Thread 2122697

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/tinto-maps-29-central-america-feedback.1855759/

Hello, and welcome to another Tinto Maps Feedback post! Today, we will be reviewing the region of Central America.

As you may notice, in this region, we had two different main focuses for the review. The first one was reworking and adding some more locations to the Caribbean Islands, especially Hispaniola and Cuba, as those were among the oldest sections of the map. On the other hand, in the mainland, we basically focused on tags and cultures, as the main distribution of locations was good enough.

Let's now take a look at the maps:

Countries:

SoPs:

The most relevant changes were the additions of several chiefdoms in Hispaniola and other Caribbean Islands.

Locations:

Provinces:

Renamed the following:

Azcapotzalco to Anahuac
Tlalnahuatl to Tlalnahuac
Cuauhchinango to Cuauhchinanco
Huastec to Huasteca
Cutzeo to Cuitzeo
Matlatzinca to Matlatzinco
Guachinango to Tetela
Zahuatlan to Zinacantán
Quauhtemalan to Cuauhtemallan
Xochitepek to Kakol Kiej
Q'anjob'al to Cuchumatán
Cholollan to Choluteca
Popocatépet to Kuskatan


Areas:

Renamed the following:

Tetzcoco to Mexihko
Tututepec to Huāxyacac
Tzintzuntzan to Michoacan
Popocatepet to Kuskatan

Climate:

Topography:

Vegetation:

Lots of changes!

Dangers:

Development:

Harbors:

Cultures:

Religions:

Languages:

The first one is Language Families, the second one is Languages.

Added the following:

eastern_otomanguean_language
cuitlatec_language

Renamed the following:

Otomanguean to Otopamean

Raw Materials:

Markets:

And that's all for today! See you on Wednesday with another Tinto Taks from Johan, and Friday, with the Tinto Flavour for Castile. Cheers!

>>2122697 (OP)
AZTECS SKIN KIDS

>>2122697 (OP)
>>2122703
>>2122722
>>2122725
>>2122727

Release the fucking game already (((johanne))) you stupid fucking kike

>>2122714
Florida will be really powerful for an exile or split off colony game. Look at all the harbors, you'll easily control the Caribbean.

>>2122722
Ah yes, the famous "Maya" language.

I mean it fits the amount of bullshit they have in more or less all of these maps outside Europe so yeah.
At least I have smug self-satisfaction in ridiculing the MS Paint Simulator Tribe as posers who don't know shit even about fairly common/popular topics. It wasn't the games leading them astray, they themselves were the historilets who just repost reddit memes and giggle incessantly over them.

>>2122759
Always a grim day when you pick up a book and realize how retarded your paradox-based knowledge of a historical period/region actually is.

>>2122759
In most of the world the "language" label stands for a small language family, while the actual languages get grouped under the label of dialects.
Admittedly, I don't know much about the differences in the Maya languages. But do you think the game would profit from more than a single Maya language?

>>2122759
>>2122788
Are there people who actually take every border and representation literally? I've always viewed it as just that, a representation. Not something exact, but something good enough to give a general idea of what was going on. I mostly adopted this mindset to make sense of all the nonsensical things that result from game mechanics (like how taking a port in EU4 typically results in removing a huge chunk of a country due to province size).

>>2122759
nothing outside of europe and mena matters

>>2122805
And India, it is a very important region sir

>>2122759
You should post your well researched and sourced feedback about the language used by the various central american states/tribes on the forums, anon!

>>2122759
languages don't represent actual languages but close enough language communities I mean just look at Finnic which covers both Saami and Balto-Finnic languages

>>2122804
>Not something exact, but something good enough to give a general idea of what was going on
That's kind of what I'm referring to - you end up mentally filling in the blanks based on the sum of becoming aware of something through e.g. EU IV and then reading up on it on wikipedia. Then you read something actually detailed and it turns out the game isn't even close and even the wikipedia article is at best technically correct about some things, or flatout wrong because a miminum of checking the page reveals that it was all written by one Chinese guy in 2006 or whatever. And it's only because you bothered to pick up a book that you even found out how limited your original conception even was.

>>2122802
>Admittedly, I don't know much about the differences in the Maya languages.
They are called Maya languages because we figured out they are related retroactively.

>But do you think the game would profit from more than a single Maya language?
Mayan history is the money maker of Mesoamerica. There are Mayanist conferences in America, Europe and Asia alike, Mayan Revival architecture from the US to Japan, major Mayanist departments in the US, in Western Europe, in ex-communist Europe, in communist Asia and capitalist Asia alike.
Aztecs are a very distant second which is mostly contained to Mexican researchers and publishers. And the rest of Mesoamerica doesn't even register.
For better or worse, they are the poster-child of Mesoamerican research. That's why Spielberg made a movie about Maya, Dreamworks made a cartoon about Maya, Lara Croft explored exclusively Mayan ruins and people went apeshit over the end of the Mayan calendar cycle. But Aztecs get fuck all outside of Mexico and Mesoanon.

As far as why you'd want to do it on the gameplay/simulation side, the whole idea behind Maya history is that these places have never joined into a single state. Making the place a single language is in the same ballpark as "Indo-European" for Europe (outside of Magyars, Szekelys et al).
You don't even need to go all anal about it (as has been done in Europe, just look at the British Isles' languages) but at the very least splitting Maya (jungle city states of the north, core of Mexican Maya) from K'iche' (forest mountain kingdoms of the south, core of Quatemala) would give you the most bitch-basic split which defines the area.

>>2122850
post it on the forums bruv

The part of me that likes all this depth and content is quickly being replaced by the part that realizes this game is probably gonna run like lategame Anbennar with all the regions active by the time you get to the 1400s

>>2122902
Don't worry Anon, Johan confirmed major performance updates, the game runs smooth as butter now

>>2122889
Anon, I'm not going to be doing unpaid work for a sloppy company.
Try and get Mesoanon on the line to probe their ass. He's made unfucking these sorts of things a part of his life's mission.
I, on the other hand, am simply disappointed that they're scamming these kids and autists so shamelessly they couldn't even be arsed to get the most mainstream disciplines right.
Letting them make blatantly obvious fuck ups just makes my job easier once I need to convince the next generation that Swedish jews are fun MS Paint mods but they really can't use them as source of truth any more than TikTok videos.

>>2122920
Making things less detailed is done on purpose to allow for more DLC sales in the future

>>2122920
Honestly no idea what you are even seething about here desu

>>2122926
he's mad that they didn't autistically model every dialect of ancient mayan language

>>2122805
sandniggers don't matter.

>>2122982
Every story needs a villain.

>>2123006
that's England

>>2123038
That's the hero.

Wow, It's Fucking Nothing: Redux:

>>2122926
>culture that exists to get eaten by one of the colonial powers doesn't have enough detail
Pretty sure it's one person and early in the dev diary threads he admitted he doesn't care about grand strategy games and only visits these threads to complain about this.

>>2122920
>sloppy company.
There's a limited amount of time and effort that can be put into the game. This just isn't a region that's worth it. There's conferences for basically every historical subject. Does the fact there's a conference for Indonesian history mean that Indonesia should be a major focus of the devs?

>>2123063
So he's like a low-grade version of one of those obsessed schizo autists /vst/ attracts.

>>2122697 (OP)
Bunch of savages that will get rolled up the second any European or Asian power reaches them

>>2123071
Less schizo and more autistically obsessed with a single subject to the point where he can't understand how irrelevant it is.

>>2123006
You can just model Judaism in.

>>2123089
That's the hero.

>>2122920
They're pretty responsive in the feedback (unless you're a seething Balkanoid or Chinaman)
just copy paste your posts and they might make the change

>>2123063
>only visits these threads to complain about this.
Based desu. A waste of time but based.

>"Here is another DD about some irrelevant shithole!"
No thanks.

>>2123186
These ones are special because they are horrible monsters on top of that

>>2123190
>These ones are special because they are horrible monsters on top of that
You are describing 90% of countries that have existed.
Ottomans made skull towers of balkenoids. And that is hilarious yes, but also evil.

>>2123063
>culture that exists to get eaten by one of the colonial powers doesn't have enough detail
Unlike the quickly outnumbered northern native americans, the maya culture and mayan dialects were the majority in their region all the way into the 1900s. Hell, the last independent mayan city state took until the end of the XVII century to be conquered.

>>2123201
That's nice but in game they will die to Spain before 1500

>>2123201
*blobs all over you because annexing natives is much faster than colonizing*

>>2123210
Not if the eternal swede and his spanish interns actually deliver on the game having logistics.

>>2123263
We have seen in the Serbia pre-release game that the Serbian army lost about 20% of it's morale just for leaving it's territory and fighting in south Macedonia in an:
>Away from home
Modifer.
I get the feeling that the morale penalty for being half away across the world might be a bit higher.

>>2123212
We need a blob mod for EU5

>>2123265
Will be really fun to beat a European country in a war as a smaller Asian one simply because you have the home advantage.

>>2123265
I don't think it will be distance based. It's likely just a flat 20 to give a defenders advantage. Maybe slightly more for being overseas too but nothing that would actually prevent Spain from absolutely dabbing on natives.

>>2123424
Announcing CK3: Price of Ambition DLC

>>2123424
Announcing... the release date of the release date announcement

>>2123434
I would not even be mad honestly. Would be a good jape.

>>2123201
>the maya culture and mayan dialects were the majority in their region all the way into the 1900s
There are plenty of cultures in the game that are the majority in their region to this day. That doesn't make them inherently worthy of the effort to put that much detail into them.

I wonder how long it will take to make Europe completely Muslim

>>2123536
it's going to happen by the 2100s

>>2123470
The point was that it doesn't just exist to "be eaten by colonial" powers, making the most relevant native cultures more detailed helps enrich the game by creating future contexts for conflicts when the euro player arrives; instead of just being bumb #1697 in the map painting road.

>>2123577
bump*

>>2123577
>making the most relevant native cultures more detailed helps enrich the game by creating future contexts for conflicts
I fail to see how that applies to the Maya.

>>2123551
I need to make sure I live healthy so I can see this, epic

WILL THEY ANNOUNCE EUV IN GAMESCOM IM LITERALLY SHAKING

ARE YOU READY TO PREORDER BOYS?

>>2123609
YES MY BODY, SOUL, MIND AND MONEY IS READY. WELL, WHATEVER IS LEFT OF THEM.

>>2123595
>I fail to see how that applies to the Maya
I imagine you must fail to see a big many things, the maya family language group (with about the same number speakers as danish) is only below quechua and guarani in numbers, and that's after centuries long violent repression and without the government support those 2 native languages enjoy. And the conquest of the maya was one of the most long lasting and ruthless conflicts the spaniards had to face in their conquest of the americas.

>>2123620
a great* many things. God, I fucking hate this disgusting language.

First Playthrough is gonna be of OTTOBVLLS (people who began the early modern period)

second is gonna be ANGLOBVLLS (people who ended the early modern period)

>>2123624
please don't lower the value of your arguments by posting stupid shit like this

>>2123536
I wonder how long it will take to lock Eurosissies in a cute little chastity cage and make the continent completely BLACKED.

>>2123624
>God, I fucking hate this disgusting language.
Ah, so you're some kind of seething Hispanic.

Me? I'm 17% Maya, pure Yukatek stock. Balam is my spirit animal

>>2123620
>with about the same number speakers as danish
They're less relevant than the Danes though, which is what matters here.

>>2123658
kek

>>2123670
I don't get it, do you want an interesting game of colonization (one of the key aspects of the european golden age as presented in Europa Universalis) or not?

>>2123651
I just really dislike some elements of english.

>>2122982
If MENA doesn't matter then how am I supposed to remake the Roman Empire???

>>2123630
As long as it takes for the first African men to arrive from the vast wealthy Mali Empire.

>>2123658
>pure Yukatek stock
How big is your head?

Release date soon?

IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING

that was it??????????????????

Well, that was it

>no release date
this was a joke, right?

4 Nov, 2025

>>2123797
feels bit too soon, thoughts?

NOVEMBER
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>2123797
That's actually way sooner than I expected

>2 more months and 2 more weeks
AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2123806
I'm like 100% sure it's because Paradox is dumping their Vampire Bloodlines 2 slop in October, so they need an EU5 win in November to balance it

>>2123797
>November 4th
Those trolling shits
Also, 3 dlc announced before the game is even out is a bit on the nose as well

>>2123815
first 3 dlc are selling shit that should be in the basegame
why would anyone buy this game if they keep byz content and hyw content out on purpose

>>2123821
>day 1 dlc

>2025 release

I'll be unplayable, won't it.

>>2123823
its atleast half a year until the DLCs, calm down

>those recommended specs
This game is going to run like absolute ass, isn't it.

I got excited at first, then I remember how dlc-bloated paradox games have to be before they're playable

What the fuck is premium edition?

>>2123847
A whaling ship

>>2123827
>I'll be unplayable, won't it
Of course, good thing I actually enjoy the schizo changes of mechanics between versions

>>2123847
Here.
>>2123821

>>2123827
Like it was not clear before today lmao

>>2123834
>8GB of VRAM recommended
F for all poorfags in the chat

When is the release date of the actually playable version of the game

>>2123861
The racemix models aren't gonna render themselves

>>2123861
>latest gen i7 as recommended
Bro

>>2123862
2029

stop being poor guys, you have 2 months to save some money

>>2123873
Small indie company, please understand

>>2123879
Retarded desu. The game will probably be unplayable around the 1600 mark even with that i7. I have a ryzen 9600x and I'm getting nervous.

>>2123862
2035 when all the mods are halfway finished for it. Then they'll be abandoned when EU6 is announced

>>2123878
What should we prioritize in terms of upgrades, the CPU?

>>2123879
I fucking wish they were still a small indie developer making games with poverty specs, I don't want my map painter games to have the same demands as the latest AAA slop.

>>2123886
depends on your CPU but yeah that and ram

>5600X3D
I am paying for cheaping out and suffering for my jewry. Jensen was right.

>>2123861
I don't even meet the minimum specs, do I just play for like a couple decades

relax guys its not even out yet. and I thought paradoxplaza was toxic lol

>>2123906
Their forum is toxic? I thought they curated the shit out of it

>>2123821
>only 1 DLC per quarter and it's all flavor
That actually sounds pretty good. They're not loading mechanics into DLCs and they're not rushing them out the door.

>>2123861
I'm literally only btfo'd by the graphics card. Sure I may not have some gaming laptop, but it isn't terrible either. I hate this phenomenon of games requiring absurd GPUs, especially when the game looks nearly the same visually as games they released years ago that run fine. I really hope this is just a work in progress measurement.

>>2123797
>>2123803
>>2123805
JOHAN I KNEEL

>>2123909
>laughs in the more than 100 pages of balkan fight shitposts

>>2123861
I know I need to download more RAM but holy SHIT I hate trying to remove and install it when the motherboard's already in the case.

>>2123942
It's literally the easiest part to replace

I'm going to buy it on day one merely to piss off all the browns/thirdies/poorfags that piss and shitt themselves over muh DLCs
Not going to preorder though

>>2123947
Why would someone preorder a digital game? It isn't like it is going out of stock.

>>2123943
I can't stand how much force it takes to slot it in and how the mobo bends when you do it.
At least something like an nvme drive is just finicky, you're not worried about your shit cracking while you do it.

>>2123803
>60 eurodollars for beta testing
you just know this shit will be unplayable slop for like the first 2 years after release

The CPU req and the fact that they haven't shown off any late game content (do we even know how colonization works yet?) tell me this game is going to make Vic3's chugging look like a bullet train for 99% of players.

>>2123861
>32 GB RAM
Lol
Lmao even

>>2123952
What mobo are you using that it requires "too much force" to replace the RAM sticks or this a wimpy zoomer thing?

>>2123951
I know, right?
I think it's a relic from the era when games were still all physical.

>>2123968
I don't remember, it was some old Asus one from years ago
>"too much force" to replace the RAM sticks or this a wimpy zoomer thing?
I don't mean it's physically taxing, I mean you have to push so hard on it that the mobo flexes. It's the same problem I have with the main power cable to the mobo which is why I do that outside the case too.

>>2123834
>>2123861
So many thirdies and poorfags instantly filtered. I kneel GODhan.

>>2123967
hi thirdie

>>2123951
Because they were planing on buying it day one

>>2123974
That's weird, motherboards shouldn't be that bendable. Perhaps getting it out of the case and over a sturdy and flat surface when doing the RAM replacement would help.

This is going to be the most "playable after 5 years"-Paradox game ever

>>2123834
Not if you have a non-potato computer like they recommend lmao.

>>2123975
It is less about the price and more about this all being a bigger issue. Game devs put absolutely nothing into trying to optimize their games nowadays. They also put in a bunch of extra stuff like stimulating condensation that no one will ever notice. They basically just expect a group of whales will keep them afloat as they put less and less care into something that should be a top priority. This is a bad sign even for those with the required specs.

>>2124014
I don't think I'm the only one because I've read other people talk about their board flexing.
>Perhaps getting it out of the case and over a sturdy and flat surface when doing the RAM replacement would help.
Honestly I kind of considered pressing on the board from the back while I do it since my case has a cutout there but I don't know if touching the back of it fucks it up.

>>2123861
This is really bad. Cities Skylines 2 was review bombed at release due to atrocious performance.

>>2124016
no it won't because pdx hasn't made a good game since vic2

>>2123947
>I'm going to buy it on day one
>Not going to preorder
Bizarre behaviour. If you're buying it on day 1 anyway pre-ordering or not does fuck all.

Lmao.
TOTAL POTATO DEATH!
TOTAL POORFAG DEATH!

>>2124028
We can just hope this was set because it is what they've tested it on in studio. I've played a game before that had absurd spec requirements but still ran fine albeit with some overheating.

>>2123861
Im fucked

>>2123861
>A fucking Paradox game has higher recommended specs than Battleslop 6

>>2124027
Depends on the mobo and its distribution, though as a general thing you should use antistatic wrist bands (more as a thing to calm yourself really, as it is extremely unlikely to damage modern electronic components through insignificant statitc discharges) and, obviously, clean hands.

>>2124047
But too much innit

>>2124047
Every human model in the game has an 8k raytraced diamond buttplug inserted, please understand.

>>2124047
Small development division-studio, please understand.

why are you surprised this game needs a good cpu. retarded niggers you knew the map was like 30x larger in size and that the game was gonna be vicky3 and eu4 combined for like a year now what did you actually expect

can't wait for this game to be ass like victoria 3

>>2124047
Brother, you do not understand, we need to simulate populations of a million shithole tribes in Africa and America that no one sane is going to play as anyway because nothing except Europe and MENA matters.

>>2124088
It is the gpu
Intel i7s are handed out like cookies nowadays, many laptops come with them. The gpu requirement is what is patently absurd for this kind of game.

>>2124113
a 1060 is absurd in 2025?

>>2123987
My rig is only 5 years old and I'm not buying more RAM for one game.

Is it going to be dog shit like Vicky 3?

>>2124121
32 gigs is like a hundred bucks these days but I do agree it's laughable that you need that much.

Don't care still preordering

>>2124117
Perhaps I was getting ahead of myself. I'm not really good with the chink number spam as I only use integrated graphics cards which are never mentioned on requirements. On further inspection, I actually think my potato laptop will be able to run this just fine as it meets every minimum requirement. I still believe it is higher than it could be however. I'm a bit obsessed with optimization and efficiency though.

>>2123895
That was a nice trailer desu.

I'm a thirdie about to become a fourthie and I preordered the premium edition.

Hopefully this doesn't crash and brick people's PCs like vicky 3 does.

>>2124133
The content they've shown off is already enough to be very good even if the game was just what they showed. I actually kind of wonder how they'll make any DLC feel worth it unless they are simply planning to make them cheaper for this game.

I legitimately don't think any other game actually asks for a fucking 14700K (or a 7800X3D) even you ultimately want to have one anyway.
>>2124113
A laptop CPU isn't the same as its equivalent desktop one both by design and because of thermal throttling.

>>2122697 (OP)
the "breakdown of society" will probably be fucking brutal now that it's not a simple temporary malis but most of your populaton dying

>>2124151
>unless they are simply planning to make them cheaper
Judging by the DLC of other paradox titles they're going to be overpriced and low quality.

>>2124151
You think it'll be better than 4? I'll wait and see but after paradox's last few games I'm very skeptical

>>2124151
Keep in mind that they have not shown anything past the first 100 years, probably for a reason. The game will likely be flavorless just like vicky 3.

You may return your knees to the floor.

>>2124158
I'm waiting in awe for how the upcoming Vic3 dlc will go down. The game does desperately need flavor on top of some more system fixes. But the shit they have on the roadmap does not sound like it will work. Balkans and Iberian flavor. Probably will just end up being a few things randomly place through the timeline and very unimpactful. Will also immediately get buried under a dozen system and mechanical changes and additions. Will quickly go from simply overpriced dlc, to full on abandonware like all the previous Victoria 3 attempts at flavor "content".

>>2124168
*while the game is paused

>>2124168
Just as it is about to leave, the cock enters my mouth again and I start back up the sucking.

>>2124144
>On further inspection, I actually think my potato laptop will be able to run this just fine as it meets every minimum requirement.
Don't forget your fire extinguisher, anon

>>2124168
Who the fuck plays map simulators games at 4k?

>>2124197
>Who the fuck plays map simulators games at 4k?

>>2124168
This is a useless performance metric in this genre. The second you unpause the game it's gonna drop to 1 fps.

>>2124201
VGH

>>2123827
releasejank is SOVL

>>2124151
>I actually kind of wonder how they'll make any DLC feel worth it unless they are simply planning to make them cheaper for this game.
The base game will have almost no alt-history in it, all the wacky stuff will be limited to DLCs.

>>2124254
All the alt-history mission trees gradually hindered my enjoyment of eu iv, so if this is really the case eu v might be good

>>2124107
This is problematic

>>2124256
Lets hope Johan stands by his word and doesn't add mission trees with OP buffs or buffstacking altogether

>>2124265
>buffstacking
Was mainly an issue of exessive tag-switching. Now that you can only form a country from a higher tier it shouldn't be a problem.

>already #1 on steam
KNEEL

>>2124254
It will be cool if they give us unique situations, organizations, and disasters with the different paths. Essentially telling a full alternative history story that is built in a way that meshes well with whatever the AI ends up doing. It felt like they were somewhat attempting this in some of the later EU4 dlc but the mechanics/manpower just wasn't there. If they can pull this off though, it will definitely be the best Paradox game. One of the parts that has always been missing from the flavor and dlc is that there isn't a lot of flavorful consequences to your actions. So many interesting possibilities.

you guys boughted the preemium edition yes?

>>2124282
Hell naw.. never buy paradox dlc. The base game is all you need, pirate the rest.

>>2124282
>byz dlc
fuck
I wasn't going to, but now Paradox got me thinking.

>>2124282
Not after Vic3 and it's abyssmal DLCs.

>>2124283
>>2124285
>>2124286
saar please do the needful and purchased the big edition please support johan save map game

>>2124282
i have buyed it yes

>>2124285
Buy it solo when it releases instead of the premium pack

>>2124282
I'm not boughteding it until I know how it runs after 1660.

>>2124282
Buy?

>>2124282
No I will keep pirating it for the next 2 year safter release at least.
Giving them money for this game while we STILL not know how the game plays and runs past early game is the most retarded thing you can do.

>>2124282
i would have if it meant i could play the game a week early

>>2124151
I'm guessing the game will feel very "empty" at the release and the DLCs will add more international organizations, events and other types of content. Seeing how often blobber players complained about acquiring claims and the parliament as a whole that too could undergo a revamp that could be sold.

>>2124309
One of the people who got early access I think his name begins with an L? He was playing Serbia and I watched him play and he went on and on about.
>"Oh it's super hard to get CB's! They need to change that! I could only get CB's by going though this system! Paradox make it easier to get CB's!"
So there are utterly retarded wormtounges trying to speak poison into Tinto's ear and make the blobbing much easier.
Personally I think the system they had in the preview is perfectly fine.

>$60 dollars
>3 quarters of DLC already planned
LMFAO

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2124317
Have you tried not being canadian?

>>2124320
I'd rather be a leaf than a burger

>EU5 still takes place on a Ringworld.
LMAO! They still can't handle globes? Tranny programmers turned Victoria 2 into a global simulation why can't Johan do it?

>>2124323
Yes, chang we know already.

I'm buying the premium edition like a good little piggy.
You can't stop me.

>>2124325
Only a tranny would think a globe would be a good idea.

>>2124323
elbows up saar

>>2124333
Why is a globe a bad idea but making the game;
>Europa Instillation 005
A good idea?

>>2124325
Globe looks fucking ugly

>>2124325
imagine unironically thinking the earth is a globe

>>2124343
>Sun is a sphere.
>Moon is a sphere.
>Mars is a Sphere.
>But Earth is flat.

>>2124313
I also like the direction they were going with, though I can see the problems in the system as well. I think a good solution could be events and event chains that would simulate various local conflicts and inheritance clashes that could give you claims, that way expansion would feel more natural in the playthrough. These claims would be random, so an estate interaction independent from the parliament to get claims where you want them could be created, with a cooldown of 10-20 years.
Hopefully that way you could still expand where you want to, expand to place which which might make sense narrative-wise whilst still being able to use the parliament system for it's original purpose.

>>2124344
the earth being flat is why it can support life. If that was not the case we would be falling off the planet.

Odds and I buy
Evens and I pirate

>>2124350
Lucked out on that one

>>2124350
Enjoy, girl.

The world's an oyster.

>>2124345
Yeah I think the system you propose would be fine. You can even link it to the Rival system. If you border someone and Rival/have poor relations it could lead to a CB event or something. That would feel pretty natural both for the player and the AI.

>>2124347
>If that was not the case we would be falling off the planet.
I have always wondered, do flat earthers not believe in gravity or do they disagree with it being related to mass?

>>2124360
uhh the plane we are on is constantly moving upwards

so what the fuck is the difference between an Immersion Pack and a Chronicle Pack

>>2124368
Immersion packs offer immersion while Chronicle Pack is a chronicle.

>>2124370
ohhhhhh

>first PDX developed game in a decade to be released only on windows
fucking johan and his jews, if I have to pay for geforce now or somesuch I shan't be buying your DLC

>>2124373
just use windows 11 bwo

>>2124368
I assume one is going to be flavour/alt-history for a single country while the other will be for multiple ones surrounding a specific situation.

>>2124362
But shouldn't the sun and the rest of astronomical entities just "fall", i.e. dissipate then?

>>2124379
I bought a Mac for work and I refuse to buy another thousand dollar PC for one game. Every other strategy game I care about is on here, including *all* previous Paradox Development Studios games since 2012, and I use consoles for console games.

>>2124362
Then why aren't we hitting the firmament, huh, smart guy?

>>2124384
>>2124389
God

>>2124386
>I bought a Mac

>>2124344
There aren't planets, they're pictures of frying pans. The rest you see are lights in the firmament.
Read a book. The "Earth" looks something closer to this.

>>2124394
Damn paradox withholding all of this for DLCs?

>>2124168
This is genuinely retarded. Lowest min specs should be toaster mode, not "HURR YOU HAVE 4K, RIGHT?"
I was about to throw money on upgrading my CPU and motherboard for this trash.

>>2124386
Buy a 500 dollar windows laptop
It should work

>>2124386
>I bought a Mac

>>2124394
Modderfags are too gay to mod this into a paradox game.

>>2124414
Anyone who tries is silenced via unfortunate """"""""accidents""""""""""

>>2124394
A schizo Paradox game would be kino.

>>2124394
How powerful of a PC would I need to render a map like this?

>>2124420
At least a 1060, I think.

>>2124338
>>2124344
The maximum amount of a sphere you can see at one time is only 50%. There was an RTS called Planetary Annihilation which took place in a solar system, and it flopped because of spheres.

If doing strategy on a globe was the optimal way to do it, wouldn't militaries IRL be doing it right now? Checkmate.

>>2124414
Pretty sure quite a few CK2 mods tried something similar

This is the sick desires of globetards (they wished EU5 looked like this)

>>2124440
>geoscape gameplay
it was peam in '94 and it's still peam now

content creators got early access again
hopefully we get some late game videos out of this round

>>2124458
I want to see if Napoleon is in the game

>>2124458
But eu5 content creators have been absolute shit so far

>>2124440
Kino.

>>2124458
Source?

>>2124488
my hag wife said so

>>2124489
>wife
>her

>>2124491
irish dykes are women too

>>2124492
Irish aren't even human.

>>2124494
A cow isn't a human but that doesn't mean it's not female

>>2124458
no arumba no watch

>>2124489
ewwww

>>2124496
Sex with cow brings very good fortune and helps with reincarnation. This is why it is better to play in India.

>current price: 274,99zł
>current price after conversion to US dollars: $75
15 DOLLARS EXTRA FOR NO REASON LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO

>The little portrait is still in the corner.
FUCKING NIGGERS! LISTEN TO US YOU FUCKING FUCKS! GET RID OF THAT FUCKING PORTRAIT NNOOOOOOWWWWW!

>>2124508
It's punishment for being Polish. As God intended.

>>2124508
>western European prices
>eastern European salaries
we truly are the Christ of nations...

>>2124518
This is why you make sure to have a cute girl as your leader so you like looking at her face.

>>2124489
Nice, can’t wait to watch her 12hr eu5 streams

>>2124508
suffer for your crimes against humanity, polak

>>2124518
The little victoria3_flag_imported.gif is still there too lmao

>>2124489
Based and hag sex.
So that is why she could not stream for the past couple of days.
Should have seen it coming since I follow a small Spanish Youtuber who also went radio silence the past 4 days.

I really hope there is UI scaling because I have a feeling this won't fit on my monitor

I want to blob

>>2124543
Scalability is the excuse they use for the shitty UI.

>>2124556
I'm okay as long as I can make it smaller.

>>2124518
It's not that bad. And it doesn't even take a lot of space.

>>2124440
Why can roblox do this but paradox cannot?

not even gonna pirate this bloated trash. shit is gonna CHUG

>>2124561
Roblox developers are some of the biggest autists. Probably because the platforms game maker presents itself as being a simplified game engine. While it is not really it is the thought that counts and it fuels people to actually work (making a game itself is very easy but many don't realize this and thus work slowly).

What will you do if you decide to play as one of those Chinese nuggets? What is the gameplay like?

>>2124580
You pray to the lord Ming doesn't eat you while you eat your brothers. It is basically like playing a shark in the womb.

how do they intend to pile on 35 DLCs that will invariably slow the game down even worse? all the players wanted is an engine that is scalable and doesnt slow to a crawl

>>2124159
It already is better.

>>2124492
She's an Australian slut.

>>2124611
they intend to do "flavour dlc" that adds "content" to 1 specific nation since they want all mechanical changes to be free

simply put you will buy the 12 euro dlc for insignificant nation you didn't even know existed #1625 and you WILL be happy

>>2124526
>paradox brainwashing us to become pro-matriarchy

>>2124528
>12hr
Xe will stream for one whole day, I am sure.

>>2124168
>4k
This retarded meme has done so much damage to gaming it's unreal

>>2124580
You just have to kill. The moment you have an opportunity to eat one of your neighbors you need to do it. If you don't then you'll just end up eaten by whoever manages to get larger fastest.

lol
>a 3060ti for mobile-game-tier graphics
lmao even
>a map that looks like a low res jpeg
kek
>remembering the cpu performance of vicSHIToria 3
kekarooooo

>>2124679
lel

Time to upgrade from my 5 5600G to a 7 7800X3D and 32gigs of ram

>>2124693
>7800X3D
poorfag

>>2124679
>I'm poor
Thanks for letting us know anonie

>>2124679
Fucking hell, Paradox. Optimise your games for chrissake

>>2124282
Of course

>e-celebs have been playing for atleast 1 week again
They fucking better show some new stuff soon.

>>2124697
It's not even about being a poorfag. The performance was still bad during the YouTuber showcase, and they must have been playing on high end machines.
Graphics were shit too, like it was on medium settings or something.
Just admit it, this game is heading for disaster if you need a high end machine just to get a paltry 30FPS (at game start mind you, late game lag much play like a bitch)

>>2124763
I don't negotiate with /gsg/ers. The game will be good. You will lose. These are the facts. This is your last warning.

>>2124763
>Just admit it, this game is heading for disaster if you need a high end machine just to get a paltry 30FPS
Oh no, my static 2d map game will only have 30FPS! OH MY SCIENCE SPEED 5 GAMEPLAY MIGHT TAKE SOME TIME!
Speed 5 NIGGERS make me sick.

>>2124113
brother the recommended gpus are 2 generation old midrange gpus that can be found for like 300 bucks

>>2124750
dude i even see cunts with like 20k subs getting to play. i should have started that youtube channel all those years ago

>>2124770
There are like a few dozen true paradox youtubers.
You absolutely can get an audience as long as your audio is not dogshit.

Will 5 stop Asia becoming as advanced as Europe?

>>2124766
he meant 30 paused btw
and that's a pipedream for nu-paradox

>>2124769
I thought it was trolling but there's really people on here complaining that they can't play games in 2025 with their mid-range business laptop from 2009. GPU prices are bad nowadays but you can get by without upgrading for a while.

>>2124526
Look it's sydney sweeny

Bros, this game is stronger than my AMD 9 5900x.

>>2124804
no he didn't but keep seething thirdie

>>2124808
this is a classic strawman from techlet consoomers

>>2124829
poor, brown or both?

>>2124839
I've got a toilet in Vienna that needs cleaning. You in?

>>2124842
You the first in your familiy that owns a toilet? Happy for you.

>>2124845
???

>Hello everyone, I´m Rossarness, a Release Engineer and QA Coordinator here at Paradox Tinto, and I was also responsible for preparing the hardware requirements for the game.

>I noticed that the requirements that we´ve posted have created a lot of uncertainty in our community, so I´m here to clarify and explain what our performance targets are and the process.

>Starting with minimal requirements, our performance objective is that you have an average of 30 FPS with 1080p resolution, with the game running in Low preset. That means you still get to experience our beautiful terrain map and all 3D elements, just with a bit lower quality.

>Then we go to the recommended requirements, which were selected so you can experience the game in all of its glory, meaning average 60 FPS at 4K with ultra settings, which is why we´ve selected such high hardware requirements.

>Below you can find a comparison of the quality between the minimum and recommended specs

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/regarding-hardware-requirements.1856031/

>That's good to know! Will the fact that FPS halves when using minimum specs also mean that the time per tick at speed 5 halves? Or are these things not that directly correlated?

>They are not correlated, we measure performance at speed 5 so it´s 30 FPS at speed 5

>>2124872
OMG THEY IMPROVED THE PERFORMANCE FROM THE PRE-ALPHA BUILD?????
BUT RANJEESH TOLD ME IT WILL BE SHIT

>>2124872
>Had to relearn UI.
Low IQ.

>>2124872
ask him how late game is

>>2124872
OMG 230 EVENTS!? AND THEY ARE UNIQUE!? I AM SO EXCITED!

>>2124878
this but unironically

>>2124869
>still looks like shit even in "all of its glory"

>>2124869
>our beautiful terrain map
lol, what map is he talking about?

>>2124885
I:R map maybe

map looks good though and much better in motion

literally no one uses the terrain map

>>2124900
>>2124903
me when I huff the cope gas

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-76-20th-of-august-2025.1856053/

Hello everyone, and welcome to another Happy Wednesday where we talk about features for Europa Universalis V - which, you may now be aware of, already has a release date, November 4th!

Today, we will go through a few UI building blocks we use in EU5, where some are blocks that you are familiar with, and some are completely new.

Tooltips
First of all, the Paradox classic, the tooltip. Without the tooltip, I suspect the games would not be even remotely playable. This game is not different in this aspect, but we have taken a few extra steps to make it even better. We have been basing our tooltip design heavily around the nested tooltip systems that we first used in Crusader Kings III.

As this game is a bit complex, we try to clarify a fair bit of words and what they mean in our game. Those words, which we internally call game concepts, are colored blue and can be tool-tipped, giving a small explanation about them.

Wait until the end of this post to see what a Hint is…

As we often have values with a lot of sources impacting them, they become harder to read, but in EU5, we have switched to using tables in tooltips whenever

That is a nice policy in the Maritime Law.

A final thing we have in tooltips is the actions, so it shows what will happen when you click on a button with a left mouse button and/or right mouse button icon.

We got a quick action here to right-click to do some relevant actions.

If the action is not possible, there is a small condition block in the tooltip showing why.

Ah, yes, this is too expensive, as our Nobles are too powerful...

>"I conquered all of Italy in less than 100 years. It's REALLY REALLY REALLY easy to conquer"
game is dead on arrival lol

>>2124907
https://youtu.be/RHgSLXNNsWw?si=CWYaT2tygBi7f2Px
This is the only gameplay I found with max settings but if you think this looks bad you cant be taken serious.

Outliner
This is a building block we have used for almost two decades to have quick tracking of armies, constructions, and other things in progress. In EU5, we now have two versions of the outliner, where you can have a simpler one if you feel the normal one is too noisy.

It's a quick way to select units and change things on the fly.

And of course, we got settings so you can toggle what you want to be able to see:

>>2124908
Honestly this is pretty shit. I should not have intel on countries I have not discovered. If I am playing as the Aztecs I should assume that I am the great power of the world until proven otherwise.

Right-Click Menus
As with many of our games, we have context-sensitive right-click menus that appear when you right-click locations, countries, characters, or units. This can save you some time doing things you wish to do quickly.

The menu below is what we get when right-clicking on a foreign location on the map; the bottom buttons allow you to get location, province, and area-specific actions instead.

And you can directly see their current opinion, trust, favors, and your spynetwork..

When right-clicking a unit, you get a menu like this, and the menu won't close if you just click a toggle.

Alert
One thing that we have been using in our GSGs for a long time is the alert system. We first introduced it in the Revolutions DLC for the original Victoria almost twenty years ago. In EU4 we had 3 different colored alerts, but here we have added 3 new colors.

The orange alert is between the yellow and red in danger.
The blue alert, which is for pure UI hints, like a tutorial notification, or not having a control group.
The purple alert for situations and disasters.

You can always discard an alert if you think it's noisy, and it will only appear again if the conditions change.

>>2124916
>I had a war with Castille where they had ~90000 levies and I stack wiped them with 5000 soldiers
>professional army is OP

Messages
Another classic that has been with us since the original Europa Universalis back at the start of the millennium is our message system, where every message in the game can be configured to show in the news log, be shown as a pop-up with pause or not, or be shown as a text message on the map.

The little button at the top right allows you to configure how you want to display it.

Each message has a category as well, making it easier to configure.

>>2124869
At least the guy in the corner still looks fine at lower settings. Low quality terrain is whatever but the one thing I absolutely can't handle is the people looking like graphical monstrosities.

Search and Filters
One of the new systems we have developed for Europa Universalis V is our concept of search and filters for every list of elements in the game. The search bar allows you to search for anything in the list, like listing buildings with a specific modifier, or finding something by a partial name match.
Filters also allow you to toggle on what should be displayed in the list, and you can toggle any selection of filters.

Another good thing with the filters is that you can easily go from, let's say, a selected location, and then click the population number there, and it will go to the population view with that location as a filter.

Mapmode Color Ledgers
Another cool thing we have added to the game is a color ledger for most map modes, so you can see what the colors actually mean. We have added a button next to the current mapmode so you can toggle it at any time.

Hints
Finally, we have our Hints system. This can be accessed from the top left menu, but you can also shift-click alerts and many buttons in the game to get a specific hint relevant to it.

A hint has a few flavorful quotes at the top, where the characters with the best stats you have in your country will give you their advice on the selected hint. This was, of course, inspired by the advisors of Civilization 2.

You also get an explanation of the reason for the hint, and a few suggestions for actions you can take to alleviate or remove the problem. Any yellow text here is clickable and will take you to the panel where you can do something about it.

This can be really helpful to teach you the game mechanics…

And that’s all for today! I hope that this helps to understand how we’ve been building the UI systems of the game, to be as helpful for the player as possible, and make them robust in the long term.

And also remember, you can Pre-Purchase Europa Universalis V now! Cheers!

>>2124919
There's a game rule to limit the ledger info

>>2124917
Imperator came out 6 years ago, rapes eu5 visually and has these requirements

>>2124931
EU5 will work with these. You just have to play in windowed. Works everytime.

>>2124925
i'm so glad they keeping ruler portraits as part of general UI
so many plebs seething

how 2 get good at EUV?

>>2124935
Really?

>>2124916
Where is this from

>>2124936
I'm not seething I'm serious. The people always have to be the highest quality for me as anything lower I find a lot harder to look at than low quality anything else. Maybe if more devs put in work to properly simplify their characters for lower settings. But they don't do this for anything now.

>>2124945
clio talking about her time playing venice atm

>>2124869
It looks like ass, Imperator still has the best map

>>2124942
A lot of these high graphic games seem to have performance really affected by resolution. I've played many above my specs before by making it a smaller windowed screen. It even allows you to use higher quality graphics. It can even be nice to play some games like that + it isn't all too different from how much of your view a TV may take up when playing on a console or something so it isn't like it is impossible to adapt to.

>>2124947
>Search the name up
>Vtuber
>Also: "her"

>>2124955
Yeah that's a tranny name lmao

>>2124954
Hmmm ill try it, hopefully i wont need this

https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Clio_Aite
Mein Gott...

>>2124869
I do not give a shit how many triangles the map has, I want to SEE how the game actually runs. If one day takes takes one day irl to tick over on low then that's not very playable no matter how cool the maps looks isn't it?

>>2124954
Part of why the recommended specs are so high is they're testing in 4k. The eternal meme resolution that's been "the next big thing" for almost 15 years and counting.
a 4k frame has four times as many pixels as a 1080p frame. in other words, you could render the game in 1080p four times over before the 4k one finishes rendering. which is why the recommended GPU is a relatively recent card but the minimum is ye olde 1000 series.

as for the CPU, honestly I don't give a shit about what the recommended spec says because they'll always recommend the strongest CPU you can get. All paradox games are like that, speed 5 uses the whole processor no matter how strong it is.
The only difference between minimum and recommended are the graphics settings, so what the minimum spec tells me is that a shitty intel CPU from 8 years ago can run this game, even without the flatmap. If you have any AMD processor from this decade it'll work even better.

>>2124935
One is running at 1080p high hitting 60fps on a GTX 660. The other at 1080p low to hit 30fps on a GTX 1060
Now go upgrade goyim, you aren't poor are you?

So when are we getting more videos?

>>2124975
FPS is literally irrelevant in paradox games, if you unpause the game it's gonna hit 1 FPS anyway.
This metric is completely irrelevant for representing actual gameplay experience.

>>2124967
I'm bit alarmed how nobody mentioned how long a month/year takes on speed 5 using those CPUs. Being able to run paradox games was always a very low bar, same can't be said for reasonable tick speed.

>>2124976
in 2 months

so why are you guys poor?
just buy a better pc lmao

>>2124979
Cope bud

>>2124980
We already saw speed 5 gameplay in the early previews. If you time it, you'll find the tick speed is slightly slower than EU4 but only a bit.
What did perform badly however was the 3D map, see the IGN ""preview""
The fact that their recommended spec for 4k/60fps now is a 3060 means they either fixed something or the reviewer was playing on a mac mini.

We'll have new previews soon so we can see if anything changed.

>>2124992
no one actually uses the 3d map anyways so who gives a shit

>>2124980
The only data we have on this is that influencer preview build and that shit was grim even though it was only for early game.
Paradox isn't retarded and MUST know that simulation time is the actual metric people are looking for when they ask how the game runs. The only answer is that they're withholding that information on purpose, which doesn't look good to say the least.

>>2124994
I fully predict it will be like Vic3 where you don't zoom in because there isn't much of a reason to. Maybe occasionally getting bored and trying to find the prettiest part of the map, but that is it.

>>2123861
>F for all poorfags in the chat
According to ChatGPT the minimum one would only be €400–€600
>“The minimum build is now “retro hardware,” only really viable if you buy second-hand.”

>>2124394
>Realm of Humans
>Realm of Aryans
Well I guess that settles it, Iranians aren’t Human

>>2125004
in vic3 you got a mobile UI where half your screen is covered by a menu so you can spam click the same + button
hard to see much of anything

>>2125006
>According to ChatGPT
Why are you the way you are

>>2125004
Well you'll have to actually zoom in to click on armies and small provinces whereas Bricky3 has no military control so you know

>>2125017
Do you expect me to look for each part on Amazon and sum up the prices. I might play Paradox games but that doesn’t mean I’m some super autist

>>2124975
Brutal

>>2125025
>I might play Paradox games but that doesn’t mean I’m some super autist
Anon we've got some bad news for you

>>2124975
>60 euro video game running on average consumer hardware from 2025
>looks worse than fucking Runescape
How did it come this

>>2125048
To be fair, you are looking at the low graphic quality setting

>>2123861
i was ready to complain, but my pc actually goes over the minimum requirements besides the ram

The performance is a travesty lmao

>open game
>go in settings
>change graphic preset to ultra or whatever
>looks great but lags
>go into settings
>turn resolution down from 4k to 1080
>looks the same but runs 100x better

>>2125056
>turn resolution down from 4k to 1080
>looks the same
Dis nigga blind.

Wtf do you need 4k graphics for on a glorified menu simulator

>>2125070
Forming Germany requires 4k 244FPS.

>>2124975
It's fucking crazy how good the Imperator map looks. Beutiful stuff.
In contrast you really have to ask yourself what the fuck happened between that and EUV.

>>2125073
He's literally me fr fr

https://youtube.com/shorts/Aj5jP8JxxHw?si=wuAGx8yEDlg-BapZ
I cant fucking wait no more.

>>2125054
Same as Clio

>>2125076
Are you actually posting shorts you ADHD retard?

>“I do tune out most of social media, but every once in a while someone will say something, it’s always the weirdest stuff,”
>“…and then I go, ‘I think I might be upset about something a 12-year-old in India is saying’… You know what I mean?..."
Holy fuck, Johan dropped a nuke.

November 4th can't come soon enough.

>>2125088
>Get back in the home country on Nov 3rd.
Very lucky, it's like they picked this date for me personally.

>>2122759
sorry pedro, no one gives a fuck about your third world backwater.

>$60 for the base game
That and no guarantee of it working on linux (though wine should make that possible) will make me probably wait until Christmas to get it. $60 is my hard limit on games. I don't like the immediate DLC spam, but at least mechanics won't be locked so I'll just wait 10 years until it all goes into a humble bundle for $20.

>>2125093
They said no Linux support on release.

>>2125093
troonix fags on suicide watch (oh wait they already were like all trannies lmao)

>>2124489
this is why i am embarrassed to tell people i play paraslop.

>>2125102
Microsoft is one of the main vectors of globohomo. And mac is for fags. Linux only has trannies because autists are unfortunately easy to confuse.

Old hag (tranny) larping as a cute anime girl talking about the EU5 experience:
https://www.youtube.com/live/FWwMmnWqC9I

>>2125080
Heh

So, with the game coming out in 2 months, do we have a real reason to choose a particular country on the map, and a real reason to play it for more than 10 years? Or will that be a part of a DLC in 2042?

>>2125117
anbennar will be truly EPIC

>>2125082
yeah, mad?

I've got a feeling this game will be ruined because of the community feedback. The customer is never right. The forums are just full of third worlders crying about their "lack" of representation and Paracocks seems to be listening to them. The game will run like shit because Hispanic Shithole #2427482 will have 17 provinces.

>>2125127
The game will run like shit because of 8K textures and a bajillion values being calculated every tick, the number of locations will only linearly increase this.

>>2125117
Play as Mali and colonize the New World and force your BBC on puny little Euros.

>>2125128
They actually modeled penises for this one, you happy now? Each ball hair is modeled and animated.

>>2125127
>because Hispanic Shithole #2427482 will have 17 provinces
Colonial hispanic america was way more developed than colonial anglo america, so those regions having more provinces would be accurate.

>>2125086
It depends. Is that 12yo indian a brahmin or a dalit?

>>2125128
That's only true if they didn't code immigration to consider every other location as a valid target

I'm only interested in whether the mechanics of making the Aztecs emperors of China will be preserved in eu5 kek

>>2125135
Time to get in the barn

>>2125163
In a perfect world any country considering conquering China would be given a path to declaring itself the emperor. Sincization should chinkify you too.

>>2125112
>Old hag (tranny) larping as a cute anime girl
Wow, I really want to watch this

>>2125145
Its mind melting either way, low caste Indian will insist their shithole needs to be buffed 1000x while high caste Indians will go on about how they are Aryans and should be separated from the lower.

>>2125177
She spends 20 mins saying that she is mentally ill and the only people who speak to her are her roomates who are going on holiday.

>>2125179
Why did the high caste allow their people to be subjected for 1000 years?

>>2125195
Never happened, and if it did it was white Europeans who were at fault.

You are using a code to support your favourite content creator, right?

>>2125171
Mesoamericans were chinks since the beginning so that shouldn't be a problem.

>>2125193
All vtubers are mentally ill, that's not a surprise.

>>2125206
Absolutely. His name is Gabe Newell. Somewhat niche guy desu.

>>2125112
Everyone thought she got suspended for hating on trannies, who would've guessed she was just playing EU5

>>2125206
I only watch the playmaker and student with regularity because their style is out of the way and they show interesting ways you can win by using math in the game.

>>2125206
Ah forgot to do that, oh well its their fault for playing EU5 nonstop and failing to release a video with the code before I pre-ordered.

>>2125206
pitch me one that needs/deserves my support

>>2125206
i can only buy through steam, sorry big guy

>>2125206
I'm not fucking preordering this mystery box type game, you have to be a god damned retard to do so.

>>2125179
Bloody madarchode

I'm preordering only if Johan sends me a signed GPU so I can use their useless 3d map and toy soldiers

>>2125206
I was considering it but it turns out paradox is nice enough to give lower steam prices for my region. Might preorder the basic version.

is there a 2d map mode and can I switch from gay toy soldier models to based and traditional nato counters like hoi3

>>2125271
Well you're lucky because they make us pay 15 dollars extra.
They're not kind, they just accept the default steam conversion rate without a second thought.

>>2125179
Based, and both are right.

>>2125284
Poland? Why does Gabe hate you people?

>>2125274
Yes and no probably not.

>>2125340
We had a favorable conversion until the post covid inflationary spike when 1 dollar briefly hit 5 PLN, that's when they updated the conversion to $1 = 4.5 PLN and it's been like that for years since, even though the true conversion is like $1 to 3.6 PLN and it has been that for a good while. The fat fuck in charge refuses to even acknowledge that there's an issue and devs simply accept what valve gives them since it's easier that way. If you take a look at price comparisons in different currencies on Steam you'd think Poland is some fucking superpower or something, since the only people who pay more for their vidya are the Swiss. Most people actually avoid Steam because of this and buy keys from resellers.

Imagine being fined 0.25 dollars for every dollar you spend, because that's what this equates to.

>>2125206
>Preordering a Paradox game in big 2025
Do gsgtards really?

>>2124778
The Student's audio is utter dogcrap and he's the best paradox youtuber

>>2125363
>vtranny calling anyone else retarded

>>2125363
If you're going to be buying/playing it day 1 you might as well and despite the airs put on here most people here will be playing day 1.

>pdx content creators

the only one worth watching is florry

>>2125399
vtuber website

>>2125363
>Preordering a Paradox game in the only year they release a promising game
Yes?

>>2125470
I'm still astounded that /vt/ is somehow the 4th most used board.

>>2125493
Indonesians

>>2125493
Bitches be crazy.
Both the femoids and the fans.

Don't forget to preorder for the preorder bonus. Don't let altright grifters keep you away from goty.

>>2125206
>Premium edition costs $80+ to buy straight from Paradox
>$60 for my region on Steam
Sorry, I live and breathe in the third world.

>>2125541
a real third worlder never pays for videogames

>>2125545
a real third worlder chucks spears at large animals for entertainment

>>2125493
Browns and women. Sometimes even brown women.

>>2125493
What the fuck

>>2123955
€$60 is crazy for the starting price considering you'll need €$200 of DLC in two or three years just to get a proper campaign going

>>2123967
Makes sense given how autistically granular everything they've shown in this game is.

>>2125617
First actual DLC will be in 2027 tbf.

Oh no...

>>2125630
This doesn't matter. What matters is how challenging it is even with strength. Do you still feel the same difficulty and flavor level once you unify Italy?

>>2125630
>she
He wish LMAO
>june 2024
Anon...

>>2125630
>there are performance issues
>by fucking 1425
She has a 7800X3D.
It's over brother, the game is officially running worse than late game Stellaris.

>>2125630
>using levies will ruin your economy
The entire point of levies is that your economy isn't ruined by professional soldiers. Your nation's manpower in agricultural states were inherently expendable. You didn't need some random farmer all the time. His excess labor was exactly that, excess.

>>2125630
>crippling performance issues in the first century of the game
johanbros... it's not looking good...

>>2125645
A lot of this is stuff that is realistic and I really hope these faggots don't ruin it. Venice totally could spend out the ass to build up a merc army and topple Constantinople. Less aggressive expansion for uniting your own culture makes sense (although maybe they should increase the amount great powers nearby try to interfere with the process). The player being able to predict the black death and prepare is true for nearly every historical event. Game difficulty is subjective anyway and what matters more is how fun the experience is. EU4 was restrained in many ways because of attempts to "balance" it that just ended up making roadblocks that led to weird results.

>>2125630
>If you rush a professional army you can dab on the levytards.
...yeah, this is what happened historically. Building a professional army became a thing because it was very effective.

>>2125630
Metagaming is cringe and boring... who would have thought.

>>2125665
>metagaming
what

>>2125662
It is also nice and rewarding for the player to let them feel smart for "choosing what's good" for a few years while the AI catches up. I hope there are a few other points like this throughout the game.

>>2125646
>>2125641

>>2125653
aggressive expansion should be highly regional and/or dependent on what powers want influence in a region. Ottos shouldn't really care what happens in Italy unless they invade Naples, but the Italian minors should absolutely make a coalition if Venice is expanding over the po valley.

>>2125630
>Clio
She is a turboautist, though. I genuinely believe she could do a world conquest after a few weeks of practice.

>>2125639
That's the date the poster joined the forum, not the date of the post.

>>2125680
>she

>>2125685
fucking hell anon, yes she might very well be a tranny. I don't know, I don't know enough about this vtuber to find out or give a fuck because I tried to watch her video on eu5 and found it boring. Something that is a far worse sin than being a tranny.
Now can we actually talk about the game?
The claim was made that the AI does not enter coalitions enough to deter blobbing.

>>2125694
>might
Stop seething, anon. Also, you should take vtubers opinions with a grain of salt.

>>2125630
Balancing + Byzzie favouritism.
Expected desu.
Balancing but sounds WAI.
Balancing
Balancing + Player preferences. They'll need to see how genpop actually takes the Black Death before ratcheting the difficulty up most likely.
N/A
N/A
This is the kicker. She's saying it chugs this early on but we have others with worse rigs than hers if she's right there'll be weeping and gnashing. I saw someone say she was on a June build though so idk?
Balancing same as above
N/A
Balancing. Literally lol.
Sounds like a bug
Balancing
Balancing
Sounds like an oversight.

>>2125694
he's just messing with you. every vtuber is a tranny, that's why they all don't show their face

>>2125723
What if they're just ugly

>>2125685
nigga she's a bull dyke.

>>2125723
They don't show their faces because they're contractually obligated not to.

>>2125728
She is bisexual just like any other women nowadays.

>>2125731
>she
>woman

>>2125731
women are not bisexual, they don't have a sexuality. Anyone that pins them down and rubs against them turns them on.

>>2125732
She.
Woman.

>>2125736
>She.
>Woman.

>>2125737
She.
Woman.

Does it matter

>>2125739
>She
>Woman

>>2125741
>inb4 it's Johan doing damage control to steer the discussion away from dogshit performance

>>2125741
Misgendering someone is never okay. Why do you give a shit about what others do with their bodies you freak

>>2125742
She.
Woman.
>>2125741
A stand must be made against the trannyposter.

>>2125746
>she
>woman
Ten more surgeries and you'll still look like a pig in drag dude.

>>2125749
She.
Woman.
I am a handsome man with a big beard. I could bench you gayboy.

>>2125752
LOL keep at it white knight surely he'll reward your efforts with a crumb of man ass.

She's part of Phase-Connect and lmao on the Japs hiring a tranny.

I predict it will be another case of every Paradox player's performance is personalized. You'll see people with better specs bitching about the game slowing down at some point and becoming unplayable, but never notice it yourself other than maybe a slight drop in speed.

I know everyone is excited for EU5 to come out but a lot of map servers are infested by chuds. So this might help a lot of the queer posters I am seeing in this thread!

>>2125630
>AI hates the english
damn, the AI is based???

>>2125782
>every copy of EU5 is personalized

>>2125630
EU5 just seems like EU4 2.0 with some extra steps.

>>2125793
so it's good then

>>2125790
>>2125782
>Haha Johan didn't make his copy with love and affection like he did ours. What a loser.

So what country are you playing first? Is the Paradox forums based or cringe for having this chart for country popularity.
Why do people love the purple blob so much? Why would anyone want to play a turk? Is England even a real country?

>>2125630
My hag wife on the cover of the Paradox Plaza.

>>2125801
Where's that from? IIRC the actual stats have France #1, then England and then a large gap to everybody else.

>>2125801
castile

>>2125807
This is stats for Paradox forums interest in playing countries in EU5.

>>2125801
Malibros...

>>2125810
Ah that explains it. The forums + stated interest. It won't look anything like this in reality then.

>>2125811
Sicily was fucked harder desu.

>>2125801
Achaea -> Latin Empire.

>>2125807
I think France in EU5 will be too complex for a lot of players. England is in a much more simplified position so I think England will be more popular this time.

>>2125801
Who the fuck is lining up to play Kanem

>>2125801
Saxony. I’ll probably spend most of run obsessing over making Europe Protestant. Which is what I got sidetracked with in most of my runs in EU4.

>>2125817
France should be complicated. Considering the position of the Capetians in the Middle Ages, it's not hard to think of France going the way of the HRE.

>>2125827
Paradox better put this in a DLC

my /copalib/ turns into /gif/ gore spam and /int/ism, le sigh...

>>2125801
Holland being so low is a real shame. It is always a good comfortable experience and the Netherlands is a pretty good tutorial area, like a step up from Ireland.

>>2125801
>Kiev
Alright pack your bags lads Paradox has been compromised this game is going to be shit

>>2125801
>Aztecs almost made top 10 even though in 1337 they were still a swamp-hillbilly tributary of Azcapotzalco
People are going to be very disappointed.

>>2125868
I'm sure you'll be able to speedrun the triple alliance and make the whole region your bitch almost immediately.

>Byz most popular by far
gross paradronicums

>>2125719
The game's 2 months out, they're not gonna fix all that balancing
Might be good later but on release it's ded

>>2125630
>>2125680
>>2125641
Buy an ad, faggot

>>2124197
>>2124660
t. Sour grapes pooroids

>>2125814
Everyone will be playing Naples.
Anyway I doubt people who said Ethiopia, Mali, Georgia, Wallachia, Kanem etc will actually play those

>>2125801
The one with my shitter home village in it, that should be the archbishopric of cologne

>check the hardware requirements thread
>someone posts about their laptop not being able to run it
Every single time.

>>2125906
>Ethiopia, Mali, Georgia
believable
>Wallachia, Kanem
no way

>>2125906
Wallachia/Moldavia are always fun though. Because you start weak next to dangerous great powers and your accepted culture is unique but fairly small.

>>2125171
With the tiering system they have I feel like this will very much be possible with most countries

>>2125630
>black death is worse for the AI than the player
This is what I feared, I hope higher difficulties will mean that the AI doesn't suffer as much from it because otherwise you'll always have a super strong start

>>2125827
Explain.

>>2125906
Ethiopia, Georgia, and Wallachia seem fun to me

>>2125677
Every great power was micromanaging Italy at this time

>>2125900
>The game's 2 months out, they're not gonna fix all that balancing
I explicitly point out a good bit of said balancing will only be fixed once players get their hands on it and decide.

>>2125936
You forget that Romanians and Black people in France exist

>>2125905
>indian keeps spamming
>will still never be white
embarrassing, have a pity reply

>all the poorfags on steam bitching over dlcs and system requirements
The great casual/thirdie filtering is upon us. Make gaming for rich geeks only again.

>>2126016
>Make gaming for rich geeks only again.
My over a year old 1100€ PC has almost enough power for 4k. This is just poorfag filtering

>Italy has barely any stone.
Building anything is going to be hard.

>>2126023
Why do you think they still all live in mudhuts to this very day?

>>2126023
Balkanoids exist to provide raw materials to Italians.

>>2124995
The recent build of EU5 looks to be two times slower than EU4. Larger sample size would be preferable and so would be tests for later dates, but this is all we currently have.

>>2126023
Marble is a stone thougheveralbeit

>>2126016
The DLCs are a valid complaint though I agree with the system requirements filtering turd worlders.

>>2126069
>The DLCs are a valid complaint
not really

>>2126072
They are though. If it's just extra flavour then fine, but if its like EU4 where very important and basic mechanics like support independence are locked behind it then its bullshit.

>>2126073
stop being poor

>>2125731
bisexual isn't real. he is just a tranny whore.

>>2126073
its just alt-history flavour, all mechanics will come with free updates like all their other games have been for atleast half a decade

>>2126079
>ages in EU4 requires mandate of heaven
>support independence still requires conquest of paradise. they're still charging 15 bucks for it.
>trade companies still locked behind 10 year old dlc.
>devving was only recently made free
>favours requires cossacks
>etc. etc. etc.
play eu4 with no dlc then tell me how its just extra flavor and nothing else.
>>2126077
paypig faggot

>>2126069
DLC is less valid since system requirements/optimization are more important to enjoyment of the game.

>>2126082
if you want a good game you need to pay, but we all know you are a faggot who pirates

>>2126084
I already paid for the game when it came out. What paradox does with their games is WoW tier. Especially now that there is a subscription system, for a game you already own and paid for. How much of a cuck do you need to be to willingly shell out more money for a product you already paid for? There are entire games that cost less than one paraslop dlc.

>>2126088
go play those then

>>2125801
Bohemia
going full hussite
fuck the pope

>>2126061
Did a test myself, current EU5 build would be 25% faster than the most recent Victoria 3 version, Wiz can't catch a break lmao

>>2125928
well looks like even a 7800X3D is having a hard time running it
you need to stop giving paradox a free pass or you'll end up with another vicky 3 and stellaris

>>2126103
T-THEY'LL OPTIMIZE IT FOR RELEASE PLEASE PREORDER OR ELSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THEIR JEET INTERNS ANYMORE

>>2126088
then enjoy the game without any additional content for 6 years until the next one comes

>>2126061
they should do last years of both games comparison if they want to get any meaningful results
It's certainly not going to stay JUST 2 times slower for long.

>>2126023
>all those rgos
S-s-s-s-s-scatological mayhem
I am pooping my pants :0

>>2125801
flanders

>>2126121
copycat

>>2125801
savoy, i have at least 800 hours as savoy in eu4 so i will continue the trend in eu5

How difficult will learning the game be if I ever only played EU and none of the other main titles?

>>2126179
It really seems to build a lot off of knowledge that an EU4 player would have

>>2126179
Paradox games are a lot more fun if you are not metafagging so just have fun

do paracucks really?

>>2126198
Yes, they really

>>2126188
Metafaggers will pause everyday to micromanage everything while using every exploit available and then will complain that the game is too easy. Then they'll have changes implemented that will make the game more annoying to play for everyone else.

>forums are starting to doom
Is it over?

>>2126251
for poors yes
as it should be

>>2126251
The forums are populated by a large amount of Redditors. Redditors are demoralized cattle cuck slaves. It isn't really special if they are dooming.

>>2126251
Aztecs are that popular?

>>2126251
You would too if you were smart.

Why do people start dooming about the weirdest shit?
Back when the first gameplay came out very few people complained about how easy it looked, how braindead the AI was, that half the mechanics were not working properly, that many countries had double to tripple the amount of people they should have had, that the black didn't seem to be doing anything. But what did they complain about?
THE UI IS KINDA UGLY AND THERE IS A PICTURE OF MY KING ON SCREEN REEEEEEEEEEE

>>2126264
>the black didn't seem to be doing anything
Whip him

>>2126251
Half of the threads are the feedback threads with people getting desperate, the other half are negative threads with players disappointed at Johan's questionable decisions. It's over.

>>2126264
Complaining doesn't actually solve anything, the devs know that the performance is bad or the AI is terrible saying it to them doesn't help. It does help to tell the devs that you don't like a design choice such as bad UI.

>>2126264
Because people assumed balance would be fixed and so Paradox needed to know the UI wasn't good
Now we see the balance wasn't fixed and the UI wasnt WIP after all

>>2126274
The UI is completely different though
If anything it seems they prioritized that, adding the tutorial, and fixing the horrendous 3D map lag, and balance got left behind

>>2126264
I'm dooming about the performance, I don't care about anything else. Performance is the one thing that can only get worse the more shit they slap onto the game.
If we're seeing dogshit performance in the early game before the AI makes 8 bajillion armies and pops multiply themselves a hundred times then it's over, the game is fucked.

>>2126279
Yeah performance and lack of difficulty concerns me.

>>2126282
Difficulty and basically everything else can be worked on even after release and it's not that hard of a fix, but it's much harder to optimize complex code that's already been made. This is what should always be prioritized in map games, every millisecond shaved off a tick equals a better gaming experience.

>>2126251
It's clear the specs are too high for most Paraslop players, who still have potato PCs or even shitty laptops.
And as you can imagine asking for a CPU from 2023 to play what is basically an Excel spredsheet with windowdressing is absolutely ridiculous.

>"Ironman cheevos? Thats a big yikes, Johan really is like a boomer gamer but in a negative way. All other modern Paradox games allow for mods and cheevos, but EU5 won't because it Johans pet project. Ugh, does anyone even play Paradox without mods, its trivially easy to cheat achievements in EU4 anyways so there is 0 reason to gatekeep them in EU5. This seems to me like an irrational move from Johann and like he's stubbornly clawing to his personal way of playing, forcing it on every EU5 player."
Based Johan making dopamine addicts seethe that they can't get their meaningless gratification by using cheat mods.

>>2126303
Only dopamine addicts care about cheevos at all however

>>2126302
Recommended specs are kinds worthless in this type of game, they literally don't tell you anything. Might as well write "the strongest CPU available on the market" instead of anything specific. There is no base level of performance that you can just stop on like getting 60fps at a set resolution.
It's crazy these niggas don't realize how important it is for GSGs to run as efficiently as possible.

>>2126309
That's some bullshit.
Your AA niche map painting game that looks way worse than Imperator: Rome should not need the same specs as Battlefield 6.

>>2126313
It's not bullshit because the game speed is uncapped on max speed setting. The game will run as fast as you processor allows it.
GPU recommendations are pointless, you can just disregard them. As long as you can render the map at all that's all you really need.

>>2126303
Gatekeeping achievments is based

>>2126264
>THERE IS A PICTURE OF MY KING ON SCREEN REEEEEEEEEEE
Do you seriously like seeing your ugly ass ruler on the top left of the screen instead of the flag

>>2126321
Considering rulers were the country back in the day, I don't see why it shouldn't be there.

>>2126321
Making the flag slightly bigger and maybe making the portrait toggleable would be my choice but people were acting like that portrait would start WW3 if it wasn't removed

>>2126321
Someone should mod it into an ass cam

>>2126328
just turn it into a basedjak
I'm sure someone will make a mod like this

>>2126324
By 1337 most polities had ceased to be the personal estates of their heads of state and had become legal entities, so this argument is more applicable to CK3.
>>2126326
The UI is crammed as-is.

>>2126333
>By 1337 most polities had ceased to be the personal estates of their heads of state and had become legal entities, so this argument is more applicable to CK3.
lol no

>>2126303
Achievements should only be available on Ironman.

>>2126336
Nice rebuttal

>>2126333
Removing the leader portrait frees up space, making the UI less crammed

>>2126343
So people are willing to look at Coats of Arms of rulers but not rulers themselves? Kinda strange.

>>2126348
unlike play-dough rulers CoAs actually look good

>>2126353
I don't think they are that bad, but Paradox does have to be intentionally doing it at this point. It is a lot easier nowadays to make a good looking human than a bad one that comes close to it. I think the problem may come from the concept art stage combined with them not having a clear direction. It is like they don't know if they want the people to look real or if they want some distinct cartoony style. Leaving us with human models that all share the same set of weird traits.

>>2126321
I just don't really see the point of it? I dunno, I'm not a woman that feels the need to roleplay as a Sims character in every game

>>2126395
But think of the nude mods

I will have cute anime girls on screen and you cannot stop me

>>2126400
Still waiting for a modder to make 3d ones

>>2126292
difficulty can be worked on after release, but that doesn't mean they will
their newer games have been made easier than ever to appease normies, and on top of that they've been enbloated by new mechanics (modifier stacking) dlcs add that ai simply is not programmed to deal with, so i'm not expecting anything

>>2126400
You'd be a sucker not to desu

>>2126313
>same specs as Battlefield 6
the new battlefield requires less

>>2126333
>most polities had ceased to be the personal estates of their heads of state and had become legal entities
literally not true

>>2126179
Much more.

This
>>2126403

It's very hard to make a game harder. Paradox games constantly get easier and only the challenge runs may experience periods where they get harder, usually trough unrelated mechanics. For instance it may be harder to do one faith world conquest after a patch because they added 500 dev and 20 new provinces but blobbing to 50 provinces is easier than ever. Once the players get used to the "default" blobbing speed of the day 1 experience there's no going back from that unless they do a day 1 patch to fix it and they won't.

>>2126328
Only for the pony mod.

>>2126333
>By 1337 most polities had ceased to be the personal estates of their heads of state and had become legal entities, so this argument is more applicable to CK3.
Maybe when the treaty of Westphalia was signed or even some time before that, but definitely not at game start.

>>2126411
How was it then? Genuinely asking.

>>2126336
>>2126411
He is right, though. Despotism was not as common as your average chud usually believes.

>>2126324
Putting the portrait next to the flag is very fitting for the time period, however the appearance of the ruler serves absolutely no purpose and it just feels like an useless clutter that most players are not used to.

>>2126447
Pretty sure the portrait is a button for some kind of menu, if it isn't then yeah it needs to be gone or made into one.

>>2126303
I like the way previous PDX games handled achievements, that is ironman mode with mods that don't change the checksum. They'll be completely ignored if graphical mods also happen to affect the checksum though, just like with CK3.

It would've been cool if they developed a shader that can make the ruler look like a period accurate portrait for the main UI.

>>2126400
This but cute furry girls
Can't wait for the inevitable anthro pops mod

>>2126459
>Can't wait for the inevitable anthro pops mod
>installs the mod just to genocide them

>>2126521
this but for albanians

1st game: replacing the French with Chinese
2nd game: forming a European caliphate and browning them all while making Islam the dominant religion
3rd game: doing everything possible to destroy and collapse Europe from the inside with a powerful subversive empire
4th game: forming a powerful state in the new world and colonizing Europe
5th game: uniting Africa and leaving no European race unmixed

>>2126539
>t. swede

>>2126539
show nose

>>2126539
>Westfalen->Ashkenaz primary culture Germany with Crimean Khazaria, Levant Judea, Abyssinian Solomonids and USA client states
vgh...

>>2126557
Is this the Jewish version of "Aryans" larping about Hyperborea, Agartha, Vril and Thule?

>>2126539
i will play as america too.

I like the UI

Byzaboo bros we fucking won
ROMA AETERNA

why are brownoid power fantasies always so pathetic?

>>2126591
Because they already have everything. It is hard to imagine anything better. The most powerful people.

>>2126303
Damn, the amount of seething Johan is causing with ironman achievement is pretty astronomical. Where the hell did all these people come from, I remember EU4 communities having this discussion multiple times over the years and each time it was heavily in favor of ironman achievements.

>>2126713
I thought they were getting rid of ironman. I don't really care eiither way, though achievements should be at least a little nontrivial

>>2126713
I personally don't care about cheevos but I don't understand why the game should make them so easy to obtain that might aswell not exist?
I'm pretty sure you can start a game like V*c3 in devmode and farm most of them in minutes, what is even the point of them like that?

>institutions primarily spawn in England/France/Germany/Italy
The historical accuracy of European dominance is off the charts.

>>2126726
I really hope the mechanics stay true to what they said about institutions just being a facet though. It was annoying how your country felt slow and bogged down in EU4 when playing as an Asian nation due to how institutions interacted with technology which interacted with the mana system. You definitely shouldn't have European trajectory without putting in the work to keep most games historical. But Asian nations also weren't weak for most of this period and also shouldn't feel dysfunctional when they are still the top of their local spheres. I've always felt like Asia should have its own list of institutions, maybe having some unique interaction with European ones when they eventually spread such as using them to replace some of theirs or something. Some just didn't make sense in EU4 such as the Renaissance since Asia had arguably been in one for quite a while.
Tldr: Represent the arms race in Europe and their growing strength without messing with other gameplay loops

>>2126726
Institution spawn matters less because it just unlocks techs. If you are Asian nation you can just tech trough what ever institution you did unlock while you wait for the others to unlock as well so you aren't really losing anything except the opportunity cost of having to potentially pick weaker techs while the stronger ones are locked.

Mod Idea:
India has a constant plague that Indians are immune to. However it is highly destructive to anyone else. It is primarily spread by Indian pops and maybe goods made in the country too. Indian pops that migrate will also be followed by other Indian pops from their home state shortly after.

The game is garbage, pro EU4 player ThePlaymaker exposed how shit the game is on stream. Johan fucked it up AGAIN.

>>2126753
This, like the previous thing, sounds like a big heap of nothing. Plus this guy is a god at EU4 so it isn't surprising that he does well at EU5. A lot of these YouTubers are explicitly looking for every last thing they can exploit and stack to become op. I really hope Paradox doesn't mess up the game just because the situation is realistically easy (the knowledge the player has will never not make them more powerful than anyone historically). I prefer being able to simulate history instead of getting cucked by a bunch of nonsensical limits that had to be put in place because of metafags.

>>2126766
>military hegemon in 1390 already culture converting entire regions of the world
lmao

BlobGODS always win

>>2126766
>guy who plays game says it's shit
>yeah this is nothing
Playmaker is a gigablobber who couldn't have fun if his life depended on it but he did actually have his hands on the game so I'm inclined to to believe him if he says it's an aimless blobfest

>>2126808
Was that the guy complaining that it was super hard to get CB's during the last round of influencer videos? Seems like PDX might have caved and made them easier to get and now they are complaining that they can get CB's.

>>2126521
>genociding all male anthros so the game becomes one big hmofa cyoa story
Dare I say based?