Thread 11858423

bubsy shitposting again

>>11858423 (OP)
PS2 games usually look better than Gamecube by a significant degree (which has too many dry, flat looking games.) PS2 is full of beautiful particle effects that wouldn't even come close to being surpassed until GPU particles went mainstream two generations later, and even then tanked with transparency effects the PS2 powered through at 60fps.

>>11858503
PS2 games can look really amazing if the developers put effort into it and know the possibilities that the hardware offered. Games like SotC, MGS3, GoW1&2 and GT4 look really good and still hold up. Multiplats often looked so generic and ugly.

>>11858503
ZoE2 has slowdown out the ass. The environments are also very bare with little going on.

PS2 is capable of some visual effects that weren't possible on the OG Xbox. SH2 for example, even though I think the shadows were better on Xbox and the game had a higher resolution also ended up losing some fog effects IIRC.

Good.
Fuck fancy graphics.

>>11858589
Two lazy Konami ports are responsible for a generation believing the PS2 has magic capabilities.

>>11858503
I've never seen a ps2 game that looked better than what gamecube was capable of.
>>11858563
Shadow of colossus is ugly and runs like shit. Gamecube would have made this game significantly better looking instead of a foggy bloomy mess.

>>11858593
>ve never seen a ps2 game that looked better than what gamecube was capable of.
I've seen hundreds, perhaps you aren't looking hard enough or have an imaginary concept of capabilities that isn't giving enough room for reality.
>Gamecube would have made this game
It never could have ran it.

>>11858632
How sad is it your favorite webm is of a really shitty multiplat? Quite the claim to fame.

>>11858636
Why couldn't your favorite console run an open world game half as well as the PS2?

>>11858638
Why do you obsess over this atrocious game?

>>11858639
>obsess
It's just two webms anon, you have to take it easy. Now you can say you've seen a PS2 game that looked better than what GC is capable of.

>>11858642
You've posted these webms of terrible games hundreds of times. The only conclusion is that PS2 has the really shitty game market nailed down, which I agree with.

>>11858645
I've had 100 opportunities to post it, you keep making this thread. It's in your power to change this.

>>11858654
I appreciate the consistency of every example being a shitty game.

>>11858654
That's brutal. Dodged a bullet with never getting a tendie system.

>>11858593
>Gamecube would have made this game significantly better
gamecube and xbox does not have the power and technology to accomplish such a feat
i'll not waste my time explaining stuff to tech illiterate retards.

>>11858691
SotC runs at sub 15FPS and has N64 tier textures. I have no idea why it's treated as some incredible feat.

>>11858503
Just think that resident evil remake only could be ported to ps4 because no other console was similar to gamecube in raw power, and that says a lot.
Did ps2 hold back that gen, yes it did it.
It isn't it looked better or not is a matter of looking the games that only got trapped on gamecube take the gamecjbe bloody roar you can fool people and tell them is a ps3 or ps4 game and people will believe the lie without qualms or second thoughts because look far superior to any bloody roar or tekken on ps2.

>>11858423 (OP)
Lead dog sets the pace copefag

>>11858694
>complaining about texture and fps of retro games
go back, /v/ tourist.

>>11858706
Agreed

>>11858706
I'm not the one calling it a technical triumph. When held to any sort of standard for its time it really isn't.

>>11858691
The tech illiterate would be you, even dreamcast had better and more powerful hardware then ps2.

>>11858713
Dreamcast is barely a 6th generation console.
Stop please.
Both games are upscaled in this comparison (PCSX2 and Flycast).
Dreamcast is a crap and dated machine.

>>11858726
PS2 benefits from emulation more than any other 3D console. The native rendering is uniquely bad.

>>11858636
Isn't the argument that multiplats look uglier on PS2? I'm not concerned about this retarded debate but you should keep your argument consistent.

>>11858726
DC had powerful hardware at the time.

>>11858750
>>11858772

>>11858591
>Two lazy Konami ports are responsible for a generation believing the PS2 has magic capabilities.
True, they are lazy ports, but there's not some hidden seam of pixel shunting awesome hiding in the GeForceMX2+a-bit that the xbox was using that would make it render transparency at a rate even close to the PS2. nVidia is the king of GPUs because everyone else gave up, not because they were the best. Their cards were always lacking in some area, but by virtue of being the 800lb gorilla in the space they set the standard for what PC graphics could be. And it leaves porters with a big ol' problem to solve when they run up against those limitations.

>>11858772
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>>11858810
Need more triangles here, buddy... too bad the dreamcast can't do more.

>>11858503
>PS2 games usually look better than Gamecube by a significant degree

Crazy how late PS2 games can easily be called a next-gen game.
We can't say the same for the Xbox and GC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shZK1You6m0

>>11859173
that looks like shit, look at that dreamcast tier character model. RE4 on cube is an actual "next gen on current gen", nothing else comes close.

>>11859173
Looks like every other PS2 shovelware out there.

>>11859173
>randomly picked game with a watermarked screencap

lmao, still at it with this nonsense.

>>11859173
>random ass white water rafting game
>barely looks better than Sega's own arcade take on rafting

Oh, brother. This guy's about to start pulling out Barbie games as an example of the PS2's power, isn't he?

>>11859173
Yeah when it comes to PS2 it is the fine wine of consoles. Late GC games almost look worse than earlier titles on the console.

>>11859529
PS2fags are the speccyfags of consoles. It's hard to believe they're serious when they post stuff like this.

>>11859554
This is an oddly specific and obscure reference. No idea what you're talking about.

>>11858423 (OP)
The system was actually pretty good for the era. The progressive output looks pretty bad on a modern TV, but in fairness, over half of the Gamecubes made aren't even capable of component output, and the system has compressed textures and lower quality audio on a lot of games. IF you have a Gamecube that can take component cables, and IF you could find a set (considering how rare component cables are for the system in comparison to Xbox and PS2), then the Gamecube will look better than PS2. If you have a cucked Gamecube that can only output composite and S-video, or you live in Europe where none of the games supported 480p, then it's a moot point. That's before we talk about completely fucked ports on Gamecube like Hitman 2. I actually like the Cube, but it's a supplementary system to PS2 or Xbox, more than it is a viable choice as a primary 6th gen system.

Holds back all the control schemes of PLAYSTATION 2!

>>11860005
How did the Xbox? Most of the games used the black and white buttons and remapped L1 and R1 to the triggers. It also had both Start and Back (glorified select). Racing games used the triggers too, making them Xbox racing games better than their Playstation versions, generally.