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Anonymous No.3834049 >>3834099 >>3834523 >>3835338 >>3836150 >>3839088
SKALD
Hey! this game is pretty good
Anonymous No.3834089 >>3834104 >>3838633
>2024 indie
>retro-style party-based RPG set in a grim-dark fantasy world of Lovecraftian horror
hit the indie buzzword quota immediately
indie pixel slop
Anonymous No.3834092
your mom is an indie pixie slop
the game is actually good
Anonymous No.3834099 >>3834111 >>3838733
>>3834049 (OP)
>curvature
the most retarded of hipster screen filters.
holy fuck these devs are hacks.
Anonymous No.3834104 >>3834106 >>3834107 >>3834346 >>3834568 >>3834624 >>3836098 >>3837413 >>3838631 >>3838918
>>3834089
I swear to fucking god, this board needs a comment parser / auto-filter that perm-bans Zoomers just spamming "slop" as a buzzword. Oh the fucking irony. How absolutely stunningly oblivious you are to your excruciating hypocrisy.
So here it is, kiddo: "slop" does not just mean whatever your oh-so-jaded brain is unenthused about because you physically lack any dopamine molecules to muster even the most meagre modicum of interest in anything after your eight hour doomscrolling binge on Instagram.
You can't even capitalize or punctuate correctly. You express yourself at the level of a fucking six year old. The most impressive thing about you is the surprise of seeing that you apparently could reach for the word "quota" in a fumbling effort to prompt your phone's autocorrect to spit it out for you.

Read a goddamn book, you inbred vegetable. In a few years once you've graduated to books without pictures in them we can introduce you to some that aren't about Jane and Spot. And it'll only be another two decades after that when you might be worthy to even have Lovecraft's name in your animal mouth and when your opinion might be worth the electrons to store and transmit it for the benefit of children younger than you. Maybe. We shall have to see how many times you get held back, and whether you survive your congenital drug-resistant syphilis.
Anonymous No.3834106
>>3834104
tl;dr textslop
Anonymous No.3834107
>>3834104
Newfag.
Anonymous No.3834111 >>3834119 >>3836295
>>3834099
what? no need to be so aggressive
it's just a filter, anon, it can't hurt you
Anonymous No.3834118 >>3834120 >>3834121 >>3834182 >>3834228 >>3834638 >>3834988
this board was much better back in the day
it was mostly anons who were genuinely interested in the genre
but now it's mostly /v/ermin-minded anons who only know to spam rage-bait and buzzwords

I don't know is it /v/-tier posting habits osmosis, the influx of cuckdex refugees, or maybe just plain old bots but I can confidently say it's much harder to have an actual game-related discussion on this board nowdays
Anonymous No.3834119 >>3834176 >>3834506 >>3838733
>>3834111
if you think that's aggressive, you are soft.
it's not just a filter, it's a canary.
it isn't hurting me, it's informing me.
Anonymous No.3834120 >>3834176 >>3838636
>>3834118
The game genuinely isn't good, from character development to aesthetics to narrative. We discussed it already when it released and several times since. OP coming in with "hey dis good" isn't provoking good discussion, it's provoking well deserved shitposting.
Anonymous No.3834121 >>3834176
>>3834118
>a morose cast to its opulence
it insists upon itself
Anonymous No.3834176
>>3834119
>>3834120
>>3834121
none of this is true, you are just all shiteaters who are unconsciously but desperately trying to rationalize your vermin / cuckdex habits
t. knower
Anonymous No.3834182 >>3834230 >>3834319
>>3834118
I unironically think people here just hate games and don't know how to process that.
They make this impossible list of mutually exclusive requirements that a game must have, but no such game exists.
And if they see a game that fails on one criterion? Better enter the thread and call it sl*p.
That'll sure own the devs.
Anonymous No.3834228 >>3834358
>>3834118
Skald was Codex's 2024 GotY though...
Anonymous No.3834230 >>3834305
>>3834182
>That'll sure own the devs
lmao as if anyone cares about the devs. people just don't want to eat garbage and smile like you do. this whole tryhard pseudoretro shit is fake and gay.
Anonymous No.3834305 >>3834311 >>3834533
>>3834230
>if anyone cares about the devs
Maybe not these devs, but posting about most indie games gets you called a dev or a shill or both. There's a Caves of Qud thread up right now where half of it is people talking about how much they hate the devs
Anonymous No.3834311 >>3836108
>>3834305
>a Caves of Qud thread up right now where half of it is people talking about how much they hate the devs
because they actually dislike them, not because they want to "own" them as some kind of spiteful powerplay regardless of game quality. coq devs are legitimate creeps though, SA goons and sexpests.
Anonymous No.3834319 >>3834343
>>3834182
>people here just hate games and don't know how to process that
This is the unfortunate truth. /vrpg/ is not the only place that suffers from such pestilence. Most everyone on /vr/ legitimately hates games and doesn't even play them excepting to check a game off their "backlog" by using guides and save states to cheat their way through. It reminds me of when I was a teen and all of my peers wanted to be edgy, so everything was bad, even if it was good. I blame the zoomers. They are not quite old enough to have dropped that restrictive way of thinking and social media during the formative years has been disastrous to their mental health. As for Skald, it looks like a cool game. Never played it, but I'll buy it eventually and I'm all for it. We need more games like it.
Anonymous No.3834343 >>3834361
>>3834319
Kids like you are funny. You have no real discernment, only an allergic reaction to negativity.
Anonymous No.3834346 >>3834352
>>3834104
>I swear to fucking god, this board needs a comment parser / auto-filter that perm-bans Zoomers just spamming "slop" as a buzzword.
That would literally remove the majority of the posters. And the same zoomer mods would just delete vrpg. In fact, that seems like a better idea than the current state it is in.
>the influx of cuckdex refugees
Codex refugees go rpg hq, the codex is currently facing an influx of /v/ermin.
Anonymous No.3834352 >>3834362
>>3834346
It's funny to me that at every era of this website I've seen people crying that it sucks and "insert thing here" has ruined it. I think Chicken Littles are enjoying themselves doomsaying.
Anonymous No.3834358
>>3834228
good to know
now go back
Anonymous No.3834361 >>3834428
>>3834343
>no real discernment
Explain how my post indicates a lack og discernment. Can't wait to see it.
Anonymous No.3834362 >>3834428
>>3834352
Sure. The era that posters hate vidya is just another day at the office on /vrpg/.
Dave No.3834414 >>3834505 >>3834556
So is the game any good
Anonymous No.3834428 >>3834477
>>3834361
>Never played it, but I'll buy it eventually and I'm all for it.
>We need more games like it.
This right here.
>>3834362
That's shit in your head bro. You're tilting at an imaginary hivemind.
Anonymous No.3834477 >>3834625
>>3834428
You think that take is indiscerning? If I'm so lacking in discernment, then please enlighten me. How about you explain to me why Skald is bad and why the industry should be doing a 180Β° on that shit.
Anonymous No.3834505
>>3834414
It is.
Anonymous No.3834506 >>3834648
>>3834119
It's a canary informing you of what? Be specific. What are you so terrified about?
Anonymous No.3834517 >>3838734
>legitimately grimdark setting full of Lovecraftian horrors
>lots of fun party members who regularly chime in with commentary and advice
>fun gameplay, flexible builds, mix-n-match playstyles

the ending still caught me off guard, what the fuck man
Anonymous No.3834523
>>3834049 (OP)
It was ok. Horryn was a cool setpiece. The class balance was all over the place. It's worth a play for genre fans but no classic.
Anonymous No.3834533 >>3834566
>>3834305
Might have something to do with the dev (and his wife, if the spouse is a female even) being pedos. But I guess nowadays that's not a big deal anymore. So those who care are just relics of the double minus ungood past.
Dave No.3834535 >>3834602 >>3834643 >>3837740
Just realized my laptop doesn't meet the minimum requirements.

Great work, programmers.
Anonymous No.3834556
>>3834414
I liked the demo that I played some time ago. Decent art style and good music.
I think it may be good but I only played demo so I can't really speak about whole game.
Anonymous No.3834566 >>3834628
>>3834533
I don't really want to suffer through this century. I just want to skip over the next hundred years, because I just do not know if I can endure the complete collapse of meaning and the end of truth. "Pedo" does not just mean anyone you had a momentary dislike for after you discovered they weren't cis-het white evangelicals.
Anonymous No.3834568
>>3834104
You can just filter it yourself.
Anonymous No.3834602
>>3834535
jesus christ, Dave, hope you turn your life around
Anonymous No.3834624
>>3834104
That got a smile out of me. Get his ass anon
Anonymous No.3834625 >>3834636
>>3834477
>take
Damn, you're a kid.
>the industry
Using this term reinforces my point. You don't really care about individual games, you care about the state of "gaming" and think positivity needs to be pushed in order to encourage devs to create more. This is meta thinking, you don't really have any particular tastes, you're a consumer.
Anonymous No.3834628 >>3835014
>>3834566
>they weren't cis-het white evangelicals
The shelter that non-cis-het spaces provide to predators is very amusing. Wave the flag and you can work within unimpeded, cracking eggs and plapping bussy. Truly Discord is the new Catholic Church.
Anonymous No.3834636 >>3834639
>>3834625
Wow, nice way to prove him right genius.
Zoomie dodges the question and refuses to talk about the game. You never like games, do something productive with your life.
Anonymous No.3834638 >>3835015 >>3835234 >>3835443
>>3834118
>this board was much better back in the day
this board was made like two years ago
Anonymous No.3834639 >>3834745
>>3834636
You really aren't good at this, huh? He said he hasn't played it. How can I talk about the game with someone who hasn't played it, he can't respond to anything I say.
Holy shit you carebears are moronic little cretins.
Anonymous No.3834643 >>3835053
>>3834535
>anon
>please
>you have to let me go
Anonymous No.3834648 >>3834747
>>3834506
>a canary informing you of what? Be specific
the lack of aesthetic sense the developers have, their desire to want to be seen as retro without understanding retro or having clear inspirations. this will extend to gameplay and narrative, it always does in small teams.
>What are you so terrified about?
choking, something blocking my airway terrifies me. i choked as a little kid once and my dad saved my life but i have this irrational feeling the way i'm going to die is by asphyxiation. weird question tho.
Anonymous No.3834745
>>3834639
Pure & utter cope.
Anonymous No.3834747
>>3834648
>i don't like what you like so it's bad
Anonymous No.3834988
>>3834118
>this board was much better back in the day
that's so true, haha
Anonymous No.3835014 >>3835117
>>3834628
Don't you ever get uncomfortable knowing that the data about who predators are is extremely public and is among the most intensely scrutinized and analyzed and trustworthy data our species has ever compiled? And don't you ever get uncomfortable knowing that all governments which collect such data make it publicly accessible - and that therefore anyone in the world with an internet connection can instantly know that it's heterosexual men who are disproportionately likely to be caught and convicted for molesting children? You don't get uncomfortable about that?

Like. Maybe uncomfortable enough to project that sense of guilt and fear onto others in an effort to redirect attention away from yourself?
Anonymous No.3835015
>>3834638
Cut him some slack, two years is a long time for him. It's a fifth of his entire life, and more like a quarter of his life since his brain gained the ability to form permanent memories.
Dave No.3835053 >>3837740
>>3834643
Very funny.
That piece of shit video game requires Intel Iris lol

Ridiculous
Anonymous No.3835117
>>3835014
Nope, I'm not prone to logical errors where I equate sample size to ratios or misunderstand that most hetero predators attack their own family or tar everyone in a group with the same brush. Most predators weren't Catholic priests or Scout Masters either and most Catholic priests and Scout Masters weren't predators. The point is more that when you make an identity a camp that has access, you kinda draw in a certain type of person and there's literally terminology of grooming springing up in those spaces.
Anonymous No.3835234 >>3835240
>>3834638
Didn't already exist in late 2010? Maybe I'm mistaken, but it's been around since _at least_ 2020 for sure
Anonymous No.3835240
>>3835234
If you use the catalog, you'll notice this at the top of the page:
>08/21/20 New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
To be fair, the 'rona did distort everyone's perception of time. But this board has only been here for 5 years.
Anonymous No.3835338 >>3835401
>>3834049 (OP)
it's alright. I feel like there's no build diversity, as in only one or two build are worth playing and the rest sucks
Anonymous No.3835401 >>3835402
>>3835338
the game isn't hard
Anonymous No.3835402
>>3835401
or good
Anonymous No.3835443
>>3834638
I miss the good ol' days when this board was flooded by Rean
Anonymous No.3836009 >>3836082
Anyway I'm enjoying the game
Anonymous No.3836010 >>3836025 >>3836060 >>3836499 >>3838187 >>3838423
>a better grieving mother than the Grieving Mother in just a handful of sentences
LEARN AVELLONE
Anonymous No.3836025 >>3836238
>>3836010
Let it go lad the game's liquid shite
Anonymous No.3836034
Fags are 15x more likely to be pedos than straight men. Facts don't care about your sexual deviancy.
Anonymous No.3836060
>>3836010
>never got to fight the "baby"
shame
Anonymous No.3836082
>>3836009
nice, there's poems. are there any riddles? that's the true test. riddles are the de-facto way to challenge a hero and that goes back since time immemorial. if a rpg doesn't have riddles, then it's never gonna be great.
Anonymous No.3836095
It was okay. I was hoping for Ultima 5 with better combat but it did not deliver on that. Very linear. Why can't any one make a U5 type of game?
Anonymous No.3836098
>>3834104
Although I believe the word "slop" applies to many things in our world your post is golden. Fuck these broccoli heads.
Anonymous No.3836108 >>3836115
>>3834311
Yeah it's a shame, the game has really great design. The devs are literally commie furries unfortunately. They game has a furry bear faction as part of the main campaign plot and a quest that involves tranny deer centaurs. That shit is stupid but easy to ignore. It's more annoying that they just HAD to shoe horn it into their because fetishist cannot stop themselves from involving other people in their kink. I would have just pirated the game if I knew that before I picked it up.
Anonymous No.3836115 >>3836117
>>3836108
Okay, is it actually without a shadow of a doubt fetish furry tranny shit or are you just calling it furry and tranny shit because there's talking animals.
Anonymous No.3836117 >>3836170 >>3836400
>>3836115
There is a lame but short deer centaur tranny quest that's dumb and a care bear furry with purple hair but luckily it doesn't get too much deeper than that in the game.
Anonymous No.3836135
>>3836119
>the nu-SA logo and not the old one
Shiggy diggy
Anonymous No.3836150 >>3836167
>>3834049 (OP)
That art style is highschool tier trash.
Anonymous No.3836167 >>3836189
>>3836150
You have no idea what you're talking about. First of all, style is not a quality thing, so your conflation there is ridiculous and reveals that you don't know anything about art. Second, the stylization was chosen specifically to invoke the primitive graphics technology of the golden era of such games back in the '80s and '90s and it accomplishes this homage very well since it's instantly recognizable to anyone familiar with the genre. Third, high schoolers these days can't even take a fucking screen shot let alone make pixel art with soul and respectful to its ancestors.
Anonymous No.3836168
>>3836119
>Oh ho ho!
>But you see, I have depicted you as a seething wojack and thus you are utterly destroyed and I win everything forever!
Anonymous No.3836170 >>3836184 >>3836473
>>3836117
The deer centaur aren't tranny, though... Their culture has a naming convention that tells you about their status and gender and they have more than two such suffixes. Everybody panic.
Meanwhile, this is a game where psychic aliens from beyond space and time are literally warping reality while you use a device the size of a TV remote to teleport yourself to the harem pleasure den of a sentient aquatic fungus in order to get drunk and gossip while selling the garbage you dug out of an ancient dungeon in between the forest of animated mangroves and the desert of salt dunes...
Of all the wacky wild chaos in the setting, a single species of weird aliens having a complicated biology and a culture that references that is hardly the weirdest.
There's stranger things currently living in real-world Earth. Guess how many sexes funguses have.
Anonymous No.3836184 >>3836190
>>3836170
>funguses
Stopped reading here
Anonymous No.3836189 >>3836191 >>3836409
>>3836167
>invoke the primitive graphics technology of the golden era of such games back in the '80s and '90s and it accomplishes this homage very well
Not at all. It's mimicking it very poorly. The scenes are far too busy. Looks nothing like retro pixel art, looks like indie pixel art made by people who don't understand readability.
Anonymous No.3836190 >>3836192 >>3836392 >>3836400
>>3836184
At the end? At the very end? What's the difference between "persons" and "people"? Can you tell me? Because they are different terms with different meanings and different use cases.
Anonymous No.3836191 >>3836195
>>3836189
I'm sorry about your attention span issues, anon, but the scenes are not too busy. That's just flatly incorrect.
Anonymous No.3836192
>>3836190
>t. not a fun guy
Anonymous No.3836195 >>3836244 >>3836292 >>3836389 >>3836399 >>3836409
>>3836191
Attention span has absolutely nothing to do with it, and I can tell you're quite the mouthbreather for even attempting to make that connection. It isn't incorrect.
Anonymous No.3836207
>>Oh ho ho!
>>But you see, I have depicted you as a seething wojack and thus you are utterly destroyed and I win everything forever!
Anonymous No.3836238
>>3836025
LMAO
LAMO even
your opinion is liquid shite
Anonymous No.3836244 >>3836315
>>3836195
yeah your webm looks like shit on my monitor
but I only had to tinker like 2 minutes to make it look much better
besides while actually playing it doesn't register as bad for your brain
Anonymous No.3836292 >>3836315
>>3836195
That's what you consider busy? That's the example you're gonna use? Yeah, really proving something there.
Anonymous No.3836295
>>3834111
is there setting in game to turn it off?
Anonymous No.3836315 >>3836357
>>3836244
>your webm
It is from the developer's Steam page.
>>3836292
Yes, that constantly bobbing cluttered example is busy and trying too hard. It's nothing like old games or anything like an homage, it's what tasteless indie devs with no aesthetic or design sense think old games were like. Now, continue to cry and throw sd hominems out while poising as dismissive.
Anonymous No.3836357
>>3836315
ok but it's a fun game to play so your babbling is kinda irrelevant
you can go now
bye!
Anonymous No.3836389
>>3836195
This is pretty busy but still easily readable. The problem with this game is not the graphics which are fine or even cool. The problem s that it is a linear story you can play in a couple of hours and have no desire to touch again. Compare this with U4-U6.
Anonymous No.3836392 >>3837102
>>3836190
he's making fun of you for writing "funguses" instead of "fungi"
Anonymous No.3836399
>>3836195
Meh. That's not that bad.
Anonymous No.3836400 >>3836473
>>3836117
>doesn't answer the question
Looks like that tranny shit is all in your head.
>>3836190
I'd take that as a win, mate. If all he had was spelling, then he obviously couldn't refute your argument.
Anonymous No.3836409 >>3837114
>>3836189
It is entirely retarded to hold a game that came out in 2024 to the standard of games that came out in the 80s and 90s. They had completely different tools and a completely different philosophy and skill set to making game art back then. You could just as easily rip on modern game devs for sloppy 3D, like needless clipping or bloated & unoptimized models, yet I don't ever see that happening. It's as if you're just looking for things to be critical of. Didn't like one dude make this game? He did Kickstarter in like 2019, then early access in 2021 and full release in early 2024. Sounds based to me. He very easily could have done what everyone does that those funds and sat on his ass for years milking Kickstarter and early access, but he actually got the game out. How many solo devs even accomplish this? I think it's a little too easy to take all of that for granted.
>>3836195
Personally, I like it and I'd like to see more games do this.
Anonymous No.3836473 >>3836990 >>3837097
>>3836170
>>3836400
I don't really care that much, but it's there. Don't gaslight us. We know who/what the devs are and what they are about. We see you people. You're also arguing with multiple anons thinking we're the same anon. Take your ssris and hormones and chill out.
Anonymous No.3836499
>>3836010
Mogged by Look Outside in the same year thoughever
Anonymous No.3836957 >>3836983
Are the graphics supposed to be unreadable? My main method of exploration is clicking randomly on the fog of war to see i the game will path there.
Anonymous No.3836983
>>3836957
I don't know what to tell you, it can be bad at times but I don't think it's that bad
give us a screenshot
Anonymous No.3836990
>>3836473
>I won't explain it to you even tho u asked, so just trust me. It's there.
Anonymous No.3837097 >>3837099
>>3836473
You're all over this board spamming accusations of "gaslighting", even though you don't know what that word means.
Anonymous No.3837099
>>3837097
>you think I’d gaslight you? Do you have any idea how crazy that sounds?
Anonymous No.3837102
>>3836392
Fungi and funguses have different meanings. Fungi means all fungi together as a single group. Funguses means multiple different groups of distinct kinds of fungus.

Reading comprehension is a thing, kids.
Anonymous No.3837114 >>3837228 >>3837371
>>3836409
>It is entirely retarded to hold a game that came out in 2024 to the standard of games that came out in the 80s and 90s
Then why are they trying to invoke a retro aesthetic? Having your sprites bob is just hack work and shows that the devs are kinda disassociated from the aesthetic they are attempting to court.
>Personally, I like it and I'd like to see more games do this.
Do what? Bad pixelart? There's countless games on Steam doing it.
Anonymous No.3837228 >>3837235
>>3837114
Designing the stylization of the game to invoke the aesthetic of retro games is a completely different topic of conversation from saying it's bad quality because it resembles old games. Those are just completely fucking different topics of conversation.
One's a declaration of your subjective taste. The other is a judgement about the virtue of the game's quality.
No one is obliged to agree with you about your personal tastes.
And the fact that you're conflating your personal preferences with the game's production quality is proof that your taste is shitty because you don't even have the self-awareness to realize what you're doing. And if you DO know what you're doing when you make that conflation... then you're not participating in good faith, so your opinions and monologues about your personal taste are completely fucking irrelevant.
Anonymous No.3837235 >>3837239 >>3837373
>>3837228
>Designing the stylization of the game to invoke the aesthetic of retro games is a completely different topic of conversation from saying it's bad quality because it resembles old games
Gibberish sentence that bears no relation to anything I've posted.
>No one is obliged to agree with you about your personal tastes.
No shit.
Brother, if I have to preface my opinion that it's an opinion based on my tastes, then it's you that a fucking retard.
The shit is busy, it's fake retro, and it looks bad.

What are you even crying about here? That I'm being mean to the devs who should get a participation award?
You're the one who can't even state what he likes about the shit, what he "wants to see more of". The fact is that you have no discernment and want to praise any game for being made at all, instead of giving any feedback. Are you a child?
Anonymous No.3837239 >>3837243
>>3837235
>participation award
2500 reviews. They sold north of 75k copies (but likely less than 150k). Base price of $15. This was a modest hit as indie games go.
I don't think they particularly care one way or another if an anon thinks they should have a participation award.
Honestly it sounds like you just want AAA visuals, and that's fine. There's a whole catalog full of that, and you'd be better off posting in those threads.
Anonymous No.3837243 >>3837375 >>3838733
>>3837239
The participation award is about some anon's aversion to criticism and desire to praise devs for not being some other shittier dev. I don't care if a game does good or bad.
>Honestly it sounds like you just want AAA visuals
That's not the case at all. I grew up with retro games, I don't value graphical fidelity but instead value aesthetic design sense and readability. People who made old games weren't trying to make them look old, they were using the limitations to the best of their ability. If you want to make a retro looking game, try to understand those limitations and implement them to inform your work. Plastering filters over your work and having throbbing sprites and not utilizing a palette properly should be mocked. I do not want to see more of that.
Anonymous No.3837371 >>3837402
>>3837114
>Then why are they trying to invoke a retro aesthetic?
Are they? How? Because it has pixels that are animated? By your logic, any 2D game art made with animated pixels is "trying to invoke a retro aesthetic". First of all, why do you think it's somehow bad to make your game with some kind of retro styling? You just don't like it because you're some elitist snob with shit taste? Second, how is animating your sprites hack work? Would love to hear exactly why this is all rubbish to you (not). I'm sure your argument is truly enlightening (it definitely is not). Can't wait to see you oit yourself as a retard any more than you have already (you will).
Anonymous No.3837373 >>3837402
>>3837235
>if I have to preface my opinion that it's an opinion based on my tastes, then it's you that a fucking retard.
No, you goon. We all hope that someone will actually provide interesting and thoughtful insight to some of these games and when you act like your shitty, uncultured opinion is somehow worth our time, then it makes you a retarded jackass.
Anonymous No.3837375 >>3837402
>>3837243
>People who made old games weren't trying to make them look old, they were using the limitations to the best of their ability.
You are naive and ignorant if you think that is any different today.
Anonymous No.3837402 >>3837422 >>3838733
>>3837371
>Are they? How?
There's literally a set of screen filters to give a "retro" aesthetic and they tried to go for a C64-esque palette.
>why do you think it's somehow bad to make your game with some kind of retro styling?
I don't. It's the quality of the work being bad that's the problem here. I love retro games.
>Second, how is animating your sprites hack work?
Because it is, it's a very lazy way to give a sense of life to your sprites. In general you don't want breathing animations on every sprite, it makes the game feel like a joke, you want less movement on screen, not more.
>>3837373
Please calm down, kid, you might want to walk away if you're going to get this emotionally invested.
>>3837375
No, there's much more intent to provide an aesthetic nowadays because you aren't as limited by technology. Bad pixelart is really common because lazy devs use it as a way to invoke some kind of "indie" feeling. Note that I'm not criticizing their cutscenes, but rather the combat, because there's function to that apart from the aesthetic.
Anonymous No.3837413
>>3834104
exquisite post.
Anonymous No.3837422 >>3837517 >>3837986
>>3837402
Complaining that a game is using filters to achieve the desired aesthetic is a bit trivial. Like I said before, there are plenty of faux pas that 3D games continue to push out and nobody is complaining about them. I love retro games too and I hear about it from you people all the time. Whenever someone makes a modern game with a retro aesthetic it is literally the worst thing ever because reasons. Every dev faces limitations regardless of whether it is technology, time, skill, etc.; they all have to work within their own boundaries. Like I said before, it is a trifling matter to hold modern games to the standard of older games. They just tried to make it look cool and did the best they could. I guarantee you are never complaining about clipping in a 3D game, so why would you bitch about the little indie dev making pixels dance? I understand that needless movement can make the screen look busy, yet that can still be used by the artist to evoke certain feelings and that busyness was still used in old games. Do you complain about Willow being too busy? How can you sit there and tell me bad pixel art is so common and it's the worst thing ever "nowadays" when bad pixel art was literally everywhere back in the day? We get it. You don't like the game. It doesn't meet your niche expectations. The reality is there was shittons of shovelware back then and there's shittons of shovelware today. Devs still face steep limitations with producing a product in a timely manner. You're just a retard with rose colored glasses comparing some indie game a few people made to the legendary games created by seasoned vidya game makers during the height retro vidya's time and you're acting like it's somehow justified. Insane.
Anonymous No.3837426 >>3839220 >>3839229
I grew up with the choice between VGA/EGA/CGA
I’m not going back
Synamous No.3837431
One. Thing wrong. Is this the top down shenanigans. . all the remake replay.. playing both sides.what makes what. Whom plus plus.
Anonymous No.3837517 >>3837723
>>3837422
This is sad. You really aren't even talking to me or understanding anything I'm saying. You're going off on whataboutism and nonsense other people talk about that you've read. Talk about insane.
Anonymous No.3837589
my post that was on topic with two very relevant points that the retro aesthetic bitch anon
- values presentation over substance
- is making his judgement not having played the game
deleted because of the word nigger?
Anonymous No.3837723 >>3837842
>>3837517
I am writing directly to you about exactly what you are saying and you haven't responded to any of it. You have completely ignored the points that I'm making under the guise that it somehow doesn't apply to you because of reasons. Typical zoomer behavior being unable to handle confrontation directly. And this is exactly why we can't take you seriously.
Anonymous No.3837740 >>3838870
>>3834535
>>3835053
>Look up Intel Iris
>Made in 2010
Are you trying to tell me that your laptop is being outperformed by a 15 year-old on-board graphics chip? What the fuck are you actually running?
Anonymous No.3837842 >>3838645
>>3837723
I don't respond to tangential nonsense and that's what you're posting.
>we
lmao, are you trying to wield consensus?
Anonymous No.3837986
>>3837422
eops like this one are driving me nuts
be fucking succinct when trying to communicate via text
like, who asked for that wall of text?
Anonymous No.3838187
>>3836010
Grieving Mother is sex tho
Anonymous No.3838423 >>3838479
>>3836010
God, yes. But also, was Grieving Mother done by Avellone?
Anonymous No.3838479 >>3838491
>>3838423
yes
Anonymous No.3838491 >>3838528 >>3838549
>>3838479
Kinda wrong. His work was the initial concept and a bunch of shit, much of that was cut, and then everything was redone by Carrie Patel and Eric Fenstermaker.
Anonymous No.3838528
>>3838491
>everything was redone
big if true
Anonymous No.3838549 >>3838555 >>3838620
>>3838491
Yeahhhhh that makes a lot more sense. The dialogue with her just did not sound like Avellone at all to me.
Anonymous No.3838555
>>3838549
From what I know, Patel did Grieving Mother, while Fenstermaker did Durance.
Anonymous No.3838620 >>3838629 >>3838941
>>3838549
some anon just made that up, anon
damn you gullible! you might want to stay away from those vids kids do with tidepods
Anonymous No.3838629
>>3838620
>he doesn't know
Anonymous No.3838631
>>3834104
+1
Anonymous No.3838633
>>3834089
The only good RPG's made in the last 20 years have exclusively been "indie slop" as you put it. The rest of the nigger-tier faggotry slopped out through the slophole of modern major publishers has been nothing but braindead auto-leveling trash aimed at people too stupid to be able to use mops to clean the floors of the local school.
Anonymous No.3838636 >>3838638
>>3834120
>from character development to aesthetics to narrative
Literally all of those things are great in it though. You being a trash-eating faggot doesn't mean it isn't great.
Anonymous No.3838638 >>3838644
>>3838636
>Literally
Anonymous No.3838644
>>3838638
Yes, as in, not speaking hyperbolically...Are you okay down syndrome anon?
Anonymous No.3838645
>>3837842
>I don't respond to tangential nonsense
Then that must not be what I'm posting because you responded to me.
>trying
I'm obviously not the only one that thinks you're a retard.
Anonymous No.3838657 >>3838663 >>3838736
lmao these guys are fucking mad people are shitting on their pixelshart indieslop
Anonymous No.3838663 >>3838668
>>3838657
>lmao, these guys are fucking mad people are shitting on their pixelshart nintoddler shart
Anonymous No.3838668 >>3838669
>>3838663
Anonymous No.3838669 >>3838673
>>3838668
Anonymous No.3838673 >>3838675 >>3838678 >>3838733
>>3838669
>puts scanline filter in
>adds fake crt effect
yep, just like old gamesβ„’
Anonymous No.3838675 >>3838680
>>3838673
>complains about optional options in the options menu
Top tier autism. I bet you also get mad at there being options to turn the crosshairs in games off!
Anonymous No.3838678 >>3838680
>>3838673
This is not something an adult gets angry over. Take your meds. Now.
Anonymous No.3838680 >>3838713 >>3838733
>>3838675
>>3838678
>gets mad about other people's opinions on default settings
>rabidly defends game for days
>why u so mad bro
>take ur meds
lmao
Anonymous No.3838713 >>3838717
>>3838680
>game for days
First time posting ITT kiddo. Take your meds.

>>gets mad about other people's opinions on default settings
Literally what you're doing ITT. Take your meds. Now.
Anonymous No.3838717 >>3838719
>>3838713
>u mad u mad u mad umayd
>Literally
lmao
Anonymous No.3838719 >>3838723
>>3838717
>gets mad over hypocrisy being pointed out
>flagrantly randomly selecting words to criticize pretending he has a point
You REALLY need to take them.
Anonymous No.3838723 >>3838726 >>3838733
>>3838719
it didn't even make sense. i pointed out that old games didn't use filters to seem like they were old and using old hardware in response to an image talking about how pixelart indie games are just like old pixelart games. the response was "but it's just an option" and i pointed out that it's default and therefore part of the developer's vision. now you continue to cry and make the same post over and over about "meds" with le funni gifs because you're butthurt about this gentle admonishment. brother, you're upset, which is fine, but worse is that you're just not good at this.
Anonymous No.3838726 >>3838730
>>3838723
>actively arguing against a strawman
>thinks he has a point

I said it was something that someone above the age of 17 should not get angry over, because it is stupid, childish, and irrelevant. Now you're pretending as if this is some psy-op where a game is pretending to be old on purpose, which even if it was, who cares, other than people either A) Trapped in a cycle of nostalgia where imposters are seen as hostile to their coddled memories, in which case you need to take your meds, or B) Is a larping Zoomer who gets offended at games using vintage aesthetics, because they are imposters and do nothing to further the ego of the person obsessed with said games, in which case you need to take your meds.

The short and simple of it is to take your fucking meds. No one gives a shit if a game uses scanlines or pixel graphics, unless they're schizo retards that need to be in mental institutions or kept chained in their basement by the family, away from civilized society.
Anonymous No.3838730 >>3838737
>>3838726
strawmen are only okay when you do it, huh?
>it was something that someone above the age of 17 should not get angry over, because it is stupid, childish, and irrelevant
yet here i am, and why isn't it valid criticism? because you can't defend it? this is p. sad, the whole "i have to diminish your opinion to feel better". guess what, you aren't the arbiter of what should be cared about.
>a game is pretending to be old on purpose
it is. badly. there are good crt shaders out there even.
>The short and simple of it is to take your fucking meds
this is a zoomer catchphrase bro, so why are you crying about zoomers?
Anonymous No.3838733 >>3838736
>>3838723
Please don't tell me these are you, filter boy:
>>3834099
>the most retarded of hipster screen filters.
>>3834119
>it's not just a filter, it's a canary.
>>3837243
>Plastering filters over your work and having throbbing sprites
>>3837402
>There's literally a set of screen filters to give a "retro" aesthetic
>>3838673
>puts scanline filter in
>adds fake crt effect
>>3838680
>rabidly defends game for days

Do you actually think you're arguing with one person? I really hope you don't. That would be so embarrassing.
Anonymous No.3838734 >>3838740
>>3834517

I only made it to the temple beneath the first bug town where everyone went insane, what happens in the story?
Anonymous No.3838736
>>3838733
all me.
i don't think it's one guy.
>>3838657
Anonymous No.3838737 >>3838743
>>3838730
>strawmen are only okay when you do it, huh?
I haven't made any arguments, only stated that yours are fucking dumb. That would be ad hominem, although I'm right, so it's not.

>yet here i am, and why isn't it valid criticism? because you can't defend it? this is p. sad, the whole "i have to diminish your opinion to feel better". guess what, you aren't the arbiter of what should be cared about.
It's just as valid of a criticism as any other batshit retarded excuse for criticism. No one said you can't have retarded criticisms. Just don't act surprised when people call you out for it.

>this is a zoomer catchphrase bro, so why are you crying about zoomers?
Zoomer certified. The "meds" schtick has been around since at least 2013.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1369118X.2023.2216769?aria-labelledby=reprints-perm&role=tab&scroll=top&tab=permissions&utm_source

Now, TAKE YOUR FUCKING MEDS, SCHIZO.
Anonymous No.3838740
>>3838734
>what happens in the story?
Anonymous No.3838743 >>3838962 >>3839228
>>3838737
okay, try to keep up.
>I haven't made any arguments, only stated that yours are fucking dumb
your rationale for why they are dumb is a strawman "only mentally ill children would care"
>Just don't act surprised when people call you out for it.
i'm never surprised that people get mad when they hear something they don't like.
>The "meds" schtick has been around since at least 2013
your source says otherwise, newfag. holy shit you zoomers are dumb and seemingly embarrassed about being one. generational memes are stupid, kid.
Dave No.3838870
>>3837740
>What the fuck are you actually running?
Intel 5500
Anonymous No.3838918
>>3834104
>random incorrect capital Z halfway through first sentence
man i appreciate the general idea but UR eInFaG in ein glasshouse
Anonymous No.3838941 >>3839003
>>3838620
Of the two of you, you're the one who can't capitalize or punctuate correctly. I'll trust the literate adult. You should kill yourself. Quickly. And quietly.
Anonymous No.3838962 >>3838965 >>3839089 >>3839228
>>3838743
You think "take your meds" is a zoomer catchphrase? Hah. What a noob. That shit goes back to mid 1800's.
Anonymous No.3838965
>>3838962
the whole revisionism thing zoomers love to do is funny, isn't it? i guess they shit test each other with it or something, but it's really confused a number of them. irony, as a foundation for a generation, was a mistake.
Anonymous No.3839003
>>3838941
I already know you are gullible as a kid anon
you don't need to prove it any further
>Verification?
>not required.
Anonymous No.3839006 >>3839069 >>3839174
didn't have the time to play in a while
so here is an old screenshot which I think looks sick
Anonymous No.3839069 >>3839124
>>3839006
I'm not a fan of when games put shit like the last sentence in their games. Just let the player use his imagination and come to their own conclusions.
Anonymous No.3839088 >>3839174 >>3839207
>>3834049 (OP)
>linear
>has numerous syntax errors in description and dialogue
>easy
>less than 20 hours to beat with every tile explored and every secret uncovered without the use of guides
>music is generic, mediocre in composition and held high as some fascinating achievement by its use of a certain archaic soundbank
>visual style is hit and miss
When it's on discount, as it is now, it's somewhat worth it. But otherwise I wouldn't pay more than $10
Anonymous No.3839089 >>3839152
>>3838962
You don't even go back to the 1900's, get real, get bent, eat my shorts and stuff some cinnamon in your nostrils
Anonymous No.3839124 >>3839154
>>3839069
>let the player use his imagination
that's what the game does though
it perfectly sets players up to visualize the horrors and panic that erupted, the feeling of dread and hopelessness the people pressed to the steel grating felt, the knives that menaced through their flesh

I don't think you understand the subject you are diving in and you should start by gradually building up to being able to visualize a color image of an apple
Anonymous No.3839152
>>3839089
>You don't even go back to the 1900's
Sure I do. People born after 2000 don't care about history.
Anonymous No.3839154 >>3839170
>>3839124
Lmao. How can you be such a retard?
>They must have died trying to escape the town, caught between the gates and whatever assailants were in the town with them.
Instead of letting the picture inspire the player's imagination, the text just gives it away. That last sentences tells us:
>they were trying to escape the town
>they were killed by someone in the town
That narrows it down a shitton. Can you honestly look at that picture and tell me that's all your imagination can come up with? Fuck you for even making me write that shit out, like it's even needed. You could have come to this conclusion yourself, yet your insolence demands my attention and you even have the gall to accuse me of lacking understanding and even possessing aphantasia.
Anonymous No.3839170
>>3839154
oh I understood you perfectly fine. Quite the contrary, you are the one who is clueless
I was saying the screen already does activate imagination, in a different manner with a different emphasis because we already know roughly what has happened inside the city walls, of course knowing that requires playing the game
but in no way does deprive the player from sparking imagination

look I can't help you see the color image of an apple, you have to practice yourself
have a good day, see you are around when you improve
Anonymous No.3839174
>>3839088
>linear
look anon I have no idea why you insist to start with something that undermine your point so much
in the sitting >>3839006 picrel was made I've encountered cultists that served as a hook of luring a player a certain direction
but I went chose an opposite direction, searched the town, found a a group of not immediately-hostile cultists who gave out some info and hand out a quest, sneaked to the back of their house, went into the sewers [with several entrances/exists], then into a cave to discover a secret altar
Anonymous No.3839207
>>3839088
What kind of games do you enjoy anon?
Anonymous No.3839211
lmao these guys are still on a butthurt crusade to defend this poor little game from any and all criticism
Anonymous No.3839220
>>3837426
I grew up with a Hercules monochrome, my vidya looked like this.
Anonymous No.3839228 >>3839231 >>3839415
>>3838743
>>3838962
>immediately samefags as he realizes he just fucked his own argument showing it dates back all the way to beginning of 2014
>likely overlapping with the ending of 2013
Yes, DO try and keep up you retarded faggot, lmao, and strawman harder.

>your source says otherwise, newfag. holy shit you zoomers are dumb and seemingly embarrassed about being one. generational memes are stupid, kid.
No, it says exactly what I said it said, dumbshit. My argument was not that it began in 2013, I said it dates back at least to 2013, and seeing as their collection data starts at the very beginning of 2014, I was fucking right, you incompetent, illiterate, fuck.

No wonder you hate retro-styled video games, you're a sub-90 IQ fucking retard that gets angry and throws stones like a caveman when something doesn't match your incomprehensibly retarded mental image, lmao.

>i'm never surprised that people get mad when they hear something they don't like.
Ironic.

>your rationale for why they are dumb is a strawman "only mentally ill children would care"
AGAIN, not a strawman argument. It's getting embarrassing correcting you like this. No wonder you tried to instantly divert attention away from your misreading of the infograph which proved my point, showing how fuck-stupid you are.

Please, keep posting, this is getting hilarious now. I was annoyed, but now I'm entertained at the level of stupidity I'm dealing with. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
Anonymous No.3839229
>>3837426
Nobody asked.
Anonymous No.3839231 >>3839234
>>3839228
>zoomer can't interpret data
>zoomer thinks everyone mocking him is samefagging
>thinks he's in debate class
>frogposter
Anonymous No.3839234 >>3839236
>>3839231
>zoomer can't interpret data
I just did, and nice projection zoomer. You looked at the graph, immediately saw a number that wasn't 2013, when my premise is still correct, you fuck-stupid inbred faggot-shit retard.

>>zoomer thinks everyone mocking him is samefagging
No, just you, and it's hard to mock someone who's correct.

>>thinks he's in debate class
>still can't understand the basic premise of a fucking strawman and immediately abandons that topic with ANOTHER strawman
Jesus fucking tap-dancing nig-nog christ on a gummy bear cross, you are a RIOT.
Anonymous No.3839236 >>3839245
>>3839234
>You looked at the graph, immediately saw a number that wasn't 2013
lmao, no i looked at the actual numbers involved while knowing what a catchphrase is.
>No, just you
yet, you're wrong, frog-kun
>No wonder you hate retro-styled video games
nice strawman, zoomer

this is fun.
Anonymous No.3839245 >>3839250
>>3839236
>lmao, no i looked at the actual numbers involved while knowing what a catchphrase is.
Numbers which you quickly ignored since my premise was still correct, and thus you have driven this topic into strawman territory because of blithering butthurt you are about being a faggot-ass zoom-zoom.

>yet, you're wrong, frog-kun
Not according to the facts of the matter. I proved that it wasn't a zoomer catchphrase, seeing as zoomers were not widely on 4chan in 2014, regardless of the year, despite the fact that anyone in good faith would wholly acknowledge if usage is documented at the beginning of 2014, it’s reasonable to infer that the term was present, at least to some degree, in late 2013. But you are not arguing in good faith. You're a fat ugly virgin zoomer who is hopelessly addicted to saving face on an anonymous image board.

Take your meds, schizo.

>nice strawman, zoomer
Not a strawman. If anything, it's a wrap-around to the original argument, which you have been diverting from with strawmen because of how fuck-stupid retarded you are.

Meds, now.
Anonymous No.3839250 >>3839326
>>3839245
>Numbers which you quickly ignored
i'm not talking about the years, my dude.
>catchphrase
define this.
>Not a strawman
it is. i've never once said i dislike retro styled games. i even said i like retro games. you've been misrepresenting my position for a while.
Anonymous No.3839326 >>3839387
>>3839250
>completely abandons everything after getting blown the fuck out
Thank you for finally taking your meds.
Anonymous No.3839387
>>3839326
so you've started larping, huh?
Anonymous No.3839415
>>3839228
What a huge faggot! Everyone point and laugh.
>points
Hahahahaha!!!
Anonymous No.3839554 >>3839582
can you anons please find another place to have this wrestling match of yours?
no one is interested in reading it, no one is going to read it, and I have no idea how is that on topic
you are free to continue just keep it to the privacy of your bedrooms
Anonymous No.3839582 >>3839584
>>3839554
See! They did it again!
>Drawn on the wall is a vulgar graffiti of two naked male forms that appear to be... wrestling.
Give it away, why don'tcha.
Anonymous No.3839584 >>3839592
>>3839582
who? what?
what are you trying to communicate anon?
get a grip, you aren't making any sense
Anonymous No.3839592
>>3839584
The text is literally giving it away. Why even make a picture at this point?