Thread 2107719

Talk about new mods, mods you're hyped for, etc.

CTS: campaigntrailshowcase.com/campaign-trail/index.html

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>>2107719 (OP)
I'm excited for:
>Ross For Boss
>That John B Anderson Mod
pretty much any 3rd party candidate mods

>>2107719 (OP)
cool simulation but why is Mike Pence running with Trump in the 2020 scenario?

I just played the '2000 redux' mod, it's terrible.
It's worse than the regular base TCT scenario.
Bush is the only one playable, but even if you cheat and pick only the best answers, you still can't win. Bush won that fucking election.

>>2107894
>why is Mike Pence running with Trump in the 2020 scenario?
Because Mike Pence was Trump's VP nominee in the 2020 election

>>2107719 (OP)
what mod is this?

>>2108055
It's the new version of Peace with Honor, it comes out in August.

>>2108045
Oh yeah. Wow, for some reason I was thinking 2024.

How did you guy feel about the divide state of America and is there a way to unlock all the candidates?

>>2108356
it's shit

>>2108360
How?

>>2108356
To unlock the candidates you have to beat them first on Biden's side.

>>2108368
Tonally confused, directionless libtard wank

>>2108369
So there's no way to unlock all of them in one play through.
>>2108374
How would you fix it then?

>>2108368
Palestine is a huge issue in the mod
over:
>economy
>migration (2 questions only)
>wokeness (no mention of the they/them ad which was super effective in our timeline)
those were the top 3 issues according to post election polls yet palestine is for some reason like half the mod

>>2108170
Oh awesome, that'll be really cool.
PWH was such a groundbreaking mod, and still a good one, but it certainly could do with a punch up.
The CYoA mechanics were very simplistic, and not enough time was given to exploring the actual race with your opponent as opposed to the set up.
And the endings were very weak in the original mod, probably my least favorite element about PWH

The lack of a soundtrack is also a bit of a bummer, the songs always help make these mods come to life

>>2108426
Palestine is something young left wing people can't stop obsessing over.
It's a core of their entire ideology.
I mean I do find it horrible that innocent kids are being starved and murdered by kikes, and I wish we had no connection to Israel, but it's not *that* big a deal for America.

>>2108436
>And the endings were very weak in the original mod
I liked a few of them. The one where he wins Massachusetts and the other one where he wins all 50 states after confessing to everything. Also the one where he beats George Wallace and every President after him only serves one term before some misfortune befalls each of them

>>2108468
my favorite ending was the Nixon political comeback in California

Nixon did nothing wrong

>>2108468
My favorite ending was November.

Why do so many mods fail to grasp the lesson taught by TTNW - being able to do radically different paths and strategies with them all being viable is fun. Republican side is pure kino because it lets you play anywhere from old timey liberal republican to turboreactionary, and all of these strategies work so long as you use your brain and adapt to the situation. Meanwhile you get Class War, which by all accounts should be a Bernie powertrip mod, but its just a single path to victory with CYOA stats to shift your endslide text. TTNW GoP is timelessly effective - pick a strat in your minds eye and stick to it to be rewarded. It should be so easy to get right - be radical Bernie and get a Trump style campaign going where you become unsinkable. Be a full on sellout and shift the electoral map. Hammer out some bullshit feelgood, promise nothing real campaign. Etc etc.

>>2109749
the mods people remember are the ones with replay value

>>2109749
funnily there are plenty of classic style mods which don't even rely on convoluted CYOA mechanics that still allow different paths and strategies to winning elections through nothing other than solid question design.

>>2108426
>wokeness (no mention of the they/them ad which was super effective in our timeline)
The base 2024 mod brings it up. Do you have any evidence it was "super effective?"

>>2108440
It was a huge issue for the Democratic electorate specifically. They hemorrhaged votes from demographics they counted on in 2020 because they were completely out of step with their base on this.

>>2109943
>In the first episode of his podcast, This is Gavin Newsom, Democratic California governor Gavin Newsom agreed with his first guest, conservative activist Charlie Kirk, that "Kamala is for they/them" was the most politically harmful attack ad against Harris. "She didn't even react to it, which was even more devastating," Newsom said. He added that "it was a great ad."[24]
>Kamala is for they/them" was one of Trump's most effective 30-second attack ads, shifting the race 2.7 percentage points in favor of Trump after viewers watched it.
>However, the study also showed that public acceptance of trans people decreased by around 3-4 percentage points among those who watched the ad.

>>2109984
>However, the study also showed that public acceptance of trans people decreased by around 3-4 percentage points among those who watched the ad
fucking lol

I like how in the 1957Diefenbaker mod everyone hates Quebec so much that you can get a fairly sizable polling boost in basically the whole rest of Canada just by telling them to fuck off.

One hidden gem that I really enjoyed is the 2024 Lithuania Social Democrat side. Its a very interesting in that it very much is a powerfantasy campaign due to how much the Conservatives a>>2110306
re hated and how much good will you have when compared to them, so the challange becomes not winning, but winning decisesivelly by using answers that in any other mod would be the "Oof, well this sure fires up the base but the moderate voters want none of it..." ones.

>>2110329
Fuck, accidental reply...

>>2109749
The problem with TTNW's GOP side is that its way too easy. Just select the right options on the vietnam questions and you'll win no matter what candidate or supposed strategy you're running.

March on Washington creator is doing 1936 Spain next

>>2111400
oh cool-
>CEDA won't be playable upon release
nvm it's going to be shit

Are their candidates that you guys likes and wish have won the election?

>>2111491
Perot

>>2111520
I'm convince that if Carter won the 1980 election Perot would have run in 84?

>>2111491
Taft in 1912

>>2110565
Difficulty maxxing is unironically a cancer on modern CTS. Our Revolution was the ultimate example of it, hopefully now mods can become easier again. TTNW GOP felt just right.

>>2111491
Henry Clay

>>2111885
I simply play every mod on Cakewalk

>>2111885
Theres a middle ground between ridiculously hard and ridiculously easy. I’m not saying it should be insanely difficult to win as the GOP candidates, but some degree of difficulty would improve the experience immensely. Having two questions that hand you a landslide takes away all the strategizing that the GOP side is supposed to have. It doesn’t matter if you’re running Lindsay or Reagan, Yorty or Rockefeller. You don’t have to develop an interesting way to win with certain candidates by utilizing their own specific quirks, you just select the same answers on the Vietnam questions every time and you get the win automatically.

>>2111938
No shit losing Vietnam will make you win. Kennedy side is the same but in the other direction. Sure, its easier to do it as GOP, but its a compromise to have it included, and I'd say the mod is better off for you being able to replicate most things that happen on RFK side with Morton.

>>2112190
Again, there is a middle ground here. I’m not saying the fall of Saigon shouldn’t be possible, I’m just saying it shouldn’t be so easy.
There are a lot of ways that they could have made the GOP path less braindead. For instance, some more pivotal Vietnam questions could be added and set to show up only if Morton fails to stop RFK’s domestic ambitions, which would serve three purposes. First of all it would give some more narrative weight behind the Vietnam issue on the GOP’s side (the Republicans going all in on foreign policy since RFK beat them on the domestic front). It would also serve to spread out the Vietnam questions so you don’t just have two buttons to hit that win the game for you. And letting Bobby get some wins early on would give him a bit more of an edge in the election, so even if/when Saigon falls its not a free 49 state blowout.
They could also have there be a cost push RFK toward losing Vietnam. The most obvious thing would be to give Bobby control over the FBI if you doom him on Saigon, but other variables could be used too (outrage, caucus unity, southern support) to make Saigon falling more of a trade off.
And this last one would be a big undertaking, but they could add unique endings/questions for the candidates depending on how Vietnam is going. That would at least give the player some variety as a reason for to not just hit the insta win button every game.
Really there are a lot of options, I think a combination of these three suggestions would sew up TTNW’s Republican side, and they could even be partially integrated on RFK’s side, since pulling out of Vietnam is similarly way too easy for him

>wake up
>there's another mod set in the 1960s
>only playable party is democrats
>acts as if you know every democrat to ever live in that time span
it's endless

>>2112562
omg I love playing heckin wholesome democrats (who really should be more socialist) I hate fascists

PWH 2 tomorrow (I think)

>>2114038
whats PWH?

>>2114549
Peace with Honor. They're gonna release a new edition in a few hours.

Is it possible as Biden to run for re-election, pass Sinema-Lankford, and force Trump out of the race in the same run?
I've been able to do it against Grok, but Trump going to prison always brings my credibility just too low.

>>2115214
what mod are you referencing?

>>2111532
Perot didn't even want to run in the first place.

>>2110306
Duplessis is an interesting character. He 100% was a hardliner conservative with bouts of McCarthyist style redscare, but he wanted absolutely nothing to do with Adrien Arcand and his fascist party, despite Arcand reportedly trying to convince him of 'embracing his role as a Strongman'.

>>2115267
Reading up on this Arcand character he sounds pretty based.

>>2115262
2024

>>2115283
alas the Clergy overplayed their hand, became associated with everything that kept Quebecois in dire poverty, and now Quebec is even more secular than France is.

>>2115322
sadge...

So, what do (you) think of More Than Ever?

>>2115393
I don't know and I have no real interest in playing it to find out.

>>2115393
Insane how worse the endings are compared to the original

>>2115393
>>2115393
CYOA has improved a lot and I like how there's an actual campaign now instead of just two questions about your opponent, but it could really go without the entirety of Hunter S. Thompson's Nixon eulogy at the end of every playthrough.

>>2115393
>2115393
i like it alot, it seems abit to easy ngl, plus the long winded speech at the end can get tiring when you see it for the 5th time

>>2115840
*too

>>2115393
The endings suck so much. The original PWH had much better endings.

>>2115393
In my view the new CYOA and reactivity are undermined by how they downplayed and ignored the possible fantasy/alt-history elements present in PWH. Definitely a downgrade.

>>2115852
>>2108468
>winning every state used to result in nixon getting a moment of cathartic triumph
>winning every state now makes nixon kill himself, followed by a lecture about some faggot soldier also killing himself

>>2116083
In this mod you can, as Nixon, barely do any Watergate shit, pass universal healthcare, sweeping welfare bonuses and environmental protection legislation, end the Vietnam war, save the economy from collapse, pass the ERA, focus hard on civil rights -- all shit that these progressive types should love, and the ending will still be about how much you suck and are some horrific monster.

Are they trying to get the player to sympathize and understand Nixon's plight? It plays in to his own paranoia and cynicism, that no matter what he did people would hate him, so he may as well do whatever it takes to accomplish what he thinks will be best.

The mods about segregationists or Trump are not nearly as vitriolic.

>>2115903
It stinks that you can't confess to Watergate except in one path.
Like what's the point of a CYoA incumbency simulator for Nixon when you're locked in to doing Watergate and to not coming clean about it?

It's crazy to me that despite how good of a president, from a liberal or conservative standpoint, you can be as Nixon in More Than Ever, your reputation will still be ruined by Watergate, when in Things That Never Were, you can get the best ending while still murdering George Wallace.

>>2116117
Funnily enough they even took away the option to RP as a fully segregationist Nixon so you literally can't be as much of an evil reactionary as you can be in PWH. PWH took a more nuanced approach to the segregation question, but in the new mod the only options are to be full on integrationist or a half-hearted "erm I kinda support segregation but not really"

>>2115393
Worse than the original PWH in pretty much every way. worse endings, worse cyoa, and mandated libtard eulogy ending.

>>2115267
okay then who else

>>2115903
Pretty much, the original stood out since you felt in control, your actions mattered, if you did things differently you got different endings, they felt like pieces of other worlds. Hell, this is what makes CYOA mods so fun, the countless possibilities in terms of endings, so to essentially take that away ruins the fun and whole point of CYOA
>>2116083
Pretty much, it was supposed the triumph of Nixon, a victory over the Franklin's, the kooks, the naysayers. It also saddens me they removed my favorite ending (betray Liddy and CREEP and win all 50 states)
>>2116117
American Carnage, while unsympathetic, lets Trump "win," he can pass plenty of his agenda, and win in a landslide and get his daughter or himself to stick in the WH. Hell, W. handled the "no matter what what you lose" theme better, since no matter what route you go (Isolationist social conservative, warmongering NeoCon) Poppy never likes you. But it still feels like things change based on what you do

>>2116469
yo' momma

>>2115393
The new Ted Kennedy route where Nixon gets more and more insane is fun. Good soundtrack too.

>>2115393
Why no ford for running mate?

>>2116469
probably a firebrand like Buchanan.

>>2117748
who would been the running mate and how big of a win

>>2118077
you'd probably be looking to a moderate like Dole to balance the ticket, would be the boring answer. Depending on how Carter governs, you could also throw in a breakaway dem, possibly one unsatisfied by the Iranian situation, maybe even one from within the carter White House. Cheney was deeply involved with the GOP at that time, so he too could be an interesting option.

If you want to add a real Meme VP in the lot, go for Palin or Hoover: One's dead and the other's 20 at the time; both are uneligible, but that's never stopped CT before

>>2107719 (OP)
All that rapslop in DSA and not this murderkino?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2npZwzmT02Q

>>2108356
it's still not wild enough. there should be more Dem candidates, worse fail states for a trump assassination etc

actual black pill is realizing that Nixon 1972 had a more left wing platform than any candidate since, even including Obama or Biden

>Someone made Wallace on Wplace near the other TCT postings
Wonder how long it will last.

>>2118224
Why does the Reddit love Burgum

>>2118235
>Bans abortion
>Bans sex-changes for kids
>Bans critical race theory to be taught in schools
>Is still seen as a wholesome normal republican because everyone else in the Trump admin is a freak
Burgum Patriots keep winning.

>>2118208
FINAL TRUTHNUKE.....

I got perma banned from the subreddit for saying you should be able to win Vietnam in your scenario regardless of the cost otherwise your mod is shit lmao

If you guys could make a mod what would it be about and why?
>>2117748
Not Pat Robertson?
>>2118105
>Cheney
Is that the one who has a lesbian and shot someone?

What are the mods and scenarios that you know will never be released.

>>2118937
we're probably not getting a Eugene Debs jail campaign

>>2118937
Stassen 92

>>2118693
I'd like to make a mod about the 1906 California Governors election.
It was a 4 way race which I like
Problem is I only really have ideas for the Republican and the Independence League candidates
>Republican is about the betrayal of the popular governor in favor of the railroads puppet
>Independence league advisor is William Randolph hearst
But I don't know what to write about for the Democrat and Socialist

>>2118346
Kek

>>2118346
It should be tied to triggering the Sino-Vietnamese war early. Dropping a nuclear bomb on Hanoi would be politically impactful but not make them surrender anymore than saturation bombardment did.

>>2118937
The creepypasta Bernie vs Reagan mod that was teased months ago. Shit seemed cool, but I doubt it will ever come.

>>2118345
>>2118208
Redpill is that the world would be way better if Nixon won 1960

A figure from West Virginia who's willing to be on your ticket.

So I just won all states as Nixon and apparently he killed himself right after? What the fuck, why?

>>2120745
libcuck fantasy of a mod, the first one was so much better

>>2115267
>wanted absolutely nothing to do with Adrien Arcand
That's because Arcand was a trve imperial patriot, not Quebecois nationalist scum.

>>2120745
The mod says that it will make Nixon be remembered even more than Kennedy, since everyone will remember the President that killed himself after winning everything.

>>2120932
Things That Never Were...

white kids sure do love their hip-hop soundtracks

>>2121481
the only one that used hip-hop/rap in a good/funny way was 2012 shattered, and that's it

New Obamanation update dropped.

this thread was resurrected so I can finally continue Agnew posting

>>2123156
it's just integrating submod and changing margins to historic

>>2125185
Wasn't Agnew sort of screwed no matter what? Even if Agnew's own scandals never came out,and assuming Watergate still happened, I feel like it would be exceptionally difficult for him to win in 76 hypothetically. It is interesting though since I feel like he would have easily wiped the floor with anyone, if his or Nixon's scandals were never discovered.

>>2125188
Also added a new song to the gameplay soundtrack and a new song for beating Trump

>>2125468
idc about that, I only beat Trump once and since than if I played against him I did it to self-sabotage myself and gain early Trump W

>>2118235
they don't love him, they just don't hate him like they do with over Republicans. The advisor feedback for rep candidates is libshit, endings is libshit (ah yes, almost all reps are gonna lose in 2028 in half of endings)

>>2125332
Would he been a good president?

>>2125945
basado y redpilledo

If you guys could make a mod what would it be about?

>>2125954
no

>>2126308
I'd like to do this as a 5 way race (Nader doesn't actively campaign)
from this alt-hist: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-reform-party-20-years-of-history.501582/reader/
The Canon ending is the Dem-Ref coalition with Ron Paul as VP.

>>2125332
>I feel like he would have easily wiped the floor with anyone, if his or Nixon's scandals were never discovered.
Nixon fucking hated Agnew. If Watergate is never discovered then Nixon would’ve made sure that Connally was the nominee in ‘76, even if Agnew’s own corruption also went undiscovered

What are some of the cringiest endings in TCT mods? For me it's The Radiant tomorrow ending.

>>2128788
the Nixon suicide ending has to be up there.

>>2128788
>Robert Kennedy’s “happy ending” where he dies in a fucking plane crash and they manage to slip in a palestinian kid shit talking him for bonus cringe points
>>2128941
You know what really bugs me about this? It’s not just that Nixon’s original 50 state sweep ending was superior, it’s that Nixon’s original suicide ending against Shirley Chisholm was superior
>It was the one time President’s daughter Julie who got the last word though. In an emotional speech, where she often seemed on the verge of tears, the 75 year old told the crowd, “I wish I’d known what my father was going through. I wish I could go back and tell him that it would be alright, that no matter what he or his staff did, we could get through this together. Daddy, wherever you are, I love you.” She continued. “I hope you know I’ll never stop loving you.”
We went from that to “How dare Nixon overshadow the faggot soldier’s suicide with his own suicide”

>>2128968
Nearly every Republican TTNW ending is cringe, with each and every single candidate being treated as Satan himself who will destroy the American dream in some way.

>>2128984
I’d say nearly every TTNW ending is cringe. I don’t give a fuck about seeing Bobby get a finger wagging from some rando theater actors. The mod is guilty of the very thing it claims to oppose. They say to stop taking a fandom approach, to stop misremembering who these people are. Yet they clearly didn’t do their homework on Bobby’s views on welfare, because staying true to his principles on the matter results in him being told that he’s done exactly the opposite

>>2129022
The only good ending is getting almost assassinated against Hughes. It's the only one that, in my opinion, is narratively satisfying.

>>2128788
'cringe' may be the wrong word but a lot of TTNW's endings fall into the trap of not actually talking about the impact of the presidency
the only one i remember that had any actual shit like that was wallace's and yorty's (though yorty's only mentions the fact the republican-AIP ticket becomes the establishment) and the one where the republicans use a luftwaffe-esque logo if you win massively as bobby but that's two ending slides slotted into shit like the lindsay one about some random interpretation of the election as troonslop written 50 years later

>>2129030
If Barry Goldwater gets arrested, you get an ending about how Democrats retain a stranglehold on the white catholic vote. You can only get that ending on the Republican side though, not Bobby’s side

>>2129040
yeah that stuff's pretty small but it's neat
on a tangential note, i remember how if barry gets called out for his daughter having an abortion while you're playing as him, you can actually get a bit of text talking about he becomes the candidate of the hippy libertarian types which is neat worldbuilding

>>2118263
>This is now the second top post of the week on the Reddit
>Now they are acting like Doug Burgum is actually a super evil RepubliKKKan because he doesn't give HRT to kids
lol

Reminder that you can't win the Bloomberg scenario.

Well well well, speak of the devil, anyone played catfishing today?
catfishing.net

>>2129048
I actually managed to win as Goldwater despite this happening, although obviously I wasn't arrested.
Pretty sure a couple of Northern states went for me.
Hard to imagine that not having a cataclysmic effect on the future of American gender politics?

>>2107719 (OP)
>words words words
damn I fucking love VIDEO GAMES

>>2129813
I immediately noticed the backpedaling and it was extremely funny

Did Sweet Home's difficulty get tweaked? I used to be able to reliably win the SRP route on normal difficulty but I just tried again and somehow lost to deGraffenried by ~5 percentage points.

>>2128788
I always found it odd how Robert Rubin’s W. ending deepthroats the fuck out of him when he’s exactly the kind of guy that they despise

>>2130669
The entire jobs route seems to completely suck off your opponent that it's unreal. Everything you do, the advisor feedback twists into something everyone hates.

>>2130780
Isn’t that partly because you have to get zero wins in order to get Jobs? Bush is supposed to be a total fuckup in that route. In that context Steve Jobs is supposed to be his opposite, ultra assertive guy that always gets shit done

DSA GOT UPDATED, now it's less democrat-biased in margins

>>2130780
In the ending it hints that Jobs is anti-vax and like an RFK stand-in.
Plus you can beat him by tying him to Chinese off-shoring.
Still the Jobs route is hilarious. I love when you try criticise him and he responds with "listen, folks, he's just fucking stupid!"

>>2131047
What did they even updated?

>>2131047
>trump's draggable campaign HQ is grok
kek, i have to admit it genuinely tickled me

>>2126308
Something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=396f4S0cP5M

>Trump re-election althist
>Youngkin as Republican nominee

also 1824 is out

>>2133727
1824 is quite good, the contingent election is fun. Didn't figure out how to win without compromising yet though. Hopefully the other sides come out soon enough.

For me, it's the ending where you drop out and endorse Andrew Jackson, making him president 4 years early

>>2134744
my favorite is this one

>>2108426
>Palestine is a huge issue in the mod
>over wokeness
Isn't Palestine a subset of wokeness?

>>2135601
Eh, not quite the same level as trans was for the election.

TCT fucking ruined HOI4 and I hope all TCT modders commit suicide.
Game looks alright though it just seems to attract the worst fucking subhuman filth on the face of the fucking earth.

>>2135912
Don't worry, TCT modders ruined TCT too.

>>2136163
Make your own blockbuster, scene-changing mod then. Nothing's stopping you.

>>2136304
>Make mod
>Release it
>Mango or some other tard works day and night to shut it down
What's the point?

>>2136326
Resist the urge to add racist slurs and nazi dogwhistles and you'll be fine.

>>2136356
You disingenuous faggots call anything a 'nazi dogwhistle' to get mode removed from the launcher sites, don't play coy.

>>2136555
This.
They literally nuked a mod that was actively making fun of white nationalist and the great replacement just because a minor coding error caused a response to increase public support

>>2136555
You’re just making excuses for yourself.

>>2136575
I've never made a TCT mod myself I just hate to see it happen. Destroying and censoring other people's art so someone gets to play hall monitor and exert a little bit of petty authority. I'm sure it's a rush for those guys. It's funny that they've ended up enforcing their own morality censorship code. Reminiscent of the TNO guy operating his mod project under Führerprinzip with routine purges for questioning any trivial detail, in the name of constructing an anti-fascist deradicalization tool.

>>2136326
>>2136594
Wait really? I've been tinkering with one for a while but they don't like me and I definitely workshopped the scenario them. So am I just SoL?

>>2136616
You can always just put up the code on github but if your scenario triggers any of the autist commission's bugbears they'll get it removed from the hosting websites. I think OpenTCT is intended to be, as it says, more open but I don't know anything about it. Don't get discouraged by janny drama.

>>2136616
If it’s normal and not comically racist you’ll be fine.

>>2136812
But I AM comically racist.

>>2136812
You sound transgender

>>2116478
This QPQ comment on the subreddit reminded me of this point. The problem is that his stated "goal" and what the reality of the mod is, in the mod, as I said before, you don't feel in control, unlike in American Carnage which takes this same philosophy and actually executes it well lol
>>2136563
I personally found Swangsong 2032 to be a good exploration of what the "New Right" believes, same with Children of Dusk (which was also removed) which explored what a defeated but Re-christianized America would look like. But of course, they're not libslop so they get removed from the loader thanks to Mango and his crew of jannies

>>2137379
I think he was talking about Upon a Cross of Globalism

>>2136304
This doesn't address anon's point.
He was talking about the community, not the quality of the mods themselves.

>>2137427
That one got removed? TIL

Playing All The Way and didnt realize how amazing the Humphrey path is

>>2111491
Taft in 1912. Teddy was a great candidate, he was the second greatest President ever, but I'm a big supporter of term limits and Taft was a good President in his own right.
Nixon in 1960.
Buchanan in any of the elections he ran in.

>>2116117
I don't know anything about the people who made PWH, but considering they're all redditors, I'm going to guess it's a reaction to Nixon slowly being regarded more positively by people online, the Nixon Foundation working overtime to make him appear cool and unfairly maligned, etc. Some people online have an absolutely vitriolic hatred for Nixon, and the little bit of praise he's getting now has driven them completely insane.

>>2125185
Portraying yourself as the guy on the right side of the bell curve most likely means you're the guy in the middle

>>2139002
Yo, check out this MEME NERD!

Where is the best place the follow development on mods and the like. The reddit is pretty shit and the only TCT Discord server I could find was pure cancer

What's the best non-American mod?

>>2139543
Germany 2021.

>>2134744
Was Jackson even a good president?
>>2138994
Was Buchanan basically trump?

>>2139615
>Was Buchanan basically trump?
Yes, only he wasn't a narcissistic pedophile who did the bidding of Israel.

>>2139615
>Was Buchanan basically trump?
Kinda. Buchanan has a lot of very similar ideas to Trump, but he's more solidly right-wing and also very, very anti-Israel.

>>2139793
Buchanan is literally my favorite politician ever. Most based man in contemporary U.S. history

>>2139615
Jackson was extremely based and one of the greatest presidents. He’s the only one who ever paid off the national debt to 0. Banks hated him. The “federal” “reserve” put his face on the 20 to mock him as a triumph.

I've started working on a mod

>>2139898
What's it about tho?

>>2139918
It's a socialist critique on modern day neo-liberalism and far-right neo nazi conservatism that also has commentary on the political realities of left wing populism and a focus on realism - so basically critiquing putting politicians, like RFK or Bernie sanders, on a pedestals.
So, heh, it's kinda like ... Self aware.

I'm only going to make the democrats playable of course (who would want to play as a Nazi), the candidate will be Iowa representative Dongle Rumpfhardy (who anyone familiar with the 1967 Iowan representatives scene will be VERY aware of) who, in OTL, caucused with the short lived Pufferfishprolapse Caucus of progressives in the Democratic party. he battles evil incarnate borderline satanic conservative devil Bob Dole in a battle for Americas future...
I call it... "Rumpfhardy1996: Where doves lay their eggs..."

>>2140414
Sounds epic and provocative. Do you have a release date?

>>2140414
Naturally I assume Perot won't be making an appearance?

>>2138936
yeah, its one of the few paths in that mod where you have real agency and theres no last minute "uh oh actually some guy has dirt on you" or other bullshit, you can instead just do things and have Humphrey actually have a redemption from Johnson

After seeing Mango's new 2024 teasers I'm starting to think they're starting to go a little too far with the gui.

>>2111491
Johnson in 1868. The last true patriot.

Are we ever going to get the Labour path for the new 2017 UK?

>Astro deleted the post about Charlie Kirk
lol?

>>2142057
I'm gonna guess it was something like
>WOOoOo TrAnSPhobE DoWn
But it's funny how many leftists are celebrating considering this is the biggest piece of political captial the Trump Administration has been given.
Regardless I'm glad Astro deleted the post, he can act like a fag sometimes but I am glad he is here.

>>2142057
>>2142120
Honestly I agree with Astro's latest post about it. There are billions of better places to discuss incendiary current topics than a forum for a browser game.

>>2142120
leftists aren't the brightest. I have seen many of them quoting Kirk completely out of context or completely misunderstanding what he was saying or not understanding what irony is. You know, on top of thinking political assassination is good when their team is "winning". So many adult children.

>>2142152
Piker is shook

>>2142157
>Talks about revolution
>Only realize revolutions are incredibly violent after violence happens
Many such cases!

Anyways ignoring the elephant in the room for a minute, I think All The Way has the best soundtrack out of all the mods and especially on the alternate candidates, switching to George McGovern while Dazed And Confused starts playing, or Hubert Humphrey and Are You Experienced are such kino moments.
What do you Anons think?

>>2142164
Personally I thought Bobby’s “Keep Me Hanging On” was the best “post-convention track”. I’d say that Lyndon’s unfortunate lack of a post-convention track is more than made up for by the fact that he has the best ending tracks. “The Weight”, “Classical Gas” and “Son of a Preacher Man” are all bangers, although “Can’t Take My Eyes Off You” doesn’t really seem to fit the way that the other three do

>>2142164
For me it's 1971 Korea. The opening song "Beautiful Rivers and Mountains" is fucking legendary and Park's playlist of patriotic songs are the hypeist shit.

New mod just came out.

>>2142189
I saw that caricature before anything else and got excited for a split second thinking that someone had actually made pic related

>>2142120
Trumps been given the biggest golden goose, a martyr that people already knew and was known for just being a cringe debater was killed on live tv, its like a mini JFK/MLK
I fucking hope the nation is traumatized so maybe people will be less likely to call for political violence

>>2142157
Kirk vs Piker 2025 when? I even have a title -Things That Never Were

>>2142271
Are both of them evil?

my first impression was that this was a Hunter Biden scenario

>someone made a “1980: Ford beats Carter” mod
>didn’t let reddit dipshits choose the primary winners like that other guy did
Nice!

>>2144419
what primary winners did reddit choose?

>>2144604
For the Democrat side, they had their choice of:
>Gary Hart
>Reubin Askew
>Jerry Brown
>Hugh Carey
>Mo Udall
>Lloyd Bentsen
>Adlai Stevenson III
>Sargent Shriver
And they chose fucking Shriver
https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1b9ygnb/1980jerry_fame_money_and_bitches_democratic/

The Republican was Charles Mathias.

>new regional election mods
>you can only play as the wholesome progressives
come on man..

I never play any mods with just 1 page of ending slides.

I hate libwank mods so much it's unreal.

>>2145035
I really hate more than evers preaching. It would be an interesting concept if every ending wasn't just some lame bullshit. I mean why does near every single one have that IRL obituary. Even when you do liberal stuff as nixon, such as passing universal healthcare or avoiding expanding the war or being more vocal with your support of racial integration, the game still acts like Nixon was the devil in disguise and gives him a tattered reputation.
>That's the point of the mod dude!
Oh boo fucking who, nobody needs to be told in the year of our lord 2025 that Nixon was a crook and a bit racist behind closed doors. Let me somehow save his legacy, that's a more fun challenge than just being vilified because of Watergate and the war 100% of the time. You can do that and STILL have your "but he was still a bad guy" messaging.
I mean jesus Christ even when you beat George Wallace of all people the game still paints you as a villain.

A TCT trope I actually like and find kind of funny is when your advisor feedback calls you out on leaning on knowledge of the future your character shouldn't have, a la "do you know something they don't?"

>>2145255
which mods have stuff like these?

>>2145265
2021Germany for one, as Robert Habeck you can do an inexplicable 180-degree reversal of your party's pacifist platform to call for arming Ukraine, or in another answer demand strict regulations on AI. Both options just confuse everyone and hurt your polls badly because in 2021 no one really cares about these topics and discussing them just makes you look like a crazy person.

>>2145255
>>2145265
>"do you know something they don't?"
It doesn’t use this line, but I’m reminded in general of W. allowing you to suggest that John Edwards is a philanderer

>>2144873
Why Shriver of all people? That's as silly as when Sid McMath was chosen for 1952 Red

What's your favorite 1800s mod?

>>2146852
Sumner '68

>>2146856
Is it on CTS?
I only found campaign trail last month because I was trying to find Robert Byrd related shit and now I've been playing a bunch of the showcase mods.

>>2146860
Nope, it used to be on the original NCT website only to be removed for being too kino. The only way to play it nowadays is by loading it from a google doc

>>2146861
That's stupid. Whatever I'm playing now is some shit where Sumner is in 1968.

Is it possible to win midterms without arming Ukraine in Our Revolution? I want to get the Chinese invasion of Taiwan but still have a fairly successful Bernie presidency.

>>2146852
I like the ones that feature Roscoe Conkling
Honestly a Chester A. Arthur simulator would be awesome, you would get to break free from Conkling and your reputation as a corrupt henchmen who killed Garfield and get the reforms passed.
With the option to also go full Stalwart and be corrupt fighter for civil rights.

I HEREBY RESIGN THE VICE PRESIDENCY!!!

I've been looking through the code for All The Way and it doesn't seem that hard to make a good mod. Sure plenty of time and mainly getting the weights on the issues right but 95% of the code is copy paste and keeping indexes to reference.

>>2148769
I think I would struggle a lot with the creative writing and imagery

>>2148769
I want to make a mod but the setting I have in mind is a country with no (competitive) elections so I don't think using an election simulator as engine would be a good idea.
I'm considering using Twine but I like TCT's UI better.

In the MTE Nixon sim mod, if you won't try to agitate amongst blacks, you won't win Washington DC and Nixon wouldn't kill himself
Morale of mod: Having blacks in your coalition is bad lmao

>>2149767
Long live Nixon in his endless struggle against the racist DemoKKKrat party.

The new 1868 mod is a mid 5/10 mod but the comedy of being able to self-sabotage by playing Stanton as a confederate sympathizer gigachud who opposes his own reconstruction policies and agrees with Johnson on basically every issue is good for a laugh or two

>>2151110
silly fun but too easy

What is this game even about?

>>2151741
It's an election simulator built out of a questionnaire.
You select a scenario about a particular election, historical or fictional, and then are prompted with various questions (stances on issues, choices to make as president) and those effect how well you do at the ballot box at the end of the questions.

Some more recent ones have become more sophisticated with CYOA elements or statistics you can gain/lose which can impact the course of the 'campaign.'

It's only interesting if you're a big fan of political history

>>2107719 (OP)
It looks like Ross for Boss was cancelled and replaced by a 1992 election Ross Perot one.
Why can't Reform get anything but one small mod?

>>2152369
It's not a wholesome lib candidate or a commentary on evil establishment conservative values so of course the mod was dead in the water

Pitch some mod ideas.
1896 with no panic of 1893
2004 with no 9/11
1964 with bay of pigs turning into a major war and kennedy is alive

>>2153099
>2004 with no 9/11
Isn't this one of the most popular mods of all time

>>2153108
Does 9/11 not happen in W.?

>>2153111
it doesnt

>>2153108
Yeah but the no 9/11 part is only there so they can make Bush lose to Steve Jobs of all people.

>>2153111
yeah, it's why the midterms are a blue wave and US politics are so much more inwardly focused than during the irl 2000s

>>2153111
It's quite literally the central theme of the mod dude

I drew a Nixon chud.

>>2153397
>>2153969
I was misremembering. I knew there was some war but it was Iraq which makes no sense.

>>2154057
based

Obamanation redux dropped, made by the same people who thought the original's writing was good.

>>2155792
>new opponents are
>mccain
>jeb
>clint eastwood(?)
>and carson as more than paul's VP
neato?

>>2155886
before any anon says i confused herman cain for ben carson i realise that now

>>2155886
>they canceled the Kenya vs Austria Obama vs Schwarzenegger route
lame

What mods are you guys looking forward if not dreading about?

Any guides for "I Will Follow Him" on OpenTCT
Only managed to get 2 endings

>>2111491
Goldwater

Mango is retiring from TCT modding.

>>2156339
I want to believe, but proofs?

>>2156347
https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/s/HeYD5i5ZCT

>>2156365
>I think spite is corrosive to development

>>2156365
(breathes in)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2156365
We lost a real one

>>2156365
2025 TCT KWABOTY?

>>2156365
Really thought they would've reworked "It is not 𝖊nough for cons𝖊rv𝖆tiv𝖊s to win 𝖊l𝖊ctions." by now.
It's my first impression of the mod and it reads like a placeholder line.

>>2156365
Great but it's a shame most big mods will still be aping Mango's NuTNO style of writting long after he's gone. From a coding perspective Project 2024 looks amazing, but I know the Tumblr-esque writting will be overwelming. I thought Divided States could be a little annoying at times but this will just be the biggest Left-wank ever.

>>2156365
Predictions for Project 2024 ending slides and achievements?

Do you guys prefer explicit (e.g.: your president achieved X, Y and Z during his term, this is how he changed America) or ambiguous (think TTNW, where not much is described and you have to infer) endings?

>>2156893
Explicit. It's what I liked about Our Revolution. Oh yeah you might have won, but you lost the senate/house and didn't pass any laws etc.
All the way is also really good for showing the next few presidents that come after you.

>>2156365
S

>>2153053
makes sense, Astro hates Perot for some reason

>>2157121
the tranny fucker fears the texan

>>2156723
Because it's a quote from the real Project 2025 memo.

>>2153053
>>2157121
Ironically a 3rd party candidate winning regardless of their politics would do wonders for these progressive left wing types, they don't seem to be interested in exploring the implications of 3rd parties being seen as viable in the USA.
You could easily do some ending slides showing the next 3rd party that could win in the future, like if you swing really far interventionist the lolberts win or if you swing too conservative a wholesome chungus Bern-AOC progressive party.
They don't even necessarily have to win outright but you could have the reform win shatter the political establishment and force the GOP and Dems to bend to 3rd parties to ensure electoral votes. It's all extremely unlikely and unrealistic but hey so is a Perot win, may as well have fun with it and do some midwit endslide commentary like these Devs love to do

>>2157344
This actually happens if you do well enough as Turner with his Reform run in Mouths of the South. Speaking of that, the guy came back, dropped his shitty obamanation redux and KWABbed out again, and we still didn't get Gingrich's side for MotS. I swear, all popular modmakers seem to gravitate to shittiest, most dimeless setups.

>>2157121
Yeah but is it their fault when retarded developers stop working on something? Shit gets cancelled all the time in TCT because people announce stuff before they do any amount of work on it. If you honestly expected Ross for Boss to release you’re just gullible.

>>2157674
I was cautious, it looked too for anyone besides one of the major teams.
I'm not surprised it was canned, pretty much all the Reform/Perot mods have been, I'm just disappointed.

Heyo, just wanted to say that Children of Dusk 2080 is in the works. I have some help from the guy who made Swan Song as well. Hope you guys enjoy when it's done. TL;DR it's set after the 4th World War and you play as either the Moralists (Christian globalists who took after Cortez) or Jacksonists (Secular MAGA who follow an Ataturk-like figure, Ryan Jackson) and how America rebuilds post WW4. LMK if you have any questions.

>>2158782
Is it going to be some kind of AU/all just a dream fuckery like 2044 turned out to be, or is the initial situation at least going to be based on the canon timeline?

>>2158782
>>2158873
Yeah I confirmed it. Why are you pretending you're two different people, Willard?

The initial situation is meant to be based off the canon timeline.

>>2157344
Its a real shame cause a stronger Reform Party mod would be cool
cause you'd have a party with every kind of political belief in it under the same roof

>>2159217
Zhang?

Which candidate that you're glad that lost or hated that won? I'll start Gary Hart, Al Gore, Pat Robertson, John Kerry, and Barrack Obama.

>>2159786
Trump

>>2159929
Why though?

>>2158782
Do you prefer boxers of briefs?

>>2159786
Richard Nixon against JFK

>>2156365
This writing style has become so exhaustingly predictable.

>>2159970
He's racist and an asshole, and he's tried to take away people's healthcare.

>>2159786
Clay, Humphrey, Ford, Carter, Dukakis, Bush, Gore, Harris. Also wish Bryan ran in 1912 instead of Wilson.

I've always liked this ending

Never gave a shit about this UK age restriction thing online until recently, because Imgur is seemingly blocking the images for some mods being embedded into the website

>>2163012
Literally 1984.

>>2163012
Why are they doing this?

>>2166334
Keir is trying to get the Teal Tsunami achievement

>>2166334
Conservatives and Labour are functionally identical so labour has no qualms with implementing a policy idea the conservatives came up with for whatever reason.
It is kind of hilarious what this government has done, labour is supposed to be the working class pinko socialist party and as soon as they got in the upped defence spending, gave all the military a pay rise and then gutted welfare. Too funny.

>>2167093
It would be absolutely astounding if the current polling stays true, and the Conservatives and Labour both end up getting superseded by Reform and the LibDems respectively, and completely remade the party system of the country.

>>2167944
>Mango
Don't worry, the establishment parties will find a war to ban them, people won't do anything and the duocracy politicians will scream with joy as they win a 51-49% victory with a 10% turnout. That seems to be the way things are going in Europe these days.

I like the new Korea mod.

>>2168411
I want to like it but it's too stylistically different from the '63 and '71 mods for me to like it. It saddens me too that the author chose to jump on the overly aggressive satire bandwagon that's already becoming an overdone trope in U.S. mods.

>>2168411
It seems too difficult to win against certain candidates. Feels very restrictive in a way. Not sure if others who tried it agree. And I have no idea how you get Ahn to unify with your candidacy.

>>2169107
I like it still just because it’s a fresh new political system to look at and be cynical about.

>>2168411
how it feels beating Lee Nak-yon

>>2168411
Is that the guy that tried to use martial law and got overthrown because of it?

>yummy wholesome leftist community chases away all the prolific modmakers because they expressed basic conservative viewpoints they would hear often in real life
>suddenly only like 1 mod gets made per month
Historically dogshit community for this game

Two tips for the new Korea mod:
1. Summoning rep. Min for a press conference on Q2 and summoning professor Mebane on Q3 raises your profile internationally, allowing you to successfully meet Trump on Q9

2. Attacking Russia in the first foreign policy question hurts you, but in the second foreign policy question you can point out your consistent anti-Russian stance for a very large bonus

>>2169723
The whining about this is just as insufferable as the purity testing the main community does. Those same conservative modmakers ended up making their own community and it turned out to also be completely mentally ill.

>>2169846
desu I saw them imploding a mile away when I checked Galen's history before his account was deleted and saw that he was a regular unironic poster on /r/otherkin. The absolute state of reddit "conservatives".

>>2169846
They're retards too, I more mean modders like Tom and Garfield that seemed like normal people

>>2170049
Fair point on Tom, but Garfield is still active in the community, he posts on the subreddit from time to time.

>>2108426
Harris admitted Palestine was a huge dent in the Democrat polls in her own autobiography, so that is accurate

>>2169591
No but that guy is one of your opponents in the mod.

>>2170140
ah well if we can't trust Kamala Harris on how elections are won and lost, who can we trust?

>>2167944
This won't happen, and it would be nonsensical to think it would.
What is more likely to happen is the conservatives swinging further right than they already have been and the right wing vote being split and Labour becoming the new "centrist" party for however long.
The wildest thing you could imagine - and I mean the wildest - is a coalition government forming like David Cameron and Nick Clegg did with the Cons-LibDems.
Cons-Reform or Labour-LibDem. Anything else is a pipedream.
A more realistic "out there" outcome is one of the establishment parties not winning enough seats to be the opposition government, as nearly happened with the conservatives.

>>2169855
>Galen
Crazy how this dude permanently kneecapped any potential alternative to the main community with his lolcow antics. I think his finest moment was when he attempted to delete opentct after months of wrecking it with his constant sperging out, then ran back to the main community under a different account, THEN got found out nearly instantly by the trannies that were working with him on a new mod, and then finally ran back to the /vst/ thread where he tried to get sympathy for his latest project falling apart as if he didn't already burn all of his bridges with everyone outside the main community. Truly a fitting end to Galen's modding career and the surreal opentct saga as a whole.

>>2170506
It wasn’t even a different account. It was the exact same account, and he just thought nobody would notice.

>>2170049
>>2170097
>Tom
I struggle to have any sympathy at all for him when he was the one who made it a personal crusade to exile the IW guy, using the complaints about the Dixiecrats to mask his own ego-driven motive. He started the decline. He took pride in driving that guy out the same way those who drove out Tom took pride in it. He had the same negative qualities as the current faggots running this community into the ground, just with a conservative coat of paint.

>>2153108
9/11 not happening in W. is so insignificant that I didn't even initially realize that was part of the scenario when I played the mod. I feel like someone could make a mod that takes advantage of the scenario much better.

>>2173145
How is it insignificant? The mod's entire gameplay seems based around the fact that Bush is seen as a failure, because he doesn't have 9/11 to keep sympathy up.

>>2173268
The mod would have painted Bush as a failure whether 9/11 happened in it or not, because it was made by a team of people who consider him to have been a failure IRL.

>>2173145
Yeah that's why I originally said 2004 with no 9/11. The mod leaves out the most defining thing of a presidency in such a thorough way that it hurts the mod. Also makes the push to invade Iraq really bad writing. Would have never happened without using the 9/11 sentiment.

Why is Vice only on OpenTCT? Apparently there was some drama with the creator, but I can't find anything since anything OTCT related seems to be verboten in the reddit. Does anyone know the details?

>>2173693
Vice was made by the guy who made OpenTCT. He got blacklisted by the clique who run the main websites for not towing the political line.

>>2174025
Frustratingly, I made the awful mistake of thinking they might let me back in if I was apologetic and nice enough.

I feel really bad for letting down all the good people in OpenTCT, and I really wish I could apologize to them better.

Alas, I'm retired and I don't really wanna work on TCT ever again. I just figured I'd comment that I want to apologize for the people who believed in the project and that I let down.

>>2174043
:(
The hero we don't deserve

AC unambiguously depicts sending in the military to put down rioting as the best option and a weak response is part of the covid death route

What's the latest TCT drama

>>2170514
kwab

>>2174043
You're still doing this?

Hey everyone! Children of Dusk guy is back, and the mod is kind of in beta. Most of the questions are in, as are the answers. The game ends at Question 26, but that's near the end of the campaign anyway. Here's a kind of beta, let me know what you think. Code 1: controlc.com/e8d50d3a Code 2: controlc.com/ce9eeebf

>>2176430
Good stuff willard

>>2176430
RIP Admiral Butterfield

Are you guys liking the new Icarus mod?

>>2177833
Its incumbencyslop

>>2177833
The greek myth stuff is retarded and gay. It makes TTNW's theater kid tendencies look better, since at least in TTNW the gay musical shit was contained in the opening and endings. In this mod every fucking question has some gay line about "Olympus", or "Tartarus", or whatever the fuck. It's not like the greek references are even well thought out or particularly thought provoking, they're all just famous names from very basic and well known greek myths clumsily paired with american government things. Honestly the references are so surface level and vapid that I wouldn't be surprised if the writer's only exposure to greek mythology was the percy jackson books

Is it just me or does that weird gay nazi mod that came out on opentct seem ai-generated?
It's not the idea it's the responses they just don't seem right

>>2118937
Probably one where After King Washington pass away there three candidates Alexander Hamilton, Bushrod Washington, William Washington.

>>2177833
It's pretty alright, couldn't give less a shit about the greek myth stuff but it's not like I'd sperg out about it on a message board.

>>2177833
It's the textbook definition of "trying too hard".

>>2177833
Incumbencyslop really is the best way to describe it. You improve congressional relations, pass bills, do things with wars the US is engaged with, get different opponents depending on how you answered the first 15 or so questions, etc. There is nothing particularly novel about Icarus’ execution of the these very well tread mechanics. Also the writing sucks, its incredibly melodramatic (another trope of post W mods) and also has that stupid Greek thing (which seems like attempt to ape TTNW’s musical theme). All in all, its a bland mod that probably took way too much effort to make.

>>2177833
It’s wild how much better the mod would be if it just used normal words. Right now, it’s annoying enough to play that I don’t want to replay it.

>>2177833
So why put all this effort into a Wesley Clark?
Surely there are more interesting incumbency campaign concepts?

>>2178436
>So why put all this effort into a Wesley Clark?
Apparently this was all because someone won a contest

Anyone know how to get this cheevo?

>>2178522
It's a fun play, but I don't think it gets across the point it's trying to.
I left with the impression of Clark as a leftist stalwart, either fighting constant obstruction from Congress or significantly transforming the country depending on how the midterms go.

>>2174426

What this pedophile doesn’t tell you is that he groomed a minor and made OpenTCT his own cult so everyone else could suck his dick

>>2178522
>any Democrat aside from Dennis Kucinich would have handed the various crises of 2004-2008 better

>>2178522
As a card carrying democrat I hate these fags that think its bad to be in it to win. The entire damn point of an election is to win.
"There is no second place in politics" -Nixon
The Democrats were like that in 2004 because thats the only way they could have won against a wartime president, and Kerry came as damn close as you could possibly get. Not gonna play this mod seems like the maker is retarded. SAD!

>>2178522
>>2179430
"who didn't even vote for McGovern" Who does this guy think he is? McGovern was the beginning of the end for the democrats. Clark was a god damn war hero in Vietnam what does the retard expect??? Fucking moron doesn't understand people. And politics is just mass actions of disparate groups of people. You don't understand the individual person you dont understand politics. Retard.

>>2178522
>>2179430
>>2179433
AND I SAY THIS AS SOMEONE WHOS FATHER DOOR KNOCKED FOR MCGOVERN. Epitome of the modern democrat disease where we need to be "on the right side of history" while fucking orange Hitler destroys this country. At least the republicans dont have any qualms with their mango Mussolini hijacking their party. I bet if Newsom wins the party this fag would cry and bitch and moan and jump off a bridge his favorite homo-fag-a-licious candidate didn't win (and i say this as a Buttigieg supporter) I HATE MODDERS!!!!!

>>2179430
>>2179433
>>2179435
If this is actually Kevv I just want to let you know that I hate you.

>>2179430
>>2179433
>>2179435

>>2178522
>2008 Icarus is much less a mod about General Wesley Clark than it is about this era of the Democratic party
I think that this line explains why many of modern TCT mods are melodramatic slop, no longer are they about actual alt-history elections but trying to make story about them.

What's the point of Viva Kennedy? There is none! It's just about what would have happened if JFK didn't get blown away!
Midnight 64? What if the Warren Report closed the enormous closed the gap between Goldwater and Johnson, not some sermon on the effects of conspiracies in politics.
If the George Wallace 1972 mod was made today it would be filled with whinny words about how Wallace was so evil and mean, that he didn't really stop being racist, instead of just being a "What If" scenario.

These mods don't want to focus on alt-history, they want to have some deep and profound take on the American political landscape but they are all the exact same, Republicans are le evil and even the most moderate ones are the same as pat buchanan in someway The Democrats are useless and any attempt at bipartisan reform is actually just handing power to the GOP, only do the wholesome 100 McGovernite progressives try to ever make society better.
I didn't mean to sperg out and write so much, I do think 2008 Icarus is a fun mod on a technical level and has a good aesthetic.

>>2179460
What would a mod look like that rebukes their same old message of Republicans = fascists and democrats = weak collaborators?

>>2179460
It's why I am reasonably partial to Astro. Sure, EoH was more or less just Wofford glazing (a fag senator from Pennsylvania? I'd be more surprised if he didn't), but it didn't beat you over the head with it. And he makes historical mods too.

>>2179460
We're getting closer and closer to a mod calling Lincoln no better than the confederates.

>>2179492
>What would a mod look like that rebukes their same old message of Republicans = fascists and democrats = weak collaborators?
A right wing mod I have no doubt would be just as annoying as the standard left wing mod or extremely chud, a centrist mod could talk about the lefts desire to self destruct but even then the problem is not the message, it's the fact there is a message at all when it should be about the alternate world.
A centrist mods background lore could be something like Joe '08 but that mod was not made to talk about how great moderation is, it was made as a "What if Lieberman lost the Democratic primary like he did in real life?" which is good! Don't focus on a message just make a fun mod with an interesting concept.

>>2179523
>It's why I am reasonably partial to Astro.
Same, he's a fag but I still like him, he's been in this community for so long and it shows since he doesn't try to ape TTNW writing.

>>2179540
>We're getting closer and closer to a mod calling Lincoln no better than the confederates.
It's funny how Nelson Rockefeller used to be the golden boy of TCT and now he's just another evil Republican.

>>2179460
>Midnight 64
Also Robert Kennedy is an unrepentant piece of shit that burns down the entire country over a petty rivalry
>Wallace 1972
It’s a genuine honest to goodness miracle that “The Stand for the White House” exists in its current form

>>2179546
Just a few hours ago the reddit was crying about Rocky and Attica lol

>>2179546
No one seems to remember it now but I was there when 1972: On His Own Term came out and there so many memes about how hilariously OP Rockefeller was.

Managed to win reelection as Bernie on normal despite handing over Ukraine to Russia, Taiwan to China and Gaza to Israel. Is this the end of US hegemony?
I was a bit disappointed that there was no unique ending slide for this.

>>2179654
There aren't any special ending slides because losing that much in foreign policy should basically spell doom for reelection.

>>2179658
And yet I've won fair and square.

>>2179546
> A right wing mod I have no doubt would be just as annoying as the standard left wing mod or extremely chud
We already saw this with that JD Vance 2028 mod on OpenTCT. It just turns into wank halfway through.

>>2180089
You’re talking about Swan Song? Or was there another one I wasn’t around for?

>>2179492
Try amplifying. 2008: GAMER'S GATE as a Kerry incumbency sim where all the opponents are gamergate figures like Trump (doesnt matter he was a dem in 08 because he CHUD) or limbaugh or marty o'donnell or mike lindell or prager and no matter what you do you get called CHUD anyway for not being leftist enough and even if you break up the banks you get called CHUD anyway because youre only slapping on a band-aid and you still caused gamergate for not being leftist enough. you gotta deal with a massive bernie third-party campaign that can win on normal with the right combos. soundtrack is hyperpop glitchcore screamo or melodramatic video game osts and the ending slides are breadtube video essay slop transcripts and #DARKWOKE ytps mocking you as CHUD for not being wholesome chudhating dem. Feedback always mentions chud nazis like kirk and ben shapiro and how your inaction will lead to gamergate.

Astro's new teaser
Taftbros are we back?

>>2179523
>>2179546
It’s funny that Project 2024 hasn’t even released yet, and yet Divided States just feels like nothing more than a watered down version of it, right down to all of those palestine poems at the end

>>2180777
I completely forgot that was coming out.
I don't expect it to be particularly good. I have a feeling that what's taking it so long is partially that Divided States did exactly what Project 2024 was going to do with 50% less of the overwrought purple prose

New Maryland mod is nice and simplistic. I hate how many mods try so hard to be art pieces. Wesley Clark one is unfortunately that way. Like >>2178065 said, all the greek stuff just feels completely unnecessary and offers absolutely nothing to the mod quality. It's a fun enough incumcency sim, but the sphinx stuff and all that is just groan inducing.

>>2180777
I liked Divided States. I thought the different Republican candidates were pretty fun, even if the drama after Trump dies should've been cranked up more. You can see some of this in the Trump Jr. path but it's only a small anecdote.

>>2180777
Divided States was kino just for the Grok Trump path alone.

>>2182043
grok trump is just a lame ripoff of hughes in ttnw. astro is incapable of having an original idea and has a pathological need to both dick ride and copy the w team at every opportunity

>>2182229
I mean, at least he makes mods about different elections instead of just jacking off over the Nixon era or 21st century mods like 90 percent of the community.

>>2182249
For me it's 1924: The Silent Decade

LMAOing at the 4chan endings in Icarus. That is not how 4chan writes now and not how 4chan wrote then. Abysmal lack of understanding, stick to writing about Discord and Reddit, bub.

>>2182249
The alt-hist of something like End of History is also far more thought out than something like Icarus.

>>2182253
Is there any mod with better replayability?

>>2182260
>4chan endings
You're fucking kidding me

>>2180717
This is what im conceptualizing. Every opponent is a copy-paste from one another be it steve king or tom tancredo and even butch hartman (no ron paul because every opponent is just a copy-paste of trump). Takes place in 2008 but feels like it's melodramatic troonslop incumbencyslop and half the questions are about gaza or how youre not pro-lgbt enough o algo. Would work as a parody I think.

>>2182299
>Would work as a parody I think.
Sure, why not? I doubt this will ever get made by a team, since one would 100 percent instantly fall apart but maybe if one Anon decides to do all the work himself for some reason it would exist. Probably never will though.

>>2180717
This is what im conceptualizing. Every opponent is a copy-paste from one another be it steve king or tom tancredo or even butch hartman (no ron paul because every opponent is copy-paste of trump like bannon or yarvin). Mod takes place in 2008 but feels like any other melodramatic troonslop incumbencyslop with half the questions about gaza or how youre not leftist enough and the feedback super cynical. Reason why Kerry says "We need to pivot to the right" is because the "message" is that dems are CHUD-lite and even bernie's third-party splinter CHUD-lite lite and no matter what you do youre always CHUD. Would work as a parody I think. Wont ever happen though.
had to reupload the image.

>>2182310
I like it, it just needs more anachronisms.

>>2182260
>4chan endings
post them

>>2182260
It was pretty cringe.

>>2182365
Rest are here
https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1odm44p/paul_bros_its_over/

>>2182620
Writing is just weird

>>2182229
The route seemed to be about how AI was used a lot during the campaign and how Elon tried to claw as much influence as he could. It was pretty funny if you don’t have a stick up your butt.

>>2182755
I do have a stick up my butt THOUGH

>>2182266
>The alt-hist of something like End of History is also far more thought out than something like Icarus.
The only time I’ve seen this general have a lengthy discussion about the alt-hist of EoH was in the context of complaining about all the meaningless pop culture bullshit like Sega beating Nintendo

DSA seems to have been made back in September 2024 for how much it glazes Kamala and thinks that Elon will somehow take over the country.

>>2182260
>>2182291
>>2182620
Doesn’t Obamanation also have a 4chan ending?

>>2182620
It's very common for people who have never been on 4chan to only experience it through screencaps. But given how incomprehensible greentext looks there, the "Update", etc. I don't think whoever wrote this has even seen one of those. It doesn't even attempt to make the posts look period appropriate, which is something the W. writers at least attempted.
>wiltedflower.png
Give me a fucking break. Most alt-hist mods allude or mimic contemporary politics to some degree. Rock Me Dukakis paralleling 2016 comes to mind. But this is the result of someone who's either too young or too incurious to portray how different the zeitgeist actually was back then. I'm old enough to remember Ron Paul being the Reddit candidate in 2012.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guLEUhIgRAI

>>2182826
I dunno, astro still comes across like a kamala glazer today for the most part. It’s the W. crew that were all souring on her when the palestine shit at the convention got aggressively ignored and the uncommitted delegates were shut down. Then again, they still haven’t bothered yet to change that candidate description making her out like she’s a battered housewife, tragically cloistered in the White House by the evil genocide joe when she could be saving America

>>2182882
>Rock Me Dukakis paralleling 2016 comes to mind
Martha said Rock Us Dukakis was supposed to be paralleling 1980 as a contrast to the original Dukakis ‘92 mod paralleling 1964. Dukakis is Carter 2.0, gripped by the malaise of the early 90’s recession

>>2182620
What the fuck lmao

>>2182833
Indeed it does

>>2182821
Sometimes this general just hates fun. I liked the ending where Hillary takes out Mark Milley like Putin.

Lost the popular vote but won the election

>>2182266
I love the democratic machine 1852 one. I hope they actually do the whig side someday.

Any mods about the Know Nothing party?

>>2184865
3rd parties are incredibly neglected, but I think there's Millard fillmore in 1856 and that's it.

>>2187035
did you get mccain, he seems to be the best choice for a total victory

are there any scenarios where you can play as byrd? doesnt matter what year

The new update for W. is pretty annoying. It messed with how you get Wesley Clark as an opponent.
Now you have to do the hawkish state of the union too. Which I guess makes sense

>>2187840
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can win another four or five states on top of this.
Lieb takes over the GOP in his second term and 2012 is McCain crushing Joe Biden.

>>2187881
what got updated?

>>2126308
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Peruvian_general_election#Presidential_nominations
I don't know if there'd be any player interest but as an scenario the potential is there, you had up to 8 candidates as serious contenders for most of the process and plenty of spoilers in the middle, real free-for-all shit

>>2188287
On the 'internets' thing now some of the obscure prerequisites for certain hidden opponents are shown when you get them.
Apparently they rebalanced some of the achievements somewhat.
And now you have to do the hawkish SotU address to get Clark

And they fixed a bug which blocked on the WW3 endings

>>2187847
no that I know of. Byrd '76 or '88 would be amazing

>>2190335
>'76 or '88
As president or senate?

>>2190347
President. I think 76 would make a lot of sense as an alt-history.

So 2003NL is out and basically there are only three ways you can play it:
1. Play as the VVD and form a VVD-CDA cabinet
2. Play as the CDA and form a VVD-CDA cabinet
3. Play as anyone else, or try to form literally any other fucking cabinet, and get assraped into oblivion

>>2189525
>And they fixed a bug which blocked on the WW3 endings
>>2189525
Just checked, nope they didn't fix it.
It's been broken since they added Jobs

Played 2000 Palpatine again today, and it made me think again how cool a proper Star Wars prequel mod about Palpatine's rise to power would be.

Does someone have the github link to the hillary a lifetime of this mod? I dont have a github account and im assuming that keeps me from seeing all the codes. Its alphabetical and I cant see anything past filename 1984

>>2192416
You don't need an account, you can just use the "go to file" search bar to find the codes indirectly

>>2191006
>Can't play as LPF
lame

>>2192543
The same LPF who by 2003 have lost their leader, had their previously novel talking points on immigration and crime become totally co-opted by other right-wingers, and generally been reduced to politically irrelevant schizos?

>>2192561
absolutely
gives me Reform 2000 vibes after everyone electable bailed out in one week

heartwarming

ugliest mod of all fucking time

>>2193749
It's still alive?

>>2191006
Skill issue

>>2193749
>>2194052
Did anyone bother saving the Code 2? I still have the Code 1

i ahte that game!!! playtestednnn en It was awful!!!!!! had to take a xanax after!!

>>2193749
Something about the writing and ui for this mod gives off deeply autistic vibes. Idk what it is exactly but every time I see a toozer for it I immediately associate it with autism.

>>2194387
> makes a mod for tct
> “Thats not autistic”
> adds weird colors
> “Omg this is the most autistic stuff ive ever seen…”

>>2194391
Lol you can’t even use meme arrows correctly. Go back to discord sperg

>>2194323
Getting a strong tism vibe from this post…

>>2190335
>>2190347
>>2190423

>>2194573
Normally I don't care for presentation gimmicks since most tend to feel shoehorned in but this actually fits well because Byrd cared a lot about Roman history.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1E1633114E0E358F&si=YGCvs8Bn7q6RezuW

>>2194573
What mod is this?

>>2194868
Presentation gimmicks are only good if it relates to the main subject.
Like Byrd and rome
So I think a Newt Gingrich themed mod should be themed around the animal kingdom, cause he likes zoo's.

MANGO MY SON

>>2191006
Purple is my favorite color

>>2174043
Dude, you fucking burned every single bridge you could. There was no coming back. And now all I've ever about the grooming shit, I'm disgusted I ever worked with you. You fucking chud.

Vice just died.

>>2203232
Rest in power king

>>2203232
Vaxxed?

>>2203232
Dick Cheney is funny because, of course, his daughter is a lesbian, but clearly he must have been the best father of all time because even though he raised a lesbian in fucking Wyoming of all places, she didn't leave home, stayed a conservative, and followed in his footsteps.

It's just fucking wild

>>2205946
And then was somehow used as a strong support for the democrat candidate. Weird.

>>2205946
Listened to a NPR bit where they interviewed some muslim sounding girl from the UK who first went to college to learn and refute evolution (Was a creationist) then converted. One of the points she raised is the rather easy to see political/social one that because of our biological hardwiring for tribal solidarity we end up supporting things we would not want to if left to our own devices, but which the tribe mandates. Cheney was probably one of those "I don't really give a shit what the gays do but I need to cooperate with the oil-tribe and christian tribe so fuck it we ball"

Doesn't just go with gay shit either since you can be certain plenty would reject usual orthodoxies if they didn't suffer politically for it

>>2194868
Based byrd

i've played all the way about 30 times and i still cant get peace without a guide. its always the fucking october surprises.

>>2206047
Democrats have been politically retarded for quite some time.
They think the way to win is to win the old school Republicans offended by Trump's sensibilities, not understanding that those people really only exist in government and not the average voter.
So they alienate their base, and fail to make compelling policy positions because they're trying to court an incredibly minor sect of the old school GOP.

Anons, I'm starting to genuinely like Bush and Cheney.
Everyone gives them shit for Iraq, but they stopped a genocidal dictator. A dude who's son would go to weddings, rape the bride, then burn her face with acid so she'll never be as beautiful again.
Even if you count the most outrageously inflated estimates of the death toll of the Iraq war, it still pales to the death toll of the various crimes and unjust wars started by Saddam.

And people talk shit about the Patriot act, but I've never been bothered by it. And meanwhile we haven't had one foreign-plotted terrorist attack on our nation since it, and the other anti-terrorism laws, went into place.
And why should social security be more privatized? It's already fucking insolvent and a larger portion of gov't spending that the military. That's a good way to alleviate that financial burden and issue.

Everyone is so fucking mean about him. Joking about him burning in hell. Why would we wish that on anyone. If he would be saved, wouldn't we also be saved by extension?
idk man.

>>2206743
Dems are chud lite who think catering to literal chuddy nazis is how to win instead of gee FREE FUCKING HEALTHCARE
fucking chuds primary all of them out

>>2206761
I hate Bush not for any faggy reason like Iraq but because he was too kind to Muslims in the U.S.. He was the cuck who started the whole "religion of peace" meme and I will never forgive him for that.

>>2206838
republicans are cucks in general
Vance is the only one I've seen that doesn't act that way

Are there mods that's stars Dick Chaney?

Chuddy Chudsevelt

>>2208600
Vice on opentct

Mod where Trump and the CHUDS are forced to live election night 2020 forever and every iteration DARKWOKE grows stronger until the chuds all kirk themselves

>>2209276
Any good ones?

>>2209615
What mods do you consider good