Thread 3796404

I just picked this game up because I saw there was a DLC for Sakuna and I love the rice goddess loli. Is it any good? I've only played RF4 and I loved it a lot, spent 100+ hours in it.
Also general RF thread.

>>3796404 (OP)
Yes it’s good so long as you’re not a crafting autist who only plays these games to fulfill your crafting autism. (But if that’s the case you should really be playing something like Atelier over Rune Factory anyways where crafting is actually the focus, RF has always just been an extension of Harvest Moon and is focused on being a life-sim first and foremost), most regular people only play Rune Factory for it’s social and dating sim mechanics, and in that respect it’s as good as any other Rune Factory that’s not 1, 2, or Tides.

Also now that our generals have been kicked off of /v but Rune Factory is finally back, /rfhm/ general revival WHEN?!

>>3796550
I did like the crafting at first in RF4, but I'll admit toward the lategame the crafting grinding got a bit insane.

>>3796604
Are you the OP? You should post this thread on /v/ too, you’ll get more traffic there.

>>3796606
Getting more traffic from underaged summerfags posting cropped Zelda porn isn't a very appealing prospect.

Played the game for the first time and it crashed immediately after the first boss. Incredible.

>>3797212
it never crashed for me, I had stutters and lags when there was a lot going on the screen but never a crash

>>3797212
I beat it on the steam deck without a single crash, that's wild.

>>3797745
>>3797976
Yeah I couldn't find too much info on crashes either. It's weird because my rig was running it just fine overall, it's not the strongest PC ever but it runs pretty much anything out there just fine. Just got done playing the RE4 Remake on high graphics just fine.

>Can’t do this with Hound
Shit game.

>>3799361
>can do this with fubuki
100/10 best game every made, will name my children after him

It’s a 6 out of 10. The game is “fine” or “okay.” I wouldn’t go so far as good but that’s just me. It starts out fun but gets old before you roll credits.

>>3799595
>It’s a 6 out of 10. The game is “fine” or “okay.” I wouldn’t go so far as good but that’s just me. It starts out fun but gets old before you roll credits.
What are you comparing it to? Other JRPGs? Action RPGs? Life sims? Harvest Moon/Rune Factories?

>>3799993
I’m not comparing it, or I would have mentioned a comparison. I am scoring it off of its own merit.

anyone knows how to find this dungeon here?
it cant be the post game dungeon, thats at the end

>>3800178
I think that one's the Old Village. You fly there and it's not a dungeon, look for the random light pillar

>>3800341
nah, it isn't I already visited it
exept if there is another dungeon inside there that I missed

>>3800346
Another dungeon? It's just basically a room
No, not the place you rescue Ululaka from, it's the old village you and the other MC came from. It's one little map with a shrine, some non-quest archery targets, and a hidden chest you find with the staff

>>3799361
just once I want a yandere bachelor in these types of games, but not a shota one that’s gross

>>3800421
>thinks shotas are gross
What are you, some type of normalfag?

>Director keeps retweeting MC/Hound fanart, including ones outright begging for Hound DLC
What does he mean by this?

>>3801951
white(haired) women....

>>3801951
keep your mental illness on /v/

bros I beat post game and still haven't found that location, what the hell is going on?

>>3802441
I'll check my list when I get home this evening

>>3802441
it's ??? village where you go to buy ??? seeds

>>3802487
I wish more farming games did mystery seeds, they're fun
I think it's just Stardew Valley and ToT/Animal parade

oh no, the old lady got prosessed by fubuki

>>3802441
You didn't explore the sky islands?

>>3802775
>turns out if you never manualy land in spring village, that point of interest doesn't get unlocked even when you originaly start your jurney there
thats dumb

>>3802532
IT HAPPENED AGAIN, she is speaking tounges

>>3796404 (OP)
5/10 game at best.

Has fuckall to do with Rune Factory so if that's why you bought it, might as well refund it.

Combat is garbage. Farming barely exists. Crafting doesn't exist except through predetermined menus. Story sucks.

About the only thing half decent about this game is the village building if you care about that but even that is limited and not that great.

I have no idea why anyone talked about this game at all. There are way better games to spend your time on.

>>3803043
Oh yeah, the spring skies teleport location
I didn't find out about that until almost the end of the game

>>3803171
Shut the fuck up, retard.

I love RF and I just started playing this last week, and I love it. It's definitely different from a mainline game but it is by no means a bad game, or "not RF".

MOGGED

>>3803171
>Combat, Farming, Crafting and Story
Absolutely none of those things matter in a life-sim and are tacked on window dressing at best. What really makes or breaks a Rune Factory is the social life and romance and family aspects. Are those well-done with lots of dialogue and interactions? Well congratulations you have yourself a good Rune Factory then!

I really liked the Viatrea lore dump desu
Really have to wonder were the fuck the games are going next after RF5 and GoA's developments though

>>3803310
>>3803775
Both of you are retards and only a retard would play a farming game for the life sim. They are called farming games for a reason. The life sim portion only exists because at the beginning of the genre, there wasn't enough things to do without adding that in.

I have played farming games since the original harvest moon on SNES and the only time I've given a single fuck about villagers was when a festival was going on or something is locked behind talking to them.

The fact that you dick suckers think that is the main pull of these games is retarded. I will give you that AT BEST 50% of the base likes or cares about it and most of that 50% are women who would be just as happy playing Animal Crossing which also has fuckall to do with Rune Factory or anything like it.

>Features
>Adds the ability to adjust village farmer behavior in the Options menu. You can now toggle the following tasks on or off: sow seeds, water fields, and harvest crops.
>Adjusted the volume of certain lines for Zaza and Woolby in Japanese.
>The Sacred Sword can now harvest crops over a wider range.
>Added new warp points for Spring Village’s and Autumn Village’s development zones
They unfucked the game bros, well for switch players anyway, pcbros have to wait.

>>3803951
That's funny because pc got the last patch first

>>3803775
the dialogue and interactions aren't very good compared to rf4
3d was a mistake

>>3803989
Over the shoulder 3D was a mistake
>tfw we could've had a watercolor-style game in the vein of the doraemon sos games but in minako iwasaki's artstyle
I've said it once, and I'll say it a thousand times
We were robbed

>>3804024
For Harvest Moon maybe, that style can fuck off for Rune Factory

>>3804031
I would rather have it and have it look like 1, 2, 3, and 4

>>3803934
>The life sim portion only exists because at the beginning of the genre, there wasn't enough things to do without adding that in.
>I have played farming games since the original harvest moon on SNES
I can tell you’re an LARP zoomer because if you weren’t you would know that the original creator of Harvest Moon, Wada, always intended for the series to be a life sim first and foremost and it’s actually the exact opposite of what you first claimed. Hell, some of the games entries he’s directed such a A Wonderful Life or Save The Homeland barely even have farming.

You want a pure autistic farming simulator than go play Farmville, the genre has never been about that and you know it.

>>3803989
>the dialogue and interactions aren't very good compared to rf4 3d was a mistake
What does it bring 3D have to do with anything? Are you implying no 2D portraits makes it less immersive or something?

>>3804209
the reason conversing with NPCs is sluggish and limited is because of the 3d models/face to face camera
that's why there's no group dialogues outside of scripted cutscenes and why they wouldn't waste lots of dev time scripting such cutscenes for miscellaneous events throughout the year

>>3804262
>the reason conversing with NPCs is sluggish and limited
How is it limited?

>No group dialogues
There is though, you just have to put certain combinations of characters in your party.

>>3804209
Except no one gives a fuck about what he intended. In the end, it's the farming part that's interesting. This retard is the same guy who fucked the whole series over time because they couldn't envision the idea of giving freedom to the player and got quickly outclassed by other games as soon as any rival hit the market.

Even on the SNES, it was funner to try to see how many berries you could carry from the forest to your bin before the day ended than it was to find villagers and hear what useless bullshit they have to talk about. The furthest I've ever interacted with that system is picking out a wife from all the chicks available and only because I consider it part of beating the game.

>Director still retweeting Hound bait shit like pic related
Really what is his motivation for this?

>>3807323
suffering

>>3807323
fueling your mental illness

I miss harvest moon...

>>3808035
>I miss harvest moon...
? The Grand Bazaar remake is coming out next month anon…

Bumping.

>>3808237
I hope that game turns out good

>>3813697
Cute and canon

So who here is picking up the Grand Bazaar remake?

Are the special versions of 3 and 4 better than the ds originals?

>>3818461
QoL aspects they are, also add some minor bits of content, as well as offering JP VAs but at least in RF4's case it takes a pretty heavy hit in graphics by adding some garbage filter over it, not sure if 3S corrected that as i havent looked into that one too much, aside from that they're upgrades i think

>>3818451
I am, it's around my birthday so I'm hoping the universe will give me a good game for a present

>>3818532
3S had a little more work put into it (like with the item icons and the NPC/monster models), but when it comes to the backgrounds, they were still run through a version of Waifu2X
A more modern version of the one they used in 4S, but still, they could've at least dedithered the backgrounds first

>>3818540
Think 4S got a mod to de-filter it, not sure if 3S got the same treatment but yeah that's all i can think of that was a real negative with those 2 remakes. Aside from personal preference in that i prefer te 2 screen format the DS provided

>>3818543
Yes, it did. I made it lmao. I was going to look into one for 3S but I want to redo 4S's mod first now that I got my grubby little hands on a 5090 and I can train better upscaling models much faster.

>>3818561
Bless you then anon, not sure why they couldnt have just left that as simply an on/off option as id rather have the old "ugly" 3ds textures then the trash filter they decided to use instead

>>3801951
>literally just a murderous psycho
>no redeeming features
>would kill every other god in the game given an opportunity
>eats humans alive and demands human sacrifices
>his twin brother who is a good person is RIGHT THERE
>women still desperately want to marry him
Scary…

>Clarice just moved up a spot
oh nonono Irohabros

>>3821163
Pilika Pals…is being DLC locked too much of a nerf?

>>3821271
DLC isn't a part of the achievements, otherwise Cuilang would be way up there

>>3821285
…The autismbot is popular?

>>3821326
Women love him

>>3821392
>Women love the awkward bot man and the theocidal serial human eating wolf man
>Guys like the sweet motherly woman with huge tits and the childbood friend

>>3821501
Who likes Iroha the canon wife?

>>3820168
You think if it was a girl it would be different?

>>3822439
people who play Kaguya, the canon protagonist and ship her with her canon lesbian wife with their canon gay turnip babies

>>3821163
Man the women and gay men love Kai huh. Maybe I'll see his stuff

Anyone here got the Japanese guide that just came out?

Bump

>>3821326
>>3821392
>>3821501
I personally feel insulted guys got a cute bear waifu for DLC while us girls got a literal walking vibrator when we could’ve had the Hound…

>>3828920
Cuilang's a good character, though

>>3831123
He’d be even better if he weren’t a robot, like his design, not so much the fact that he’s literally a programmed A.I. It just ruins immersion.

I wanna kiss my plastic husband

>>3799362
>>3822671
>gayshit
You have to go back.

Grand Bazaar remake releasing in like a day, reviews are already up and they’ve been pretty good so far, seems like it’s a massive step up over the original…

Who’s getting it?

>>3833574
I'll take one for the team
I liked the original well enough, I just hope this one added more map

>>3833574
The food expiration thing is kinda putting me off.

>>3833895
>The food expiration thing is kinda putting me off.
Who the fuck cares about that, is the dialogue good? Is there a lot of variety?

>>3834034
I don't know. I haven't played it yet.

Started RF5 last night, played 4 some years back and liked it. 5 is...kinda weird? Can't say I remember everything from 4, but menuing in 5 feels kinda bad. Also I'm far from a graphicsfag, but the game looks like an uni student's project, they should've either taken their time or stuck to the old style. The furniture placement system is also pretty ass and triggering my autism. The rest is decently enjoyable so far at least, though I haven't gotten very far. Being able to run into males' affection events as a guy is absolutely diabolical, what the fuck

>>3836376
>Paw, make me a harem protagonist!

Grand Bazaar's pretty fun so far
definitely fixed my issues with the original

>>3836900
>Grand Bazaar's pretty fun so far
definitely fixed my issues with the original
Is there more daily dialogue now? How’s the dialogue variety compared to say RF4 or Trio?

>>3837285
There's a lot more dialogue from what I can tell.
There's contextual dialogue too, like in the newer games.
The heart events/villager events are really good so far (still in the first spring), even better than GoA in terms of expressiveness and framing, in my opinion. In fact, even though I chose to have portraits on, you really don't need them on (but I'm glad that they're there)

>>3837365
i should mention I should've said "a lot more dialogue than the original" and definitely not more than rf4

>>3837368
>i should mention I should've said "a lot more dialogue than the original" and definitely not more than rf4
More than POOT at least right?

>>3838206
I didn't play that piece of shit so I couldn't tell you

>>3838231
>I didn't play that piece of shit so I couldn't tell you
So which game would you say Grand Bazaar’s dialogue variety resembles?

>>3836376
>Being able to run into males' affection events as a guy is absolutely diabolical, what the fuck
I seriously don't understand why these games can't just add a sexuality option when you start the game.

If you pick straight, you only have straight romance options/events. If you pick gay, you only have gay romance options/events. If you pick bi, you get all romance options/events.

Why is that so hard? Instead, most games with romances now just force you to be pansexual.

>>3839026
I would say the first SoS on the 3DS, maybe a bit more thanks to all the contextual stuff

I started Rune Factory Frontier yesterday.
After GoA this game feels so much better.
It's sad how much they walked away from the original way of this franchise.

>>3839145
>After GoA this game feels so much better
In what way? What problems did you have with Azuma?

Grand Bazaar or Azuma?

>>3840560
If you like farming, Grand Bazaar
If you like combat, Azuma

>>3839145
I'm still sad they didnt continue with that graphic style, it upscales pretty well to the point it might be the best looking game the series has

>>3840647
What about for socializing/dialogue?

>>3841219
They're both pretty good in that regard
Though Grand Bazaar has events with villagers and not just romantic interests

I don't see any more Grand Bazaar threads up in /v/ so I hope you guys don't mind if I ask this question here.
Are any other pirate fags trying the game? Install says to block the exe in my firewall so the game doesn't go online but is this something you actually have to do? I didn't think the game had any online features. If so what are they?

>>3841773
It possibly checks for DLC? It has a DLC menu
I'm not sure, actually

>>3841798
Well I guess I'll block it anyway, it just seems pointless that's all.

>>3841826
It's probably a side effect of it being made in Unity

>>3841773
>Pirating the first good SOS game in a long time and not supporting Marvelous where your mouth is
Why would you do that? If you bought POOT but not the GB remake you’re just encouraging them to make more slop instead of kino.

So who’s looking forward to RF6 hopefully being shown in the Nintendo Direct tomorrow?

>>3843053
too early, give it another year

>>3843053
Always bet on nothing.

>>3843053
You're retarded if you're expecting that. RF6 will be announced in 2026 for a summer 2027 release

>>3844097
To be fair, it was announced in literally the same direct as GoA and the untitled Story of Seasons game that turned into the Grand Bazaar remake

>>3844144
Wasn't it the Marvelous showcase in summer 2023

>>3844179
May 2023
I thought it was announced before that, but I guess time kinda blurs together

I put 100 hours into Azuma, but I never really ended up liking how the game looked with the whole full proportioned bodies everyone had.

I've just finished Witchspring R, and I feel like the game's aesthetic is a lot closer to what I'm looking for in a "modern"/"has-some-semblance-of-an-actual-budget" RF game. And mind you, Witchspring isn't even nowhere near what most people would call a game with a budget.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoGXCuh_2-o

The not quite fully chibi look of the models while still having moving mouths and emoting actions (while still having traditional 2D portrait variations) I feel is what would work best for RF.

>>3841773
>I don't see any more Grand Bazaar threads up in /v/
Make one then.

>tfw whatever future non remake SoS game won't have the bazaar
It hurts...
Having a big money making goal to work towards once a week is amazing for keeping motivation to play up desu

>>3845124
>non remake
Huh? Isn't it easier for them to incorporate the bazaar system into a new game than an old game?

>>3845127
No? The maps and setting of most of the other games don't really have the appropriate setup for the bazaar, at most maybe SoS on 3DS could accommodate it, though they'd have to unfuck its shit regarding time management with nonsense like having to wrangle your livestock day in and day out for hours at the safari just to get +rank goods, to accommodate it.

>>3845131
Wait I'm a retard, excuse that, and yeah it'd be much easier to do it for a new game, but Marvelous could always go full retard again and go back to the shipping bin system while introducing some other gimmick into the next entry.
It'll be hard to go back to not double jumping and parachuting everywhere though

>>3845124
>>3845131
Didn't Story of Seasons(3DS) and Story of Seasons Trio of Towns had some form of a bazaar/market stall?
Honestly, these are the only games I'm waiting to get remastered, because these were the last Bokujo monogatari (not counting Rune Factories) Hashimoto was involved in.

On a side note, I'm honestly baffled. He made games great and character direction/writing enjoyable when he was involved.
But when he decided to go indie, he only produced weird rpgs sims that had a good idea behind them but zero budget and tons of issues.

>>3845160
Trio of Towns definitely did not, unless you mean the NPC shops
RF4 did have it though

>GB reached 500k in a little over half a month
>Azuma took a bit over 2 months
Huh, I honestly thought the whole rpg combat thing was a bigger draw than pure farmtism
Well regardless it's nice to know both are doing well

>>3845199
99% of the indie farming games (stardew aside, let's be fair) and even some of the "modern" Bokujo Monogatari games can't seem to grasp the "je nais se quoi" of the genre

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/rune-factory-devs-created-guardians-of-azuma-as-a-way-to-experiment-with-the-ip-before-tackling-a-new-mainline-entry/
>When we finished developing Rune Factory 5 (2021), I explained to our higher-ups that the game was essentially a direct port of Rune Factory 4’s systems into 3D. Because of that, the overall impression felt quite close to Rune Factory 4, and I felt like the gaming experience didn’t change that much. To be honest, even when I played Rune Factory 4 back when it came out, I felt that what it offered wasn’t all that different from Rune Factory 3.
THAT CERTAINLY WASN'T 5'S ISSUE

>>3845858
RF5's gameplay style, menus etc are still styled around RF4 despite the fact that shit's fully 3D now which was its biggest problem because it doesn't work outside of a topdown vantage
He's right that it's why the game plays like shit albeit since he made the game and is representing the company he can't actually call it shit.
Nor would suddenly bringing up the bad implementation of suddenly everyone is Bi be a smart idea

>>3845160
>On a side note, I'm honestly baffled. He made games great and character direction/writing enjoyable when he was involved. But when he decided to go indie, he only produced weird rpgs sims that had a good idea behind them but zero budget and tons of issues.
Because he’s literally broke, that’s also why RF5 was such a mess.

>>3846108
Instead of releasing 5 flops he could've consolidated their budgets and made one(1) decent game. Furyu's stuff are also borderline shovelware budget wise but they somehow managed to make them work most of the time. Also isn't Marv funding RF? Hard to believe their main moneymaker gets no money from Marvelous.

>>3845903
>Nor would suddenly bringing up the bad implementation of suddenly everyone is Bi be a smart idea
This is why you should never ever give localizer trash any say. We could've had romanceable dragons but instead they spent all their resources on homo shit, and it was still terribly implemented.

>>3846249
>implying removing the limiter for X events only happening to girls/boys was any real effort
It's not the localizers fault that Marvelous are money grubbing retards who made dragon fucking DLC and then made a game too shit for anyone to want to spend additional money on shit that should've been there from the start

Post-marriage DLC content coming for Azuma:

https://x.com/RuneFactory/status/1968876495989772547

With more post-marriage content this game might honestly have a chance of surpassing 4 as the best RF game…

>>3846651
>giant summer village field
neat

>>3846651
Neat, though the patch would have to be real meaty to make me come back for any significant amount of time as I already completed all there was to complete before putting the game down

>>3846651
>Main Quest done at 100 hours
>No post game dungeon to hit till I marry someone.
This sure killed my motivation. Grinding Bond levels doesn't sound fun since at the latter half of the day, I go dungeon hunting.
Also, I wish theres another dungeon to tackle similar to Sharace Maze of RF3.

>>3846673
Time to put another Volcano on it.

Picked up 5 a few weeks ago and I'm honestly enjoying it, beat the main story and the maze, doing festivals and more "life-sim" stuff now. It's definitely a game on a budget and worse than 4, and there's something wrong that I can complain about with just about every system, but I still find it fun and relaxing, and the characters are likeable. Probably gonna go back and make a save that I can branch into every other girl's route when I truly see everything there is to see on this one.

>>3796404 (OP)
Will I enjoy this game if I've only ever played RF1?
I did enjoy RF1 a lot I always went for Tori

>>3847625
It's radically different from 1 (or any other prior RF game for that matter).
If you want an experience similar to 1, just play any of the numbered mainline RF games instead of the spinoffs.

>>3847290
>Probably gonna go back and make a save that I can branch into every other girl's route when I truly see everything there is to see on this one.
i thought there was already a system in which you could just marry someone else implemented ingame?

>>3847625
You will enjoy RFF
The Runeys cheat is A MUST HAVE (unless you're playing JP version, because the localizers fucked up the mechanic)

>>3847659
>Always went for Tori
>will enjoy RFF
Anon I...

>>3847651
If there is one I sure haven't heard of it. I know there is a mod for that but I'd feel bad about doing it anyway.

>>3847665
You can get some mail from her, but you'll have to let her go, she along with a few otheres weren't popular enough to get put into RFF rip felicity

>>3847648
And don't forget to turn on the fast disc speed option in Dolphin

>>3847665
Felicity my wife...Sharron my almost-wife...

>>3847724
makes me wonder if that's why RFF sales were so bad in comparison to 1's

Done with the first year in 5, I have to say that by far my biggest issue with the game is that the postgame is very barren, Rigbarth Maze can be easily cleared with random gear, and then you're left with nothing to use all the much more overpowered gear on. I'm just doing festivals I missed, town events that were cucked by romance events taking precedence, waiting for children, and hunting for new villager lines, or I guess in short enjoying the life sim part at this point, which while pretty fun, is not entirely enough.

>>3850448
I just figured RFF sales were bad because RF in general had mid sales until 4, but them being on a DS budget helped pad the dev costs, frontier costed a fair bit more and thus its usual middling sales hurt it more. Also just the fact that it had its share of issues along with being a much slower game compared to 1/2 in terms of progression. I think this repeated itself with tides

>>3851333
Do we have accurate sales statistics for the whole series?
Which games sold the best?

>>3851373
Wikipedia has a list of the known sales numbers and the articles where those figures come from.
Of the known numbers RF4 has sold the most if you combine the original 3DS release plus special, but RF5 and GoA both sold more than the original game on their own, and GoA in particular reached 500k in a much faster timespan than RF5 so it should become best selling soon if it isn't already

>>3851378
Same wikipedia lacks any numbers for frontier however, so can only speculate it did similar to RF1/2 at best and given tides also sold the least among the RF games it could be the same for frontier and it was 10-20k lower in a series that seemingly was peaking at a little over 117k until RF4 going by those numbers

>>3851382
The other day I found a site that had the complete famitsu list for 2009 that includes Frontier's lifetime sales
http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/08/07/famitsus-truly-massive-top-1000-games-of-japan-in-2009-list/
>615 [WII] Rune Factory Frontier (Marvelous Entertainment) – 10.949 / 41.170

>>3851413
Though I should've mentioned, it's the physical Japanese sales, but that's in line with the numbers Wikipedia uses for the other RF games on that page

Anyone still playing RF4? One recent /v/ thread got me interested and I'm addicted again. I'm trying to comprehend the multi-stage crafting process of inheriting materials, equipment base stats and rarity/item levels. It's breaking my brain but I wanted to finally get good at this excel spreadsheet simulator disguised as a farming sim.

>>3851686
Adding items onto a craft has a chance of passing on those items bonus to the weapon, if your newly crafted item's name is blue that's a guarantee something was passed on, but you'll have to check in with Barrett to confirm which items bonuses were inherited because shit's RNG

If you craft a weapon into an identical kind of weapon, the new weapon inherits the old ones base stats and mats, this is handy if you're item level maxing as it's much easier to craft a basic sword whose only requirement is a level 10 ore and have it inherit a much stronger weapons' base stats, vs gathering level 10 versions of all of that stronger weapons materials to raise its item level as high as possible.

Item levels, as well as item rarity give powerful stat boosts to your equipment if you can reach certain thresholds to them, for item levels the biggest boost from this comes from crafting a weapon using level 10 versions of its base materials, shoving all kinds of level 10 materials into any open slots available, and then upgrading that weapon level 10 materials.
Turnip seed sword is a commonly recommended beginner super weapon because once you level turnip seeds to level 10, they're an extremely easy to get level 10 material for boosting your shit, albeit it falls off by late Act 2
Likewise if you shove enough incredibly rare materials into a craft, it can also give them a giant boost to their stats.

>>3851809
I have the basics down now but I'm left with a few questions about item rarity. I stubbornly want to avoid the broadsword life and use some of the fancier high level weapons as my model. Trouble is, many of them require up to 5 materials to craft them. My thought process was this

Craft a broadsword + 3 inherited items
Craft a high level sword + broadsword (and inherit those 3 items)
Craft another high level sword, inherit the base stats of the previous one + retain the 3 items from our original recipe

So far this all works but I lack the high quality items to test further. If I successfully inherit that 2nd sword alongside the 3 items into my final weapon do any of those components give rarity points? Or do the remaining 5 craft slots make up the rarity bonus here? I see no comments about equipment rarity so if that's a fat zero my potential rarity cap drops from 225 to 210, hitting that final tier at 200 becomes very difficult in that case.

>>3851862
Don't forget the Light Ore weapon transferring trick, too
Also, pro tip: you can make a secret tier of tools with light ore and a sacred pole in the extra slots
Since the sacred pole has extra charges, the light ore transfers that to the watering can/hoe

Is there a best wife in Grand Bazaar or are they all kinda good

>>3851333
Since I'm playing Frontier right now I guess this game would still filter over 90% of the modern Rune Factory audience.
If you don't grind a lot and put some actual effort into your equipment the endgame enemies will tear you apart within seconds and literally everything can give you nasty status effects or debuffs.
Oh and bosses always gets stronger if you progress to the next dungeon and defeat other bosses.
I really love this game.

>>3851988
A lot of people like Freya and June

How do I get through the room full of wizards in rf4 in leon karnak? I can't hit them with my weapon or magic.

>>3852311
Make object Xs with failed synthesises and throw them

>>3852057
I think frontier is when the series started really pushing you to upgrade your damn gear, at least from memory in RF1/2 you could be quite lax in gear quality and still do well enough but frontier will push your shit in if you dont regularly upgrade your kit. Once you get that into your head the games not too bad, just a bit of a slow process, mainly due to havign to save up for the improved crafting/cooking stations + all the damn utensils

And yeah, its still my 2nd favorite, 4 is ahead just due to the amount of stuff you can do but frontier is peak comfy

>>3851988
I love Freya, but June, Kagetsu and Diana are cute too.
Sophie is alright I suppose not my thing, same with Maple but even moreso.

>>3851988
If you can stand your waifu being taller than you, Freya

>>3852504
Can we have one game where the PC isn't a fucking midget

>>3852541
No

>>3852377
Never played it but i love the look of frontier. Why couldn't they make rf5 look like this?

>>3852570
Beats me, aside from it being potentially more expensive to use that kind of graphics style. Would definitely recommend trying it though you have to be willing to deal with a slower game, as this was before they got into the more action focused style of 3 onwards as well as 2-3 games worth of QoL.

Really only complaint i have with that game is similar to most of the other games in the series in that the dialogue is limited, so you'll run into repeat dialogue pretty quick, along with just lacking the QoL stuff later games provide, and the fucking harvester that thing takes up so much unnecessary time even if you take out needing to worry about runeys and i dont know why they made it like that

is the new content from the update worth doing ?

>Tsubame’s Early Bird Boutique will now sell Chocolate after you reach a certain Village Level.
OH SNAP

Huh, I thought they were gonna drop the update in a couple months, not like a week after the announcement. Guess I'll finally buy it.

>>3852871
WHY WASNT THIS A THING ON LAUNCH I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FIND THE CHOCOLATE MERCHANT FUCKER

>>3852925
That's exactly why. They realized gating it to that one traveling merchant was fucking retarded, just as they unfucked the farmer villagers from ruining your crops

I wonder if we're going to continue to get big updates like this.

>>3853003
Well, they did increase the max bond level to 100

>leon karnak bosses deal 2-4k damage per hit
>sharance maze non-boss mobs deal up to 20k
>my unbuffed health is sitting at 2k
I have hit the brick wall

>>3853098
Time to either tame monsters and let them do the heavy lifting or make mega elemental absorbing accessories/armor

So, how's Grand Bazaar remake? I didn't play original (if I remember correctly it was later DS game, I only played OG HM DS and ToTT) and I would like to know what should I prepare for, in other words how much similiar the game is to OG DS one, as it's the one I played the most (in the starting days of DS emulation when game was running on 30-40% speed, God fucking amn it it was ages ago). I have no other game I'm waiting for. Is it worth those 50 euro it's sold for (games are notoriously expensive where I live)?

>>3853298
I fucking love GB, while it's not as rich in character interactions as say, Trio of Towns, its general gameplay loop is addicting enough to make me feel like I'm back in my childhood playing FoMT/HMDS.
There's no mine for gathering ore, or fighting dark chickens/cows to go meet a japanese princess, but there is a inexplicable nip shrine maiden in what is supposed to be a small Kraut village
Anyway, it's a lot like classical Harvest Moon farming wise, but with item freshness and star ranks to shake things up, and most importantly the wind and weekly bazaar system.
There's no shipping bin in this game, instead you earn your money by selling at the weekly bazaar, so you're incentivized to spend the week processing all of the goods you harvest, and gather into processed goods at the windmill so they'll be worth even more money, and trying to follow popular item trends.
The more you upgrade the bazaar the more upgrades you unlock, and townies have quests for you to do as you befriend them, so you end up always having something to work towards.
Just be aware that you can water crops twice in this game so they grow faster, and that if you sleep 10pm you wake up 1 hour later than 6am, and an hour later for each hour you exceed that time

>>3853298
It's a definite improvement over the DS original. They fixed all of my issues with the original, like the tiny map and lack of story/shit to do and added more improvements beyond that. It's the perfect example of how a remake should be and it really seems like they learned their lessons from PoOT, the AWL remake, and the Mineral Town remake

>>3853016
>Well, they did increase the max bond level to 100
Any important stuff beyond Bond Lv.10?

>>3853962
I haven't taken a look yet, but I heard there's a few recipes and stuff but nothing crazy
there's apparently a hound outfit for fubuki though

>>3799362
Wtf there's actual yaoi art of this shit?

>>3839075
Because it's a crude as fuck option that only retards like you would want, the better alternative is having one or two male or female only routes.
It's not like every single character is an option anyway.

>>3853962
Lv. 12 for non-children = Life-Sized NPC Cutout
Lv. 15 Mauro = Coquille Statue
Lv. 15 Hina = Monster Misasagi Cutout
Lv. 15 Fubuki = Hound Cutout
Lv. 15 Kanata = Rin Cutout
Lv. 15 Kagura/Subaru = Your Cutout
Lv. 15 Clarice = Veyron Cutout
Lv. 15 Cuilang = Woolby Cutout
Lv. 16 Fubuki = Hound Costume
Lv. 17 Fubuki = Hound's Cap
Otherwise, every X3 or X8 level is a copy of their unique recipes. Every X0 or X5 level is just a stat increase.

>>3854063
Way more than Subaru/female that isn't Kaguya fanart that's for sure.
Kaguya/male is king though

>>3854064
You are the retard here, literally every time a game has completely unlocked romance that's forced on the player, people hate it. From random gay nigger events in BG3 to this.

>>3854089
>Lv. 16 Fubuki = Hound Costume
>Lv. 17 Fubuki = Hound's Cap
What did they mean by this

>>3853098
It's been a while since RF4 for me so I might be wrong, but keep in mind to use the crafting system. Early on like Leon Karnak you can just fuse random shit with good stats (or run to the right side where the cloud area relatively at the start is, there's a secret area with enemies that drop 2x and 10x steel. It multiplies the boost of your previous material.) You could also get a bit of exp and raise your crafting lvls by using scrap metal and other easy material to the lowest lvl equipment, it will still give ok exp.

When I played I also used sites like gamefaq or these neat blogs: https://reinarf4.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2016-07-15T03:06:00%2B08:00&max-results=7&m=1
Beware of spoilers though.

>>3853098
Depending on where in the game you are at, you're just supposed to run through LK and come back later, stronger. After you have the last NPC guardian.

>>3853098
ghost house is where the game will start hinting that you should maybe start crafting your gear, then LK is where the game slaps you multiple times for not doing so, you either tame a mob and use them to do most of the work or you gotta start grinding up crafting to get your gear up to a good level think LK is either gold or platinum level weapon/armor

Or you play on easy difficulty and dont get slapped until like near the end of the game iirc, but easy is depressingly dull

>>3853098
You learn to craft bullshit, or you quit. Those are your only options

>>3854178
hot yandere bachelor for rf6 confirmed

>>3854339
>only lets the good boy cosplay as the crazy yandere and doesn't actually let you date them
Fat chance, sweaty

>>3854340
let me have my impossible dreams

Rune Factory 3 Special and 5 use Unity. Wonder if Marvelous is going to patch them?
I'm sure they'll patch Grand Bazaar though.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/524229329545071275

>>3854425
>I'm sure they'll patch Grand Bazaar though.
They apparently have now yeah, it's coming along with a neat looking bingo side activity plus a new pirate costume you can earn from playing it in the new patch.

>>3855788
they should add more post-marriage content tbqh

>>3855788
wtf the update is out already? i guess i gotta go back and finally finish the game

>>3855795
Meh, it's the first dlc that came out just a month after release so not having new dialogue/events etc, but instead putting in something that encourages further play is understandable
Having more interactions added like the Trio DLC would be ideal though yeah

>>3855797
They also presumably had to rush it out because of the Unity thing

>>3796404 (OP)
I struggled to enjoy HM/RF games since they added gender selection.
The games feel shallower than back when they would split the games between genders.

>>3855982
Retard

>>3855909
I'm a bit out of the loop, what Unity thing?

>>3855909
>>3856254
Shit, it was in th link earlier in the thread, my bad.

>>3854089
I just got the patch after finishing the Forest of Endings. It seems the post game boss rush is the only good one here. I wish it was similar to a Sharace Maze though so that you don't have to worry on time running during the day. I wish theres a way to craft Magatamas and Crimson Jewels too so you can create your ultimate equiments.
Also, I'm already feeling burnt out after the post game since waiting for the Forest of Endings opening up can be long.

Is Rune Factory 5 any good? How is the translation/localization on that?

The available characters looked cuter than the ones in the newest RF and was thinking of giving it a try

>>3856733
>Is Rune Factory 5 any good?
It's alright, kind of a cross between 3 and 4. The 3d part is pretty badly implemented, maps are big and empty, and idk if it still has lagging issues. People complain about guys trying to gay sex you out of dating/wedlock but I never encountered that.
>How is the translation/localization on that?
The only thing I know is they changed a dog that communicates in barks to communicating in broken english or something like that.

>>3856672
Alright, tried the 2 of the trials and it actually stops time progressing when inside. Pretty great as its actually hard, even on Normal difficulty and I only have the latest equipments but not upgraded and no Magatama. From what I've observed:
-Enemies starts at Lv.160 on first trial and gets higher on other trials. The enemies comes in waves and takes place on a small area so you can get swarmed easily. At Lv.160, you can get killed easily in 4 hits.
-Drops are a bit different. Enemies can drop Black Dragon Scales, White Dragon Fur, Thunder Crystals and Rune Crystals. This solves the problem of not having a good place to farm Rune Crystals. The scrolls like Tiger Scrolls are a problem but one should just hoard them.
-New Magatamas as enemy drops. Theres Berserker Magatama (X% Damage Boost) and Fortress Magatama (X% Damage Reduction). Seems that higher tiers are on the harder trials.
-Each trial have a chest that contains Recipes for a Village Decoration that gives massive stat boost. I remember one gives +800 STR.

Because the trials stops time, you can take your time there and redo it as much as you want a day. Don't expect it to be easy though. I recommend having a few Invinciroids and foods with special effects. The 100% Debuff Res earring also helps in some situation.

>>3856733
>Is Rune Factory 5 any good?
It's alright, definitely worse than 4, but I think it's fun enough. It has issues in just about every aspect, and the full 3D is very rough, but it's enjoyable and the characters are likeable.
>How is the translation/localization on that?
There's definitely trannyslator moments, and like the other anon said, Fuuka's speech mannerisms are pretty weirdly localized, but it's not awful, if anything I'd say it was more acceptable than 4's localization

>>3856861
yeah xseed should've kept the multiple arrow to the knee jokes in 4, how dare they

>>3853325
>>3853436
Thanks anons, I spent last week making fertilizer, pickled shit and tea and I love it. If anything to complain, kinda sucks yellow heart event is confession event, I still have to choose waifu and my dumb ass friendzoned Maple and as I read it locks out marriage. Oh well. Good thing lineup is really good.

>>3856745
Crimson Jewels drops there too, found 3 of them on second trial. This should solve any Magatama slot problem but slots are maxed out on 3 so the last armor is probably the one that will benefit the most on this. Unless you're willing to make your wife/husband and your 2 kids fit them with an ultimate equipment set.

>>3857410
>, I still have to choose waifu and my dumb ass friendzoned Maple and as I read it locks out marriage.
It does not. You're stuck with unromantic lines for the rest of her heart levels and so on, but you're still free to propose to her, the tutorial dor marriage even says as much

>level 1 hell difficulty
why does it hurt so good? I want more games that do things like this

Anyone knows if there is a way to unlock the nip preorder costumes for GB? I looked into the files and I saw they were included I am just too lazy to figure out how to add them

>>3857835
I haven't seen any discussion on that unfortunately

How is the new game? I've played every entry in the series save RF2 (and I haven't played much of Frontiers), and I really didn't jive with RF5. It just seemed like they'd forgotten everything about making a good 3D RF game in terms of gameplay and looks, and were really phoning it in with the writing, design choices and other things that shouldn't even have been different with the change in perspective. Is the new one a marked improvement over RF5 or just the first step in the right direction?
Just by skimming the thread people seem rather happy with it, but you lot can seem rather easy to please due to the only modes of anon seeming to be screaming retard or mild positivity.

>>3858165
Azuma's a good ARPG, but a spinoff that simplifies too much just testing for RF6.
-Life sim authenticity feels shallow since NPC schedules are random, littered across 4 towns, and lacks contextual group convos. NPCs once again have a repeatable pool of dialogue, unlike RF4 where you had a dialogue set for every day.
+Romance: Gift giving now consumes 30 in-game minutes and is still optimal for grinding NPC bond levels, but there are alternative options to extract more dialogue: share a parasol under rain, dining, romantic options. You can pursue every character story simultaneously than be locked into one for a few days, then use Rewoven Fates to see all marriages within the same file.
-There's 25 NPCs + 2 kids = gifting really eats into your daily schedule to farm or dungeon crawl. There's a constant HP/RP drain from midnight to 5 AM for a new curfew, so I'd rush story for the late obtained wives and to avoid missing on the early Summer festivals.
=Progression: infinite skill leveling got cut for a skill tree you can repurpose your farming/logging/walking EXP towards freely. Recipes are obtained via exploration than RNG recipe bread. Lv. 50+ forging item/rarity level and inheritance got cut and now the bulk of your stats come from placing buildings/decorations in your farm/dev zones.
+Farming: Soil level/health/typhoon resistance stats got cut. New Overhead View that makes farming easy and doesn't use RP. Sacred weapons are your tools for faster farming. No need to farm for profit since you can herd chickens or now have villagers run stores, but there are field tasks like Harvestella to reward it.
=Combat: Spears, Axes/Hammers, Fists, and Staves got cut for Bows and Talismans. Rune abilities got cut. Elemental spells got cut for a single sacred weapon attack each + 1 or 2 spirit bar specials. You can't throw items at enemies. Charge attacks and perfect dodges got significantly buffed, and you'll be spamming them to stun bosses and use specials.

>>3858165
Azuma is basically Tides/Oceans 2
That being said, it's very good and a hell of a lot better than Tides and 5

>>3858165
wish i knew, i'm just having fun with GB

>>3858245
>>3858248
Good to know. I quite liked Oceans, but I beat it just before posting. The only real problems I had was that the end-game not having that much to do, and crafting and farming being way too simple. Was hoping that Azuma was more of a traditional RF game, but I guess I'll hold out for a sale or RF6 (had my fun but I don't feel like a second Oceans experience right after finishing it once). Good to hear that the series seems to be back on track.

>>3858165
It's a perfectly mid game, if kept short. Much of its mechanics are serviceable but shallow and the towns feel maybe the most hollow with a different bit of window dressing based on the season its meant to be, noone really has a home nor can you enter any homes aside from your designated place to bum in each area. Villagers just warp around as they please. Character events also felt a bit flat compared to previous games, 1st game i personally didnt care for much of anyone in the cast, despite all the "Additional interactions" via those time spending activities which usually just amount to a line of dialogue if its not unique in which you might get 5 lines!

>>3858590
>The only real problems I had was that the end-game not having that much to do, and crafting and farming being way too simple.

Well the farming's improved i guess? Villagers can take the place of the monsters but you have full control over the fields unlike tides. Crafting is very simple with no real experimentation, just find the recipe and make the item, then spend more material/money to improve it

Azuma is a serviceable game, but it felt like the most hollow RF game to me.

>>3858596
>Well the farming's improved i guess? Villagers can take the place of the monsters but you have full control over the fields unlike tides.
If anything, villagers are /worse/ than monsters because they only get 14 actions per day (1 action being watering, harvesting, or planting random seeds you can toggle off). They work 7 to 11, then 1 to 5, 30 minutes per action so you think you'd get 16, but they actually bug out when they go on break or end their shift. With only 28~30 villagers max, they can't really handle large fields, and you have to Sacred Drum to accelerate growth anyway, so you might as well manually farm for the All-Purpose XP.

As an aside,
=On the combat side of things, I like the fact you can freely change NPC equipment around than gift constant replacements, while all of their abilities are cleared outlined.
The issue is that villagers don't benefit from building/decoration stats, so the only worthwhile roles are De/Buffers so they can jerk you off. Attackers/Defenders suck ass, Healers have lengthy cooldowns besides Suzu, and the lack of item/rarity level forging makes them statistically deadweight. Monsters are worse since despite a giant HP pool (37k bosses to 7k humans), they can't equip the new post-game Magatama for -10% damage taken x 6, so they die quicker.
=For an example of optimal combat against the hardest post-game challenge, it's exactly what I described earlier: perfect dodges, charge attacks, and meter spam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2tfvnZ6DeE
-Items being automatically picked up is a blessing than holding down a 10 stack for every unique item, but that also killed the balance between food and chemistry items. Now all the healing's done from the menu, and the former lacks the lengthy eating animation it used to have, so you'll only use chemistry in post-post-game to maintain a specific food buff.
-Filling the fishing catalog was insufferable since the sky island pool is so bloated.

>>3858833
>Now all the healing's done from the menu, and the former lacks the lengthy eating animation it used to have, so you'll only use chemistry in post-post-game to maintain a specific food buff.
This is a huge demerit by the way and is connected to HP/RP economy practically being non-existent in Azuma.

In the older games, you still had to manually bring out the items and usage of it leaves you open for a brief moment. Food items are much easier to make but leaves you open for like 2-3 seconds while consuming. Medicine on the other hand only has like a split second of delay but are more of a pain in the ass to make.
Items put you at risk in the middle of combat, so your safer healing options would be just using healing spells which are instantaneous, but comes with the cost of expending RP instead.
All options introduce an angle of risk assessment depending on your current circumstances which incentivizes the player to make use of the game's various systems.

The way Azuma handles things makes a pretty braindead game already even more braindead. I'm not gonna pretend the combat in earlier games was better, but the jank actually gave it a charming kind of challenge. Bosses and higher leveled enemies were stat checks that forced you to grind skill levels and game the crafting system. i.e. you know, play the game.

I cleared Azuma's post-game with those autistic difficulty mods that boosted enemy HP/damage modifiers way beyond what the base game allowed and the game was still way easy. I wasn't even using the absolute best equipment around much less use magatama upgrading, but the whole loop of Perfect Dodge -> Unga Bunga -> Kagura Dance -> Repeat was enough to clear even a modded post-game. I'm not even gonna take the "it feels good to git gud" angle here because the Perfect Dodge window is very forgiving and easily spammable.

On paper, Azuma's battle system looks and feels better, but it still ends up feeling more shallow and unsatisfying than earlier titles.

>>3858833
>If anything, villagers are /worse/ than monsters because they only get 14 actions per day (1 action being watering, harvesting, or planting random seeds you can toggle off). They work 7 to 11, then 1 to 5, 30 minutes per action so you think you'd get 16, but they actually bug out when they go on break or end their shift. With only 28~30 villagers max, they can't really handle large fields, and you have to Sacred Drum to accelerate growth anyway, so you might as well manually farm for the All-Purpose XP.

Didnt realize they were so bad, i mostly put them on fishing or lumber or other misc stuff cause yeah the tools you have like accelerated growth or upgrading the levels on crops, along with just the lazy (but welcome) ability to stop time and just do all the planting/watering pushed me to just take care of my own fields

150 hours later and I've finally 100%'d this game. Overall I really enjoyed it. RF4 will still be my favorite.

>>3861775
Congrats, anon

>>3861775
I'm at about 150 hours and I just finished my second rewoven fate... granted I took my sweet time with the main quest and mostly focused on village decorating

>>3861775
I'm now at ~130h and I feel like having enough for now.
I will probably quit after doing the last remaining bonding quests and then just watch all the wedding cutscenes.

i never play games these days but i sunk ~200 hours into rf4 when it first came out. how does the spinoff compare? none of the romancables look particularly interesting this time around

>>3865822
It's not as good as 4 but it's my second or third favorite RF anyway

>rf5 and rf3 special still haven't gotten unity patches
RIP

>>3866242
>>RF4 director is making his own farming game on kickstarter
Is that a good thing?

Farnia Village
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/10/farnia-village-kickstarter-campaign-launched-life-simulation-game-by-rune-factory-4-director
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4128600/Farnia_Village/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1005170304/farnia-village/

>>3866256
Always skeptical of KS stuff but with some touching up it could be pretty nice, and they got "plenty" of time to feature creep work on shaping it up.

>>3866256
Looks like it got funded already, nice

>>3866256
From the Kickstarter FAQ. Since RF5 people in these threads have been asking for romance on/off toggles so you all had better pay up now. I don't think there has been any other game with this kind of option.

>>3866256
>cutest boy is the MC
>looks like a waifu focused game with a few crumbs for fags
Dang, but the controls look super snappy, I really like what I see. NPCs reacting to weather is great too, it's prettt much just RF4 in a different skin. Tempted to give them the 20 bucks.

>>3867157
>kickstarter
Hopefully they won't end up on what happened on Armed Fantasia and Penny Blood.

I really enjoyed Azuma but replaying Frontier just makes me frustrated about how bad the art direction has gotten.
Yeah, I could blame the switch shit performance, but we both know it's not the only thing here to blame.