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Anonymous No.3866451 [Report] >>3866463 >>3866466 >>3866722 >>3866751 >>3866847 >>3866958 >>3866977 >>3866983 >>3866996 >>3867380 >>3869079 >>3869085 >>3869137 >>3869144 >>3869188 >>3869203 >>3869280 >>3869451 >>3869737 >>3869865 >>3869927 >>3870405 >>3870408 >>3870409
>critically acclaimed
>commercially successful
>best WRPG of the last decade
>…
>zero threads on /vrpg/

Is it because of no gays?
Anonymous No.3866456 [Report] >>3869984
Maybe because it's trash.
Anonymous No.3866458 [Report] >>3866462 >>3866474 >>3869862 >>3870162
It's because everyone already moved on. It was a good game that makes 0 lasting impact on people. It's not truly memorable, just a solid flash in the pan.
Anonymous No.3866462 [Report] >>3866471
>>3866458
I just hope other devs don’t start thinking they can make games without respecting the LGBT community.
Anonymous No.3866463 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
It's so bad that even /vrpg/ doesn't talk about it. Anyone who played through the game wouldn't give it any good reviews
Anonymous No.3866466 [Report] >>3866470 >>3869308
>>3866451 (OP)
It's a JRPG you fucking retard
Anonymous No.3866470 [Report]
>>3866466
It's FRPG you faggot.
Anonymous No.3866471 [Report] >>3866492
>>3866462
They're French, they're all gay.
Anonymous No.3866474 [Report] >>3866481
>>3866458
Anonymous No.3866475 [Report] >>3866476
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SALcDlGKNW4
Anonymous No.3866476 [Report] >>3866478
>>3866475
>That thumbnail
Aint watching that nigga
Anonymous No.3866478 [Report] >>3866479 >>3869086
>>3866476
>slop thumbnail for a slop game
>nooooooo I won't watch it you can't criticize it!
Anonymous No.3866479 [Report] >>3866480
>>3866478
Yeah still not watching it kid
Anonymous No.3866480 [Report]
>>3866479
nobody cares. you are the shill, it was posted to counter your shilling.
Anonymous No.3866481 [Report]
>>3866474
Everyone has already moved on from it. It had about as much cultural impact as FF16, which was also fine but not memorable.
Anonymous No.3866492 [Report] >>3870402
>>3866471
>played it for 5 mins
>some gay roses appear everywhere
>uninstalled and moved on
this game is gayer than a game full of troons
Anonymous No.3866706 [Report] >>3870405
Good movie-game
Bad rpg
Anonymous No.3866708 [Report]
>shit plot that makes no sense, just accept whatever bro
>girl drama and more girl drama
>''main'' character gets deleted, making investments useless
>shitty timed hits combat that feels off and parrying on enemy attacks for endless combos
>no true customization, just switch around elemental weakness or buff stacks bro
>pictos are either worthless or OP. too much nonsense management
>world looks nice at first but just a shitty Unreal copypaste later on

Although i did enjoy some of the non-mc characters, i didn't enjoy the game by the end.
Anonymous No.3866722 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
I haven't played a new game since witcher 3
Anonymous No.3866748 [Report]
The game really needed an elf coated in a thin layer of slime/oil to follow the party around letting you know when things were racist or bigoted.
Anonymous No.3866751 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
>this game is so anti-woke and based! you chuds should totally like it!
Why do E33 posts always sound so suspicious? Like they're astroturfed or something?
Anonymous No.3866773 [Report] >>3866792 >>3866828 >>3866835
The game isn't good, but normalfags are too afraid to admit it because it's also emotionally manipulative and makes you believe that it's better than it actually is with the music and the over-the-top "sad" writing.
Anonymous No.3866774 [Report]
There was a bigass thread but it was full of idiots who shouted "RETARD" at anyone bitching about the badly done plot twist in Act 3
Anonymous No.3866792 [Report]
>>3866773
>it's also emotionally manipulative
Kids say the darndest things
Anonymous No.3866828 [Report] >>3866849
>>3866773
>normalfags
I fucking hate cis scum too sis
Anonymous No.3866835 [Report]
>>3866773
>it's also emotionally manipulative
More importantly, it's emotionally manipulative outside of the game too. Random French indie title comes out with good production values and turn based combat. Take that Squenix! You could have done turn based FF games and be successful too, see? Let's support E33 to send a message to Squenix that they don't need to make FF into an action series!
Anonymous No.3866847 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)

It´s a J´RPG though. Genres are about fitting a previously established criteria. Like, you define which aspects are common to JRPGs and then games that fit that bill are labeled as such.
Anonymous No.3866849 [Report] >>3866861
>>3866828
I love pussy more than anything
Never done anything with a man and never thought about it
Being with hundreds of women
I am a white, tall, handsome and smart Chad
Cope, seethe, dilate and kys
Anonymous No.3866861 [Report]
>>3866849
>Cope, seethe, dilate and kys
No “white, tall, handsome and smart Chad” would spend their time on the internet writing such things to strangers
Anonymous No.3866958 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
Because its not some garbage janky Crpg
Anonymous No.3866977 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
Sage
Anonymous No.3866983 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
>no gays?
Honestly yeah. They set out to make a "classic jrpg" but completely forgot the homolust.
Anonymous No.3866984 [Report]
>unreal blurslop
lmao
Anonymous No.3866996 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
quite literally just bought this as it's on sale and I've been waiting
it's the first modern game I've been looking forward to in so long that I actually can't remember what the last was
I will now be leaving the thread before I get spoiled, but I am giddy with anticipation
Anonymous No.3867380 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
I enjoyed it for what it was, refreshing new IP in a sea of remake slop. I doubt I'll ever replay it, but it was worth the money.
Anonymous No.3869079 [Report] >>3869106 >>3869155
>>3866451 (OP)
I sunk over 200 hours into this game. It deserves GOTY25 for sure.
Anonymous No.3869085 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
It's because it's normalfag core and not a good game. It's the kind of slop Dragon Age Inquisition is where normalfags rave about something incredibly mid, but then instantly forget about it the next year.

Anyone that excessively praises E33 is just filtering themselves with a litmus test to see who is a tasteless shallow idiot.
Anonymous No.3869086 [Report]
>>3866478
If a youtuber is so retarded they use ai slop for their clickbait, they don't deserve a click.
I've seen bait on these boards with more effort put into them.
Anonymous No.3869106 [Report] >>3869117
>>3869079
kek nope. besides the goty awards are a joke, just a journo popularity vote that barely played any games that year
Anonymous No.3869117 [Report] >>3869122 >>3869155
>>3869106
>Rapeape ToT edition
Nintoddlers everyone
Anonymous No.3869122 [Report] >>3869124 >>3869161 >>3869728
>>3869117
yes anon, french people riffing off a standard jrpg except with shitty dodge slop combat sure is deserving of goty for innovating and being so different. especially when they rehash the same old fake world story that has been done a million times and much better before. zoom zoom
Anonymous No.3869124 [Report] >>3869128
>>3869122
Funny way of saying you have a skill issue, LMAO! Stick to your toddler games, manchild.
Anonymous No.3869128 [Report] >>3869130
>>3869124
>e33
>takes skill
is that what you tell yourself when you can put on your diapers without your mom's help? fucking kek, e33 fanboys are funny and delusional
Anonymous No.3869130 [Report] >>3869136
>>3869128
Every accusation is a confession. Cry harder, nintoddler.
Anonymous No.3869136 [Report] >>3869141
>>3869130
>starts accusing people and insulting them
>keeps doing it in every post
>now says 'every accusation is a confession'
mega kek, such an obvious e33 mad people aren't praising his game he's shilling for and then owning himself
Anonymous No.3869137 [Report] >>3869150
>>3866451 (OP)
It's because only mentally unstable and insecure people like it.
Anonymous No.3869141 [Report] >>3869147
>>3869136
The lack of self-awareness from nintoddlers thinking they are in any position to criticize anything is simply hilarious.
Anonymous No.3869144 [Report] >>3869150
>>3866451 (OP)
People who hate E33 are inherently brown until proven otherwise.
Anonymous No.3869147 [Report] >>3869148
>>3869141
you literally called the kettle black and put other people's intelligence into question, lol
Anonymous No.3869148 [Report] >>3869152
>>3869147
I can say the same about (you) and your lukewarm posts. Cry harder.
Anonymous No.3869150 [Report] >>3869154
>>3869144
The only people that like E33 are as said >>3869137 because every single one of them is a massive fanboy that takes personal offense at every single criticism raised against the game and attacks them. That if anything is overly aggressive brown behavior.
Anonymous No.3869152 [Report] >>3869156
>>3869148
lel, i'm not the one that outright started accusing the other poster and then tried to say accusations is confession. you fucking owned yourself idiot.
Anonymous No.3869154 [Report] >>3869158
>>3869150
You're blown out your ass lmao if you think it's some sacred cow. It's just a good game and the hate it receives is artificial, cult-like behavior. I played it forwards and backwards to know that it's good. Cry harder.
Anonymous No.3869155 [Report] >>3869162
>>3869079
>>3869117
Why does Clair Obscur deserve GOTY over any other game this year? I need a good laugh, so let's hear it.
Anonymous No.3869156 [Report] >>3869161
>>3869152
>No argument
>N-no uuu
Your concession: revived and approved
Anonymous No.3869158 [Report] >>3869163
>>3869154
Dude, we literally have a live example of a fanboy blowing their lid because someone dared say it didn't deserve GotY and you're trying to peddle that this extreme fanboyism is a myth? When you demonstrate a similar level of fanboyism yourself? While then trying to say that everyone that dislikes or finds fault in it are faking it because it's such a godlike game? Then you insult me to further cement your fanboyism. Ok dude. You literally proved absolutely everything I said correct, which means you're probably brown.
Anonymous No.3869161 [Report] >>3869167
>>3869156
>argument
you have no argument. all you did was accuse me then say anyone that accuses someone confesses. the only one that even presented a kind of argument was me with >>3869122 cry more baby
Anonymous No.3869162 [Report] >>3869165 >>3869704
>>3869155
I'm not into giving essay long answers, so I'll make it short. The sum of all its parts together makes it a well put-together game. Not saying it's revolutionary but it does it well. The music, story, characters, gameplay, world-building, etc are all solid and make for a cohesive experience.
Anonymous No.3869163 [Report] >>3869172
>>3869158
>Say good thing about game
>Y-YOU'RE FANBOYING LOLOLOLOL
Are you "opinions" just a collective of 4chang shitposts or did you even play the game?
Anonymous No.3869165 [Report] >>3869169
>>3869162
So it deserves GOTY because it's "good". Wow, I'm sold. Then you're right the GOTY should go to Hades 2 then.
Anonymous No.3869167 [Report]
>>3869161
If I have no argument then neither do you. Just continue bitching because that's all you're good for.
Anonymous No.3869169 [Report] >>3869178
>>3869165
Go watch a video essay if you want a drawn out answer or just play the game since it's on goypass or pay $40 to goyben since it's on sale.
Anonymous No.3869172 [Report] >>3869174
>>3869163
Dude, you're not even saying a good thing about the game. You're attacking me and others because they don't say a good thing about the game and getting clearly emotionally upset about it. You LITERALLY proved everything I said correct that this game has overdefensive fanboys that attack anyone not praising the game, calling anyone that doesn't call it amazing just a faking troll and unprovoked insulted me multiple times.

All you're doing is attacking people. Not discussing the game or even saying what's exactly good about it. I would suggest you get a reality check, but clearly that's not gonna happen when you demonstrated you are a massively irrational, overdefensive fanboy.
Anonymous No.3869174 [Report] >>3869180
>>3869172
Mindless shitting on something is just mental illness. Did you even play the game?
Anonymous No.3869178 [Report] >>3869181
>>3869169
This is literally a thread about the game and someone is asking what is so good about it. If you struggle to verbalize it then that means there is nothing good about it and you have no interest in discussing the game and are just making excuses.
Anonymous No.3869180 [Report] >>3869185
>>3869174
Thanks for proving again how correct my initial statement was. Now I can move on since every single E33 proves how insane and mentally ill the fanboys are. Even the classic accusations of people not even playing the game when they've laid out every single plot point, pivotal game moment and detailed game features.
Thanks for stroking my ego.
Anonymous No.3869181 [Report] >>3869187
>>3869178
So because I didn't write you a thesis on why it's good that means it's shit? I'm just not into giving long-winded answers. Go to plebbit for that. Honestly, it's not my problem what you think because my experience is my own and if my explanation wasn't good enough for you then that's yours problem. Seek the answers you want elsewhere if you can't find it here but you won't because all you want to do is mindlessly shit on something you never played.
Anonymous No.3869182 [Report] >>3869186
>someone says e33 doesn't deserve goty
>thread instantly implodes from shill asspain
kek
Anonymous No.3869185 [Report]
>>3869180
k lol enjoy your fake internet points lil bro lmao even
Anonymous No.3869186 [Report]
>>3869182
E33 will win GOTY :)
Anonymous No.3869187 [Report] >>3869191
>>3869181
>So because I didn't write you a thesis on why it's good that means it's shit?
Mega schizo, I never implied the game was shit if you couldn't say why specifically it deserves GotY. Do you suffer from some victim complex.
Anonymous No.3869188 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
I beat it. Had fun. But ultimately, it's just a classic final fantasy clone.
Anonymous No.3869191 [Report]
>>3869187
>then there's nothing good about it
My words aren't gospel. It's simply my expression on what I think is a good game. If I say something is good that's because I think it's good. If that isn't good enuf4u then that's not my problem lol. Millions of other people share my opinion and have verbalized why it's good better than I ever will. Seek those out if you want a better explanation.
Anonymous No.3869203 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
>no gays
unironically
Anonymous No.3869280 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
/vrpg/ is a gay board
Anonymous No.3869308 [Report]
>>3866466
It's a JRPG for people who hate JRPGs that's why it's so soulless
Anonymous No.3869451 [Report] >>3869454 >>3869457
>>3866451 (OP)
Expedition 33 had a great story, great characters and great music.
The gameplay was fine, passable.
The obvious comparison is Final Fantasy. The better written final fantasy games have a 2/10 story, so it's a great relief to finally play a JRPG with a good story.
Anonymous No.3869454 [Report] >>3869457
>>3869451
A mature story written for adults is a breath of fresh air
Anonymous No.3869457 [Report]
>>3869451
>>3869454
>so it's a great relief to finally play a JRPG with a good story.
>A mature story written for adults is a breath of fresh air
>clair obscur

Now this is funny. It's even funnier when you pretend it isn't obvious bait and some idiots might actually believe this.
Anonymous No.3869482 [Report] >>3869484
>3869457
Seethe
Anonymous No.3869484 [Report]
>>3869482
Anonymous No.3869496 [Report]
Lol attention seeking whore
Anonymous No.3869704 [Report] >>3869706
>>3869162
That’s true, Hades has tons of lgbt themes, and that’s what’s most important in games in the current year.
Anonymous No.3869706 [Report] >>3869710 >>3869715
>>3869704
Like it or not, Hades has bad a very big impact on the roguelike market and games in general. Many games have directly copied it in terms of design and structure. It was very influential and one could argue revolutionized and improved the roguelike genre.

The same cannot be said for E33.
Anonymous No.3869709 [Report]
>3869706
>Comparing the impact of a game that came out in 2020 versus [current year]
Anonymous No.3869710 [Report]
>>3869706
10 years in the trenches of gamergate, and it’s finally over. A WRPG with no lgbt themes is winning GOTY. The chuds won. Time to go back to musical theater, abd “prestige” tv sis.
Anonymous No.3869713 [Report]
>QTE combat.
Not an rpg. Mario RPG and Legend of Dragoon already showed how fucking awful this is. Knowing modern games it will be focused on story instead of gameplay.
Anonymous No.3869715 [Report] >>3869721
>>3869706
RogueliTe. Hades is not a roguelike, not even close.
Using words for what they mean is not a slight against you.
Anonymous No.3869721 [Report]
>>3869715
Doesn't matter what you think, what matters is what most people think. Most people haven't even played Rogue. For most people Hades is the gold standard for roguelikes.
Anonymous No.3869728 [Report] >>3869733
>>3869122
Nobody wants innovation. You are simultaneously complaining about it and saying the best games are innovative. If it works and people like it stop fucking with it.
Anonymous No.3869731 [Report]
>last good rpg was a translation of a 2015 rpg maker game
It's all so tiresome.
Anonymous No.3869733 [Report] >>3869740 >>3869827
>>3869728
>Nobody wants innovation.
For your sake, I'll pretend you never wrote this.
And there is nothing innovative about OPs game. If anything it's regression of the genre, since we've gotten much better and innovative games ages ago.
Anonymous No.3869737 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
When's the GOTY awards? This month?
Anonymous No.3869740 [Report]
>>3869733
You can go back to Legend of Dragoon for an even more basic version of this. And to the Super Mario RPG made by Square in 1996, which also has timing-based combat.
Anonymous No.3869827 [Report] >>3869834
>>3869733
>select attack
>play some arbitrary minigame that if done correctly powers up your attack somehow
I prefer the way SMRPG, Legend Of Dragoon and Vagrant Story did it by tying your button presses to your attack animations. To me it makes more sense and feels more satisfying to press a button as the weapon hits the enemy
Anonymous No.3869834 [Report] >>3869836
>>3869827
Successful hits was about the only enjoyable thing about Vagrant Story's ambitious yet flawed combat lol, even if I did suck at timing
Anonymous No.3869836 [Report] >>3869872
>>3869834
Once you figure out how the equipment works it's smooth sailing
Anonymous No.3869862 [Report] >>3869871 >>3869886 >>3869900
>>3866458
>It was a good game that makes 0 lasting impact on people.
I don't think that's going to be true in the long term. Expedition 33 was way cheaper to produce than, say, FF7R but basically captured the exact same audience. Publishers would be mad not to capitalize on that. E33 revealed two things:
1) JRPGs are still viable in the West but Japanese studios are out-of-touch with Western audiences. Japanese tropes that were once popular because they were foreign and novel now just seem tired and cliched.
2) The audience is completely fine with cheaper abstractions like turn-based combat and overworld maps. Insisting on expensive real-time combat systems and open worlds is burning money just to impress other developers.
Anonymous No.3869865 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
really bad story and character heads are too big
Anonymous No.3869871 [Report] >>3869958
>>3869862
>JRPGs are still viable in the West
Expedition 33 didn't reveal that at all, everyone already fucking knew that.
>Expedition 33 was way cheaper to produce than, say, FF7R but basically captured the exact same audience
It captured half that audience.
Anonymous No.3869872 [Report]
>>3869836
Even then Vagrant Story's combat isn't terribly fun or interesting. Switching weapons gets boring quickly. I still respect their attempt at something unique.
Anonymous No.3869886 [Report] >>3869958
>>3869862
>Insisting on expensive real-time combat systems and open worlds is burning money just to impress other developers.
Elden Ring has sold over 30 million copies, making it FromSoftware's best-selling game and one of the best-selling games of all time.
Anonymous No.3869900 [Report] >>3869930 >>3869958
>>3869862
>I don't think that's going to be true in the long term. Expedition 33 was way cheaper to produce than, say, FF7R but basically captured the exact same audience.
Except it didn't. FF7R appealed to people with nostalgia for the original or players familiar with the series through other games/osmosis.
FF7R also sold well, it was FF7R2 that sold less than Square hoped (because most people got their fix with FF7R or felt burned by what they did narratively and game wise).
Games like Persona 5 are also way cheaper, along with most JRPGs.

E33 appealed mainly to some casuals and normalfags that don't play JRPGs much (and it wasn't a huge success or anything, selling 8 million or something).
Anyone that thinks E33 did or is anything special is just an idiot. It's shitty western slop in bog standard JRPG trappings with shitty dodge slop gimmick in the combat. Stuff like the art direction, story and characters are all just as bad as always in western slop.
Anonymous No.3869927 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
For me, the combat was too twitchy. Didn't like it. Felt like a turn based Dark Souls. Played it for a few hours and quit. Uninstalled. Played the DQ3 remake instead.
Anonymous No.3869930 [Report]
>>3869900
Yeah Todd dropped Oblivion Remastered like it was no biggie and it completely mogged those french weebs

But oblivion is GOTY already so might as well give it to those JRPG homos, maybe they can fund a better game next time lmao
Anonymous No.3869958 [Report] >>3869964
>>3869871
Okay, sure. A lot of other JRPGs like Persona have seen success. But E33 is a strong sign that a Westerner can use the same format and find a hometown audience.

>>3869886
>Elden Ring
Souls games appeal to a completely different audience. Those games are much more about the moment-to-moment combat with a very esoteric story which the player doesn't need to pay attention to at all.

>>3869900
>E33 appealed mainly to some casuals and normalfags that don't play JRPGs much
Yes, selling a lot of copies means appealing to casuals and normalfags. No shit.
>and it wasn't a huge success or anything, selling 8 million or something
You're not thinking like an investor. $40 x 8 million copies old x 70% earning on each sale = $224 million (plus whatever deal they got from Microsoft) on a budget that was reportedly under $30 million. That's a fantastic return.
Anonymous No.3869964 [Report] >>3869980
>>3869958
"a lot of copies" is very generous wording.

>You're not thinking like an investor. $40 x 8 million copies old
I didn't say it sold 8 million (that's what FF7 remake sold, probably more by now). Don't you even know how much E33 sold yet you're blabbing on about the sales and success of it?

And no I am absolutely factoring in investor logic. The larger the company the more total money it needs to return, since it needs to be noticeable for the investor reports. It doesn't matter for them if a game cost peanuts to make and did a 500% return if it's not even a blip on their earning report.

You have games like Dispatch selling over 1 million in 10 days, yet I'm not seeing you going on about that despite being more impressive in terms of sales.

The reality is E33 is a fluke that got extremely lucky they managed to sucker in a bunch of normalfag journous and idiots. The game itself is mid at best and does absolutely zero innovation or stuff that's impressive or well executed.
If you liked it, then cool, but don't go under this delusion that this is some tentpole game that will revoltionize shit or that people will even remember it a year from now.
Remember Black Myth Wukong? No one does, despite the """hype""", for very similar reasons.
Anonymous No.3869980 [Report] >>3869987
>>3869964
>Remember Black Myth Wukong?
Yes

Do you suffer from memory loss perhaps?
Anonymous No.3869984 [Report]
>>3866456
fpbp
Anonymous No.3869987 [Report] >>3869996 >>3870029 >>3870166
>>3869980
>being disingenuous
BMW literally never comes up in conversations now, doesn't get buzz, no coverage, no "remember this amazing game", no nothing. It came and went and had no staying power.

Directly contrast that to something like Nier Automata, Hades or even Lies of P.
Anonymous No.3869996 [Report] >>3869999
>>3869987
>BMW literally never comes up in conversations now
Omg you like literally brought it up just now literally
Anonymous No.3869999 [Report] >>3870001
>>3869996
>bringing it up to prove a point about a flash in the pan popular game that quickly become forgotten
>omg you brought it up!!!!! so it's not forgotten!!!!!!!1
This is like trying to communicate with a retard. Why did I even bother.
Anonymous No.3870001 [Report]
>>3869999
Well I'm literally replying to a literal retard right now
Anonymous No.3870022 [Report]
I can't figure out if this Expedition 33 guy is a paid shill or just schizophrenic
Anonymous No.3870029 [Report] >>3870118 >>3870166
>>3869987
> Hades

What mechanically did it add to the roguelite genre? I saw the art style and decided on that alone to not play it, but I do like actual roguelike.
Anonymous No.3870118 [Report] >>3870161 >>3870166
>>3870029
Bigger focus on narrative that also adapts to how you play, how you've progressed and updates itself after runs.
Room structure where after you clear it you pick a randomized upgrade and path to take.
Focus on you always unlocking stuff, even when failing runs and short quests broken up over multiple runs for characters.
Etc.
After Hades, there were a lot of Hade-likes or games inspired by it. From Turtles games like TMNT: Splintered Fate (which is good) or a beat-em-up like Absolum. It's easy to spod a game inspired by Hades and there are a bunch of them.
Anonymous No.3870161 [Report] >>3870181
>>3870118
Oh, so the Binding of Isaac?
Anonymous No.3870162 [Report]
>>3866458
spbp

And I liked it overall and think it will have impact on the market. But there's legitimately very little to discuss.
Anonymous No.3870166 [Report]
>>3869987
>>3870029
>>3870118
I think both Hades games are not particularly original but okay-ish. But they have a ton of staying power from the divisive character and narrative content - people still talk about whether Zag is a lil bitch and whether Chronos can be forgiven and shit.

I think that for a game that is similarly pulled hard by visuals and designs, Hades wins massively in staying power by, may Allah forgive me for uttering this sentiment, being much more accessible. It's characters and themes are very simple, recognizable, obvious and relatable. It tells an understandable and captivating story of a dysfunctional family and it's path towards understanding through a very accessible setup of Greek mythology, and there's a plenty of takes anyone can have about the way it unfolds.

Meanwhile E33 kinda disappears up it's own asshole with it's Canvases and Painters and Chromas and Gommages and reveals behind reveals. It takes ages to even spell out that ultimately it is also a story about a dysfunctional family of godlike individuals, and then - do I relate to Verso? Not really, I know nothing of the state of... whatever the hell Verso is ultimately supposed to be. Do I care about Dessendre family? Pretty much no, we barely get to really know most of them, and they somehow do a very poor job of appearing as a family which we understand as such. Do I have a lot of opinions regarding one's right for... isolation in solipsistic creation? The made-upness of Canvas people? I dunno man. And I don't think it's just me being a brainlet. More leaning towards E33 telling a narrative that you have to very precisely vibe with to really care, and even if you do, it's in a very passive fashion.
Anonymous No.3870181 [Report]
>>3870161
Except not. Have you even played Hades? Your comment suggests no and and you just want to be disingenuous.
Anonymous No.3870182 [Report] >>3870184
Hey hades fanboy, make your own thread already
Anonymous No.3870184 [Report]
>>3870182
Hey retard, I'm not the one laser focusing on Hades and keep asking about Hades while ignoring literally everything else brought up.
I brought up Black Myth Wukong, Dispatch, Nier Automata and Lies of P just recently. Hades was just one example I brought up as a game having staying power and influence on many other games.
If you want people to stop talking about Hades, maybe fucking stop mentioning and replying to things about Hades, genius.
Anonymous No.3870186 [Report]
I've been playing all the new rpgs on Game Pass and so far nothing has lived up to the satisfaction of perfectly timing parries against a thumping French disco synth. It's the only new rpg that feels original.

https://youtu.be/61wbti7tIHw?si=u0xucnpCHz8P4FMu
Anonymous No.3870190 [Report]
I am now injecting Croc: Legend of the Gobbos into the conversation, because I like Croc: Legend of the Gobbos.

I think Croc: Legend of the Gobbos had more staying power than Expedition 33. Literally everyone talks about it constantly.
Anonymous No.3870192 [Report]
I refuse to play f****h videogames
Anonymous No.3870402 [Report]
>>3866492
>play for 5 minutes
>everyone is beautiful and french full head of hair
>loading screen shows my hideous reflection
>no hair, uninstall and cry
Anonymous No.3870405 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
Combat looks like Persona with SMRPG gimmicks.
Style looks comically French.
>>3866706
>Good movie-game
Am I the only boomer who still can't stand 99% of modern videogame cutscenes acted out by 3D models? Even when the writing occasionally manages to not be bloated cringe, the stupidly awkward face animations and body language ruin it. Even with the modern 3D graphics cards pushing 20 million polygons per frame and super high resolution textures rendering the tiniest skin blemishes, the actual quality of the "acting" is just as terrible as it was in the ps2 era.
Anonymous No.3870408 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
I hope e33's success encourages the remaster of Lost Odyssey
Anonymous No.3870409 [Report]
>>3866451 (OP)
>it's good because... you have to press buttons during attacks in combat!
lumfao