Thread 11913064

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>11902420

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

>doom
more like dumb lmao

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/qns3f9.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RC3: https://files.catbox.moe/aoucg0.7z

=== NEWS ===
[8-01] Ashes 2063: Death Zone confirmed
https://youtu.be/BpJ7AVXQ9gE

[8-01] DBP75: Patagonian Pilgrimage is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4082

[7-27] Doom 2 in Rural Only released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154452

[7-27] PillowBlaster cometh...
https://youtu.be/PNsNWQ1lsis

[7-27] EDGE-Classic v1.50 update
https://github.com/edge-classic/EDGE-classic/releases/latest

[7-21] Fallout: Bakersfield TC, nearing completion
https://youtu.be/6e8WrmOibpM

[7-19] Quake 2 N64 Jam II released
https://moddb.com/mods/n64-jam-ii

[7-17] Cutmanmike releases campfire minimod
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=80685

[7-17] Cyber Nights released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/150894

[7-16] Sunless Empire released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154269

[7-12] Dead Sea Scrolls released
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4054

[7-08] Source code to Hexen Hack Editor
https://github.com/snemarch/HexenHackEditor/

[7-08] Colourful Hell updated to v1.04
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1261371

[7-06] Quake Injector v7 RC1 update
https://discuss.quaddicted.com/t/8079

[7-03] DBP74: Phantom Processing is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4043

[6-30] '95 Never Dies (finally) released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154000

[6-27] So You Want to Start a Community Project: a guide
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153916

[6-25] Skulltiverse II, MBF21 project is open for submissions
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153925

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <

Record an UV Max demo of Nova IV MAP16 "Techbase Shenanigans" (-cl 21)

> Wad download
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/152816-rc2-nova-iv-33-map-mbf21-megawad-by-newer-mappers/
> Example demo
Slow playthrough in 11:16 (RC2 wad) https://files.catbox.moe/lxcwbh.lmp

This is a pretty cool techbase with vents that allow you to quickly reach any part of the map. It's also teeming with explosives. You don't have much firepower at the start to deal with the cybie so try to make him useful.

> Previous challenge winner
HFFM MAP16 UV Max in 3:40 >>11903259

>>11913078
>GET OFF MY PLANE

>Ashes 2063

I think it doesn't make sense for the character to run as fast as doom guy. Makes the bike feel a lot less useful. The bike should be doomguy fast, and you should sprint as fast as doomguy walks.

>>11913064 (OP)
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/L2_V7MNO9l8

>>11913078
We don't like your kind here...

>>11913128
When I was picking a map of my challenge I considered DBP69 MAP13 which I like because of this track. I didn't know this was from duke, maybe I should play it sometime...

When I was picking a map for my challenge. I played through DBP69 map13 which I remember because of this track. Didn't know this was from duke, maybe I should play it sometime...

>>11913078
>I'll chib ya m8

>>11913128
When I was picking a map for my challenge, I considered DBP69 map13 which I remember because of this track. Didn't know this was from duke, maybe I should play it sometime...

I came across another dump of old wads, seems to be mostly for Zandronum but there's a few interesting things in there.

https://files.valhallagameplays.info/wads/

>>11913164
Duke 3D is an eternal classic. A must play. It sags in the middle, but play it all anyway.

>>11913128
Alternatively, there's this

>>11913164
Doomerboard projects are so pretty, not sure how the gameplay is generally, but I did play auger zenith and that was pretty fun.

>>11913128

This track is easily one of the best in the game. Heard it in a few Doom maps too.

Going to play Kingpin, which mod is better, Rags 2 Riches or MH’s Kingpin patch?

>>11913164
Duke 3D is fantastic, it's one of the few games that I love almost as much as Doom, strongly recommended.

>>11913416
There's so much good music in Douk 3D, Bobby and Lee were doing amazing work there. Also a great counter example to people who say Bobby 'only knows how to rip off metal.'

Zoomer here. Never played Quake, CS, etc Don't know shit about bunny hopping, air strafing, etc What is "the" guide to learn about quake movement fundamentals.

>>11913792
>Never played Quake, CS
A guide will make no sense if you haven't played the game at all. Get a good handle on the basics before going for fancy techniques.

>>11913792
Quake 3? Ask people on defrag servers they'll be glad to teach you

>>11913792
>guide to learn about quake movement fundamentals
You press W to move forward. S for backward. Use mouse to move your camera. Press Space to jump.
Now I understand why every single modern game has retarded tutorial that learns you how to breath.

>>11913792
Don't worry too much about the fancy pants movement stuff, maybe with the exception of rocket jumping, which is just:
>Get rocket launcher
>Aim at floor
>Jump
>Shoot as you jump
>Rocket jump

Don't do it if you're low on HP though. Go play Quake and blow shit up.

>>11913795
This. Also you don't need bunnyhopping just to play singleplayer.

>>11913795
>>11913804
To be fair, I did finish episode 1 of Quake on Nightmare before making this post.

>>11913848
Alright, then you should know the basics.

I'M POSTING THIS EARLIER THAN NORMAL BUT IT'S STILL SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit! Or maybe in a few hours from now when more people are awake!

>>11913848
Nightmare arguably makes the game easier than hard.

>>11913442
Someone pls.. I also want to play Kingpin again

>>11913869
Elaborate?

>>11913880
Nightmare in Quake changes monster behavior to make ranged monsters effectively act like turrets on sight, as soon as they see you, they immediately lay down fire and keep doing so until you die or hide.

That can make some encounters meaner, but also add an exploitable element of predictability which did not exist before.

>>11890746
I'm so glad map19 is over. Good candidate for my most hated doom map. Who knew 4 arachnotrons could give me a hard time

>>11913064 (OP)
>>11913070
Reminder that this >>1906493 still applies.
It will likely be a nightmare (fitting) given we don't have everything worked out yet
IDEALLY; somebody will provide Vry Spooky v3 or v4 as that has a bunch of the maps in it that are, logically, not in the earlier releases.
This way we will not be forced to start from scratch and can modify the guidelines from there.

>>11913960
Can't find the post you're linking to. Is this about 2048v2?

>>11913963
This was about /vr/y spooky which was a project that was abandoned in 2017 due to mapper fatigue and lack of submission some people will try to tell you that a certain xenofaggot was responsible, but that's false, he's not going to stop people from submitting maps unless they're too prideful/egotistical

>>11913164
It's funny - I first heard a bunch of Duke tracks in this Zelda Classic game Lost Isle.When I played Duke Nukem finally a few years later I realized a large number of the tracks in Lost Isle were lifted straight from Duke. Good picks too cause I never would have guessed they were from Duke since I had heard the main theme and didn't realize there was that many dark atmospheric pieces in Duke. Really helped set the tone for most of the game.

>>11913967
wat
we already have fag mortem

>>11913859
Haven't started anything new, still fiddling with the mid texture space shipping

>>11913071
a bit faster example demo in 8:17 https://files.catbox.moe/5n4gvk.lmp

>>11913064 (OP)
Man, Heretic is nowhere near as good as Doom

>>11914046
When people say Fag Mortem, it makes me wish for an Ad Mortem and Huffem crossover.

>>11914168
Heretic has way too many enemies but I think I hate Heretic/Hexen's inventory system or mods that try to use something like it. Best I like with it is stuff like Ashes where it's barely in the game at best and mostly just there for medkits or ways to explore poisonous areas. The more items I'm forced to swap between and the more I'm expected to actually use the items in battles the more I dislike the inventory system.

>>11914025
DN3D has heaps of good atmospheric tracks, XPlasma is just incredible.

>>11913891
I remember playing Quake 1/2 so much back in the day that it was really easy.
Playing them now, I feel like a retard.

he's gonna get ya

he's gonna get ya

Someone with either doomworld or github account, please ask the woof dev to add a "subtle" secret notification option which only plays sound with no accompanying text message, before they roll out 16.0.0

>>11914536
you can ask him on chocolate doom discord

>>11914543
Or discord then, I'm bad with emails and phone numbers

>>11914551
He doesn't want to.

Honestly I don't see much use of it either but if you really want it and can manage to compile yourself i'd change for example
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/blob/15c5049e362ecdbd16d0d302a572f8b3ce62482b/src/st_widgets.c#L164
to
> else if (player->secretmessage && show_messages)
so secret revealed messages does not appear if you press F8

>>11914613
Thanks. I tried the different way but got "too many arguments" error, maybe I'll experiment some more.

why does one wall match the scale of the floor but the other doesn't? i can't shrink the scale any further either

Do you guys have community projects very often for doom? I'm working on a map right now.

Gutted the secret count option and rewrote p_spec.h script, seems to work fine. Common messages are still somewhat useful and not in your face, wouldn't want to miss them. Hopefully I'll also manage to bring back the scrolling health numbers, they're neat.

>>11914750
Occasionally.

>>11914771
You should push this as a commit option for Nugget Doom.

>>11914783
I'm not a programmer, so my solution was more of a hack. Nugget dev would be able to write it fast and elegantly if he responds to the idea.

>>11914771
Can you make it so the numpad can be used for idclev?

Caleb shitting down both of Cerberus' necks

>>11914883
Doomguy boiling in a pot of shit.

>>11913064 (OP)
How do you summon unlocked familiars in DRLAX?

>>11914898
Inventory item that you get in the run when you unlock them or from the weird green ball device that sometimes shows up that won't do shit until you've killed a significant chunk of the monsters on the map.

>>11914895
>shitguy boiling in a pot of doom

>>11914879
With strong enough determination, I probably could. But it may take months by gracious estimation before I'd even begin to form the idea on how to proceed. It's a video game from 1993, yet these 200+ files with thousands lines of code feel like black magic to me. I'm blind here.

>>11914879
Holding some arbitrary button then pressing numbers could also be cool. Personally, I think it's about time when woof/nugget devs brought the level table from dsda doom.

What's the practical use case for numpads anyway? I bound automap controls to it and even then I think it's a waste. With Heretic and Hexen I prefer using letters for inventory items.

Can anyone remember? I'm playing (or testing I guess) Quake on Dosbox and while it's generally fine collisions and physics seem to be somewhat strange. Orger's grenades can get stuck between floors (and the clunk -sound it emits begins to repeat x100 until the grenade explodes). There's also places even on the first map of Episode 1 in which I'm getting stuck. One is the final ramp before the map exit.
I played this game so much when I was a teenager and I really don't ever remember seeing anything like this. Not with the original dos version or not the winquake.
Obviously Quakespasm etc don't exhibit this behavior either.
Any ideas? Dosbox (-staging v0.81.1) accuracy comes to my mind.

>>11915181
*ogre
My fingers were cut off in an accident, was cutting metal plates in a factory and now I need finger prosthetics to type

>>11913948
I really didn't like most of the fights in that map, though the final fight with the archviles was thankfully easy compared to the bullshit conveyor stuff that preceded it.

>>11915062
>Personally, I think it's about time when woof/nugget devs brought the level table from dsda doom.
Cherry did that.

>>11915224
Nugget's name could be the sole big reason I don't want to use it, Cherry is both nice and has the best icon out of three. Maybe question of presentation is why the dev decided to branch out into yet another fork instead of contributing to existing.

>>11915183
Thanks for the music Tony

>>11915224
Nugget's name could be the sole big reason I don't want to use it, Cherry is both nice and has the best icon out of three. Maybe the question of presentation is why Cherry dev decided to branch out into yet another fork instead of contributing to the already existing one.

>>11915183
That's at least pretty metal. Have you considered playing guitar?

it's like Hell Revealed but good

>>11915250
Who knows.
Cherry is behind, anyway. It hasn't gotten any sort of work in months.

>>11915307
Disregard this, it just got an update today.

>>11913064 (OP)
well boys i finally have a skillsaw megawad under my belt(valiant)
was fantastic especially the first half of the final episode(the final countdown in particular

>>11915320
>the final countdown in particular
So good he put in two different wads.

>>11913071
Max in 4:41
https://files.catbox.moe/wkbjze.lmp

Good map, kinda reminds me of Going Down. If you want a fast time you pretty much have to get the cyberdemon in the crusher near the start, I got lucky in that regard.

>>11915181
I know this isn't really what you asked for, but have you tried the chocolate-quake spaceport that was recently released?

>>11915306
Also known as Cow Tools

>>11915306
BLUE BOARD

>>11913064 (OP)
i know this is a go make your own fuckin maps kinda scenario. but its crazy how piss poor dukes mod scene is. compared to doom or even blood. blood has more map sets and multi episode packs. than duke does and the ones for blood are easily findable. duke its like nobodies ever heard of any maps or episodes fan made and just send you to duke world with single maps from the 90s .lmao

>>11915358
>doom
Simply can't compete with how easy it is to map for. Yeah, people are gonna argue about how it isn't that bad to map for build nowadays and such but...
>blood
If you're gonna map for build, might as well do it for the best of the bunch. Duke isn't all that interesting and unique. Ideas that would fit Duke can just as easily fit Doom and his monster rooster aren't as interesting as Blood's so there's little reason to map for it.

>>11915372
i like dukes gameplay alot and his monster roster. its just there should be AT LEAST ONE. i know theres that duke armegeddon mod but that changes the gameplay and theres that one that was "based" on the 2001 duke forever trailer but other than that no expansive map pack or anything. i like all five episodes of duke 3d, duke it out in dc is really good.

i didnt like duke , shit even some of the duke zone maps are good as fuck. i just wish there was more

>>11915358
It's at least got more of an active modding scene than Shadow Warrior or Redneck Rampage, and one of those mods includes the AMC Squad. Still agree completely about Blood getting the most attention over the years.

>>11915358
>duke its like nobodies ever heard of any maps or episodes fan made and just send you to duke world with single maps from the 90s
git gud
https://www.duke4.net/eduke32-add-on-compilation/

>>11915358
Really? After Doom/Doom 2 and Quake 1, Duke Nukem 3D has a quite a big mapping/modding scene. Nowhere near Doom, of course.

>>11915423
the download links to the Mega NZ sites are no longer up. i did find it on mod db and its an EXE file but i will down load these files individually and put them in red nukem which doesnt call home to any sites which Eduke32 does

>>11915338
cow pee

>>11915435
nta but this is what it should look like.

>>11915423
Some anon told me about that a while ago but I haven't found any levels I like so far. I did find this 90's kino, though
>Hey! Hey! Hey! What's goin' on Rudy?
>Man, Fat Abbot, you need to lose weight!
>I lose weight when I feel like it, bitch! Shut your bitch-ass mouth, ho!
>Bitch, I'll kick yo' ass!
>You think you slick, you punk ass blasphemous dope fiend bitch! I had my jimmy whacked 7 times last week! I'll bust a cap in your mother fuckin' ass!

>>11915306
What even is the appeal of hell revealed 1 and especially 2

>>11915510
.mirrorS arE morE fuN thaN televisioN

>>11915462
does it download from a exe?

>>11915556
i don't remember but i think so

>>11915556
No, it's one of those executable 7zips.

>>11915330
>chocolate-quake spaceport
Yeah well, the pixels are all fucked up when compared to native CRT resolutions - most common resolution with Q1 was 640x480 and then 1024x768. Chocolate quake is all blocky and shit, plus the gamma is weird too. CRT plus 1024x768 resolution and there were no jagged lines anywhere.
I had Pentium 166hz and if I remember correctly 1024x768 was still around 20+ or around 25 frames. 640x480 was easily 30 at least. Some guy who had 486 needed to play Quake in 320x200 resolution.
However when it comes down to getting stuck like in Dosbox version, I didn't see anything. It happens around in this place here.
Oh boy I sound like an elitist but I'll take Quakespasm every day over this one.

>>11915645
Sure, dev doesn't implement integer scaling for uneven fullscreen resolution, maybe the pixels would be perfect if I had an exact resolution of 1024x768 but I don't think I want to do that on my screen at least. Closest 4:3 for me is 1440x1080.

>>11915181
>while it's generally fine collisions and physics seem to be somewhat strange. Orger's grenades can get stuck between floors (and the clunk -sound it emits begins to repeat x100 until the grenade explodes)
this happens in quake
>There's also places even on the first map of Episode 1 in which I'm getting stuck. One is the final ramp before the map exit.
post pic
>Any ideas?
you misremembered the video game. i didn't know that doom crushers delete items dropped by monsters, but that is vanilla behavior, like that grenade bug you mentioned

>>11915743
https://i.4cdn.org/vr/1754189374962109.png

I wanna make quake maps.
>Trenchboom
>Jack
>Hammer
Which one?

>>11915776
Trenchbroom, while lacking a few features of the other two, is by far the most intuitive and easy to learn for someone new to Quake mapping.

>you will stand and fight
>cinematics + qtes
>giant robot battles
>parry

>[8-01] DBP75: Patagonian Pilgrimage is out now!
Nice!
>5 maps are by joe-ilya
Not like this bros...

>>11915936
Okay but slapping projectiles out of the air is always cool regardless of any game. It just has to be done right.

Most games do not do it right.

>>11915965
Muahahahaha

Why Quake maps look so charming even today meanwhile goldsrc maps looks like trash? Even the original half life looks worse.

>>11916023
Quake is abstract and surreal while Half-Life was pushing for more realism with its environments. Many such cases with older games. It's why World of Warcraft's visuals have aged better than other MMOs that were technically superior at the time.

if you DONT like dbp slop you DONT belong here

>>11915990
Joe, I urge you to listen to what I'm saying and to read this post in full.
That's not a fucking good reaction from people and you adopting an attitude of spite isn't going to help neither them or yourself.

A better approach is to instead make fewer contributed levels, BUT, then put a lot more time and effort into the ones you do, try to hone the gameplay and looks as much as you can.
Not to say to make them big and long either, it can still be something 2048 sized or something, but try putting as much thought into the fights, exploration, and aesthetics as you can.

You can never please everyone, but if people regularly react with exhausted sighs at you having submitted five levels to a project, maybe there's something you can learn from those reactions.
Sometimes criticism can sting, and sometimes people don't bother with critique and just call work shit in some unspecified manner, but if someone actually specifically articulates why they think something doesn't work, even if it comes with some verbal abuse, consider if their analysis is worth listening to and if their advice is good or if you need to change something.

>>11916121
I've never tried any, but I've been here since the board opened.

>>11916121
I don't like slaughter maps.

>>11916156
You should at least consider giving Auger;Zenith a go, it's the best of the bunch by far.

My enjoyment of Alien Armageddon went up after I replaced MIDI soundtrack files with OGG ones. I also added some tracks from the PS1 version of Duke 3D to the attrition maps, sounds way better than those custom MIDIs.

>>11916141
I've got positive feedback in the DBP's development thread, by people who played each of my maps.
I've got positive feedback on screenshots I posted anonymously here.
Once my name is attached, it's suddenly considered bad by /vr/.

I think there's simply a bitterness going on around here about me, because of the map I tried to replace in /vertex relocation/, which is fair, I was being an asshole, and nobody wants to play maps by an asshole.

>>11915324
some more things to add
:it's the first wad that made the chain gun useful to me(I always found the rate of fire way too slow for a chain gun)kinda wish all guns/demons got a super variant but I'm nitpicking
:I was surprisingly frustrated with map 31 to the point I quit with the intention of restarting it later
: honestly after rocket zone 2 it lost just a little steam to me(light bridge too far was a cool set piece and red shift was meh) and the final boss executed well was just a little underwhelming(just bfg spammed it)
:intend to do alien Vendetta next(with the midi pack of course)

>>11916262
vanilla chaingun is good for up to cacos mostly thanks to hitstun, and is really good for hordes of hitscans when you dont have or want to use a rocket
thats about it
i still find it less underwhelming than vanilla plasma rifle though, if you have bfg you always just keep the cells for that instead

>>11916284
You can't always count on the BFG being available, and the Plasma Rifle still hauls a lot of ass considering all the ammo you can carry and the sheer rate of fire.

>>11916067
>Quake is abstract and surreal while Half-Life was pushing for more realism with its environments.
>It's why World of Warcraft's visuals have aged better than other MMOs that were technically superior at the time.
These two things don’t seem to connect.

>>11916254
>I think there's simply a bitterness going on around here about me, because of the map I tried to replace in /vertex relocation/
That's a lie and you know it, jew. You've been a lolcow for at least five years

>>11913064 (OP)
If that Halloween project will be brought back shouldn't someone bring back the guidelines too?
Also does anyone remember an edit of Peter Steele with his dick out edited to make him look like Caleb holding a dynamite?

>>11916121
I only played 1 and 2 so far, both are really good.

>>11913070
[08/03] I released another MBF21 weapon mod. I think it's my best yet. Have fun, anons.

>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/154541-mbf21-urban-warfare-a-modern-weapon-set/
>https://matt-eldrydge.itch.io/urban-warfare-a-modern-weapon-set

Plays pretty good with Doom in City Only, given the flamethrower just destroys slaughter scenarios. I'll tweak its ammo balance a little more soon, it's definitely a little bit too good.

Has anyone made any maps for the 2048 project?

>>11916121
What is doomguy doing to that caco?

>>11916537
Scratching an itch.
What is it to do? Bump against rocks and trees? It needs a hand.

>>11916383
You're the lolcow, anon. Why do you think I make so many maps? It's hilarious to see so many anons seethe in unison, as I make more and more maps per DBP.

>>11916575
What a nice guy doomguy is.

only tangentially related to quake but i just discovered lovecraft's works are all in the public domain so you can read and listen to the call of cthulu for free
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Weird_Tales/Volume_11/Issue_2/The_Call_of_Cthulhu

>>11916643
A lot of niggerman's work have been public domain for a long time. You can find pretty much everything of his on the Gutenberg.
>https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=lovecraft

>>11916475
Nice.

>>11916254
Which map do you consider your best? For me it's map11 in DBP73

Also is it just me or 4chan is pretty laggy today?

>>11914694
When you drag around vertexes the wall repeat can get screwed up, "/" will reset the scale or you can copy and paste the former wall with tab + enter. You can also toggle the floor repeat with "e". How's mapster treating you so far?

>>11916584
Bronies don't get to have an opinion and are automatically lolcows. Fuck off to your baby cartoons.

>>11916383
I'm not the least bit surprised that it's a repeating pattern of behavior.

Decade has passed since License to Ilya project been done. Maybe we gents should do another quality check for his more recent maps.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/joetune

>>11916840
A joe-themed community project?

>>11916840
Take his worst and turn them into something digestible. Clearly his old license has long expired, some people in professional field take reevaluation tests annualy.

>>11916846
Take his worst and turn them into something digestible. Clearly his old license has long expired, some people in professional field take reevaluation tests annualy.

>>11916871
This reminds me of the godawful maps that Cyberdemon531/Andrea Rovenski recently been shitting out. Their Nova IV map is also complete dogshit too

>>11916840
>>11916846
>>11916874
that's stupid. make your own maps. stop giving attn to retards

>>11916846
>>11916840
The "your map is shit, mine is better" project where you do replacement maps for his maps in stuff like Auger;Zenith.

>>11916846
BRONY /R/EE/V/ALUATION

>>11916812
Huh (HUH), I don't think I've actually played a Quake wad for Doom or even seen one with those cocksuckers. Name?

>>11916936
Shivering Spasm

they'd better show that quake tabletop game on con

>>11916768
it's not working. these are perfectly aligned and the other wall isn't and i don't know why.

>>11916768
>How's mapster treating you so far?
I immensely dislike the disorganized mess that is the tiles list. It's the greatest obstacle for me. I can learn how to make breakable glass or doors, but having to sift through thousands of tiles looking for carpet saps the joy out of creating. If I could manually organize them into textures/flats/decorative sprites/etc then life would be a lot easier. I'm starting to understand why Carmack said Doom has proven to be the best modding platform

>>11916874
>Clearly his old license has long expired, some people in professional field take reevaluation tests annualy.

>>11916509
There IS no 2048 project. It hasn't been in the news for weeks. The "lead" stopped communicating several hours after being regretfully informed that managing a project takes more effort than vaguely directing people towards existing textures and telling them to do the rest of the work. No one else accepted the burden, presumably because no one wants to pick up the slack for something so poorly conceived to begin with.

I seriously think anyone who has interest in /vr/ projects for the time being is best just learning mapster32 and making something for the Duke3D project. We're plauged by "ideas guys" who start projects without any realistic ability to finish them, but Duke It Out In /vr/ anon seems relatively mature/commited/sane.

I was working on a house exterior before I got distracted by that scaling issue. I'll get back to work and ignore that problem until it goes away

>>11916509
The interest was there, but as said, the guy who stepped up to lead quickly vanished without a word.

I really think that interest is still here, a lot of people spoke up and it was an active discussion, but obviously there needs to be someone to take the reigns, and people were just left to hold their blueballs.

I'll be back home in a couple days, maybe I could look at trying to resolve the whole part about combining the texture sets properly so that animated textures and switches don't conflict.

That may take a few days for me to work out, and I'm not promising anything, especially NOT to lead the project as a whole, I don't have that kind of time and energy, but maybe I can help things along the way a bit, at least.

>>11916121
dbp slop is uncharitable its more like a scale from slop to kino depending on the project

>>11917148
Haha Kinaman! Silokey

>>11917148
What the name of this guy? I saw one of his videos but I can't remember the name

>>11916670
thought that cannon on his shoulder looked like a xenomorph's head

>>11916737
I think my best one is MAP10 in DBP75, it's the kind of map I wish I would've made for DBP37 (The cyberpunk one), plus I made it in only 6 days, as did I with the rest of my DBP75 maps, so it's an extra bit of pride for me on that one.

>>11916769
The brony fandom was created on 4chan, why are you so upset I'm on the very website that created them? You're the one who should fuck off.

>>11916840
I can host it if you'd like. Since my first project I've learned to compile and merge texture sets, so you guys can pick whatever DBP map I've made.
It would have to be a Boom compatible project to support all these different themes with different skies.

>>11917389
>The brony fandom was created on 4chan
As a joke, it's also supposed to be isolated to that stupid fucking containment board.

>>11917256
I can't recall either, but if you search for "Dendy Chronicles" on youtube, you'll find him.
Genuinely interesting shit, it's fun listening to someone talk about their childhood and how vidya was handled over there.

>>11917397
I don't care.

>>11917245
>I'm not promising anything, especially NOT to lead the project as a whole
Therein lies the problem. Pic related took me a little over an hour, but I'm not gonna bother releasing them because there's no purpose without a lead. And after looking at these texture packs for a while, I don't think NMNTex or DBP44Tex even look good.

>>11917256
His youtube channel is called Kinamania. For me it was just a reaction image, but I guess it's pretty /vr/ relevant.

>>11913379
absolute disco

>>11917098
It's gotta be texture pegging then, hit "o" to toggle that. Yeah, the tiles are a bit of a mess. There's an option in mapster to sort tiles with "t" in the selection menu, tiles.cfg can be edited as well to add more categories and textures. Not a whole lot by default unfortunately but it is a option. Looking forward to seeing what you make, any particular theme in mind?

>>11917478
I liked a lot of what people did with NMN in HFFM. There's maybe some roughness to a bit of it, but it overall has a pretty solid aesthetic.
I was however unconvinced of the DBP texture pack.

Its Sunday night shitshow time! in haste

search for "macgu.fun" in doomseeker

>>11917389
>I think my best one is MAP10 in DBP75
good level I like the idea of parkouring accross buildings though i was confused where to go several times

>>11917148
>>11917245
Do we even need a lead in the first place? We can just settle for a vanilla limit-removing gameplay and just do some maps around it. Maybe boom-compatable even, if we are feeling brave enough. Then simply pack all the maps we've done in one wad and call it a day.

>>11915257
android mapping projects
imagine rockets runs
horse bro
dog port
/vr/ secret internet
gzdoom sucks

>>11915257
community done fucked
third past titty
whatever model kid wear
programming happy sounds
ass ashes

>>11917687
>/vr/ secret internet
Shhh. Don't tell anyone.

>>11917672
>we
>We
>we
>we've

A successful implementation of what you're suggesting isn't "no lead", it's multiple leads, but as long as those remain vague "we"-s instead of concrete "I"-s nothing will get done. Who exactly is going to compile the maps and other resources? Who is going to post it to Doomworld, idgames etc? Who will playtest the maps no one else wants to and ensure cross-port compatibility?

>vanilla limit-removing gameplay
This is a completely meaningless term, which also demonstrates a critical misunderstanding of how the engine works. For most purposes, Boom/cl9 mapping is easier than limit-removing/cl2 mapping, and neither say much about gameplay.

>>11917672
>Do we even need a lead in the first place?
There's a reason Project Managers are well-paid.

>>11917672
In theory no, in practice you absolutely fucking need somebody doing all the organizational cat herding, collating all of the stuff together into something that fucking works and so on.
>>11917735
Still blows my mind that I get paid for periodically reminding people what their job is.

>>11917573
i don't think this mapset was the best choice

>>11917810
mac had to console kill them all because their floor is lava attack instakilled everyone respawning

>>11917812
also we had to voteskip multiple maps because of MP softlocks (doors that lock behind you with no way for other players to get in, so if you die the door is locked for good)

>>11917573
the randomizer is a comedian
ggs

>>11917573
>>11917880
ah the suffering is over, GGs! and thanks for everybody joining

>>11917780
heh definetly painful combo with the gameplay wad

>>11917573
>>11917887
GGs

>>11917672
I mean, if you like it to linger without progress, sure.

>>11917775
Now consider that that's a paid environment where the threat of being fired for not doing shit is real. A volunteer community project doesn't have that, and an anonymous one doesn't even have reputational damage to consider. A project leader here essentially has no levers other than calling people niggers.

These turned out way funnier than I thought they would.

>>11918258
10/10 filename

>>11918258
Heh nice

I don't even like the boomer shooters but your threads always have great OP pics that I stop by and scroll sometimes.

>>11918258
Does he have any games on that thing?

>>11918543
He has Doom, because Doom runs on everything.

>>11918483
Give them a try.

>>11918572
Already played
>Doom on gba
>Duke Nukem 3d on ps1
>Quake 2 on ps1 and pc
>half life 1/2/Black mesa
>UT, UT3
I appreciate them for what they are but they aren't my preference.

>>11918610
GBA is a pretty fucking rough experience, consider Doom 2 on PC, or at the very least one of the modern console ports, you're missing far better controls, graphics (gore), gameplay, etc.

Douglas N. Ukem

>>11918507
I'm still at my bullshit, Anon. I'd like to see if I can get all of the subweapons in working order before this week is out, though I'll still need to gather sounds.
I'm still not 100% certain what to do for the Bees here, I can't think any Genesis games with Bee sounds, so I may need to get clever and grab like, chainsaw/motor/airplane sounds.
Also the big Bee here teleports to you after a bit if it's not in combat in the hopes of finding more shit to sting.

>>11918543
Yes. Also canonically all of the schematics for these things are stored in Sega Genesis-shaped cartridges. I wanted to make the subweapon pickups cartridges but I realized that would suck a little as all of the silhouettes would be the same.

>>11917245
>left to hold their blueballs
>balls
>blue balls
Hmmmmmmmm…
Anon you just gave me an idea for a 2048 map sequel, I’ll be back, just gotta remember this post

>>11918483
So what? I've never even played any fps other than goldeneye and black ops but I make several posts in every thread.

>we have people who don't play boomer shooters posting on the boomer shooter thread
I don't know how to feel about this.

>>11918752
The real kicker is that people tend to generally agree with my opinions too despite me just making shit up.

>>11918748
You also oughta try some of these.

>>11918796
No thanks, I'm really not interested at all. So you guys bounce around looking for keys and then some weird alien monster pops out and shoots fireballs at you while going "rawrrr" so you bounce around in a circle going pew pew til the "rawrrr" turns into a "blarghhh"

The whole idea is silly.

>>11918818
>bounce around looking for keys and then some weird alien monster pops out and shoots fireballs at you while going "rawrrr" so you bounce around in a circle going pew pew til the "rawrrr" turns into a "blarghhh"
Stop, you're making me want to play DOOM and it's still monday morning.

>>11918752
>people who don't play (game) posting in the (game) thread anyways
Many (billions, infinite) of such cases.

Quakecon is starting this week and the multiplayer servers typically see a small temporary population boost during this time frame. Anyone playing Quake or Doom online lately? Either the originals or the Nightdive remasters?

>>11917425
Dendy is a bit more than that for me, it's nostalgia since I had one as a child. And it wasn't very common, though one kid had an actual non bootleg sega console

>>11914694
>>11917098
>>11917123
>>11917161
Texture is not aligned because build engine is pure numbers game bullshit, making more wall splits or drawing on bigger grid helps fix it, usually always draw by power of 2, this is also will help with aligning floor tiles since those can't be stretched. 128, 256, 512, 1024 etc.

Tile group is just as devs were adding them back then, you can't change it to your needs, you can however make your own tile group sort tables. For floor tiles, walls, doors, decorations etc. If you were to remake that art file to your needs you would have to ship your map with your own artfile, because textures in map format are assigned not by texture itself, but by it's tilenumber. Then there are some hardcoded tilenums that have code to them, that's why when opening Ion Fury in editor and picking textures first few pages of tileset are just empty, because there's still some Duke code in them

>>11919031
Pretty much everything numbers should be power of 2 or close to it. That be map units, gpspeed values, other numbers for scripts (how much does a sector rotate for example) because the engine shits itself when numbers are wrong, that be unalignable texture like you have, broken up/down sector that stops halfway through etc. Funny shit, but hey, still much more options than in doom.

mapster32 question. Is it possible to lower the volume of sound effects/sprites or reduce their radius effect so that you can't hear them from multiple rooms away? Maybe make it so those sounds stick to their sector?

>>11919086
Depends on wich sounds. If it's a door sector it will be loud as fuck and I hate it too. Some sprites, like steam also can't be changed. If it's ambient sound you placed using msfx sprite you can change a radius of it with a hitag, note that it's spherical so goes away if you go too deep/high away from it too. So to summarize, only ambient sound you place yourself can be changed

TIL about SECRETS lump that allows you to type "secret" command in gzdoom and it will print out the directions for secrets. How about we implement this in vertex relocation?
I've already written secret directions some time ago https://rentry.co/vertexrelocationsecrets

>>11919105
It's the toilet sprite when you break them so I assume there's nothing I can do. I didn't expect the water leaking sound to cover such a large area.

>>11919165
Yeah it sucks unfortunately. Even more so when there's some big sector overlap going on. When I was working on weather report half of the sounds in underground club could be hear above it, shit sucked

>>11915358
You live under a rock. There is a huge number of Duke mods around, more than Blood, and at least as many as Quake. It has less than Doom, but then again, only Super Mario World can compare.

In addition, there are three Duke mods that blow out of the water anything from Doom wads, Alien Armageddon, AMC Squad and Demon Throne. The amount of detail and the sheer size of those are mind blowing, more massive than most modern games, let alone those from the 90s.

>>11919180
>There is a huge number of Duke mods around, more than Blood

On ModDb alone (which isn't the only source I know) there are more than three times the amount of Duke mods to Blood mods. I will take Anon's point it's not as plentiful as the Doom scene, but no game is quite frankly.

Anyone here play this? I'm enjoying the levels so far and the aesthetic is cool but I can see it getting tiring after 30 maps.

>>11919309
I liked it, but it gets pretty fucking hard by the 3rd episode. Ravendesk's guest map is pretty fantastic if you tried that yet.

>>11919326
yeah I took a peek at some of the later levels and saw kill counts in the thousands lol
I love me some slaughter slop though so I am excited for that

>>11913065
OP absolutely REKT

>>11919254
I just checked. You’re full of shit.

>>11919031
>Texture is not aligned because build engine is pure numbers game bullshit, making more wall splits or drawing on bigger grid helps fix it, usually always draw by power of 2, this is also will help with aligning floor tiles since those can't be stretched. 128, 256, 512, 1024 etc.
Jesus, and I thought UDB was jank...

>>11919309
I only played it in multiplayer but I'll enjoy a sepia challenge if someone makes one

>>11919386
That what you get for having texture stretching. Honestly doesn't matter much if you good at drawing sectors. My biggest issue with build is wall limit, it's so small :(

>>11918649
desu

>>11919458
>That what you get for having texture stretching
I don't understand what you mean here. Do you mean quite literally stretching a texture? Cause UDB has that too with like... 2 times less the headaches.

>>11919508
Well I never tried UDB so can't say if it's good or not

Necromantic Thrist got too hard and I dropped from Hurt Me Plenty to Not Too Rough. I'm getting old(er). MAP23 Spectral Shift broke me, that one arena with the chomping instakill stones with the horde of monsters and like 5 Cyberdemons was unbeatable for me. If I was focusing on dodging the instakill stones ate me. When I was dodging too little the monsters got me. I gave up.

>>11919309
the mapping seems competent but the palette is super-ultra-mega-gay

>>11919507
Desu Nukem

>>11918870
I wonder, what's the best way to play custom doom wads with randoms?
I don't usually play multiplayer but if there's a playerbase on the kex port or zandronum or something I'd like to know.
Preferably no gameplay mods unless it's just a vanilla enhancement like smooth doom, although that isn't a dealbreaker for me.

>there's a setting in GZdoom to organize saves by date and time saved
I'm such a fucking idiot, looking through them alphabetically for so long... comparing time stamps manually.

>>11919839
Well, Doomseeker was how to do it if you wanted to easily scoop up whatever wads servers were running. It complicates the question if you only want vanilla. I think you can run filters for that though.

>>11919839
Well, you can make a server in Doomseeker and hope someone joins it.

>>11919371

Duke Nukem 3D Mods: 158
https://www.moddb.com/games/duke-nukem-3d/mods

Blood Mods: 40
https://www.moddb.com/games/blood/mods

What am I missing?

Every duke nukem custom map is shit.
Episode 4 is shit.
TCs are shit.
My own maps made knowing custom maps are shit are shit.
Why?

>>11919924
Not enough boobs.

Is it just me, or is Chocolate Doom broken right out of the box? Fresh install, crash on boot, every time.

>>11919859
>>11919863
Nice thanks, i'll check it out.

>>11919924
shit happens

>>11919939
Works on my machine. I'm playing it right now.

>>11919939
How does it crash? Does it print anything if you launch it from console?

>>11919871
Sorry, I misread your post. I thought you were claiming the opposite, that there are more Blood mods than Duke.

>>11915257
Not gonna be around for the rest of the week, if someone else wants to make the clouds in the meantime then go for it: https://catalog.neet.tv/harlequin.html
Pic related are my settings, everything else is set to default (feel free to experiment though). Not gonna bother giving a heads up for this sort of thing anymore, I know for a fact that at least one other person has been making the clouds from time to time and I think we can all agree that it's not too important who makes them as long as they know what they're doing. So from now on, just assume that I couldn't make it if the thread makes it to around 100 posts and it still hasn't been posted. I'll let you guys know if I ever feel like quitting altogether but I don't see that happening anytime soon for now.

>>11920012
Gives an error mesage that says:
>Error: Bad V_DrawPatch
Google-Fu tells me it's related to mouse sensitivity, but I'm just using the default value of 3, so that shouldn't be it.

>>11920076
What IWAD are you using and where did you get it?

>>11920096
Doom2. Now that you mention it, Doom 1 is working fine.

>>11920106
Try this: https://files.catbox.moe/thc2cw.zip

>>11920109
Thanks, anon. I'll give this a shot.

>>11920060
Neat. I always wondered how you did these.

>>11919924
never played shaky grounds?

>>11920189
top tier episode

>>11920189
reminds me of Ashes sometimes, looks better IMO

>>11920189
inspirational shit, got me into build engine mapping

>>11920189
>98/151 25min
>71/158 16min
>109/160 22min
I'll probably clear Hellbound with Armadosia in less than this

>>11920189
>>11920197
>>11920204
>>11920212
>>11920216
These kind of mappings are goddamn impressive

it's like niggas never played the Roch series

>>11920189
>>11920273
Looks like I have a next mod to play through lined up. Eviternity 2 is taking me a while in the meantime.

>>11920467
Have fun! Don't miss the secret exit on map14.

>>11920516
Good to know. I hate missing those.

>>11920237
>megawad with megawad
huh?
On the topic of long levels eviternity 1's levels are actually a lot briefer than I remember, map 15 might as well be an Erik Alm speedmap in comparison to the average level in EV2
I hated the episode 2 secret map the first time around playing unmodded, only partly because I didn't know the archviles in the final room are supposed to be killed by the gimmick and I peekabooed them with 50 rockets, and partly because a turret cyberdemon threatening instakills over the course of a 3 hour map is not my cup of tea.
I also forgot how high Solomon's stats are, jumping and running around at doomguy speeds with 400 7.62 in stock, but it's all needed here

>>11920189
These screenshots look sick as fuck. How's the difficulty on these?

>>11920531
Hah, I just played "Charge" for the first time yesterday. The 2k monster count really concerned me before reaching that room.
I figured that many archies probably weren't meant to be engaged normally.

>>11919854
if it makes you feel any better, they added that option literally last update

>>11920691
Oh. That does make a difference actually. I think I only upgraded my version like last month anyways.

>>11920053

No problem. Glad I'm not going crazy!

>>11920878
>Glad I'm not going crazy!

Meh, personally I feel that sanity is overrated. It's a one trick pony. Ooh, rational thought, big whoop. But when you're good and crazy, the sky's the limit!

>>11919924
I haven't played much Duke custom maps so disregard my opinion all you want.
I believe that's because Duke maps are not utilizing the abstractness enough. For some reason everyone decided that just because Build is more advanced than Doom engine and can pull out whatever crazy ""realistic"" landscapes, they don't need to rely on abstract kind of Doom mapping that much anymore.
When in reality this abstract design is what helps to make interesting "flow" of the map, because when you're not concerned with making your map to look more realistic, all you're left to be concerned with is to make it more fun gameplay-wise, whether it's combat or puzzles/exploration. Sure you still need it to look good, but the priorities are kinda different imo. of course as we can see with modern gigantism purple-orange-acidgreen maps that are just one huge slaughter that's not always the case
I'm not saying they're mutually exclusive, just that in chase for the realism and persuasiveness people might forget about the arcade gameplay.

>>11919924
>me using DN3DooM to sidestep the issue entirely

>>11920237
I like taking my maps slow, plus I was looking for secrets and spots to screenshot there. No need to compare it to slaughershit, Duke has strict map limits and gameplay is fundamentally different. >>11920559
fist map is the toughest because you haven't assembled your arsenala yet, just starting out. Also a bit low on medkits too, but duke can drink piss out of toilets so health is never a problem if you can wait few minutes slurping toilet water

>>11921097
>Duke maps are not utilizing the abstractness enough
got you covered, E9L99 was this years big one
https://youtu.be/CMt6Sj7iRvk?si=h_QkGyFlIcwSFzS6

>>11920432
based Roch appreciator

>>11915936
>youtube video essays
It's a complete analytical wasteland, especially for popular consumer products like video games. And as for that video specifically, never mind the hair-brained ideas in Doom TDA, but nu-Doom even from the beginning was waist high in modern game trends that I have no affection for.

>>11918725
Even using cartridges from other manufacturers ?

>>11921347
Etheric Artistry making them reverse-engineered knockoff cartridges.

Any full-3D mods/TCs/games for GZDoom and it's derivatives aside from Total Chaos?

>>11921524
Have you tried Doom?

>>11921572
Nigga you for real? You know what I mean.

>>11919924
What are you? Some bottom-feeding, scum-sucking algae eater?

>>11921573
Doom in GZDoom is full 3D. You can jump and it has vertical aiming. This is also true for Doom II: The Sequel to Doom.

>>11921613
Fuck you man. I meant mods and games that rely on 3D models for assets, not sprites. I'm done talking to you if you wanna be this obtuse.

>>11921616
3D models for assets, not sprites
You mean like Doom?

https://youtu.be/f5k1aDaj0qs

Oh..Oh holy shit. Something has awakened inside me.

>>11921625
There is no need to be rude, I was just about to share with you my favorite fully 3D GZDoom game. Pic related.

>>11918725
What about the bees from the first level of X-Men for Genesis? The sounds they made weren't exactly bee-like, but they were memorable and not grating on the ears.

>>11921097
Standard practice is to grey box (make a map with no details or textures) and focus on gameplay elements. Then detail that map with a visual theme in mind.
Going from doom mapping where you can probably get away with abstract maps and then name them "bloodcore processing" or something, to something like Duke where you shoot for a realistic location, is probably a big leap for most mappers.
I wonder what the level design process was for Duke 3d. I'd look it up, but I'm phone posting.

>>11921625
That looks like total gar-bitch.

Pro-tip. Nobody can say your map is underdetailed if they can't actually see your map.

>>11921625
I like the way this sucks.

>>11921819
is that a moai on the left

>>11921831
Yes, charred moai jumpscare.

>Yearly Half-life replay
>get to Power Up, fix and switch on the generator
>Okay, now time to blow up the Gargantua
>Run to the main room and... pic related.
>wat
>Reload, do the chapter over again
>Still happens. Faggot is trapped inside because it was open at the start when he chased me around, but switching on the power locks the gate you need to progress
Huh. I've never encountered this bug before. I'm assuming they did a new update and it fucked a few things up? It's easily solved with noclip, but I hate using cheats since it breaks immersion.

>>11921912
I've never seen it either, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there before. They did an update... Last year? Recently anyway. Try on Xash maybe. I'm not sure which is more accurate to the original between that and steam

>>11921625
Voxel doom is such a great idea. It's more a novelty than something I'd want to play with for an extended period but I don't think you could get much more sprite accurate in 3d.

>>11921683
Rebirth of Cronos

>>11913164
I hereby revoke your challenge-posting privileges until you have completed Duke3D

>>11921912
I found that the elevator at the start of Blast Pit and the one with the tripwires and hgrunts coming down would kill me unless I stood dead center of the elevator or mashed jump. Never seen that before and first time replaying since the anniversary update.

>>11921946
What do duke3d fans think of alien world order?

>>11921951
Maybe it's because I came straight out of bothering to play Black Mesa all the way through for the first time, but the HECU marines seem... less aggressive somehow. Like I've been able to get the jump on a few who were ignoring the fighting just across the room from them. I think the update fucked a few things.

>>11913064 (OP)
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1291938

Isto é entre tu e eu, nem te atreves a dizer ao jica

Mas sabias que a Helena no ano passado teve um aborto que custou 3000€?

E mais uma pergunta
Quem é que violou a Helena quando era pequena?
O Norberto, um professor de matemática ou de natação?
Foste tú? Até acredito
(Muito obrigado, pedofilo filho da puta chamada Alzira)
A pior parte é que ela deve ter gostado e isso explica tudo

Tenta não violar o bebê neto da tua gold digger, mr Ian Watkins

E também não vou tomar conta de quinta nenhuma
Quando morreres, essa quinta vai para os ciganos
Já estamos a lidar com as maldições da puta da Tia Mila
Já é triste e engraçado ao mesmo tempo ver o parvo do Tio Zé a apodrecer com as merdas dos avós
Queimam essa merda toda
"Legado de senpaiília" é um cancro

Não admira que o Jica vai ao Porto, atirar os pensos da sua mangina para outra parede

George "I built my career saying the most basic opinions and made the world more retarded" Carlin
Grande mistério que algumas pessoas são "vítimas" de violação

Quando o cocó atrai moscas, temos que lidar com as Vios e Reneés, só para alguém queixar que fez demasiados contactos
"sobre socialização" existe

Sou um gamedev com centenas de ideias, o glitterboy João Lúcio não compara

Quando a Helena se matar, lembra de onde vai ser enterrada para poderes viola-la mais uma vez

A senpaiília é a prisão original
Correntes desde o dia 1
És nascido com um perfil predefinido e informação que não escolheste
Já és obrigado a saber nomes de pessoas e levar merdas até quando és pequeno
Mas um dia, tem que haver um recomeço
Já demasiadas pessoas subiram as escadas, mando as escadas a baixo

I wish nothing but pain and misfortune upon niggerfaggots that make maps with insta-death fall platforming

>>11921946
Damn I guess i'm doing it then
Is rednukem good port since I already have it as part of nblood?

What's a good doom wad for someone that used to identify as communist but now only supports anarco-capitalist ideas?

Anyone else like the PS1 soundtrack for Dook? That version had a horrible framerate and the new episode is mediocre at best, but I always preferred that soundtrack over the PC.

>>11922027
Ok got it from https://archive.org/details/dn3d_reg
I'll guess I'll play on dos for a bit before setting up a port
Is this difficulty good choice?

>>11922050
Come Get Some is pretty much the UV equivalent. Damn I'm Good makes enemies respawn unless you gib them, which can be a pain in the ass.

>>11922039
Brutal Doom is made for 14 year olds.

>>11922062
Ok cool. Is freelook basically required like in Blood? If not can I just run it with NOVERT.COM?

>>11921962
It's good, might be my favorite now that I can play it in any port. The only credit I'll give Randy for the past two decades is using his Randybucks to get Blum and Levelord to work on it.
>DHAMM

>>11922067
Duke and SW are built around autoaim, there are even some exploits you can do in Duke 3d if you turn it off in a more modern port (shrinking battlelord sentries)
I would recommend either novert and keyboard look, or BMOUSE, the mouselook in the original build engine on DOS is atrocious because it doesn't properly poll both axes at the same time.
https://archive.org/details/BMOUSE

>>11922027
RedNukem is fine for the original campaign, but it might break custom maps.

>>11922067
>Is freelook basically required like in Blood?
The original game comes with vertical aiming off, so no. I used to use the PgUp/PgDn keys when I first played. And Blood also does not require vertical aim, I dunno where you got this idea from.

The original music recorded on an actual Roland SC-55 is a must-have mod:
https://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#duke3d
Create a new folder in your RedNukem / eduke32 directory. Rename that folder to "autoload." Place the zip file in that folder.

>>11922027
RedNukem is fine for the original campaign, but it might break custom maps.

>>11922067
>Is freelook basically required like in Blood?
The original game comes with vertical aiming off, so no. I used to use the PgUp/PgDn keys when I first played. And Blood also does not require vertical aim, I dunno where you got this idea from.

The original music recorded on an actual Roland SC-55 is a must-have mod:
https://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#duke3d
It will make your music sound like this >>11913128
Create a new folder in your RedNukem / eduke32 directory. Rename that folder to "autoload." Place the zip file in that folder.

>>11922094
>shrinking battlelord sentries
Not impossible in vanilla.

>>11921962
Telling you it sucks is underselling how bad world order is.
It is not worth the comparability issues that come with it.
t. duke3d fan

Mapping protip #2:
If they aren't impressed by how dark your level is, you can always dazzle them with the skull sky.

>>11922039
You like to think in dream logic, so I guess try out A.L.T.
Maybe also with Brutal Doom, as said.

>>11922309
What wad?

>>11921962
Mostly good, ranging from decent to fantastic, Golden Carnage is unironically just a damn find level.

>>11922326
Will be a map in Skulltiverse II (Currently community project in development)

>https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
why is the RR folder a GOG installer with nonexistent music

>>11921347
I thought about that but they're all ultimately different flavors of rectangle at a quick glance.

>>11921690
I'll look into it. I was hoping someone else out there would know about some bees in a Genesis game.

>>11922372
>chilling with the boys and then the weird green dude shows up and kills everyone

Zandronum got a small update yesterday, fixing some small things including player skin sounds sometimes not playing properly. Nice.

>>11922372
The strafe to the window for style points must've really put the fear into that lone zombieman

>>11921962
the 5th episode? Mirage Barrage and Golden Carnage are in the top of Duke maps of all time. For me though its the new music, Lee Jackson doesn't miss, its all great. Flamethrower gun is op as fuck and firefly troopers are terrible addition, underbaked enemy. Either it kills you instantly or dies from a pipebomb like its nothing. The worst part is baby fart of a final boss, so bad it retroactively stains the episode, making you know that it will always end with a whimper

>>11922372
Is there a port with demo playback that lets you free-camera ghost along with the playback?

>>11922489
PrBoom+ has it, and its forks.

>>11922489
https://youtu.be/ip8ZVri9XVQ

>>11922579
>PrBoom+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031vKBPk5eA

>>11922596
kino

>>11922138
Hehe nice secret
>>11922062
come gets some turned out pretty difficult, I went with let's rock

>>11921625
DOOM the way it was meant to be.

>>11918725
The Haunting Starring Polterguy. One of the hauntings is a flower vase that emits wasps/bees, and they make a convincing Genesis buzzing sound that is easy on the ears.

>>11922656
Enjoying it so far. Shrinking plasma thingy is cool gimmick, although it took me time to figure out that it doesn't kill me first time I encountered it. Using survelliance cameras to show what switches do is cool too. And it's been playable so far without freelook. Don't really understand the kill counter in eduke32 like why is it showing 73/73 in the screenshot while there are still monsters left?

>>11923103
Kill counts in the original were unreliable because enemies won't show up in the total before they spawn. Bugs and mapping errors will mess up the numbers more. Depending on how eduke keeps count it might have errors of its own.

>>11922656
>Hehe nice secret

>>11922656
Did they actually trace the doomguy sprite for that sprite?

>>11923327
I honestly thought it was JoJo

>>11923334
Doesn't look like it.

>>11923349
Caleb even says "Oooh, shake it baby!"

Quakecon tomorrow.

Place bets on what Nightdives latest release is.

For me, it's Heretic + Hexen with the same framework as last year's Doom 1+2 release.

>>11922596
4:25 lmao

>>11923568
Can't wait for another wave of history revisionism "acshually Heretic and Hexen were always good and beloved". It's not like any of them will get to Sump anyway.
Also >>11917090

>>11923590
Heretic was always beloved by those who actually played it.

Hexen I'm not so sure.

>>11923568
Still crossing my fingers for Quake 3.

>>11913078
I thought it was Commander Keen for a second

anyone else really hate this sprite of the revenant firing from behind? something about it reminds me of some shitass fourth grader named landon or some retarded shit like that.

>>11923568
Quake with Unreal 5 graphics like the Oblivion remaster

>>11923703
Thanks, I hate it. They couldn't even do Quake with fucking Quake graphics and had to patch it multiple times.

>>11923568
Wolfenstein 3D + Spear of Destiny

>>11923568
It's Heretic and Hexen. They always go on sale every QuakeCon, but not this year. Same thing happened with Quake 1 and 2 before the remasters were announced.

>>11923568
Doom + Doom II 2

>>11923820
Getting both games in a combined package like this is nice since I don't think there's a solid sourceport to play these games in besides GZDoom.

>>11923103
Build engine is like this. Never trust the monster counts in these games.

>>11923568
I'd like to see Nightdive revive NOLF or AVP2, but the bigger issue with these are rights hell, I think.

>>11923568
Assuming they're doing one id remaster a year for every Quakecon, what else is left?
>Heretic + Hexen
>Wolfenstein 3D
>Commander Keen
>Quake 3

>>11923568
How about a curve Ball and they do Bethesda's early Terminator FPS games?

That would be sick

>>11923954
Wolf 3D would be so fucking lame dude. What a waste of time and resources. What you can play it in 120fps and 90fov? Who gives a fuck. Fuck no.

>>11923568
Expecting Nightdive to abandon the new Doom port like it currently is.

>>11923965
I'd love for a package which features the 2nd Encounter and 3rd Encounter sets, along with the map screen, and the new weapons and items.
Mac/SNES style graphics optional, but a fully completed kind.

Of course, if it's Nightdive, then they're gonna halfass it.

>>11922596
Cool.

>>11923568
Quake III with all the various content from its different versions

>>11923987
I think it's a shame id24 is seemingly never going anywhere. Are all the features it has being rolled into MBF2y?

Played a WAD called Zzul Bases recently, it's three short, relatively normal techbase levels followed by a secret map which is the most insane platforming map I've ever played in Doom. It was absurdly frustating even with constant saving but also weirdly rewarding, worth checking out if you hate yourself.

>>11923965
Agreed. Unlike Doom, Wolf3D is a game that belongs on a shelf for its importance, but not to be played.

>>11923978
What's wrong with kex Doom? (besides being obnoxiously longer to boot up)

>>11923590
Heretic was always beloved, wasn't it? It was just a lot more niche than Doom.

>>11924000
Seemingly. Nightdive are usually not interested in finishing the work they started, and the actual port and engine devs in the overall Doom community were not exactly ecstatic at the sudden unannouced drop, or its implementation (like the fucking negative DeHacked range).

A lot of people liked certain features though, so many of them have been copied from ID24, in lieu of implementing a literally unfinishee spec.

>>11923598
I love Hexen. If anything it's Heretic that makes it hard for me to love it. It's cool and all but the enemies are so tanky and the weapons aren't as satisfying as doom's arsenal because they are magical instead of firearms and go pew pew zap zap instead of boom boom.
I still haven't played the expansion.

>>11923961
I don't think many people care about Future Shock. Hell even bethesda themselves might not care or even remember about it.

>>11924029
Crashes, new spec which they dropped out of nowhere and just expected everyone to accept, even though it's unfinished and they didn't consult any devs. Unlikely to finish as well, because if Nightdive doesn't finish something on release, they usually then never will.

>>11913070
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/tag/nugget-doom-4.4.0
Nugget Doom 4.4.0 Released

>>11921962
Mirage Barrage is great, but plagued with coding issues. Inactive enemies behind pillars can be killed with a small explosion, due to coding error. Newbeasts on slopes can't use their shrinker properly.

Golden Carnage is awesome.

Tour de Nukem starts as a random usermap, but I love the sewer/subway/battlelord area.

The rest are okay.

>>11924061
Well, they should definitely address crashing. I did have a problem with that back when SIGIL 2 had to be downloaded through their browser before it was implemented in the menu. So I definitely believe you.

>>11924054
Im the same as you. Hexen is masterpiece and Heretic is mediocre, way worse than DOOM. On the other hand Hexen2 is absolutely awful failure of a game and Heretic2 is pretty good game on its own.

>>11921962
I went in wanting to hate it, because I just loathe Randy Pitchford and I don't want to chalk up a win for him. But the episode itself is actually pretty decent. The new shrinky flamethrower alien is actually a threat, and I respect that. The flamethrower itself is just OK. Kind of neat because I like DoT but it never felt amazing to use.

>>11924067
>Improved randomization for Bloodier Gibbing
I love how he doesn't mess around.

I wonder how many people finished hexen without guides when it came out The first hub is easily the worst one and the KORAX book "puzzle" later in the game must've been borderline impossible to even notice with 320x200.
I think the same hub which has the book "puzzle" also has a softlock if you kill some of the enemies at the same time, so you can brick your entire playthrough. I think hexen is easily the best looking sprite-era game and the characters each feel great, but the "puzzles" are shit to put it mildly. The expansion pack dialed it back on them and is way less frustrating.

>>11924086
>The expansion pack dialed it back on them and is way less frustrating
But it cranked up the enemy respawns, which to me is worse.
And I personally didn't finish the first hub without help. Couldn't figure out the switches on the top floor of Guardian of Steel would move walls on the basement.

>>11924086
I finished Hexen without guides and I can confirm at one point in the first hub there was a single door still locked in the main area and I kept roaming around for an hour looking for a fucking switch. I don't even remember what it was in the end but I did get it.
Honestly, I almost respect making the very first hub the most confusing one by far. It's the devs saying "this is what you're in for fucker, buckle up."

>>11923590
Heretic is just a great fantasy-themed Doom clone. It's always had a good reputation.

Hexen is a bit more divisive particularly because of its convoluted level design, exploration, and puzzles but it would have been a genre defining classic if it were more dungeon crawly like Diablo. It has a similar atmosphere.

>>11924106
>Heretic is just a great fantasy-themed Doom clone
This is too reductionist. Is blood just a horror-themed Doom? Is Shadow Warrior just a ninja-themed Doom? Is duke just a Schwarzenegger-themed doom? Sure, they are all of that but they aren't "just" that. The feeling when playing them is different enough for them to be their own thing.

fucking hell

>>11924104
All of the best 90s retro fps games were front loaded with good reason. If you have a poor experience starting out, you're unlikely to expect anything good later. For example, doom 1/2, duke3d and blood are relatively front loaded. Hexen kind of sucks in the first hub and gets way better later, the last hub is braindead straightforward[/spoiler ] and I highly doubt most people bother with it past the shittest.

Seems like the main complaint about Hexen is that vanilla maps are too confusing.
Why nobody has ever done a megawad for Hexen which is still Hexen in essence but without things some people hate about Hexen?

>>11924140
>but without things some people hate about Hexen
Because that's just Heretic.

>>11924128
>front loaded with good reason.

Because that was the shareware bit they sold the rest of the game on.

>>11924118
Heretic runs on the Doom engine and uses a lot of the same weapons and enemy behavior so it's not unfair to call it a Doom clone, but it brought a lot more to the table than I think people give it credit for and it certainly evolved the genre more than Doom II did.

>>11924151
>but it brought a lot more to the table
Like? It brought inventory which I still believe is total trash, and replacing it with regular pickups would be much better (same for Quake 2).

>>11924151
I'm not saying it isn't a clone, but it isn't *just* a clone. Like you said it brought some innovations to the engine.

>>11924151
>so it's not unfair to call it a Doom clone

It's Doom wearing a fake mustache and saying "Dhoom? Who ees thees Dhoom?"

>>11923965
Wolf 3D deserves better than the DOSBox port on Steam in 2025, but Brutal Wolfenstein 7.0 already does a Wolf 3D + Spear remake way better than anything Nightdive could do. All Wolf 3D needs is a basic ECWolf-style remaster which could be done in a few days.

>>11924165
ECWolf by itself solves the two biggest problems I have with vanilla Wolf3D by adding an automap and independent strafe left/right keys. Unfortunately, its behavior isn't 100% accurate to the original engine, last I checked. It's been a few years and for all I know they could've fixed that by now.

>>11924183
>Unfortunately, its behavior isn't 100% accurate to the original engine, last I checked.
I've played a lot of Wolf 3D back in the day, and a lot of ECWolf Wolf 3D, and I don't notice anything other than
>ECWolf lets you hear when the blue SS are firing their machine guns around a corner for a few seconds, vanilla doesn't
>ECWolf has a consistent speed for the flamethrower balls by the Fake Hitler enemies, vanilla's is tied to the framerate or something
Even if there's something else, it's all very minor stuff, I couldn't care less.

>>11924156

I enjoyed Heretic and Hexen, but it's hard to see the innovation when Ultima Underworld was already a thing. If anything they took that model and dumbed it (doombed it, heh) down.

Nick Newhard did a Q&A recently and said he wants to make a Wild West-themed Blood prequel about Caleb's gunslinger days, with Tchernobog and the Cabal involved https://twitch.tv/videos/2527376003

Hey everyone, my name is John Nightdive, founder of Nightdive Studios and I heard you guys had some questions about our involvement with this year's QuiakeCon.

>>11924203
And I want to die in a passionate orgy with a dozen supermodels, doesn't mean it's gonna go that way.

>>11924118
Heretic feels like a TC for Doom

>>11924303
I've played vanilla Doom WADs that feel more different to Doom than Heretic lol

>>11922596
It's like Aragorn's ghost army.

>grrr...
What is Doom Launcher of Quake launchers? I want something similar but it needs to be pretty much on the par. Otherwise I just keep using .bat files for Quake.

>>11924390
Quake Injector I guess is the most complex one.
Other there's Simple Quake Launcher...
I can't even think of anything else.

>>11924404
I'll check out QI...
I'm organizing all of my addon stuff for Quake. It's great way of procrastination.
Already did this with Doom few months back but DoomLauncher is really handy for this.

>>11924390
Quake ports discovered the internal mod menu like HL and id Tech 4, so launchers are kind of superfluous.

>>11924390
Like with kills/secrets stats, played time, screenshots and saves synchronization? Nothing afaik.

>>11924413
That's pansy ass bloat... I want to stay on track - not wade through multiple menus just to find out what I was supposed to be currently playing.

>>11924128
>duke3d is front-loaded
I don't get why people like the episode 1 levels more than 2-4. It only has six levels, and two of them are The Abyss and Death Row

>>11924447

Lovely memories - it's one of the high color preview shots I suppose...

>>11924464
Episode 1 is great aside from the abyss. Episode 2 is just mediocre to bad throughout. I overall think that 3 is the best, 4 has high highs and and some bad lows. The shooting gallery in babeland is irredeemable.

>>11924447
>bloat
>wade through menus
You are an especially dumb nigger.

>>11924484
E2 is best

>>11923568
Hopefully they will do another ID vault release for Doom. (Maybe I am a retard but I get the feeling there may of been more unused content they did not release. Still wish faggot Romero would of just posted all the fucking shit at once back in 2014.

What's the original ID crew doing nowadays? Sandy's making tabletop games. Carmack is doing AI stuff I think? Romero got fired recently, maybe he's sending his curriculum to all gas stations in his area now. What about Adrian, Tom and Kevin? Is Bobby Prince still making music? Shawn worked on Daikatana and then fell off the Earth? What's Jay up to these days? Did Tim die of anal bleeding already?

>>11924494
My Duke3D ranking is E1=E2>E3. I have a weird bias with the fourth episode and have trouble placing it, might have to replay it again.

I was not expecting Turbo Tunnel in Doom. I would pull my hair out if I had to do this entire stage without saving.

>>11924586
I don't think Bobby does composing anymore, from what I can tell, he the only thing he does publicly anymore is spew progressive boomer shit on social media. Adrian I think is fully retired from the game industry now, Kevin seems to be retired mostly, guy doesn't have any social media accounts or anything. His wikipedia page says he worked as a lead producer for Doom 2016 & did "additional development support" on Eternal, who know what those both could mean. Tom Hall is kind of in the same boat as Bobby, he seems to mainly just do social media posting now. (that's where I got this based face of him from)

>>11924485
>le nigger
You are missing the point here entirely. You are the one with sub 80 iq.

>>11924494
E2 has some underrated layouts, but I think everyone hates how tanky drones are. Octabrains have a cheat where they die to exactly 1 devastator round, but the suicide bomber drones DON'T? And have additional projectile dodging code on top of meaty HP? Not to mention shrink ray doesn't work on them. Somebody was trying to piss off players with these fuckers.
I know about the door trick, but I'm not even sure that was intentional design and not just engine exploits.

>>11924636
Enjoy prison, stalker.

>>11924464
The Abyss is one of the best finisher maps ever in any FPS though. Fantastic build up modern boomshoot sloppa could only dream of. Ep1 deserves it's legendary status though, there's no filler like in ep3, no drones and battlelord spam from ep2. I'm not a big fan of ep4 because all maps are much more thematic in there, for better or worse. Ep2 is my favourite though but I understand why people don't like it

>>11924625
It's genius and retarded at the same time, definitely one of the highlights of that wad for me. I'm glad I didn't miss it.

>>11924625
>>11924642
Also I switched ports midway through, and as far as I can tell, playing the map on gzdoom makes it a lot harder than dsda doom, cause of some weird movement differences.

>>11924642
It's so mean in design but I do have to give them credit. It's really cool and super clever.

>>11924643
Interesting. You can make it a LITTLE easier even in gzDoom by walking backwards to slow your speed by maybe 25-50% which definitely helps at parts. You just can't do it too much or the explosive wave will catch up to you which I found out the hard way.

It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!
Come play some SRB2Kart!
WE ARE STILL ON NEPTUNE 2.4.3!

How to join (The short and easy way):
Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/JrsETLaJ#Ny7E1Uu7ftp-2Yojpdj04Rc5xucKgV1V6H2DPboPzLA
Extract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)
Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-game
DO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.
If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folder

How to join (The longer and harder way):
Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exe
Get the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.4.3
Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/
Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)

>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOW
We also have a Mumble server!
Address: 51.161.34.159
Port: default
Password: endoom

>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?
No.

Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq
(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)

>>11923568
Modern re-release of PSX Doom and Final Doom with 8k widescreen, 60fps, and ray-tracing.

>>11923568
>Place bets on what Nightdives latest release is.
It's not happening but I'd like to see something for Doom 3. In typing this I probably triggered some monkey paw somewhere and now it's more likely going to be something for Quake 4.

>>11924637
>>11924641
My bias towards E2 is that it blew me away as a kid so in my mind its still the coolest and most creative. My bias against The Abyss is that I got repeatedly lost in it as a kid, particularly the San Andreas fault trigger and the shrink ray puzzle.

Today is Sunlust's 10th birthday.

>>11924795
Someone get this underage b& out of here!

>>11924758
>BFG Edition fuckery undone
>shotgun made good
>monsters more aggressive
Could be great, but probably not going to happen.
I'd settle for proper Trenchbroom support for a potential uptick in custom maps.

>>11924765
I liked E2 because I'm a big sci-fi nerd, so an episode in space ships was interesting to me. The rocket that patrols around the border of the stage, taking potshots at you with RPG rounds... the secret in the Enterprise's bridge And the REALLY Ready Room was a cherry on top. Even with all that good will, explosive drones really make me look back on the levels with disdain. I don't even dislike challenge, but drones don't feel like a good kind of challenge. Just annoyingly tanky ammo thieves.

>>11924806
>I'd settle for proper Trenchbroom support for a potential uptick in custom maps.
That's all I'd want plus another Nerve Software-tier mini expansion, I already have the means to edit weapons and monsters.

>>11924795
I remember when I played Sunlust. It was one of the greatest and also one of the most miserable experiences of my life.

>>11924464
Abyss and Death Row are good maps, what do you mean?

>>11924765
Mine was playing the shareware episode a ton, so when I finally get to playing the retail version I was pretty blown away by E2M1 and that tune. The drones, the battelords, the enforcers, I enjoyed dealing with the difficulty spike.
My bias against episode 3 is that it felt like a less memorable episode 1, even if it was nice going back to the city with the full enemy cast; any time I think I'm recalling an episode 3 level I go "oh wait that's from episode 4 actually". The way >>11922456 describes the end of episode 5 also captures PERFECTLY how I felt about the end of episode 3, such an absolute wet fart of an endboss and a huge "that was it?" feeling.

The hate towards the drones is overblown, IMO.

>>11924795
Damn I remember being happy back then lol

>>11924934
You can use doors to nullify that overblowing.

>>11924934
Like SW's bees, Blood's rats and eels, I find them all tolerable with vanilla autoaim. A drone exploding also feels way worse than it actually is.

>>11923568
Romero's D2 wad gets a commercial release.

>>11923568
Tekwar

>>11925017
Could be cool honestly. The first book is pretty solid.

>>11925007
Romero's too busy working at a gas station now. He doesn't have time to play deathma- I mean, make maps for D2 anymore.

>>11925030
He bought a gas station from Juarez and lives there with his seven cousins.

Hey,I have a question in general here.
Do I release the mod now to doomworld
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/8p71jzeu9uuk9a0xjem91/Absurdism-0.9.0..zip?rlkey=pxlgargnf0k2j6gp6h3pyv3bq&st=ynaqnwv8&dl=0
I say this since I honestly have my doubts if anyone there is going to accept something this absurd as this

Are you niggers awake yet?

>>11925179
>>>/v/

>>11924934
>>11924979
Yeah, pretty much sums it up. They could have less HP for sure but it is what it is. Sometimes I just rush into them and tank damage, it's not that bad

>haven't played Q3 in a decade
>get Quake Live on a whim
>mistake
>get kicked from server
>try to join some other server
>please register some faggot website .net
>no thanks
>every server is duel or something else, no normal ffa or tdm to be found
Now I realized that normal corporation mandated serverless matchmaking has its own benefits too...

>>11925227
i quit QL but i heard qlstats closed, you probably need to register at "some faggot .net website" to get a ranking for the glicko system now that they can't use your steam id because of the GDPR

there were plenty of NA servers for CA last i looked (all other modes except FFA are dead though)

>>11924795
>The Summer of Sunlust
Doesn't seem like there's ever been a better time to play Sunlust. If you never played it, or have trouble sticking to a megawad until completion, maybe we can play one map per day.
WEDNESDAY AUGUST 6 - MAP01
It's map01 so it's easy enough. I recorded a demo, but it's not for you, it's only for me.

>>11925179
>ZOOM platform
can't make this shit up

>>11925235
I think you are living in a very different world than me then...

>>11925227
QL is cucked beyond belief. That shit doesn't even have gibs without mods. I unironically reapect a guy playing Quake Arena Arcade by himself more than anybody who plays that trash. I'd tell you to just go play the original game but it's completely dead ever since CROM FFA shut down. The best you'll get are hundreds of empty bot servers or some garbage like Retro FFA or Lightning with retarded settings and niceguy redditor CROM immigrants who play for 20 minutes every few days. What a fucking shame, Q3 used to be god tier.

>>11925290
Yeah this is what it looked like. Of course it's probably good thing to wait for the weekend.
I don't want to regret wasting $3...yet.

>>11924685
GGs

>>11924685
GGs

Q3A has something what QL doesn't have. Even against bots it works as a distraction. Pretty cool game.

/vr/ Quake 3 night when?
Or any Quake, really.

>>11925397
I would love to curbstomp you fags on q3dm7 but unfortunately 99% of """people""" in this gen just want to play shitty DOOM wads, jerk off Arcane Dimensions and talk about Joh Romero's egg-cracking agenda so it will never happen.

>>11925254
https://files.catbox.moe/v5ekc0.lmp
I forgot how beautiful map01 was. I still remember when it was beyond my skill level to beat it on uv a year ago.

>>11925407
You want to touch a man? That might be kind of gay desu

>>11925427
Anyway I see myself getting tired of the daily sunlust challenge >>11925254. I definitely won't be able to produce one demo in a day past like map08. If you want I can setup an odamex server instead so we can blast through all maps during weekend.

>>11925439
I'd like to touch your player model with my 42% rail, that's for true.

>>11925443
I'm pretty bad at q3 but if you send me a server address I can play for a bit

>>11924685
ggs!

>>11925254
https://files.catbox.moe/v0etws.lmp
Didn't play it today, won't really be able to keep up just posting the appropriate demo per day either, but I wanted to share it.
It's my first recorded UV Max from years ago. Right out of the gates after I did a basic run of Sunlust too, and I only recorded it because of the simplicity of doing so. And in the long run I'm glad I did so because the miseries I endured with some of the latter maps is somehow a fond memory I like looking back on. Even if these demos are only really special to me, I'm happy that I have them.

>>11925446
I'm way too drunk to play right now but if we agreed on a designated time/date to play I would be 100% down. I would love to play Q3 with you fags, it might be the only chance of a few uhreena matches in this godforsaken timeline. I'd even happily give you/anybody else a good config so you don't have to suffer through 90 FOV and shit settings.

Stop eating like a n00b.
t. Fatal1ty Wendel

I've always assumed that lunge hits did the most damage during my vanilla doom playthrough. It just so happened that the more kinetic my punches were, the easier I could mow down the hordes of pinkies and chunkier were the flesh pieces of blown imps. Guess I consistently struck lucky rolls, regardless of made-up conditions.

>>11925407
Sorry buddy we don't do competitive multiplayer slop here

>>11925485
that is how it works in HDest, sorta
your momentum affects the strength of your punches, so lunging at a dude and throwing a mean left hook at him hits a lot harder than just walking up to him and punching him

>>11925485
>itt: a Marathon nerd plays Doom

>>11925492
>we suck at video games here
I know.

>>11923103
This lunar level gives me BTSX vibes

>>11925407
>q3dm7
Imagine your game being so hollow that people refer to maps by filename rather than actual name.
>This post sponsored by the Liandri Corporation.

>>11925502
Never played Marathon

>>11925501
Will I be able to enact my long old fantasy of landing klling blows to barons from across the room? For some reason it didn't work even when I aimed between the eyes.

>>11925290
There's always Open Arena
https://openarena.live/
Also I always thought it would be fun to get a game of Elite Force Holomatch going sometime.
https://holomat.ch/

>https://github.com/Jason2Brownlee/QuakeBotArchive
Remember playing with Reaper bots back in the day when they first came out but didn't know there was this many. Supposedly Frikbot++ or Frikbot4 2022 whatever are the 'best' now.
Quake multiplayer is so hilariously comical I don't know if this is even worth trying outside historical reasons.

>>11925531
I doubt it but you will be able to counterpunch a minipinky so hard it dies instantly

>>11925526
How do I deal with these fuckers properly? Each time I encounter them I'm left with no hp

>>11925764
You can actually outrun hitscanners' aim in duke 3d, you would have taken less damage if you ran from one side of the doorway to the other instead of stopping halfway and reversing back into the same cover. Steroids also help.

>>11923568
I sincerely hope they just leave Heretic and Hexen alone, these games have persisted fine without constant rereleases like Doom for the people who actually care about them.

>same framework as last year's Doom 1+2 release
The "framework" for the rerelease is fundamentally based on mbf21, which doesn't exist (in a general, demo compatible format) for the Raven games (dsda-doom supports Heretic/Hexen, but forces a dos complevel). That's not to say they couldn't do it, but it would require a lot more work for a less popular franchise. If they did release some kinda new editing standard (Rav-25?, maybe) there's a good chance the community would just mostly ignore it like they did with id-24. Reminder that Ultimate Doom Builder still doesn't' support the mapping features introduced by id24, and the standard itself is somehow still in development despite now being 2025.

The rest of the "framework" I guess is the online loader, but that would hardly work for the Raven games, since there are few pwads (especially Hexen) and they frequently require GZ.

>>11923910
>I don't think there's a solid sourceport to play these games in besides GZDoom
Idk what you mean by "solid" but crispy heretic/hexen have existed for years.

>>11925764
There will be gaps where they stop shooting to move or grenade.
If you are too close they'll shoot forever.

>>11925792
Nothing about mbf21 prevents it from being applied to other dos games. I think generalized actions/sector types are probably not going to conflict with Heretic/Hexen either.

Just need their native codepointers ported, since not everything can be replicated through generalized mbf21 code.

>>11925527
us quakers have too many good maps
>>11925670
it's not a very smart bot even against 13 year old me with a ball mouse

i very recently bought quad touch and was shocked to see less people on qw than doom, haven't set up ioquake3 yet

on that subject, are there any good bots to play against for quakes? i know the cpma bots are pretty smart but i was wondering if anything that can time items and bhop/strafe jump ever got made for qw

to anyone who said quake multiplayer is garbage:

you are the reason cod is popular, git gud

>>11925825
bfg *breaks scouter*

not even sure goku could fight that thing

>>11925792
>I sincerely hope they just leave Heretic and Hexen alone, these games have persisted fine without constant rereleases like Doom for the people who actually care about them.
They will shit the remaster slop into your mouth and you will like it, chud.

>>11925792
The framework to me is just console versions, easy game/expansion/wad switching menu, online cross play with consoles (and pc too sure ok who cares), built in mod downloader with community mod access.

That's it. And it's great. For consoles. For PC you don't need any of this. You can't hate that it'll be fucking sick to be able to jump into an online game of Heretic in minutes instead of having to debate which of the 15 different multiplayer launchers to use on pc.

>>11925407
>Bragging about being a sweaty tryhard

>>11925857
never change, /v/

you were ham handed autismos who couldn't handle anything more complex than a turn based dating sim in the '00s and you still can't

that's why halo has always been persona non grata around here (anon got butthurt he dropped an 0-30 bomb on chad's xbawks) and starcraft general became a kpop general that's banned from /vg/

like bro how is that even an insult "haha you're good at something what a loser haha"

>>11925873
Where's DylanTNGA when you need him?

>>11925816
Oh lol i thought the name referred to fingernails

>>11925816
>us quakers have too many good maps
Evidently not if none of them manage to stamp their name in your mind.

>>11925893
hope this helps

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mtGKX5UsqLx6KtLIwkBoRmi2FiToguw4s

trying to decide today if i feel like watching movies, pick up doom where i left off, or get ioquake3 with cpma configured and bash my head against 7 xaero bots, though that guy who posted a page with a bunch of qw bots is tempting if the bots from the '00s can move and time items correctly

any good sites for quake maps or should i just connect to an empty server and keep callvoting? i'm feeling pretty low energy (i live in the general area of the US wildfires so the sky has been black for like 6 days) so i'm not too sure about fps today

>>11925897
>campgrounds
>aerowalk
>blood run
>overkill

sometimes we don't even call them by their full filename we just call them t7 or dm6 instead of disembowled coagulatatory aneurysm or whatever the fuck that map is called

>>11925407
I just got here, but you sound like you have AIDS.

>>11925179
I'm aware of the problem, but it's not exactly like me or /doom/ have the means to do anything about payment processors wielding too much power.
People have been harassing them some, which is nice, they deserve it, but this is the kind of problem which requires substantial legislative and political action to resolve.

>>11925407
Feel free to post your Proxyon UV Max demo. Scrub.

>>11925929
there's a difference between manipulating an enemy AI that runs on a full retard algorithm and trying to duel a human opponent with equal weapons and movement to you. i respect both, but you're comparable pineapples to oak trees WOW my plant is better than yours

>>11924934
It really is, literally just shoot them.

>>11924765
I always thought E2 was spooky and cool.

>>11925935
>and trying to duel a human opponent with equal weapons and movement to you
no shotguns
no quad damage
rockets only
ziggurat vertigo

>>11925939
uhh yeah people only play with quad in ffa nice meme though and the final destination of qw is called povo hat (named after the dueler who made it) but unfortunately youtube as a search engine is so ass now i can't find any demos to show you

>>11925935
>i respect both
I'm unironically glad to hear that, some people with a chip on their shoulder about the lack of online multiplayer actually will not.
Anyway, I'm sorry I can't satisfy your multiplayer bloodthirst, I was just never very good at the online multiplayer (for these games, anyway), so I wouldn't be a very worthy opponent.

It would be cool to have more multiplayer stuff around here, but I think people find themselves only having enough time for the stuff we currently do.
You could try to do your own here, maybe a few people would be interested, but since you sound like you're very well versed in Quake deathmatching, you're gonna reach the inevitable dilemma of you either roflstomping all these noobs, which gets old quick for both you and them, or you trying to hold back, which probably isn't gonna be fun for you.

>>11923568
Yup, it's most likely Heretic + Hexen.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/temporal_unavailability_of_3_titles_on_the_store

>>11925961
I can't wait for a new wave of bitching about the puzzles on the seven portals.

>>11925968
Maybe they'll add quest log.

>>11925952
i'm just a b-tier dueler and was like 1500 elo in CA before i got too sick and quit for good

that to 50 to -2 blowout i do to you? i get it done to me right back by an A rank player and that happens to an S rank player who plays rapha, it's the nature of a competitive sport to be like that

unfortunately e-sports is just a flash in the pan i'm accepting the entire FPS scene is DEAD and all that's left is fightan twice a year and dead mobatrash

if you talked to me into they heydays of CPL and Dreamhack i thought i would be hanging out a sports bar watching the sunday afternoon bracket but it never mainfested, twitch took over and pushed everything to individual personality faggot streamers

>>11925970
They'll add a giant crazy taxi arrow to point you to the levers

>>11925970
They'd have to have something like that zscript-based "tell you where to go next" glowing arrow mod somebody did, since most of them lack the ability to do basic shit like look at automap names and put two and two together.

>>11925454
How about tomorrow at 18 UTC? I can setup a server

>>11926026
another desecration of a classic coming up

>>11926042
that's a euro time zone so i guess you're not setting up a US server

if this got done in NA i would recommend we play FFA and/or CA you do NOT want to play TDM or Duels with an experienced player

15v15 ra3map1 is probably a good handholding point if we can get enough players otherwise campgrounds will do (i don't think you want to play us in overkill)

we could also just gatecrash some poor guy's server instead of set up our own

i would like to play but my current keyboard is not gamer grade and the keys will probably jam if i try to flick a circle jump given how doom has been going

>>11926056
yeah i'm in easter yurop, so no chance?

>>11926062
>easter yurop
Watch out for the eggs, comrade.

>>11925440
No need to daily demo record! No need to play on UV! Play on I'm Too Young To Die if you want! Play with saves! Play continuously (no pistol starts)! Who cares! Let's play Sunlust.

>>11925254
>Summer of Sunlust
THURSDAY AUGUST 7 - MAP02: Down Through
I just realized I should have prepared for this yesterday. I'll post a screenshot as proof of completion later, I just wanted to post this early in the morning.

>>11926062
nope but sometimes i'm jealous i don't live in slavicville where people still play quake duels, unless you know some dusty irc server for pickups there's only pub CA in NA now

chicago would be a neutral ping ground for everyone if anyone could set up a server there, also consider removing the server links from the OP because when i checked those both pages have been cOmInG soON for months now

>>11926069
forgot pic

and for the record, since these are not challenges, they will run concurrently with the thread challenges

>>11926069
not him but i've actually considered that just to enjoy the aesthetics and midis, or play it like i did with elder scrolls and just quicksave every 5 seconds. the maps i beat on sunlust i was saving every time i got out of combat with over 100 HP+Armor

i've also considered playing through sunlust with idkfa and just being like FUCK ALL OF YOU RIGHT NOW with the bfg and stuff like i used to do on my 386 when i was a small boi

>>11926069
first failed attempt then successful attempt https://files.catbox.moe/2upfod.lmp
played with VoxelDoom for fun :)

>>11925873
You killed the arena genre by being pro tryhards and drove everyone away from the genre.

>>11926089
>VoxelDoom
Kek

>>11926094
no, CS and COD killed the arena fps genre because casuals want """"realism""""""

you can say halo killed arena fps if you want but halo is just an arena fps in slow motion, the fundamentals are exactly the same

i thought fortnite was gonna do something to reboot comp FPS but instead it just became some stupid costume shop for 6 year olds

>>11926026
Should this be in the news post?

>>11926121
Probably not since it's going to be announced within a couple hours.

>>11926128
True.

>>11926026
Where's Heretic II, god fucking dammit.

>>11926026
I didn't even know heretic and hexen were for sale. Which port did they ship with? Or just dosbox?

I heard that ACS decompilers were a thing, does anyone know where to find one? I'm curious to see how my code will decompile.

>>11926276
These early maps are competent maps, but forgettable compared to the later stuff. I don't even know what this theme is supposed to be. Techbase or castle?

>>11926216
DESCRIPT by R.A.Coward is everything you need for vanilla Hexen ACS:
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Descript
For (G)ZDoom use listACS:
https://github.com/alexey-lysiuk/ListACS

>>11914536
>>11914848
Hey, your requested feature is here >>11924067

Just got trough WolfRPG. Last played it around 2010 on a Sony Ericsson, so the whole clunky ass turret segment, as well as the level in the middle of it were new to me, but overall the IOS version seems identical to the j2me version. I like some of the humor, and the graphics are pure soul, but the game is rather easy.
What surprised me the most is that you can keep playing after the credits roll, and even travel back all the way to the start of the game.
Good way to catch missed secrets without having to replay every fight again.
Anyone have any good way to play the Doom RPGs on PC?

I like Duke Nukem

I hope the PS1 cutscenes are in the Hexen remaster.

>>11926332
Yeah, fun mods too

>>11926343
I'd like new campaigns for both.

>>11926347
Looks cool. What mod is that?

>>11926347
The William Gee megapack https://www.moddb.com/mods/wg-mega-pack/downloads/wgdm shitload of good maps, also comes with the option to play them all with Alien Armageddon.

I didn't think Heretic even had enough levels in 1995 to get the DZone treatment.

>>11926350
>>11926352
Whoops

>>11926348
If Quake 1, 2, and Doom are to go by, we'll probably get a new campaign by MachineGames.

>>11926353
>A great majority of the compiled levels were originally for Doom and Doom 2, now converted levels for Heretic with just minor changes, such as textures and monsters being replaced for their Heretic equivalents.
Lazy stuff, even less value than D-Zone. Would've been funny in retrospect if they called it H-Zone

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Magic_%26_Mayhem_for_Heretic

>>11926362
Nevermind, that was a thing too apparently pic rel.

>>11926353
>>11926362
H!Zone does exist though, and it had original episodes for Heretic (like Duke!Zone 2 and Q!Zone).