Thread 2139476

Empire Supremacy Edition

>M&B Wiki
https://antifandom.com/mountandblade/wiki/Mount_&_Blade_Wiki

> BANNERLORD
>Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/tAvcAbpT
>Custom Banner Maker
https://bannerlord.party/banner/
>Banner Code Sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MEM-0Fz0yetJ8cZgLrPpHuDU6dO33bhsFiHsiWwiCDM
>Asset Extractor
https://github.com/szszss/TpacTool
>Create Custom Companions
https://butterlord.com/wanderers

> WARBAND
>Warband Pastebin
https://rentry.org/x7u7t
>Noob Guide (READ This) https://imgur.com/a/FMAqV
>Anon's Mods and Upstab Guide: https://pastebin.com/agwZu9Df

>Thread(looted): >>2114626

I am once again requesting a mod to make every single character and unit in the game but me female.

can't believe the last thread OP was an image of a path of exile 2 character that had nothing to do with gay /his/ bullshit and no one said anything

This is Rhodok soil.

>>2139686
SWADIANS GO HOME

I will drink from (You)r skull.

>>2139533
do it yourself

>>2139553
She holds a Blade, that's like half of the game

>>2139533
Character editor doesnt work?

I like the Byzantine aesthetics and i'm not afraid to say it

>>2139888
Empire towns are the best looking in the game by far

ai kino

>>2140012
kek

Does the main quest of the game still railroad you into war with 3 factions?

>>2140107
yes

>>2139887
it takes ages to turn everyone female, and you have to change their names too, and then eventually it causes lategame crashes for some reason.

this is like getting some battanian noble railguns for the first time

>>2140183
Love me rhodok sharpshooters

>>2140175
There's probably some game mechanic that needs a male and they didn't think there would never be even one to choose from in the list

˙poɯ sɯopƃuiʞ ǝǝɹɥʇ ǝɥʇ ɟo ǝɔuɐɯoɹ pooƃ ɐ ʇǝƃ ǝʍ liʇun ɹǝʇsod oɐƆ oɐƆ lɐuiƃiɹo ǝɥʇ ɟo ɹnouoɥ ui ƃuiʇsod sɐʍ oɥʍ ɹǝʇsod ǝɥʇ ɟo ɹnouoɥ ui ƃuiʇsod sɐʍ oɥʍ ɹǝʇsod ǝɥʇ ɟo ɹnouoɥ ui ƃuiʇsod sɐʍ oɥʍ ɹǝʇsod ǝɥʇ ɟo ɹnouoɥ ui oɐƆ oɐƆ ƃuiʇsod ɯ,I

>>2140427
>upright i
you failed. you could've used exclamation marks

>>2139775
Based and truthpilled. I love Derthert, he's often my children's grandfather.

>>2140427
⸮bom ƨɿoiɿɿɒw γɈƨɒnγb ɈɒHɈ Ɉυodɒ ɈɒHw

Has anyone actually tried to fix the mail textures on vanilla armors? How can there be so many mods dumping new models in this game but no one's considered some kind of community visual upgrade mod

>>2140680
talewrold's problem. they need to fix it.

Am I retarded if my favorite way to play is to go Battania and never use archers, just endless javelins? There's something special about playing as a bunch of retarded woodshitters and just wrecking everyone's shit by throwing sticks and stones at them.

>>2141119
nah. you're sovlfvl

Why the fuck are all good companions aserai? I try to find a companion for every role and for formation captains, and my core party looks like a band of refugees.
Scout: of the Wastes
Right side Cav captain: the Golden
Engineer: the Engineer (Aserai)
If I weren't avoiding Merciful companions, my surgeon would've been Aserai too.
Literal doctors and engineers lmao.
Meanwhile Vlandian companions are either merciful or useless

>>2141119
>bunch of retarded woodshitters and just wrecking everyone's shit by throwing sticks and stones at them
110% of Gaelic experience

>>2141154
Vlandia will not survive without mass companion migration, someone's gotta pay for the lords' retirement pensions

>>2141119
I fucking love battanian infantry. Loosing a storm of javs into an approaching horse charge is pure kino. I do use a lot of archers, though.

>>2141281
Javs are severely underrated for defensive engagements in general (especially siege - if you're lucky with spawns and judicious in holding fire, you can make the killfeed look like the castle collapsed on top of the ladders).

>>2141338
100+ jav infantry also fuck up cav charges--though not without significant loss. But worth it just for the sea peoples, barbarian horde vibes.

BOW DOWN TO THE
BOW DOWN TO THE KING

>>2140680
No, not really. The visuals for vanilla armors are butt fuck ugly and often look like fantasy tier larp gear. Its best to just rip out the native stuff entirely and replace it with better armors from a more focused time period.

>>2141343
You can manage that by having the jav infantry just ahead of or behind some polearm infantry (and/or supported by archers to inflict some casualties while the cavalry are outside jav range).

>>2141377
>Its best to just rip out the native stuff entirely and replace it with better armors from a more focused time period.

Never gonna happen, you're gonna have a bunch of little packs of specific armors and variants from periods just as inconsistent as vanilla and all widlly disparate in quality. It's what we already have
>Norman items
>Viking Items
>Rus items
>16th century items
>Roman items
>Tokugawa era items
>Chinese fantasy Qin shit items

Nobody's really interested in doing medieval Celt shit for the Battanians or Byzantine stuff for the empire so those will never get replaced by something better.

>>2139476 (OP)
I am rather new, how do I make money? I need 1000 gold a day to keep my army going which is entirely funded by the fact I won 2, 44k horses in tournys early on

>>2141506
Join a kingdom as a merc, but take care not to get involved in losing battles, you're better off not joining armies most of the time.
Also make sure to keep yourself stocked up on horses that give you the party speed bonus.

>>2141506
Win more tourney horses

>>2141506
become a merchant

>>2141506
you either join a kingdom that has many wars as a mercenary or just downsize your party, hunt bandits and trade until you have a decent amount of cash. horses are profitable.
getting too big too fast is a noob trap.

>>2141506
>walk up to some noble nigga with a similar sized party
>im here to beat your shit up
>receive gear worth hundreds of thousands

>>2141119
I thought best jav infantry are swamp peoples in sturgia?

>>2141644
what are you excited for exactly?
i'm coping that they'll fix

>>2141661
i'm coping that they'll fix the base game*

>>2141554
this became my option
>down 5k
>next tourny is 3 days away
>get there
>horse prize
I beat down my own brother in the final for that sweet 46k

>>2141661
Better economy and trading with ships and river travel, some non-RNG NPC adventurers so we can have some familiar faces along the lines of Jeremus and co. again.

>>2141727
>Better economy
so you're coping like me?
>non-RNG NPC adventurers
confirmed never ever.

this man shows up from a nearby forest and throws a javelin at your 50k horse turning it lame
how do you respond?
he also raided your villages and fucked your wife

>>2141866
I don't have a wife and he was already dead by the time you made this post

>>2141866
>he also raided your villages
That's not a Khergit nojon with 3 warriors strong party though

>start a new run
>power start it with hunting bandits
>merc for nimps
>marry a qt ASAP to not a get a game over
>impregnate Rhaggy with savesCUMming
>also marry Ira
>Rhaggy had a daughter instead of a son
>whatever i'll rape her when we have war with her again
>have lord of duels mod installed so i duel lords almost every time
>this wimp fucker kills me
>good thing i have 2 wives
>the qt wife inherits
>she's weak
>put the heaviest armor on her and fight a group of 15 looters
>dismount to get athletics exp
>manage to kill half before getting downed
>SHE'S KILLED BY FUCKING LOOTERS
i quickly had Ira marry a dude from Pethros, Rhaggy's clan, to keep her imperial purity.
i'll have Ira resign as the clan leader and have the Pethros dude marry a bunch of Vlandian women.
but he's weak...

>>2141941
What rape mod do you use? Looking for one that's organic to normal gameplay

>>2141951
primae noctis

>>2141963
Thanks. Also looking for a mod that makes distance irrelevant when it comes to pregnancies. So basically me and my brother (and any other NPC) can impregnate their wives using vanilla calculations, but without needing to spend time in the same party/settlement.
Currently I'm using Family Control, but that's a 70% flat chance every time you do it, with no regards to age and other things.

>>2138841
The final weekend of /ag/ League 9 is coming up and the /mbg/ divegrass team will be playing in the Round of 32 tomorrow at around 15:40 UTC. I haven't seen any of those schedule images posted since everything is day-to-day at this point but I'll post the stream link about an hour before the match starts.

>>2140183
Guns + no shields really is disgustingly powerful. Though the added expense for a real army of gun troops is pretty insane as well. I'm having to spam mastercrafted spears worth 50k every once in awhile to not go bankrupt. I don't think it's possible to maintain an army of gun troops without some serious happy merchanting.

>Kyushu's samurai troops can become tier 7 gun troops with 270 gun skill
>There's a tier 6 alt path where they drop the gun and pick up a handheld cannon

Still haven't figured out why you'd ever pick that path except to make missing the rider and hitting the horse a guaranteed dismount, but oh well.

>>2142070
>at around 15:40 UTC
Fug, meant 17:40 UTC.

>>2142269
yeah i didnt use the cannons either just saikai marksmen which shit on everything
the main issue is that only 2 ranks of guns can fire even with crouch fire so what you actually want is the hokuriku mounted gunners because mounted gunners can fire even when clumped together
i did not have any bonus cost to gun troops that must have been added recently or does not apply to kyushu clan
i could kill lord parties or small armies to get infinite money from selling their equipment at the point of that screenshot

>>2142392
That's just one party. I have 3 wandering around, so it's more like 2.8k a day.

Bros. Havent played this game in years. Is Bannerlord decent now?

>>2142447
>now
it was fun with mods (pic related) until one of mod niggers updated his framework shit, then it started to crash

>>2142403
the higher tier armors sell for 10-15k each and the game generates a new set for each noble so you can very easily farm some large shit clans like mori who have really bad units and a lot of nobles

>>2142006
idk
>>2142447
>Is Bannerlord decent now?
lmao no

>>2142070
>>2142321
The first match is kicking off so we'll be up in about 30 minutes. The stream is on cytu be/r/agleague.

Does anyone here know the history of the original Mount and Blade? I need your help

I am doing research for a project that involves this game, and I need to know the very first proper playable build of this game. I am using this as a resource.

https://mountandblade.fandom.com/wiki/Mount%26Blade_versions

The way I understand it, the what would become Mount&Blade started out life as "War Rider", or at least that was the first publicly available version of the game. Here is a video on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNFuonuDu-4
Thing is that the game is very incomplete, and obvious beta. Next, the first proper M&B release was version 6.01 in 2005, what I want to know is how complete was this version. I can't find anything on it.

What I am looking for is the first version of the game that was relatively stable and complete. Obviously, the main game released in 2008, it was published and sold in stores, but for my project, I need to know when this game was more or less in what we now know as "Early Access" stage, ie mostly playable and everything that's there is more or less complete but the game itself is still unfinished. If anyone could help me out, it would be appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/op_ctjKZULg

Huscarls gonna use spears

>>2142694
0.808 was when I first played M&B and it was pretty stable by then and the modding scene was already decent.

>>2142709
From what I am seeing, M&B 1.00 looks really rough. I remember when this game came out, but I never really paid attention to it that much, I was actually surprised nobody talks about the original game anymore and just consider Warband expansion to be the actual original game.

Do you remember differences between 1.0 and .808 release? I'm talking map, quests, items ect. was it all more or less there, or were there major features still not there at the time?

>>2142713
Don't remember much, .808 still had Zendar and the river bandits, but no questline to speak of outside of a small tutorial you got from a guy in the city.

>>2142719
Was the map similar to how it looks in 1.0 or did it look more similar to how it was presented in War Rider? Were the other factions present or just the original 2 from WR as well? Do you remember the UI resembling the final product or did it still have Comic Sans text?

>>2142722
Pretty sure it had almost everything the current M&B version does.
The removal of Zendar was the biggest thing that happened, I think the ransom brokers were added sometime between then, with the one special "slave trader" from Zendar moving to Tihr and giving you a flat 50 denars for any troop.

>>2142741
Thanks for your help. I will still ask around, but the way I understand it, considering how incomplete and rough even 1.0 release was, it seems that the early 2005/06 releases were more or less just more primitive M&B classic, so it fits the "Early Access" definition.

Do you remember the modding scene well? How big was it, and do you remember what the earliest mods were like? What I mean is, did modders already start working on the game as far back as .601 or was modding still relatively new as of .808?

Ancient Mesoamerica mod when?

>>2142744
I don't know, as I said I first started playing in .808 and there were quite a few mods out.
>>2142745
This one was one, but it never got updated.

>>2141866
put the horse in my inventory and wait for +3 days so my 4 surgery can magically heal it

Does Bannerlord need more depth in the mechanics it has or more mechanics?

>>2142783
The former

>>2142783
Absolutely more depth. The issue with Bannerlord is that while it objectively did add a ton of things that warband needed, it did such a pathetically lazy and incompetent job at it that half the time its better off just not having those mechanics and using your imagination instead.

>gain relation with a lord
>look them up
>they're not a family leader(like 90% of characters) so they have zero autonomy and their opinion is literally meaningless
Whoever designed this shit should be shot

>>2142795
The opinions of all video game characters are meaningless

>>2142798
don't say that

>>2142783
it really badly needs to make the workshops functional so i can have caravans automatically buy cheap iron from some shithole and haul it to my smith

>>2142783
both

>>2141644
Same here I want to know it so bad COME ON.
Also I feel like the only person on the planet who likes randomly generated companions. I like seeing a whole new set of faces every time I start a new character.

>>2142845
The absolute niggerdry you have to go through for workshops makes me angry. Somehow they made them worse since Warband.

>>2139686
>>2139748
BOHOL MENTIONED?

>>2142582
Match video is available here https://implying.fun/video/agl9/2025-09-11/?t=50:55.0, we'll be playing in the Round of 16 tomorrow as the very first game at 17:00 UTC.

>>2142867
I don't mind them in concept but they have zero roleplaying potential as is. Their canned backstories and traits don't really matter at all because they are interchangeable so if they don't like something you can just go get someone else for the job. They don't have any special interactions like Warbands' had and they don't take advantage of the random generation because the traits themselves don't have enough non-combat effects.

Things they could do for example
>depending on their backstory they gain a crime rating when entering territory owned by the faction or city they come from, have to fight/bribe parties trying to seize your companion or spend influence points, this will guarantee their loyalty
>dickass companions might straight up desert if you are about to enter a battle with terrible odds, or if you have low morale and not enough money, which they will try to steal from
>companions might have quests attached to their backstory you can go and solve to recruit them for free(avenge dead relatives, clear their name with your speechcraft/influence, hunt down their nemesis, restore their household)
>good loyal companions will collect and ransom soldiers from your party that escaped after losing a battle and track you down with them to rejoin your party
>patriotic companions will work for less if you are part of a kingdom or leave you if you join an enemy kingdom
>companions with a beef with a certain lord will try to duel them or incite a battle when meeting them, companions that hate a town will start fights and give you trouble, higher leadership skill will tard wrangle them better

>>2143196
God its ridiculous how little work they put in. It's not like quests are particularly complicated in bannerlord anyway, adding them should be easy as hell.

>>2142867
>I like seeing a whole new set of faces every time I start a new character.
Why? it's literally the same character, just with a different face and name.

would it really kill them to add 1 (ONE) unique unit to each Empire faction in Bonerlord, just to make a little bit distinct
>South (Empress Rhagaea, I totally inherit the crown lol)
Keep the Cataphract, alternatively give them low ammo bow with good accuracy and damage, ditch the lance for that unit (persian variant used bows and maces in our world)
>West (Emperor Garios, the general dude)
Either light skirmisher unit on horse or make giga armored troop unit with limited pilum ammo
alternatively instead of infinite recruitment limit it to small number of units for them to act as designated captains
>North (Lucon Osticos, Senate is mighty! but we don't want to spend coin)
Foot skirmisher with load of javelins and fast speed, has a small shield that auto blocks when they are stationary and hurl javelins, cheap upkeep

>>2143250
Garios being the army man who is mad about the empire screwing over army men should have the legion of the betrayed on his side since that's literally what they're all about. At the very least he should have some kind of Praetorian unit that is stupidly OP but expensive and never seen in significant numbers. As for the north, maybe they could have a mercenary Varangian guard type thing with Sturgians or Nords that reflects how cutthroat the Senate is because they need personal security from foreigners who aren't involved in imperial politics, It'd fit them geographically as well, they could be axe throwers. South could have Cataphract mounted archers, Clibinari or maybe mounted crossbows.

>>2142447
yea if you like vanilla

God i really miss being able to just ask NPC parties if they've seen any bandits lately

>>2143860
Why? It was completely useless.

>>2143865
Because its more than what i have now after 7 ingame days wairing for these bastards to spawn

>>2143870
Have you tried looking at other bandit base spawn locations?

>>2139909
They do look nice, love to walk around in Bannerlord in general.
>>2141866
Looks like one of those arrested amish lads.
>>2143051
Good job so far.
>>2142447
It was always decent, but not perfect.

>>2141436
I think the "EoE flavor pack" or "AD: Dark Ages" does the faction overhaul pretty well. The only issue I have, and its an issue with all Bannerlord armor replacers, is that there aren't any armor LODs, so they are just full detail all the time.
Honestly all I really want is Warband 2 with improvements from Viking Conquest and various mods. Diplomacy Litdum is close enough and I normally just end up playing that instead of Bannerlord.

>>2143051
The stream is about to start then we'll be up. Same link as last time, see >>2142582 if you need it.

halp

>>2144475
delete HD rexture pack or the other one and leave the HD one. can't remember exactly.

>>2144475
cowe

Does anyone knows if WSE2 has working steam achievements?

>>2142783
It's not that there aren't any new mechanics I'd like to see, but it's a lot more important to flesh out, deepen and rebalance the existing mechanics. The game has a lot going on, but half of it is barely worth paying attention to because it's either too shallow or too low-impact.

>>2144475
save the cows

>>2140183
tried playing this mod, but it only crashes on me.

>>2144672
The question enters the realm of semantics as soon as you start to try and figure out what really counts as a mechanic or what really counts as depth. I'd say some of the game mechanics need other mechanics to make them truly work like anything diplomacy related, whole others just need better implementation like recruiting and clan parties.

The better question i think would be, where to even begin? Like what should be the foundation for fixing Bannerlord?

>>2144475
Sacrifice more cows to appease the Sea Gods

>>2144680
it's a (you) issue

>>2144707
>Dragon pass got a sequel

huh, that really slipped past me

>>2144180
The archived video hasn't been uploaded yet so I don't have a link for it yet, but we won yesterday's match and are one of the 8 teams in the final day and we'll play either 1 or 3 games today. /mbg/ plays in the quarterfinal at 17:00 UTC today at the same stream linked in this post >>2142582. If we win, we'll be in the first semifinal match at around 19:40, then either the 3rd place match at 21:00 or the final at 21:40 depending on the result of the semifinal.

On a related note, the /vst/ team has a roster thread open here >>2144515 if you guys have any feedback on the team and want to see players added or removed, or if you'd like to see medal players changed up.

>>2142744
TLD was stuck on 0.808 for a very long time

>>2144680
its weird sometimes it starts crashing for no reason and other times works fine
i did notice that if you browse the unit upgrade trees it almost always crashes

>>2144815
Third place, good job.
That's higher than what /mbg/ won on VGL.

>>2144815
The team finished 3rd with a decisive 3-0 game but the whole tournament run was far better than I had imagined it would have been. As fun as winning the /ag/ League, the winner is banned from all future iterations of the tournament so this means /mbg/ can compete again next year which I'll probably do (with a slight roster shuffle to change up medals and maybe freshen player models). I'll upload the files to the /m&b/ wiki page so they're available to everyone if anyone wants to enter them in another tournament, but I don't think I'll enter them in more than 1 or 2 tournaments a year so you won't hear about this for a while. Once the archived videos are up I'll post the links to today's games for those who want to see how this campaign went from the start.

>>2145155
It was fun seeing how many people remembered the team and liked seeing them play. Thanks for coming

>start new run with my jank ass mod-saturated install just to test stability
>don't even know what mod does it but once i decline doing the training field i immediately gain a dragon banner piece and the entire intro gets skipped
>go bum for bandit killing quests because i haven't done a single bit of combat yet, finally pull a hideout clearing mission
>it's a fucking Hidden Hand base
>use all my money to hire the most OP mercs i can find and as many recruits i can find that i obviously won't be able to pay for later
>enter the base when a party leaves and i'm 24 vs 27
>things go fine because i'm on RBM and combat isn't fucking me over yet and we got plenty of shields and armor up front
>go down halfway due to a cheeky javelin and Nathanos takes over and he's full on fucking murder goblin mode running absurdly fast and killing everyone with ease
>1 enemy left i can't locate and somehow my troops are demoralized and start fleeing the battlefield
>down to 9 people when i finally find and kill the Hidden hand pawn and the final duel cutscene kicks in
>Nathanos is somehow demoralized and fleeing and now i can't fight back because he's cowering with his arms up and has no weapons
>Jackie Chan my way around trying to dodge this giganigga trying to kill me with a giant glaive, lucky the weapons dropped earlier hadn't despawned yet
>reach for another glaive and swing directly at his head and his fucking head comes off in ONE hit, actually yell because i forgot i had dismemberment installed
Nathanos is covered in blood and looking like a psychotic methhead gnome

modding is an adventure.

>>2145180
>>don't even know what mod does it but once i decline doing the training field i immediately gain a dragon banner piece and the entire intro gets skipped
anon thats the game itself

>>2144475
Used to happeen to me If i alt tabbedwjile loading, just dont do that

>>2144667
No. The guy said it's in the pipeline but very low priority.

>>2145180
>actually yell
koofers?

BETA 1.3 DROPPED
>BETA 1.3 DROPPED
BETA 1.3 DROPPED
>BETA 1.3 DROPPED
BETA 1.3 DROPPED
>BETA 1.3 DROPPED

>crouch firing and reloading
>overhauled spear bracing
>movement control over caravans
>trade agreements
oh shit maybe i will be able to finally feed my workshops with caravans LMAO AS IF

>Added a new party type called “Patrol Parties”.
>One patrol party is automatically generated in towns when the “Guard House” settlement project is built
they just added improved garrisons but worse into the game

>>2145676
>>2139476 (OP)
BETA 1.3.0 IS OUT ON STEAM

CHECK CHANGES

>Beta v1.3.0 Patch Notes: https://www.taleworlds.com/en/News/581
>Beta v1.3.0 Modding Patch Notes: https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/e1-6-0-v1-3-0-modding-changes.443896/

>>2145702
Doomers on life support

>Removed traits affecting the skills of the characters, and assigned skill templates to characters instead of removed traits
kek. did anyone even notice this?

>>2145702
>mods le broken again

>>2145702
downloading rite now, maybe I'll post about how it plays tomorrow
>>2145769
stay on le older branch

total slavanon victory

everyone must bow

>>2145870
I am hoping they buff Sturgia significantly
even without Nords they get raped by Vlania, Empire and Khuzaits
I never saw them once gain any significant foothold without losing it instantly

>>2145877
yeah they will get gangraped by four factions now instead of 'only' 3. but the sturgians are now proper slavs, finally

>6 fucking years after release we're getting another string of mod breaking updates that add miniscule improvements that do nothing to fix the major fundamental flaws of the game
Bannerlord is never going to get a warband tier modding community is it?

>>2145870
>>2145880
>write this
>go to youtube
>youtuber has made a video on 1.3
>youtuber refers to raganvad as "ragnar" because his brain still automatically thinks the sturgians are "vikings"
my mind will never know peace on this subject

>>2145886
https://www.moddb.com/mods/paradigm-worlds/news/bannerlords-veni-vidi-but-not-vici
that was known for years

>>2145538
We don't use that word since the epidemic.

>Fixed a bug that caused the stash to disappear in a conquered town.
N I C E
i always thought it was intended to please hardcore players.
desu, lords should use high tier armours in the stash, use the horses and sell the rest.

>>2145700
Improved garrison was way too much autistic busy work but I hope the new patrols are enough to scare bandits.

>>2142795
I like that family relations matter but I still wish we had to influence kingdom votes by building relations with individual lords.
As it is, lords and clans have absolutely no personality that matters in the votes.

>>2145921
like 90% of the work is just setting up the mod settings
if you want to use the template recruitment stuff its more work i guess

>update stuck on 21.2GB/27.3GB
it's over. go on without me, bros.

>>2145702
Never thought I'd live to see the day.

>>2145702
Is it worth it?

>>2145700
So....

They're manhunters?

>Fixed an exploit that allowed players to gain influence by inviting their own clan members to their army without paying cohesion upkeep. Clan members no longer generate influence for the army leader.
nyooooooo

>>2146020
Manhunters were their own independent faction. These are tied to towns and the faction who owns them.

This is cool but I can't help but notice a lack of a release date for War Sails.

>>2145870
>The first Sturgian culture bonus has been changed from “Recruiting and upgrading infantry troops is 25% cheaper.” to “Village grain production is increased by 10%.”

>Disabled army raiding and raid defense features to prevent armies from wasting time on raids and ensure focus on strategic offensive and defensive objectives.
>Armies now ignore enemy parties (not armies) that are weaker than half their strength.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet

>>2145702
B-bros, I think I'm gonna make it.

This is gonna be jank as fuck but it's better than what we had before

>Removed female-specific movement animations; all characters now use the same movement set.
very progressive of taleworlds

>>2146052
I love everything about that desu. I think slings are neat and, if nothing else, extremely unique. I think the moral change is great and will hopefully cut down on my 150 troop armoes' fians getting offed by 27 bandits.

Oh wow they added slings and stealth? Anyone tried them yet?

>>2146052
>looters get slings
early game just got a lot harder

I rememer being real mad at a change in troop composition/squad phase of the pre-battle in a big patch ages ago.
Did they ever improve on it or is the system still based on those retarded uncontrollable sliders?

I haven't kept up with bannerlord in like a year and a half, but reading the patchnotes this seems like a really beefy updates, what made the turks start working again?

>>2146073
how are looters fucking real, nigga? like, just get a shield, nigga

>>2146068
the features they added
>slings + sling ammo types
>stealth(but only for hideouts and prison breakouts)
>stealth rating for armors and weapons
>backstabbing animations for stealth kills
>disguise system when infiltrating settlements, sneaking around to find a contact before prison breaks
>random events system
>morale and retreats to simulated battles
>deserters
>town patrols
>alliances between factions
>trade agreements
>parlay system
>wood planks and felt added as workshop produce and trade items
>daylight hideout raids
>caravans can be made to visit specific towns or avoid faction towns
>removed nord-inspired gear from sturgians, added 4 new armors 4 new shields instead, changed their bonuses
>can now get notables to support you by doing their quests and paying themto give you steady influence increase

>>2146075
not as of 1.2.12
idk if 1.3 changes things but i doubt it.
there is a mod that restores the original system.
>>2146081
complaints

any mods to make bannerlord a better roleplaying experience

>>2146081
Lots of these were features that Taleworlds developed for a Story DLC they eventually scrapped. They decided to add these alongside the new version of the game that would accompany War Sails.

>>2146087
kind of but systems need to be overhauled like the current patch to make things better.
primae noctis is the best.
there is small talk and Adventurer or whatever its called. Nemesis is great as well.
there is a mod that individualises relations but i can't remember its name.
lord of duels to duel mid-battle.

>>2146042
I've had it. I'm giving the Sturgs back their snow movement speed bonus.

>>2146085
most importantly you can just delegate the bandit hideouts

>>2146008
>stuck at 79% again
it's truly over

Can someone post pics of the new armors

>>2145702
They fixed... everything... all of it...
I hate that they added more tedium to hideouts

>>2146068
yeah years before this patch
Eagle Rising had slings
Fourberie mod had jailbreak, political blackmail, assassination, bandit alliance and unrest formation
amazing how many "ideas from mods" make it here

>>2145700
That's nice.
>>2145870
>removed round shields
That's kind of stupid, for the time period sturgians are based on, round shields make sense.
>>2145886
I mean, it's a problem for gaming in general. Everything, even SP games, have this live service model. But it's also a problem of modders being faggots and only wanting to mod games when they are a hot new thing, instead of waiting.

>steals mod ideas, implements them into the game
>cattle praises this
Bravo Türk Todd

>>2146051
A women!

>>2146184
>mod idea
That's just the original prison break from the last game

>>2146184
stop exposing your newfaggotry
and yes, the less mods i add for basic functionality the better.

>>2146250
>hurr durr just give me bare minimum slop
that mod alone adds more than shitty update and it's not even funny
>but warband
bare ass minimum just the same

>>2146253
>mod adds more stuff than the base game
shocking

>>2146184
Mods cover a very wide range of ideas, much faster than the actual game devs could match. The difference is quality of implementation.

/mbg/ consensus on the update?

>>2146284
>consensus
You're the only person here

>>2146284
patch notes read very nice but they're not enough. still, it's a stride in the right direction.

>>2141581
I do the 50-60 man T3-6 running 2-3 caravans and steadily get 1-2k profit on the ticks.

>>2146176
>it's also a problem of modders being faggots and only wanting to mod games when they are a hot new thing, instead of waiting.
Thats not the issue at all, why bother starting huge difficult mods when theyre going to get completely broken every month?

>scrambled captains when joining battles is still in 1.3
kek

>>2146087
>Complex Characters
>Alive Scenes
>Less Menus - More Immersion
>Immersive Battlefields
>Reinforcement System

>>2146359
Also:
>True Relations
>True Noble Opinion

>>2146360
>>True Relations
>>True Noble Opinion
what's the difference? the description is the same but they link to each other.

>>2146363
True Noble Opinion does the same thing as the fix from the mod Nemesis. It separates the opinion of Regular Clan Members about you from the opinion of the Clan Leader. Normally your relationship witha lord would be one and the same with your relationship with their clan leader, like >>2142795 complains about. This makes it so that all lord in the same clan have their own individual relations stat.

True Relations simply gives you more changes for your relationship with certain NPCs to lower or rise.

>>2146372
thanks

I like the new Main Menu Backgrounds.

>>2146386
>Lucon
a-are nimps the true imps like anon argued all those years ago?

>>2139686
When i was a kid i was insanely disaapointed when it turned they werent actually made of chocolate or were abundant in Cacao beans :/

Third new outfit category.
You now have Battle Outfit (Center), Civilian Outfit (Left) and Stealth Outfit (Right).

>>2139888
The empire is the best. Gimme a hug bro.

>>2146413
what about weapons, what's the heaviest you can equip (any shields?)
any ranged javelins or slings?

>>2139775
Doomerhurt

>>2142783
Im no game dev but imo when it comes to gamed "playing tall" is always the way to go, refine the foundations and what's already there so you can add more floors without it collapsing.

>>2146418
In a sec.

Victory/Defeat Screen now shows the Morale of armies, since it seems from the notes that it will be more important now.

>>2143196
Man companions with in depth and dynamic yet randomly generated quests and interactions would be so kino.

>>2143250
Unironically i also wish they gave their troops different aesthetics, Eastern armies look more like 10th century eastern roman troops while western armies look either somewhat similar to the Vlandians mixed with Western Roman or even Carolingian troops. Unironically im pretty sure the last time i played i'd always see each having shit like vlandian knights and khergits in their ranks so that did add immersion.

>>2146423
>>2146413
Armor selection for Stealth outfit seems to be much more restricted than that of Civilian Outfits, but is less restrictive when it comes to ranged weapons.
>No Two-Handed Weapons/Polearms with stealth outfits apparently.
>No Shields
>Can bring Light Ranged weapons, such as Slings, Throwing Knives, and basic Crossbows and Bows.

>>2146428
I think Stealth Outfit selectio might need a retouch, since it seems it's a bit too restrictive with the stuff you can bring.

>>2146139
>stuck at 79% yet again
>corrupt download
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>2145870
So theyre just slavs now, kinda sad honestly.

>>2146063
I found out this art comes from some erotic book series :/

>>2146432
Encyclopedia now displays all NPC's Skills, plus a crown icon when a Faction Ruler is displayed, and a number indicated how many other NPCs are not being displayed on their Friends/Enemies/Family listings.

>>2146446
Mountain Bandits color change.

>>2146447
One of the new Patrols.

>>2146451
First Deserters I find. Clearly from defeated Battanian Lord.

>>2146453
They don't seem to behave any differently than regular Bandits, but I'm sure beating them early game will be a good source of quality equipment to wear and sell.

>>2146458
Got my low level ass kicked instantly, so see how the Morale rises and lowers dynamically as the battle unfolds.

>>2146460
POST-BATTLE EVENT!

Each option changes your Character Traits, differently, plus other effects, so this will be great for Roleplaying I'm sure.

>>2146467
The one issue with this right now is that I actually don't have a single troop in my Party besides my own character.
Not sure if this event could repeat itself, or if its a one-time thing.

I'm getting an itch to mountain blade for the first time in years. I was thinking about just sticking with Warband, but maybe Bannerlord is the better game these days?
Also is Floris the best vanilla+ modpack or is something else recommended? I thought about trying PoP but I'm shit at the game and apparently PoP is very difficult.

>>2146469
Reminds me of schizo knight events from Battle Brothers

>>2146464
Finally a menu with some soul

>>2146470
>Also is Floris the best vanilla+ modpack
Fuck no.
>is something else recommended?
Dickplomacy or Diplomacy Litdum
>I thought about trying PoP but I'm shit at the game and apparently PoP is very difficult.
It's grindy tedious bullshit that tries to force you to play the specific way the dev wants.

>>2146469
Retried the battle and got a different Event.

>>2146470
I don't really like going back to Warband anymore because the moevement is just worse. The first time you are outnumbered and have to fight an AI paintrain (which you probably can't even outrun) just reminds me that Bannerlord has Athletics.
That said the mod selection is still obviously superior in Warband

>>2146480
Also, this event appeared despite no one dying in my party (there's only me).
It seems they need to add more flags to the events so they're less Random.

>>2146476
>Diplomacy Litdum
This seems like the kind of thing I'm looking for, thanks.

>>2146479
Is the game as a whole pretty polished now? I never played it on release because it seemed like there were a lot of issues, so the lack of mods wouldn't really matter to me if the base game is in a good spot.

>>2146489
beta 1.3 just dropped and it seems really nice but you can be almost sure it's buggy.
you either wait for warsails to drop so the main bugfixed 1.3 is dropped or play 1.2.12 with tons of mods.
i think you should play warband as a farewell as long as you can stomach it.

>>2146489
It still feels like a mix between an Alpha and Beta test, but more like a pre-release Open Beta than a "Western Erotic Game on Patreon foreverially milking retarded coomers" beta.
Hope this description helps

>>2146503
>>2146504
Guess I'll stick with Warband for now then. Thanks fellas.

>>2146423
is the leadership skill that makes all tier 3+ units immune to morale routing still in the game?
seems completely retarded to do all this just to let it get ignored completely

>>2146520
It's still there. However, Morale is also far more important during Battle Simulations.
Basically, a Tier3+ Troop might not retreat during a Played Battle/Simulated Round if their Morale is low, but it still will determine on the behaviour of parties during Simulations.

>>2146427
I've thought about doing that to Vlandia to add some proto-Swadian domains in the north and proto-Rhodok domains in the south with minor variations in equipment for units recruited there. You could easily do the same for other non-empire factions (Persian, Arab, and North African flavors for the Aserai; Baltic, Russian, and Finnic flavor for the Sturgians; Iberian and Celtic flavor for the Battanians; Turkic, Persian, or Mongol flavor for the Khuzaits). It's little things like this that would help make the world feel more alive.

where were you when bannerlord was saved

>>2146551
Is there a way to tie the spawning of certain unique troops/Troop trees to specific locations? So that for example, You can have a special unit called 'Lageta Bowman' appear exclusively on Lageta, even if it's culture is Imperial just like every other generic Imperial troop?

The Silverstag mod for Warband did something similar.

>>2146464
I can see this becoming a thing

>>2146480
The Stealth/Suspicion system.
You can see the white tag indicating whether an enemy is alerted or not, simialr to Assassin Creed games.

>>2146613
Goes to yellow then they've noticed odd activity.

>>2146614
Goes back down once they stop noticing stuff.

>>2146616
Seems to have new 'Alert/Searching' Animations.

>>2146618
managed to get this close in the Hideout/Stealth tutorial..

>>2146619
(This is 'Veteran' Stealth Difficulty, BTW)

It seems pretty forgiving. Wondering if certain troops have more or less skill detecting enemies.

>>2146621
It might be easier since it's the tutorial.

>>2146626
Sorry, this is the actual Stealth Tutorial. The otherone was just the Hideout attack, but it of coursse now has the Stealth mechanic.

It seems pretty tacked on, and it's only there on the Campaign, not on Sandbox. Basically, after you defeat Rhadagos, the Headsman of the nearby village is captured by Raiders and you have to sneak into the village and rescue him.

>>2146634
Oh, whoops. Gotta go to work.

Gonna keep showcasing 1.3 later.

>>2146614
>>2146616
>noooticing meter

the symbols are a little obtrusive, i hope someone mods something else like the Skyrim eye on it, whatever has less bright colors and solid opaque shapes

will /ourguy/ make a review of 1.3?
he was extremely disappointed when 1.0 released.

>>2146703
fuck your guy. your guy doesnt know shit. get ur own damn opinion.

>>2139476 (OP)
>finish the main story of Viking Conquest
>official ending is that after gutting that absolute cunt Sven you vanish from the earth, seemingly never to be heard from again while your companions all go their separate ways
>left with the question of if I want to continue my story campaign and do something or start a new sandbox
Surprisingly fun all considered, though it has no moments that really feel like the right time to take a breather to expand your army, acquire better equipment or make spare cash. Orm's Lorica is absolutely fucking busted as an aside. And why is the default option a pagan Anglo-Saxon?

>>2141119
VC made me /javelin/pilled tbqh, two large bags and you can huck a half-dozen high damage projectiles to one-hit kill most enemies with little issue. Two horseman javelin bags was just stupid.

>>2146714
>get ur own damn opinion
the game gets stuck at 79% each time i try to download it. i'm too reluctant to wipe everhthing.
deleting everything but steamapps doesn't work.

>>2146721
Did you try verifying game files?

>Turks lowered loot
THEY LISTENED!

>>2146819
Haven't played it yet, do deserters drop reasonable loot?
Or is it some shit where you take down 10 cataphract deserters and they drop a wooden shield?

>>2146737
yes.
>deleted download cache
>did that weird command -clearbeta -console
>checked disk
>checked firewall
>verified library folder
>launched steam as adminstrator
>deleted download folder
>changed server download region
>uninstalled bannerlord, manually deleted all the remaining files and mods and reinstalled
i found someone who faced the same issue 2 months ago on reddit and had to get the game files from his friend then validating them instead of installing through steam so i might have to wait until 1.3 is up on a pirating site and just torrent it.
the steam forum has similar issues. they say it always happens around sales.

>>2146184
as opposed to not implementing mods and not putting basic ass things in the game people want? yeah okay retard.

>>2146638
I feel like I'm playing Assassins Creed again but without all the bullshit magic they've added in latest releases.
The Stealth system seems pretty basic, but it does its work well. However, I do think they should expand on Stealth equipment options, and maybe add some special gear that'd specifically better for stealth.

>>2146886
uninstalling and deleting the game files and downloading folder twice solved the issue.
i managed to install the non-beta 1.2.12 version.
currently backing it up before trying to opt into 1.3 beta

>>2146846
i haven't played either. i've only been reading the forum and it seems pretty buggy.
>I have noticed change in the loot also. But i do get armor and weapons from battle. But have only done one hideout just for trying the new function.
>The loot is actually so poor now i am on level 15, just reach tiear 1 and have like 30k and i am still running around in cities looking for the swift wanderer. Before i had like 300k from only loot so i think it´s an upgrade.

hold up, if they added kite shields to the Sturgians to replace their round shields, those same round shields will go to Nords right? So in the end they actually expanded Sturgians by cutting the Nords off them like a cojointed twin?

>>2146944
yes

>>2145900
>from total overhaul perspective: C++ is a must. Or C+ or whatever Bannerlords uses. I don't care. I tried it, and like many Warband-Python modder - I don't like it. It is very complex, its 'grammar' is hard to use - for a selflearned modder like me. Is it learn-able? Yes it is, but I need some coding courses first.

Wow the jokes write themselves

>>2146974
elaborate for non-coding plebs such as myself

>>2146975
not that anon and i'm the farthest possible thing to a coder but i have it understood via cultural osmosis that C++ is babby's first language and only used for some very straightforward tasks

>>2146895
you usually mention it instead of plagiarizing it, autismo

>>2146988
No. It's the exact opposite. Python is a high level abstracted language that's friendly to people with no knowledge. It's seen as a good tool for people who have no prior programming experience like scientists needing to write a program to work on their data.
It has its place for quick programs, prototypes, mockups, scripts, interfacing with another language with an API, etc.

It's funny that he's getting filtered, and from what I gathered it's not even c or cpp that bannerlord is using. It's c sharp, I don't know how the fuck you can't even figure out what language you're writing in. If he's struggling with C# he'd blow his brains out with C.

Complaining about the grammar when Python uses white space as syntax and a bunch of other silly shit like being dynamically typed. C was designed to be as as succinct as possible and explicit with what's going on. Sometimes that's to it's detriment, when someone writes code trying to be fancy.

To me it's an odd thing to complain about grammar with how historic and prolofic of a language C is, and the influence it's had on other languages. I haven't ever touched c#, so I can't really comment on that specifically, but it sounds like he just can't into computers and is making weak ass excuses.

>>2146988
>i have it understood via cultural osmosis that C++ is babby's first language and only used for some very straightforward tasks
holy fucking shit why do zoomers keep yapping about shit they have ZERO clue about?

>>2146554
Silverstag is still the single best Warband mod btw

>>2147040
>my personal favourite warband mod is the best warband mod ever

>>2147172
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?

>>2146908
Oh, forgot the new stuff.
New Armor pieces:
>Blackened Hood
>Blackened Cape (More like a pair of shoulderpads, it has no actual cape).
>Blackened Armor
>Blackened Boots
No Arm Armor equivalent added. This set sports the best Stealth Stats for the new Stealth feature by a long shot.

>>2147235
Also:

>Druzhinnik Kite Shield
A reflective metal shield that also displays heraldry.

>>2147239
>Reinforced Leaf-Point Kite Shield

>>2147240
>Leaf-Point Kite Shield

>>2147241
Those three are for Sturgia's new Kievanized look.
And for Vlandia, we have the
>Angular Kite Shield

>>2147239
That's just a shiny legionary kite shield without the metal shit in the middle

>>2147246
They also added 6 new scabbards for pre-existing swords, but I'm not sure which one are they.

>>2147256
If you mean the Reinforced Oken Kite Shield, its a bit different from them, including the back of the shields.
All of the three new wooden shields share a new wooden texture in the back, while the Druzhinnik shield is fully metal.

>>2147246
this one looks very nice

>>2147267
No, I actually meant the shield the top tier imperial crossbowmen use.

>>2147273
Anon, I'm not gonna lie to you, the vanilla Imperial Sergeant Crossbowman uses two different kinds of shields.
One's the Reinforced Kite Shield, which is visually identical to the Legionary's Reinforced Oaken Kite Shield except it has worse stats, and the Kite Shield (pictured) which is a Leather-covered shield that looks nothing like the Druzhinnik one.

>>2147280
Well, shit, but I'm still 100% sure there's a shield that looks exactly like >>2147239 but with actual crossed metal strips instead of the outline you see in the image

>>2147235
I will be entirely honest, I hate TW's new found art direction and design choices when it comes to armor. It looks like low budget Hollywood trash.

Bannerlord should've had a fifth Weapon Slot.

Too many weapons? Just make weight actually matter for something in the game, since it pretty much does nothing now.

>>2146924
>beta 1.3 gets stuck at the same position every single time
>look up what's wrong with steam more thoroughly
>windows 7 is finally ded
>they rolled a new feature
>something about compression for people with gigabit internet speeds and it just doesn't work on windows 7 maybe because the client is old idk i didn't understand
>all hope is lost
>continue reading the thread while dreading all the work i'll have to do to upgrade that i've been procrastinating for years
>enter lifesaver
>there is a software that adds compatibly and through coding magic, allows steam to run on windows 7
>https://github.com/YuZhouRen86/VxKex-NEXT/releases


>[valve tagged poster]: To explain further, we recently enabled a new compression algorithm which is vastly better-performing, and will enable faster downloads with much lower CPU load on clients. It will also improve unlock times for preloads for users on SSD (for spinning disks, the disk writes are the bottleneck). This was good just to save CPU load but it is also necessary for the faster (> 1Gbps) internet speeds people have in some places now, and it also really improves the experience on the Steam Deck.
>New content coming in to Steam is now being compressed with this algorithm; existing content will not be converted. So if you're on an old client version for any of the reasons discussed here, there will still be many games in the catalog you can download and play (so long as they are not being updated, or if you can pin them to a particular build using branches supplied by the developer). Unfortunately we can't support having the data in both formats for new content.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/3238670/discussions/0/594022859095939680/?ctp=2

>>2147403
i hate the upgrade. steam takes 10-15 seconds to launch instead of the usual 2-3. and i can't find settings to make it kaunch faster since the gpu acceleration and the other one are turned off.

the game refuses to be launched through steam but the exe works fine.
warband too won't launch through steam but the exe works fine.
fuck steam.

>>2147392
i don't think a 5th weapon on you would be that useful seeing as scrolling through your slots would become very cumbersome and i don't want shit like a radial menu for weapons, however i think having horses have their own inventory would be pretty nice because a lot of those weapons would only be used on horseback anyway.

>>2147416
now i've done it.
i tried launching bannerlord without steam and now vxkex-next won't work on steam anymore even after reinstalling it.
i have access to the game since steam downgraded to the windows 7 version when i disabled vxkex but i won't be able to update anymore.
i guess i'll use the GoG version from now on.
piratechads just keep winning.
i'm too exhausted to play and a silent update will fuck up my set up. go on without me, bros

>>2147172
Silverstag is the most unique Vanilla+ Warband mod, in my opinion and as far as I can remember.

Surprisingly easy to mod the troops yourself btw which you wouldn't expect considering the completely overhauled troop recruitment system, which I ended up doing a lot and spending multiple days rebalancing the entire troop trees for the mod author.

He was intending to replace the troop trees with my overhauled troop trees, he even credited me at some point on the old forums. But I think he just got tired of upkeeping the mod and just dropped it shortly before a major anticipated patch.

>>2147463
it seems there is a workaround through steamCMD but it has to be installed on a different drive and my second drive is already almost out of space.
piracy is the way to go.

>>2146999
as the consumer, i do not care. as long as its in the game, they could steal plagerize whatever, its in thats the only thing that matters.

With regards to modded Troop Trees:

>Do you prefer long troop trees with many upgrades or short ones with lesser ones?
>Diverse trees where there's many upgrade paths, or much more linear ones?
>Should Factions have a balanced range of troops of different qualities to showcase faction specialization, or much more specialized troops and an overall lack of diversity to make them more unique?
>What about number of troop trees themselves? Do you prefer the single troop tree per faction of Warband or the distinction between Noble and Regular troops from Bannerlord?
>What about adding even more troop trees beyond those to factions, or to recruitable units in Taverns?

>>2147649
>>Do you prefer long troop trees with many upgrades or short ones with lesser ones?
Long troop trees with many upgrades
>>Diverse trees where there's many upgrade paths, or much more linear ones?
Diverse trees with many upgrade paths
>>Should Factions have a balanced range of troops of different qualities to showcase faction specialization, or much more specialized troops and an overall lack of diversity to make them more unique?
Balanced of different qualities to showcase faction specialization. A state would not continue existing unless it was adaptable to a certain degree. Everyone would field infantry, cavalry and ranged infantry. But they would have martial traditions allowing them to excel in some niche.
>>What about number of troop trees themselves? Do you prefer the single troop tree per faction of Warband or the distinction between Noble and Regular troops from Bannerlord?
Distinction between levies, professional and noble troop trees make sense.
>>What about adding even more troop trees beyond those to factions, or to recruitable units in Taverns?
Mercenary troop trees make a lot of sense, as well as troop trees for unique orders. Like knightly orders or religious orders.

>>2147649
>Do you prefer long troop trees with many upgrades or short ones with lesser ones?
Long ones, absurdly long ones if its a fantasy mod, if my dudes survive 100+ battles with me theyre entitled to get a little op
>Diverse trees where there's many upgrade paths, or much more linear ones?
In warband I want a few branches early on and then linear, I don't want to be wondering wtf everything means when theres a million options. In bannerlord I can just look up the whole troop tree with one click so it doesnt matter much there. Some mods do go overboard with it though, "crossbow vs bow" is a reasonable branching option, "different types of javelin" is not and is just bloat.
>Should Factions have a balanced range of troops of different qualities to showcase faction specialization, or much more specialized troops and an overall lack of diversity to make them more unique?
I think they should generally have an option for everything but for the sake of uniqueness one option should be obviously better, and some can be objectively inferior to other faction troops in the same role.
>What about number of troop trees themselves? Do you prefer the single troop tree per faction of Warband or the distinction between Noble and Regular troops from Bannerlord?
I like more troop trees, it means theres more motivation to get good relations with nobles.
>What about adding even more troop trees beyond those to factions, or to recruitable units in Taverns?
Great way to add extra flavor

Desperately need a pre columbian americas bannerlord mod, could play it loose with the timeline and have Aztecs, Inca, Apache, Tlingit, Mississipi valley, Teotihuacan, Calakmul and Palenque, all at the same time.

Seems like a pipe dream though I think Taleworlds just killed 90% of people's motivation to make overhaul mods once again

>>2147671
I once had a dream of a Great Plains expansion set in the 1840s just before the Mexican American war.
>Band of USA territory in the East
>Band Mexican territory in the South
>A dozen tribes in between
>Texas

>>2147717
I've literally dreamed about playing as mayans in bannerlord like 3 times now I dont know why, I never have video game dreams

>>2147649
>>Do you prefer long troop trees with many upgrades or short ones with lesser ones?
Long tree with many upgrades
>>Diverse trees where there's many upgrade paths, or much more linear ones?
Diverse tree with many paths
>>Should Factions have a balanced range of troops of different qualities to showcase faction specialization, or much more specialized troops and an overall lack of diversity to make them more unique?
I'm kind of in between on that - there should be some missing or subpar sections of each tree (eg Nords/Rhodoks not getting cav at all, or Khergits having very lackluster foot troops), but broadly speaking each faction should be able to fill the major roles without requiring mercs/other faction's troops.
>>What about number of troop trees themselves? Do you prefer the single troop tree per faction of Warband or the distinction between Noble and Regular troops from Bannerlord?
Single trees a la Warband. I can see what they were going for with Noble trees, but I prefer being able to raise troops organically rather than scouring the entire length and breadth of a kingdom to get exactly one (1) Noble troop.
>>What about adding even more troop trees beyond those to factions, or to recruitable units in Taverns?
Eh. Those tend to be too inconsistently available to really feel good to use. If they had dedicated outposts where they could be recruited outside of taverns, I'd be more OK with that.

Do we know what "Expanded Modding Capabilities" means?

>>2147745
Check: >>2145702 for the Modding Patch Notes to see what they changed/Improved.

thoughts?

>>2147788
>white background for text

>>2147788
It's probably a way to fuck around with weapon physics in an extremely fun way. I'm reminded of that terrifying metal whip from India so maybe they are just testing to see how feasible wacky flailing inflatable arm flailing weapons are to implement.

>>2147463
i have 2 steam installs with separate game folder
one for win 7 with no vxlex, other updated to win10 with vxkex, i use the win10 to update games
it work

>people complaining about the loot nerf on the forum
let's hope taleworlds won't cuck and actually go through with fixing the economy. some people are pushing back against the complainers.

>>2147649
>Do you prefer long troop trees with many upgrades or short ones with lesser ones?

Long enough that an army can be big and low tier, or small and high tier, and have contested battles anyway. My ideal is 7 tiers with the first 3 being low, 4 and 5 being well trained regular and 6 and 7 being elites.

>Diverse trees where there's many upgrade paths, or much more linear ones?

Linear at the start and branching at the middle, i want soldiers to either be specialist troops from the moment i recruit them or have the option to train my already existing mass of mid troops to adapt to a role according to what i need. If they split too early i have to keep them low tier, if they split too late those are too big of an investment to specialize. Besides, from an immersion point of view, getting recruits up to a certain skill level would be more of an universal basic training type of regime.

>Should Factions have a balanced range of troops of different qualities to showcase faction specialization, or much more specialized troops and an overall lack of diversity to make them more unique?

Balanced troops as regulars and militias with specialist branches for nobles and odd faction specific ones. Literally no faction should lack a basic bitch spear and shield footman.

>What about number of troop trees themselves? Do you prefer the single troop tree per faction of Warband or the distinction between Noble and Regular troops from Bannerlord?

More than two, no more than four. I think troop trees should never make having a kind of troop you REALLY need annoyingly difficult, i never liked how you need to find the villages that raise horses to get cavalry recruits. I'd rather the division be more of a reflection of a factions' social structure ie a peasant militia tree, a general soldier class and a noble tree.

>What about adding even more troop trees beyond those to factions, or to recruitable units in Taverns?

Should always have more of them but also minor factions.

>>2147753
thanks

>you can see at night
you can see at night
>you can see at night
you can see at night
>you can see at night
you can see at night
>you can see at night
you can see at night
>you can see at night
you can see at night

i've been looking at streams and you rarely even get shitty equipment.
maybe taleworlds should keep the equipment loot but lower equipment prices significantly so players can equip themselves while keeping the economy from being loot based.

Well, I suppose it's a Beta.

>>2147836
My preference would be for plenty of loot gear drop, but for all of these loot to have Cracked/Ruined/Ragged modifiers to lower its value and strength.
Loot is also way too pricy, specially since most of the time you'll only find a single piece of equipment of the same time in a city, increasing its price.

>>2147649
>Do you prefer long troop trees with many upgrades or short ones with lesser ones?
>Diverse trees where there's many upgrade paths, or much more linear ones?
many upgrades and many paths
>Should Factions have a balanced range of troops of different qualities to showcase faction specialization, or much more specialized troops and an overall lack of diversity to make them more unique?
factions should have a baseline unit of most types avalaible and extremely elite units for whatever they specialize in (crossbow faction does not need archers but their crossbows are far better than everyone else for example)
>What about number of troop trees themselves? Do you prefer the single troop tree per faction of Warband or the distinction between Noble and Regular troops from Bannerlord?
1 tree but the elite/noble side should have some prerequisites or large cost to upgrade into so you are incentivized to keep your peasants as lower tier meatshields but also dont have to do laps over the map to get 5 noble units
>What about adding even more troop trees beyond those to factions, or to recruitable units in Taverns?
special troop trees and recruitable mercenaries are good they should also have ways to get larger quantities of mercenaries

>>2146988
>>2146974
peak midwit

>>2147810
>>2147788
There's more types of flail than the meme one handed ones, they could be the polearm variant for peasant units

>>2147902
Actually now that i think about it, it could be a stealth weapon since flails can just be threaded up while being "tool-like" like a kusarigama.

>>2147172
>>2147186
Actually Chronicles of Might and Magic is the best Warband mod, it is known

>>2148019
It gets carried hard by it's Magic system. There's little reason to play it unless you're doing a Wizard/Lich playthrough.

>>2148056
No

>>2147649
Each faction should not have more than 3 trees and 5 tiers on average, anything more gets to be clutter
Native warband had it about perfect
>>2147788
Post the entire item

>>2146314
That was my point, you should start modding when game stops getting updates.
Admittedly, these updates drag on for far too many years.

>>2148148
that pic is from the forum. they said reddit has a video.
i'm waiting for the first patch before updating the game.

Now that
>Diplomacy
and
>Boats
are in, what else does Bannerlord need?

>>2148185
Elephants

>>2148188
Let's get those retarded elephants from floris where they're basically horses with high charge damage.

>>2148193
You just described every mount in every warband mod.

>>2148185
>lord interactions
>dueling lords
>dueling lords in battles
>feasts
>voting while grouped in a feast only
>ability to change lords votes during the vote feast by talking to them and using traits, charm, money and influence
>influence being a percent instead of currency so every time you pay influence other lords get more influence so you have to be on your toes all the time
>non-RNGfest courtship
>clan tier being just a representation of renown instead of having shit depend on it
>renown decay
>incremental party size increase with renown
>individualized relations with lords
>second tier of feudalism with the clan stuff; the king grants a fief to a clan and the clan leader grants extra fiefs to clan members
>intrigue with clan members of other clans to have them kill the clan leader and inherit the clan leadership or just depose him. intrigue with fellow clan members being the same
>the player being able to joining clans instead of having his own clan
>in-kingdom wars; in-clan wars and inter-clan wars in addition to civil wars
>>2148193
>>2148188
there were elephants in the files and there was a copyrights shenanigans about them.

>>2148213
>there were elephants in the files and there was a copyrights shenanigans about them.
No such thing, taleworlds just claimed it was a dev's pet project and removed the model.

>>2148218
>Greetings,

>For game development companies, it is standard to do R&D as part of the regular processes. This is done for the base product as well as potential future additions. The work might or might not be released to an end-user. This is why it's usually only announced when it's largely ready - to avoid false expectations.

>The model accidentally released was something being tried by a team member who had no remaining tasks and pretty much the entire Bannerlord team is busy working on early access features.

>Any assets created by Taleworlds are, of course, protected under copyright law and they cannot be released as part of mods unless prior permission is obtained.

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/elephant-dlc.443903/post-9708365

>>2148219
That's not "copyright shenanigans" that's just them saying it was an accidental release, do not steal.

>>2148222
>do not steal.
so copyright shenanigans?

>>2148223
How is it shenanigans if fucking nothing has happened?

>>2148224
>shenanigans
>secret or dishonest activities, usually of a complicated type
>silly behaviour that is usually not very serious or harmful
idk. trying to cover it up and scrub it feels secrety and dishonesty

>>2147867
Sorry you couldn't figure out Java Microsoft edition bro. I'm sure Rajeesh at Durgasoft can help you out, if you fly out to Bombay.

Maybe consider staying there too.

>>2148226
Ah yes, they covered it up by addressing the allegations and saying they were not planning on releasing said model.
The only shenanigan in the situation was everybody dogpiling them for daring to make an elephant model while the game wasn't finished.

>>2148228
idk. going full on SHUT IT DOWN feels like a coverup

>>2148231
They had to do it because of the massive backlash they got from the community for it.

>>2148237
anyway, elephants are a real possibility and not hopes and dreams.

>>2148268
No it's not. I killed them. All of them.

>>2148185
Just make every pointless skill actually do something in the actual game instead of abstractions and dice rolls.

>scouting
Turn it into a general outdoors journeying skill. Have parts of the map be impassable without high enough scouting, like hills and forests or deep desert and tundra wastes. Higher scouting should reduce your food consumption and even allow you to forage the land for food so you can endure for long periods of time.

>tactics
The higher the tactics the larger the deployment area for your troops gets in pre battle. Unlock ability to queue orders on an RTS style ovethead map.

>roguery
Sneaking mostly solved this but it should also involve concealing your party in the field to ambush enemies, winning as a numerically inferior force by defeating them piece meal and stealing loot from them unnoticed. Hiding in forests and hills.

>leadership
Bickering from party members and companions that bring up issues according to their traits, culture or the overall morale that you need to solve. New events system might solve this.

>engineering
Now allows for battlefield engineering. Armies can, if they have enough materials like wood planks and tools, build things ranging from wooden stakes, barricades, ditches and small artillery pieces to full on forts in the field. They may also build things like bridges to cross rivers anywhere and repair looted villages.

>smithing
All weapons and armor gain a negative modifier from use over time unless you're periodically repairing them and maintaining them. Smithing is less about pumping out dogshit hatchets and daggers to grind until you can make a giant paddle with spikes to exploit the game physics and more about being frugal repairing and flipping shit loot at a profit and keeping your and your party's gear in good condition, even improving it for a range of bonuses.

>>2148371
Ambushes sound fun, I think the freelancer sperg already made a mod for it, but didn't release it.

>>2147788
>>2147810
>>2147906
>>2148148
https://www.reddit.com/r/mountandblade/s/jM920167GN

Don't @ me about >R*ddit.
I don't know why this wasnt in the patch notes for 1.3.0, and I'm at work rn, so I can't make my own webms.>>2148075

>>2148452
>reddit

>>2148075
is that a fucking HoMM3 archdevil? Holy shit

>>2145702
Sisters... how are we holding up? Is it, dare i say it, f-finally good?

>>2148513
It's getting there.

Are we gonna get Taiga Bandits and more Minor Factions with the release of War Sails?
They can't just add the nords and leave it at that, right?

>>2148584
>Minor Factions
There needs to be more interactions with these. There's one mod that makes their hideouts mini-fiefs with notables and recruiting but that's the bare minimum.

>>2148588
Most Minor Factions make more sense as nomadic people without a permanent outpost (Karakhergit, Eleftheroi, Vakken) but I think they could have more depth of they could make unique Hideouts like Bandits where more of their troops could be found.

>>2148613
There just needs to be more settlement types between hideout and fiefs. Nomadic factions could have temporary camps that pack up and relocate a few times per in game year. Minor clans that dont have fiefs could have a small manor or homestead stuck between fiefs. Or they could own a single village thats slightly larger and acts more like a pseudo town.

>>2148584
With 1.4 in December 2026 get hyped!

>>2148513
It's a leap in the right direction.
It's also, in my opinion, restored hope for what may be coming for the game in the future. Time was I looked at the game in 1.2 and thought "Well I mean yeah I think this is just as good as it will ever be I suppose".

Imagine another couple of big updates and DLCs, adding another kingdom in the South-East and the islands in the South-West.

>>2148710
it just feels abusive to me
silence and fuckall for 5 years
suddenly they have a nice patch for us coinciding with their new dlc they want us to buy
they didn't give a fuck about the game until they have something new to sell us

>>2148733
I get it. I'm not claiming they haven't been cynical with us. I remember the utter fucking laziness on display in the past couple of years especially. But I'm just glad that this is happening at least.
I'm guessing they took a look at the bank account and thought fucking hell we'd best put something out for sale. Oh, but people don't trust us anymore? Fucking hell we'd best put in some actual work then for the first time in a long while.

I still prefer this over 1.2 being the final build of the game forever.

>>2148737
>I still prefer this over 1.2 being the final build of the game forever.
on that, we agree
at the end of the day i just want the game to be good, so i can have fun playing it instead of making dissapointed posts about it.

so you guys are saying they won't make the game any better than this since we'll buy the LDC because devs listened and shiet?

>>2148773
they will make it better but it will take 10 more years

>emperor's folly
>people mention how stacking culturally different units is bad
>game doesn't punish you for it

>stealth system
I just don't see how this fixes roguery being useless. Or hideouts. Or prison breaks. You can now take 20x as long to kill the 15 guys in a hideout instead of rocking up with the same 10 T6 troops you'd have curbstompted it with, but only after you stealth killed some of them. All still to gain like +2 with town notables at the cost of losing a source of free influence and XP from crushing bandit parties in the one time of the game you wouldn't stabilize the map, early game.

Prison breaks have never been useful except when you could get nobles killed to no consequence in that patched "bug" and still won't be useful now that they're long stealth gauntlets. One war's worth of captive donation can max relations with an entire faction in an hour and a captive nobles 2nd cousin's wife will spawn the same army he would if you left him captive for the duration of combat.

It doesn't scale at all past roleplay tier and we all know that's a short lived playthrough. Nothing they've said or shown or has been mentioned about how it effects the still pointless alley mechanic either. And there is no assassin "lategame" involved in killing notables in towns, governor clan members, or enemy lords without the relation penalty. The whole thing seems like a fucking lot of work (for taleworlds, this is more animations and mechanics than combat itself) for something no one will do a second time. finally incorporating 20% of the diplomacy mod into the base game at least fixes glaring problems but there are a lot more core game loop things still unaddressed.

>>2148812
it's more of a good framework for things that COULD be good gameplay. Assassinations are one thing but also night battles where you can sneak up on troops and kill them without alerting the whole army would be a huge game changer. Sneaking into towns and castles to avoid sieges by having someone just open the door for you would also add a big new approach to doing shit, or wiping out guards and sabotaging shit like siege engines.

>>2148818
Also
>sneak into besieged town and burn their food stocks to force a surrender
>sneak into army camp and burn their supolies, now all their horses are lame from no food, archers have half the ammo, infantry may be lower health
>sneak into caste and steal a lords' money and wealth just to be a bastard and humilliate them

>>2148818
the problem is all of that is worse and far less time efficient than what exists, a continuation of the same problem of the whole system. Why would you ever have like 300 roguery and play a 20 minute stealth sequence to make a field battle you still have to fight easier. Especially when time and skill allocation wise you'll be behind in leading the army all that is supposed to give an edge to. microing a T6 doomstack or pressing auto resolve on troops you're printing out of discard gear are two more conventional, far more powerful uses of a play session. Both which will be perfectly viable in the new naval combat system, which stealth can't do shit in.

It's not changing anything about the basic problem of a crimer bandit play system having no part of, or even it's own, late or even midgame. Youtubers showcasing it are backstabbing bandits at 0 roguery like altair so what good is investment into the system. If it did let you kill nobles how will it matter without a complete and total overhaul to npc behavior, spawn mechanics, and clan power. And how would it be balanceable if a player could just nuke prosperity and clans from perfect stealth; there are reasons they didn't add any of these interactions that the system could but can't ever be used for.

Adding new navigable landmass, a new faction, placing new settlements and a new troop tree is easy, as is adding new equipment models. Adding the Nords was dirt easy.

What Taleworlds is truly 'selling' is the 1.3.0 patch, which they justify working on my associating its release with the Warsails DLC.

It's a cunning strategy to increase profits and justify the time and money investment it took to work on the hard part, which is not the DLC itself but rather the 1.3.0 patch.

They will only work on "major" patches (that should've been in the game from the very beginning) if they're releasing such patches alongside a paid DLC.

>>2148584
>>2148588
>>2148613
>>2148625
I don't understand TW's obsession with 1:1 balance between the factions. There should be relationship bonuses between the Sturgians and the Nords, with a "Nord mercenary" system available exclusively to the Sturgians that lets them hire an army of Nords. Moderate cost. This army could not be used against Sturgians or Nords, unless it's hired by the faction leader against a rebellion.

The Empire should have a large number of smaller mercenary companies (i.e auxiliaries) it could hire from all the different cultures, at significant cost. Could definitely be used against other imperial factions.

The Vlandians should have their own mercenary companies that bring in significant income when hired out to other kingdoms, and can only be used against other Vlandians (i.e against the faction leader, or by the faction leader against a rebellion) if hired by Vlandians. They would be rather expensive.

The Battanians I imagine would only hire out their services as a faction, as mercenaries, if they themselves were not at war, considering their precarious situation. They'd be relatively inexpensive.

The Khuzaits would be available for hire regardless of their situation, and would be relatively inexpensive.

The Aserai I don't know, what do you guys think?

These are just some thoughts off my head, without much heed for balance. But rather just to spice up the game.

>>2148812
>You can now take 20x as long to kill the 15 guys in a hideout instead of rocking up with the same 10 T6 troops
I'm already looking for a mod that just streamlines hideouts. What a dogshit mechanic made even worse.

>>2148853
>Aserai
slavery as a mechanic, allow Aserai boost their cities with slaves, either by incorporating them as a prosperity modifier or using them them to finish projects faster, allow them to sponsor their naval "aserai corsairs" that work on their own and bring slaves
>Battania
Clan units with limited number, same units but different clothes/paint each with their bonuses(some will have better archers others better food troops), give them boost in damage/defense each time they win a battle allowing them to snowball a bit
could also boost morale or damage if sufficient amount of units of the same clan are recruited, to counter this some clans hate each other and need a lot of wins to remove negative effects like moral and increased wage
>Khuzaits
sponsor "adventuring" parties that will target kingdom/region of your choice to plunder and disrupt trade they are A.I controlled(no diplomatic penalty), when contract expires they either give back portion of the loot or you can hire them as a special unit, 2 handed sword and bows mounted

>Start megapatch 1.3 new game
>Suddenly a wild New Vegas Malcolm Holmes appears "Ive been following you for a good bit now... take this dagger and ninja boots and go rescue the village elder"
>But I was supossed to fight with a warband... I dont know whats going on... no hints or tutorials or anything
>Ive been spotted
>Fission Mailed !!!1!
>Reload game and bruteforce this retard happy hour stealth tutorial mission
>I still dont know whats happening but complete the task
>Finally I can start a Warband game
>MFW stealth missions are not optional
...At least Taleworlds added Deserters and it only took them 6 years and the greed to sell a DLC

>>2148871
ERM cool it with the negative vibes unc???
Zoomerlord > dogwater > Boomerband

>>2148871
listen some poor dev wasted his time on that shit to it's only fair everyone else has to waste it too OKAY!?

>>2146469
A different event. These really need special flags to check if the troops match or not.

>>2148959
Fuck, forgot pic.

>>2148871
>playing campaign
>having hints disabled

>The reduced loot is a bug actually and we are looking to send a fix for it
it's over

Mods for this feel?

>>2145702
>>2148513
The only thing I can feel seeing this is "too little too late". It's been five fucking years

are the deserters actually functioning like deserters or are they just random spawns

>>2149078
they spawn when a lord is defeated but idk if the troops are random or from routed troops.

>>2149101
good enough

>Hey all you may also have seen the new unannounced Flails weapon on Reddit, other platforms, or in-game in the Cheat Inventory menu. We wanted to share some information with you regarding why they haven't been announced / added to the regular game yet...
>
> Flails are a very cool but complex weapon system given their physics.
> We are still in the process of discussing how they should be created (if they should be craftable or not) and how AI troops should use them and/or respond to them.
> Both of these questions can affect the content requirements (how the models are created) and how many of them we should add to the game.

>>2149165
Its fucking simple
>flails wrap around blocks, even with small shields
>flails cannot block, parry or riposte
>the only blocking option is chambering
>flails need wind up to hit and timing with the swing is essential to make the hits flow into eachother, one cannot simply pre-charge a strike

>>2149179
>>flails cannot block, parry or riposte
why though? the have a wooden stick don't they?
besides, two handed flails exist irl. you can definitely block with them.
wrapping around should be physcis based imo so even a weapon block can work if it touches the end of the flail instead of the stick/handle part.

>>2149191
The wooden handle is too short to feasibly block strikes, it'd be as optimistic as stopping a longsword with a pepper shaker. And we have only seen short one handed ones, pole flails are a while different beast and by virtue of being polearms they should be the most broken weapon in the game.

>>2149165
>decided to model the reddit ball and chain on a stick flail instead of the actual one used historically

>>2149203
you can block with daggers in bannerlord
>>2149210
there are some depictions of the ball and chain

>>2149219
>you can block with daggers in bannerlord
Yeah and thats really stupid too

Daggers blocking shouldnt be a thing. Chambering yes. Parrying perhaps. But you simply dont have enough surface to even catch most strikes, i dislike how the size of hitboxes gets completely ignored for blocking, shields are magnetic too. If Taleworlds were to steal any mod and put it in the game, it should be Unblockable trusts.

>>2149219
There are also depictions of knights fighting giant snails.

>>2149070
L'Aigle.

>>2149210
They modeled cavalry flails? Cool.

>>2149268
giant snails faction when?

So what is the new update about?

>>2149462
See pic >>2145702

this in the name of Jerusalem 2 mod seems very nice. too bad no release date.
>enemies can leave soldiers and escape just like the player
>laws per kingdom such as answering a jihad and how many taxes you have to pay
>claims on territory
>religion
>language
>can only recruit from your own fiefs
>fatigue so you have to rest
>have to buy water
>"court" system for adjucating disputes (menus only)

>>2149499
>enemies can leave soldiers and escape just like the player
>fatigue so you have to rest
This sounds annoying as shit

Gentlemen, I can honestly say I feel excited about the game's progress for the first time in three years.

>>2148227
considering that you talk shit you will fit better so follow your own advice you shiteater

>>2149548
Your post oozes ESL with an inferiority complex; or a moderate to severe learning disability, I'll let you pick.

You've had 2 chances now to actually post anything of meaning in response to me, but you choose not to. Don't bother replying anymore. I won't be reading it

>>2149554
fuck off you retard

>jeet on jeet esl bitch bastarding in my rage at turkroach devs game general

we're here to be mad at the diplomacy options being inferior to the diplomacy mod, not how your masters in computer computing from benshod U, new dheli campus never taught you how to code in C

im going to drop a truth nuke for you guys
there are no white countries where english is the first language left in the world so esl is some mutt insult at this point

>h1b'ocaust declared, mount and blade general most effected

I am moderately confused

>>2149247
It is wild how well polearms play with RBM and unblockable polearms in 1.12. Pikemen, pikemen with shoulder shields, and basic shieldwall spearmen suddenly are actually the backbone of armies they are supposed to be. As much seethe as the poise block break causes in player melee what it does in a line battle is actually let spears poke guys, which actually works when the AI doesn't blob shield to shield where neither side can do anything but hit each other with 50 length maces like the absolute state of basegame combat.

As much as I want to test out 1.13 I've seen the ai improvements and it just isn't there. rbm, unblockable thrusts, mylittlewarband, and the battle camera mod all have been in states of depreciation for years but you can work around the crashes, abandoning them for slightly aimed spear bracing and even more hesitant cavalry is a hard sell.

>>2149580
at the very least, RTS Camera and RBM are very likely to get updated for 1.3, i don't know if the unblockable thrust guy is that active but its not the most complex mod ever so SOMEONE might redo it or update it themselves later.

my favorite thing about spears in RBM is that they very, very often push someone back on impact even if they do minuscule damage, it relfects how you instinctively don't just stick yourself on a sharp end like a fucking wild boar and you can effectively keep people away with a spear even if they're fairly well armored. It's a big stick and it's got leverage and weight, it can't just be "batted away" like how idiots think it works.

I'm curious as to how all these mods and changes will work with a hellenistic mod that has full retard Sarissa length pikes braced. I don't think any of those like Eagle Rising have been updated in a while.

>Sturgia loses their hot and sexy round shields for awkward and dorky leaf shields
>Sturgia loses their infantry recruit bonus for a boring grain farming bonus
>Sturgia loses their safe northern border to get NORDED

Should I sell all my shares in Sturgia? Feels like the price is about crash.

>>2149605
You should never have had any in the first place

>>2149606
What are you invested in right now? What should I jump into if not Nords later on?

>>2149608
Invest in Battania, they can only go up.

>>2149614
Interesting.

anytime I check my games 95% of the cases Sanala(Aserai) is the most prosperous town
Vlandia's top west towns despite never-ever being invaded are somehow not on the top

>>2149630
>produces only food
>food is the random population-prosperity bottleneck
>town that only spawns in 6 denar grain by the thousand snowballs from hardcoded high prosperity to stupid big number
5 seconds ago I thought they had some broken trade good like noble mounts but no, it's literally just the game being stupid. They make food and have 0 of every other resource so they have double the population so double the prosperity of every single other settlement that doesn't have 4 villages all making low cost food items. Being everythingcucked might also generate stupid tariff revenue off traders too. Truly a well thought out economy system with no simulation issues at all.

>>2146027
Shit that was literally how I ran my kingdom
>one clan
>one king
>one empire

>>2146428
You can use a sledgehammer with your stealth outfit, but I haven't actually tried it on anyone yet

Oh look, the *worst* NPCs Replacement mopd just updated.

What do Anons think of the Jack of All Trades mod?
>Players instantly gain both opposing perks when Skill level reaches them.
>Perks Start-off weak but can level up to five times to become even more powerful.
>Perks are leveled up by doing relevant actions (A One-Handed Blunt Weapon Perk is leveled up when using Blunt One-Handed weapons).
>NPC Characters benefit from this to, earning random xp in relevant skills so that not all lords are identical.

>>2149786
Recently saw it on Nexus and started tracking it, will use it when I play the game sometime in the next 2-3 years.

>>2149786
i will get it just to not bother with choosing perks for my gorillion companion and family membet

>>2149786
Haven't tried it but I love it conceptually, I fucking hate having to make a trillion perk choices, especially when half of them are shit like +3% party movement speed

>Nordify Sturgia
>Add nords anyway

>>2149907
They are slavifying Sturgia again with 1.3.0 and War Sails.
What I want to know is if they're gonna add Taiga Bandits again. No sense in Sea Raiders being able to upgrade into Sturgian Troops when they could upgrade to Nord troops instead.

>>2148185
Hunt

>>2149907
>Nordify Sturgia
Get that rewriting of history shit out of here you desperate troll.

>>2149994
I don't play modules that run at 5fps on the campaign map.