>>11893380 (OP)The peak of anything Sega is found in the glory days of their arcade division in the mid 90s. Any other opinion is wrong and therefore discarded. Be less of a zoomer. There isn't a single Sonic game that belongs in an all-time top 10 of Sega titles.
>>11893412Sonic Adventure is easily the number 1 sega game. Pre-emptively calling others a zoomer won't make you sound like less of one when you say some stupid shit like this post.
>>11893458Zoomers equate Sega with Sonic and can't name more than 5 Sega games
>Sonic, Yakuza, the list goes on...
>>11893380 (OP)No, this was. Sonic was already a b list star in 1999 (the start of the 00s)
In the 90s, we actually saw him be the biggest star in the world
>>11893380 (OP)One of the worst game i have ever played and i'm dead serious
The stone snake
The controls
The hub worlds
The glitchs
Just awfull
>>11893473>Sonic was already a b list star in 1999 (the start of the 00s)Wat.
What other fucking game mascot was doing well in the 00s?
>>11893762Are you kidding? It was the last boom of platformer characters, and just about all were more popular and got better reviews than Sonic. This was when Sonic was falling in popularity, Sega itself died as a console, and right before Sonic became the biggest "lolcow" for about ten years from the mid 00s-mid 10s
>Crash>Spyro>Jak and Daxter>Ratchet and Clank>Sly CooperAll kinda ate Sonic's lunch in this time period while he became "weird", when in the 90s he was second only to Mario's already massive popularity, but certainly considered the "cooler" or "less dorky" of the two
>>11893792I liked Spyro as a kid, Crash is OK, but I'm not really a big platformer guy outside of Sonic and various shit from the 16 bit era like Rocket Knight, but Sonic is just one of those childhood things as a whole I don't really let go of because he was basically my hero when I was 4. Sonic definitely started to sink in reputation starting with the 3D games, and it got worse, then better more recently
I know because as a Sega kid I basically witnessed my first real sense of "defeat" as Sega crumbled with the Dreamcast and it pissed me the hell off
>>11893476Where the FUCK Sonic CD is?
>>11893821Do you want to throw hands?
I think the reason why Sonic Adventure has been meme'd so hard even though it's a terrible game is that zoomers keep playing it - like legitimately the first "retro" game a zoomer and alpha will play is probably Sonic Adventure. Think about it. What other game would pull kids into retro games? Of course it would be this piece of shit game
>>11894240Sonic got memed on and made fun of for so long during Zoomers lives, once they became teens/adults old enough to have nostalgia, it combined with the "post-ironic" culture they have where they love everything hated on like Limp Bizkit and Nickelback and Space Jam and The Phantom Menace, so the fact that they remember Sonic being a joke online, only makes them jerk off the 3D era more
And like, that's what it is, I don't hate the 3D era part of me is glad it gets more love now just like 3D Mortal Kombat, but when they act like it was peak Sonic, it's borderline offensive because Sonic was fucking literally coming for Mario's throat in the early-mid 90s, he was way more popular even if games didn't sell more
>>11894294Ask me how I know you're a zoomer
>>11894313I'm not, but you're just saying random shit without any coherence.
>>11894438>I'm notbig doubt. Either way you're retarded
>>11894240zoomers did not play SA. the earliest ones were still in their diapers when it came out. you really need to stop peeing and pooping your pants over younger generations because you're upset that you're getting older fatter and balder, anon. it's very unbecoming and just paints you as the screeching manchild you are
>>11894701sounds like I hit the nail on the head and youre having trouble coping
>>11894709>n-no u...i don't need to cope because i live in reality unlike you where zoomers are around every corner and are the result of every malady in your life.
>>11894743Zoomers could be here. . .
>>11893380 (OP)I think this is segas peak
>>11893476god I prefer classic over modern too but this is the stupidest shit Ive ever read, classic sonic games are so overrated theyre not as genius as people make them out to be
>>11894240Iโm not even really a sonic fan but always liked the game. In the 90s and 2000s I primarily liked starwars and halo videogames and stuff like doom and quake and ninja gaiden black etc. but I remember seeing sonic adventure on the Dreamcast on a demo kiosk at toysrus and being impressed by it thinking something about it seemed interesting just playing it briefly. When it got ported to the GameCube I had a good amount of fun with it. I donโt think I ever finished it but would just replay random stages and explore around aimlessly. i also have never finished a Mario game. but Sonic adventure is a game that has a certain appeal to just explore and fuck around in.
>>11895591Maybe the only way to save sonic from his fate is for masterchief to have opened up a wormhole during halo 2 and for sonic to have received his own spartan armor and after defeating the covenant sonic and chief would eliminate egg man once and for all. Finishing Sonicโs fight as well. Sonic would also say something like โfuck you.โ Before shooting egg man. Masterchief would then hand him a Mountain Dew and look at the player reminding them to stay hydrated while gaming.
>>11894701Early zoomers played DX and 2B on their preowned Gamecube then made crappy Chao videos on Youtube pointing a camera at their CRTs, this is a fact
>>11896458Those were late millennials. The oldest zoomer would have been 6 when DX released.
>>11896764Oh yeah I forgot that one year after a game comes out all the copies are confiscated and thrown into an incinerator. My bad, my childhood memories must have been fake
>>11896851So you watched a bunch of videos make by 10 year olds? That's on you
>>11896870What the fuck are you babbling about
Adventure is a goddamned embarrassment, on par with Balan Wonderworld.
i like the Adventure games, possibly love them.
but i don't defend them, i know what they are.
it all started around 1995. your only options for "new" Sonic games were 3D Blast or buy a Saturn just to play a little 3D segment in Jam.
Yuji Naka wanted to replace Sonic with an IP he had more control over, and so personally cancelled at least 3 different Sonic games we know about, in order to force SEGA to push NiGHTS. it didn't work.
so 1998 comes, and SEGA unveils their new "Sonic RPG," now called Sonic Adventure. because they realized abandoning their top selling, world famous mascot to the dumpster was actually a retarded idea.
but they waited too long. Naughty Dog had already eaten their lunch with the easy layup. and of course Mario had dominated everything and one. so they just threw everything in. that's why Sonic Adventure is a little bit of everything.
Sonic Adventure was born the moment someone in a room full of SEGA execs said
>Quick, what's a recent game we made that's doing well? SEGA Bass Fishing? Ok, put it in.
they didn't know what to do with 3D Sonic so they did everything. you've got a Panzer Dragoon segment, kart racing, whack a mole, minigames, all kinds of stuff.
i don't hate Sonic Adventure 2, but i do think 1 is the better game. everyone had already heard the word that the Dreamcast was getting axed and SEGA making an exit while development was still going on. so they knew it would be the end. they were still putting out screenshots after SEGA's announcement, the game didn't release until months later.
i think you can see the team's knowledge of all this reflected in the design. fewer gameplay types, less overall content stretched out for longer (way fewer minigames, no exploring HUBs, have to do levels 5 times instead of 3).
Sonic Adventure was SEGA throwing spaghetti at the wall.
Sonic Adventure 2 was SEGA looking at the biggest chunks that stuck and trying to make a whole game around just those.
>>11893790>Sonic became the biggest "lolcow" for about ten yearsAll thanks to Pokemon (and Family Guy)
>>11898031I donโt get you faggots who try to downplay Chrisโs love of Sonic, his entire comic is about recolors.
>>11898038>post the byproduct Love it when fangame fags and anti-Adventure don't know their Sonic history, only relying on cope posts about how some fish eyes lens game was the saving grace of 3D Sonic, not the people who made an isometric Sonic and a racing game.
>>11898043they made 10 games.
1 of them was cancelled.
1 of them was mostly completed by the time they started helping.
2 of them were Japanese teams.
Kid Chameleon and Comix Zone were good.
>>11898047The comic starts off as a Pikachu isekai-ing into a hedgehog with family guy jokes all over the places.
Also Christian is a self-aware jackass.
>>11898053oh man, is your face going to be red when you realize that's not Xtreme.
read its filename
>>11898060you know what, Spinball was good too.
so that's at least 3 out of the remaining 6 games that were good.
STI did fine.
>>11898060>they made 10 games.None of which are Sonic
>b-but Sonic 1...2...Barely contributed to the projects beyond bugtesting, scrapping cool ideas, and pitching a few levels for STH2, which most got scrapped too LOL
>2 of them were Japanese teams.We are talking about STI's western teams
>Kid Chameleon and Comix Zone were good.Comix Zone is a fluke that still got bash for dubious choices like and not a single soul cares about Kid Chameleon and its gorillion levels.
>>11898070No shit retard, that's the Jam hub.
Why do you think it exists? Hint: it's not because of some in-fighting Americans hacks who couldn't finish shit and begged japanese devs for their shit.
>>11898080>dubious choices like-Forgot to mention about the self-damage shit.
>>11898072>Spinball was good too.Okay Ian Flynn