Thread 11942267

NEOGEO is cool but the CPSII is on a whole other level,

>>11942267 (OP)
If you think about it, both are distant cousins if you think about it. They share an M68K as the heart. (Plus a Z80 for the NeoGeo IIRC, making it essentially a souped-up Genesis. Not that I'm complaining, I think that's really cool!)

Love these high performing 2D only system.

>>11942267 (OP)
>but the CPSII is on a whole other level,

graphically yes
library wise, no

neo geo is pound for pound the greatest arcade board of all time and it is not even close. it had enough games to be a legitamate, half decent console

>>11943697
Neo Geo has too much shovelware

>>11943739
Like?

>>11943746
Mahjong, quiz and sports games, every fighting game not made by SNK, around 30% of SNK fighting games, every beat em up except Sengoku 3.

>>11942267 (OP)
It was, but good hardware means a good balance between power/features and general viability as a product, a fact that consistently baffles /vr/ and our neverending obsession with potential/what-if scenarios.

It was just the wrong sort of power at the wrong time, not even THAT much power to outweigh the limitations, and ultimately expensive and clunky for the Arcade vendors that essentially were the target audience.

>>11943767
That Gypsy girl, yes!

>>11943767
>replaceable game carts
>expensive and clunky

>>11943759
>every fighting game not made by SNK So Waku Waku 7, Rage of the Dragons and Matrimelee are showelware? And I think a lot of Neo Geos sports games are great fun, even though I don't like sports games in general.

>>11943759
>every fighting game not made by SNK

So Waku Waku 7, Rage of the Dragons and Matrimelee are showelware? And I think a lot of Neo Geo sports games are great fun, even though I don't usually like sports games.

>>11943795
Yea neo geo turf masters? Is most peoples best golf game of all time (it isn’t tiger woods 04 is but I digress). I seem to remember a good soccer game they put out but I could be imagining that.

>>11943818
Yeah, Neo Turf Masters is one of the few golf games I actually enjoy playing. Other golf games I've liked are mostly Pebble Beach Golf and Valora Valley Golf, but what appeals to me in those two is mainly their '90s FMV and campy vibe.

When it comes to soccer games, I think the Super Sidekicks series is pretty aesthetic and enjoyable arcade fun. I especially love the over-the-top goal animations and the ball kicking sound effects, which mostly remind me of fighting games
https://youtu.be/sBUa5xJrlyo

>>11942267 (OP)
>CPSII is on a whole other level
Yeah, the astral level once it's suicide battery dies

>>11943759
cps2 has a lot of shovelware as well proportionally

>>11943981
Much less

>>11944017
yeah i said proportionally, cps2 has a much smaller library, but its got its share of trash

I don't think Neo Geo has any showelware games. There are many mediocre and some downright bad games of course, but not really showelware

>>11943759
Meanwhile cps2 doesn't have much that isn't fighting games, beatemups and the ood puzzle game

>>11944235
Its got plenty of shooters that are of way higher quality than NEOGEO
19XX, 1944 Loop Master, Mars Matrix, Giga Wing, Dimahoo and ProGear

If we take the timeframe between 1989 and 2001:
Capcom released around 60 arcade games across 6 different hardware platforms.
Sega released over 150 arcade games on at least 9 hardware platforms.
SNK released about 140 games on just 2 hardware systems.

SNK had some strong years with KOF ‘97 and ‘98, and some good months with SamSho and Garou. But Sega and Capcom absolutely dominated the arcade scene for nearly two decades. Even Namco and Taito eventually gave up trying to catch up.

Sega and Capcom were printing money, releasing multiple games of exceptional quality and cutting-edge technology. Even their older titles were still profitable (Final Fight was in the top 10 in 1993 on some months).

Capcom was so confident they charged around ¥80,000 for a single new B-board exchange (2X or Dungeons & Dragons). A brand-new CPS2 A+B set was priced around ¥170,000 ¥200,000.
Sega was selling theirs for roughly double that but for good reasons.

For SNK to make the same money, they had to sell five or six of their most expensive MVS games. They crashed and burned once they tried to create their own 3D hardware to compete with Sega (not even Capcom was reckless enough to do that). At the same time, Sega released a “better MVS,” capable of everything at the highest resolution for the lowest cost

Naomi kit was ¥80,000 ¥100,000, and a complete kit cost about the same as a CPS2 set.

In the end, SNK had good games and a couple of strong licenses, but they lacked the technology, quality, and originality of Capcom and Sega. Most of their catalog was just “good enough” to play while waiting for the big releases.

>>11942267 (OP)
>you have to chose
>otherwise how will you make it part of your personality
I don't know any serious people who choose neo geo over Capcom or vice versa.

>>11943697
Eh, the only thing Neo Geo has going for it is run n gun games. CPS2 has better shmups and beat em ups in its library. Fighters is debatable I guess.