Thread 3831628

These two could beat the game together.

Shit game.

bird game

>just realised that in Elisabeth's bath scene she was actually telling the truth and wasn't the one who killed the fairies
>it was Elma

>>3831649
if it makes you feel anybetter, at least she uses their guts for something useful

Just finished SL1'ing Black Drake Caramille. It was a long grind and there may have been better ways to pull it off, but here's my setup for future reference.
>Storm Ruler +10
>Leaf Ring
>Ring of Undefeatable (the key to my strategy)
>Rapunzel's Favor
>Ring of White Crow

Start with Fairy Wing + Evade, if there's any moment to risk getting OHKO'd by the dragon, it better be the first turn so you can restart quickly. Your second turn should be Preraise + Fairy Wing. Now, you switch to a 4 turn cycle of actions:
>Evade + Withstand
>Storm Ruler x2
>Evade + Withstand
>Fairy Wing + Storm Ruler
Replace a Storm Ruler with Divine Blessing if applicable (i.e. 1 HP). If double shiny eye happens (forcing the preraise to trigger), apply double Fairy Wing immediately, then Evade + Withstand (it would have to be some massive bad luck to have the shiny eye trigger 4 times in a row), then Preraise next turn and return to your usual cycle. The Ring of Undefeatable is crucial in this setup because the dragon can cast speed debuffs, breaking your attack cycle.

>>3831674
As a side note, this cost me 22 Divine Blessings and 33 Fairy Wings.

>>3831674
very nice, anon

Prayer Master SL1 setup
>Thief's Dagger +10
>Leaf's Ring
>Rapunzel's Favor
>Calamity Ring
>Ring of White Crow

This doesn't have a very strict action order, just Shadowmeld, resin stacking, normal attacks and divine blessings for mana replenishment.

It's not fucking fair, I was so close to doing her in.

>>3831649
What the fuck....

>>3831764
NEVER MIND, WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK

>>3831766
let's fucking go

>>3831769
Alright, this was my setup to deal with Elisabeth. It would probably be a lot easier with the goat ring but I deliberately refused to use it.
>Storm Ruler +10
>Leaf's Ring
>Traitorous Rabbit's Ring
>Apple Ring
>Ring of the White Crow

Dung Pie + Evade until she gets poisoned, then Fairy Powder + Evade until she falls asleep. From that point, double Fairy Powder all the way. The main goal is to prevent the meteor showers in the second half of the HP bar, because Withstand + Preraise won't save you from the third one that hits you.

>>3831649
That's our silly elma

>>3831773
>spoiler ring
Shame that thing doesn't carry over between resets like its BS1 equivalent does.

>>3831794
its BS2 equivalent, I meant

>>3831628 (OP)
Any non-h ges similar to black souls 2 where the endgame combat is a complicated cheesefest

>>3831809
Bravely Default.

Alright, got the end D boss without using goat rings.
>Andor Sword +10
>Dusk Crown Ring
>Squishy
>Ring of White Crow
>Calamity Ring

Might take a few tries, but all you have to do is Power Within + Evade, then if you survive (and still have PW), double Soul Discharge will do the job.

>>3831809
Labyrinth of touhou 2.

>>3831818
God I had to stop playing that game with how reliant on cheese lategame became

Demonbeast Jeanne was pretty difficult. Similar idea to >>3831773 but using the Rapunzel ring. Make sure to have Preraise on at all times, dung pie and evade until she's poisoned, then fairy powder and evade until she falls asleep. Once she's asleep, get double fairy wing ASAP (doing it before runs the risk of it getting wasted because of all the resurrections you have to go through) then double fairy powder. If the powder has effect at the beginning of her turn (you see the fell asleep message), don't use it on her during the rest of her turn, in order to save on powders.

>>3831921
>I'm struggling against basic bosses and some guy does them level 1 with no allies.

>>3832004
I was like you too once, this isn't my first time playing either of the BS games. I just took the Steam release as the opportunity to do a proper SL1 run. Anyway, at the bottom of it all are some very basic ideas that will improve your game tremendously if you are aware of them, so I'm going to spoiler them because I know how fun it is for a beginner to form his own playstyle instead of conforming to tried and true methods.
>speed is your single most important stat, but at the same time don't overdo it; you more or less only need enough speed to have the first turn in the battle (with some exceptions if the enemy won't attack straight away) and enough turns to make progress between enemy turns
>timing is key, learn when the enemy is about to hit and parry (in the early game, later on most enemies will bypass it) or evade; evasion has 100% success rate (unless you're facing an unavoidable attack) and it trivialises your gameplay

>>3831765
Now with receipts.

>>3832004
this is a puzzle game, don't forget

Haven't been in these threads for a couple years now, what's the current consensus on the Dodgson/Grimm debate? I'm curious if people have started to agree with the Nips or if most people here still think it was Dodgson at the tea party.

>>3832080
Wasn't it clear thats grimm?
Dodgson has no physical apperance, we only see his soul

>>3831633
Pepper game.

>>3831628 (OP)
I doodled this

>>3832183
It's very cute and I would have sex with your drawing. Good job

>>3831633
Bunny game

>>3832101
Nta but wasn't the tea party before MS arrived? I thought the rabbit accidentally caused Mary Sue to become aware of their little world with his petty little wish. Why would it be Grimm then?

I colored it now.

>>3832281
dinah is so pretty

>>3832183
I had forgotten to color the hearts

>>3832080
If it's not Lewis, then I'm going with the wild card of option C, (You) as Mr. XXX. I really doubt it's not Lewis though.
>Carroll and Alice's love story will never end
>TCO also canonically believes they're Alice due to getting lost in the role of Alice
>>3832232
Yes, the Tea Party takes place before BS1 happens.

>>3832183
>>3832291
Based drawfren

>>3832291
>>3832183
Cute cat

>>3831649
>>3832042
Holy shit

Joe knowing Black Souls was like a splash of cold water to my face. That guy likes his hentai games, no doubt

>>3832486
Who?

https://files.catbox.moe/6cl2xw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/8dh2cv.png
I saw anon post these on /v/

>>3832490
>he doesn't know Joe

>>3832500
Don't open for me.

>>3832501
Cotton-Eyed Joe? I don't know where he comes from or where he goes, and that I'd be married long ago if it wasn't for him.

>>3832232
Mary sue made grimm, she just kinda let TCO use him before she got bored and prayer master popped up, its stated quite often that grimm is "mary sue best creation", and shes also the one that took Lewis soul, Lewis never was the main soul in grimm

>>3832292
Because it is Carroll and Alices love story but that doesnt change a thing that Carroll is a part of grimm ever since he stepped in wonderland

>>3832101
It depends on your intepretation of the last memory fragment. You could either see it as Grimm in the real world and point to the absence of any memories of who he is but you could also make an argument that it's Dodgson suffering from amnesia after the building he was in collapsed on him. Mary was also the one to answer Dodgson's wish, while TCO was the one to answer Alice Hargreave's, which might indicate Mary got to him first. This doesn't explain why Mary would just let Grimm run free in the waking world instead of keeping him in Elysium since Dodgson would've had to have been mind fucked there in order to be a part of Grimm.

I'm personally of the belief that TCO was able to get to Dodgson before Mary. The memory fragments show that when a Great One enters into reality it causes the world to go to shit, which would explain Dodgson waking up under a pile of rubble after summoning Mary instead of instantly being kidnapped by her to Elysium. Grimm being the one at the tea party would mean that Mary let him go back to reality for some reason only for him to then be stolen by TCO and taken to Wonderland which doesn't make much sense for Mary to do.

>>3832628
>The memory fragments show that when a Great One enters into reality it causes the world to go to shit, which would explain Dodgson waking up under a pile of rubble
Reality looking fucked up in the last flame isn't because of TCO being summoned, it's because TCO got their ass handed to them and bled all over the fucking planet on their fall down to the Earth. The most likely reason why is a Ghoul, specifically the first one that was made and who is cited as a god hunter.

>>3832655
Interesting. Milton must have a grudge against Nyarly. First he sends a god hunter to murder it, then he tries to invade its garden with his ghouls.

>>3831631
>Hehehe look guys I posted the funny image again

>>3832291
good cat, helpful against horrors
good drawfied, helpful against infinity wait

>no night sky
>wrong kind of panties
Why even bother drawing?

pretty specific ask but, anyone have a build for Miranda? (including fashion, especially fashion)
one minor fix for this, use rotten greataxe instead, may require jar not erd2 to remain light roll. (and no knife in slot 2, hardswap only)

>>3832959
Black Souls cosplay Elden Ring playthrough with a bro....

My SL1 setup for the Black Judge achievement.
>Andor Sword +10
>Leaf's Ring
>Ring of White Crow
>Calamity Ring
>Ring of Reckless Warrior

The boss might seem like a walkover at first because you can just use mirrors to reflect magic attacks and do your own attacks (although she has a physical attack that can also trigger at random, so Preraise is still a necessity), but then the second phase kicks in, and you're going to have to survive more unavoidable attacks than you can tank, killing you. So how do you deal with that? By one-shotting phase 2 in the same turn you finish phase 1 off. And for that you need loads of magic. Speed is thankfully a secondary concern (300 should be enough to either get first turn, or if you're lucky enough, not get attacked). Every turn you will be using magic mirrors as the first of yor actions. The second action will be, in order: Preraise, Power Within, White and Sticky, White and Sticky, Divine Blessing. Next turn you will be shooting a double Soul Discharge, and the first should take phase 1 out, while the second will nuke phase 2.

How the fuck do I enter DLC3 for BS2? I got all of the endings beforehand and after ending G. It plopped me back into Library Dream Do I have to loop again to get access to DLC3 content?

>>3833027
Yeah. And you have to beat the old king again.

>>3833028
Is it worth it beelining to kill JubJub right away for the DLC content?

>>3833033
Idk, I do it every loop out of principle.

>>3833035
Also where do you buy Souls of the Outer One? I know you get them from Mabel but she isn't selling them to me.

>>3833037
She should be selling them before each boss fight.
Also get strong before DLC3. I am on 999 lvl and 20-40k stats and still can get killed very quickly there if I am not thinking.

>>3833027
>Do I have to loop again to get access to DLC3 content?
No, go to Carroll River.

>>3833028
You just have to talk to Mabel and have her tell you that you can open her doors.

>>3833057
Oh really?
I repeated the 200 layers of mabelslop for nothing then.

>>3833058
You should still do DLC 2 once for the lore dump at the bottom if nothing else, but otherwise if you can/have already beat the Old King you're pretty much DLC 3 ready.

>>3833028
You don't have to defeat old king to access dlc3 but you should beat it to understand what's going on during the Crimean Nursing Graveyard section.

>>3833056
None of the enemies show up in Carroll River on both the timeline where I finished end G and the one where I looped and did NG+. I did meet Mabel and Node had some dialogue about her so I'm pretty lost right now.

>>3833077
After G you should be back in Wonderland, and it should be a straight shot to DLC 3, no additional cycling involved. Only thing I can think of is that you have an outdated version of the game if you don't see something like pic related.

>>3833080
Yeah seems like the case... I got this version of the game a couple of years ago with the assumption that all of the DLCs were in it. Am I fucked?

>>3833082
You're going to have to get yourself an updated version of the game, but I'm pretty sure you should be able to port your save over to it.

>>3833069
Aren't the doors closed if you don't tho?

>>3833084
Alright thanks. Thank god my old saves work for this game. Time to grind for a couple of hours to get my stats up to par.

>>3833088
you only have to talk to mabel to unlock the door

>>3833041
>>3833097
What he suggested is overkill. DLC is about puzzle fights and buffing, not stats. Enemies do %HP damage on some attacks so you can't even fully outlevel it barring oneshotting them, but suggested level ranges (regarding boss HP and attacks that don't scale with your HP) would, imo, be:
>low level: ~3000 stats
>normal level: 5000 stats
>cheese level: 10000 stats

This is because you typically need to pass the Luck check on the old king's reflection breaks, and 10k stats is what EMMM suggests in the readme as panacea to being bad and struggling too much with the content.

Lilith setup, but this does include the Calamity Ring, which is obtained by beating the much more difficult Caramille. She's beatable without this ring, I've done it before in my first cycle, but this setup will finish the job in just a few turns. Spend your first turn freezing her or putting her to sleep (evading or withstanding won't do shit, her attack bypasses both), then buff your magic and Soul Discharge. This one uses the Andor Sword +10.

>Ring of Iron Maiden doesn't carry between cycles
Gay. But at least there are no consequences for just keeping the ring when you get it and not returning it.

>>3833027
>How the fuck do I enter DLC3 for BS2?
Talk to Mabel at the entrance of the Chaos Dungeon, get Ending G, go to Carroll River from Ox Ford, walk south and take the first turn to the right.

>>3833028
>you have to beat the old king again.
No, you don't.

>>3833097
>Time to grind for a couple of hours to get my stats up to par.
Jsyk, it can be cleared at SL1.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbz4RFZkg4brWKepga5rzxjvIEhd3a6k3

It has been done.

Is there any way to make strength builds good in BS1?

>>3833204
blood axe or dueling shield

Is there any way to sort items on BS2?
I got to the point where I eat a ton of buffing items instead of using spells and it bothers me how they are all over the place instead of neatly grouped together.

>>3832042
It is unlikely for Elma to be the sole culprit.
Not because she wouldn't do it, but because she uses them as ingredients so there wouldn’t be enough for Liz to bathe in.
I could see it being a combination of Elma's ingredients, random beasts leftovers and Grimm's used cumrags.

So are you supposed to fight Winter Warrior/Witch before entering DLC3? Because how the fuck someone beats them at SL1 without buffing your stats to the highest degree I don't understand. They hit 3-4 times my health bar in one turn. That's with basically every buff, four black rabbit rings and Margaret covenant.

Sometimes when I stack buffs I seem to luck out and not die and decimate half their HP but otherwise even with Requiem/Grit/Indignation I still die.

>>3833283
Okay I managed to get Winter warrior down to half and he one shots me despite still having requiem up so I imagine he dispels it with his attack.

The game would be a lot better if you could actually see how many turns you have left/how many buffs you have without there being so many you can't even see the rest.

>>3833283
those two are special technically
if you kill them, they'll disappear from somewhere else
there are other roaming winter warrior groups and winter witch groups, but that one that has both are special I guess

>Even if you're a boy, I still love you
>You sicken me(Red text)
Where is the you do you but that is not for me option?

>>3833204
They are good, just not as good as 4 dusk crown rings and the catalyst

>>3833298
By not interacting with him.

>>3833298
You're long past the point of a response like that.

What's the softcap in stats in BS1?

>>3833384
19998 I think, not super high.

I'm still spooked by how much prayer can fuck you over in this setting. One random desperate prayer to literally anyone who will answer and poof, eternal suffering. Would you guys knock on the door?

>>3833097
Oh by the way see those two guys?
They are the semi-final boss
And normal mooks

Be careful of what you wish for...

>>3833298
Stop being a fencesitter faggot and just pick either option

>>3833526
The fence being so thick that your only choice is to fall in one of two equally retarded extremes is why politics have gone to shit.

You bastards lie to me you said the princess rings carry over cycles.

>>3833612
They're key items you get from forming covenants with each of them.
Why would you think they do carry over, silly Goose?

>>3833625
Silly dodo*

Despite mock turtle reminding me about lateral thinking puzzles which I enjoy a lot, I don't like mock turtle or griffy

>>3833639
Absolute garbage

>>3833642
Yeah, I don't like 3D stuff either.

>>3833639
Please stop using MMD and get a real 3D editor.

>>3833639
This>>3833743
Use Koikatsu.

>>3833612
Who said that? they are like the one meaningful thing that doesn't carry over.

>>3833754
Traitorous Rabbit Ring doesn't carry over either.

>>3833747
Kill yourself

>>3833812
>kill yourself
Tee-hee

Card p-please...?

>>3833809
I assume it was for balance reasons.
The rings that don't get carried would break the game pretty hard if you could stack them, well the rings other than Cinderella's.

>>3833851
If balance was supposed to be the reason, I don't see the point. By the time you're in NG+, you've almost certainly broken the game regardless. Not a very high ceiling.
I think it's meant to reflect that the rings are like "key items." The princess rings unlock the castle door and the rabbit ring unlocks ending D.

>>3832004
A lot of Grimm's equipment is hilariously OP. When BS2 comes out, take on the asylum boss without the storm ruler, then do it again with the storm ruler, even at SL1 it completely shreds her.

>>3833891
You could argue the goat ring does that already.

Is BS2 SL1-able without clocks?

>>3833967
I don't use clocks on my SL1 run

>>3833967
Never use clocks. The secretly indebt you to Node.

>>3834063
I already pay the slut for them.

>>3834064
>slut
Seething octopus

>>3834063
You can't own a debt to something that belongs to you.

>>3834178
Cute bu too healthy looking, Node's hair and body need to be way closer in color than that.

>>3834063
I thought the Node Betrayal would be the last straw
About Uragiri Alice I already had my doubts.
I saw the second Leaf betrayal coming from far away but it was fucked up how I was forced to betray Red earlier
The Mabel betrayal at the very end was the real last straw. I just couldn't go on. Why the fuck did I keep falling for it.
Are males simply designed that way?

>>3834416
>Node Betrayal
What?

What do people usually do while going for all ending?
Save abuse or 10+ NG+s as intended?

>>3834430
It's when you finish a basic run with all covenants maxed.

>>3833891
If you already have the Traitorous Rabbit Ring then realistically nothing else in the game can beat you anyway, you might as well keep it. The fight to get that ring is arguably much harder than the fight that comes after.

>>3834435
It's not a betrayal though, she's just showing you what's really going on

>>3834519
F

>>3831628 (OP)
I randomly decided to look at the reviews in the steam page and I saw this one specifically. And I realised that this specific fucking guy literally posted the same issues in a /v/ thread a day after the release complaining about the very same issues and then proceeded to shill sequel. That shit's so fucking funny

>>3832959
*
bumping my ask, I cannot be the only person left making cameo builds, pls.

>>3834519
In a row?

>>3834434
NG+3 or so, yeah. That's how it was designed, so that's what you should do. People using walkthroughs are robbing themselves. I've witnessed a friend going into the second game fully blind, and he figured out the endings A-G by the end of NG+3 (fourth run). Replying new NG+'s takes no time at all, too.
BS1 is worse about that, though several of the fairy tales people used to think were missable (Belle, Goose) are actually not, and the only one you can fuck up easily is Jeanne's, meaning you can get ends B,C,D on NG+0 easily. You do need an NG+1 or a few hints to get end A legitimately, though. Elma's quest is way too timing sensitive.

>>3834434
The endings themselves aren't hard to do in black souls 1 since after each char ending and ending a and b you just get respawned in the holy forest. C is a bit trickier since you need to do some thing that can't be undone until you fully go into a new game plus. Ending d is easy enough to do as well though

>>3834559
I was browing reviews two days ago and found this one.
Is this some copypasta or did this guy just watched BS2 gameplay and decided to buy BS1 to make a review without even playing it?

>>3834612
There are several negative reviews like that. Might be the world's least effective raid, but they did get it down to "very positive".

>>3834559
same fag?

>>3834658
Most likely

For a SL1 run is it fine to run through the game to buy/gather all the shit, not giving a fuck about Jabberwock etc
Reaching 10 candles and just resetting by losing to Alice, or winning, doesnt matter
Or does that make the base game too easy?

>>3834705
An ending is an ending, so long as you follow the whole SL1 no colored souls shit anything else is extra.

>>3834442
Which is betrayal
Just because she lets you in on it, doesnt mean she hasnt been keeping massive secrets from you.
>Oh btw, we kidnapped you and are holding you here against your will btw
>Oh thats fine, i dont feel a bit offended about it now that you told me! Please, keep me locked up here against my will more!

>>3834705
Wait for the Steam version to come out first at this point so you can do both SL1 and achievements at the same time.

>F/G ending requirements in BS2
Christ. There's no way anyone actually found this shit on their own. Even if you do end up experimenting with SEN 0 early game to unlock the later stuff, there's no clues after that what all the flags are or how many you have to collect, nor anything hinting at the hidden trigger to get into the route once you have everything. What was the dev thinking?

>>3834716
>There's no way anyone actually found this shit on their own.
But I did? Granted, it took multiple cycles and then a replay of BS1 for the final piece to click.

>>3834716
He wasnt
People will however keep replying to this by saying "But i did it" "It is completely logical" it isnt
The only one that is logical is the press x/escape
The rest are completely arbitrary

>>3834719
>logical
By that i mean, the game hints at it
The game does not hint at any other shit you are required to do to even unlock the possibility of the major hint even working.
You could go through the game, figure out that part of the thing by yourself, and nothing will happen, which would make anyone not try that again, with the requirements

>>3834719
>>3834721
Yeah, it wouldn't be as bad if there was at least some in-game signposting somewhere. The game already has the torches for the progress meter, and the first game had the library for C ending. The dev could have had something similar for Red Riding Hood meetings, memory orbs and Leaf's ring (maybe a secret room you could access?), followed by something cryptic hinting you to go back to very beginning after you've met all the requirements.

>eroge
>cosmic horror
>soulslike
>based off of works everyone is already familiar with, but more spoopier and lovescraftian
>made in rpgmaker
It’s like the dev created this game in a lab to be sovl. Forced sovl.

>>3834716
>What was the dev thinking?
To breaking it down: You need to do a 0 SEN run and find the trigger. That's the whole puzzle.
The first part is obvious after exploring the game normally and realizing what SEN is, while the latter has a major hint in game. The mechanic is also relevant in other spots in BS1/2, such as Bander's test in BS1 and cancelling the sleeping Node scene in BS2. There is just one bullshit part to the puzzle, and it's what the other anons said about there being no feedback for getting the requirements done. That's something you can easily get unlucky with, if you try to do it before the other things and find that it doesn't work.

The requirements themselves are not some gigabrain puzzle. You will naturally get all of them done by simply finishing a run at 0 SEN. Despite several old BS2 guides saying otherwise, you don't even need to meet Red at every bonfire, get the mark, etc. There should be a progress mark of some kind communicating to you that you're eligible after you've met all the conditions like >>3834723 says, but the rest of the end F/G puzzle isn't nearly as hard to figure out as some people make it out to be.

>>3834707
>she hasnt been keeping massive secrets from you.
Node can't say anything because TCO will notice it and restart the loop. Which is what happened in the B ending.
>Oh btw, we kidnapped you and are holding you here against your will btw.
How can you betray someone you don't know? Grimm was literally a stranger to her, and TCO offered her a good deal, so she took it. Over the course of a dozen cycles, Node began to empathize with Grimm and began to actively help him. She helped Red multiple times and brought her to Wonderland, she schemed with Mabel and Prickett, she even gave up her garden and White Queen status to get your ass out of Wonderland. Yes, she hoped Grimm to stay with her, but she didn't ever force you to. This choice was entirely in your hands as your happiness and freedom was her priority. Sometimes you have to let go of someone you love. That's what she learns in the H ending

>>3834753
Do you have a link or something to the whole tarot made like this?

>>3834757
https://www.pixiv.net/users/9732575

>>3834716
I almost got it playing blindly went for the gut punch in ng+ since the ring did nothing on first playthrough, and there's a tip to cancel dialogue when you interact with one of oneesan's snowmen

Prickett owes me sex.

>>3831628 (OP)
is there a game like black souls (besides starfield) where ng+ plays a role in the story?

>>3834811
Not quite what you are asking but the Shadow Heart games ends on a canon ng+ run
First game bad ending is the canon, at the end of the second game the protagonist goes back to the beginning of the first game and then he reaches that game's happy end.

>>3834761
Thanks, those are wonderful.

>>3834811
There's npc dreams, it's another solo dev. It's very black souls 1 esque in terms of quality. Essentially seeking like the dev was still figuring things out a bit. I think I recall hearing it's getting extra contact or dlc or something, assuming the dev didn't quit since then.

>>3834783
>posted literally today
>already compressed by >5x and with a nonsense filename
The artist can also be blamed for the jpg, but at least don't make it worse.

>>3834850
That one posted earlier is the Twitter version, and they tend to downsize larger files.

>>3834811
airy's game

>>3834811
Drakengard series
ZeroRanger
Void Stranger
Slay the Princess
DDLC
Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi

>>3834811
And I forgot this one.

>>3834612
The funniest thing is that we all know that Grimm is the most-raped character in the series by a landslide. They're slut-shaming a guy who is being tortured by eldritch gods.

I saw what you did, you little shits.

>>3835026
Kino...

>>3831633
this this so much this

>>3831628 (OP)
when will dead red hood finally release fucking silksong got out before it

>>3835229
Two more years

>>3834612
>but for sexual offenders that haven't commited their first crime yet
So, sexual offenders but you remove the offenders part? That just leaves sexual.

>>3831633
Birds Aren't Very Important.

>>3835268
Birds are very important.

I forgot to lit the crash chamber bonfire during ng+ and proceeded to convince myself that I bricked my whole game from everything in the upper area of the pond of bloody tea.
I didn't die once during the run and thought you needed to reach the library through the long way on ng+.
It was not until I reloaded my save from before ng+ and played until I reached the bridge with the furry red hood that I realised my stupidity, not long after I remembered the elevator in the wharf too.
Then I met Victoria and realised how deep my retardation ran. the fact I didn't forget about the bonfire but that it doesn't exist until you lit the one in the library was just the final salt into the wound.

>>3834811
Bravely Default, Soul Nomad There is an impossible boss fight early game that you can kill on NG+ which leads you down the bad guy route.

I kind of wish the games were better balanced, or maybe ditched leveling altogether and instead relied solely on gear and skill unlock-based progression. After early game encounters feeling like somewhat fair, both games' fights either tend to turn into complete pushovers or you getting turned into paste in a single turn, with a few exceptions in between assuming you end up encountering content at the intended level. The more interesting fights already rely on having the right gear and skills for the encounter rather than brute forcing with stats, so it'd be cool if the game in general could be more like that.

>>3835601
I think that being able to completely break several fights with overpowered bullshit and stats is part of the fun.

>>3835607
I agree but missing a dialogue for one-shotting a boss fights still feels bad though..

>>3835601
its perfectly balanced
otherwise sl1 would be impossible, like in sequel

>>3834716
This drawing of chick looks like that isn't chest tuft but instead armpit hair to me

Any tips for not!Kalameet SL1? Where the hell do you get Preraise?

In a few more words, I've been doing BS1 SL1, and while most of the game has been very fun, these last few bosses are really pushing it. The hardest things I've killed are Prayer Master and Elizabeth. Currently getting my ass kicked by the Black Dragon in the DLC area.

My setup evolved through the run, but tl;dr I went from the Dagger to Storm Ruler, using resin stacking and crestfallen's ring—and Broken Shackles in case of Storm Ruler—to kill bosses from 51% HP to 0 in a turn or two to skip their undodgeable phase 2 attacks. Most bosses are completely harmless >50% HP (Behemoth, Prayer Master, even Ellie) if you just Evade every turn.
The issue is that the dragon gets his unavoidable shiny eye attack already in phase 1, and can do it twice in a row (popping Withstand, which is the usual counter), and he also requires the anti-debuff ring for the fight which cuts my damage in half, making any rushing attempts completely dead in the water. I remember Preraise, but I don't remember where it was found. I got the boss to ~40% once, but I don't really want to retry for an hour more, praying for no 2x Eye. He's also immune to Sleep cheese.

I remember at least one anon doing it a week or two ago itt, but I don't want to cheat and look up the full solution.
Picrel is my default Storm Ruler setup, for this boss I had to swap Broken Shackles for Undefeatable.

>>3836020
>I remember at least one anon doing it a week or two ago itt
Yes hi that's me.
>Where the hell do you get Preraise?
Somewhere in Elixir, can't remember the exact location. I think it might be a dead end near Hein's shop.

I love Chick, I wish I could carry her around Wonderland for the longest times I kept thinking something bad would happen to her if I let her be and it stressed me out.

>>3836071
take candy

>>3836071
>>3836079
Forgot image

>>3836081
Now why would you do that to your wife

>>3836068
Thanks anon, I'll look for it tomorrow. Were you able to clear all bosses? Off the top of my head, ___Mary's phase 2 might be annoyingly fast with the meteors, and the boss is probably immune to Sleep as well.
Semi-related, this is the first time I went back to the candy crow late enough to see her dead. You learn something new every run.

>>3836081
I think I've been pretty desensitized to most shit, but Chick's scenes made me feel legit horrible in a way I haven't managed to feel in a while.

>>3836087
>Were you able to clear all bosses?
Yes, and I never used the goat ring for any of them. (this is a half lie; I beat the goat using the goat ring, then I saw it was too easy so I did it again without).
>Off the top of my head, ___Mary's phase 2 might be annoyingly fast with the meteors, and the boss is probably immune to Sleep as well.
I don't remember how I dealt with it, but after Alice bails your ass you really have nothing to worry about.
>late enough to see her dead.
Didn't know that was a thing.

>>3835255
FUCK birds
Lorde in particular

>>3834811
Lobotomy Corporation
Undertale

>>3836299
Is..... is that MY RABBIT WIFE NODE???!!!
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEE
HELP ME HARMONIE

Haven't played BS2 in like 4 years and wanted to do it again, can someone remind me what the best path to JubJub was for the start of a cycle? I remember to ofc avoid the bridge but I cant remember if it was mental ward first or head east

>>3831628 (OP)
decided to try out this game, guessing the steam version is sanitized and I'd need to install an additional patch to experience the full game?

>>3836454
The game is literally broken without the patch.

>>3836458
I see, checked the website and neither google drive nor dropbox links work for me. what do?

>>3836448
You need Mental Ward for the ring anyway.

>>3836459
this one 100% works for me

>>3836459
nvm, found a way to do it

Lmao, played the steam version for a few minutes, was a bit empty, but nothing seemed too odd, installed the patch and actually got access to the blacksmith. What kinda joke is steam trying to pull? kek

>>3836462
thats what I figured then straight to the uni, wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy and missing a vital step

>>3836580
If you care about the furry bunny whore, you should go through the Lutwidge->Park of Fog->Upper Lutwidge path to Ox Ward. I think that's one or two progression points more than the minimum, but this way she won't die.

>black souls is supposedly mainstream
>only 3 black souls vtubers
doom posters explain

>>3836676
There's three?

>>3836596
You need to enter the tavern to trigger her death, you have all the time in the world to kill Jack as long as you avoid going there while he is still alive.

>>3836679
kaiju
arisu (grifter)
johann (/v/fag)

Does anyone have the original soundtrack of BS2? I can't find it anywhere and I want to replace the most recent's edition's audio files

At which level should I attempt the knight with 6 archer niggas boss fight at fort ivern? I'm currently 20 with leaf at 19

>>3836928
Levels don't really matter, but you could try exploring other places like the ranch for a bit if you feel underleveled. I'd call the knight there the barrier to the midgame, you should be able to kill it sooner than later.

>>3836939
Thanks, I completely forgot about the ranch

>>3836758
Who are these posers? Tenma is the only one and the original.

Did I misunderstand something about Kuti's character or was her really supposed to come off as someone that doesn't really care about Grimm.
It always felt like she was looking at some imaginary prince instead of him, at least as long as you don't rape her and break that disillusion.

>>3837004
She really does not give a shit about Grimm, and has no reason to either. Only time she actually starts to care about him is when she's literally driven insane post-birdening and after you've fucked her already, and even then she does it more with the intent of eventually getting revenge on her family.

>>3837004
her dad really fucked her up

HELP I THINK TCO INVADED ANOTHER GAME ON MY COMPUTER

>>3836448
>can someone remind me what the best path to JubJub was for the start of a cycle?
Mental Ward -> Upper Lutwidge -> Ox Ford -> Endless Tea Party -> Clock Tower.
You kill 2 birds heh with 1 stone, you save Mary to collect all her scenes legit (if you care about that) and then deal with Jubjub by Progress 4.

>>3836470
Otaku Plan broke the game and placed most of the content in the files they shared as a patch.
They did a poor job desu.

>>3837066
>>3836448
Actually Progress 6 or so. I forgot about The Dean and Bright Star.
Uh... Edith, Reaching Upper Lutwidge, Jack, Dean, Star and then dealing with JubJub will increase your Progress but by that point it doesn't matter anymore, so yeah, Progress 5-6.

>>3837062
every game should have horror segments

>>3837066
Park of Fog counts as a progression point if I'm not mistaken, taking the Kidnapper to the Slaughterhouse and from there going up along Carroll River to Oxward should save you a point.

>>3837072
It's entering Upper Lutwidge that increases your Progress, but yeah.
Also the Slaughterhouse route has you kill the butcher which increases your progress, so there's no saving points anywhere there.

>>3837078
>>3837072
Oh wait, it clicked.
My bad, I'm dumb as shit.
Edith -> Butcher -> Dean -> Bright -> JubJub as opposed to Edith -> Upper Lutwidge -> Jack -> Dean -> Bright -> JubJub.
You're right, that's definitely faster.

Where in 1 do you get the Frozen Ice Bullet or whatever the spell name is, the one that does ice damage 3 times. Both wikis say it's in the frozen garden but for the life of me I can't find it.

>>3837078
>>3837080
Yeah, you save a point with the Butcher route because Upper and Jack are 2 points, Butcher is just 1. The problem is in NG+ you might be too strong for the kidnapper to kill without travelling to the library and cranking up the difficulty

>>3837004
She has no reason to give a shit about you, shes a hostage
Infact basically almost all the supporting cast wouldnt have a reason to give a shit about you, but most of them do because theyve gotten screwed(heh) so hard they broke like Jubjub who apparently you fucked so much she actually started giving a shit about you and prioritized your escape over her own
Some characters probably dont give a shit about you except your cock (Oyster, & probably Jabber, cant trust that bitch)
Then theres Bandersnatch who nobody knows much about and people claim shes a schemer

>>3837202
>The problem is in NG+ you might be too strong for the kidnapper to kill without travelling to the library and cranking up the difficulty
Your all stats to 1% ring, bro?

>>3831628 (OP)
I commissioned this :)

>>3837549
Nice

>>3837549
cute hag

Quick question cuz I forgot how this was done. In BS1, how do you access the ocean part of the world? I know we need an item that opens it up, but where do I even get it?

>>3837575
you need an invitation paper, it's in snow white's castle

>>3837596
Damn, can't believe I forgot about that. Thanks

Playing the patches steam release of BS1 and how do I actually start a new loop. I remember there was a crystal or something that appears next to the difficulty statue where you can start a new loop, but it's not appearing even though I've beaten Cinderella and completed an ending. Am I missing a step or something? I didn't realize I forgot so much about the game over the years

>>3837616
nevermind, I'm an idiot. The new loop crystal is slightly to the left of where I thought

Towards the end of the game 4 old ones are mentioned and associated with the 4 elements, I fogor who they are, anyone remembers them? Besides Cthulhu (water) which i know of.

>>3837784
Nobody knows anything for sure besides big C.

>>3837784
It's unfortunately taking from Derleth's dogshit contribution to the mythos.

How many daughters do you guys think actually made it out?

>>3837840
At least everyone in Winterbell, and I'd bet more than that. I believe in Heinrich.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3095513850
I can't get this pos to work, does anyone know where I can find all the cards as images so I can print them irl to be socially ostracised by my peers?

>>3837784
That's equivalent to not understanding why Carnacki the stock sprite was prime anti-niggerman weapon.
Sloppily made fanfiction that reveals the original for all it ever was.

>>3837923
>That's equivalent to not understanding why Carnacki the stock sprite was prime anti-niggerman weapon.
No idea what you are talking about.

Anything I should doodle?

>>3838411
Should go without saying but for the mentally retarded: black souls related only

>>3838411
Pic related, but replace the top image with Leaf and Grimm, and bottom with Grimm and Alices.

>>3835659
miranda is so cute as always

>>3838411
Kuti

>>3838411
Elma stuffing fairies in a blender

The bosses in the chaos dungeon feel oddly weak.
Up to Red Hood's granny in the 79th layer and it still died in a single normal hit.
Random enemies in non-boss floors put up a better fight than the bosses.

>>3838619
The dungeon is more about depths than layers. 79 layers mean you're only at depth 2 or 3. Depth 9 is where the bosses put up a fight.

>>3838411
Dodo teaching other Dodos

>>3835601
It's just the nature of RPG Maker's default formulae. Attack scales at an insane pace compared to defense.

>>3836758
>kaiju
Kaiju-Musume Asparas?

>>3837897
Have you tried looking into the workshop item files after downloading it?

What is the deal with Bandersnatch's weapon skill?
Description says that it should change and do massive damage at 9 uses but I tried and it did nothing.
A good 15 uses in a row for no effect

>>3839267
You can only build 1 stack per turn IIRC, like a poor man's God's Angels.

>>3839267
one of the sl1 ones showcases how to use it very well
each turn use rage once and the rest of your actions can be anything else
it aoe oneshots at 9

A few BS1 questions since I'm trying to get all the achievements on the steam version
1. How do I fight Demon Beast Jeanne and Catherine? What triggers them into becoming demon beasts?
2. What makes Elizabeth a demon beast as well? I think it has to do with not recovering her ring, but I've left her for a while and she still hasn't turned
3. Where does demon beast Hansel or Gretel run off to when you don't pick them?

>>3839393
>1. How do I fight Demon Beast Jeanne and Catherine? What triggers them into becoming demon beasts?
Someone else asked this in the previous thread.
For Catherine you have to reach Progress 4 or higher while she's on Elixir's Cathedral.
For Jeanne you have to revive and recruit her, and then talk to her with 10 Sins or more. She'll move to Lost Empire.

>What makes Elizabeth a demon beast as well?
Red Hood walking to her and saying "Hi."
Once you recruit Red, after you give Elizabeth her ring back, she'll ask if you think she should try to talk to Elizabeth or not.
Tell her to talk to Elizabeth if you want Elizabeth to turn into a demonbeast.

>3. Where does demon beast Hansel or Gretel run off to when you don't pick them?
The map right below Dorothy's house in the Forest of Abandoned iirc.

Can you really not have sex with Cheshire?

>>3839421
You can, but you gotta get end G first I think

>>3839419
Thanks. Even when I first played it 5 years ago I still missed a bunch of this stuff. Never fought demon beast Jeanne before, so that's pretty cool that it exists. I wonder when BS2 is gonna drop on steam. If it's within a month or so I'll just wait to play it, but otherwise I'm just gonna play my own copy since I am feeling the itch to play it again

>>3839429
Do SL1 when it drops on Steam.

>done a few runs of BS2
>decide it's time to rapemax
>jumpscared at bonfire
The legitimately terrified me holy shit

>>3839536
Don't rape the trap.

>>3839536
Deserved.

>>3839536
I usually skip him on my rape dungeon runs, It both keeps the rattening from happening and the jumpscares.

Is Dorothy really a guy who transformed himself into a girl or is she a girl who thinks she is a guy transformed into a girl?

>>3839616
The latter.

>>3839629
NTA, but my erection is retroactively ruined.

>>3839638
Andersen...

>>3839629
Safe
The whole thing with a god barely succeeding in making Bill look feminine made me wonder if it was not just Leaf fucking with her head.

>>3839616
I don't know but i'd stick my dick in it

Why is Dorothy so special?
Barely any of the other BS1 girls get as much content as her in BS2.

>>3839697
Popularity?
I’m more curious about why Jeanne got so neglected.
A book hidden in the back of a waterfall is such a downgrade from the first girl you meet.
I guess Alice couldn't deal with a superior blonde hanging around

I'm going to save Dorothy.

>>3839616
Bookcase in her house in BS2 would indicate that she's done the gender bender a few times.

>>3839616
Dorothy is a schizophrenic who doesn't even know anymore what it was originally.

>>3838469
not that anon but I figure'd I'd sketch some of the things cause why not. Slowly.

>>3839616
>transformed himself into a girl
I think it's more likely that she was turned against her will in order to suit X or Y role in a garden, be it Leaf's or some other Great Old One's.

>is she a girl who thinks she is a guy transformed into a girl
She's a girl who doesn't remember her original gender anymore.
If the files at the Mental Ward are to be believed though, she was originally a girl.

>>3839892
>If the files at the Mental Ward are to be believed
That's a pretty big "if." Their files on Jack don't tell you his true origin, either. I think the Dorothy stuff in the ward may have happened after BS1, like how all the other BS1 girls got warped or screwed over after being summoned in Wonderland.

LOVE stock assets and ESL MTL translations. LOVE MS Paint amateur art. Just love it. This is simply speaking, the greatest series of all time.

>>3839892
>If the files at the Mental Ward are to be believed though, she was originally a girl.
I went to check the original Japanese text and Dorothy isn't referred to by any gendered pronoun such as "she / her". It's natural to omit the subject of the sentence in Japanese, and third person references are often expressed with demonstrative pronouns. Only あの子 (ano ko) is used, which could be used to refer to kids of either gender. The doctor however is called クソ無能ロリコンハゲ (kuso munou rorikon hage), which'd translate to "shitty worthless lolicon baldy", i.e. Dorothy's probably a loli.

>>3839937
Addendum. I realized that the doctor's attractions to female children probably aren't necessarily referring to Dorothy, but other patients. So yeah, more vague. Regardless, Dororthy doesn't seem to be referred to as either gender in the mental ward sections in Japanese.

Is there a way to learn which directions to follow on your way to Shisha? Every time I just walk around blindly until I see Dodo's arrow.

>>3840167
Isn't it basically a logic puzzle? For example two opposite directions East and West saying
>E: Not there
>W: Not here
means you go to E sign's direction, because it's saying the direction opposite to it ("not there") is the wrong way, and W sign is also saying that W is the wrong way ("not here").

>>3840167
you just go in a spiral
E S W N

it's not a cutscene?

>>3840247
It's not.

Just got ending G and I got a question
Was this a genuine what-if ending or was it a fake-out like C from the first game?
No spoilers needed if this is something that get answered in the content that comes after I'm done with the chaos dungeon.

>>3840277
Every ending is canon.

>>3840277
>Was this a genuine what-if ending or was it a fake-out like C from the first game?
Definitely not a What If, definitely canon, and after speaking with Cheshire Cat in the dungeon you'll see it's definitely not a fake out.
The other Anon is probably right considering that BS2 starts on Grimm's 65th cycle at TCO's Wonderland.

>after I'm done with the chaos dungeon.
Jsyk, you don't need to enter the CD at all to access the DLC3 content.
Speaking with her at the entrance is good enough.
That convo where she introduces herself is all that you really need.
Picrel.

>>3839536
That's literally the last thing I do on rapemaxx runs so that I have the absolute minimum number of chances for it to happen.
That genuinely made me paranoid in bed that night when it first happened to me, as if Snake God was actually somehow going to get me irl. There's just something primal about it.

I'm now remembering that Tenma somehow got the jumpscare like 3 screens in a row.

>>3840167
When the sign says "go here", it actually means the exit across the way from that sign.

>>3839816
Kute

>>3840277
No, Ending F is the cannnon one

Where can I fight the jabberwock in black souls 1

>>3840438
Wonderland, Snow White's castle.
Upper left part of the wonderland has a door leading to "That Meadow"

I just learned that there is a movie made in my country by anglos thats about mabel

wtf is Vagina Dentata support to be

>>3840438
This took me a while too, it's the corpse at that tree in Wonderland, just say to kill it instead of getting an ultimate skill for party members.
Careful, I'd argue it's the strongest enemy in the entire game.

>>3840527
Long story short, greek myth came up with an idea to explain guys being nervous about sex by saying the vagina was literally toothed and could bite your dick off if the woman willed it.
Of course, anyone here who's either had sex or is a woman can tell you they've checked, there's no teeth.

>>3840585
>can tell you they've checked, there's no teeth.
Yeah that's what they WANT you to think

>>3840584
Far from the strongest, I SL1'd it just fine compared to other opponents. I'd say in terms of difficulty it's Caramille, then Poseidon Elizabeth (her other forms are significantly easier), then Lilith (or maybe Jeanne).

>>3840488
Movie name?

>>3840654
Really, Lilith? I think she's a fucking joke and getting to her is generally harder.

>>3840654
>>3840697
I assume SL1 difficult is different from leveled difficult.

>>3840718
90% of SL1 is in understanding how the game works and where to get items, like was said before the Storm Ruler completely shreds Edith no matter your level when in a normal blind run she will put her foot up your ass if you don't have the bunker shield.

>Mabel's panties, Hyde's shield, 4 black rabbit rings and Kuti's covenant
>Get 9 actions in a turn
I don't get it, can Mabel or Kuti trigger multiple times in a turn?
I have no idea where that last action came from if they can't.
I'm already struggling hard enough to keep track of so many action since I learned about the final weapon technique without RNG messing things up even more.

>>3840777
Andor sword?

>>3840782
I found it, it was one of the anchor's skills.
I never noticed that the speed booster also gave extra actions, it would have been nice for the skill description to mention that part.

Fuck that stupid angel for changing my game difficulty to max like that.
I struggled so much against Florence without noticing what had happened, I reloaded to before the fight after I learned about what she did it was such a joke at difficulty 0
Sure this made me realised that maybe I shouldn't play the game in such an easy difficulty level but that didn't stop me from getting a lot of joy after destroying her in combat and seeing her desperately bounce on Grimm's dick to stay alive.

Just had a friend play through BS1 whats the actual trigger for Red's raft to her house he never saw her

Every day I check the steam page to see if a date is listed. How long did it take for 1, like 2 months from announcement to release?

>>3840864
Isn't it just beating the Tower Knight? I know that's not his actual name but fuck off, it's the Tower Knight fight in Demon Souls

>>3840864
It's like Progress 5 or something early, just reach the Lost Empire gates and call it a day.

>>3840676
Castle Freak

>>3840889
>>3840893
>>3840864
The only prequesite for the boat to spawn is beating Knight in Armor

>>3840718
She has undodgeable attacks, inflicts a slew of status effects *and* has high status resistances, all on top of being too tanky to rush. Those are major problems for SL1. On leveled runs you can just nuke her before her turn, or (also due to her extremely low speed) defend+evade to survive her attacks.
Although unlike that anon I'd put Hotel Poseidon Ellie ahead of Caramilie. Black Drake requires specific setup, but is consistent with a strategy, and Ellie feels like the most random fight ever, where you have to pray that the sleep effect connects.

anyone got a download for bs2 in english with the original pre patch ost?

Man, I forgot how quiet BS1 is. Music is ridiculously rare in this game, and the main reason the music we have stands out so much is there's so little of it (mostly, I think the generic battle theme is kinda bland)

So I have Black souls 1 on my computer but is there any difference between it and the steam release?

>>3841062
F95zone

What tracks did they replace anyways?

>>3841075
The Steam version has
>different tezt font
>some fixed grammar (I've heard people say this was actually Rare Cats pushing an updated script to the DLsite version back when BS2 released, and it's not actually something Otaku Plan did, but I can't verify)
>uncensored porn CGs
>name limit of 6 characters instead of 12 for some fucking reason
Betond that it's entirely identical.

>>3841080
>uncensored porn CGs
Anyway I could transplant that into the non-steam version? It's just Grimm's dick, right?

>>3841081
I'm sure you can replace the assets but that's too much effort for what's essentially terrible porn. At least the BS2 CGs are kinda good actually.

>>3841079
Cheshire Cat's theme which is the one people actually care about.
The music for one of Lindamaea's phases, I forget which but honestly the new track sounds way better

Theres a couple more but that's the 2 I always notice

>>3841079
the list as follows. Spoilered, just in case.

>>3841080
>>name limit of 6 characters instead of 12 for some fucking reason
I hate it, now I cant give Grimm my name as it has 7 letters

>>3841096
...I am a retard, sorry. Mabel had two song replacements.

>>3841096
Nice spoiler fagoli.

Do you need Miranda for End A, considering I thought she's from the dlc

>>3841099
Oh, that's quite many.
>Deep Sea Knight
Did they at least replace the second phase with another wubwubwub song?

>>3841079
Spoiler abound, obviously. I think he changed like 20-30 tracks, but notable ones include those mentioned by >>3841094 and also:
The meme song for the Moon is ruined.
Spore Forest is different, subjective.
Prickett and Mabel are different, and both go for a much less serious sound than before, presumably to highlight it being them playing with you, not really "fighting".
Removed the Wubtrack from Carpenter's p2 only to replace it with an even more memetic song.
Dinah and Leaf are different. I dislike new Dinah for being worse at convening the despair of the situation, and new Leaf's combat theme goes way more "epic", which is subjective but imo fits her.
Half of DLC3 is different, but I haven't played it enough with both to compare. IIRC Grand Guignol also got the Prickett/Mabel treatment to tone down the epicness for a focus on the "play" part in several phases.

>>3841104
See for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnBn1BblAKs
Wubs and random rapping. It grew on me.

>>3841077
I dont want to fucking register an account tho

>>3841106
Lmao. I think I prefer the original, but glad the dev understood the wubs were an integral part of the experience.

The game is getting kinda easy, maybe I should've tried a level 1 playthrough of Black Souls 1.

>>3839536
>>3840346
>rape Bill, get jumpscared
>kill Bill, get jumpscared
>kill Snake God, get jumpscared (how does that work, who is maintaining the curse)
>no option to rape the Snake God into not wanting to curse me

>>3841118
There's pros and cons. With SL1 you're kinda limited in terms of options, playing normally you can experiment with all kinds of weapons.

>>3841127
It's my first playthrough but I've kinda got a good idea of what to do now and it has gotten pretty easy. I didn't want to try something crazy like SL1 on my first playthrough and I'm trying to limit my leveling to not go too crazy.

I drew Prickett

>>3841140
Her thigh is wider than her head.

>>3841140
Cute, and good taste!

What does SL1 mean in BS2? Some content seems impossible without the speed cap since you die before getting a turn. Do you just grind out two black goat rings and go from there? That seems easier than just playing normally.

>>3841171
>What does SL1 mean in BS2?
No levels or colored souls, the base statline you start the game with is the base statline you end your run with.
>Do you just grind out two black goat rings and go from there?
1 from Chikerost's quest is practically all you need for base game shit, or alternatively you can really scrounge around for your speed rings and other gear that boosts it until you start hitting later DLC content and then start grabbing more of them. BS2's base game isn't particularly difficult on an SL1 run unless you go out of your way to gimp yourself or have zero meta knowledge. DLC shit will require more though.
>That seems easier than just playing normally.
A RotBG nearly at the start of a new file is pretty broken, but it breaks shit that early on normal runs too. Later on you're gimping yourself pretty hard unless you like trying to farm Necronomicons to get around the 0 MP thing when a setup needs something besides the Wand of Creation, and obviously every RotBG that IIRC gives its +500 core stat and 1.2x stat boost per ring is another BRR or even WRR that you could have put on there instead.

>>3841123
>Dev knows that most heterosexual players would kill the fag trying to fool you
>Makes sure that every thing mean you can do to him leads to some sort of punishment
Fucked up.

>>3841140
Soulful image and cute. Thank you for being born into this world to create this

>>3841268
>fool you
anon, the literally first interaction with him is you seeing his balls

>>3841280
I kicked the ladder.

>>3841123
>(how does that work, who is maintaining the curse)
Me.

I think what people like about Black Souls is the the raw aspect of it. It feels real, it feels like it came out of an actual human being unlike other games you see these days on the market.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKbGjFEPXR8
Damn, when are the games gonna use this one?

>>3841509
It's one of the songs post-patch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LctQyQy9M5w

I made this to commemorate BS1's Steam release. Fun stuff

>>3841600
Great work
I want to fuck Rif

>>3841268
>Dev knows that most heterosexual players would kill the fag trying to fool you
Not the Japanese ones

>>3841600
rif...

This drake sword in Black Souls 1 kinda makes a lot of the early game pretty easy. I don't know what counts as the mid-game point but it's kinda sad all these weapons I'm getting are completely outclassed by it.

>>3841706
It's pretty easily the best "sword" in the game. The only weapons that really are worth using over it are weapons that do stuff that aren't just skills. A weapon like the Moonlight Greatsword is pretty good for the health and mana regen, or the Demon catalyst staff that doubles your magic attack power which is insane when paired with the Heavy Soul Discharge spell

don't forget to please take good care of Elma...

>>3841860
Yeah I'll make sure to care for her by fucking the fujo out of her

>>3841281
You deserve to get cursed.
Also he outright tells you he's a man, and the gate guards know he's a man. Grimm is the only one who doesn't know Bill is a man.
Also, HIS NAME IS FUCKING BILL

Fags must die.

>>3841874
Not possible. Trust me, I've tried.

>>3841971
Based put the triple handicap out of his misery

I choose to believe Lindamea comes back 2 through sheer force of will and literally nothing else. It's a good thing Grimm can't remember shit or he'd be thinking "you gotta be fucking kidding..." when he sees him on the cliff.

>>3842022
He's a man who loves his job too much to ever quit.

>Fight the vampire because it's a cheevo, never done it before
>wonder "who the fuck is Vampire"
>look it up
>do fight
>get to phase 2
>pic related

>>3842035
sometimes, dead is better

>die and lose my souls
>can just quit to menu and reload my save
I want to play by the game's rules but this is just too convenient.

>>3841969
Grimm is not the brightest...

>>3842059
So it is possible to kill every boss at level 1? Do you just grind stats?

>>3842039
honestly go ahead, the second game literally sells items that give you your souls back and theres nothing stopping you from just banking your souls here, so long as you treated the bird with love and care

... you did not the bird, right? right?

>>3842068
SL1 shit is done without the use of colored souls. Your gear matters a lot more than you might think it does.

>>3842072
Wow, that sounds super hard. You can kill every boss in Black Souls 1 like that?

>>3842074
>You can kill every boss in Black Souls 1 like that?
To my knowledge yes, though I've only bothered with 2.

>>3842074
You can. Fine tuning the exact amount of speed you need is key.

A bus left the Duchess' Mansion; three people boarded at the start
At Ripon Cathedral, one left and half a person boarded
At Caterpillar's Spot, two people left; so how many passengers in total?

>>3842074
You just need to figure out how to get a bunch of SPD and never get hit. Most enemies are either incapable of damaging you on your [Evade] turns, or can be disabled in some way.
The few that can't are the challenging ones.

>>3842083
Zero Alices

>>3840820
She is ofcourse the perfect angel

>>3841268
You could just you know, ignore him?
You get to kill bill at endings F/G without repercussions anyway

dead red hood when

>>3842127
Only 350 CGs left to go, anon. It will be worth the wait

>>3842178
i hope it massive like silksong map going to be fun

>>3842035
I don't remember who's the vampire supposed to be?

>>3842195
Marianna/Mary the prostitute turns into that thing. When it happens depends on if you had sex with her before Knight in Armor fight.

>>3842201
oh, right. I always rape her so I never saw it.

>>3842074
It's arguably a lot easier in 2 than 1 because items don't cost a turn and EMMM clearly thought out more how lvl 1 runs work which is why I assume he does them himself to see if they're possible before finishing the game. They're still doable in 1 but 1 is also way more finnicky due to being less complex and more geared towards unga bunga.

>>3842083
How did half a person board? Were they a midget?

>>3842203
Based, technically that saves her life.

>>3842238
Triple handicap is gonna triple handicap.

>>3842270
my face when I'm talking to that rabbit in wonderland and he says mary sue is the cause of all the problems and gets splatted right after the conversation

>>3842195
NTA, but I guess it's Marianna?
She's a slime iirc, but she's called a vampire.

>>3841140
very cute

Finally finished DLC3. Holy shit, what a ride. The entire Winterbell section was absolute cinema. Playing both games back to back really shows how the dev managed to improve with each new piece of content.

>>3842562
You didn't miss the polar bears, right?

>>3842571
The stuffed ones that show small flashbacks? Yeah, I think I found them all. One scene I didn't understand was the one that ends with a smiling face addressing Leaf when she's locked up. Who was that supposed to be?

>>3841268
>not just stomping the snake for shits and giggles like the black trial in bs1.
Grim.

>>3842574
>Who was that supposed to be?
Jabberwock.

>>3842589
Grimm*

>>3842613
... would be disappointed in you.

I just realized I finally have all the alts of this cat.

>check steam page for 2
>"similar to games you've played"
>BS1, obviously
>but also Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth
wut, is it just because they're both JRPGs? Because I love both games but they are worlds apart.

>>3842890
That "similar games" section isn't really worth considering. It's just vaguely based on the tags

>>3842890
mine said undertale and deltarune would be good lmao

>>3842886
wrong thread, sensei

>>3842902
ah yes
my favorite PROCEEDers

watching lingeriena h scence kek i known she an irredeemable piece of shit but why grimm so argresive when anyone in the garden also a massive pos

>>3842910
shit, I was hoping no one would notice.

>>3842562
That he did. Not sure if he can keep it up for future releases, but I sure as hell hope he does.
There are very few sequels which are straight up improvements over the original (the only ones I can think of are Bioshock 2 and Silksong) and BS2 is one of them.

>>3842988
Learning continuously more suffering

>>3842988
Red hood may not be liked in these threads but man is she cute

>>3842988
I'm playing black souls 1 for the first time and I can't believe she just lets you fuck her for a small amount of souls like that.

>>3843088
>Red hood may not be liked in these threads
She is generally liked in these threads. Pic related was from a poll here some years back.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vrpg/thread/1848469/#1852420
https://arch.b4k.dev/vrpg/thread/1848469/#1852443

>>3843104
>She is generally liked in these threads.
Not anymore

>>3843104
I w0ould like to see a newer version of this. I feel that the freshness of DLC 3 made people feel quite strongly about certain characters

>>3843104
>2021
It's been that long?

>>3842988
I'm genuinely unsure if he "capped out" early considering how much art he has done, or if he decided to embrace the sketchy style.

>>3843139
Try again when DRH releases. These threads are dead as fuck right now.

>realize I could use any item that gives me a chance for an extra turn to just spam evade and use the free turn to slowly damage nearly unwinnable fights
I don't know if I would call this cheesing but I'll keep this in mind. I don't think I could've killed Donkey King otherwise.

Yeah, this is funny.

>>3843301
Redwhore

>>3843249
Thief's Dagger's skill does x6ATK damage and applies the dodge status.
Guardian Bunker applies the Guard status so long as you attack with it.
Guard and Dodge both give +50% speed while active.
Undodgeable and unguardable attacks exist much later on.
Just be yourself, anon. The only real "cheats" are gunlocking, Requiem, and Guardian Angel/Draconic Ring.

>>3843321
>Requiem
Don't most boss fights where it'd actually be useful just dispel or override it anyways?

>>3843321
any "cheating" you get from Guardian Angel is negated from having to hear Grimm scream 30 times in a row to survive 1 attack.

>>3843350
>the feedback loop of the scream and then the revival sound

>>3843321
None of those are cheating because they're playing within the rules of the game. They may be cheese tactics but the game gave you those tools so that you can use them, it's not like you're purposely combining certain moves in an unintended way that glitches and gives you a higher damage multiplier or something.

Funny bird

RIFFFFFFFFFFF
MAKE BS3 AN RTS WITH MY DAUGHTERS AS UNTIS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

Bought one of these.

>>3843830
granted, but it's gacha

I think it was mentioned at some point in these threads or another but what artist inspired Toro main style for the game?

>>3843891
I still remember the Limbus meltdown and how it spilled over even here.

Did all the endings of Black Souls 1 happen? I'm going into 2 soon.

>>3843999
Yes, every ending is canon.

>>3844017
Even the bad/good for all the girls too?

>>3844019
Basically, anything that doesn't result in a game over should be canon. This includes heroine ends.

>>3844020
Shit

>>3843088
red hood and her fans are just fun to make fun of
not that it matters to me of course, im a leafbro and so i know that all of your waifus are shit and only good as rapebait

>>3843249
thats the point of it, yeah. the game is made to be broken, in bs2 you can get up to 8 bonus actions by the end of the final dlc

>>3844023
>her fans
Normalfags and troons

>>3844019
If Red Hood's ending wasn't canon then it would have no payoff in 2.

I'm kind of running on fumes on what to do with these three, should I throw them to some train station and put some non-BS characters on the sides as if they're just pedestrians?

>>3844171
The bench gave me an awful idea. Yaranaika all three of them, with Grimm reacting.

>>3844090
Riff-sama won so hard it's not even funny

>>3844090
alright, but now the real question: mirror mirror on the wall, is it redfags or leaffags that are faggiest of all?

>>3844467
Of all things that mankind sees
the faggiest are those who be
sitting at the keyboard, with a sore wrist
can't shut the fuck up about their interest

That was harder to rhyme than I thought

the crawling one only have two fucking cg despite being the catalyse for the game man i really want to fuck her more knowing that tco is going to get snatch by mabel by the next game

>been playing black souls for a good bit
>scroll down in equipment and realize I can wear more than one ring
Wait? I've already beat the game once. Was this always there?

>>3844171
>still in the gutter on what to do with them
I think I know what to do now
>>3844173
That’d be fun as an alt

>>3844599
>scroll down in equipment and realize I can wear more than one ring

>>3844599
Now you will tell me you aren't running, right?
Don't worry it's normal.

>>3844599
Yeah, I only noticed the other slots after Knight in Armor or something. A similar UI-related mishap happened to me in F&H:Termina with corpses, and not scrolling down enough to notice the option to saw off heads. I played until post-church region without any skill unlocks.

Miranda is pretty cute. I like her a lot.

Elma's dad was fucking her, right?

>>3845233
No.

>>3845236
Really? The spring scene implied that and when you rape her yourself she calls you daddy.

does anyone have that image where dinah is writing something that reads "he homosex'ed across the streeting faggotly to the gay place"?

>>3845240
What is in "Match" anyway?

Does anyone know how to fix the audio being choppy I'm out of ideas

For black souls 1, does the game get harder in new game plus or is it just a reset of all items and characters?

>>3845953
only resets. you can manually change the difficulty with the statue in the holy forest

>>3845240
Been forever since I've seen those scenes but you're sure it ain't just cuz you basically adopted her after she got orphaned?

>>3845953
NG+ only increases the difficulty by 1 so in practice it makes no difference.

>>3845953
And only items tied to progression reset, you get to keep everything else.

>>3845847
Never heard of that being a problem before, you might be shit out of luck. Try copying your saves and reinstalling to see if that helps. Only other thing I can think of is that your actual computer is what's fucking shit up.
>>3845778
Blood, bones and organs more than likely. Elma uses the fairies as materials for her Match and she still goes out hunting for bitches in her ending.

I wonder how it must've been to realize the only thing making people get the bad ends in Black Souls 1 is the ring you get from Leaf without any spoilers.

>>3846067
I just didn't bother putting it on while on NG+.

Bad characters endings in Black Souls 1 are just extended editions of the good endings. That's kinda lame.

lmao

>>3846104
AIEEEEEEEEE

Can someone tell me what the fuck this is? I've checked everywhere and I can't find anything on it. I'm taking constant damage, and I can't cure it. Goddess blood won't even work.

>>3846116
What battle?

>>3846104
rif is a nigger...

>>3846116
You got it from the Hydra. Die.

alice

>>3846238
That's nice, mr. precum.
Any chance you could translate all that into humanspeak?
Thnaks, Alice will appriciate it.

>>3846242
>Romanian policemen have discovered illegally possessed cartridges and pellets, as well as powder for manufacturing cartridges
>Police officers from the Weapons, Explosives, and Dangerous Substances Service, under the coordination of a prosecutor from the Prosecutor's Office attached to the Târgoviște Court, carried out two...

I kinda wish there was an option to sincerely love leaf. I just got ending C and Leaf's bad end

>>3846159
MOGGED

>>3846326
Shakespearean.
>Light, seeking light, doth light of light beguile

>>3846326
so true rabbit

>>3846265
>He doesnt know

>>3846787
Cursed

>>3846679
I haven't got this dialogue yet? Is it in ending D or in the 2nd game?

>>3846919
2nd game

>>3846265
I have separate folders for both Leaf and Mary because I refuse to believe that the beautiful fairy that I love with all my heart could be such a heartless monster.

>>3846159
I'll take cute and precious maymay thanks
rabbit is too whorish for my taste

>>3847056
>whorish
This word has lost its meaning thanks to brain dead retards like you. Node is devoted only to Grimm.

>>3846787
looks female enough

>>3847080
Blame Joyce.
>My sweet little whorish Nora I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off twice when I read your letter. I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways. Yes, now I can remember that night when I fucked you for so long backwards. It was the dirtiest fucking I ever gave you, darling. My prick was stuck in you for hours, fucking in and out under your upturned rump. I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora’s fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.