Thread 11906417

Why did RE0 filter so many?

Zero is a brilliant game. The very pinnacle of pre-rendered graphics. The atmosphere is still unmatched. Going from RE3 to Zero is such an upgrade visually.

>>11906417 (OP)
The only resident evil game I enjoyed was the original and 4.

RE0 genuinely filters low IQ gamers, which surprises me because Chris in RE1/Remake require thinking and skill, but I suspect most people don't play him and just play Jill who is easy mode.

>>11906429
You enjoy the easiest ones then (Jill in RE1 and RE4 as a whole)

>>11906429
>>11906434
Also proof of RE4 being the easiest and RE6 being IMO one of the hardest RE games besides 0

>>11906417 (OP)
>Going from RE3 to Zero
Um, you realize there was a Code Veronica in the middle there, right? Dumb retard

I don't think it's that people hate RE0, it's that no one CARES about RE0. Probably because they played REmake and saw how fucking bland it was, and they said no to seconds on that (understandably).

>>11906474
It's because it's on the Gamecube and most people aren't buying multiple RE's on it especially when the idea is that one is a remake, two (or 3 if you played CV on the 'Cast) are ports, and 2 are spinoffs. They were one generation too soon for the consoomers rebuying games over and over. Also 0 being further out the canon deters the 'LORE' fuckers

>>11906496
Well sure, but I'm talking about why people don't care about RE0 -now-

>>11906474
This. People were already tired of old Resi games by that point. I couldn"t even finish RE Remake.

>>11906504
My impression is that there wasn't enough people who played it back then, not the entry into the series for many, not a huge step forward like 4 was, etc. and in this void the narrative 'it's shit' made an impression on all the people who never played it.

>>11906417 (OP)
>The atmosphere is still unmatched.
I agree but the game is still shit, it's very fucking tedious to play and that's coming from someone who beat Sweet Home
>Zero is a brilliant game
Yeah man truly brilliant, 9/10, 10/10 on a good day
>>11906434
>You enjoy the easiest ones then (Jill in RE1
If we are talking the US longbox version then Jill's campaign is still harder than any classic RE game except 0. Also I'd say that 4 is harder than 2. RE2 is just a braindead game for some reason, it really stands out from the rest of the series in terms of difficulty

>>11906549
>If we are talking the US longbox version then Jill's campaign is still harder than any classic RE game except 0.

There is no way RE1 Jill is harder than 3. Don't be pretending now.

>>11906554
No I'm being genuine, at least for me RE1 as Jill is harder than 3 (again, if we are talking the original US release of 1). Replayed the classic games not too long ago and was surprised by how fast that bitch dies in 1, I don't even think that her campaign is THAT much easier than Chris's. But 0 is definitely the hardest game in the series and it's not particularly close, it's also my least favorite one

>>11906568
>I don't even think that her campaign is THAT much easier than Chris's.

Then you are lying to yourself bro. You might have a hard on for Jill but good god carrying those crests as Chris was brutal

>>11906417 (OP)
There's multiple reasons not limited to very poor enemy design, awkward level design (not an issue I had but I've seen it mentioned a lot), the 2 character system, nonsense story, Rebecca's retcons, no item boxes combined with area you can't ever go back to. There's probably more but off the top of my head those are all the big issues.

>>11906439
RE6 isn't actually that hard, it's just incredibly difficult to bring yourself to finish that steaming pile of shit.

>>11906890
I still remember when my friend noped the fuck out when it was time to play Ada's campaign because he just couldn't take it anymore, I had to finish that garbage solo. Whenever people go
>it's actually the BEST over the shoulder RE game!! most fun action gameplay!!
it makes me want to shit on their face. It's a recent thing though

Ever notice how 6th gen RE apologists always post high res screenshots from the PC version to prove how much of an upgrade they were?

>>11906417 (OP)
I can tell from Rebecca's flat ass and narrow hips that this is the remaster

>>11907208
RE5 was the fun stupid action game, I never understood how anyone could enjoy 6. Survivor was a better game than 6, I think only Gaiden is arguably worse.

>>11906417 (OP)
>>11906434
0 was my first RE game. I just left all my items in the lobby, so the item box wasn't really an issue. Pretty sure paths open up back to the lobby anyways, so it's easy to access again. The game is just extremely tedious. One thing that stuck out in my memory is the most remote part of the game was the church and it is one of the few places in the entire game that requires the hookshot that takes up 2 inventory slots.

I thought the vibes were great but just found it to be a slog. Almost dropped the series after I beat it.

>>11906417 (OP)
>Turd Color Palette
>brilliant atmosphere
For as much shit Quake gets for it's aesthetics. REmake and RE0 should get ten times more shit than Quake.

>>11907276
>I never understood how anyone could enjoy 6
No one actually 'enjoys' it, they just say they like it out of contrarianism. And yeah I agree about 5

There was alot of people who were still expecting story development.

>>11906417 (OP)
Agreed, closest game to RE1. I don't understand how many will claim 1 is their fav/the best, yet shit on 0. All the recurring criticism is shallow nitpicking.

>>11906417 (OP)
They were utterly and completely out of ideas by this point. Their big "next gen" Gamecube titles were a remake of a 5 year old game and this lame N64 turd that should have stayed cancelled so people could soiface over it 20 years later as some kind of lost masterpiece that would have saved the series.

>>11907593
Crazy how they could run out of ideas so fast with a premise that could go in a million directions.

to be honest I think it was mainly the choice to make it a weirdly redundant prequel that takes place immediately before re1, a game rebecca is already in. I don't think its reputation as a bad game is as severe as code veronica, if rebecca was in an interesting new status quo there'd be more enthusiasm for it.

>>11906417 (OP)
>Why did RE0 filter so many? Zero is a brilliant game.

No female zombies = bad zombies videogame.

Female zombies = good zombies videogames.

RE0 is bad

>>11908452
Isn't there only like 1 or 2 instances of this girl in RE2? They hardly used her model.

RE0 would have been a better game on N64.

The main issue with RE0 is that the animation work is awful, everything takes a thousand frames, feel delayed, and is not satisfying to play at all. REmake already had that issue but it was tolerable, 0 just doubled down on it. Every new generation had its own "TECHNOLOGY!" moment people were obsessed with and at the start of the 6th gen one of those were animations with too many frames because "look how cool it looks!" and because new programs were made that could create animation frames automatically in between the ones created by the modeler.

Meanwhile RE0 on N64 is literally RE2. It has RE2 character and enemy models (reskinned), RE2 animations, and most likely used the same engine as RE2 N64. Gameplay would have been as tight as in RE2.

N64 version was also more colourful and more akin to what RE1 was in style. Everything else points at the game being identical otherwise (setting, progression, mechanics, story)

>>11907208
Same, did the first maybe two campaigns together then had to do the rest myself

>>11907264
Here is webm from the GC version

>>11906417 (OP)
>only has good things to say about the visuals

lmao

every RE I play I always try to pick to pick the harder difficulty, but when I played RE0 for the first time I was effectively hard stuck on the bat boss cause I didn't have enough ammo to feasibly fight the thing. I had to restart the whole game on normal difficulty to actually beat it.

>>11908678
On my first ever playthrough of the game on hard, I "abused my saves" (I would make one big save, play as long as I could to recon the game and then reload that save and play better)

>>11908678
>>11908692
PS I think 0 is really under rated based on it's reputation and 7 was overrated dog shit with how many youtube essays saying it saved the franchise.

>>11908694
>>11908692
>>11908662
>>11907276
>>11907208
>>11906890
>>>/v/

>>11906417 (OP)
It's a terrible videogame, glad to clear it up for you.

>>11908692
It's a legit and even fun strategy. I did this in Lightning Returns because there is an overarching time limit for the whole game and I wanted to 100% it. I finished everything by the 8th day out of the full 13 days of the game.

>>11908695
Nah nigga stay mad.

>>11906504
People generally don't have nostalgia for things they didn't play in the past, and its structure between the two characters is extremely unappealing for most since we have better versions of character swap systems. The only thing it really has going for it from a first impression position is if you like Rebecca and feel she doesn't get enough presence in the series.

>>11906417 (OP)
The whole era between 3 and 4 was when RE went from "cool games to show your buds" to "embarrassing shit you wouldn't be caught dead playing."

>>11907264
Rebecca's butt got nerfed in the remake.

>>11910008
>and its structure between the two characters is extremely unappealing for most since we have better versions of character swap systems

See: >>11908692

Extremely unappealing to whomst? People who are bad at games? I liked 0 because I was constantly busy shuffling items and menuing and also mentally keeping a registry of where I left items. When item boxes are shared and your inventory is large (like Jill's or some of the later RE games timeline wise) you kinda turn your brain off.

The one thing it's lacking is coop.

>>11910115
Its great you liked it, anon, but for the uninitiated it looks like shit. Even having played it, it felt like a step back from stuff like A/B scenarios. I'm not even saying anything about how well it did or didn't work, just that a lot of people saw they had to manage two characters in real time and just said nah.

>>11906886
Item Management is my grievance with all classic RE games. A certain degree of scarcity is necessary for proper survival horror, but limiting my ability to carry quest items is just tedious. I do not like having to backtrack and mix and match my inventory just because I can't carry 10 pounds of random crap

>>11910119
Well the RE games never went back to 2's zapping system for whatever reason, and the one thing I wanted from Demake 2 was to expand on it and not gut it entirely.

And if we're basing things on the average normie retard audience who gets easily filtered by games unless they're easy then the way 0 handles characters has nothing to do with the games quality at all otherwise they wouldn't like Demake 2

The thing fanboys don't want to admit is that these were the movie games of their day. The "gameplay" is an absolute joke compared to any real genre short of RPGs. The only things anyone played them for were cool characters, cool monsters, interesting environments, and a passable scenario to hang all that on.
0 is lame as fuck in every single one of those categories.

>>11910187
I was answering why people still don't give RE0 more of a shot. If they don't even try it they can't really know if they'll like it or not, and its not considered important enough for people to really care, its basically in a similar boat to stuff like Gaiden that changed the formula a bit too much.

>>11910192
please never post here again. you will never add anything of value except retarded flamebait.

>>11910206
>Comparing it to Gaiden

Gaiden is on too low quality of hardware for it to be taken seriously. 0 is the follow up to Remake and plays exactly like it except for a few changes that filtered Jill players.

>>11910345
Then I'm sure the reason nobody gives it a chance must because they're just dum dum heads

>>11910349
I think people too easily throw around the B word, especially over SURVIVAL horror games that shouldn't hand you the win, but far too many people who themselves are bad will then cast aspersions on the game as if projecting their own insecurities. "I'm not bad, the game is bad!"

>>11908537

Sadly there are only like a 4 of them in resident evil 2. BUT still that is better than resident evil 1(no female zombies) and resident evil zero(again, no female zombies).

>>11911092
Imagine a cute zombie girl in a dirty lab coat and pencil skirt