Thread 1864138

cute hades style roguelike waifu game
releases in less than 7 days

>>1864138 (OP)
its less than a week away bros, its time to market our game in other /vg/ gacha generals so drum up some interest so we dont EoS
you guys do /bag/ /lcg/ /e7g/ /alg/ /pcrg/ /akg/ /wuwa/ /gig/ /zzz/ and /hig/ ill do the rest.

>>1864138 (OP)
JP release is 20th, but they haven't announced a time
Wonder if its going to be simultaneous as global and also if they're getting their own server

>>1864161
It'll be simultaneous release. But they're really retarded to aim for that day and time, because it's fucking Monday on Japan(or other relevant country).

>a literal autobattler like star savior gets a pc release but not this
does yostar have something against pc players or something

this does have a pc client though schizo

>>1864138 (OP)
this shit will eos in 2 months
looks too high budget for the amount of interest

>>1864192
https://stellasora.global/
the main page doesn't show it anywhere except preregristation option, which seems dubious.
keep in mind that i also follow jp, don't tell me they're getting the short end of the stick again.

Some chad needs to take one for the team and make daily /v/ threads about it up to the release date so we can get a decent community

>>1864267
>daily /v/ threads
>decent community

>>1864321
you're right. I should go to /pol/ instead

>>1864321
better than the alternative of 90% /bag/ posters

>>1864192
>>1864250
there literally was a PC client in the beta, it actually was pretty well-made too, so unless they scrapped it last minute for some reason it should still release on PC

>>1864192
>>1864250
>>1864549
https://stellasora.global/news/1704
>The light-action fantasy adventure RPG, Stella Sora, developed by Yostar, has announced its global release on October 19 (UTC-7). The game will be available simultaneously on Android, iOS, and PC.

>>1864138 (OP)
How predatory will be the gacha system on release? Since I'm reading mixed opinions about it

>>1864796
if they doubled the gemmies as well then its okay, otherwise just wait for the first real event
judging from beta, you should be able to get all teams just with 4* (except for maybe rock) and those are decently strong

>>1864551
>October 19 (UTC-7)
What does this even mean why put a time zone and not a time

>>1865261
its 19:00 UTC -7, they had that somewhere else.
This announcement in JP just said the date too I think and for localization purposes they slap a time zone on everything

I'm looking closely at their designs, and why do they feel so good?
They actually look made by a japanese dev, not designs that you would expect from a chinese dev.

>>1865525
It's a real mixed bag, I'm a big fan of freesia here or whatever the name is but a lot of the other designs are just fucking schizo like Minerva

>>1864138 (OP)
Finally found someone to look forward to
I read that she's still not playable but considering she appears in the trailer and got this pic, I guess she will be soon in the next patches

Does it have panties or is it shit?

>>1865525
lmao, they feel exactly like stuff coming out of china.
Go back to previous threads and the thread on /vmg/ and you can see that many were dissing those designs, including me.
Delusional

>>1865791
They're definitely not that bad as you're making them out to be.

>>1865525
some factions look good, others are pretty meh

>>1865525
It's like they fed illustrations from cygames into an AI and this shit came out.

Sell me on this game
Also remember to make a general for it when it releases so we can talk about it

What's the gacha like? If it's a less than 1% rates 50/50 with weapon banners shitshow, i'm not even touching it.

>>1866945
Cute girls
There's already a general on /vg/

>>1866968
Anon, I...

>>1866996
Making generals for unreleased games should be a bannable offence.

>>1867019
Who cares. It was made recently and the game comes out soon anyway.

>>1866968
They can't even give you a shitty 4 star because they can't reach the 10 million preregistrations they wanted.

>>1867042
How many hours?

>>1867056
Like 36, lol

>cant login in with google because the app is limited

lol

>>1865525
iirc they picked up some BA artists or something, I'm just hoping there's consistent loli like that cute witch girl

Launching at 22:00 on a sunday night is one hell of a weird choice.

any news on rerolling? they had a CBT didnt they?

>>1865525
because chinks are obsessed with overdesigning characters with ornaments and accessories
these are somewhat okay

>>1867820
you get 20 tries to reroll on standard banner to try to get what you want

>>1867896
Crazy that current year games still make it a bother to reroll.

Why isn't this shit on steam?

>/v/ thread deleted
?

>>1868004
https://www.reddit.com/r/StellaSora/comments/1oa5v5v/predownload_files_hint_at_a_steam_version_in/
Its coming later

the rates and dupes system is a big no for me. hope you guys enjoy the game though.

What fucking retards, why are there 2 names for the characters.

>>1868072
they couldn’t decide if they want to use the english translation or japanese name, so they went with both

>>1868073
Jesus christ that just makes shit confusing.

The gameplay is better than I was imagining

>MC has amnesia
of course they do.

i dont like either design

>>1868132
I look like this

>the gacha is expensive
It's over

So....what's the first impression so far? Can it kill BA?

>>1868170
I think so

>>1868171
:/ I wish there were actually side boob

>>1868170
it has too many mechanics for the average gachatard so probably not

>>1868170
No idea how BA is in terms of its gacha but god, Stella Sora really went overboard.
It definitely feels stingy, unfortunately. I'm already seeing opinions about it across regions. Even the japanese are saying it.

>>1868170
pull economy was already terrible in the CBT and it didn't change in release. On the other hand, they -doubled- the pull price.
If you compare to Hoyo games, the paid shop is about 30% more expensive per pull.
Permanent 50/50 (If you lose the 50/50, you can still lose it again), up until a spark at 120 (160 for dupes, doesn't reset from 120... but you need multiple dupes to unlock one lol).

But it is 2% rates instead of hoyo's 0.6%

How much of a difference do the discs make?

>>1868237
No carry over between banners is a massive deal breaker. In a sense what they are doing is far worse than the usual mihoyo system.

Tried it, it's okay, really middling. Can't find any reason to keep playing, especially since pick between three things game are the most prevalent of them all. I can just fucking play Hades instead and not have daily homework.

Dropped. Very mid game, despite the polish.
It's not even the rates, because I play Wizardry. Game just does not have the depth to make multiple runs interesting and not repetitive, it's the same issue CZN has as well.

harmony skill from discs seems hard to get from an average run, and aren't gamebreaking either like some potentials

Wow they kept the gay random roguelike card upgrades.
Don't they know that shit gets extremely old after 5-10 runs?

They keep giving me the pink nun 5x in the beginner roll so I guess I'll use her..

Is it the norm to have this sort of dupe mechanics in gacha these days? I don't really like the whole locking skill/ult upgrades behind dupes.

>>1868383
don't think skills are locked behind dupes? even the discs (signature weapon) seems to be flat % boost

>>1868386
Sorry, I mistook the conditional buffs you get from dupes as skills upgrades. Still kinda meh but not as bad. Just wish the game currencies wasn't so expensive since I don't want to spend 600 dollars a month like I did in past gachas anymore.

i think it depends on what kind of events/future updates we get that make use of our kits and whether or not they give us things to work towards.
games like genshin and blue archive stagnate once you hit max level since they never add anything new. there's no progression since launch in either game, you're just puling new characters to replace your old characters so you can do the same thing you were doing since day one.
on the other hand cygames tend to keep adding more and more stuff so there's always something to look forward to and want to prepare for.
i imagine it'll take the genshin/ba route and be a worthless game but i hope not. i'll definitely send feedback about this
>>1868338
what? wizardry has a 5% rate

>bp skin doesn't change the in-game model, so is just a pic
Come on, this can't be real.
Jesus, what a disappointment this game is.

>>1868549
gotta be a bug, they can’t be that retarded

>>1868426
whats with gachaniggers and wanting their game to be a second job

>>1868599
there's literally a "2D" tag on the skin banner, I think they unironically sold a menu wallpaper as a skin

>>1868694
i didn't say that. priconne wasn't a second job yet it kept adding new shit.

>>1868720
Oh it absolutely was during clan battle shit

>>1868729
at least you can still let it play itself, unlike other games

Is this accurate? Are we looking at a year f2p to build for a single banner pity? 2 years for character + disc?

>>1868729
okay but clan battle didn't need to be designed like that, and the point was about all the other content to progress your characters anyway. i just don't want what we have now to be what we have in five years just with new characters we have to pull to keep up with powercreep.
>>1868759
no posts about a game's economy are worth paying attention to until we've actually seen what income looks like over a month or two at least.

>>1868759
No, because I already deleted it
I don't have time to wait if they change anything or not

seems like for 4* supports at least, better off only choosing potentials that buff your main or proc the marks for their specific elements

>hey you can play any character as support OR vanguard :D
>but actually you're a retarded if you play a support character as vanguard or vise versa

Why even make it possible then?

>>1868798
>no posts about a game's economy are worth paying attention to until we've actually seen what income looks like over a month or two at least.

First impression are everything. There's no way the company is this incompetent about how information spreads around. How many thousands have passed up or uninstalled the game over this shit already?

If they're committing to this shit, they mean it.

>>1868894
haven't tried 4* as vanguard yet, some of the 5* i tried as support has unique kits
chixia support turn into minion spams, mistique with some specific potentials has a homing aoe vacuum

>>1868897
They fucked up hard, when people dropped the game because of first impression they rarely, if ever pick it up again even if the devs backpedaling hard and implementing all kind of change. Not to mention the very fierce competitors are coming out soon. I had no hope for Yostar after all the blunders they commit recently but this is a new low.

>Beta was 150 per pull
>Now 300
You gotta actually be fucking kidding me

>>1864138 (OP)
this must be an experiment to see how much shit gacha gamer are willing to put up with

then they sell the info to other companies

if not, they are fucking retarded of the highest caliber

>>1868953
Maybe we've been underestimating leviathans. Shitty insanely expensive wine often sells simply thanks just to having an absurdly high price tag.

The super rich are high-grade retards of imaginable and mysterious power.

>>1868897
i'm not going to bother having this conversation with you because i had the same conversation a thousand times about another game a few months ago and it turned out to have a perfectly fine economy

You got xim

>>1868987
Has it ever occurred to you that the reason said game fixed it's economy is only because the player base freaked out?

If you're complacent and suck the cock of greedy fucking devs they're only going to get greedier.

Is it worth it? I'm downloading

>>1869072
Worth a few hours of rerolling and playing till you get cockblocked by stamina, maybe.

>>1869072
Not particularly until they fix the currency at the very least.

>>1869093
I'm at 3GB, do I cancel the download?

>>1869096
Pull cost and a lot of the grind was on par with most gacha during beta and then it was all doubled for launch.
As it stands now unless they start just giving out pulls like candy OR backpedal it's not gonna be worth it.

30 more rolls to spark chitose, also is there a second selector?

>>1869140
day 5 login reward

>>1869140
How much did you spend?

>>1869146
oh, does the beginner roll count as the first "selector"?
>>1869147
40usd

i didn't realize i had nearly 50 standard rolls until i got the 10 in the mail
only got the disgusting nun creature from them unfortunately

>>1869140
got her at 110, might as well spark her when i get enough rolls later

>>1868426
>5% rate
Rates aren't everything, it's all about the general pull economy and Wizardry gives you barely any pulls.

>>1868426
>cygames tend to keep adding more and more stuff
like?

>>1870289
i'm aware it's about general pull economy and i don't agree. just like every other gacha it's a game where people felt bad at launch but if you actually play the game you can get plenty of characters even as f2p. stella sora will almost certainly be the same, since it's the exact same thing with every fucking game.

>>1870483
*when starting, not at launch

hasn't it been 24 hours yet

>>1870483
I disagree, I'm going to talk about both games since I don't get if you're just talking about Stella here.
First, about Wizardry, it's a bit of a different case since the game is fully beatable with nameless 3* goons. You do get a fair bit of pulls if you consistently farm every bone spot every month, but that's still only "standard banner" characters.
IF you want a limited character, you're going to get one every 7ish months if you save up a spark.

About Stella, that's actually the opposite feeling people tend to get from new gacha. The term "honeymoon phase" exists because you do tend to get a lot of pulls early and then it dwindles down as you complete content.
Stella even in its honeymoon phase has a drought of pulls, which is crazy. The drought mainly exists because they -doubled- the pull price without increasing rewards, it didn't feel like this in the beta test.

lmao a summer event already
guess the game was delayed from their initial target

Not only is this game shit and it has awful designs, the leaderboards are purely hacked because they can't even make program a fucking live service game LMAO

So, how's the JP livestream? Did the dev promise to fix the game?

>>1864138 (OP)
I feel insanely insulted at seeing someone compare this with Hades given that there's zero roguelite events in this shit.

>>1872828
>Did the dev promise to fix the game?
No, they just announced a summer event instead. Some free rolls and paid summer outfits so now everyone's slurping the shit out of it and praising yostar because it's yostar and yostar always delivers.

If you were ever expecting for anything to get fixed, I'd say to curb your expectations since yostar seems pretty good at tardwrangling and squeezing money out of idiots.

>>1867832
I think they're overcompensating for something when designing characters, like trying to show how unique chink anime style is by adding numerous stuff that doesn't even make sense. Even in a moba game I play each asian characters released have soo many ornaments, leaves, waves, dragons in their clothes I roll my eyes with how obvious what they're doing.

>>1872852
Just like stories and up bloated because writers get paid by the character count, art gets "bloated" because the artists obviously also get paid by how much they work.
Sometimes you can say simple is best, but.. you know.

Tried it out today since I'm not playing much else nowadays, was very very pleasantly surprised
Definitely very high quality and pretty fun gameplay (by gacha standards), if anything the music theme is neat
I understand it's an extremely Jewy game, but SURELY a big company like Yostar isn't gonna fuck it up in the long run right?

>>1872857
Her dress looks pretty simple actually just that there's alot of details in the background and colors. What I was referring to was more like picrel type of designs

>>1872885
they’re not going to change the price for packs or reduced pull costs back to beta like people want. think they’re going for giving enough pulls every event to shut people up. i’m fine if they hand put enough to spark every two months.

>>1873028
I'm generally not very well versed in gacha lore, but didn't they also make Azur Lane and Blue Archive?
From what I gather, they're both hugely popular games so surely they must not have some notoriously cut-throat monetisation aimed at short term earnings over growing the game over time

>>1873033
>didn't they also make Azur Lane and Blue Archive?
nah, yostar is the publisher for those games. stella sora is their very first in house developed game.

>>1872894
I dunno this looks the same. Both have multiple accessories, both have multiple colors. I'd say the thing I posted is even more busy due to the weapon and such.

>>1873039
Ah welp
Still, I figure monetisation and business model are things set by the publisher so at least they have plenty of positive experience there; the actual game dev part is pretty good, only disappointment so far is the skins (which seems a bit of an odd thing not to include) but I don't plan to paypiggy for those so maybe I don't care

Did they already fix the monetization? I'm ready to hop back again.

>>1873098
really doubt they’ll touch gem packs and reducing pull costs

>>1873098
Unless the game is flopping hard to the verge of EOS they will never fix that shit since they will have to refund people who already spent money.

>>1864138 (OP)
Get woke, get greedy, go broke

thanks freesia