Literally the most piece of shit bullshit ass "challenge" ever conceived by Game Freak

>>57984516 (OP)
did lucians 'zong wall you, diamond-kun?

>>57984520
1-2 punch of Mr Mime Thunderbolt and Alakazam Focus Blast did me in...

Better than Hoenn's E4 tbdesu

>>57984516 (OP)
I don't get it, where they too hard or something?

>>57984531
nice

>>57984516 (OP)
Post team nigga

>>57984516 (OP)
>why yes I am retarded and wasted exp on training 6 pokemon evenly the whole game while simultaneously not understanding how items work, how could you tell?

>>57984545
I'm able to get by the first three relatively casualty-free now but Lucian is buttfucking the shit out of me.
Basically the only answer I have for his mons is Honchkrow or Infernape with Shadow Claw, and obviously the latter gets fucked hard no matter what while his team seems tailor made to counter Honchkrow and Drifloon.

>>57984558
I didnt have any trouble with him. Carver will solo Cynthia

>>57984558
>Firion
Like the FF2 protag?

>>57984569
maybe if the ai is extra retarded

>>57984516 (OP)
Huh? What are you talking about?

>>57984625
Wood hammer and blizzard will kill everything but Lucario, just teach it EQ and you’re good. Spiritomb is the only one not weak to those and it sucks.

>Make a fire type Elite 4 member
>When there are literally only 2 fire types available before the post game
What were they thinking?

>>57984516 (OP)
This is the only E4 that’s remotely a challenge so it’s a good thing

>>57984648
>"we're gonna make the most pain in the ass E4 member that you can't just sweep with a single mon"

>>57984640
how is she outspeeding anything, especially 10 levels lower?

>>57984653
Well that’s on the trainer

>>57984516 (OP)
>Aaron's Drapion throwing you off by not being a bug type
>Bertha's Hippowdon OHKOing your best pokemon
>Flint's Infernape finishing off your mons with mach punch
>Lucian's Bronzong being unkillable behind Mr. Mime's reflect
DP had the hardest E4. Platinum nerfed them too hard.

>>57984648
So that you don't simply solo him with a Ground/Rock/Water type

>>57984648
>"let's try something new and interesting instead of making red man use red pokemon only"

>>57984667
What's really nerfed besides having to grind 2 extra hours to match their levels? I think their updated teams and AI make Platimum's harder.

It's so hard to be an honest gamer I'll be real

>>57984516 (OP)
I get overdesigning is bad, but I take it over an entire E4 looking like nameless background extras

>>57984667
>Drapion throwing you off
I'll accept this, but only if it's your first time encountering the line.
>Hippowdon OHKOing your best pokemon
You choose the mons you send out.
>Infernape finishing off your mons
See Hippowdon.
>Bronzong being unkillable
Just because you can't UNGA BUNGA doesn't mean you can't kill it.

>>57984648
>"Shit! We cut Heatran's pre-evos and evo dev's autism demanded most of them to be locked behind the postgame. What do we do?"
>"Get creative or you're FIRED!"

remember that people like OP are who you share the board with whenever you see someone screeching about XY being too easy or forced exp share being bad

>>57984701
>send out a grass type to sponge the earthquake or a water type to hit it hard
>Hippowdon's fatass tanks that shit
>"Hippowdon used fissure! It's a one-hit KO!"
Bertha's Hippowdon is a beginner's trap

>>57984691
Filling out e4 rosters with filler because there was nothing else available isn't new.

>>57984713
Alright alright, you're mad you didn't get a reply the first time. Here's your (You) little bitch.

>>57984713
This thread is depressing.

>>57984713
you already posted something about equally leveling up 6 team members itt, yawnie

>>57984734
>flint if he hoenn

>>57984694
>besides having to grind 2 extra hours to match their levels?
That's kinda it. In DP, your mons are significantly weaker and you don't have the luxury of elemental punches for coverage. In Platinum, your mons are strong enough to OHKO all of their pokemon. They don't really get to fight back.

>>57984558
Level up you dumb cunt.

this nigger is literally losing to a children's game

>>57984788
I've done every single piece of optional content in the game besides Contests and haven't used a single repel, if I have to grind more beyond that then the game's just badly designed.
I'd rather grind Heart Scales and Game Corner to see if I can make some better movesets out of these guys since the HMs are admittedly gimping them a bit.

>>57984820
No way you did every trainer battle.
Even then, just a while in Victory Road should do the trick.

>>57984820
well there's your problem, being burdened by hms. levels don't really matter, but having decent movesets is vital.

>>57984820
Use the VS Seeker

>>57984820
>I've done every single piece of optional content in the game

>>57985093

>>57984648
>one of those two fire types is the fucking starter line
>the other is a gen 1 pokemon
>a random E4 member has to use the current gen fire starter as his ace, the first time an E4 member has ever used a starter (in their role as Elite 4 at least)
>his design also has almost nothing in common with his first ace Infernape, but shares its palette with Magmortar, a postgame fire type who becomes his ace in every rematch
Every excuse is cope. DP got mangled in its rushed development and it shows in the quality of the product.

>>57984558
That's a cool team.

>>57985265
I'm happy with it but I kinda regret Lopunny.
Was hoping it'd be more Zangoose-esque where it's a Return machine glass cannon but it seems like it's made exclusively for Agility/Baton Pass.

>>57984516 (OP)
You got clowned on, didn't you.

>>57984695
OHNONONONONONONONONO

>>57985161
>but shares its palette with Magmortar, a postgame fire type who becomes his ace in every rematch
why didn't they just.. give him magmortar? sure it's postgame but at the same time these are the last fights of the campaign, there's nothing wrong with a postgame mon or two in the final bosses

>>57985394
It'd be weird to see a national dex mon before you can register it.

>>57985161
>you can't just use the starter!
>you can't just not dress like your ace!
Autism.

>>57984569
Okay.

>>57985408
>poor reading comprehension
Retardation.

>>57984605
I was gonna ask the same thing. Kino name.

>>57984535
Hoenn's Elite Four at least had memorable designs. 3 of these are derivative of earlier trainers.

>>57984516 (OP)
>>57987166
>Agatha (forme de Ground)
>Ronald McDonald
>Yet another psychic fag in a suit
>Bugsy's boyfriend
What were they THINKING?

>>57987172
They didn't even bother to change the typing when they edited Will.

it's over
i will never be a pokemon master
akiraime...

>>57987193
based 'don

>>57985354
Needs Fake Out for that (and STAB for Jump Kick).

>>57987193
Rip. Shoulda used Seviper.

>>57987193
>Diamond
Why not "Lucas"? Also, RIP.

>>57985357
Heh.

>>57987557
Lucas is the name of the NPC.
In PLA you're also not Rei or Akari as the player character.

>>57984704
CARLOS!

>>57985777
THE DRAGON CLAIMS ANOTHER VICTIM

>>57987557
pokespe name

>>57989613
Okay, why not "Dawn"? Point is; if you're going to use a default name, why not one less awkward?

>>57989634
Should be Platinum/Platina, in that case.

>>57989773
>Dawn
That's the girl's name you retard

>>57989773
op dont said he was playing as the female, groomer rat

>>57989777
You are not making sense.
>>57989779
You are an idiot.

>>57984558
>venat
like ff14 venat? why a snail?

>>57989788
why would he name male character dawn or platina? what is this advanced grooming technique

>>57989788
>You are not making sense.
What are you talking about, it's literally the girl character's official name,

>>57984535
Hoenn PP draining, status, interferences and weather chip damage were more impactful than a bunch of set up mons DP had.
Platinum saved Sinnoh with the rematch teams.

>>57984695
Reminder Lopunny is no better than the regional early route rodents, it's only fast.
Even with coverage her shitty stats make it so full powered Return hits just as hard.

>>57989829
You're autism is showing. It's not that deep.

>>57984516 (OP)
I beat them first try when I was 14, how are you having trouble with this?

>>57989861
>You're right but uuuh I don't like that so ignore that
Shut up retard

>>57989907
The irony eludes you.

>>57989868
OP is retarded and wasted exp on training 6 pokemon perfectly evenly from the very beginning of the game, even pokemon he ended up ditching, despite every mechanic in the game actively discouraging you from doing so
OP is retarded and doesn’t understand how potions/revives work
OP is retarded and doesn’t understand how x items work
OP is retarded and doesn’t understand how status moves work
OP is retarded and thinks you need to use super effective moves to deal damage so he wastes turns switching to suboptimal pokemon

In other words, OP is just your average campaignshitter

>>57990103
Dawn is a girl's name anon no matter how much you refuse to address this fact

>>57990117
We are not claiming otherwise. You are making a strawman. Either so you can pretend to be retarded or because you are a genuine retard. Either way, you don't deserve any more replies.

>>57990132
>we
Yeah sure lmao
You suggested to name the male MC Dawn you stupid fuck

>>57990143
Are you even the OP or do you just want to make him look worse?

>>57989816
Idk, I needed a name for Gastrodon and since it was a girl I just chose something that came to mind first that I hadn't already used in prior games.
Plus it sorta ended up working out in a cool way I think.
>>57989847
Yeah it's probably my biggest regret of this team.
Feel like I was too blinded by her design and honestly the team didn't even really come together aesthetically like how I'd hoped, too many dopey-looking mons.

>>57984734
Kek they actually let fire pokemon learn solarbeam in Gen 4? What a shitshow

>>57990483
All except for Flareon.

>>57990114
>campaignshitter
Post ELO now or this whole post goes into the trash you fraud bitch.

>>57990152
Why do you think I'm OP, I'm just calling out your retardation for wanting to call the male MC Dawn, I don't need to be OP for that

>>57990114
I am actively refusing to use potions and revives in battle yea lol
I'm also only saving at PokeCenters so Im doing the E4 each time I wanna retry Cynthia

>>57984652
>>57984681
they should've given him some non-shitmons then

>>57990530
>I am actively refusing to use potions and revives in battle yea lol
Only way to play, ignore him.

>>57990588
This. You have to maintain the lie that gen 4 is challenging. It's the only cope I have left.

>>57990596
lmfao take your meds yawnnoid

>>57990596
An adult spamming cheat items in a kid's game is shameful, and stop ban evading you freak.

>>57990600
>An adult spamming cheat items in a kid's game is shameful,
More shameful than actively losing at a kid's game and pretending it's hard?

>>57990603

>>57990529
OP implied he was playing as Dawn with >>57989613. Even if not, that is clearly the implication >>57989773 made and others understood that. Making this about trannies/groomers was -your- mistake. Idiot.

>>57989817
See >>57990799.

>>57990806
>>57990799
op didnt make that post, that post doesn't imply the op picked dawn at all, and you can see in his previous threads he picked the male mc, stupid faggot

>>57990812
>you can see in his previous threads
Keyword here being previous.
>doesn't imply the op picked dawn at all
It's still easy to tell that's what >>57989773 meant. Idiot.

>>57990812
>op didnt make that post
Why did you answer a question meant for the OP?

>>57990799
>OP implied he was playing as Dawn
No he fucking didn't you dumb fuck, he said he didn't want to name his character Lucas because that's the canon name for the rival characters when you pick Dawn
That means he's playing the male character you moron

>>57990849
>op didnt make that post
Make up your mind.

>>57990849
That makes no sense.

>>57990860
You're fucking stupid mate

>>57990899
>you should be able to understand my nonsense
No. You should stop being literally autistic.

>>57990923
The irony
You're the autist who didn't understand the post because OP didn't spell out for you that he's playing as male MC when it was 100% clear from the context

>>57990942
>it was 100% clear from the context
1. It's not.
2. Your stupid "reason" made it worse.
3. You can't give shit to others about not understanding context when you completely misunderstood >>57989773.

>>57990596
I played Gens 1-3 like this too.
I actually think Gen 3 was harder during the rest of the game but the Elite Four in 4 is a big difficulty spike and much harder than everything previously except Red.

>>57990961
It is, you're really stupid if you don't understand, simple as

my final gambit
if you don't hear from me again just assume cynthia ate me up and shat me out

>>57987193
Good names but why is Gastro called Venat

>>57991651
Save Bronzong for Chomp. Only brick break can dent it.

>>57991651
Can you post movesets? Why are you having a hard time?

Easy game actually absolutely 0 issues.

>>57991904
I would have actually gotten it the first time I put Trick Room on Bronzong but I forgot to take Choice Specs from Gastrodon from when I fought Flint so I couldn't Ice Beam the Garchomp and it kinda snowballed from there.
But I got it now with minimal issues, probably would have gone better overall if Lopunny was anything but switch fodder.

>>57992724
trick room to kill garchomp is based

>>57992724
Nice work mate, good Kino shit.

>>57984648
Unironically soul

>>57985357
Kek

>>57992724
Absolute soul. Thunderbolt on Lopunny is weird. Is there no tutor on Diamond/Pearl for elemental punches? Other than that, the sets are solid. The only real threat is the Garchomp but Zong can chip at it for a while, with Abomasnow there if the shark managed to kill it.

Post if you beat her

>>57992858
nigga read 5 posts above yours

>>57990483
fire types should be allowed to weaponize that giant ball of fire in the sky

>>57992717
your gastrodon is the wrong color

>>57992858
>Thunderbolt on Lopunny is weird
If OP had just leveled up Lopunny one more time she would have Healing Wish and would have been a huge help.

>>57992717
>>57992724
>>57992858
BASED

WILL YOU FEED CYNTHIA TO GASTRODON NOW OR WYAT HAHA

Shhhhhhhhhh…. Its okay, I forgive you. Afterall, you’re going to make up for it.” Gastrodon said with a menacing smile.
“Gastrodon don’t!!!!!” screamed Cynthia.
“You’re going to love it~!” Gastrodon said in a scary cute way before unhinging her jaw wide.
“No!!!!!!” Cynthia screamed.
Homph
Cynthia’s head and shoulders were already in the throat thanks to Gastrodon’s flexible body.
Ulp
One gulp just pulled Cynthia’s entire upper body down to her belly. As Cynthia was dragged down, she felt and heard something around her.
Riiiiiiip rip rip
Cytnhia realized that the walls were covered in prickle-like teeth that while just lightly scratching Cynthia’s skin, it tore through her clothes. Cynthia now had her C-cups out just jiggling as the clothing either stuck to the teeth or fell into the stomach.
“Helllllp!!!!” Cynthia shouted out to Spiritomb which failed.
Ulp
Another gulp sent most of the bottom half down where the teeth ripped the pants to pieces with the pink panties around Cynthia’s 31 hips to be intact. All that remained were her feet which could not even wiggle from the poison.
Ulp
Just like that, the whole body was sent to the stomach which bloated to the size of a Torkoal. Cynthia was forced to curl up into a ball and could only weep with the walls being so tight. Gastrodon began tasting her fingers before she got confirmation she was in a belly.
Uwwwwwwwaaaaarrrrrrp
Shredded clothing was launched out like confetti and one of Cynthia’s hair clips came out.

>>57984605
>>57987557
>>57991717
OP refuses to answer questions about names... except for >>57989816, for some reason.

>>57992717
I always believed in you.

>>57995446
Lol sorry
Firion is the hero of FF2 yes.
Alena comes from Dragon Quest 4
Venat is FF14 and it works since there's two Shellos forms and I got to name the second after her counterpart from that game.
Quaser is just an intentional misspelling of Quasar in the same way Venat is a misspelling of Venus.
DeRosso is the vampire from Bravely Default.
Carver is from wood carver.

Diamond is because every previous protagonist has been named after the initial game so why not here too? Lucas can just be the alt timeline version of the male MC that works for the professor.

>>57995466
>Diamond is because every previous protagonist has been named after the initial game so why not here too?
You should have answered that sooner instead of letting the thread derail.

I wanna play Platinum but I don't have a good answer against Cynthia's Garchomp

>>57996466
are you already in a playthrough?
froslass and weavile both outspeed it
mamoswine and abomasnow learn ice shard normally
move tutor offers ice punch and you can get ice beam tms from the gamecorner easily

>>57996647
Does lvl 50s Abomasnow one hit ko garchomp with ice shard?

>>57996466
use the universal pokemon randomizer to fix trade evos so you can have a porygon-z and teach him ice beam

>>57996654
unfortunately no

>>57989847
Gen 4 filler mon were actually really strong. Bibarel and Staraptor can both keep up with you for the entire game with no issues.

>>57996466
Platinum Chomp is piss easy. You just use a water type and ice beam it since you now have the levels and stats to take a hit (two if you switch into a resisted flamethrower) and OHKO back. Weavile also now consistently shits on Chomp since it can easily learn ice punch in Plat.

>>57997078
there should have been a normal type e4 to let some important trainer use Porygon-Z

>>57997078
Staraptor is crazy good with 120 Attack and 100 Speed
About the only thing you'll find better in DPPt for a fast physical attacker is, well, Garchomp.
It's a shame it can't learn Shadow Claw though, but it gets Close Combat so I can't complain.