Thread 11829079

>The OG Xbox launched with 20 games
>11 of which were exclusives or timed
How did anyone get baited into buying a console made by a software company with zero track record in the industry and barely any gaymes?

>>11829079 (OP)
Damn that's a good launch line up. God help the other console that launched in fall 2001.

the idea of new consoles was still cool and interesting back then, unlike nowadays where they're all basically powerful smart phones with the exact same inputs and capabilities.

>>11829079 (OP)
it got racing and sports games (I put here extreme sports game too) that are key part in videoconsoles, at least in retro era.

That is the main reason

>>11829079 (OP)
Halo was enough, also I remember JSRF came out close to launch (*in Ausland). With those titles you're gucci.

>>11829079 (OP)
I got one for Christmas of 2002 because my best friend and neighbor had one, and I'd go to his house and play Dead or Alive 3, Fuzion Frenzy, Halo, Jet Set Radio Future and Mechassault.
He was also a massive Sega fan so he had a Dreamcast and an Xbox for all the Sega titles released on it, and since I was at his house almost every day, I ended up enjoying those titles as well.
I pretty much liked every system that gen.

>>11829079 (OP)
Halo was all over the place in EB games/Sears type places, and for the unwashed console masses not really familiar with UT or Quake it felt like staggering jump in presentation.

>>11829147
Looking back, this is pretty impressive

>>11829079 (OP)
MS was a behemoth software company, they have made major games before like Age of Empires or Flight Simulator. They had some experience.
They bought established studios like Rare and Bungie. Had support from studios such as Sega and Tecmo early on.
Of course people could trust them when they had kind of unlimited financial resources and a giant brand name. MS even wanted to buy Sega, Nintendo, EA, Square and Midway back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nscxD4wJ70Y

>>11829079 (OP)
If a console has good games you buy it, it's as simple as that

>>11829147
Pretty good actually. I wonder what PS2 had in that same compilation image form.

>>11829079 (OP)
>a software company with zero track record in the industry
Why do you lie so much?

>>11829192
but maybe a bit more from march 2000 to march 2001.

>>11829079 (OP)
The answer is in your picture, it was Halo.

Xbox as also the most powerful one, it allowed you to play PC ports which the other consoles could not do (it basically was a PC you plugged into your TV). At the time technology was limited and Console gaming was decidedly different than PC gaming and PC gaming was expensive. The Xbox brought a new and popular experience to console, online FPS multiplayer and did what it's competitors couldn't. This was also a bad thing that set in motion the decline of gaming leading to endless cowadoody slop and culminating in a complete homogenization of everything into shit like Fortnite, etc.

>>11829303
Yeah I think a little bit more till march 2001 and a whole lot of stuff until the end of 2001.

>>11829079 (OP)
Holy shit that list is absolutely dire aside from Halo

>>11829079 (OP)
>zero track record in the industry
>microsoft
kill zoomers, behead zoomers, roundhouse kick zoomers into the concrete, slam dunk a zoomer baby into the trash can, crucify filthy zoomers, defecate into zoomers food, launch zoomers into the sun, stir fry zoomers in a wok, toss zoomers into active volcanoes, urinate into zoomers’s gas tanks, judo throw zoomers into a wood chipper, twist zoomers heads off, report zoomers to the irs, karate chop zoomers in half, curb stomp pregnant zoomers, trap zoomers in quicksand, crush zoomers in the trash compactor, liquify zoomers in a vat of acid, eat zoomers, dissect zoomers, stomp zoomer skulls with steel-toed boots, cremate zoomers in the oven, lobotomize zoomers, mandatory abortions for zoomers, grind zoomer fetuses in the garbage disposal, drown zoomers in fried chicken grease, vaporize zoomers with a raygun, kick old zoomers down the stairs, feed zoomers to alligators, slice zoomers with a katana

>>11829736
>Aside from Halo
But it DID launch with Halo you weird cunt.

Maybe you're a zoomie but I'll bite:
>Fusion Frenzy
Highly beloved then and now. Great party game
>DOA3
Self explanatory. Hot chicks, good mechanics and amazing graphics.
>Tony Hawk 2x
A better looking and expanded version of a game people already loved.
>Munch's Oddysee
Shit game but the public didn't know that yet. Oddworld was still coasting on the strength of the PS1 games, so many people wanted to play its newest 3D entry.

Pretty good launch lineup all things considered.

>>11829079 (OP)
Buying a console at launch has always been and will always be a scam. The Xbox became worth it later for shit like xbox live and playing multiplatform games since it was 99% of the time the best version.

>>11829079 (OP)
Have you looked at the ps2 launch titles faggot? Xbox had one of the best launch games it's not even up for debate

>>11829079 (OP)
>How did anyone get baited into buying a console made by a software company with zero track record in the industry and barely any gaymes?
>this is what nintendies and sonyggers ACTUALLY believe

>>11829079 (OP)
halo is the only one of those worth playing

>>11829767
>>11829839
lol. Lmao, even.

Shrek was pure kino. The Gamecube demake can't compare

>>11830291
5, maybe 6 worth playing out of 29. Not bad really. Better than Xbox with literally only Halo worth playing

>>11829736
I see
>Halo
>Project Gotham
>Dead or Alive 3
>Tony Hawk 2x
That covers some staple genres given it's 2001

>>11830353
DOA3 was the biggest game at launch, Halo was the surprise.

>>11830372
cool revisionist history

>>11830379
Thanks faggot.

>>11830383
anytime :)

>>11830291
I didn't say the Xbox's launch was better than the PS2's. I said the Xbox launch lineup was "pretty good all things considered". Why are you being snippy like a little Reddit woman? Is it because you're mad I was there on Day 1 for both consoles unlike you?

>>11829079 (OP)
Too much racing and sports slop. The Xbox should have launched with a ton of shooters but it only had Halo.

>>11830681
correct, i wasn't there on day one I was busy playing my ps1/n64 while you bought a full priced console with barely any games. I then got it for cheaper one year later with a fantastic lineup. Congratulation, champ, you truly are the victor.

>>11831352
>ps1/n64
>in late 2001
poorfag or larping zoomie?

Another "I can't possibly comprehend how anyone could ever buy a non-Nintendo console" thread. Top quality.

>>11830691
>slop slop slop slop slop slop slop
Add an H in there and you're a dog drinking water

>>11830372
DoA3 was actually supposed to be the killer launch app. I think there was also some hype behind Halo years before it got released.

>>11831356
Another projecting zoomer. The PS1 outsold the XBOX and GameCube (combined!) for 2 or 3 years. Just like because the Switch 2 is out, doesn't mean people have stopped buying the Switch 1.

>>11831356
are you retarded? they were the previous gen, what else did you want me to have?

>>11831364
by late 2001 anyone who liked the ps1 had a ps2 unless they were poor, zoomer.
>b-b-but modern consoles
are barely a leap, with plenty of cross-gen titles to disincentivize early adoption. this slow rollout of new consoles is a new phenomenon, zoom zoom.

>>11829736
IT HAD SHREK FUCK YOU

>>11831365
PS2 had been out for a year at that point, so if you were still on PS1, you were poor.
that or you're making the whole thing up because you're a zoomer who wasn't there.

>>11831375
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO MY PERSONAL SITUATION HAD TO BE UNIVERSAL OR ELSE! ALL PS2 150 MILLION UNITS WERE SOLD BEFORE 2002!
Super tired of posts like these. Fatigued, even.

>>11831380
I literally said in my post I didn't buy it on day one because it's stupid given the limited library. By waiting i get it for cheaper with a bunch of great games. fucking retarded nigger.

>>11829079 (OP)
I had Halo, Shrek, and Munch's Oddysee when I got it. Got obsessed with Halo and largely ignored the others. I imagine a lot of people had similar experiences.

>>11831380
>or you're making the whole thing up because you're a zoomer who wasn't there
I accept your future concession

>>11831382
the PS2 sold like hotcakes. Everybody who wasn't poor had one by the end of 2001. you only think you can play this card because you were not there and you do not know what it was like.
>>11831392
exposed for larping zoomer.
even people who weren't impressed by the launch library picked up a ps2 within the first year because it was one of the best-value DVD players on the market at the time.

>>11831402
>exposed for larping zoomer.
I accept your concession as well >>11831402l.

>>11831402
>check out the stuff I bought off eBay within the last ten years
okay?

>>11831413
>you- you're a zoomer!!! you only play fornite and browse tiktok!!!!
>hum acktually you randomly bought junk from the 90s off ebay
I already accepted your concession

>>11831425
>poster on /vr/ acting like being a collectorfag is completely unheard of
whatever you say, zoom zoom

>>11831447
>Obvious /v/ plant acting like he belongs on /vr/ bringing /v/-tier discourse with him

>>11831450
I've never once posted on /v/, so I have no idea what you're even trying to say or to criticize
it's obvious from the things you say that you weren't there in 2001, and posting a picture of some old consoles literally means nothing on a board where people routinely discuss obtaining/collecting old consoles. I'm not sure what you thought that image was gonna do for you.
Basically you're not that bright, almost as though your brain still has some developing to do. Because brother, if youre pushing 40 and still too dumb to realize nothing short of an original receipt is gonna prove you owned those consoles in 2001, you've got much, much bigger problems than winning some dumb 4chan argument

>>11831459
>obtaining/collecting old consoles
do they also discuss collecting crappy digital pianos and dbz/star wars cards in shitty conditions? How about my books? I can keep going.
>nothing short of an original receipt
already moving the goalpost, are we?
>I've never once posted on /v/
yes you do, else you wouldn't be such a pathetic loser.

>>11831487
>moving the goalpost
that's where the goalpost always was, retard. a picture of old consoles in 2025 only proves that you have the old consoles on 2025. it doesn't and will never prove that you owned them in 2001.
Holy fuck you're retarded.
>anyway look at these pics of my dad's old shit from the 80s and 90s
okay?

>>11831494
Show us your current PS2 in 2025, anon.

>>11831501
I sold that shit years ago. What is this argument? Are you retarded?

>>11831494
>that's where the goalpost always was
no, you kept calling me a larping zoomer >>11831406
>>11831380
then got embarrassed after being proven wrong so you kept quadrupling down. I can only accept your concession so many times before you start looking like a total mongrel.

>>11831494
also you say nothing short of a receipt but everybody on the face of earth know you will simply say it's a receipt from my "dad" because you're a sore loser and a pathetic little man.

>>11831509
Curiousness intensifies!

>>11831510
>>11831517
I applaud your abilities as a creative fiction writer.
>>11831518
Sure, if you're completely retarded!

>>11831510
>you kept calling me a larping zoomer
Being a larping zoomer and owning old consoles aren't mutually exclusive, though? Your critical thinking skills- rather, complete lack thereof- definitely make you seem very young.

>>11831519
So let me understand this thing right, you get to demand that other anon to build a time machine so he can prove to you that he's not a zoomer, but you can come here, with zero proofs, and not be subjected to the same scrutiny. Very curious!

>>11831527
>you're zoomer who decided to buy consoles from the 90s in poor conditions as well as a bunch of other toys and junks in poor condition from the 90s as well!!!!
please stop already, this is utterly embarrassing.

>>11831528
I'm not demanding anything. I know that dude's a zoomer because what he says does not reflect the experience of someone who wasn't there, and is assuming how it was based on modern console-buying behavior.
As for me, I don't much care what any of you believe. I was there and I know how it was. You can be as wrong about that fact as you want to be, no skin off my nose.
>>11831532
>grrr just fall for my bullshit!
No.

>>11831532
ESL

>>11831547
>does not reflect the experience of someone who wasn't there
>anybody who isn't a compulsive consumers like me is secretly a zoomer

>>11831578
congratulations on buying a CIB PS2 off ebay?
do you really not understand how proof works?
Anyway, point is that by late 2001, everybody who wasn't poor had copped the PS2 if they were any kind of Sony fan in the previous generation. Which you'd know if you were there.

>>11829079 (OP)
It was cheap and I liked Tony Hawk 2

>>11831591
>why is this larping zoomer obsessed with games that got released when he wasn't even born? is he stupid???

>>11831402
>>11831487
>>11831578
even if you are right you are stupid af for putting this much effort into arguing on 4chan

>>11831601
Congratulations on having an interest in games you didnt play back in the day, because you weren't alive?
Like, do you not understand basic logic? Nothing you've shown at any point actually proves what you want it to.
I actually really hope you ARE a larping zoomer, because if you're pushing 40 and you're still this fucking stupid, that's fucked.

>>11831604
>because if you're pushing 40 and you're still this fucking stupid, that's fucked.
concession accepted. Have a nice day.

Can we start rage banning frogs and euros in general from /vr/? They’re almost as bad as Indians at this point.

>>11831603
it's really not much effort when i store my childhood stuff in a dedicated storage room and beside that's one of the perks of being autistic, you get to humiliate losers and watch them quadruple down.

>>11831606
You're retarded.

>>11831609
the only person you're humiliating is yourself, by showing that you possess no critical thinking skills nor capacity for logical thought whatsoever lmfao

>>11829079 (OP)
Halo. Literally that's it.

>>11829097
This anon makes a good point. New consoles back then were exciting. Not sure calling "new" ones that have released in the past decade or 15 years smart phones makes sense but they aren't as exciting because they all are basically homogenized for the most part. So it becomes a power game. Any that lack power or games quantity will largely be ignored. Its why I think Nintendo is still surviving. They go out of their way to be different from Sony and MS and they also have a huge history behind them with loyal fans.

It will be close to impossible for a new brand to come in unless one of three stop making consoles altogether. Looking like it will be MS that stops first here. I assume at that point Sony and Nintendo will become even more powerful and whatever tech company tries to break in after a MS exit is going to be even more of a distant third then even MS currently is. Wouldn't be surprised if we see MS team up with another company and put a lot less into the hardware side of things. Rebranding or ditching the Xbox brand at this point might even be a wise decision. If MS were to team with Sega they can just pretend its a new Sega console. Meanwhile MS is fronting most of the bill, the online infrastructure, game pass, etc.

Back to OP's point. I liked the OG Xbox. It was exciting and did in fact provide something different from PS2. Different enough that you do miss out something. GC/PS2/Xbox all provided enough noticeable differences and games to be worth owning. Wasn't really until last gen this especially started to become meaningless with Xbox One and PS4 largely being the same fucking shit.

>>11833228
The other thing was the graphics, the Xbox had otherworldly good graphics at this time. The Gamecube looked amazing and even stepping up to the PS2 from the previous generation was completely mind blowing but the Xbox was next level and it could generate larger world/environment sizes too. At the time it wasn't only about what games it had, but what it could do. Gaming wasn't fully modern yet.

>>11829079 (OP)
lmao that lineup is pure dudebro trash

>>11829147
I kneel. Can't believe I've slept on the Xbox for so long.

>>11829147
I ought to grab myself Jet Set Radio Future and Toejam and Earl 3 one of these days...

At least I have a 360 that can play them. Gauntlet Dark Legacy, I wish I had something that could play that...

>>11829079 (OP)
NHL hitz
Tony Hawk 2x
Halo
That would be the best 3 you could get, what's the 20th game

>>11829079 (OP)
20 games is a massive launch, that might be the biggest ever.

>>11831402
Holy shit i had that toy.

>>11831352
And stores were still carrying PS1 and N64 games in 2001? How were they able to keep you busy? Had friends over often?

>>11829079 (OP)
>ow did anyone get baited into buying a console made by a software company with zero track record in the industry and barely any gaymes?

they didn't. it flopped. but somehow Halo was big enough of a hit to survive selling out to MS.

>>11835938
of course you did, anybody who didn't have megazord/thunder megazord was a fucking loser.

sure kiddo i'll educate you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhn0ZayJvxQ

regardless of quality, i think gaylo is trash, but is obvious plenty of money was put into publicity. People didn't want to miss out.

>>11831406
>Everybody who wasn't poor had one by the end of 2001.

i wanted it for fantasy fantasies but i was poor and the latest FF for it wasn't out yet. it has Unreal Tournie, but since i had a shit PC that can already play Unreal demos with crap settings, i wasn't impressed by the release date lineup.

>>11835972
why would I give a shit what stores carried? I had them for years at this point
>how were they able to keep you busy?
by playing the lineup of games I had? You do realize ps1 games were still released in 2000s? FFIX and vagrant story were released in 2000.
>Had friends over often?
what does this have to do with the color of the sky?

>>11831487
>DBZ cards
i can't belive it. mexicans are white!

>>11830330
Holy cope

>>11829079 (OP)
Money.

/thread

>>11831578
>eurotrash date style

Get out, you have to get out of this thread. Only Amerimutts allowed.

>>11829753
Lol omg I can't stop laughing, fuck

>>11830291

I've only heard of a few of those so either I am way more out of the loop than I realised or the rest didn't have staying power.
>ready 2 rumble: round 2
Also a ailanle on ps1, and not as good as the first imo

The console looked cool. The branding and console UI were cool. The graphics were better than the other consoles. A console doesnt need a huge amount of games to be worth buying if there are enough to make you feel you got your moneys worth out of the console. People point at the PS2 but it had an obscene amount of filler shovelware games inflating its library because the licensing to do so was so cheap and the vast majority of people with a ps2 all played games from the same pool of like 100 games despite there being like 2000 titles or whatever in it. Arguably the vast majority of ps2 owners really just played form a pool of like 50 games, shit like tekken gta, metal gear solid, god of war, etc. so from that standpoint the GameCube Xbox and ps2 in practice really had around the same amount of good well known games so you couldn’t really go wrong buying any of them. it probably was the last console gen to be like this. If you bought a Wii you got tricked. you would have had more fun with a ps3 or an Xbox 360. Then by the time the Wii U came out and the Xbox one and the ps4 and beyond every gen arguably you might only want one console or none at all. Today you have the gimmick switch machine and you have the Xbox one x and the ps5 which hardly have any good games themselves.

>>11829079 (OP)
>It worked for Sony.
Microsoft's thought process.

>>11835378
The dudebro audience was necessary to keep the gaming ecosystem grounded and fun as long as it was. They may have played different games than you but they were not the audience targeted or in mind with all of the shitty choices and changes which happened to videogames in the last decade+. Lots of the older dudebro meme games are franchises from the 2000s still were fun games in their own right even if it wasn’t something you yourself would play with your superior taste with whatever IP or genre you claim to be better than what they liked. When I think of the dudebro archetype I think of a guy who expects the game to be cool and to just work without any bullshit. Even if that means it’s just a racing game or something like snowboarding or COD.

>>11830291
Taken Tag Tournament was pretty ballin.
Tekken Bowling has to be one of the best mini games ever.