is now near indestructible with 7th anni on one rotation and agl Gogeta on the other plus Ape Vegeta as a third slot 1.
>>1793870I don't believe you. My GOAT can't be that low.
>>1793865>>1793867no i fixed it he's def at least 6 cause he can provide some value and from turn 1
But he's not even close to agl super gogeta imo i feel like he needed 60-70% DR or something extra. If you read the kits of the part 1 units side by side with gogeta's kit it seems like he's very undertuned for some reason
>>1793887well I'm guessing it's because big % numbers stimulate monkey brain. but big % numbers on their own are not good enough.
TURS
Int SSJ2 Angel Goku - 79%
STR Base form Goku -> SSJ Goku - 90%
Phy Trans Vegeta - 90%
Int Kid Goku - 90%
Int UI Goku - 90%
Teq SSJ3 Angel Goku - 90%
SSJ3 Bardock - 79%
Phy Super Vegito - 79%
Teq SSJ3 Broly - 90%
LRs
Phy Androids - 69%
STR FP Frieza - 90%
AGL Kale & Caulifla - 79%
GT Trio - 79%
STR Trunks and Mai - 79%
Teq Goku and Frieza - 79%
Phy Bardock - 69%
Phy Trunks - 79%
Agl Trunks & Goten - 79%
Str Broly - 79%
Help me out /dokkan/ scholars who should I use my last 2 tranny stones on? Every unit not listed I already have rainbowed.
>>1793889>69%>69%You know the answer.
>>1793891I put him higher cause he has a lot of meme value and can do OK damage compared to a lot of other contenders. Honestly maybe Tao is 9 then tien 10 and agl ui 11, but AGL UI has a lot of meme value because he can effectively get up to 3 completely free turns (first turn he has guaranteed dodge, you float him. on his next turn it's possible he can bail you out with some revive memery, which protects the whole rotation too, and you can float him again. Then once he revives he gets another free turn. And his high dodge that builds up can also work many times)
Considering the meta shift I thought it was appropriate.
>dude meme value lmao!
Kill yourself, nobody cares about you, your shitty zoomfaggot lingo or your trash tier lists
>>1793890But uh one is a Bardock unit and there's never been a single good Bardock unit in all of Dokkan history
>>1793894? Literally everyone is being a zoomer spamming aura farming at Gogeta's spazzy animations where he literally doesn't punch or do anything while posing for the camera
>>1793896Oh I see, you're the retard that has been seething since Gogeta 4 was revealed, keep going with your shitty baits and the samefaggotry, nigger.
>>1793895Teq was just barely good on release and Saiyan Day was really good with great aging in the stacking meta.
>>1793899Everyone I dislike is the same person btw
>>1793894its the same argument people use for int fat buu and also for the teq androids even as recently as last year idk what point you're trying to make but they can help people clear content a lot more than other characters that may seem more "solid" overall on a surface level, so I think he deserves a better spot
Maybe if I said gimmick it would be more fitting and it wouldn't set you off but you get the point
>>1793903INT SSBE is nowhere to be found on your shitty tier list, and he's far more useful than MUI, his revive is much easier to proc, pair him with Beast Gohan on a different rotation and you have a secured victory because they give you 4 free turns to pop up your Vegito/Gogeta actives.
I won't bother to argue with you beyond this, you're mentally challenged
>>1793900I mean Teq released in an era where every unit was bad so even if he wasn't that good he just kinda fit in with the rest of what was coming out.
Mastered Ultra Instinct > Super Saiyan Pee Evolution
>>1793908Stop making shit up, Teq Bardock released just a week after Gamma 1 and Gamma 2 on JP, these 2 were much better than him, on Global he released 3 months after Orange Cuckollo and Beastless, he was pretty much DoA.
I managed to beat Cell Max with him, Tora, PHY Fasha and the banner units, but that was the absolute limit of his usability
>>1793868This part is so stupid and cringe
LR Baby 1 dupe
LR Gohan/Goten 1 dupe
LR Trunks 0 dupes
agl SSBE 1 dupe
teq Trunks 1 dupe
SS3 Bardock 0 dupes (very tempted for 2 of him)
Jiren 1 dupe
Super Mosquito 1 dupe
phy Omega 0 dupes
Which 4?
>>1793907The thing with int ssbe is he's getting powercrept to death. He can't survive anything on the new stages, so I can't put him anywhere close to agl ui, who is untouchable on most hard content currently. Like unless you have 200% def support i dont see your 2024 rotation working in any new stage.
If meta shifted to dodge cancelling or long fights and it was mostly those that mattered I'd either str tien or teq gotenks on muis spot, not ssbe. Beast is also good and possibly better than tao but tao is more consistent
>>1793914His whole 12 ki is cringe. Zoom, camera acknowledgement, then power up into jumping 360 crossed arms pose, into a flip axe kick, into jumping up 360 elite gamer camera spins as he falls back down to do a heroic entrance pose.
18 ki? Fate stay night heaven's feel animation tracing.
Active skill? 360 spin epilepsy into over-posing again.
>>1793917There's nothing that can kill Vegeta in the first turn with his guard up, and all of the new bosses do enough normals in the first slot that you're pretty much safe for the first and second appearance thanks to the guaranteed revive.
MUI gets clapped if he fails to dodge in his 2nd appearance.
You know nothing about the game, mentally ill fucktard
>>1793917That retard is on crack LMFAO the evolved blue jobber gets oneshotted in every fucking hard stage currently
SSBE is currently so fucking bad you're better off running the STR version lmao
https://xcancel.com/dokkan_official/status/1948186376379519134#m
>no more rap
soulless
Did Broly even get one?
Took me 800 stones to get 1 gogeta and 1 omega. Didn't get any of the super units. Oh well.
>>1793919if you've got mui at max hipo dodge he's basically got 85%, 92%, then 99% chance to dodge his first 3 hits. And the fact that most units that "tank" boss supers take like 50% HP as damage when they get hit make muis condition all the more viable. He isn't even close to vegeta. He gets REAL free turns where nothing can go wrong and has miniscule chances to fuck up when he isn't protected by his gimmicks
Saving my remaining 1300 stones for LR Kid Buu. The dream is still alive.
>>1793925If it's not 100% then it is useless, I've been using the AGL Black clone and he sold my runs too many times.
MUI is useless, much better to use Evogeta, eat 7 hits to proc his revive and then you'll have 2 safe turns.
>REAL free turns where nothing can go wrongLmao, stop with the bullshit
i thought you guys were talking about str ssbe
Case closed, the japanese said that Gogeta is the uncontested number 1 in the game
>>1793934since when have we ever listened to jp's tier lists
>>1793935"we"? Nobody cares what you think
well we can all play that game. nobody cares what anybody thinks
EXCEPT DATRUTH
we all care about datruth's opinion
>>1793934>10.1>SV is still 10.2 as of not even 2 weeks agoHe's only top 4.
>>1793942Just wait for the tier list to change, Vegito is going below Rose after the consideration phase ends
>>1793934Why do jp players always have the most horrendous takes
>>1793943Didn't that already happen? Special Battle 1 had been out for days by then.
>>1793934Based, no one gets close to Gogeta's power level
>>1793947The japanese fag adjusts the tier list when a unit comes out, he already said that Gogeta is the best.
When Orange Piccolo was at the top, he was 10.2, he dropped to 10.0 a day after STR Future Gohan release
>>1793322>>1793328int g4 is probably parts 2s zamasu release not part 3.
>>1793953Omega makes Rose even stronger and I like that
>>1793953A shame that Super Bosses is unrunnable (AGAIN) thanks to Omega, no reason to gimp Rosemazu with a full Super Bosses team when Omega is right there with the juicy support
>>1793956Uhh a stronger team for Rose doesn't mean super bosses isn't usable. It's still a good team
>>1793930You know the agl black clone needs a full clone team and an agl orb for his full dodge chance right?
>>1793963Yes I know, and like I said if it's not 100% then it is useless, oh and Vegeta gets his guard back after revive, at that point in the fight you already have the Ozaru active of SSJ3 Goku, giving him extra DR and saving him from eating a Super from Rose, he's much more safe to run than MUI.
>>1793873WHY CAN'T THIS SHIT DROP INSTANTLY
LEGENDS CAN DO IT, WHY CAN'T THIS PIECE OF SHIT GAME?
>>1793953Omega is SSJ Trio + AGL SS4 Goku combined with no bullshit restrictions
>>1793968They had to do it. We can't get another dogshit omega that is unrunnable with no GT bosses team. There is still no gt bosses team but he has a lot of leads and gives unconditional great support. Finally a good omega.
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Cute
>>1793972Did she pull them?
>>1793969>There is still no gt bosses teamRelease the EZAs fatmatsu!!!
>>1793980Omatsu rigged her pulls giving away the units for free, he's a huge simp
>>1793972>VSHITuberBetter than Datruthdt at least.
>>1793981Yeah basically. Until then you use him with Nuova while running Blacks on the other rotation.
>Prediction time
Who's gonna be the best unit? Who's gonna suck ass?
Will any of them be meta relevant?
WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERYONE THINK GOGETA IS NUMBER 1??? HAVE THEY EVEN USED HIM???
>>1793987syn will be the best because I'm coping. trunks and baby will be garbage. hoping legion and syn are meta.
>>1793987Syn just by existing as a best linking partner for Omega
>>1793987>Who's gonna be the best unitSTR SSJ3 and TEQ Syn
>Who's gonna suck assTrunks and maybe Baby
>Will any of them be meta relevant?The GT bosses units, all of them are guaranteed to get 20% DR and 140% DEF
>>1793987pan will be the best eza in dokkan history
>>1793925Not how it works retard. Dodge from the potential system is a separate proc from the passive.
>>1793989>>1793992Why do you guys think Trunks is gonna suck? Baby I can see tho, Dokkan hates him
>>1793995Name 1 Trunks EZA that has been usable in the relevant content at the moment of their release, just one.
>>1793988The current hardest events counter the Y10s/Y7s, and most of the supers in those events are ki blasts
>>1793995the biggest problem with this baby is that he's a nuke leader and those are completly banned in some hard events, same thing for the SS3 golden ape Goku
>>1793987Pan is going to give an unconditional 2 ki and 70% atk and def to the rotation while also having an 80% dodge rate, so she'll be the most meta defining EZA of the batch.
>>1793925>>1793994its
84 (vs 77)
89 (vs 84)
94 (vs 91)
99 (vs 98)
sorta close to his numbers
>>1794003MOTHERFUCKER DID YOU LISTEN TO WHAT I SAID THE HIPPO DODGE DOES NOT STACK WITH THE PASSIVE DODGE
rebuked years ago. it does stack.
>>1793934based and truepilled
just need 400 more stones for pity.... will i make it bros...?
>>1794006Multiple passive conditions stack not HIPPO you fucking neanderthal
>>1794004yeah i calced them seperately are you slow.
77 proc chance -> fail -> 30 proc chance -> 84 dodge.
84 proc chance -> 30 proc chance -> 89 final dodge chance
>>1794006if it did stack for agl muis passive build up dodge first anons numbers are correct. It doesn't stack on start of turn dodge
>>1794007Fucking flashbang
>>1793969Every Omega was good except the Carnival.
>>1793987Ape Goku and Baby will have amazing kits because they're DoA being banned from half the game. Pan will be mediocre so as not to displace the new banner unit. LR Shadow Dragons will be shit because they're a Battlefield LR. Teq Syn will be amazing in slot 2 and eat shit from AoEs. Trunks is a complete wild card and agl Goku will be the best banner unit in the history of the game because I say so.