It's over
https://files.catbox.moe/80z6tb.png (embed) - Bormann TNO2 flowchart (never releasing).
https://files.catbox.moe/j8tp21.pdf - December roundtable notes. Germany never.
https://files.catbox.moe/c5pdqt.png (embed) - Japan rework. OTL PMs only, please.
https://files.catbox.moe/xlhrjj.pdf - Sweden proposal. Dev back from break, will respond to all bait.
https://files.catbox.moe/ycctp0.png (embed) - Sweden flowchart. We lost Pakt Sweden for this OTL-fest.
https://files.catbox.moe/uq883w.pdf - Brazil-Argentina war design doc with mandatory non-canon nukes.
https://files.catbox.moe/m4x325.png (embed) - Fash Brazil content you'll never get to play.
https://files.catbox.moe/l70qhw.pdf - Burgundian Eulogy: Burgundy 2 was real but got scrapped like everything else.
https://files.catbox.moe/zff5y4.pdf - Serov "facelift" document. The first leg in the now confirmed Komi rework.
https://files.catbox.moe/ymgaur.pdf - Amur rework doc. Over two years in dev hell, still no release date.
https://files.catbox.moe/48jovf.png (embed) - Kingdom of Montenegro flowchart.
https://files.catbox.moe/xfzdpv.png (embed) - Croatia flowchart #1.
https://files.catbox.moe/n2227q.png (embed) - Croatia flowchart #2.
https://files.catbox.moe/8oi80v.png (embed) - Old Bulgaria. You were robbed of Bulgaroslavia, anon.
https://files.catbox.moe/2ru4q1.png (embed) - Thailand flowchart.
https://files.catbox.moe/iwmxg6.pdf - Manchuria doc #1.
https://files.catbox.moe/cgaqrz.pdf - Manchuria doc #2.
https://files.catbox.moe/y2hc34.pdf - Manchuria doc #3.
https://files.catbox.moe/96kjev.pdf - Manchuria doc #5.
https://files.catbox.moe/vdpi8k.pdf - Red Italy proposal.
https://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf - New Granada walltext.
https://files.catbox.moe/r86sw7.pdf - 200p walltext about Colombian soccer mechanics.
https://files.catbox.moe/4w4k3k.png (embed) - Turkestan Legion rework flowchart.
my retarded ass forgot remove the embed text
oh WELL
Second for fuck TNO jannies, devs and their sycophants
>>2104184 (OP)>Early>Not having the leaks prepared>Not having the news prepared>Now having a meme readyFake bake.
But it's OK, I doubt the Baker wants to bother going through hat last train wreck of a thread.
Leaks #2.
https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal. Read all about this hot new TCT mod.
https://files.catbox.moe/izg02l.png - 6th (?) space race mech rework mockup.
https://files.catbox.moe/2ln5tz.png - New Congressional mechanic leak.
https://files.catbox.moe/3ynutc.png - More Americanized Denmark GUIs.
https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc for writers. It's what you think it'll be.
https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Vote Pig Nixon tree mega leak.
https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - VP Reuther tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - VP Schlafly path. Peak evil Republican fascism let's go!
https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - VP Yorty tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP rework leak, Hiram Fong replaces Romney scrapping years of work in the process because it "didn't fit the Republican narrative".
https://files.catbox.moe/0iyr6c.jpg - RepubliKKKan GUI (yes really).
https://files.catbox.moe/71ilh5.png - Central America design. Half of Germany still has its content disabled by the way.
https://files.catbox.moe/edk50c.png - Costa Rica design chart. No, none of this will ever be playable.
https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart. Many happenings, out shared outcome.
https://files.catbox.moe/djf9rg.pdf - Latest Moskowien rework proposal. Years of work flushed down the toilet for less gameplay and no wars.
https://files.catbox.moe/9nqmlk.pdf - Iberian Wars rework document.
https://files.catbox.moe/0m6sx5.png - Starting map of the new Caribbean
https://files.catbox.moe/fgb3kj.png - Starting map of the new Morocco
https://files.catbox.moe/zh06f9.png - British Guiana flowchart
https://files.catbox.moe/5anjuv.png - 5 new Caribbean nations flowchart
https://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - British West Indies lore document
https://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution for TNO.
>>2104199Here's the meme of the thread
DE GAULLE IS ALIVE
REPEAT
DE GAULLE IS ALIVE
REMAIN CALM
THE RECLAMATION CONTINUES
FRANCE IS NOT DEAD YET
Do we even want a news summary from last thread? OK, here's your summary: All African content is being deleted, America is nuking Haiti, and Discord jannies are awful people.
>>2104207Forgot the huge reveal that Goebbels is still alive and kicking
>>2104209Unironic question does he even do anything?
>>2104210Probably die during the Kampzeit considering they said the 4 contenders will have to deal with him.
>>2104203>An old Brazil memeYou know that last thread was such a fucking train wreck that I'm just glad it's over.
>>2104220I also got this one but I figured it was even gayer
>>2104217Either that or a minister role then.
Are TNO devs trying to kill these threads by having absolutely no one care about their mod any more?
>>2104217he isn't a führer candidate? he was probably the closest to that position as he was a propagandist and public speaker
>>2104240>he isn't a führer candidate?No
>>2104210He's going to fire the starting pistol on the kampfzeit by preemptively declaring himself fuhrer the moment Hitler dies in the name of saving the reich and Hitler's immortal vision from corrupt bureaucrats (Bormann and Goering), liberals (Speer) and deranged subversives (Himmler) by purging them.
Everyone will understandably dislike this unpopular creep attempting a coup to kill them all, so they will all unite to put him down like a dog, before fracturing into a power struggle over who actually gets to be the fuhrer once the seditious traitor Goebbels is dealt with. It'll all be very dramatic and expose the deep fissures between the clades as the world spectates these rapid reversals in the reich's leadership.
>>2104248Based, he's going out but he's gonna do it like a champ
>>2104248>Revive a highly requested character>Let him be a glorified plot device that goes away after accomplishing nothing that couldn't be done without him in the storyIt's like they're going out of their way to be disappointing.
>>2104257>Let him be a glorified plot device that goes away after accomplishing nothing that couldn't be done without him in the storyFirst time?
>>2104260That's different since they went through the trouble of completely reworking a country and tons of lore to do absolutely nothing with the fruits of that labor.
>>2104261but enough about the OTL
>>2104248Very nice allo-historical allusion. Goebbels became the Reich Chancellor for exactly 1 day between Hitler's suicide and his own.
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A truly riveting dev diary where nothing happens. Remember to be the bigger chuds anons
>>2104248It makes a lot of sense with nudevs logic that this is exactly what will happen.
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Nudevs are being cooked in X too lol. They had also been widely criticized on reddit until the mods deleted and downvoted everyone complaining
going through le leaks on the subreddit
why is the mod full chud now with the ability to nuke niggers and eternal british colonisation of rhodesia and kenya
and like 5 remaining jews because the holocaust still happens
and wholesome 100 reformist nazi bormann
>>2104335don't forget, no GCW either
no Moskowien CW
I don't get how Ukraine will even work now, it really doesn't fit with the new lore.
The army would just invade to help the RK
>>2104317why do TNO chuds share the same opinion as NAFO?
TNO Requiem could not hav come at a better time
De-Gaulle my beloved, Tout Est Accompli
>>2104184 (OP)>Reposting the DV dev diaries for anyone who needs a quick link:>https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1m982jz/development_diary_xxxi_débrouillezvous_part_14/>https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1m982oo/development_diary_xxxi_débrouillezvous_part_24/>https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1m982us/development_diary_xxxi_débrouillezvous_part_34/>https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1m982wu/development_diary_xxxi_débrouillezvous_part_44/
>"we are not going to cut Atlantropa/Burgundy/Goring's wild ride/the German Civil War/the NPP/the Africa RKs/the Congo lake or integrate DV into the main mod"
>"sike"
the modern tno experience
Hey everyone,
After careful thought, we’ve made the decision to officially bring 2WRW to a close. Over the past months, it’s become clear that both community engagement and our own drive to continue development have tapered off. Despite our efforts, the overall enjoyment among players wasn’t where we had hoped, and forcing things forward wouldn’t feel fair to anyone involved.
We want to specifically thank Rei for her work as a designer—her contributions really shaped the project’s aesthetic and vision. 2WRW wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did without her input.
The mod files and resources will stay available for anyone interested in exploring or building on them, but we won’t be issuing further updates or support.
Thanks again to everyone who played, gave feedback, and helped shape the project. We’re looking ahead to new things, hopefully with fresh energy and shared enthusiasm.
-Five
Reninder that Strategic Munchies is a pedophile
>>2104353Why did this retard even deny it even when dozens of docs were leaked years ago+the devs were implicit about GCW removal already
(also, ignore this spam posts and just denounce it, its not even funny anymore bruh)
>>2104344If they integrate the Free France submod they will make me download it fr
>>2104184 (OP)It is January 1, 2020. (You) are now PinkPanzer.
How would (you) manage the development of TNO from here on out, knowing what you know now?
The NuTNO devs are souless ghouls.
>>2104368delete the shadow dev chat.
that's the most important.
DO NOT LET THOSE MESSAGES LEAK AT ALL COSTS
>>2104368consoom the estrogen pills
>>2104353They would gladly remove Tabby if they could get away with it.
>>2104383The only reason he wasnt removed yet is because Russia is stuck in dev hell for like 2 years (thanks Corn), meaning he wont be removed for now. But they have plans to rework komi, so you already know what to expect
>>2104383>>2104387What Corn himself confirmed was that Komi would be reworked, with Ordosocialists moved to Zlatoust and Tabby getting "common sense" changes including the removal of several "over the top" events and such. Considering how much they lie, notably with the "there has been no such announcement about this, its fan speculation" before they confirm it a year later I except eventually there may be deeper changes. Thankfully Corn can't code for shit
>>2104337I'm convinced that the war in Ukraine would be cut if it hadn't gotten so far along when the nudevs fully hijacked the mod. You'd just have had that one GUI and that's it.
>>2104391I'd forgotten about the Tabby soft rework. It's been at least a year since that leak.
>>2104184 (OP)notice how it's only the mongolian basket weaving board people that angry like a monkey when hearing this DV news?
>>2104438Last thread had plenty of screenshots of Redditors being angry and their comments being removed but thanks for trying to spin the idea that anyone is happy to hear that all they can look forward to is having fewer playable tags.
>>2104449The only negative comments removed were the ones that were disrespectful. You can clearly still see plenty of negative comments that were voiced in a respectful manner.
>>2104457It's quite difficult to see a deleted comment but I don't infer from the conversation that followed that you were just trying to remove harmful comments. The most over-moderated HOI4 Reddit yet again coming down hard against any criticism that isn't cushioned with apologies and reassurances that they still love the mod.
Fuck Tabby
Fuck TFR
Czar won, Corn won, Mango won.
>>2104457I just checked part 1 of the dev diary
Case in point:
>>2104459I'm not a dev
>>2104464This is getting so tiring.
This is why this thread has gone to shit
Constant paranoia
Imagine coming here from the discord fleeing what has become a circlejerk
To end up in another circlejerk but this time it's the opposite
No nuance, no neutrality
Just hate
>>2104465Your biggest announcement all year is that you're deleting all playable content in Africa and that you're replacing it with OTL-like skeletons. Of course there's nothing but hate coming your way.
>>2104466Again I'm not a dev
Why be angry at me
>>2104467Okay lets assume you really arent a dev
Why are you constantly defending the Devs then?
If you are supposedly 'fleeing the discord'?
This board actually allows alot of opinions, aslong as they arent just shilling for the devs
>>2104471I'm not defending the devs
I was just correcting what
>>2104449said about them deleting all negative comments
which is simply not true
so I stated the facts
is this defending?
Honestly if this was it's own separate project DV and all the devs realism wank would be interesting, perhaps even great. What grinds my gears is that this mod has been reworked to the point where it's no longer recognizable. Are there any attempts to resurrect TNO on an older build or something?
so apparently this is the devs justification on the sweden thing
also
>Germany obviously does prefer continued Anglo-French control, and they're more on the Anglo-French side in their dispute with Sweden, but they aren't gonna totally torpedo their own relations with Sweden over it
>they'll let Britain and France respond to them by attacking Swedish interests but they won't directly join in on attacking Swedish interests with them
>Britain and France (particularly Britain) have plenty of their own ways of fucking with Sweden for this, so Germany is prepared to just let them deal with it
our thoughts?
>>2104467It's just more than a little questionable to defend the moderation team in the face of clear evidence that comments are being deleted.
>>2104476I feel the same way about Antarctica. An interesting niche on its own, hate having it imposed on me especially if it comes with a broken map that I now have to put up with.
>>2104476There are 2 efforts, one is Kiwifarms on a Pre-Atlantropa removal branch, and the other is TNO:Reqiuem aka 2WRW which uses pre-ODF branch.
>>2104478So they're just openly arming Germany's enemies? And Germany, instead of pressuring the country not to arm people shooting at Pakt forces, just let's a Pakt country wage a dirty war with the country? They put sanctions on them to nudge an election in favor of the socdems, but not to get them to stop arming rebels fighting against them?
This just gets dumber and dumber.
TFR dev Munchies/TheLunchKing on reddit is spamming hurtcore csam on the tno discord.
>>2104481I hope Continuation's End releases soon so we know what exactly this sweden content replaced
>>2104482If true not suprised, TFRedditors are pedophiles.
>>2104481Implying germany cares about sum frenchies in bumfuck nowhere.
>>2104485Yes I'm sure they care about their allies being shot at enough to make a phone call.
Hey everyone,
After careful thought, we’ve made the decision to officially bring 2WRW to a close. Over the past months, it’s become clear that both community engagement and our own drive to continue development have tapered off. Despite our efforts, the overall enjoyment among players wasn’t where we had hoped, and forcing things forward wouldn’t feel fair to anyone involved.
We want to specifically thank Rei for her work as a designer—her contributions really shaped the project’s aesthetic and vision. 2WRW wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did without her input.
The mod files and resources will stay available for anyone interested in exploring or building on them, but we won’t be issuing further updates or support.
Thanks again to everyone who played, gave feedback, and helped shape the project. We’re looking ahead to new things, hopefully with fresh energy and shared enthusiasm.
-Five
goodwinson (dev of the kf tno) is a pedophile btw
>can't win the arguments
>goes back to spamming
This thread is going to be as awful as the last one, isn't it?
>>2104492literally who is even arguing now
>>2104492What are you talking about, I dont see any spam posts?
Anyway, I hope theres some good news tommorow from 2wrw
>>2104492Yes because i fucking hate you retards and i want to crush every bit of soul and life you have left.
>>2104494there will be none, 2wrw devs are slow fucks and incompetent skids. you will wait months for even a slight teaser.
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Someone is spamming the tno discord with cp saying "/vst/ won", care to explain yourselves?
>>2104498They released more playable content this year than TNO has since Guangdong.
>>2104501brazil has longer content than omsk
>>2104502>Antarctium>>2104503>Minigames >Brazil >Non-canon nukes>Non-canon wars
Man I wish the devniggers would get back to work and not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?
>>2104504>Non-canon nukes>Non-canon warsjust like 2wrw!
your entire submod is not canon
cope nigger cope nigger cope nigger cope
Hey everyone,
After careful thought, we’ve made the decision to officially bring 2WRW to a close. Over the past months, it’s become clear that both community engagement and our own drive to continue development have tapered off. Despite our efforts, the overall enjoyment among players wasn’t where we had hoped, and forcing things forward wouldn’t feel fair to anyone involved.
We want to specifically thank Rei for her work as a designer—her contributions really shaped the project’s aesthetic and vision. 2WRW wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did without her input.
The mod files and resources will stay available for anyone interested in exploring or building on them, but we won’t be issuing further updates or support.
Thanks again to everyone who played, gave feedback, and helped shape the project. We’re looking ahead to new things, hopefully with fresh energy and shared enthusiasm.
-Five
>>2104507You know damn well that I'm talking about TNO's wars being non-canon within itself and not integration. Or for that matter, Germany dropping non-canonical nukes over Ukraine to preserve its food supply.
>>2104510silver is right
you cant just ignore that
hence content ends
>>2104506Are you seriously trying to create drama over people just chatting in general?
>>2104511Literally every other mod on the planet does it better. If KX can add the world adapting to wars, why can't you? Why are you the only people that do this?
>>2104514the difference is that the focus of tno is on the narrative
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1m9nfki/how_do_you_feel_about_d%C3%A9brouillezvous/
Let's voice our opinions, see if we get banned.
Hey everyone,
After careful thought, we’ve made the decision to officially bring 2WRW to a close. Over the past months, it’s become clear that both community engagement and our own drive to continue development have tapered off. Despite our efforts, the overall enjoyment among players wasn’t where we had hoped, and forcing things forward wouldn’t feel fair to anyone involved.
We want to specifically thank Rei for her work as a designer—her contributions really shaped the project’s aesthetic and vision. 2WRW wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did without her input.
The mod files and resources will stay available for anyone interested in exploring or building on them, but we won’t be issuing further updates or support.
Thanks again to everyone who played, gave feedback, and helped shape the project. We’re looking ahead to new things, hopefully with fresh energy and shared enthusiasm.
-Five
>>2104518No, go fuck yourself
>>2104515>My mod focuses on the narrative>Therefore I don't have to conclude story arcs that now create nuclear crater-sized plot holes
>>2104522You're a pedophile
>>2104522if they did that brazil would have never released
because they'd have to account for 1. multiple leaders reaction to it. 2. the different ways the war develops. and 3. the different times the war can start
>>2104518Already wrote mine
It's a negative one btw
>>2104524Have you considered not making each of these a Denmark GUI so that they could be accounted for the same way that literally everyone except you do?
>>2104526just go play twr at that point bruh
what sets tno apart is the intricate mechanics
you're asking them to become a mod they aren't and never were
Hey everyone,
After careful thought, we’ve made the decision to officially bring 2WRW to a close. Over the past months, it’s become clear that both community engagement and our own drive to continue development have tapered off. Despite our efforts, the overall enjoyment among players wasn’t where we had hoped, and forcing things forward wouldn’t feel fair to anyone involved.
We want to specifically thank Rei for her work as a designer—her contributions really shaped the project’s aesthetic and vision. 2WRW wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did without her input.
The mod files and resources will stay available for anyone interested in exploring or building on them, but we won’t be issuing further updates or support.
Thanks again to everyone who played, gave feedback, and helped shape the project. We’re looking ahead to new things, hopefully with fresh energy and shared enthusiasm.
-Five
>>2104518Extremely positive.
Current Africa content is an absolute mess and at this point anything else would be an upgrade. I see a lot of people complaining about content removal but realistically it was content for four tags nobody was playing anyways.
Whilst I understand the feeling that DV is too similar to OTL, I actually think it’s less like OTL than what we currently have. Right now every African tag eventually gets led by some OTL leader eventually. DV explores an interesting idea; what if old school imperialism got a fascist makeover? And it does so well.
Every tag seems to play its own unique, interesting role in the geopolitical makeup of Africa, with Ghana, the Ivory Coast, Niger, Guinea, the DRC, the USLA, Tanganyika, the UPC, the CAF and South Africa all having differing geopolitical aims. Right now it’s just Ostafrika, South Africa, Senegal, Cameroon and the Ivory Coast.
Free France in current TNO is one of my least favourite things in the mod. I don’t like the idea of them actually controlling the Ivory Coast outright, and I really really hate reclamation. The Free French being a loose-knit group of ex-colonials providing mercenary/advisory/training support to OFN aligned states whilst still promoting the interests of white people in said states is far more compelling.
Overall it’s a bold, inspiring and very promising update to a region that desperately needs it and I’m glad it was integrated.
>>2104527>you're asking them to become a mod they aren't and never werePlayable?
Able to provide the most basic gameplay satisfaction?
Able to not try and poorly reinvent the wheel and thus delay everything by years?
Be an actual game?
It's a false narrative anyway. TNO always struck a healthy balance between narrative and actual gameplay. That's why people are unhappy about you removing this and going all in on being a VN.
>>2104527Nah what set TNO apart was the setting and having *some* intricate mechanics. The best nations in the entire mod beloved by just about everyone have a total of 3 mechanics during their entire 10 years, and none of them are *complicated*.
Man I wish the devniggers would get back to work and not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?
Man I wish the devniggers would get back to work and not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?Hey everyone,
After careful thought, we’ve made the decision to officially bring 2WRW to a close. Over the past months, it’s become clear that both community engagement and our own drive to continue development have tapered off. Despite our efforts, the overall enjoyment among players wasn’t where we had hoped, and forcing things forward wouldn’t feel fair to anyone involved.
We want to specifically thank Rei for her work as a designer—her contributions really shaped the project’s aesthetic and vision. 2WRW wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did without her input.
The mod files and resources will stay available for anyone interested in exploring or building on them, but we won’t be issuing further updates or support.
Thanks again to everyone who played, gave feedback, and helped shape the project. We’re looking ahead to new things, hopefully with fresh energy and shared enthusiasm.
-Five
>Dunning Kruger janny put both of his copy-pastes into the same post
Man I wish... the devniggers would get back to work 3 bg acnd not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?
Man I wish .. the devctt yr !! niggers would get back to work and not ,? do "gamcc)) bling" in public chats.
cc
Dont they have work to do?
>>2104547Five is homosexual???
I thought he was /ourguy/???
>>2104548I guess the new TNO janny tactic is to just shit up threads so hard that they cannot be used. We're just a few hours in and half the posts are the janny's copy-pastes from the last thread.
After careful thought, we’ve made the decision to officially bring 2WRW to a close. Over the past months, it’s become clear that both community engagement and our own drive to continue development have tapered off. Despite our efforts, the overall enjoyment among players wasn’t where we had hoped, and forcing things forward wouldn’t feel fair to anyone involved.
We want to specifically thank Rei for her work as a designer—her contributions really shaped the project’s aesthetic and vision. 2WRW wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did without her input.
The mod files and resources will stay available for anyone interested in exploring or building on them, but we won’t be issuing further updates or support.
Thanks again to everyone who played, gave feedback, and helped shape the project. We’re looking ahead to new things, hopefully with fresh energy and shared enthusiasm.
-FiveHey everyone,
After careful thought, we’ve made the decision to officially bring 2WRW to a close. Over the past months, it’s become clear that both community engagement and our own drive to continue development have tapered off. Despite our efforts, the overall enjoyment among players wasn’t where we had hoped, and forcing things forward wouldn’t feel fair to anyone involved.
We want to specifically thank Rei for her work as a designer—her contributions really shaped the project’s aesthetic and vision. 2WRW wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did without her input.
The mod files and resources will stay available for anyone interested in exploring or building on them, but we won’t be issuing further updates or support.
Thanks again to everyone who played, gave feedback, and helped shape the project. We’re looking ahead to new things, hopefully with fresh energy and shared enthusiasm.
-FiveHey everyone,
>>2104550>TNO jannyIt's literally a 2wrw psyop
>>2104552*TFR psyop
its been a tfr dev shitting up these threads
Man I wish the devniggers would get back to work and not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?
Man I wish the devniggers would get back to work and not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?Hey everyone,
After careful thought, we’ve made the decision to officially bring 2WRW to a close. Over the past months, it’s become clear that both community engagement and our own drive to continue development have tapered off. Despite our efforts, the overall enjoyment among players wasn’t where we had hoped, and forcing things forward wouldn’t feel fair to anyone involved.
We want to specifically thank Rei for her work as a designer—her contributions really shaped the project’s aesthetic and vision. 2WRW wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did without her input.
The mod files and resources will stay available for anyone interested in exploring or building on them, but we won’t be issuing further updates or support.
Thanks again to everyone who played, gave feedback, and helped shape the project. We’re looking ahead to new things, hopefully with fresh energy and shared enthusiasm.
-Five
>>2104552I'm on the 2WRW team and nah its not, we're all laughing shits about how dumb Kateryna is
shirakamikaiserMan I wish the devniggers would get back to work and not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?Man I wish the devniggers would get back to work and not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?Man I wish the devniggers would get back to work and not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?Man I wish the devniggers would get back to work and not do "gambling" in public chats.
Dont they have work to do?
>>2104556i think it was katernya but now i think its a tfr dev because katernya only talked about tno not anything tfr related
>>2104552I'm on the 2WRW team and yes it is, we're all laughing shits about how dumb Five is
>>2104559It might be multiple people at this point. The early spam here was by Kat but all the TFR spam is from some old grudge fron the Czar era.
>>2104559Wouldnt make sense to be a tfr dev as the supposed tfr devs were also attacking 2WRW, a mod they are actively partnered with.
Anyway I dont see any trolling, yall schizo, lets just talk about the shitty TNO Leaks while we wait for Requiem to fuck TNOs tiny asshole and show them how its done.
>>2104563i agree with the other guy thats its multiple people. possibly both kat or a tno janny attacking 2wrw and a tfr dev attacking anything tno related, but it could also be one of czar's goons.
>>2104565or it's just some random schizo unrelated to any mod team who's just shitting up the thread for the keks
>>2104565Czar and Kat would be the only viable option of those.
Anyway I DONT SEE ANY POSTS LIKE THAT, so lets just talk about TNO and 2WRW again
>>2104563What's there even to talk about? They're just removing content and replacing it with skeletons.
Agree though. Just ignore/hide/report the spam.
>>2104570Fair point, there is fuckall to talk about atm but atleast tomorrow we might be able to speculate and actually have discussions about content that WILL release
>>2104580To be fair some of the TNO content might release. DV coming out next year isn't unthinkable. But we already know that it'll be nothing but skeletons on release so even the people that want it are getting blueballed.
>>2104518amazing how the reddit despite being heavily moderated has better and more nuanced discussion than this place
>>2104552>>2104553Why would they name themselves if they were shitting up the thread, retard-kuns?
Imagine needing to brigade a lowpop board on 4chan because it's the only place people can speak freely about what you're doing to a formerly beloved mod, because both the discord and the subreddit are locked down tight
Low energy! SAD!
>>2104603>only place people can speak freelylol
lmao
>>2104600Not only that it's
>Their mod updates>The lead suddenly and coincidentally starts dropping n-bombs and announces his own cancelation on 4chan>For two weeks straightIt's just TNO devs looking for any excuse not to actually work on their mod. Just ignore it.
>>2104605It's quite obviously robbie.
He's literally the resident schizo.
I checked the quote retweets to the VD integration announcement and the only positive ones I could find are like picrel.
Not even calling the content good or saying it's a good change.
It's just "People I don't like should die"
>"Chuds and retards in the qts crying and shitting themselves because they're going to have to learn proper african history and cold war dynamics instead of making the same boring memes about Huttig"
>>2104606It's not Robbie's style and there are too many specific references to grudges. That's why I think it's a TNO dev and someone from Czar's clique with the way the latter attacked specific TFR mid-tier people.
You should treat either as Robbie anyway. It's garbage, just ignore it.
>>2104607>"Chuds and retards in the qts crying and shitting themselves because they're going to have to learn proper african history and cold war dynamics instead of making the same boring memes about Huttig"Based
>>2104607nayrt but there were some positive comments too with the vague "the setting is better/more realistic". But that's just an inverse of the most common criticism, that a lot of it's OTL slop with a few names swapped around.
>>2104604Good luck having a discussion on xitter or youtube comments
>>2104607>going to have to learn proper african history and cold war dynamicsThey're really not escaping the OTList allegations, are they?
>>2104608Yeah, he hasn't even mentioned ESLs, posted chinlets or MS Paint caricatures of ethnicities he doesn't like. If Robbie somehow changed enough to be able to post in an unrecognisable way, good on hi,
>>2104615Knowing Robbie the Retard he'd just double down on his old tricks again.
>>2104615>good on hi*good on him
>>2104614Are you complaining that you need to graduate in African history to enjoy this mod? Kateryna, send all the Tno jannies to flood this guy with spam!
>>2104248Wasn't goebbles the seconds popular nazi political outside of Goering OTL
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand DV. The narrative is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of post-colonial African history most of the flavor will go over a typical player's head. There's also the Congo's idealistic portrayal, which is deftly woven into its characterisation - its design philosophy draws heavily from OTL American Cold War plans, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these designs, to realize that they're not just cool- they say something deep about COLONIALISM. As a consequence people who dislike DV truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the irony in the update's titular catchphrase "Débrouillez-Vous!," which itself is a cryptic reference to a Congolese humorous French idiom that was popularized during the OTL Congo Crisis. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Calph's genius unfolds itself on their monitor screens. What fools... how I pity them. XD. And yes by the way, I DO work for TNO. And no, you cannot see leaks. It's for TFO fans eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
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The tno announcement on X got absolutely cooked. Of all quotes, 80% is shitting in their heads, and the ones who like it are like the one in the image. They only like it to displease the chuds
>>2104625How exactly would removing real wars with proxies that depend on your luck and have 3 different minigames each be "improving the mod"? Not to mention removing all nations with focus trees to add skeletons
>>2104629Because that doesn't matter when the existing content is awful. Better to have skeletons with good lore than badly designed playable paths.
>>2104632Why cant they focus on first giving all good nations focus tree with good content instead of adding unpopular reworks just to “improve” the lore(its just nothing ever happening). If they had spent the time they did in Anctartica working in actual countries, or didnt rework the mod every year, there would be content for all planned countries by this point lol
>>2104636They're doing both
Did you miss the Vote Pig and Germany teasers?
>>2104637Erm? This proves my point bro, they are just constantly reworking existing nations instead of adding content for Uk, France, all Balkans or other majors that you cant play rn
>>2104639And? It's new content. There's no difference.
They also added completely new content for Brazil.
>>2104640>Completely new content for brazilThat update was delayed for almost 2 years, was cut in half since it was supossed to have all 4 presidents and was extremelly buggy on release, and even then it was still the best update we had on 2 years.
Also theres difference of adding new countries and constantlyreworking the same shit. Its even a meme how italy is never getting good content because they constantly shut down reworks when they are about to release, because they decided to change all lore because it was too unrealistic. Cant you see than, on the way the mod is going, it will eventually die cus even the base fans cant stand this anymore
>>2104632>>2104640Your new content is a bunch of skeletons and your "good lore" largely just reads like otl slop. It's garbage and has none of the charm and personality of the old content and I have no interest in playing your minigames. That's not what I come to HOI4 for.
>>2104645Then play another mod rofl
>>2104647(The reason TNO will die is exactly because people are going to play another mods instead of a ‘never updating and just removing content’ mod
>>2104614>proper african history and cold war dynamicsGermany winning WW2 wouldn't change anything obviously. Africa has strong institutions.
>>2104649Subscribers are increasing, not decreasing.
Cope more lmao.
>>2104654people don't unsubscribe from mods
>>2104654Yes, because subscribers don't mean the mod is alive, bro. The Great War mod is the fourth most subscribed and is literally dead, simply because people tend not to unsubscribe from mods. Besides, like it or not, people who recently bought Hoi4 will play it too, since the mod is still interesting. The difference is that old players tend to get sick of the mod because it never releases content + they lose more devs than they gain, which means the trend is less and less content = fewer players = faster decline.
>>2104660Keep dreaming lil bro
>>21046610/10 ragebait kateryna, comes back next day
>>2104647People are playing other mods. That's the problem, you absolute fucking bastard. We wish we could play TNO again but you do everything in your power to make sure that it'll be as much of an empty husk as you are.
>>2104670Yeah lol, nudevs logic be like:
>”Go play another mod your bigot chud, this is a “narrative imersive mod”(nothing ever happens)”“Ok then, im gonna play TFR or 2WRW”
>”What? How is our player base decreasing and everyone disliked our reworks? Of course its the other mods fault. Jannies! We are going to coup them, prepare the bots”
>>2104674>What? How is our player base decreasing and everyone disliked our reworks?Said no one ever
Let's be real, this mod was doomed to turn that way before it even released when they dropped the sun gun, moscow lake, Mars landing, RK Mittelmeer and Bormann doing alchemy instead of being the boringman we know today, this is just the natural evolution of this mod. All the tno reduxes have failed and TNO Requiem will be one more added to the list, they should have integrated to TNO when given the opportunity but now it is only a matter of time before their dev team become utter shit and all the 2wrw content gets deleted/outdated
>>2104530that's literally a dev talking in the thread
>>2104674The frustrating part is that it doesn't even have to be full-on KX. Just give me a mix of the content. But no, it's 100% all-in on Mexico. And when you ask them to just give you the option to have something different they just tell you to go to the ponies or vault dwellers instead.
>>2104675He says while deleting posts saying these exact words.
>>2104677>they should have integrated to TNO when given the opportunityHow the fuck would that even work when the mods want diametrically opposite things for their core content?
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>>2104684Anon, your reading comprehension reps...
>>2104675The guys in the SAW thread here had literally leaked the responses to the user review docs about the ODF, C&B, and Mexico updates, and most of them were just shitting on them.
TNO is like a very innovative company that monopolized. Then they started doing rebrandings that everyone initially supported, but then they never released new products, and everyone started getting tired of it. Then, new, smaller companies launched content, and TNO lost a lot of customers. Instead of fixing their workflow to launch content, TNO decided to raid these smaller companies and censor any dissent. Now, TNO is like a big, but old and repetitive company, which will inevitably collapse due to its lack of innovation and failure to please its core audience.