You are transported back in time to 2001 and are placed in a position of highest authority within Nintendo. What do you do to make the GameCube a success?

I change nothing, it was great

>>11864836 (OP)
Remind NoA that edge is in, and that we need gooner games to compete with DOA Beach Volleyball

I change it to Mario’s Mansion and Luigi Sunshine

>>11864836 (OP)
I do nothing. The masses are foolish and cannot be trusted to make decisions in politics and video games. Only the high IQ elites chose GameCube. Sales data doesn't reflect the quality of the console, and only in a society where the noblemen rule the masses could the GameCube be victorious.

Start by changing the name to something catchier, and doing a redesign that doesn't look like a Fischer Price children's lunch pale. Nothing fancy, just call it something simple like Nintendo NX or whatever, and have it look like the Wii but in black. Also use standard DVDs rather than mini-discs. I'd also redesign the garbage ass controller to look something like the Switch's pro controller. Give third party developers a very easy to use SDK to make development as painless as possible.

>>11864836 (OP)
>change the stupid lunchbox shape
>change the gay purple color
>cancel Wind Wanker and make a new proper Zelda game withou Toon Link faggotry
>recontinue developing Mother 64 and release it on the Shitcube
>bribe Rockstar to release GTA 3 on the Shitcube
>cancel REmake and Zero in favor for new Crapcum IP's
>change FE Path of Radiance into something similar to Awakening AKA something good people will actually buy

>>11864836 (OP)
Make black the default color.

>>11864894
This sort of thing makes you realize why they made all those change to the PC Engine in the USA and they were right to do so.

>>11864836 (OP)
>Lose the handle, get rid of the retarded black jewel and replace it with a big engraved GCN logo, make it dark grey instead of purple, keep the light grey accents and orange run light
>use two grey analog sticks instead of the C-stick (seriously, it's the same fucking thing, you can even pop a left analog onto the C-stick if you open the controller... why did they waste money on a separate mold and dyes for a shittier analog stick?), add a second Z-button to the left side, make the start button larger and with a GCN logo on it, fill in the dead space between the d-pad and C-stick and make the d-pad larger
>Make Melee the marquee launch title, scrap weegee entirely
>Never once consider releasing Windfaggot and instead divert all Zelda-related resources to developing OoT 2
>Keep Rare around, try to re-hire the guys who left during the late 90s and let them lead the team developing Perfect Dark Zero for a 2003 release, trying to corner the FPS market with PD, Metroid Prime and as many third party shooters as possible (hopefully id Software if they could be pried from Microsoft)
>actually give developers hardware documentation for adding LAN/internet features to their games utilizing the optional broadband adapter, instead of purposely making networking features impossible to add because they have no fucking clue how to do it (and you didn't want them to do it because Mario doesn't like the internet, or something)
>take the several million dollars saved from aborting weegee, not including a handle, not including separates molds and materials for the C-stick and logo jewel, and use the money to include 4mb of built-in memory for saving games, then double the MSRP of memory cards
There was never a situation where they could have beaten Sony, but they could have defeated the Xbox and had sales on par or exceeding the N64 if they had just leveraged their assets and made fewer retarded decisions with aesthetics and marketing.

>>11864836 (OP)
put a dvd player in it

>>11865035
>you can even pop a left analog onto the C-stick if you open the controller
You shouldn't because the left stick is physically raised on the board to accommodate the wider thumbstick mould; I'd be worried about scratching the PCB from replacing the C-stick mould with a left stick one.

I will never understand why so many boys think that this perfectly ordinary, perfectly respectable purple is "gay" or childish

What they needed was discs with the same capacity as was offered on the other platforms and a better d-pad. That's all.

>>11864886
Then it's necessary to establish that society. You go back to 2001 and contact an alien race with the wisdom and the military power to make that happen. That's what you do.

>>11864836 (OP)
>Make the games more similar to those on N64, i.e N64 style Zelda and proper sequels to Mario 64 and Starfox 64
>Encourage Rockstar to port GTA, or even do it in house like with Ridge Racer 64
>Sequel to Melee
>Pokemon RPG
>Pokemon edition console
>3D Kirby game
>Mega Man
>Castlevania
>Sequel to Luigi's Mansion
>Another Mario Kart game
>Another Diddy Kong racing game, Rare wouldn't have to make it
>Focus marketing on multiplayer, couch multiplayer, sleepovers and stuff
>Games adults can enjoy, puzzlers like Tetris, so parents are more likely to buy the system

I bribe Shinji Mikami for exclusivity on one of the the best selling franchises of the previous generation

Trust me, it'll go super well, there is no way millions of people will stop liking tank controls and survival horror in an instant.

>>11864836 (OP)
Fire Aonuma.

>>11864836 (OP)
Pay Rockstar whatever they ask for exclusivity.

>>11864846
It was and still is garbage.

>>11864836 (OP)
I take the unsold Saturn stock and slap a Nintendo label on them.

Focus on shooters like the N64 did.

Make the controller bigger and rounder, remove the retarded octagons, make the c stick the same as the left analog, make the triggers feel good to use

>>11864836 (OP)
Release it as an power toothbrush for middle aged women. The reddit console.

>>11865762
>I take the unsold jaguar stock and slap a Nintendo label on them.
fixed

>>11864894

This encapsulates what’s wrong with this whole thread. If you people had your way, you would destroy any and all magic of the system and it would become another depressed 2000s black brick of a console

Sell Nintendo to Microsoft
Develop games for it with SEGA.

>>11864836 (OP)
Well if you can't really change the hardware anymore at that point? Then I would say:
>Try to get more third-party devs to support the GC
>Don't sell Rareware, they wanted to make games such as Banjo Threeie, Donkey Kong Racing, Conker's Other Bad Day, Kameo:Elements of Power, Perfect Dark Zero, Velvet Dark (Perfect Dark spin-off) and Grabbed by the Ghoulies
>Bring out and improved controller at some point
>Try to get more games to support online capabilities, like Melee, F-Zero GX or Mario Kart with online multiplayer
>Change the default color to something cooler like black, white or silver
>Don't let the GC get a kiddie-image
>More Pokemon games
>Make Wind Waker seem more mature by not choosing for Toon Link but pic related
>More JRPGs
>More FPS/TPS games
>GTA games
I think they could have gotten the 2nd place, after the PS2, in the 6th gen console race.
BTW that mini-DVD format was also a huge bottleneck but nothing you can do at that point.

>>11865841
Not that guy but I think it would have worked. People care about the games in the end.

Also I think that many Japanese companies have no idea what people in Western countries want.
What Western people want from Nintendo are cool games from their franchises like some cool Mario, an epic Zelda game, a dark-looking Metroid game or something like Goldeneye/Perfect Dark.

>>11864836 (OP)
It was a success.

>>11864836 (OP)
>another segafag fanfic thread

I will smoke crack and fuck Japanese hoes if I was the one in charge and maybe I would kill myself if I was the responsible of such dogshit console. The GameCube is not salvageable

>>11864836 (OP)
see if I can still get a deal with sony to do a playstation merger

>>11864836 (OP)
It lasted long enough to get a zelda, mario, and 2 metroids. That's all I care about.

>>11864836 (OP)
Peach shows more skin in Super Mario Sunshine?

>>11864907
Holy shit that FE take is nuclear diabolical lmao

Insist that Retro keep working on Raven Blade since there was a clearly a hunger for a more "mature" Zelda.
Buy Rare, and make sure Perfect Dark 2 comes out and isn't a pile of shit.
Give Rockstar a bunch of money for a GTA3 port.
Maybe try to bait Konami into porting MGS2, and Square into porting FFX.
Cosy up to Sega to a greater degree. get Jet Set Radio, Shenmue, Yakuza, etc
That's about the best you can do for it in terms of covering bases.

>>11865085
I've been doing this to GCN controllers for 20 years and I've never had any problem, ans the height difference isn't enough to make the stick grind on anything. This is aside from the point, anyway.

I'd remove the fake & rigged lotto mechanics in TTYD and replace it with true unpredictable results

>>11866543
When I replaced the c-stick with a proper stick, it was definitely grinding against something—perhaps the controller's shell?

Make it black with purple streaks

Refocus on edgy, teen, and mature media, only have one Mario, make Zelda more like LOTR

>>11864836 (OP)
Use private jet to go to OP's house, and beat him up, and tell him "Don't you dare make this thread in 24 years"

>>11866035
>grabbed by the ghoulies
That game would've been atleast a modest hit on a Nintendo console. Would've sold atleast twice as well. The game is soulful, so it's a shame that it was such a terrible fit for the Xbox crowd

>>11864836 (OP)
I skip it and make the Wii instead, then make shit tons of money.

>>11865514
You do know RE 4 was exclusive to the Gamecube at launch, right?

There is nothing that could have been done. Only thing possible would be to go farther back in time and not fuck over Sony with disc addon.

But then that would create weird ass future where possibly Microsoft never got into the console market and no Playstation

>>11864836 (OP)
>make it play dvds
>change original color to black or silver
>have first party dev games have more online features for multiplayer

>>11866035
>Don't let the GC get a kiddie-image
>More Pokemon games
anon there is a contradiction here

>>11867067
I know it wasn't a huge hit on Xbox but it was a Rareware game so I assume it would do well on a Nintendo console.

>>11867514
Well N64 also had Pokemon games but I feel like it was a more mature Nintendo console.

>>11865841
The NES looked like a boring VCR and it was the system you bought to play all the good games at the time. The Gamecube is when Nintendo consoles turned into the Nintendo toy you buy to play Nintendo games.

>>11868014
I thought VCR's where cool in the 80s

>>11867969
the N64 was in no way a more "mature" console than the GC.

>>11864836 (OP)
It should come with one copy pso throw that card pso gaem keyboard modem gaemboi playa stolen SD card protype anything else and call it...

>has Eternal Darkness, several exclusive RE games, also most of the RE series up to that point was playable
>Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX, Wave Race Blue Storm, Luigi's Mansion (which is on the more mature side of Mario games, at least), Pikmin (which is a game that traumatizes children)
>a whole bunch of cross platform shooter games - Nightfire, Timesplittlers, Medal of Honor, Red Faction 2, Splinter Cell, Dead to Rights
>has a selection of wigger games - Def Jam, Need for Speed Underground, True Crime, Driver 3, Tony Hawk's Underground
>has a bunch of hack and slash games - Spartan Total Warrior, Balder's Gate Dark Alliance, The Prince of Persia trilogy, Gauntlet Dark Legacy
>has Killer 7, and whatever PN03 was supposed to be
>has a modest selection of JRPGS that aren't just Mario or Pokemon
How is that not beating the N64 in edge factor?

>>11870394
Oh, it also had the uncensored version of BMX XXX. Silly me for forgetting that

>>11864836 (OP)
"guys.. i think kids like cool stuff instead of gay baby shit.."

>>11870428
There's no getting around this frame, because people are the time were determined to view everything Nintendo did as "for babies" anyway.
If Okami had come out on the GC instead, people would have said "I'm not playing some gay baby game where you play as a dog. Why isn't it God of War", and if God of War had come out on the GC, people would have ignored it, like they ignored Eternal Darkness, Geist, Resident Evil Zero, and Beach Spikers.
The die was cast. It literally just did not matter.

>>11864836 (OP)
>You are transported back in time to 2001
I'll get 100% fentanyl free cocaine. Take me back.

>>11870328
It felt that way to me. It had more mature FPS games I think or at least in terms of share. I think in reality GC was no kiddie console with like six RE games, Killer7 and Eternal Darkness.
See:
>>11865795

>>11870976
The GC probably had more FPS games in total though. The only thing is they were generally cross platform games. It's got versions of Medal of Honor and Call of Duty and everything. It has I think four James Bond games, as opposed to two.
It did have Rogue Squadron 2 and 3 as exclusives though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKAjAvA-4oE

>>11865514
Capcom and mikami regreted that deal as long as re 2002 hit the stores.

>>11864836 (OP)
>Mandate built-in DVD playback functionality or bring the Panasonic Q to the West
>Bring GTA to the Gamecube
>Bet hard on online functionality, make Mario Kart Double Dash the showpiece game for it with a bundle while Kirby Air Ride, Mario Party, Star Fox Assault, Geist, Metroid Prime 2, F-Zero GX, Battalion Wars, Pokemon Colosseum and XD, FF Crystal Chronicles, Four Swords Adventures (and the games' UI would be redesigned to make the GBA shit optional), the Mario sports games, Melee, TimeSplitters 2 and FP, and many other third party games are all supported
>Bring more edgy shooters and titty games to the Gamecube
>Tweak Metroid Prime to use dual-stick controls similar to the remaster or Halo, push it very heavily as the console's killer-app
>Market Wind Waker differently so it isn't written-off as a kiddy game
>Launch with Mario Sunshine instead of Luigi's Mansion

Liquidate the company and commit seppuku for no reason

Forget about wind waker, concentrate on twilight princess. Put everything from the Manga in the game. Nintendo now releases the greatest game ever made.

>>11873931
And add romance for midna, zelda, illia, the soldier girl, fishing girl, telma...

Market the black version, cancel the purple one, use regular DVDs and change the god awful controller. Just those 3 things could've saved it.

>>11873931
midna sexo

I activate a bomb and kill nintendo instantly!

>>11864836 (OP)
It was great and I loved it.

>>11865795
>make the triggers feel good to use
But anon those were probably the best and most comfortable triggers ever made. I remember the first time I held that controller and was like "holy shit this feels amazing".

>>11864836 (OP)
Ship it with a DVD

>>11866919
Give it black and red tiger stripes and rename it the "XTREME KUBE" or XTREME raised to the power of 3. Give it "xtreme" font where it looks like a monster is clawing through the console. Load it with shovelware and sports games. Make Mario an edgy teenager who swears occasionally.

>>11864836 (OP)
Get the rights to put all Star Wars games on it. Back then the prequels were still riding high and many of them (myself included) would have bought one or more systems if more exclusives were had. Also if it did a halfway decent port of Star Wars Trilogy.
>inb4 but SEGA
I don't care, just saying if Nintendo had the rights.

>>11877047
And this. They almost learned their lesson with the Wii, but then cheaped out. You can fix their error by modding it, but that's beside the point.

>>11864836 (OP)
>use standard size discs
>have it work also as a DVD player if possible
>keep Rare
>don't snub the internet
>kill the handle and jewel
>make it royal blue or a wooden color
Everything else is a meme.

Invest in a time machine to travel back in time another ten years to fix the SNES CD debacle. There was no way the GCN was going to be successful after the N64, and no way the N64 was going to be successful with the PS1 in the picture.

>>11864987
Didn't fucking help there though.

>>11871113
None of this would saved it, its appeal was that it was cheap and could only play games that Christian moms approved of. Making it just another Xbox clone would have been counterproductive. Sega died because they didn't have a place in the market, Nintendo knew what theirs was.

>>11864846
The only great, world-historical answer itt.

>>11864836 (OP)
I call it the Lame Pube and the ad campaign is "for widdle babies that pee themselves" and you see bunch of nerds playing wind waker and crying with wet pants whilst a Sonychad skates past them holding a PS2 with a ton of hot babes chasing after him. And then the babes all laugh at the Nintendo losers.

>>11864886
Yeah, because oligarchy has never resulted in dumb fucks getting into power and making some of the dumbest of dumb fuck decisions this side of the Ukraine war.
>Inb4 REAL oligarchy has never been tried!

Switch the release date of Wind waker and Twilight princess

An edgy lord of the rings like Zelda in early 2000 would have been huge

>>11864836 (OP)
>Tell Aonuma to make Wind Waker a true sequel to Ocarina of time or fuck off
>Make sunshine a proper Mario64 sequel without fluud gimmick bullshit

>>11866035
>>Make Wind Waker seem more mature by not choosing for Toon Link but pic related
worst take on this entire board

>>11879610
Well or make Twilight Princess first. Most normies wanted something more mature.

>>11879610
>>11879621
What they actually should have done is push Raven Blade as the more mature counterpart to Zelda.
They really fumbled Retro early on. I'm not really sure what they were trying to do, hiring a company to make games for the Western audience, and then being non-responsive to all of the games they pitched for the Western audience.
I know Raven Blade was never really an actual game, but it's clearly a concept that should have been given a bit more time to cook.

>>11879621
That I can understand, even if normies don't know what they want.

>>11878890
The Gamecube had at least one game with straight up tits in it.

>>11879325
>he thinks his "democracy" isn't an oligarchy
This website is 18+ kiddo.

>>11864836 (OP)
>stronger Sega partnership (buy Sega if possible) I want 3 original Phantasy Star games for the gamecube
>cut the digital out
>cut two of the three expansion ports, no online
>cut price to $149.99
>animal crossing as the pack in game, word of mouth will sell a bunch of consoles to moms and kids
>don't sell rare, have them make as many multiplayer games as they can
>Melee available on launch day

its biggest problem is just that it didn't have a very big library. like, yeah, there were maybe two dozen games on it worth playing, but its total library was barely over 600 titles. the ps1 had over 3k.

>>11864836 (OP)
I would expand the online capabilities. Nintendo was too stubborn on not doing this, regardless if their intent was four people playing locally. Have Nintendo buy out Rare at their peak as well. Other than those I wouldn't change anything else, I loved that little Indigo lunchbox.

>>11864836 (OP)
It's probably too late, but I would have instead beefed up the GBA and never released a GameCube. Then I would have rode GBA for a decade.
> 50 MHz ARM CPU
> GPU with z-buffer
> 8 MB RAM
> 2 MB VRAM
> 480 × 360 px, 4” × 3” display
> 6 face buttons, 4 shoulder buttons, 2 analog sticks, start, select
> backlit screen with variable brightness
> stereo speakers, 3.5 mm headphone jack
> sizable rechargeable battery
> backwards compatible with GB/C
> link cable port that also functions as a peripheral port
> shitload of official accessories such as battery pack, car charger, Ethernet port, camera, AM/FM radio receiver, dock & TV audio/video out for home play, WiFi module

Basically a beefed up PS1 in terms of power.

It would have sold at one hell of a loss for a while, but hardware advanced so fast that a year later it would sell for manufacturing cost and a year after that at a profit.

I would also invest heavily in anti-piracy so I don't have to release a new fucking console soon.

Then around 2010 I would release a Game Boy Advance phone, with improved specs, backwards compatibility, and innate networking.

>>11880440
Forgot to add:
> dpad
> JRPGs from Square, whom I would have bought out after their movie flop along with Enix.

This plus Pokémon would have let Nintendo survive the dot com crash without issue

>>11880450
Also if it releases with a dock, I would increase the CPU & GPU clock rates & make them variable, but only active above a minimum if it is docked. I would also add a heat sink to the console & a fan to the dock.

>>11864862
>>11864894
>>11865051
>>11865795
these are my answers too.

>>11880796
>just make it a PS2 that also plays mario.
problem solved.

>>11864836 (OP)
Probably order the sssassinations of Jack Tretton and Ken Kutaragi.

>>11880440
Most retarded post I have ever read.

>>11880440
>>11880450
>>11880456
100% retardation

>>11864894
But what about sales? If you used regular DVDs, how would you prevent your games from being pirated, anon? Those little half-discs they made for Gamecube stopped piracy dead in its tracks.

>>11866035
>>Don't sell Rareware
They didn't; the Stampers auctioned off Rareware on their own expecting Nintendo to pay up, and Nintendo didn't want to play ball. Then Microsoft outbid both Nintendo and Activision at the eleventh hour with a boatload more than they were asking for, and Nintendo declined to buy it and proceeded to sell their 49% of the company.

But yes, the console needed a good catalog of games and actual killer apps instead of the gay shit Nintendo was pulling.

>>11864862
This. Take Donkey Kong, give him a real shotgun this time, have him defend his island from the humans, led by Mario, call it "DK: Banana War". Give it a healthy mix of open 3d platforming and cover shooter mechanics with a Halo-esque weapon sandbox and match-ups. Also a versus mode with support for 16 player LAN, include the adapter in the box. Basically make Shadow the Hedgehog but good. Also remember that microphone controller that came with Mario Party 4? include that with some pack-in karaoke games and beat Sony to the punch with Singstar while simultaneously one-upping whatever the dreamcast was trying to do. Both of these on launch day.

>>11864836 (OP)
Add a hard drive and bake in broadband. Hire Americans and/or ex-Sega guys and make online actually good. Promote PSO heavily and also add online functionality to Mario Kart Double Dash, Animal Crossing, and Metroid Prime (basically get the Hunters mode from DS and staple them in).

Develop Twilight Princess as an early gen game and make Windwaker the cross-gen one.

I miss when game consoles actually tried to look like a machine dedicated to playing videogames. They just LARP now as generic electronic devices and try to seem like something more intelligent than they are. Soulless. they are just home entertainment centers today packed with unneeded functions and as a result suck at the one thing they are supposed to do which is just playing a game. The less your machine looks like a console the more you know it’s going to suck because they probably wasted too many resources elsewhere to appeal to a wider purchase base. No I don’t need to stream on my console. I have a fucking television. No I don’t need to use the internet on this I have a fucking computer. No I don’t need social media support no I don’t fucking need to buy dominos through my fucking console. No I don’t want a fucking user interface that looks like modern flat style slop to pretend I’m not using a device dedicated to playing videogames. The more a console double downs on being a game console in name appearance UI etc the better you know it’s going to be at that function.

>>11882552
Game consoles today need to sell to adults and look good in a married couple's living room, you know, with all the plants and rugs and shit. A colorful N64 setup would just look tacky whereas a generic black rectangle looks just fine and blends in.

>>11882552
A console can look like a console without looking retarded like the Gamecube did. Hell the Xbox, the one people decry as "normie" the most looks and sounds as video games as it gets.

>>11882578
You are never going to get a monochrome console with the WALL-E aesthetic that is as honest and straightforward and non bullshit as the consoles that look like consoles. The design philosophy of the physical object will always tell you hints about what the team prioritized creating the console. The more that the console blends into some boring black and white modern millennial home the shittier it is going to be. a console that looks like a game console is going to prioritize the gaming experience first and foremost.


>>11882601
The original Xbox is really cool looking. There is nothing regarded looking about the GameCube I would argue the issue most people have with it is the color scheme, but if they made it all black it would not look that much different than the Xbox one series x or something. All black would just drown out all the detail and panel lines and shapes. It probably would have looked good in all white as well.

Let me guess you probably thought the n64 looked retarded also? They had the right idea making it in the default color scheme which was a unique charcoal color but making like 10 color variation to select from to suit individuals tastes. People can never articulate what it is about the GameCube visually they don’t like.

>>11864836 (OP)
Fucking buy Rare and put them to work on Banjo-Threeie, a Bad Fur Day sequel, Donkey Kong Racing, Perfect Dark Zero/2, let em do Grabbed by the Ghoulies and Kameo as side projects, and do whatever crazy ass projects they also had in mind.

Also port over the in development N64 version of Mother 3 to the gamecube to be an early release for it.

>>11882772
The black GC was available at launch (if you were boring). People had nothing to complain about, even at the time.

>>11882904
yeah but the black gamecube wasnt entirely black and so it probably wasnt enough for people who need to HIDE their consoles.its fucking asinine and makes no sense. i have brought plenty of people over for sex and made no effort to hide my videogame consoles who fucking cares? if people do not like that you have videogame consoles maybe you dont need them around anyway? if your company or friends judge you for it you have retarded friends and you are faking being someone you arent to keep them in your life hiding your shit trying to make it blend in.

>Full size DVD discs but using the CAV format (DVDs use CLV discs) and quad layer (18.8GB).
>Still no media playback as storage is far more important.
>SD card slot built in.
>Discs come in caddies that have flash ram built in so memory cards are not needed.
>Slot loading drive, 6X DVD drive.
>ZL and Select being part of the controllers.
>A, B, X and Y buttons being in a diamond shape rather then what it is.
>Bigger D-Pad.
>Right stick is the same as the left stick, also both sticks click and count as the SL and SR buttons.
>Shared 64MB of 1TSram built in, quad channel, 128-Bit bus, 10.4GBs
>Ram expansions up to 512MB.
>New analog AV output (24 pins) that allows for VGA, Component, digital audio (orange RCA jack) and D-Terminal, same for both NTSC and Pal so everyone can have RGB SCART and S-Video.
>HD ready up to 1080p through the digital port, most games will still be at 480p.
>32-Bit busses bumped up to 40-Bit to allow banks up to 1TB in size.
>WiFi (2.4GHz B and G) adaptor for serial port 1, not just Broadband (10BASE-T and 100BASE-T) and 56K.
>USB 2.0 Adaptor for serial port 2, also large enough to fit 2 USB A ports.
>Each serial port runs under it's own bus, no sharing.

>>11864836 (OP)
Even tho WW is one of my fav video games of all time… I’d give the ppl a realistic 3d Zelda at the beginning of its life cycle first instead of delivering it at the beginning of the Wii life cycle

>>11883127
This is a logical answer. Cel shading was trendy at the time I guess. Cel damage, robotech battle cry, jet set radio, I’m sure there are other games I can’t remember. But it’s on brand for Nintendo to pointlessly reinvent the wheel all the time for the sake of being different. This works until it doesn’t. Cel shading seems like a side game spinoff use case and not a mainline entry art style. It’s kind of retarded because when they made melee they showed off really good looking CGI of Samus and link and other characters and I think it gave everyone the false hope that these characters would all get games that made an attempt to look somewhat realistic with the brand new hardware. (Metroid may not be a perfect example because we got prime, but we didn’t get a 2d Metroid game with good graphics we got a FPS game with good graphics) again reinventing the wheel. Miyamoto was the one who came up with it because he noticed FPS was becoming popular. It was a smart move but they completely said fuck it giving the fans what they actually wanted which was at least one console 2d Metroid game. it could have just used the fucking melee smash model.

>>11883698
>giving the fans what they actually wanted which was at least one console 2d Metroid game
Nobody wanted to play 2D games on the big screen in the Y2K era, at least on their brand new consoles. If they came out with something like Dread on the Gamecube,, everyone would have complained that it wasn't an FPS.

>>11864836 (OP)
I'd make sure that my games were cheaper than the competition.

I'd also make sure the piracy was impossible by making sure the console can only read Gamecube discs and won't accept any other format, similar to how some Xbox consoles can't read CD-R's, which made it a pain for me to transfer songs I downloaded from the internet onto my Xbox hard drive at the time, such as Slipknot's Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat album. I was like..."fucking faggots!".

If Xbox's can't read CD-R's, then I think they can't read DVD-R's either, but I haven't had the chance to test that because I never had any DVD-R discs, plus DVD burners were expensive back then, so I only had a CD-R burner for my PC. I do have a DVD burner now, but I don't ever really use it as I get everything digitally now.

>>11864836 (OP)
Put a sticker onnit that says "sorry, this console is for people with friends, faggot."

Seems to be the biggest reason to hate it. Single controller ass jealous losers.

>>11884284
Unless your friend group was a bunch of freaks and losers (aka Nintendo fans), you'd have been laughed at for whipping out one of these retarded lunchboxes. I'm sorry to break this to you, anon, but the cool kids were busy playing Madden on their Xbox whilst getting sucked off by the cheerleading squad when you were bing bing wahooing with a bunch of obese furries.

>>11883987
My Xbox does not read DVD-R's. I tested it. I haven't used it in years and luckily for you, I had the DVD remote for it. It plays other DVD's fine, just not DVD-R's.

>>11864836 (OP)
They should have pushed FPS a lot more. Also all what their controller needed was a left shoulder button and a proper analog stick for the right. Would have also helped if they somehow could steal the rights of Halo right out from under Microsoft but then they probably wouldn't have had the foresight to make Bungie change Halo enough to become what it was. Really they should have just tried hard to go after the shooter on consoles audience because that is where the market was shifting towards by the start of the 2000s.

>>11864836 (OP)
I go back in time further and redesign the thing to have a proper controller layout (IE, a not gimped right stick and proper L1/R1). Secure deals to get FFX and other PS2 exclusive games to release on GC as well. Also make it not look like a lunchbox for toddlers. Another key point would be developing it's online capabilities before it released, to something closer to Xbox. Also full sized DVDs, fuck the proprietary shit. With this in mind, I would try hard to get these to also release on GC:
- Halo (it was meant for GC at some point)
- DMC
- MGS2 and 3 after Twin Snakes.
- FFX

Also, make WW a proper OOT followup instead. Aonuma is kept on dungeon design and have Koizumi lead Zelda development alongside Miyamoto.

>>11866524
It's stupid considering nothing about PoR specifically made it sell poorly, rather not a single person bought GC for RPGs. PoR's audience was all on PS2 playing shit like Berwick Saga in Japan.

>>11883987
>similar to how some Xbox consoles can't read CD-R's
What models couldnt do this, early or later? I got the one that came with the S controller and Tetris Worlds/Clone Wars, and that one let me read CDR discs to copy music to the system.

>>11884362
Bummer.

>>11884554
Early I think because this was back in 2003 when my friend sold me his Xbox since he needed money at the time. But after doing a google search, I heard that there were several different DVD drives Xbox was using, some of them didn't read burn discs too well, which could explain why it didn't read my CD-R.

>>11884504
>- Halo (it was meant for GC at some point)

This isn't true and has never been true.

Halo was meant for the Mac, then moved to Xbox.

>>11864836 (OP)
>2001
It's already over at that point because the PS2 has been out for a year

>>11864886

>>11884482
The GC has dozens of FPS games. An argument could be made that it could have done with an exclusive multiplayer heavy game like Timeslplitters, but then again, you could also just play Timesplitters. It kind of became moot at that point.
You had Metroid Prime and Geist, both of which were Nintendo doing their "we're going to take this popular thing, and try to put a spin on it" routine, and you had Starfox Assault, which was whatever that game was.

There's an argument to be made that RE4 and Killer 7 were both meant to be GC exclusives, and both performed better on GC, as a result.

>>11885815
This is actually true. The unwashed masses had a PS2 for their slop games. If you're an enthusiast you also had one but for the massive library consisting of great exclusives and hidden gems.

>>11886012
Katamari Damacy honestly is a game I would not have spent money on.
That's the thing about "hidden gems". They're mostly games that are cool after the fact, when you can get them significantly reduced, or for free.

>>11886063
There are tons of games that I never got to play because I didn't see appeal of it, at that time.
Still so many games to play.

>>11881225
cover shooters were popularized on the 360 tho

>>11886012
As much as I like the ps2 I really do think it’s the slop console of that gen. But it’s just the worst console of a gen that is really good. I think I read it’s mainly due to them making it really fucking cheap to publish your game for the console. So like every retard could put their shitty ass fucking 2010 iPhone game tier project on a ps2 disc. so it just had an unreal amount of garbage games. Yes it’s true utility is that it is a hidden gem console you must dig through an ungodly amount of trash but it has many good games I’m sure I still do not know about or glossed over some how.

>>11886063
You are insane, i would buy Katamari for the PS2 for 50 dollars and it sold for 20 dollars at launch.

>>11886815
>I really do think it’s the slop console of that gen.
Yeah it is, not early PS2 but later on I think. That is where all the shovelware and generic licenced games started to come out.
I think that tons of normies also didn't have a PS2 until 2003/2004 or something so slop developers didn't focus on them. You can also see that with Wii, how that console has so much shovelware because a large part of the userbase are normies and casuals.
I started to have a negative view of PS2 in the mid-2000s because of how many normies had one and were playing generic games on it.

>>11886831
It's just an exercise in whimsy, with almost no game. I'd sooner play Crazy Taxi.

Nothing.
Nobody at Nintendo wanted this thing to succeed. Even if they put in the effort and actually had a decent opening lineup, they would just have abandoned it anyway because it didn't reach their fantasy quota.

>>11885902
But none of those games had the appeal and marketing push that Halo had. Halo worked so well because it excelled as a console FPS while also having the proper themes and setting that really put it over the top. In short, it provided a feel that those other games you mentioned just could not provide at the time. Only Metroid Prime truly deserves to be seen as legendary on this list you posted but even that game was really just single player Metroid this time in first person.

Halo was FPS on consoles made easy, it had sci-fi, it had military themes, aliens. It was the right game series that came at the right time. Seen anons mention it before but even the politics of the day with Bush as president also subtly hints at why Halo succeeded back then. The whole country had a different mindset and culture at that time that Halo kind of succeeded at pushing through a very subtle way. COD goes on to carry this torch some years after Halo's initial success but Halo really did help out here a lot. Again, Timesplitters does not hold a candle to Halo in terms of being able to grab the attention of normie gamers. It had to be Halo, just like it had to be COD years later.

>>11889169
>just make Halo, bro
I mean, people were trying at the time. How did that go with Killzone? Did they beat Halo?
There's a lot to be said about how Halo basically had the luck of the draw, and wasn't even that good of a game, but I'll restrain myself

>>11884504
I say they needed GTA on the console as well. GTA3, VC, SA, these games all sold way too well for them to pass up on such sales success. I think SA in particular was the best selling game of that generation. Also would have been nice to get the Silent Hill games on the console as well.

>>11889183
>How did that go with Killzone? Did they beat Halo?
Killzone noticeably felt like a cheap shitty edgy attempt by Sony using some no name company to dethrone Halo. Then it comes out, you get no jump button, the game runs at a crawling 15fps and it was just a complete mess of a first attempt. Not to mention the fake E3 trailer with the second game but this is getting a bit off track. Point being KZ1 failed because it wasn't a very good attempt at being a Halo competitor. It wasn't even a great game. Average at best is being kind here.

>>11889209
>KZ1 failed
>failed
This word has lost all meaning.

>>11889224
It did fail. Only reason why Sony continued on with the franchise is because they wanted to salvage it that is all. The fake E3 trailer for KZ2 certainly generated a lot of buzz for the sequel for awhile. For what it is worth, KZ2 is a fantastic game and a huge step up in quality. But this isn't about KZ its about the Gamecube. Come to think about it I wouldn't be surprised if that game would be able to run much better on the Xbox or GC.

>>11864836 (OP)
Make the best possible ports of Ultimate Doom and Doom II for it. Maybe even combine the two on a single disc and call it 'DOOM + DOOM II'

>>11889240
>It did fail
No it was a success. 2 Million units is not a failure. So much of a success they greenlit a sequel and SCEA put out internal materials to use it as a key game to generate interest. It's also a pretty good FPS. Not great but when you get a feel for it the experience is a unique one. It's a flawed game. I believe it could run decently on an Xbox, but it's a particle heavy game which would likely struggle on cube.

>force nintendo to use a non retarded controller Something like the switch pro controller would be fine
>Every game and port would have to end in "Cube", following the trend of '64. So it would be Resident Evil4Cube, Metroid PrimeCube, Zelda Wind WakerCube etc. Thats is how you know you are playing quality
>They'd have to adapt my game "CrimeCube" a roguelike first person open world crime game which would absolutely destroy Grand Theft Auto
>The Splinter Cell port, and the 007 Nightfire port: All the 3D characters would need to be replaced with fat women. Just trust me on this one.

>>11890073
Something like this for starters, but with ZL and ZR being analog triggers, clickable sticks (counting as SL and SR) and that controller stays the same going forward, just wireless 2.4Ghz (later Bluetooth), AA Battery power (later custom rechargeable and USB compatible (for charging and wired mode for reduced input lag).

>>11873931
Twilight Princess was a by product of Wind Waker you dumb waifufag

>>11864836 (OP)
Everyone saying make Melee a launch title is either ignorant or blind to how damaging the melee community was to the reputation of the console and Nintendo as a whole. The main demographic of kids who had GameCubes during 6th gen were moderately to severely autistic nerds who were always asking if you wanted to play smash, and one night of melee with one of those guys was enough to scare any normalfag away from Nintendo for decades to come. I'm not claiming that catering to normalfags is a smart way to make good games, but you do need normalfags to buy your console for it to succeed

>>11864836 (OP)
Add a left hand Z button, select button, a top on the C stick, and enlarge the dpad. There, now your controller isn't completely ass for third parties to adapt their games to. The face button layout can stay.

Put the decoder chip for 480p video in the console.

Broadband modem is out day 1. Online multiplayer on consoles was guaranteed by that point and Nintendo to this day is still playing catch up.

Not Cube related, but I would encourage to pack the GBA-Cube link cable in with every GBA. I swear Nintendo wouldn't have gotten buck broken over that if they didn't make it a separate purchase considering how much they shilled it.

>>11864894
>Also use standard DVDs rather than mini-discs
Not happening, nobody wanted to pay royalties to Sony for those. Microsoft only went with them because they had money and they still tried to shave off paying fees by bundling the DVD playback function in a separate add-on.

>>11886012
>>11886815
>>11888202
>PS2
>le slop!
Tell everyone you're retards who can't understand basic bitch economics.
>>11889246
>No it was a success. 2 Million units is not a failure.
It was nothing compared to Halo, and as anon said here >>11889209 the subsequent games were an attempt to salvage a good premise for a game that had a shitty first outing that survived on being presented as a "halo killer", not because it was a good game.
>but it's a particle heavy game which would likely struggle on cube.
It barely ran on PS2, even journos noticed it.

>>11891131
The Wii says hi.
The gold is to use CAV discs instead of CLV discs which is what the Wii did, also quad layer disks at 18.8GB.

>>11891061
Literally no one thought Melee was a bad or embarrassing game until fighting game sweaties got all mad about the EVO thing.

>>11889241
>Make the best possible ports of Ultimate Doom and Doom II for it. Maybe even combine the two on a single disc and call it 'DOOM + DOOM II'
As much as I love DOOM it was old news by the time the GC released. It wouldn't make any difference whatsoever.

Go all-in on online as a hail mary and try to beat Xbox and PS2 to it.
>Melee online
>Soul Calibur online
>Star Fox co-op and vs. online
>Mario Kart online
>Goldeneye online
>Crystal Chronicles Online
>Phantasy Star Online
>Animal Crossing Online
Etc.

>>11864836 (OP)
>games on normal DVDs, no price-gouging publishers and developers with gay proprietary formats
>DVD player functionality built in and advertised
>reasonably sized d-pad on the controller that can actually be used for 2D games
>normal right thumbstick instead of the c-stick
>left bumper and select button so the controller has as many buttons as the Dualshock 2
>make the B button a bean like X and Y

I think that's all that really needs fixing.

>>11864836 (OP)
I would replace it entirely with a slightly suped up n64 that was much cheaper to manufacture with a giant profit margin and add a gimmick like motion controls

>>11864836 (OP)
>2001
By then it was too late. You'd have to go back to the early design phase of the console.
But minor shit would be not to make the damn thing purple at launch.
>>11864846
Nintendo's financial woes say otherwise. GC almost killed Nintendo and Wii was their last Hail Mary, which turned out extremely successful in many thanks to Reggie pushing NoJ to bundle Wii Sports with it in the West.

>>11865795
>Daikatana
Which was surprisingly far worse than the PC version.

>>11891061
Smash was just a fun party game for me in the early 2000's. Pizza and staying up late with friends and cousins. Thankfully I didnt associate myself with sweaty autistics who'd ruin the game nor knew anyone who'd do such until I was in college by 07.

>>11891204
>that survived on being presented as a "halo killer"
Man I remember every FPS or hell even TPS (See: Brute Force) was called a potential 'Halo killer' by the press or a publisher.

>>11891478
>games on normal DVDs, no price-gouging publishers and developers with gay proprietary formats
>DVD player functionality built in and advertised
Again, not happening. That would require payments to Sony, especially with DVD movie playback.
>>11891363
And much did those drop in price to make by 2006?
>>11891907
>Nintendo's financial woes say otherwise. GC almost killed Nintendo and Wii was their last Hail Mary
Close, but it was the DS that was the Hail Mary, their "rise to heaven or sink to hell" system as they called it.

>>11892757
>Again, not happening. That would require payments to Sony, especially with DVD movie playback.
Did you miss OP's whole premise? Here's a reminder:
>You are transported back in time to 2001 and are placed in a position of highest authority within Nintendo.
I'm in charge, so I'm doing it. That would have saved the Gamecube.

>>11892767
>I'm in charge, so I'm doing it. That would have saved the Gamecube.
Congrats, Nintendo is now in even more financial trouble. But you're the boss, so have at it.

>>11892772
They're not if it causes the Gamecube to reclaim exclusives, bring in every multiplat, and sell 2-3 times as many units as it did.

>>11892757
>require payments to Sony
It would not. Nintendo also has no problem paying partners for their product, that's fanfiction concocted by fanboys on the internet.

>>11864836 (OP)
Idk man.. Maybe I just.. uh.. Ask them to actually put some games on the fucking thing?

>>11892823
Missing some, I'd count Dino Crisis 3 and Dino Stalker (for fun) but Code Veronica X was also on cube. I don't think so many Western properties should be omitted however. Mortal Kombat, Crash, Spyro, Burnout, etc.

>>11892828
That's honestly the biggest problem with all 6th generation consoles (excluding the Dreamcast for obvious reasons): the PS2 had EVERYTHING. You only bought a GameCube if you had to Bing Bing Wahooo or HIYAAA. Otherwise, there really was no point. Sony's library just mogged everything.

>>11892834
>PS2 had EVERYTHING
Just about, and whatever it didn't have but was on Xbox and GC was always better on Xbox.

>>11892850
Microsoft's first console was held afloat by Halo & Halo 2. If they had actually worked with Japan, like they wanted, and had some of the titles that were deemed system sellers, they'd have trounced everyone that gen.

Luckily they learned from this mistake and rectified it with the 360, but yeah, a competent Microsoft during the 6th Gen would have literally buried both Sony and Nintendo.

>>11892858
Also Rare.

>>11892823
I think at a certain point (late 6th gen) developers looked at the console market-share and saw how there was no financial reason to even port games to Xbox/GC, even though they could have handled it. Xbox had the best multiplats usually, it could have handled all of these games easily. It's also weird how Xbox and GC had some entries of franchises like SC2 but not the rest.

>>11892858
PS2 also had PS1 BC. That helped too, having access to 8000+ games.

>>11871020
Forgetting about metroid prime

>>11879647
Bmxxx, the tits in that were very disappointing