I'm trying to figure out the best way to do the NES versions of the FF games and it's kind of a hassle and could use some help. As far as I can figure:
>FF1
Chaos Rush translation patch if you just want a proper translation.
Restored hack if you want the original translation but a bunch of bug fixes and optional changes on top of it.
>FF2
Chaos Rush translation patch + standalone B button dash patch included with it + Restored for the bug fixes patched in that order. I can't find information if the CR patch by default comes with the B button dash or not without having to use the included patch.
>FF3
Just the Chaos Rush translation patch.

Do I have that about right? I know 3 has the Maeson patch which is a full overhaul but I'm just trying to figure out basic things like the best patches and dash patches.

>>11895364 (OP)
Some of us played them in shit like rocknes or nesticle with whatever the fuck autistic translation was available at the time. Just enjoy the games anon.

>>11895374
That wasn't the question. I just want to know what is the current best, that's it. It doesn't matter if you played the originals or with translations that aren't even accurate. We have better now and I simply want to know what is better overall because we don't have to deal with bad emulators or translations anymore.

What's the point of autistically playing the originals if you're gonna have to patch 7 times over? At that point you're not playing the original either. Makes no sense

FF1 and FF2 on PSP or GBA are perfectly acceptable versions
PR for 3

I just play JP versions.

>>11895387
Because I just want a better translation while still having the original experience, I don't think that's crazy to ask for.

>>11895391
But the game is broken. FF2 is broken as fuck, so no, you're also patching the game mechanics too

>>11895396
>FF2 is broken as fuck
I know, hence the Restored bug fixes. I want the original visuals with a better translation, and in 2's case I specifically mentioned Restored for the bug fixes. It doesn't seem like 1 has the bug fixes without getting a significantly worse translation, and 3 seems the most stable.

>>11895401
Yeah which is why I pointed out that you're not actually getting the original experience you seem to so desperately want

>>11895403
I want the visuals, gameplay, and experience without the bugs or terrible translations. I'm not that ridiculous that I want the barebones experience, I'm not a masochist.

>>11895385
I'm saying stop being so fucking entitled and just play the damn games. You might even learn to appreciate what those patches and shit actually fix.

>>11895434
>You might even learn to appreciate what those patches and shit actually fix.
I have literally already played them which is why I'm asking this question in the first place because it's been a while.

>>11895449
Then preface it with that you fucking tard. Center the discussion around which patches and translations people prefer, instead of essentially using the zoomer template of
>Hey fellow retro gamers! Whats the most authentic and accurate way to play these old games?!

>>11895405
>I'm not that ridiculous that I want the barebones experience, I'm not a masochist.
NTA, but what the fuck is wrong with you, anon? You come on here and demand everyone tell you exactly what you want, which is entirely subjective and incredibly niche, and then begin to equate playing a normal game with some type of sexual fetish or even some type of torturous experience. Kids played these games, anon, and they were happy as fucken clams. Nobody can tell you what the "best" fan mods are gonna be, dude. You've gotta figure that out for yourself. Most people are gonna tell you the originals are better. If you are gonna have some kind of mental breakdown over this shit, then maybe it's not really your cup of tea. It doesn't seem like you're really interested in having fun here. It seems like you just wanna check some boxes and do it in a way that's going to be palatable for your dubious tastes, which is why you aren't getting what you want.

>>11895461
>You come on here and demand everyone tell you exactly what you want
I'm asking the most basic of basic things. "What is the best current translation patch?" and "Is there anything else I missed?" It's why I started the entire thread specifically listing the patches I found from searching already and just want to make sure I didn't miss something, particularly with 2 which I'm not sure if I have to slap the B dash on it after the translation patch or if it's already included.

I more or less deduced that Chaos Rush seems to be the most accurate and best version nowadays but maybe I'm wrong in some way, and I haven't used these patches.

>>11895364 (OP)
>actually using the Chaos Rush patches
Is this a bait thread or OP really is this retarded?

>>11895434
>>11895374
>>11895458
Dude you're such a dumb faggot.

/vr/ really proving themselves posers that don't actually play the games they jerk off in this thread.

Sorry, Op. I'd help but I honestly just played the PSP versions of 1 and 2 and the 3D version of 3

>>11895495
OP unironically comes off as an obnoxious moron so I don't blame that anon for reacting like that

>>11895501
Not really. Dude just asked the basic bitch questions of 'what's the best translation' and 'what's the best bug fix patch' and people start whining about him not playing the game right. It's peak retarded poser that cares more about some retarded 'street cred' then actually playing the games themselves

>>11895502
Nah, Op could have just formed it like an actual discussion instead of just pining for "The best experience."

>>11895405
Well I can tell you you don't need to bother with dash patches because if you're an emulator you'll fast forwarding all the time cause the games are boring as fuck especially on NES

>>11895405
Well I can tell you that you don't need to bother with dash patches because if you're on emulator you'll be fast forwarding all the time cause the games are boring as fuck especially on NES

>>11895391
>translation
>original experience
Pick one, you can't have both.

>>11895497
you literally entered a retro games thread admitting you have played 0 retro games and consider yourself above the people here? do you even process the shit you spew?

>>11896407
This is the sad truth EOPs need to accept sooner rather than later. The life of a translation consumer is just a nesting doll of copes and copes within copes. If you cant read japanese your foundation is already fucked stop trying perfect your experience.

>>11896418
>he learned a whole language to play videogames
lmao
imagine

>>11896429
damn the dude I said had a cope problem retorted with a crazy cope. Sure showed me.

>>11896435
Isn't it more that after spending years wasting your time learning a mostly useless language (unless you live in Japan), you need to keep justifying it online? I think it's more that

>>11896435
That's not how "cope" is even used. We get it, you discovered an internet buzzword a few years late and want to use it badly.
It IS insane to care so much about "developer's intent" and translation issues that you learn a language just to read original text in video games. Even if you learn the language there's a ton of nuance and common phrases that you wouldn't understand the subtext anyway.

>>11896450
>you dont understand what cope means
>unrelated to that even if I did know japanese I still wouldnt understand what im reading so whats the point
the comedy is astronomical.

>>11896457
What IS the point? Even if you were perfect in conversational Japanese (which you aren't) what do you gain from this? A few censored scenes, a few scenes where the text was shortened to fit english, and the occasional tonal difference that impacts, say, how you perceive some minor NPC... My favorite games are FFs, but the story is never that deep.
AND you get mad that other people aren't like you. That's the real comedy here.

>>11896418
>>11896429
>>11896435
>>11896441
>>11896450
>>11896457
>>11896471
You said you wanted the original experience. Either you want the original experience or your don't, stop trying to move the goalpost. If you want the original experience than you're going to need to pay in Japanese
>But-!
Whatever you're about to say, don't. You already said you want the original experience. Don't try to move the goalpost now by saying that the original experience doesn't matter. You already demonstrated that it DOES matter and that you want to experience it.

>>11896471
>AND you get mad that other people aren't like you
never got mad. I said when you are an EOP you arent playing the original game you are playing telephone with some white guy in the middle. You can either accept that or do something about it. I did something about it and am infinitely happier. Id say you are content with reading english but you're projecting anger onto me so im not so sure honestly.

>>11896484
you're actually retarded if you think all those people you quoted are the same person.
The OP probably isn't even here anymore cause he got blasted so hard

>>11896487
Don't respond to him. He's responding in anger because he can't rationalize what he's been told. Just let him be, it's his loss. He will never have the original experience that he desires so much.

>>11896497
It's two people, both of which are responding after I said OP needs to pick one because he can't have both.

>>11896487
>>11896501
Yeah. No one is saying japanese release is not the original experience - it is. We're just pointing and laughing at you for learning a language to play video games, that's all. I don't think OP is even here.

>>11895364 (OP)
You made a big mistake if you asked this question here not expecting half the replies to tell you to either play vanilla or kys. According to /vr/ you should be playing either the shitty original translated version or the JP versions and with no bugfixes whatsoever. To hell with developer intent, all that matters is what got shat out into stores.

>>11896510
>To hell with developer intent
Yeah because all of the Romhacks were done by Sakaguchi and Nasir

>>11896512
Yes, I'm sure Sakaguchi intended English players to suffer from confusing errors and Nasir intended half the spells not to work. I bet you wouldn't play a beta 1.0 pre-bugfix patch version of a modern game. Why are NES games so different?

am i allowed to say pixel remastered here

am i allowed to say pixel remastered here

i feel like the pixel remastered series has obsoleted all NES/SNES FF games with the bugfixing, boost mechanic, proper translation, and better but still kinda sorta retro graphics

i own ff1, ff6, and once i clear SMT, i'm gonna pick up ff4 and ff5

Gronds for 1 before it became a total conversion hack

Demonic Pandemonium for 2

Maeson + ad0220 for 3

>>11896429
The point is you're interested in the culture the language comes from.

>>11895396
A few spells don't work, you in effect just don't use them. Spells that do work have a lifespan to them, and even useful status ailment spells will still wind up not having any effect on a group of 9 enemies. You need to actually play games instead of handwringing about what's "broken" and thinking it's off-limits.

>>11895465
spoonfed retard

>>11895465
You need to just play the game and finish it instead of fretting about which version is the correct one.

>>11896704
It looks like absolute shit. Just look at the spells. It's all high-fidelity like you're playing Ori and the Blind Forest. But the things the spells are hitting look like Gameboy monsters. It's complete trash. GBA and PSP are the best. But you have to play on emulator for the speedup cause these games are fucking annoying and boring without that.

Also, worth noting that FF2 Pixel Remaster doesn't have portraits. FF2 is filled with drama, characters actually emote a lot, so not having that is terrible. That also applies to FF4 pretty sure

>>11895364 (OP)
Just press start. Stop using gay ass mods. They aren't even difficult games.

>>11897201
This.

>>11895385
>current best
Hate to break it to you, but the homebrew/translation scene is just a tower of babel. There is no best version other than learning japanese.

>>11897208
Keep telling yourself that. You wasted years of your life learning it, so you better

>>11895489
Not OP, but the ChaosRush versions of II & III are basically script ports of the GBA & DS versions, respectively, just with the text differences in the Famicom originals retranslated. So yes, those are the ideal ways of playing NES II-III, at least until someone decides to make a PR script port for III.
But the bugfixshit is gay insecure bullshit, people want to play the old versions to for the retro non-'QoL' experience, try to find a patch version that just changes the text and nothing else if you can, if they don't exist anymore then you SoL and should just accept the mediocre decline of romhacking and just go for the PS/PR version.
And >>11895364 (OP) ChaosRush FFI is different because it's basically a from-scratch translation since it hasn't been done in ROM form, sadly I couldn't bear to keep playing after an NPC told me "Garland was a good night" (I'm pretty sure that spelling error was corrected now, but still).

>>11896517
>half
not even close

>>11897214
>The english version is better anyway! But if it wasnt learning Japanese is impossible for a non native speaker! But if it wasnt learning it would be a waste of time anyway! But if it wasnt AI will obsolete knowing a different language anyway!
Like I said before its a matryoshka of cope, stop projecting and just accept your lot.

>>11897397
>AI outta nowhere
Yeah I bet you're mad as fuck you learned japanese and then a year later AI became a thing

>>11897426
NTA but it's a skill to have for yourself.

>>11897426
You need to stop lashing out and just be content man. If I called you fat and you were skinny would you be upset? If I called you brown and you were pale as a ghost would you be upset? All your deflections are missing their mark because you are projecting your own insecurity onto me.