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>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 6th Gen Consoles and older. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.
>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright.
>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Do people read this? Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.

CRT Pastebin (Never Ever) : http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3x
Guide to CRT Hunting : http://pastebin.com/H9H9L2LQ
Guide to Video Monitors : http://pastebin.com/pQX4N6gZ
General Purpose CRT Adjustment Guide : http://www.arcaderepairtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/guide_setup_adjust_arcade_monitors_v1.2.0.pdf
S-Video Pasta : http://pastebin.com/rH2h6C7W
BKM-10R Protocol Info : http://pastebin.com/aTUWf33J
JVC RGB card cloning guide : https://pastebin.com/EXqMBfcY

I bought a new old stock Emerson CR202EM9 20" flatscreen (picrel but silver) for $270 shipped. I'm not sure if it was a great deal or I'm retarded for spending 3x the used price to get something that could have been sitting in a moldy storage unit for 17 years while leaking capacitor juice anyway, but I hope this baby works and makes the games look as good as it does in the photos.

>>11857164
no component, but it has s-video. looks like a nice set and appears everything is working properly

it does feels retarded to spend that much on a crt, but i've got lucky with a lot of cheap pickups before everything exploded in price. if i had no crts right now i'd probably spend more than i should on one too

Been testing the SCART666. I followed the guide from GitHub but all I get is an extremely distorted image. Might either be my cable, or my transcoder (SCART to Component) doesn't like the S666.
Other than that, not much going on with CRTs. I might reuse a 2014 raspberry pi for Kodi tho.

>>11857170
>no component, but it has s-video. looks like a nice set and appears everything is working properly
Yeah, it's not incredibly feature-rich I'm afraid. Thankfully I'm only going to be using it to play a neo geo over composite, so it seems decent enough for that.
>it does feels retarded to spend that much on a crt, but i've got lucky with a lot of cheap pickups before everything exploded in price. if i had no crts right now i'd probably spend more than i should on one too
I wish I had bought a nice CRT 5-10 years ago before things got crazy (or at least kept ones from when I was younger, which I stupidly threw out or solid for a pittance at yard sales). The main reason I chose this guy is because I was specifically looking for a late-manufactured TV that was brand new. This one was made in 2008, it was one of the only NOS TVs in my price range on eBay, and I liked the aesthetics. So I figured, fuck it. I've blown $270 on significantly more retarded things in my life, and if this thing somehow lasts me 10+ years I'll consider it money well spent.

>>11857152 (OP)
I can save them

Posting my question again, hoping for more suggestions:

What are some of the best non-Trinitron TV models available in Europe? I'm looking for

>A curved set, so probably 90s or early 00s
>21 inch only
>Composite, s video and RGB inputs

I have a couple Sonys already and they're great, but I want to have a nice slot mask too. I have a Philips, but it has a somewhat defective flyback, the picture blooms like crazy. I can look around for a while, I'm not in a rush, just want to know what to look out for in particular.

In the previous thread one anon suggested a Bang & Olufsen MX4000 which seems great, if I can ever find it. Hoping for more suggestions, I'd like some kind of a "premium model" with high quality components and a bunch of inputs, but it seems those weren't really made in 21 inch tube size

>>11857164
if it has damage from bad condition e.g humidity i think you could see it pretty clearly from just taking the back off and looking.

This set has component inputs but doesn't support 480p. It does look nice but I wonder if it would look even better if i just used an S Video cable

>>11822131
You can also play unsupported consoles and modern titles using the Moonlight plugin with EmuELEC. The quality isn't perfect, but I'm happy with my Rpi4.

I bought a CRT computer monitor that works great, but the plastic case doesn't stay together because it took a fall at some point which completely busted the plastic clips that hold it together where it isn't screwed in.

What would be a good glue to put around the edges to hold the case together? Maybe like a caulk or something? I imagine hot-melt glue would soften from the heat of the monitor running. I have plastic cement that I already used to repair the cosmetic damage of the fall, but I'd rather something that wouldn't be too difficult to remove in the future in case I wanted to get inside it for some reason.

>>11859261
i would recommend pic rel instead.

>>11859269
maybe if it came in yellowed 90's beige colored

>>11859326
you can try to epoxy it but it sounds like kind of a big job.

>>11857906
>I have a Philips, but it has a somewhat defective flyback
Grab a soldering iron parts list and and replace the flyback?

>>11859420
Oh yeah, I forgot that quality replacement flybacks are readily available for any random TV you may own

>>11859549
Plenty of new old stock available from Eldor & HR Diemen.
Just get a parts list bitch.

>>11859563
I am on the lookout for the one I need, but it's not available anywhere in my country. And replacements are hit and miss, I could get one just as bad or learn that this TV simply always looked like this (shit)

>>11857164
nice pic

>>11857906
I think JVC had the K series in Europe and should have a SCART input. JVC and Toshiba are your best bet for good curved sets.

Anyone here using CRTpi 3.0? Is there any way to add Kodi to it without downloading it as an ads-on from the manager? It gives me an error every single time, and if I update anything, the whole thing breaks.

>>11860434
be honest, you still watch rugrats too don't you?

>>11860439
it's been a while but it is a good cartoon. plus music by mark mothersbaugh

>>11859979
Thanks anon. Although with JVC it's a bit of a gamble in Europe, they seem to have branded some garbage TVs too - with low quality Thompson tubes and bare minimum electronics

>>11860436
Here's the Kodi install script from my Retropie install that worked fine, pastebin.com - 9Yas7hsN. I think that's the file that tells it how to install crap, it's in /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/ports

>>11860757
>bare minimum electronics
There were pretty based towards the end of CRTs, you had trash branded television sets paired with top tier tubes.
Guaranteed free from 100hz too

>>11860804
It's all fun and games, until you want to adjust the geometry in any meaningful way. Good luck even getting into the service menu lol. Also the cheap late sets could have nasty surprises like not supporting RGB despite having a SCART plug - I have one like this, although it's made by LG

>>11860864
>Good luck even getting into the service menu
Never encountered this problem I just open the sucker up and usually its a Daewoo, BEKO or Vestel chassi. No problem finding a service manual and code, sure the menu system itself is complete utter garbage, with stupid crap such as only being able to display a crosspattern with a RF lead but once you set it up its all ok.
Oh and be sure to have tools so you can adjust the h-size coils directly on the board.
> although it's made by LG
The worst TV in my collection is a Samsung first off it was sold as 21" and the model name reflects this, I open the sucker up and its a 48cm tube instead of 51cm. There is also noise on all inputs that you can't remove this is a design flaw of some sort as I have found posts from the mid 2000s and later google translated russian/serbian repair forums complaining about the same thing.
If you find a TV with a SAMSUNG KS1A board avoid the fucker like the plague.

>>11857152 (OP)
hey
is there any working light gun for xbox 360 that i can use with rgh emulators on a 60hz crt?

>>11860883
Korean CRTs in general seem to be pretty bad, not the first time I see Samsung getting shit on. Although I do have a VGA monitor with chink chassis and a Samsung tube and it's not bad at all. It has fucked geometry, but somewhat fixable with the OSD options. The thing was new old stock when I got it, I guess old electronics which received voltage every once in a while are more reliable than those never used

Rokufag here again.

Watching MTV in-between SNES gameplay sessions is great. Makes me feel like it's 1993 again.

>>11857906
I heard good things about Thomson "black pearl" sets, but I have no personal experience with them

>curious on the temperature of the market
>check fb marketplace
>most of the crt listings are old
>message and ask if it sold or not
>if you're lucky enough to get a reply they tell you it sold a long time ago
Looks like it might be getting rough out there.

also, why the fuck does no one take down sold listings and why does fb not remove them after a certain amount of time?

>>11861127
what are you using to roku to the television

Can I fix this in the service menu or is it fucked?

>>11862946
the cutoff at the bottom yeah, but the linearity issues probably not. My set's got the same problems and it's been driving me nuts.

>>11862957
Thanks, this is why I normally don't buy flat CRTs because the geometry is wacky smacky like this 90% of the time. I got this one because it was 20" with component and basically free. Guess I'm just gonna put it back on the market.

>>11862910
probably has one of the old rokus that has composite output

>>11857152 (OP)
I think about CRTs more than actually playing on one, mine have been in the basement for the past half year

Are there any good guides for getting a modern computer to output to a CRT monitor? There's like a billion different VGA adapter recommendations. I did see a few people recommend you just get a 980ti and use DVI to VGA adapter with it since its the highest spec card that outputs analog video, and that option is kind of tempting.

>>11860945
pls someone?

>>11862946
you should expand the vertical and horizontal size if you can. Until the red dots are touching the edges. That usually makes things look a little better overall

>>11863585
Doesn't exist. You should get a ps2 for light gun games instead

>>11863019
>>11862910
It's a Roku Express but a specific old model from like a decade ago. They are like $80-$120 on ebay now. I wouldn't recommend it since it's so old and slow. You never know when apps will stop being supported. Last time I tried to use mine youtube wasn't working anymore.

>>11863612
Thanks, I'll figure out the service menu later today and see if it helps. How does it look right now? Be honest please.

>>11863821
I stopped worrying and played the games

>>11863821
Looks great. No point in obsessing over the little imperfections. Overscanning a little bit just makes them less noticeable to me. When there is underscan the imperfections on the edges stand out more

>>11863821
i'm sure it's slightly more noticeable in motion but honestly it looks fine to me

>>11863624
You should get a newer roku and buy one of those hdmi>composite adapters from walmart

>>11863616
Isn't it a huge chore to make a PS2 gun work on anything but a PS2?

>>11864374
I just use CRT emudriver, ps3, or 360. Downscaling is always gonna look a little worse than native 480i output

>>11864620
>I just use CRT emudriver, ps3, or 360
How does that solve the issue? YouTube on 360 doesn't even work anymore, nor do any of the other video services. Pretty sure it's the same case for PS3.

>>11864374
it won't output proper 4:3

>>11864670
you can still use youtube on ps3

>>11857906

Not an European but my mom had a Grundig TV when I was a kid. I never found any other CRT matching it's colour, focus, contrast, brightness etc, absolutely perfect in every aspect.

How rare are CRTs now? I've been looking for about 2 years myself, unless I want to buy one one on ebay for like a thousand bucks.

I got my first flat 27" Toshiba. It's good, but there are a few things I think it does somewhat poorly compared to my Trinitrons.

Things it does better:
>actual good convergence throughout the entire screen
>consistent focus throughout the entire screen
>better purity
>much better and cleaner composite output
>more natural colors

Things the Trinitrons do better:
>vastly superior contrast and black levels
>vastly superior white balance
>much better audio
>slightly better and more consistent geometry (the Toshiba shrinks a little on the right side)
>center of the screen looks sharper (it loses a bit of focus on the edges)
>way less blooming

I'm a bit conflicted on which one to use. I think I like the colors on the Trinitron better, despite the Toshiba looking more accurate. The better white balance and black levels gives the picture much more depth, it really shows on games like Silent Hill 2. I think the tube on the Toshiba has less hours though.

Potentially found my first component set. a 2008 dynex. it's pretty beat up and the guy wanted $150 (lol) but I got him down to 50. Probably still too much but I have had a really hard time finding a set with component.

>>11865737
they arent even that expensive on ebay, just PVMs go that high. There's a few NIB CRTs on there for less than 500, but there's a lot of risks there.

As for how rare they are...like everything else YMMV, but I feel like it's getting to be a tougher market in my area of the rural midwest.

>>11865737
Depends on where you live. I've seen plenty of americans here complaining they can't find one, or that they're too expensive, but both Europeans and Latinos find them for free on the street or FB Marketplace.

>>11864978
Grundig didn't make their own tubes I think. Probably Philips tube inside

>>11858000
Never heard of those before, thanks anon. Has anyone here used a Thomson CRT? I don't think I've ever seen any in the wild

>>11866591
Every 20/21/22 inch CRT monitor I've seen on ebay is over $1,000.

>>11867015
I could see that. monitors are tough to find compared to tvs in my personal experience.

>>11867143
Yeah, I haven't seen either TVs or monitors in 11 years. I use to see them left on side walks, and the last time I saw one was in 2014.

>>11867143
Could a CRT TV be used as a monitor?

>>11867153
they get dumped every day here in philadelphia

Anybody have a recommendation for a good cart I can buy for a 20 incher? Something like this would be good. I'd like it to fit the CRT almost perfectly but with maybe an inch or two of room on the sides so it has a solid base. Something wide and fairly low to the ground, with enough room for a single console, a DVD player and a few games/movies. Bonus points if it has little hooks or something where I can hang controllers/cables.

>>11867161
Depends on the what system you want to use

>>11867229
MS-DOS

>>11867452
Then use a cga card with composite

>>11867172
Aside from just getting a cart like exactly what you posted, look at steel wire carts/shelves. They come in a lot of sizes and you can probably just customize exactly what you're looking for. And yes steel wire is more than strong enough to hold a CRT without so much as flexing.

>>11857906
This but for Amerikkka and any size please?

I'm not gonna pay hundreds and reinforce some reseller flipping grandpa's tuner they got for a song just cause they slapped RETRO VINTAGE GAMING on the eBay listing.
What are the hidden gems that are getting overlooked for the Trinitron hype? That I could get for a deal and have a nice set for my den or parts.

>>11868940
anything with low hours is a hidden gem imo. i have all sorts of brands (sony, sharp, sanyo, zenith, memorex) and they are all fine.

>>11868959
Any way to get that from a unit? Obviously one cant expect pap pap to know how long the tv was on over the last three decades.

>>11868980
Most service menus will display the TV's power on hours somewhere, especially if it's a monitor.

>>11868983
for tvs i dont really think this is true. I cant get service hours on 3 of my 4 tvs that I have tried. It seems to be mostly a early 2000s thing. My 1995 trinitron cant do it, for example.

Bros, I'm picking up one of these bad boys tomorrow. First ever HD CRT. Never thought I would get one.

>>11869004
>bad boy
r/crtgaming is that way >->

>>11869050
i cant help that i look like this and type like this

>>11869004
Grats dude, I'm jelly as fuck. I wouldn't have space for that beast but I'd still make an excuse to stuff it somewhere in my house lol. Enjoy it, post pics when you get it breh.

>>11869004
don't these just add input lag? what's the advantage here over a flatscreen SDTV of the same size unless you're using them to play xbox 360 or some shit?

>>11869489
Not him but you should be able to get 480p or even up to 1080i out of it, which 6th gen consoles and the Wii definitely support, and when using analog video you should be able to disable digital processing on it to remove the input lag if its a good TV. If you're actually using HDMI on it like with 7th gen or later than the input lag doesn't really make a difference.

Found this, any good?

>>11870247
No.

>>11865737
I live on east coast US, and i practically find atleast one sitting outside once a week.

Panasonic Tau model CT-26WX15N Manufactured 2005. I still need to open it up and clean the inside, as well as finish up the outside. This thing was pretty dirty from storage. But it seems to be running fine. I was able to check usage hours without a remote and it's at 4,845.

This is both my first HD CRT and my first set with component inputs. what do you guys think would look best with it?

>>11871768
fuck you quit humblebragging
marketplace/item/1038010764980567
if i was close enough i would have gotten it

>>11871790
dang i didn't really think anything was bragging. i just thought it was cool because i have never seen one of these out in the real world before.

>>11869050
You fags aren't any different than the CRT enthusiasts on reddit. "Look at muh five CRTS that I don't use for anything other than showing them to muh fellow likeminded anonerinoz that collect dust in teh corner"

>>11871803
At least /vr/ seems to have a little more balls when it comes to doing service.

>>11857503
You could build a fortress

>>11871821
>doing service
?

You mean maint? I learned from reddit (and youtube vids linked there) personally. Not like i see a lot of open sets here.

>>11871803
I use my CRT everyday though.

>>11871768
>>11871790
I had one of these and I fucking regret giving it away. My PS2 games on a good component cable looked so fucking crisp on it.

My 32" Wega has an weird issue where I can't navigate the menu. I can open it by pressing the front button, but I can't adjust anything. The remote doesn't work either.
The volume and channels button work normally.

Is this fixable? I'm assuming it's an issue with the jungle chip that controls the menu. What should I check on the board to confirm this?
It did work when I got it, but suddenly stopped.

Worth it for 185 bucks?

>>11864378
You get a PS2 light gun for a PS2. Are you a fucking child?

>>11874187
Only you can answer that question. I would consider the following, however:
>How many hours are on the unit? (a 00's trinitron probably tracks this)
>How was it stored?
>Did it deal with extreme temps and/or humidity?

>>11874187
>80kg HDCRT
What are you even using it for? That's way too much for a TV you'd need at least two people to carry.

>>11874187
Nah I'd get a shit set for $20 and just wait for a deal to pop up.

>>11874187
maybe?
I'd lowball and see how the seller responds. A lot of the time people put high prices because they just assume that's what CRTs go for now, but usually they care more about just getting rid of it than they do making a big buck off it.

>>11874187
Only if it was new in the box. It's a dice roll with old TVs and most of them I pick up have something wrong with them

>>11874593
NTA really but i would be careful about "new in box" stuff because if it was stored in a garage or something there's a good chance it has damage

>>11874187
Don't know where you're located, but 32 inch TVs are usually free near me because of how difficult they are to get rid of. 185 is crazy for a consumer set, I would only consider that if it were in immaculate condition.

>>11871768
Hey, I have the exact same set! Smaller sized HD CRTs are so rare, I had to scour fb marketplace for months to find it. In NA I believe 26 was the smallest size they ever made for an HD set.

>>11874680
Also, it doesn't do any kind of upscaling for 480p content, unlike most HD tvs (e.g. the Sony's). Perfect for Wii era stuff.

Just messing around with an old favorite. Really gotta get my KV-36XBR200 from my dads house. Dad bought it new back in the day and it only has like 5 or so NFL seasons worth of hours on it.

>>11865869
Is this Pocky and Rocky?

>>11874693
Good to know, thanks.

CRT's ARE BASED!

What kind of retard would buy pic related when you can get an end-game CRT in good condition for 200 to 300 bucks?

>>11875726
Those look cool, shame they work out to be like $800 in my country's monopoly money

>last CRT broke, search for a new one and keep it in storage until i can get it fixed
>look for a curved CRT since i've been told they have less geometry problems
>find a 90's trinitron for 45 bucks, but ok
>buy it since i've never had one before and trinitrons in my area are kinda rare and usually go for twice that as "NOSTALGIC RETRO GAMER TV"
>try it at home, find out it has a bend on the lower right even worse than my previous LG slim CRT
>a lot of geometry adjustments like HSIZ, CPIN and TRAP just do absolutely fucking nothing
I feel like a sucker. Oh well, at least it looks nice and i can actually see scanlines now.

>last CRT broke, search for a new one and keep it in storage until i can get it fixed
>look for a curved CRT since i've been told they have less geometry problems
>find a 90's trinitron for 45 bucks, composite only but ok
>buy it since i've never had one before and trinitrons in my area are kinda rare and usually go for twice that as "NOSTALGIC RETRO GAMER TV"
>try it at home, find out it has a bend on the lower right even worse than my previous LG slim CRT
>a lot of geometry adjustments like HSIZ, CPIN and TRAP just do absolutely fucking nothing
I feel like a sucker. Oh well, at least it looks nice and i can actually see scanlines now.

>>11876345
>a lot of geometry adjustments like HSIZ, CPIN and TRAP just do absolutely fucking nothing
How bad is it? Maybe it needs a yoke adjustment.

What image should I use for a raspberry with a VGA666 > Component Converter > TV? I saw there's a CRTPi-RGB image, but it's 5 years old. Would I be fine just installing a brand new retropie image?

Picrel just listed in nashville suburbs. 27 is a good size.

I recently got my hands on a CRT monitor (Philips 107B30) and need a decent DP adapter for my modern PC. I'm using a cheap one I had laying around, but it won't support higher refresh rates or resolutions that the monitor is rated for.

I have googled around and it seems like the most talked about options are the Delock 62967 and the Startech DP2VGAHD20. The Delock I can't find for sale and the Startech I hear has quality variance and possibly a mixture of different processors under the same model number.

Are there any other recommendations you guys have?

Lookin good

>>11877179
this nigga making pictures like he has a 2005 nokia phone

>look up stats on CRT usage
>a bunch of shitty articles and redditors claiming that CRTs had been widely abandoned by the late 2000s if not earlier
This has to be bullshit right? I grew up in an upper-middle class area of the northeast US and it wasn't at all uncommon to see CRTs in houses well into the early 2010s. Even in my own house, we had two HDTVs (one in the basement and one in the living room), but we were still using CRTs in my room and my parent's room. When did CRTs truly die out? I'd say it wasn't until 2013-2014 that you'd start looking like a sperg for having one in your house.

>>11877434
i bought my first flat screen in 2006 I was the only person i knew with one

>>11877434
TV going purely digital was a big blow. Then again, buying a digital receiver box and connecting it to your already existing TV is cheaper than outright buying a brand new TV.
Fact of the matter is CRT TVs are still widely used, not just in America but all around the globe. Even with chink shit LCD TVs with God-forsaken 768p panels practically giving themselves away for free, there's just not much incentive for people to go out of their way for new tech specially the older they are.

>>11877434
One man's trash is another man's treasure. My parents refused to buy an HDTV for the living room until I got them a secondhand set around Christmas 2015, and before then they were using a CRT rear projection set I found in an alley. Before then we used tube CRTs exclusively. I'd say 2012 was the year that you'd look like a fogey for not having an HDTV.

>>11877434
In my household, we switched to a "flat" HDTV in 2006, mostly forced because the big ass CRT for the main room died. I still kept a small CRT for my room until it died in 2014/15 or so. Keep in mind the Wii wasn't capable of HD and Nintendo based that decision banking on an slow adoption of HDTVs (a bad prediction).

>>11877434
Saying CRTs were widely abandoned by the late 2000s or earlier is a bit like saying everyone stopped playing their NES when the SNES came out, or that everyone threw out their DVDs to get blu rays, or that everyone had 4K TVs in 2014. If you've actually been around for that you'd know that's wrong from experience, but if you're some reddit zoomer using release dates and your modern consumerist mindset of "new good old bad" then yeah you'd believe it.

oh look everybody i'm having to bump this shit from page 10

I hate to ask but I looked all over the archives
Does anyone have the image of a Japanese fella testing, I think a SNES, on a CRT
It was a large CRT, on a carpet, which was in the middle of the photo. I seem to recall he was on the right hand side of the image
I need it to prove someone incorrect as to aspect ratios on the SNES. We all know what that feeling is like
Thank you

>>11876806
I took my 27" Trinitron out for a gaming event this past winter, left it overnight, and someone stole it. First time I've been CRTless, and I think if I replace it, I'll try to get something small like >>11880882

>>11879719
why did they make so few colorful CRTs? everything is either black or silver, maybe white occasionally, you only really see color on these Disney ones made for children. it's a shame since it's an aspect of design that really sets it apart from modern TVs.

>>11880901
I'm lucky in that I do own that exact Sony Trinitron (KV-14LT1U).
It's pretty much perfect for me, I mean the CRT issues which arise over the years aside (they're not all fixable via the service menu) the size of it and the fact it has SCART means it'll do.

>>11880903
>why did they make so few colorful CRTs?
Because they were actually intended for consumer use - the aimed market watched TV on them daily so the unit isn't supposed to distract from the usage.

>>11880913
>distract from the usage
not even something like dark blue, or any neutral color besides black and grey? even as a niche? it's hard to buy this reasoning when there are almost no non-black/grey crts in proportion to the huge amount of crts made up to the 2000s.

>>11880929
Imagine you have a warehouse with 150 TVs in five colors. Only two colors are popular. What do you do with the other TVs that aren't selling?

>>11880940
would black and grey really be the only two colors that would sell? it's hard to say because they didn't produce any others. it just seems like they assumed everyone only wanted those two. this argument would make more sense if such a scenario actually occurred and companies had to dump all their non-black/grey crts at some point. but instead it seemed like those were the default colors from the beginning.

>>11880929
A dark blue TV in a living room would be distracting. TVs are and still are the heart of any living room and what all the chairs are aimed towards. It has to blend with the room.
Modern TVs up on a wall don't have a thin lime green bezel with Shrek ears poking out of the corners for a reason.
It really isn't to say there is no demand for anything other than silver or black but they're both really safe and work in almost any room.

>>11880957
but there were tons of small crts not made for living rooms, obviously. there were barely any made for a kids market, which surely existed back then. and remember I'm saying ANY color, even fucking beige and brown. have you seen the kind of living rooms people had back then?

I need to get a real remote for this thing, even though it will be more expensive than the set itself.
Raiden Project is cool in vertical mode

>>11881463
based RGB chad, how big is the set?

>>11881470
14 inches, the image is actually psx via composite, but the TV does RGB and S-video over SCART

>>11881474
Try getting your hands on a 21" its the perfect size, not too small big not too big either.

>>11881474
(EXTREME CLOSEUP)

>>11881482
I have a 21'' too
>>11863918 this one

>>11881463
>more
here's my 21 Philips through RGB

>>11878004
It was a good prediction. HDTVs weren't the majority until around 2011 in the US and 2015 in Japan.

>>11880901
Why would you leave something worth a couple hundred dollars like that? Are you just naive?

>>11880903
Smaller and portable TVs were more likely to come in a selection of colors. Here's some Soviet TVs.

>>11880957
I have a little set from I think 2000 that looks extremely similar to an iMac monitor with its blue and I think semi transparent.

>>11879719
That looks like poo

>>11881620
I had something like this. Is it ViewMate brand?

Anon who had the Trinitron with the fucked up colors here. I gave it away and picked up this Panasonic instead. It has some minor 16:9 burn-in, probably from the previous owners mostly watching widescreen content, but it's not a big deal and barely noticeable. Overall, this thing is great. I'm just excited to finally have a TV with proper color, lol. The geometry is a little off, and I'm curious if Panasonic CRTs generally allow adjustment for this through their service menus.

>>11875726
I've seen these in person, they don't look as good as they say for sure. Wake me up when they have a OLED version.

Anyone ever try buffing scratches out of a shadow mask?

>>11881640
I think mine is Daewoo. I have to find where i stored it. I found it in a shopping cart with a tiny trinitron and another set behind a church and someone had cut the AC cord.

>>11875726
I've never understood people's need to play on original hardware with non-CRT displays.

Found something special the other day in Aussieland only to have my hopes and dreams dashed by PAL.

Found a panasonic tx-76pw200a on facebook for a good deal, in perfect nick, but at the time didn't really know what I was getting until I got it home, since the seller didn't actually take a picture of the model and I jumped on it as fast as I could. That being said I now own a 78cm widescreen CRT that takes 480p/576p (no 720) @60hz unmolested by 100hz shenanigans, but unfortunately cannot take a 60hz 1080i signal because even at its rrp of $4200aud that was a step too far in 2003, so 1080i is locked behind 50hz unfortunately.

Still something of a special find so I will hold onto it, might be good for Wii and Xbox. Anyone in PAL land find something like this? My best bet is probably to invest in a downscaler and try squish HD content down to 576p, or even take 1080i 60 and convert it to 50.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O85mu22SyCk

Old video of someone elses set because I haven't taken any photos of it worth posting.
Also I haven't put a Grid on it and don't plan to but to my eye the geometry looked absolutely spot on. Sonic Mania @480p from a switch through a cheap HDMI to component scaler looked immaculate.

>>11884930
Agree once you go down the scaler lane, seriously just sell the hardware and emulate.

one of the benefits of living in australia is that even though PAL crt tv's didn't come with RGB SCART inputs, their circuit boards were the same as the Euro models, just with the RGB stuff unpopulated. you just wire the SCART input connector to the points labelled on the board and add a capacitor to the 5v wire.

>>11884930
I've never understood why people insist on using original hardware for PS2, Wii and Gamecube when they all run like absolute shit. 15fps on a CRT is still shit, no matter how good the motion clarity is.

>>11885994
>15fps
Not all games are that bad on those consoles. There's plenty of stuff that runs at 60fps. But definitely a ton of games that are locked to 30fps. The only thing I can think of that's really as bad as 15fps is Shadow of the Colossus

Has anyone ever attempted to swap a Trinitron tube?

>>11874732
it is. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2200580/Pocky__Rocky_Reshrined/

>>11885994
They are cheap, easily modified to use games downloaded to local storage, and it's nice to have something that just works. I was playing the PS2 library off a PC using CRTemudriver and frankly that whole shit just sucked.

>>11885994
>PS2, Wii and Gamecube when they all run like absolute shit. 15fps on a CRT
What is this hyperbole retardation

>>11889010
Cute

what CRT's have you owned?
I've only had sony's

KV-PG14P10
KV-G21S2
KV-AR212M30

I've been thinking about upgrading my PC recently and I have a question about modern graphics cards. Can they output 240p resolutions on Linux? I currently do it with crt_emudriver installed to my second and older AMD GPU, and the signal goes from the GPU to a DVI-DL > VGA converter I screw into the card, then a VGA cable to a VGA > YPbPr transcriber box, then from the box to my CRT itself.

It would definitely make my life a lot easier if I could just retire this card and stop using crt_emudriver all together. Ever since I had to upgrade to Windows 10 from 7 back when support for 7 ended, crt_emudriver and Windows 10 haven't gotten along nicely at all. I kind of want to just ditch Windows entirely for my CRT at this point.

>>11890386
sony (trinitron), sharp, RCA (truflat), memorex, panasonic (tau), zenith (healthview). couldnt tell you the exact models off the top of my head.

Is it possible to convert NTSC S-Video signal to PAL 60Hz (PAL60 I guess), without perceivable lag? I'm talking about a situation, when a PAL TV displays the NTSC video, but only in black and white, as it can't decode the colors. I tried looking for a device like this, but there's surprisingly little info on this particular use case

>>11857152 (OP)
Lads, I don't know anything about this stuff. I got an old CRT with SCART and Composite in. And I want to buy a HDMI out converter. I was going to just grab a cheap one off Amazon, but now I'm reading about lag? Can you recommend a cable or box please