Thread 12038234

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12030486

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

HOT POTATO, aka Deep /vr/ied Potato
Game : Doom 2, MBF21 | Deadline : HOTPOTATO99.wad
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/12030515
Latest build: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/12036637

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RC4: https://files.catbox.moe/szis5j.7z
RC5 pending.

=== NEWS ===
[9-17] AMC Squad Episode 5 released
https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc/news/amc-squad-episode-5-release

[9-17] DBP76: Stagnant Weather is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4139

[9-16] Comic Doom 96 updated to V4
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/146746

[9-13] Somewhere in Hell released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/somewhere-in-hell

[9-12] Call of the Void released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-call-of-the-void/

[9-11] Esselfortium releases full texture sets for for BTSX E1 & E2 for use
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155111/

[9-10] Vertex Relocation finally completed!
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155093

[9-10] Official DBP WADs repository
https://archive.org/details/dbp-wad-archive

[9-07] Perdition's Gate: Resurgence, released
https://doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21753

[9-03] Operation Deadbolt released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/155013

[9-02] Ashes 2063, GMDX and RealRTCW, available on GOG Mods platform

[9-01] TNT2: Devilution RC1 gains MAP26 + 3 more
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/104882

[8-30] Helion Engine v0.9.8.0 update
https://github.com/Helion-Engine/Helion/releases/latest

[8-27] Herexen, vanilla crossover mod for Doom
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154886

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

Copying the last HOTPOTATO for the sake of continuity:

>>12036637
HOTPOTATO14.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/1606wm.zip
Decorated RL fight, added slime pits.
>Reply to this post if you want to "lock" the wad.
>Do any map modifications, add any lumps, etc.
>Post the new wad with incremented version number

>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<

Record a UV-max run of Atmospheric Extinction - Map 16, by Kevin "Velvetic" Martins. The complevel is 9 (boom).
Reply to this post with your demo & time.

Current Record + Wad Download:
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/vel_aex?level=Map+07

Example demo in 6:00:
https://files.catbox.moe/lnixul.lmp

Previous thread WinRar: Scythe 2 - Map 16 in 0:49! >>12032483

Some anon(s) were requesting a Haloween map, but I thought it was too early for that, so here's something vaguely autumn themed instead. This wad doesn't get talked about much, I think its a good example of how to use otex well.

>>12038239
lock

>>12038246
Whoops, meant to say map 07, not 16. You get it.

>>12038239
>>12038251
HOTPOTATO15.wad : https://files.catbox.moe/rg7u9o.zip

>did a bunch of texture adjustment all over the place to soothe my tism
>did just simpler adjustment to this room because I didn't wanna potentially disrupt the gimmick (which I like and think is cool)
>did some lighting tweaking in that cool new room with the ceiling crescent so it matches the other outdoor lighting
>added a launcher with 3 rockets in the first secret because otherwise it didn't feel like the secret was even remotely worth the consequences (feel free to undo)
>did like, the shittiest ENDOOM imaginable, feel free to do better if any of you want

Don't have a ton more time to do more potatoing today, but maybe a bit. It's actually a lot of fun to just do a casual little mapjam like this with you guys.

Passing on this potato!

>>12038484
>source kinda port
>monster god mean

>>12038431
Locking

>>12038548
Hell yeah!

>>12038234 (OP)
>https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
> mom I did it again award
Once again, the new link with updated doom pic and reordered infographics is: https://imgur.com/a/wB0psIa

>>12038579
Stop with this shit. Since even the proper update was abandoned because of the shitstorm it caused, there's no need to make this fake update anymore. Maybe better thing would be to remove infographs from op since they are all out of date, won't be properly updated, and are cause of the spam.

T. One of guys who was making the proper update but abandoned it, because of the shitstorm

Have a DOOMscrolling game, /vr/.

https://gisnep.com/doomscroll/

Comments by the guy who made it:
https://ironicsans.ghost.io/doomscrolling-the-game/

>>12038431
>>12038548
HOTPOTATO16.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/j276cq.WAD
-Decoupled >>12036008's monster from the flesh pillar. Now it can be used in other parts of the map without the risk of softlocking.
-Flip the switch linedef on the super shotgun platform so it actually animates.
-Added in a new secret. See if you can find it without opening it in a map editor.

>>12038586
He'll never quit.

>>12038586
> T. One of guys who was making the proper update but abandoned it, because of the shitstorm
Welcome to the club bud. But you're making wrong conclusions, lemme explain.
> Since even the proper update was abandoned because of the shitstorm it caused,
No, the "proper" update was abandoned for exactly one (1) specific reason: the anti-game faggot got under Pete's skin. And the more I learn about this fuck from other anons telling what he was like before the megaman thing the more I recognize the same patterns.
Remember how he kept spamming "durr including megaman means giving to a schizo"? Well he was accusing us of what he's been doing for years. Being an incessant schizo trying to scare people away from contributing to the community.
And we must not give in to his faggotry, especially for this short stint that he doesn't have a pocket janny/mod to cover his asshole.
So if he doesn't want to see megaman and NERF there (which is the current list of shit he's against for no real reason, it'll only keep growing) - those are precisely the games we must add to draw a clear line separating this community from his poisonous fuckery.

Is it me, or have they tweaked the Quake 2 remaster berserkers. They no longer seem to spam that utterly ridiculous WORLD STAR slam thing.

>>12038614
>We must add these two very specific mods to stick it to the schizo!
Man, are you really that desperate to get your mods included, Pete?

>>12038586
> Maybe better thing would be to remove infographs from op since they are all out of date, won't be properly updated, and are cause of the spam.
yeah lets do exactly what the troll wants. you know what else we could do? not have any saved shit in OP at all. so much of it is outdated anyway lol.
and you know what else? not work on any projects. he's the faggot who will always hate on them and try to sabotage them so if there's so much spam and shit flinging (because of one faggot) - why even bother durr?
oh maybe because we have a community and some cunt troll shouldn't determine what we do and don't do?

>>12038629
Aaaand here he is. Always with some new retarded conspiracy theory. Notice how he still pretends like Pete and I are the same person. He doesn't give a fuck about truth, he's here to shit this place up and then use the "megaman autist" (and now Pete) as a scapegoat.
Except we now know that you've been shitting this place up long before the first mention of megaman wad being added to the pic

Gentlemen. Call of the Void has left me hungry for some more Quake 2. I've already played the remaster stuff and the 25th anniversary unit with those mean as hell BFG gladiators. What other mods and mapsets would you recommend to sate my need to chew up Strogg?

>>12037802
>Is anyone interested in a melee monster that instead of moving normally, stacks movement sprites on a single frame so it gets all jumpy?
Just add it in, dude. The entire point of the Hot Potato project is to continually add to the wad and build upon what came before.
If you make a new monster, someone else might come along and make use of it later down the line.

>>12038484
>Stroggified ass
Well if that's how you refer to iron maidens then no wonder Call of the Machine didn't include them.

>>12038614
Well if you are doing it, you better do it properly. Adding just 3 wads is retarded. Better add all those wads that other anons suggested, otherwise you are only doing this for yourself, not for the community. There's the unfinished photoshop file with layers and all the suggested wad/mod lists in archived threads. I won't be trying the update ever myself, to stay out of all the stress and villainification, to not to start more shitstorms either. So it do it properly or don't do it at all and let it be.

And btw I was never Pete, just the Duke anon. I don't think the british fuck has never been here.

>>12038637
Bold of you to assume that I'm your boogeyman and not some rando who couldn't help but notice that you specifically called out those two mods to be included for the umpteenth time.
You know, as if you didn't have a long-ass history of trying to force MM in the infographic.

Remember to not reply to him.
Do not give him attention.

>>12038484
>shamblers modding shamber balance
>non-retro doom constantly
>q2 better
>remember saying hate recently

>>12038602
>AI generated game
gay.

>>12038586
>Maybe better thing would be to remove infographs from op since they are all out of date, won't be properly updated, and are cause of the spam.
"Properly updated" is the big thing, and after the response I received to https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12015409#p12021359 I don't trust it will happen from the current pushers. Removing it from the OP is an idea but then that would just leave us with >>12038579 reposting it anyways.
>>12038625
They made them less eager to jumpstomp, and they also made it so you don't get hit by that jumpstomp if your feet are off the ground.
>>12038639
A few ideas:
>PSX Mod for the remaster if you haven't played it yet, same with the jams
>Citadel if you're okay with older ports
>Sonic Mayhem is still a personal favorite
If you're fine with Yamagi or KnightmareQ2 I have a lot I can recommend.

>>12038629
>>12038650
If he was me aka Duke anon which was claimed to be the Pete last time, I would do the update properly like I was doing, but like I said last time I wouldn't touch the infograph even with a dead hobo's penis anymore. Also I'm very much against the shitty fake infograph.

>>12038648
As is, it already adds 2 other wads I don't care about, but many people do.
I'm not even opposed to the idea of including more wads eventually. But here's the problem. Why would I put it more work if either this one fuck with too much time on his hands or a number of people keep creating threads with the old link?
We already had like 5 fucking people do a decent update and then their work ends up not being used because this faggot makes sure to create the thread before anybody else with the old link (or maybe some clueless fucks are playing into his hands naively).
So the first condition *has* to be the link in OP being updated *right now* so that I know that there's even a reason for me to put more work in to add more wads to that pic. And as new versions get released (on which I'll continue to get feedback before adding them just like with the current one) - the doom pic will be changed in the link.
But to do a bunch of work only for the faggot to come up with 100000 retarded reasons it's not legitimate and shouldn't be included - nope.
So the first step is actually switching to the new fucking link. It may even motivate somebody else to do their version and then we'll pick the best one.

>>12038658
If you are not doing the proper update, just stop forcing the unfinished fake-update. All this makes the shitstorms start again, and retards here start again claiming that you and I are ackshually the same person even though having completely different opinions. Or maybe we are the same person, and I'm just schizo, huh.

>>12038650
Because those mods are the current fixation of the anti-game fuck. How hard is that to understand? In the past it used to be half-life, quake and in general any non-doom game.
A bunch of other wads he hated too. People ignored him then (at least ultimately) and should keep ignoring him/you now.

>>12038659
>Also I'm very much against the shitty fake infograph.
How is it fake exactly? It's literally the same infograph + 3 other wads people want there.
You're fucking weird dude. Unless it's a false flag attempt

>>12038663
I never cared about those 2 wads anymore than the 98 other wads I was adding. Shit like this make me want to start update just out of spite again, but no. Just stop this shit.

>>12038668
>All this makes the shitstorms start again, and retards here start again claiming that you and I are ackshually the same person even though having completely different opinions.
Yeah because there's a troll in this general. But I don't get why you think we should pander to his autism?
So as long as he's willing to samefag up some shit posts - you will always fold? Not a great strategy innit?

>>12038676
It's insane to add 3 old wads, yet not new popular wads or our own wads. That makes it a fake update. It ignores the important things to add not so important small thing.

>>12038647
Machine Games still likes stroggified ass, just not the kind you're expecting.

>Yet another shit storm
Well, see you guys in a few hours.

>>12038681
We are not pandering to anyone's autism. If you want infograph updated, just let it be for a while. Right now is not the right moment for it. There's been too shitstorms surrounding it. Just let all the drama die out. Focus on other things. I'm focusing the Duke project myself, and if you want to contribute to this community maybe you can make a one map for it.

>>12038607
Locking, got an idea or two.

>>12038690
Nah. This is nothing. I'm just trying to make the guy calm with the infograph.

>>12038579
>>12038614
>>12038634
Fuck yourself, Megashitter.

>>12038707
You aren't better than him, because those kind of comments make him only spam more. Just ignore him.

>>12038682
It "ignores" most things by the virtue of adding only 3. Still doesn't make it "fake". Look up what that word means.
But again, I'll add all the main wads and definitely vr ones after we normalize using the updated link and thus there's a path forward with the infographic.

>>12038716
>Still doesn't make it "fake". Look up what that word means.
Might make sense if "fake" means "disingenuous". I personally wouldn't use the word "fake" either, but regardless the big thing is that Brutal Doom is a gameplay mod yet it's plugged in with total conversions.

>>12038716
You can add them now, if you are actually adding them. It would increase the changes for update to get added. Don't lie and don't try to make this a hostage situation. Or then just don't. I mean, come on this must not such a big deal. Mm and nerf got their cacowards, so it's not like they didn't get recognization. You can play them, even discuss them in normal not shitstorm way. Just calm down, let this be.

>>12038720
Disingenuous does sound better than fake in this context. I'm gonna use that from now on.

https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11948728/#11953641
Reminder that >>12038579's infographic is one that he has been pushing for over a month, before the whole "anti-game faggot" idea had even cropped up, so the idea that he's doing this to fight against some schizo who seems to be targeting only him is just a false flag.
>"durrr you're the anti-game faggot!"
No, I'm just someone who is tired of you derailing the threads because you want to tout your infographic as the "real" and "updated" version and then claiming that any and all criticism leveled against both it and you are all the work of a single anon who has a bizarre vendetta against retro shooters and retro shooter mods.

Since I had nothing better to do and because I liked the >>12030564 idea (even though git is shit for binary file changes, i.e. 99% of lumps), I compiled all the HOTPOTATO progress so far into a single git repo with each new version as a separate commit.
If it will do no harm I can post it here, it's a bit better than going through all the old posts.

>>12038713
I'd love to, but other people are earnestly engaging when they should ignore him too.

>>12038716
>after we normalize using the updated link

Oh good, so never.

I have some cool ideas for hotpotato but I need to learn how do seamless teleports work like dropping down the drain in evi2 map01 or the lift to the sewers epic.wad map02

>>12038695
> he still doesn't get it
I don't know how to put in any simpler: there's one (1) person creating the shitstorms and he does it ANY TIME somebody tries to contribute something. Lately it's been the infographic. When somebody starts any project like Halloween one - he'll be shitting on random levels that are produced.
I ask you again: do you propose we just become captives to one faggot and not do anything ever because of le hecking shitstorms? Or do we maybe unite and tell him to fuck off and stop getting in the way?

>>12038728
>You can add them now, if you are actually adding them.
They are already added as is. This last version has been out for months but the antidoom schizo keeps using the old link because he loves the shit talking.
> It would increase the changes for update to get added.
If we let the troll dictate what happens - the chances are always zero. It takes proactive effort on our part which in this case just means simply making threads with the new link and ignoring his bullshit.

>>12038720
>>12038731
It's not, stop playing into schizo's rhetoric. I am the third person now who made a genuine effort to make an update that people genuinely agreed on (and they did, check the archive) and the third person to be fucked over by the anti-doom cunt.
If it was "fake" it would just be adding megaman and nothing else and not asking for feedback like the original megaman guy did.
But in the recent months 3 people including me made a genuine effort and actually asked people and got a massive ok on the update.
So fuck off with your retarded "durr it's fake", go check the archive and stfu.

>>12038735
Retard you've already been called out by a ton of people, everybody knows that:
1. You are a samefag
2. You've been derailing and shitting up threads way before megaman
3. You had been pocketed by a janny who erased and banned everybody but you which already makes you an obvious suspect number one of any bullshit

>>12038742
> other people

>>12038786
Dude, we live in a jannyless universe.

>>12038795
Yes, only for roughly 2 months or so. Before that literally everybody would be banned and erased around that faggot, but not him even though he would usually start every flame war and violate the rules constantly

>>12038786
I fucking called it.
>>12038735
>"durrr you're the anti-game faggot!"
No, I'm not. I know that there's nothing I can say or do to convince you otherwise because you have it in your head that I'm your boogeyman, so anything I say will just be ignored. You have such a deeply rooted victim complex that you refuse to even entertain the idea that the people responding to you might actually be different people who are just tired of your shit.
I'm not gonna reply to you anymore. You can sit there and claim that I'm the anti-game faggot all you want, I don't care.

>>12038735
And he's also been at this for over a year.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11290838/#11300108

>>12038756
>>12038764
>>12038773
>>12038786
>>12038791
You know you don't have to make multiple posts and you can just reply all in the same one, right? Oh but you can't pretend to be multiple people that way huh. Also you don't even know what you're laughing at. You're really fucking stupid. I was talking about Douk-anon, talking to you like you're a reasonable person.

>>12038797
If you think anyone's been protected back then you're a bigger idiot than him.

>>12038797
Focus on the moment, not the past. This latest flame war started because of this infograph bullshit. Next time just let this shit stay buried. Since we have no jannies now, we must now think with our brains. This stupid shit will just kill /vr/, so better stop it.

>>12038237
>HOT POTATO, aka Deep /vr/ied Potato

>my name suggestion actually got used

And now, I am officially immortal!

>>12038807
What about me? While I was my part in trying to calm the mm guy down, I missed this one.

T. Douk-anon

>>12038825
Your mistake was engaging with the autist and trying to calm him down/appease him.

>>12038821
Do you have inside you blood of kings?

>>12038826
SHITTY POSTING ROBOT
MEGA MAN
POSTING TO TROLL THE THREAD

>>12038827
Yeaa, you are right on that one. I just get summoned to the conversation when some anon or anons always keep getting me mixed up with that guy. I shouldn't partake though.

>>12038832
Yeah! Yeah! I have no rival, no man can be my equal!

>>12038720
> Brutal Doom is a gameplay mod yet it's plugged in with total conversions
This is proof enough that it’s in there only to make it seem like an organic update when in fact it’s a poorly disguised attempt to shove this autist’s favourite mod
>>12038791
Your samefagging is transparent and very sad if you think about it - it only serves to alienate people and reduce chances of the mod appearing in the infographic
For the love of god leave and stop shitting up the general, if you leave now and wait for the real update it might just be there

>>12038642
Fair enough, I'll write code for it tomorrow and maybe add a room to it to fight in.

>>12038841
TAKE ME TO THE FUTURE OF YOU ALL!
(We should probably stop here. Don't wanna spam the thread.)

>>12038861
Yeah, you can only make a bit last so long. A Doom version of the Queen II album cover would be funny, has that ever been done before?

>>12038237
>Game : Doom 2, MBF21 | Deadline : HOTPOTATO99.wad
I wanted to clarify something on being unable to delete
Would I be allowed to, say, demolish part of this wall to add a new door?

>>12038874
Also is there a decohack source for the dehacked lump? Because I won't be able to add custom stuff otherwise, since there can be only one dehacked patch.

>>12038805
How ironic you say that. But wasn't it you who keeps insisting "durr it's all one guy". So which is it? Do both sides have the victim complex?

>>12038607
The anon who added the new monster (and the one who added the decorations too I guess) didn't include the Decohack file so I haven't been able to add this chaingun replaecment to the WAD proper. Let's make sure we're including the Decohack file if we use that sort of thing, anons - otherwise adding stuff will get difficult later.

The gun could use a little more polish on the recoil frames, but for what it's worth, this is already pretty fun to use and is much nicer than the old chaingun. Damage, spread and ROF all remain the same.

ZIP has both the latest HOTPOTATO.wad as well as the chaingun replacement with its relevant assets. There have been no changes to the map.
>https://files.catbox.moe/fvmq7e.zip

>Reply to this post if you want to "lock" the wad.
>Do any map modifications, add any lumps, etc.
>Post the new wad with incremented version number

>>12038874
Yes, you just can't delete that little section entirely. You can and should be transformative.

>>12038878
As per >>12038891, no, it doesn't seem that way. I think I should have jumped in when the new monster was added, as well as got on the case of the anon who included the LoR decoration sprites but timezones are a bitch.

>>12038807
I wasn't pretending to be different people fucko, those posts are mine and some of them got deleted now.
How mysterious.
And Douk anon also doesn't deserve this bullshit.
We may be entering another dark era of autism heavy moderation. This may be my last post here, I was already warned.
For some reason it's dangerous to call out this one shit poster even though there are 0 consequences for talking infinite shit about the "mega man autist". How curious.
We may be back to square 1.

>>12038898
You won't leave.

>>12038809
not him but that fuck 100% was being protected and maybe is still. I'm currently adding new screenshots to the evidence link and you need to be a retard to not clearly see that he had/has a pocket janny

>>12038815
No, the spammer and his guardian angel mods will kill vr. That's what we need to prevent

>>12038904
You're retarded.

>>12038878
>>12038891
>>12038896
Hey, I'm the guy who ported over the LoR decor. I didn't have Decohack set up and basically just copied everything over through Whacked.
Sorry about that. If I had known it would become a problem, I would've had it set up.

>>12038909
It's alright, decorations are real easy to code. It's monsters and guns that are difficult.

Since we may be back to iron fist one-sided rule breaking turbo autismo moderation, I'll switch to discussing doom only.
Let's put this bs behind at least for now and post our favorite screenshots.
Here's mine.
It may be a bit outdated but who knows, maybe it'll become relevant again soon so you may save it just in case

>>12038639
Citadel is pretty great. You'll need Yamagi Q2 to play it but its worth it. It does use a few too many of those bullshit ceiling turrets tho.

>>12038898
>And Douk anon also doesn't deserve this bullshit.
You mean Peter Lawrence aka as (You)?

>>12038924
> Trolling outside of b
Let's just see if he's gonna get banned as he should for violating the rules or as always will keep posting with everybody else being silenced.

>>12038914
>XCUcFaK
Thanks, forgot what it was

>>12038914
He doesn't have dementia, he is just an autistic fuck who abuses his family and shitstirs here. We would be better off without him.

>>12038941
Even if true, doesn't change the fact that he was persecuted against. Two things could be true. And I don't doubt all of the shit that was pulled against him as a power play

>>12038942
It's not persecution. His autistic meltdowns pull the heat down on himself. I have more respect for the Sega System spammer because at least that cunt is honest about what he's doing and doesn't pretend he's innocent.
Also I don't think there's anyone dumb enough here to defend him.

>>12038697
>>12038891
are you same anon? Is this the latest hotpotato?
>https://files.catbox.moe/fvmq7e.zip

>>12038898
>This may be my last post here

That'd be nice.

>>12038898
>my last post here
Please stick to your word.

>>12038639
I'm recommending The Citadel too. It's that good. A perfect blend of Reckoning and Ground Zero content (and some new), much more so than Call Of The Machine. I'm also seconding Sonic Mayhem. Very high quality unit.

Then there's Zaero and Oblivion. Great commercial yet not official expansions.

All map-center jams are high quality. Play em.

Other suggestions (all work on yamagi unless stated):
>Earth & Earth 2
Really nice classic map packs set on Earth
>Loki's Missions: Escape
Nice unit with one new weapon and few new guards types
>The Armageddon Device & Window Of Retalition
Old map sets with lot of new strogg variants to blast
>Awakening
Gameplay mod that comes with 3 maps. Gives you completely new arsenal including Jackhammer, Uzi and Flamethrower.
>Die Hard
Map set with fun overpowered arsenal including super nailgun and lightning gun from Q1
>Deus Ex Machina
Precursor to The Citadel from the same guy
>Slight Mechanical Destruction
This has been praised everywhere but I haven't played it yet. Requires kmq2.
>Alea Iacta Est
Map pack for remaster. Almost slaughter style gameplay.

Then I welcome you to wait for Quake 2+2 and Return To Perdition with rest of us. These are gonna be gud.

>>12038960
>>12038963
> heh if I put an extra space in one of my posts they surely would think it's two different people ;)

>>12038951
Yes, and yes. The map's up for grabs.

Didn't notice the new thread...

>>12037776
It was a reference to pic related that went over the heads of some hysterical types.
It was a boss that when she died her tits fell out of her shirt. It was a joke literally from a nazi sexploitation film.

Anyway, the old version is still out there floating around on the internet.

>>12038898
Thanks mate, even though you don't have to defend me, because this leads us to get mixed up again like here:

>>12038924
Follow the discussion. I wanted him to stop with this infograph too. I'm not enjoying this shitstorm either or even agreeing with him, you stupid bastard. Just stop pulling me back to this shit, ok. Because it doesn't concern me.

For the one more time:
>i never cared about mm and nerf more than other suggestions and was ready to take them out from the now cancelled infograph for peace
>i have abandoned the infograph more than week ago, and don't even want to update it because it leads to shitstorm, i don't want to take it part in, and i don't care who does it or does anyone do it at all, i just wanted mm guy to stop spamming
>only reason i ever started my infograph update, was to update source port info and to include vr projects, i just decided to add all wad suggestions and mm and nerf happened to be part of them like sunlust, moonman etc
>i not encouraging mm guy with this spam, but instead want him to give up with the whole infograph stuff, because it floods the whole general
>i am not with or against anyone in this fight, yet i'm still getting constantly referenced by multiple people so i'm forced to make my own posts about this
>only project i'm focusing now is Duke
>i am not pete, mm anon, xaser, ribbiks or adolf hitler
If you have any other questions or misunderstandings, just ask instead of making stuff up.

Also I don't think (real) Pete has never posted on /vr/?

Regards, the very tired Duke anon

>>12039035
>I am deeply upset at the accusation that I am a certain person, so I will devote an entire meltdown to this accusation.
Peter.............

>>12039035
>i am not adolf hitler
Sure you aren't, Adolf.

>>12039039
I'm sorry Peter fans

>>12039054
holy fuck
it really is him

>>12039054
Somehow Peter will come up with another copium overdose realization and claim there is a global cabal hellbent on disrupting his work from being included in the OP.

>>12039054
>>12039060
>>12039067
You're not fooling anyone. Stop.

>>12039054
Maybe the real anti-megaman schizos were the everyday posters in the general.

>>12039074
> posters

>>12039054
wait. so now this retard is harassing people outside of 4chan and somehow an obvious reaction of "wtf? fuck off retard" he's trying to spin as an epic win and proof of his schizo theory? Lowest IQ troll we've had in this general

>>12038912
Monsters probably won't be that hard if we can identify their stats and they aren't completely wacko (I haven't checked on the map yet)

>>12039054
Does Discord have some mechanic for
>arrows
that makes inserting spaces after them common on it? I've seen it over on /a/, too, and I'm wondering where it comes from.

>>12038891
>>12038983
locking, for several hours

>>12039084
This reminds me of the time me and some other students were working in the school store and then there happened to be a lockdown because of a reported shooting in the area. After about 3 minutes one person was like "Well I don't know how long we will be in here. Might as well grab something to drink" and it just went to chaos. We were locked down for probably half an hour and each person ate and drank $30 worth of stuff. We ended up lifting one of those tiles and throwing all the wrappers and bottles as far as we could. It was a real breakfast club moment of everyone from different cliques coming together

>>12039089
It makes things more readable. Simple as. Just like le hecking reddit double spaces

>>12039095
Fantastic, godspeed. Good thing I'm stuck in meido hell now.

The sad thing is, no matter how bad this place is right now, /v/ makes this look civil.

>>12039158
Special interests attract special people, as a friend said. The more niche something is, the worse are the social skills of the retards who like it.

>>12039158
contemporary /v/ is literally random + video games
at the very least /v/ doesn't have devoted schizophrenics that devote their life to disinformation gayops targeted at specific generals, see any high pph /vg/ general and this thread itself

>>12038484
>given extra demons

>>12039174
These threads have turned into a bigger and more persistent drama mill than even /srg/ was, and it was fucking celebrated when that shit stopped getting threads.

>>12039039
Of course I am upset. Wouldn't you be in my situation? Duke Project is tied to my "name" despite the only "name" you know is a Duke anon. Yet because of conspiracies, I'm claimed to be the same guy as mm guy even thought we don't agree on anything. Every stupid shit he constantly does is now tied to me, because apparently we both are accused to be "Peter". And thus all stupid shit he does affects my and other's work on Duke Project, because this will lead the project to be judged unfairly. It will be seen as mm guy's project, (even though he is not even making a single map for it), and the project's name gets stained because of that.

Week ago when I had my meltdown, (this is not a close of it), I abandoned the Duke Project, because of the fear that I explained above. Yet the mappers convinced me to keep on going, and nobody else was ready to take the charge of this project. So I continued again, and not even in shadows. Just so that mappers can get their work done and so that this project gets released on jan.

But even though I'm trying not to stir shit and trying to stay out of drama, I'm constantly referenced as same guy as mm guy. All of this puts me to shitty position, because of these accutisations, the project would be better without me. It wouldn't be judged unfairly as mm guy's project. Howerer nobody else is taking the charge of Duke project, so I have to continue. I can't fail these mappers. I promised them.

So in short, I'm willing to step down, if another project leader rises, but if not, I'm making sure that this gets released. But if you are not wanting to take the charge of Duke project, don't accuse me of shit I have not done. You are only shitting on Duke by doing that.

What are some good Hexen maps to play, other than Shadows of Chronos?

>>12039206
Didn't read all that. If you aren't genuinely retarded or autistic the best thing to do would be to ignore it. Posting diatribes and meltdowns just makes people more interested in making fun out of you.

>>12039206
All you have to do to not be accused of being megafaggot is to stop trying to defend megafaggot and making retarded meltdown posts every time someone replies to you. It is literally that simple.

>>12039209
Curse of the Lost Gods.

>>12039174
>at the very least /v/ doesn't have devoted schizophrenics that devote their life to disinformation gayops targeted at specific generals
/v/ currently has 30+ threads where one guy goes on campaigns against people who play games he doesn't like. Try having a Morrowind thread on /v/ without a certain lunatic samefagging endlessly to destroy the thread in an attempt to make it look like everyone has an encyclopedic knowledge as to why the game is bad. 4chan as a whole attracts people in dire need of mental health professionals.

>>12039214
>>12039218
Peter will never relent about megaman because of his involvement. Don't try to reason

>>12039223
I've seen that autismo you're talking about here at /vr/ too.

>>12039223
You've got me there. There is that guy who has somehow gone on an eternal crusade against morrowind of all games

>>12039214
I don't care about people making fun of me. It's all good. People should be able joke. But I'm not talking about jokes, but real accusitations like ones which happened week ago. I tried to joke with them first too, but then that got the "jokers" seething, so I realized it was not joking. I just don't other anons who mapped for this project to get accused too.

>>12039218
But funny thing is that I have NEVER defended him. Atm I've been quite against him, because he started the retarded spam and dragged me to this again. As you can see, not defending him does not help at all, I'm still getting accused of being him. All I ask of all of you fags, is not trying tie me into some retarded conspiracies and not keep dragging me into this shit.

Megasissy... Peter...
Everyone is laughing at you, you can't keep this charade up

>>12039231
But when have I ever even cared for the megaman? This is what I mean by these retarded accusitations. I never cared about that, just took it as a suggestion with +20 other suggestions and was ready to lose it as soon as shitstorm started, but yet I'm getting continually accused.

>>12039243
>gets told to stop replying like a retard
>keeps replying like a retard
You either really are the guy or you're so dumb that it doesn't even matter.

>>12037802
>stacks movement sprites on a single frame so it gets all jumpy
curious about what you mean by that

Lol even if every anon agreed on an infog, the dude that bakes new threads (who might as well be a janny or protected by them) won't use the agreed link/image just so the shitstorm doesn't end.

>>12039295
Roughly this. Although now that I actually put it in the action, I'm significantly less enthused about this.

Potatobros, need help. How do I swap/stop midi after player crosses a linedef?

>>12039354
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MUSINFO

I never used it, but here's the idea.

>>12038656
cry about it
ai rules

I'm stopping leading the Duke It Out In /vr/. I'm not doing this out of spite.

1. Like I said I fear the project will be judged unfairly, if I continue leading. /vr/ has already decided that I'm also mm guy and Peter, no matter what I say. By quitting, the project will not be unfairly judged by the shit that I or what 2 of these guys do. This is the primary reason why I even bother announcing this.

2. It's just hard to get constantly insulted and accused of the shit that I don't even do. Even as I have not to engaged, it still goes on. Not good for mental health, and I don't want to act like retarded this stress is causing me to. Too old for this shit, like Duke said.

3. Mapping is stressful job. Combined with constant negative reactions, this is not worth it. Like why the hell, would I use bunch of hours on my free time to make content for bunch of ungrateful children that constantly harrass me instead of spending time with my own kids that I actually like.

I'm sorry for all the mappers, but I'm sure you have will and skills compile this into one episode. It's not hard thing, and slade works for grp files just as with works with wads. I'm not just quitting this project but /vr/ too, so replying is unnecessary. I will not be browsing. I browsed everything thus far to not miss any submissions, but now I don't have to so.

>Operation Wasteland
I'm ashamed to admit I had to run past the Tank boss at the end. It was a little too unfair, spawning medics and more gladiators the moment you start doing well and even reviving the support tank. I don't know where you'd find the ammo for this.

>>12039350
this is ultra cool

>>12039378
Skill setting?

>>12039390
Medium. I remember Gman's review of the remaster and he ended it by asking it CotM was even playtested. For the most part I like it, but there are a few levels where it feels like someone really wanted to prove Quake 2's combat could have a pulse and they went a bit too far. Maybe it's just me though.

>>12039358
Thanks, that works

>>12039378
I remember the boss at the end of this had medics who could revive each other and the boss. What a fucking terrible idea.

>>12039384
I imagined it to be more interesting. I'll drop the code here, if someone feels like finishing it (Needs timing tuning, possibly other adjustments) and import sounds. https://files.catbox.moe/lv2xc4.wad

>>12038237
>stagnant weather
>opening stage gives you a plasma gun and (minus secrets) nothing else
I love when they do this, but I've only seen it a couple times personally. Good gun out the gate but you've gotta be careful with the ammo

>>12039402
There's parts that get hairy but Dimension of the Past for Q1 still gave me a harder time, I still have to "abuse" the free shotgun ammo the last few times I replayed it. Both of the newer "Machine" episodes felt safer and more comfortable to play.

>>12039350
I know some people call this "after images." I think Dragon ball called it that.

>>12038891
>>12039095
HOTPOTATO18.WAD + two files previous anon added: https://files.catbox.moe/fgcy5w.zip

Added sewers accessible from a fountain. Right now they're just a square room. I think they should be a big area on their own in the future. You should do some fights and mb find a key to unlock a sewage pipe.

Added sewage pipe that leads to outdoor area. Also a fight here should be more interesting than just two cybers. Something worthy of a plasma gun.

Added backtracking cave to the "facility" entrance. You can also take a peek into the outdoors area by finding anon's secret >>12038607 (which is pretty difficult imo) but the bars will be locked.

Anyone is welcome to expand these areas, i'm a pretty shit mapper, this is my first map with monsters lol :) Be more bold and add more rooms otherwise it will be me

>>12039491
oh and forgot to add. Currently the lake uses zokumbsp's rotated wall trick (special 1080 parameter 180) to create infinite horizon. You need to run it through zokumbsp for the effect to work (at least #99 anon should). Besides, it doesn't work on some ports (dsda). I think it's better to just make the lake enclosed so you don't need this.

>>12039491
>It is only now that I'm finding out I forgot to mark my secret
Well, shit.

>>12039515
Now you don't have to because you will visit this place inevitably after the outdoor area. It's just a way to get bfg prematurely.

>>12038234 (OP)
>potatodemon
Not Cacaodemon? Its right there

>>12039214
> people
Person. The anti-doom schizo troll. Aka (you)

>>12039218
> just don't do defend these people I'm targeting with my samefagging and I promise not samefag tee-hee
No, fuck off.

>>12039239
No shit it's probably the same guy trolling the Duke anon right now, aka the anti-megaman faggot aka anti-nerf faggot aka anti-doom faggot aka anti-game faggot.
They are always essentially blackpill and try to create destruction

>>12039243
> the dook man keeps being against mega man people in hope of getting approval from the anti-game schizo who keeps shitting on him
this is seriously some new level of pathetic
I guess if mega man bros want the douk leader on their side they just need to shit on him as opposed to talking to him with respect like they have been

>>12039243
>because he started the retarded spam and dragged me to this again
Wtf? Where have I started the spam, please show me? Fuck are you on about?
I keep being nothing but respectful and you keep crying about accusations from anti-game schizo against yourself while also supporting his accusations against me.
Do you even understand how retarded your behavior is? As well as pathetic like someone mentioned above

I still find it odd that from all the classic 90s first person shooters the one to get an anime was not Doom, Half-Life, Blood or Duke Nukem but fucking SiN

>>12039254
> just stop correcting my samefagging and gaslighting heh it'll all sort itself out ;)
Nobody buys your shit, you are 100% transparent.

>>12039343
> the dude that bakes new threads (who might as well be a janny or protected by them) won't use the agreed link/image just so the shitstorm doesn't end.
And that's exactly the problem we keep returning to and need to actually fix.
It's even fine if some retard is just trolling by making threads with old links (no really fine but not a banable offense), the problem is the moment people create a thread with an updated link - either janny actually has it deleted for no fucking reason at all or - like last time - this anti-game faggot as I will also now call him literally spams the fucking thread completely free of consequences.
btw people asked me to update the evidence link and I did up to September.
Feel free to look at this if you actually believe any of the shit that anti-link schizo is spouting:
https://imgur.com/a/who-is-anti-doom-autist-XCUcFaK

>>12039372
And voila anti-doom faggot gets what he wanted once again: cancellation of a project.
I believe you should have continued both the pic and the project specifically to spite that faggot but you clearly have 0 tolerance to a samefagging troll so hey

>>12039372
"Fool me once" phrase in full effect here. I was with you during your first burnout, not so much this second time. I do wish you well.

the biggest thing I keep coming back to is so blatantly obvious that we have an anti-progress cocksucker who keeps ruining threads, projects and generally any little thing people wanna improve so we need to strictly do everything to spite him to show him that he's a pariah in this general. Accepting old link or not adding mm or nerf would be giving him an inch which will only motivate him to shitpost harder.
and right now he's feeling victorious because he stopped a major project

>>12039578
>I still find it odd that from all the classic 90s first person shooters the one to get an anime was not Doom, Half-Life, Blood or Duke Nukem but fucking SiN
And it's an anime that kills J.C., SiN's Carmack clone. Such a weird oneoff.
This is also point where I'll once again shamelessly plug the Priest comics https://www.blood-wiki.org/index.php/Priest

Seems like a good time to go catch up on DBPs or do anything that isn't posting in this thread.

>>12039643
It'll at least refrain me from phoneposting/browsing while taking a shit.

>>12038579
they hated him because he spoke the truth. what exactly is the reason for not updating it over than "oh i'm spiteful over one guy because he posts it every thread like a spammer"? just do it and he'll stop, jeez.

>>12039654
The craziest shit though is I already know he will now say "durr he's a schizo, you give him an inch and he'll swallow the whole arm". Except it's literally documented in the archives that everybody who's pro mega man was being basically decent and reasonable, and honestly tried to make an update that people would be ok with, and only responded negatively to obvious trolling, samefagging and gaslighting these past months.
On the other hand, we've had plenty of anons recognize the pattern of shitposting that always aims to limit addition of games and progression of projects - like we literally saw just above with douk guy quitting for good - who had also been protecting by the janny.
Hmmm I wonder... Who's the actual schizo? Who should not be given an inch? Definitely a 300+ IQ problem here

>>12039654
Rewarding faggotry communicates that anybody who wants a change made can force it by pitching a tantrum.

>>12039678
Lmao I literally called it. HAHAHAHA this fucking guy is so predictable

>>12039678
except what is ACTUALLY happening in real world is the anti-faggot (that would be you sir) successfully keeps people from making any kind of contribution by mass shitposting and targeting every person who wants to create anything.
which means like multiple people said above - YOU are the faggot who should not be let force his agenda by shitposting a bunch of tantrums

>>12039676
>>12039678

Holy lmao, if this doesn't wake people up to what the anti-shitter is doing I legit don't know what will

>>12039578
Wait, what the fuck? Did this really happen or am I being memed on?

>>12038246
UV Max in 6:44 https://files.catbox.moe/dkpcw5.lmp

>>12039654
>>12039343
we had a thread with a new link just recently. Guess what happened? The faggot literally shit all over it with actual literal fucking spam. And everybody just switched to a duplicate thread that he himself created. THAT is the problem. People being cucks and not specifically only posting in the new link threads to let this faggot know he's not achieving anything with his spam.

>>12039678
yeah...... 'cept. People have literally been trying for years to make that change happen but your faggotry is what is blocking them. so actually the real situation is more like "nobody can make a change because we have a shitposting king who will literally spam up threads that use the new content to make sure nothing ever gets done." which is much worse unfortunately

>>12038246
Are you playing with keyboard or controller?

>>12039491
killing all monsters in hotpotato18 https://files.catbox.moe/qsyaja.lmp

Quick question for you command line doomers, since my google-fu is weak on this very specific question. How do you load up several files at once?

-file "something.wad","somethingeelse.pk3"
Or do you have to do like
-file "something.wad" -file "somethingeelse.pk3"

>>12039765
only one file parameter
other are ignored

>>12039769
i mean one -file then all wads as arguments to it
-file "something.wad" "somethingeelse.pk3"

>>12039770
at least that's how vanilla and ports like crispy behave

gzdoom, woof and dsda allow you to have several instances of -file

>>12039772
sry not dsda :)
but you get it, just write it in vanilla way

>>12039770
>>12039772
Thank you. The more succinct the better, I think. so if it lets me just do the one, that's my preference.

>>12039378
Wasteland is the worst one, if you don't have powerups for that final fight your only options are save scumming or running for the exit. Otherwise Call of the Machine is pretty good.

>>12038234 (OP)
Man this gen has really gone to shit recently, what happened? I guess it was inevitable since there are so many niceguy redditors here, they allowed the trannies in and now you have shit like megaman autist, dook fag and the schizo guy playing doom on his phone outweighing the quality discussion. This shit is why gatekeeping is a duty.

Can't even fucking talk about Doom without it getting drowned out by a bunch of moaning autists and their bullshit. For shame, I really like this place but it's borderline unusable.

There's plenty of good Halloween maps for co-op, but what about Deathmatch?

>>12039863
Well, talk about DOOM then. What is your:
>favorite weapon
>favorite enemy
>favorite map
For me, it's the rocket launcher, which I use to unload anti-bovine ballistics into my favorite enemy (Cyberdemon, AKA: Super Moo), on my favorite map: Tower of Babel, which, might I remind you, constitutes the superlative DOOM experience.

>>12039871
>For me, it's the rocket launcher
I like the rocket launcher too. I get miffed whenever I see map reviewers complain about it being placed as the top tier weapon. If it was good enough to be big dick back in Doom 1, then it's still good enough to be big dick now.

>>12039871
Shotgun
Caco
also Tower of Moo.

>>12039350
I see you are a fellow man of culture

>>12039887
Dudes love to lean back on the plasma because it's easier to just fire and forget than having to worry about spacing and splash damage, but make no mistake, the RL has always been a top tier weapon. Strafing around a big target is one thing, but unloading 1-2 rockets on small groups and watching them all pop in milliseconds is something no other weapon can do as well.

>>12039713
You can probably tell if you look closely at my turning I'm using mouse and keyboard. Doesn't everyone?

>>12039916
>Doesn't everyone?
Far from it.

>>12039934
Not him but DOOM is one of the few shooters that works extremely well with a controller. DOOM XBLA was awesome with a few blemishes aside. I've been considering playing through 1 and 2 on DOSBox again using xpadder.

>>12038307
he looks like he woukd have the annoying orange's voice with a shitty demonic g major filter

>>12039947
Based fellow moobro. That is exactly what happens in my pants when I watch a cybermoo crumble upon te contact od my last beefmissile.

Howdy boys, hope you're doing well this evening. Switched my desk and junk over to another corner of the sump room, things are getting real spacious now. More room for DOOM.

>>12039971
Where's your roll & rocker?

>>12039974
I don't know, but I do keep proper track of my Rolling Rock.

>>12039971
Nice.

>>12039971
bro your ad blocker?

>>12039971
Nice to see you're still with us, basementbro.

>>12040043
This is a new PC I cobbled together a few days ago from a busted 2017 HP Omen desktop I bought on eBay with some spare parts added in so I haven't had a chance to set up my browser or do any other tuning, but I don't use an ad blocker normally anyway because I spend a good 90% of my time on my PC offline anyway. Shitposting on 4thchin is one of my rare online indulgences.

>>12040049
I'm hanging in there brother, that's all any of us can do.

>>12039971
what game is that and what are you writing in notepad

>>12039343
>>12039591
>>12039705
Lemme give a story about this faggot
Back when this thread began talking more about other games circa 2019(right when the early ESRGAN craze began as when q1 map jams weren't pozed shit dominated by the sheep yet), he began shitting the OP removing the mention of other games, had a huge hateboner against quake 2, douk and build games(fact this was also the period where Blood CM and GDX came to be), every time when the name DOOM THREAD/RETRO FPS THREAD was at the op he began shitting the threads, he always threw a fucking tantrum and the threads were even prunned with a ban or two due to him mass reporting people, including i who was fed with his bullshit.
It took a while until he disappeared and everything went back to normal, but it was impossible to post here at /vr/ without him reporting people left and right in this thread or anything related at the catalog.


>>12039971
good to see you alive

>>12039971
>More room for DOOM
More like room for more dumb, lmao

>>12040096
Yup, you're far from the first to bring this up. We need to fight this, especially now when jannies are barely active. But it can get much worse if the future jannies start pocketing him again or - the worst thing that can happen - he becomes a janny (possibly not the first time either). We need to unite

>>12038246
uv-max 5:35, uv-fast 7:06 https://files.catbox.moe/9ta790.zip

>>12039705
>we had a thread with a new link just recently.

No we didn't. That thread used the usual link.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12021340/#12021340

>>12038237
>[9-17] AMC Squad Episode 5 released
>https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc/news/amc-squad-episode-5-release
The biggest downside of AMC is character-restricted missions. I keep replaying the ones, which allow you to choose a playable character freely, while avoiding those that don’t and they constitute like 90% of all levels. I think such a restriction not only kills replayability, but also variety and the whole “bring the most suitable character and gear” thing. And for a good portion of them there are no good reasons to be character-restricted anyway, they feature no story related things, don’t exploit character specific mechanics or do something else that would’ve justified that limitation.

>>12039209
Cyrgoth's Manor, Cyrgoth's Revenge, Afterlands

>>12040404
Is this worth playing for the gameplay and maps? Everything about the mod seems absolutely cringe.

>>12040658
You play it for the cringe. Because it's just a group of high powered autists coming together to make something beautiful.

>>12039696
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_TZMJqYPgQ

>>12040679
Pretty surprising anyone put money into sin after half life made it dated the day it came out.

>>12040679
Fair enough.
>>12040683
Sin still did some neat stuff. Alternate paths and events that affect the world? Kind of cool. Broken and potentially run ending without noclip, but cool.
I wish Sin Episodes didn't end right when it started..

>>12039491
Locker

>>12039971
glad to see you're still with us sump pump bro. how's the saving for the house going?

>Corpse Run
Oh my, now this was fun. Just going ham with a chaingun and BFG against armies of low health monsters. Odd choice with the triple Makron fight at the end, and that the planet mining the blood of some giant eldritch horror dumped me on Earth's Moon.

John Blade has to be the most generic protagonist name of all time

>>12039491
>>12040803
HOTPOTATO19.wad: https://files.catbox.moe/u00iwn.zip
Created a DecoHack file for the project (maintaining parity with the original dehacked lump) and implemented >>12038891's chaingun replacement.
I also decided to rename the otherwise nameless monster "Nightmare Imp" and added the red skull key to >>12039491's area.

>>12040837
>Created a DecoHack file for the project (maintaining parity with the original dehacked lump)
How did you do that? I might want to add something later, but I'm not familiar with keeping older dehacked consistent.

>>12040850
I just meant that the DecoHack script produces a Dehacked lump that is functionally identical to the lump featured in previous iterations. So the LoR decorations and the shadow imp all use the exact same sounds, state frames, etc. as they did before.

>>12040679
Just finished watching this.
I wasn't expecting much, but It's like someone just halfway read the game manual and looked at some character screenshots before shitting this thing out.
The plot is almost kinda interesting at the start, but quickly gets pretty muddled, and then just devolves into killing 'god' with the power of friendship like 99% of weebslop does (I'm not joking, Elexis literally calls her mutated dad a god).
Animation often pretty janky.
The typical monotonous bugman pseudo-classical soundtrack doesn't help either.
It's hard to call it a cashgrab since it would have been so niche at the time - being an anime based on a western computer game.
It just seems pointless.

Is Hot Potato going to be a single map or what?

>>12040909
Single map until we reach the 99th version, then we think of going for another.

>>12040837
Good work, anon. Thanks for sorting the Decohack out.

>>12040837
Can you post the Doomtools project? I had my own decohack stuff to add and it would be easier to work from something that has already been created.

>>12040096
speaking of that screenshot, gimp is less fucked up to work with than photoshop when it comes to downscaling.

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

Oh yeah, it's gaming time

>>12040658
If you like Duke 3D, you'll probably like it. The gameplay is nothing special, the story is mostly cringe, the maps are visually good. It has that "Hey guys, let's put ourselves in out favourite video game universe" kind of feeling. Personally, I like Alien Armageddon more, but AMC maps are much more unique.

>>12040294
Oh yeah my bad. So not even the link, just the fact that the picture was of v9 doom pic was enough to trigger that faggot into literal spam

Blood is fucking based. But so stressful I just keep wanting it to end even though I just got to the 4th level of the first episode lol
Only real way to play is at least well done

>>12041173
This mentality of needing to play on the hardest setting is such cancer. It's like drunk guys going to a curry house on the way home and all pushing each other to eat the spiciest meal there. It's perfectly fine to play on the lower difficulties, the only requirement is that you have fun.

The only way to old shooters games is on the hardest setting while eating the spiciest curry.

>>12041453
It's fuckwits who have tied their sense of worth to doing that, who usually complain the loudest about difficulty while refusing to go even one step lower.

Shit does my head in, I balance HMP as well as UV for a reason.

>>12041453
I sort of sympathize with the few who don't want to "miss out" on higher difficulty enemy placements, but people who enjoy starting things on "normal" get more to look forward to when revisiting it on a more challenging setting.

>>12041473
I tend to find the hard settings too tough, but normal too easy. I wish these games had a middle ground.

>>12041173
Episode 1 probably has the most cultists, which actually makes it pretty miserable, and surely filtered a lot of people starting out.. A mix of fat zombies and dogs and gargoyles and spiders make it more palatable. But at least it still has zombies, so it's not constant buckshot hell.

>>12041483
Anon, these build era shooters have like 5 or 6 difficulties a piece. That's a considerable middle ground.

>>12041483
>I wish these games had a middle ground.
At least Blood's got more options to handle that than the other Build games these days. DOSBlood patch, BloodGDX, NotBlood, and Fresh Supply all give you lots of skill customization.

>>12041479
Blood is one of the few games that I immediately replayed on Well Done after beating it on Lightly Broiled. WD adds some fun tension and makes the game satisfying when you know the general layout, a few secrets, where a douchebag cultist is waiting so you can blow him up etc. etc.
That being said I wouldn't recommend a first timer starting on it especially in the case of E1. It's easy to ammo starve yourself and waste your dynamite before you get a chance to get used to it.

>>12040837
HOTPOTATO20.wad: https://files.catbox.moe/plxmyw.zip

>Fix a misaligned texture in the big hitscanner fight area.
>Also add a more obvious switch that reveals itself after every enemy is active. I got lost here the first time because activating the wall is not obvious. Revert if this is against any rules.
>Added a blue skull key area.

>>12041104
Spent a little time editing this HL2 pulse rifle by TG5 with Tesefy bits. Could be better, I'm not good with sprites.

>>12041104
Learned how to do patrol routes - too early for putting in enemies but at least I can experiment with encounters this way

>>12041104
Been working on maps and making more distinct assets for them.

>>12041582
This is awesome! So nice to see Deus Ex content.

>>12041565
Half-Life 2 content in Doom is a rarity. What will this be used for?

>>12041558
good room and fight

>>12041558
Locking. Gonna add a room I want to add really quick.

>>12041558
One of the stairs has a missing texture.

>mbf2y
more like mbf2why do we need more mapping standards?

Firewall was really fun too. I don't know why I struggled on Wsteland so much, I'm almost done and these have all been relatively simple with just a couple of tough fights here and there. I guess I must have squandered my power ups back then.

>>12041648
>>12041558
HOTPOTATO21.wad https://files.catbox.moe/5ddfpl.zip

Added a new branch to the path. Also added texture to the step from the previous room that was missing. Added WFALL textures for waterfall.

There's missing upper textures in the starting room, what's up with that?

>>12041736
Forgot the screenshot.

>>12041736
>There's missing upper textures in the starting room, what's up with that?
That got accidentally moved in version 20. The ceiling was bumped up one tick.

>>12041609
It'll be Eraser 2's SSG replacement. Thinking it's a burst-fire gun shooting incendiary projectiles affected by gravity.

>>12041714
>That ONE PS1 exclusive arachnotron with double railguns in the sewer
>They never use it again
>It's not even a boss
CotM has so many weird design choices I don't even know where to start. The most praised level (Corpse Run) is just a slaughterfest with no real level design, they re-use bosses constantly, so you kill the Makron about 7 times by the end, they shove last minute expansion medics into boss fights just as a fuck you on some maps and the "twist" at the end would have been cool if it wasn't for the Strogg creator being a couple of shamblers somehow. It's just MachineGames desperately wanting to make their own Arcane Dimensions and once again failing to understand what made that good. But hey, they slapped in a rainbow flag and snubbed the "problematic" iron maidens for having big boobs, right?

>Advanced engine needed : ZDoom
Other than GZDoom and decade-old ZDoom, what's the best alternative port to use here?

>>12041878
Zandronum, I guess?

>>12041765
The people at Machine Games are far removed from their days of making Enclave and Riddick where they actually had to try. They've been completely on autopilot since they got Wolfenstein plopped in their lap.
I wouldn't be surprised if they just saw the heaps of praise slaughtershit gets on Doomworld and figured that's what people want from their 'boomer shooters' now.

>>12041892
Checked in with Helion and what I see is
>Limited ZDoom support (Line specials)
Not fully equal as a main driver, which is a shame. I might look into LZDoom as it appears to be another viable alternative.

>>12041736
lock

>>12041746
so what should i do with it, lower the ceiling again?

>>12041963
Yes.

>>12041963
Or turn the squares into light or something. It makes more sense that the bricks are aligned.

>>12041104
Rare double-dipping, but I've been adjusting the code for the new monsters. A friend made them for a project that feels like it's dead in the water, so I'm reusing them for Eraser 2.

Also got 3 guns done. Might make the machine gun use projectiles instead, not sure.
>https://webmshare.com/LBbdr

>>12042016
That's a fucking cool shotgun.

>>12042013
>>12042008
I'll just fix the missing texture. If anyone wants to do smth to that spawn area, you should mirror your edits to the fake spawn area so that this transition works.

God dammit. I got addicted to shooters again. I just want to sit around all day playing every Duke Nukem level there is no matter how shitty it is.

>>12041104
Finished the beach/subway map. Early stages of an industrial/factory level now.

>>12042104
I love spotting random textures from doomworld dump. Those tech walls deserve more love, lol.

>>12042104
Looks good. Strong aesthetic.

>>12042069
I could never play nothing but retro shooters, but I do have these weird binges every few months where I could play Doom or Quake all day. Duke/build never did it for me though, although I do love the interactivity.

>>12041736
>>12041959
HOTPOTATO22.WAD https://files.catbox.moe/1ak7ug.zip

Made water area enclosed and got rid of zokumbsp specials. Made transition cave a bit brighter and easier to navigate but still dark to mask flat offset. Fixed some misalignments. Added "debug switch" (SW1DBG) but idk how to make it animated.

>>12042143
damn i can't sleep at night, guess i'd lock again

Can the Legacy of Rust expansion work on a DOS computer from the early to mid 90's?

>>12042264
Probably not. Are there even any MBF21 engines ported to DOS?

>>12042264
Doom already made compromises to work easily on computers of the era, bro. Legacy crammed like a million enemies in some areas. That alone would probably bring the whole game to a crawl.

>>12042143
Seems like some of the teleporters broke.

>>12042403
i will fix, doing major update now