Thread 2167441

We're out on Vicky 3 edition

>>2167441 (OP)
Who the hell draws all of these

>>2167445
Jay found artists, auteurs

>Rakkaz MT hides that you need Renowned Divinations or Illusions behind an MT expansion
This MT is pretty bad.

>>2167445
>>2167446
I assume he went on a furry forum?

>Kobold Time
>Have an absolutely crazy expansion phase in the early game, own entire Dragon Coast+Serpentshead by 1470
>Ally with Grombar so Lorent and Gawed stop attacking me off truce
>Help Grombar a bit
>Grombar decides he's done with me
>Sitting on my border
>89k in 1520
>War Wizard

I have created a monster.

>>2167628
In other news my Colonial Ventures are going well.
Dalaire is mostly uncontested save for... Grombar, of course, on the outer islands. Broken Coast is about to get formed, the spawnables just turned on and I'm planning to launch some early Wars of Oppression once my Broken Coast nation spawns. I just finished vassalizing+integrating Zurzumexia and stomped Mestikardu so the Triarchy should be dead relatively soon.
I've snagged Westport and have plans to expand in Deranne and Sorncost if Grombar gives me some breathing room; I can easily 1v1 Lorent right now and Gawed is dead.
With some spare colonists - at one point I had 3 colonists - I was able to snag a lot of important trade nodes on the Sarhal Coast so I'm set up for basically a century of overseas trade node blobbing now, I just need the damned forcelimit to be able to have an army drilling/ready to respond to an attack from Grombar/suppressing rebellions and another one fighting colonial wars.

I'm really out of the loop, is there a big winter EU4 update in the making or are we not getting it this time with the Vic mod release? I can't imagine that the entire mod team suddenly transitioned to a different game

>>2167649
The next update is for sure the Australia one, those nations are already on the git (but with generic ideas and no missions). When is it dropping? I have no fucking clue
>transitioned
The dev team are experts at that

>>2167431
If you're behind on institutions, being a tributary to someone who has them should give you spread (and the reverse applies too)

>>2167441 (OP)
I don't care I'm still not playing vic3

>>2167670
At this point I'm convinced jaybean got paid by paradox to tardwrangle his tranny coders into making a vic3 mod

>>2167441 (OP)
Threadly reminder that Castan Beastbane did nothing wrong

>>2167721
He's /ourguy/. That one sorrow mt is not canon

gold koboldiggas run this thread

>>2167678
anbennar was already meant to be a vic 2 mod

I think Jay likes the era

wow the ACE viking harpy tree is already way better than the base anbennar one

I have an announcement to make. Zokka is a bitchass slaver and he won't escape me forever. Also Zokka is gaaaaayyyy

>>2167516
Would be a logical choice. Allows him to pick out of a plethora of artist and the majority has experience with the subject matter.

>>2167756
>vaengheim
>super setup
>tree is another generic "conquer half the world and become friends with everyone" pos

What determines the culture change in Escann? It's 1540 and I'm still Redfoot halfing as Newshire

>>2167780
It's weird how little it interacts with the unique balance of power thing going on

I don't really know the intricacies of the combat well, is 15% shock damage not an insane bonus?

>>2167796
It's okay, but because of how modifiers work it's less impactful than most of the other combat buffs. It is, however, pretty easy to stack

Is there even a point to taking Exploration as Corvuria? I filled it out and colonized most of the Banished Isles before I realised that none of the trade routes actually reached my hub. Setting up a trade company innawoods seemed much more lucrative. The extra colonist has been useful for developing the marshlands I guess, but I could probably just have gotten Expansion and then removed it once I finished.

>>2167852
>Is there even a point to taking Exploration as Corvuria?
No. You get a free colonist for the marshland, that's good enough

>>2167756
I quite liked it but Ive never played the vanilla one so I cant compare it

>>2167780
kobildzan kinda mt

I wish Regent Court had a mechanic where you integrate new gods into the Court.
Big orcish RC nation? Petition to get Dookan recognized as a member.
Conquer Bulwar? Incorporate Surael as a member.
Rohibos? Sure, go ahead. Corin? Give her permanent membership while still following Adean. Kalyin? Agrados? Uelos? Yshtralania? Surely all of these deities can find some form of veneration within the Court.

VRORENMARCH MT FUCKIN WHEN?!?!

>>2167954
who are they again

>>2167937
>Dookan recognized as a member.
This would never pass, or cause a corin tier schism at best

Anyways the ACE ibevar tree gets a god added

>>2167969
Timmies eaten by Frozenmaw a few years before the game start

>>2167937
>Mfw I'm a Regent Court priest and the Dovesworn Gnolls start asking if the first Xhazobine can be added to the pantheon

>>2167441 (OP)
Do I need all the dlc listed in the workshop to play this?

>>2168038
>timmies
qhar

>>2168085
term for white people

>>2167937
>Big orcish RC nation? Petition to get Dookan recognized as a member.
That's clouded eye
>Corin? Give her permanent membership while still following Adean.
Pretty sure Adenica can do this

>>2168062
No. Though things like the building mods and content expanded do improve the overall experience

>>2168062
Just pirate the dlc
>>2168121
I also think the monument mods are pretty good

>>2167937
>Playing Frozenmaw game
>My MT makes me flip RC --> Corinite or eat 50-100 years of admin eff malus
Agonizing.

>The First Corinite War, lasting from 1620 to 1645, was a gruelling conflict which saw most of the Empire of Anbennar engulfed in war, with the Corinite princes aided by Escanni ‘Crusaders’ joining their fight against the Adeanic forces in the Empire. Eventually the war reached a stalemate, and was resolved by the Peace of Esmaria, which confirmed the right of princes to choose their faith, and extended this privilege to all subjects of the Empire, instituting a religious peace.
So going by the recent mission tree changes that means the entirety of Escann, Verne, Istralore presumably the entirety of the Eastern empire were fought to a standstill by about 6 Pearlsedgers?

>>2168127
Reaver blood, son.
Something something MTs aren't canon

>>2168150
Honestly the Vicky 3 "canon" is the worst thing to happen to the setting. So many MTs have neutered possibilities due to "well thats how it is in V3"

hear me out
what if
meiou anbennar

>>2168191
picrel is how fast that runs

accidentally got coalitioned hehe ^.^

>>2168178
Is it really so bad if a bunch of countries that go C*rinite in their MTs didn't actually flip in canon? Worst religion next to the Th**ght

>>2168242
That'll teach you to take a single 333 in the EoA.

>>2168150
>>2168250
I'd argue national ideas are pretty canon though, even if you ignore MT's. Especially since these countries got their redisgn done pretty much alongside Vicky the Corin side seems stacked as fuck

>>2168250
Yea because the wretched Revelians are everywhere now

My first time with the mod as Esthil and I've been enjoying it greatly but why is there so much hate for Corin? She ended the greentide and then ascended to the RC, brought in blood rains. Seems pretty reasonable for a god of blood compared to like Khorne or Khaine from Warhammer Fantasy.

>>2168317
She's a w*man

>>2168317
As in on here?
Woman.
But jokes aside people probably see it as a betrayal that she wants human and orc unity as it’s seen as a racial betrayal for what they did to Escann

>>2168321
>>2168323
Yeah the usual
Oh really? I've been purging goblins and enslaving orcs and my Corin bar is going negative, maybe I haven't noticed it...

>>2168250
all i know is that Grombar My Beloved has to deal with:
>take another 80 years to reform out of tribal government AND eat -25% admin eff for 50 years
or
>go regent court and then corinite

>>2168250
Of all the religions, I still hate Kheionism the most.

>>2168317
In the thread or in the MT? I don't like her because I hate the religious mechanics, the reformation in this game is OP as shit and everyone converts. plus after the 300th time you've dealt with her period raining down on your peace and development you get a grudge.

>>2168325
The cope for some Corinites is that the end justifies the means and all this for one day achieving peace. That’s where you get unironic lich lord corinites

That being said enslaving orcs at all is not very Corin approved, she had an orc and a half orc in her circle after all

>>2168317
She took Orcish BBC and her religion is basically "Orcs dindu nuffin"

>>2168332
Wyvernheart goes Corinite and they sure don't care that much.

>>2168331
The fields are worked by undead so I don't think they mind it that much...
>>2168332
Yeah I've been going negative Corin faith a lot and while it does give good bonuses I don't think I'm her special boy
On the other hand the Empire went faith route and is embracing her??
>>2168333
Grim. Hope I can reform to some undead or no god thing when I go Black Demense.

>>2168333
It’d be BGC, Adeancuck

>>2168335
Really, in their MT? I’ve seen them do all kinds of things including Infernal Court and that dark mage cult

>>2168341
If I remember right the Infernal Court flip is after they flip to Corinite, also optional.

Is this it? Is this all dwarfs do? Sit around and stare at colonizers?

>>2168366
In the Serpentspine you definitely need a tolerance for sitting around. You can play Verkal Ozovar for a game with less sitting around. Silverforge too.

>>2168367
I wanted to go for the Sky Watchers but they're sooo far from everything

>>2168366
I recommend tabbing out a lot in the first century

>>2168376
Try Odval Tungr. Hold dev but you'll spend the majority of the game feeding half the world to your ally/vassal sister republic, doing colonial wars and forcing most of Bulwar into debt bondage.

>>2168366
>>2168367
Shazstundihr and Ovdal Tungr get to fuck around in Bulwar, one through direct conquest and the other through vassalizing everyone with Israeli debt trap schemes

>>2168317
Serious answer: she's the daughter of Agrados, the exiled rapist war god turned Satan of the Regent Court, and within a hundred years of joining starts a war in heaven over taking over the chief seat after it turns out Castellos is dead. A seat which, to reiterate, she has no right to because Agrados was exiled. This leads to League Wars which kill millions. She causes period blood rain over most of eastern Cannor and probably killed the soul of the Orcish race when she slew Dookanson (and fucked up the time itself in order to do so). All of her followers are evil, varying from Istralore's mundane "imma use this religion as an excuse to usurp power in the empire" to Grombar's exotic "rape as state policy" to whatever the fuck is going in with the adventurer formables. And worst of all, she paves the way for Ravelianism, which is r*ddit atheism mixed with freemasonry and worship of a Precursor phylactory.

why don't people hate the infernal court as much as corinites

What do they actually mean by Castellos being dead? Aren’t all the gods in this humans who rose to heaven?

>>2168416
There’s no smoke and mirrors, they’re literally unapologetic satanists.

>>2168413
>worship of a Precursor phylactory.
Doesn't it claim to predate the Precursors?

>>2168416
Going by in-game mechanics Regent Court hates Infernal Court and Corinite equally since they're both heretic religions. I do find it strange that Infernal Court doesn't have its own additional relation modifier because I find it hard to believe Catholics would accept Satanists as readily as they would Protestants.

>>2168417
The mural elves painted depicts a guy that looks like Castellos descending from heavens and then dying

Are we really supposed to believe that some random elf monks survived just long enough in the middle of the blast zone to paint a mural and then simply died out, leaving no trace? COME ON

>>2168115
Clouded eye (at least Arosha) are clearly anti-dookan

>>2168250
>thought
>bad
You can't handle FACTS and LOGIC

Corinism is right about orcs. It has been proven that they are capable of being normal so their niggerism is not inherent therefore they deserve a chance at redemption as much as anyone else.

>>2168476
Adean is my favorite. Shame that Adenica into Castanor doesn't feel that great.

>>2167954
>'white' reachmen taking back their land from the savage invading orcs

never gonna happen

>tfw Esthil
>tfw Orc Minorities
>tfw Corin tells us to be nice to them
>tfw my grandpa's skeleton that remembers the Greentide works the fields better than them
Boys this Corin thing ain't working out

I feel like people always recommend human nations in Escann, but are any of the greenskin tribes interesting?

>>2168038
>t. proud grombari "half-orc" nationalist (98% white reachman DNA)

>>2168497
This is why you play Marrhold and commit to genocide and slave trade because they killed your pet

>>2168499
There's 3 formables, Barumand, Unguldavor and Khozrugan. Unguldavor just got a rework so it's probably decent. I believe Barumand was also worked on recently.

>>2168499
Clouded Eye is cool if you wanna civilize the Orcs

otherwise theres nothing else decent in Escann for Orcs

>>2168416
people hate a traitor more than an enemy

>>2168420
>it claims to
That's the kicker. It could just be lying.
It's a shame the Ravelian church won't let us try to analyse how old the damn thing is.

>>2168421
Don’t you get a free CB on Infernal Court countries as if they were a witch king?

>>2168522
Yeah, that does sound right. I think you get War Against Evil which is a really good CB. So I guess that's the relation modifier I want. I just didn't think about it from my perspective on the run I flipped to it. I was still expecting a relation malus or something, it was easy to get RC and Corinite people to not hate me as IC.

Any nation recommendations? Was thinking trying Nimscodd

>>2168464
They still get Dookan as a RC deity though

>>2168564
I also wanna try Nimscodd because despite playing the mod for a year I haven't ever played a single proper colonial game. I'm playing Vaengheim right now and I took exploration but still it's not as colony focused as hierarchy

>>2168572
I mostly wanna fuck around with the whole Artificery stuff but colonialism is also fun

>>2168564
Nimscodd is definitely fun, worth a playthrough.

>>2168564
do it, artificery is insane and unlike kobolds it's not CBT to play them

>>2168587
I'm probably biased because I miss the old Kobold start but it's pretty easy since the reworks.

>>2168476
Yeah what does the godly arena look like? Who sides with Corin over Adean?

>>2168509
Is Clouded Eye the one run by the femorc from Corin's Circle?

>>2168564
I'd probably say do Revaria instead you still get insane artificery early but also get to do Viking shit and the tree is newer

>>2168635
yeah

this is so cool

>>2168732
Look what they need to mimic a fraction of Roadwarrior's power.

>>2168732
they gotta balkanize them more. region per region then area per area and finally province per province. TELLUM SHALL COLONIZE ALL!!!

>>2167756
Not sure since I haven't played the vanilla tree but I did post in this thread when ACE released the vaengheim tree and it was just a boring blob MT.

I dont even know what ace is

>>2168824
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3327090985
>>2168822
so is the vanilla one, but it has cool localization/events at least (written like Norse sagas)

>>2168635
>>2168663
>playing this out
>random fuck off event kills Arosha
>rest of the mission tree consists of her writing journal entries about things that happened after she died

They really need to make it so leaders like this can't die before a certain point

>>2168855
The mechanic does exist but it's pretty overpowered so they don't give it out to anybody or without conditions. Ameion has it so you get to use Laskaris as a general for free.

>debating making a MT for a tag
>trying to submit one with the actual mod will result in literal years of waiting for approval + micromanaging bullshit from region leads
>ACE already has someone else doing the tag
>i also have no fucking idea how to make MTs that aren't steaming hot garbage
pain

>>2168932
What's the tag?

>>2168413
this is great, I love Wyvernheart the most
fuckin Umbrella Corp out here in the worst region of the planet, I wish the rest were even more monstrous, I need to try Nurcestir and Covenblad next

>>2168934
Hytiranyalen (one of the harpy vassal tags), had a few ideas floating around for one.
Also Bulwar is apparently notorious for being hell to develop stuff for in the actual mod.

>>2168413
>Ravelianism, which is r*ddit atheism mixed with freemasonry
It is not, reddit atheist constantly advocate for the removal or overhaul of Ravelianism because "its too similar to Christianity" and that "abstract deism in a world where deities actually exists makes 0 sense, no one would worship a cube daddy over someone like Corin".

AI Command winning the Insubordination. Cool.

>>2168988
Real atheists constantly say that even if they got proof that God exists they still wouldn't worship him because he's cruel etc

>>2169013
wouldn't that make them anti-theist rather than just atheist.

Henlo Anonies
Starting a Pashaine campaign, anything I need to know or known pitfalls to avoid? I got to about 1480 before realizing that I'm gonna need to strap in for an 1800 campaign.
I keep getting tempted to take land and then release vassals: Will I insta-brick my Free City status doing that?
Force-vassalizing Luna River minors - any problem with that?
Tips for Swaymaxxing?

>>2169036
First campaign I'm honestly going to take Court ideas on. It feels wrong yet right.

>>2169009
Well, they got two of the Commands back at least. They'll probably rebound in a few decades even if they end up losing this. It's entertaining just to watch this.

Real Corin hatred hours

>>2168855
ironic, mine lived for a long ass time

also replaced her near perfect son heir for some reason by event

>>2169050
they did stop grombar they converted them to corinism :3
given time, we'd have a corinite xhazobine

anybody got pictures of the vicbennar culture maps? i want to see what happened in the canon.

>>2168191
Isn't that what EU5 Anbennar may as well be?

>>2169089
yes

So, how do you get Aelnar out of the gutter in Vic3?

>>2169062
>given time, we'd have a corinite xhazobine
Corinites on their way to South Aelantir upon hearing about the Effelai

Any word on how deep EU5 Anbennar will take the sub-province autism?

>>2169135
Become multicultural and accept millions of immigrants.

>>2169155
Has EU5 anbennar even been confirmed yet?

>>2169200
It'll be playable in 5 years.

>>2169200
its been confirmed, and theyre sticking with the 1444 start date for obvious reasons

itll probably take ages just to get the map done

>>2169200
It's still YEARS away regardless

How the hell are you meant to play this country? I've started twice now and both times the Khet declare war on my useless ally/country I'm meant to diplo vassalize in a few years since they've for some reason deleted their entire army while I'm busy dealing with Eborthil.

>>2169271
This is just a general piece of advice for fighting outnumbered/staggering large enemies (Kobolds v Lorent/Gawed, Feiten v Bianfang, Anyone v Command)
When the war is declared, check what the max cash you can get from them is. Consider that your "budget" for the war and buy mercs/above forcelimit so that you can kill their manpower above that point.

As-is, it looks like you're gonna need to galley spam, invade eborthil, more-or-less ignore Kheterata, and then peace them out and figure out where you go from there. But also, it's 1447 - I personally would reroll until the Nirakhet war goes a bit longer, and likely wait to ally Brrtkuh until after the Eborthil War.

The most important thing in early-game is that you fill combat width with a stack. Then it's just hunting whatever the AI is dumb enough to split off until you can win in a regular fight.

or if you get a war wizard you can just throw him at a stack and auto win

>>2169291
That helps but War Wizards aren't so crazy any more, most of them won't have more than 8 pips of Shock since the rework.

>>2169296
i saw wesdameria with 11 shock yesterday
getting stackwiped while fighting them with 33% numerical advantage was a fun surprise

>>2169200
>pic
All of the above.

>>2169200
Do female Gnolls have pseudopenises? This is important

redpill me on the gnomes

>>2169524
Of course they do, the furries in the dev team would riot otherwise.

>>2169200
gnomes dont look like that

>>2169533
Okay but are they accurate pseudopenises which scrunch up for sex or are they the gay furfag discount futa/strapon fake dick kind?

>>2167852
using colonists to dev is never efficient, it's just better to use the money to have better advisors, The dev you gain is negligible and you can't build buildings on the land while you're "deving" with a colonist.
The rate of dev gain that you get with colonist scales negatively with the existing dev on the provence, if the rate of dev gain was flat then colonist deving might actually be worth it for high dev provinces

>>2167852
why would you ever do this

they have this so far

>>2169218
>>2169562

fucked up that i had more fun playing meiou than i had playing as an elf reclaimer/colonizer

>>2169570
but you're just staring at the screen on speed 5 in both scenarios so I don't get it

>>2167970
>This would never pass, or cause a corin tier schism at best
This is a feature, not a bug.

>>2169570
Rezankand mogs Aelnar

>>2169562
Corvuria is tropical? Doesn't that kind of ruin their Transylvanian aesthetic?

>>2169570
Colonizing isn’t fun it’s just a mix of waiting and frustration because fuckwadland stole the single piece of land you need to finish a mission

>>2169562
This map makes less sense the more you look at it.

>>2169537
>>2169557
The fact their MT wants you to develop so much made me want to find alternative means to help with that. Like pillaging to dev up the capital and so on.
>if the rate of dev gain was flat
The lowest I've seen it go was 5%. Completely negligible but I could see it being smth you could do once after all the land in Aelantir has been taken

think I'm done with my magisterium run
economic hegemon, #1 great power and just beat lorent in a coallition war to knock them off the top spot
also biggest colonial empire despite never getting a single colonist, just stealing colonies in wars since they're cheap and I didnt want to blob in cannor. gawent and me hve been allied since day 1, feels good man. also had a centuries-long alliancewith busilar until they changed religion and suddenly hated me.

overall very fun country, would recommend

>>2169562
There are so many fuckups with that map I don't even know where to start

>>2169666
Just start with something.

>>2169648
>The fact their MT wants you to develop so much made me want to find alternative means to help with that. Like pillaging to dev up the capital and so on.
deving is already cheaper in anbennar due to racial pop modifiers on provinces, it's completely doable as you're going to have a 6 6 6 immortal vampire mage ruler
get your transmutation up for ruler stat boosts and homunculus advisors for extra 1 monthly mana in each and extra advisor buff
just play them like you would in a mp game
temple rights + infra + burgher loyalty + divination (for apc) + prosperity + dev edict = cheap deving

>>2169667
Why the fuck is the land around the Mother's Sorrow river show as "Arid", when in the lore it's a thin strip of perfect habitability through the desert and none of the provinces in EU4 have the "arid" modifier

>>2169562
>Rich subterranean
>Warm subterranean
what does that even mean? Like the vents stopped working in those sections??

>>2169721
it can still be farmland, it's arid bc it's for weather modeling, ie it doesn't rain there but you irrigate from the river instead

>>2169744
rich subterranean is where the underground vegetation is luscious
warm subterranean is where the underground is close to magma vents so it's extra hot

Stop doing this. Please.

>>2167903
>I quite liked it but Ive never played the vanilla one so I cant compare it
the vanilla one is a generic "become a tolerant democracy" and it forces you to pick privileges and there's a mission that has a requirement to win 300 battles

can... can we talk about vicky 3 anbennar here?

>>2169796
no

>>2169796
I don't care who paradox sends I'm not playing vic3!

>>2169804
I'm not asking you too.

>>2169796
Yes, I suppose, but why would you talk about it, other than to laugh?

when does suhan show up?

>>2169790
>Stop doing this. Please.
What, you dont like wasting 5k and 5 years building useless impressment offices only to destroy them right away?

You just know there has to be a sizable Yansheni Wuhyun diaspora in 21th century Aelantir after the Dragon Command falls and they inevitably got genocided by the rest of Yanshen.

>>2169562
A lot of bullshit here. Whoever made that map loves the tropics way too much.

Dropped my Vaengheim run and started as Nimscodd. I guess Vaengheim is cool if you care about Gerudians and their lore, in my opinion they should all end up as troll food

>>2169904
Why would they get genocided

>>2169905
There's way too much jungle bullshit in EU4 as is, tone that shit down.

>>2169562
>About 2/3s of the world is desert or jungle
Halann is both Oxygen rich and very sandy

what's a chudmaxxing country

>>2170022
One of the Ynn countries I played has a council that gives you a permanent nasty penalty if you accept Cannorians in a summit or a bonus if you stick to your tribal ways. There's similar punishments throughout the tree for trying to integrate other cultures. I think it was Amacimst.

>>2170023
Oh, and when I looked at the event to see what the other decision would have given me, the one with the penalty is named dumb.libtard or something like that.

>>2169914
Because they're buckbroken humans who'd rather be eternal 2nd class citizen under the hobs? They literally rebelled against the human coalition when it conquered Jiangdu from the Dragon Command. Also the fact that by Victoria times Yanshen has been quasi-unified in their attempts to fought off the Command for nearly half a millenia, there's no chance that Hobgoblins and Wuhyuns are going to just get off scot-free, when the elves had been massacred because of way less.

>>2169905
>>2169917
does eu5 have a terrain change system?
would be cool if they started as jungle but deforestation eventually turns them into grasslands/plains

>>2170028
But the elves are always a minority, like Jews, it's easy to bully them. Wuhyuns are a pretty huge ass population and they are still human, just with hobbified culture. I think they would more likely just become sort of pariahs but with attempts to reintegrate them in Yansheni culture

I got out of the chud jail.
PSA: don't play that shit, it's a barebone mod on a barebone game.

>>2169721
egypt is arid farmland in eu5

>>2170022
Asarta genocides humans
The humans next to them wear armor made from lizardman scales

>>2170022
>>2170055
Zokka sacrifices/enslaves entire nations
Luciande has you commit genocide on elves to give power to your vampire ruler that doesn't want to hide that he's a vampire, you enslave orcs too
Masked butcher has you enslave other races on farms for harvesting their faces because you're shapeshifter vampires
Konolhatep enslaves a lot of people in order to build monuments

>>2170022
Haraz Orldhum

>>2169905
>>2169917
Subtropical is not jungle.

>>2170069
You're still telling me that Corvuria is supposed to have the climate of Florida

>>2170071
The climate map is a simplification of an already simplified climate map. Large swathes of moderately similar areas are grouped together. The real map 'says' half of China is Florida.

The only way I will ever play vic3 is if it allows me to pull a reconquista as Kobildzan and enact TOTAL GOMMO DEATH

>>2170075
we hold hands and sing kumbaya here xir.

>>2170071
Most of it is literal marshland so that tracks

>>2170075
Reconquest? You dirty lizards keep calling the homeland that Gnomes have lived in for thousands of years yours when it never was. The only good kobold is a dead one.

>>2170075
>kobold lover
Literally dilate

could a republic get a powerful mage?
if so, could said mage get lichdom within the limited duration of his tenure?
might've seen an ai do that but i'm not sure, poor dude definitely gotten immediately voted out if i'm not imagining things

>>2170123
>could a republic get a powerful mage?
yes
>if so, could said mage get lichdom within the limited duration of his tenure?
I guess? Venetian election would be the best for this since they keep the ruler for life

Yeah, a lot of Republics can swap to Sortition and you can get an immortal permanent ruler as a Republic that way.

>>2170122
>kobold hater
Literally dienow

>>2170123
>might've seen an ai do that but i'm not sure, poor dude definitely gotten immediately voted out if i'm not imagining things
jesus, what the fuck was this sentence
i need to stop playing anbennar for 24 hours straight

A bonus objective where I voluntarily permanently taint my bloodline? Well that not happening.

>>2170149
I love that true half-elves have a mechanic where they stop being half-elves if they don't have any further influx of elven blood but horcs, even if they marry humans for generations, are always considered horcs.
With the exception of Camir Silmuna (pbuh)

>>2170149
This is pretty stupid. Are you telling me in 400 years of Silmunian Dameria not once they intermarried with the Istralore, one of their chief vassals? Also, one more thing - if the escanni branch is seen as legitimate and Anbennarians recognize matrilineal descent and inheritance then EVERYONE who ever married into the Lunny House has equally decent claim to Dameria.

I am playing Sons of Dameria, should I form Adenica or Rogieria?

>>2170189
Rogieria so you can embrace your muttness and fulfill the will of Satan.

>>2170189
Rogieria if you want the evil muttoid experience, Adeanica to play one of the few good guys in Escann

>>2170071
dude, half of corvuria is dense swampland on an ocean near not-middle east

of course its floridian

Eu5 has unique localization for any province

should be fun for lorefags when the mod releases

>>2170235
wonder if they'll commit to a full scale map or just port over EU4's like they did for Vic 3

>>2170235
What are they gonna do with bazillion provinces in Australia and Sahara?
>Sand in Oboingo is especially sandy

>>2170238
Wdym?

>>2170243
basically will they commit to completely redoing the map to EU5's larger and more detailed scale
a paradox dev in the discord did encourage them to do so but warned it is a slow process

>>2170157
Lothane, the quarter orc, had the backing of his grand uncle which solidified his claim.

>>2170248
pretty sure they said the plan is to already make anbennar larger to match the scale of eu5

with way more EoA tags

should make Escann feel less crowded

>>2170257
>should make Escann feel less crowded
fool, that just means there's room for MORE adventurer tags

>>2170257
Well that's concerning given its been about half a decade and they've still not finished filling in the EU4 map

>>2170260
theyre pretty much almost done, just gotta finish insyaa

>>2167937
>Corin?
Adenica's mission tree lets you jam corin back into the RC

>>2170261
I don't think there's a timeframe on when that's getting done though is there? Last I heard they were still arguing whether it was populated by robots or turtles

>>2168126
why wouldn't you stay old dookan, objectively one of the strongest religions in the game?

>>2170281
The Frozenmaw MT rework essentially railroads you into Regent Court. It's honestly killed such a fun nation/area for me.
You start the game with a malus to faith points generation that can be mitigated to only -15%, but because your religious unity is shit being Frozenmaw and you can't afford Religious until like tech 7, you're gonna spend ~40 years converting provinces to Old Dookan. By the time you do that, you'll be halfway down your MT.
It changes every province with a half-orc pop into RC and then your leader converts your national religion into RC. This mission is required to complete the MT, otherwise you get the pre-MT orc mechanics of "reform your government at -30% reformprogress modifier before you can click Become Country button at Tech 7, otherwise, take -50% admin efficiency for 50 years." The only way to remove this malus is to go through the entire reformprogress at -30 or complete the Frozenmaw MT.

I ragequit at that point, because the Grombar MT isn't changed and Grombar railroads you into being Corinite with the Grombari Wars of Religion mechanic later in the game.

The only way to not suffer through Old Orc Mechanics and remain Old Dookan is to rebelflip, which is basically one step away from console commanding anyways.

grombar is cringe anyways

Gimme a country to play

>>2170287
Did they give the chud dookan path to the gray orc minors instead of letting Frozenmaw keep it?

after playing magisterium, is Orda Aldresia any fun?

>>2170354
Krakdhumvror
for maximum pain make sure Frozenmaw wins against Vrorenmarch

>>2170280
it already has nations on the gitlab but none of them have any national ideas or mission trees

>>2170369
you blob ibevar and corvuria and you basically get to event annex the magisterium (hope the ai does the missions for the tower and the trade good swaps but it probably won't bc the ai is dogshit at completing their missions)
The start is super slow and inconsistent bc you start as a vassal to the emperor (who will be ai unless this is a coop campaign) and alot of missions are time gated behind ravelian and winning x amount of wars for the emperor (ai super inconsistant about deccing war)
if you're willing to abuse console commands, it's not bad

>>2170354
Zokka and devour the sun.

>>2170354
Toarnaire -> Roilsard -> Lorent

>>2170287
This is ON TOP OF the Frozenmaw Rework being effectively a nerf to Frozenmaw, with most of its missions serving as a cash drain and monarch point drain.
Dev forest provinces while being an orc administration (because you weren't strapped for monarch points already with Brasur dying in 1451)
Build barracks on 5-dev provinces in 1470 because your land is super productive at this point (entire economy consists of 1 gold mine, you are on ADM tech 4 if you're lucky)
Basically all claims on Gerudia gone from the tree, enjoy unjustified demands or spyspamming

>>2170369
>>2170390
desu I liked the theme of the MT as a disgraced order getting revenge on Wex and the mages but I wasnt a fan of them turning their back on their entire faith to worship the cube

>>2170414
I mean you get to usurp the ravelian state, keep all your mil modifiers and get access to the ravelian state mt, but at that point the game isn't fun unless it's MP bc you should have outscaled every ai on the map
Also if you're immortal (very easy with culture shift to elf as you blob ibevar), you just stay rectorate controller the entire time
Having a powerful mage isn't even that bad the -50% artifice cap is nothing if you have artificery early, as finishing a research gives artificer capacity before 1650
I find that I always have capacity left over even with maxxed out invention slots (10 slots)

>>2169622
obviously

>>2168413
>A seat which, to reiterate, she has no right to because Agrados was exiled
>muh right
typical regent court cuck
no but seriously though the idea is the rest of the pantheon did jack shit during the greentide meanwhile you have the supposed daughter of agrados and her merry band preventing the orcs from overrunning cannor on top of escann. it's not surprising at all that her worship would dominate escann and find followers on cannor

>>2170257
can't wait to form the escannraj as some random harimari adventurer

>>2168622
the way it pans out I think it's implied every other god stays out of it and lets them slug it out. otherwise it wouldn't make sense for the rest of the pantheon to be included in both religions, albeit less important in the corinite pantheon

>>2170453
It is pretty crazy that not a single harimari went west of davharal for over 1400 years

God damn what kind of rig do I need to play Zokka as intended?

>>2170043
How many pops did you lose at the start?

>>2170043
it's a shame that vic3 released the way it did
i really don't want the swedecunts over at paradox to fuck up eu5 as well

So what exactly did Ildran do wrong? Why shouldn't everyone just worship him?

>>2170532
I'm pretty optimistic about EU5, it's looking to be a much more significant improvement over 4 compared to the jump from 3 to 4. Like, if the new trade mechanics work even half as well as advertised, it's gonna be awesome and basically be all I ever wanted (dynamically change what becomes the center of the world)

>>2170542
does EU5 still have the retarded 'do nothing, ruler/heir randomly dies events'?
I fucking hate that with eu4

>>2170542
pops and dynamic trade is all I ever wanted and we're getting more

only way eu5 is gonna be bad is if its a broken buggy mess on release and they never fix it

>>2170123
this would be a fun idea for Newshire>Black Demesne

they need to fix this FAGGOT ASS EoA ASAP
that stupid BITCH Wex just crashed my fucking game with his unify anbennar bullshit, the fact these stupid fucks can get realm peace off 80% of the time before corinism can get a fucking war off.
its just not fuckin fun having them and the Denny'sRaj just eat an entire subcontinent into one giant disgusting blob nation when so many MTs in the area will require eating small provinces from them

just found out about how easy it is to add modifiers to countries through the files
maybe it's time to introduce some chaos

>>2170071
more like Virginia

>>2170571
works on my machine
>wex gets PU'd by lorent
>emperor is random nation
>doesnt pass anything ever because too weak

>>2170379
Forgot to check in on frozenmaw

whoops

Pashaine is so fun its unreal
60 dev core state
45 dev surrounding states
all provinces 30 dev
1550

what the fuck happened here
did the globogommo got gommo'd themselves

>>2170620
who do you recommend for pashaine

>>2170508
I went down to about 20k people before Lorent backed my conquest of northern league's colony near me, pushing me up to >100k. Then I pushed my military to be able to take over one of the OPM out of the glacier (kewdhmer), and from there it's snowballing.
Here's the current state. My primary annoyance is Lorent's alliance with the gnomes, preventing me to start eating dalaire.

>>2169062
Canonically, a lot of cannorian gnolls converted to corinism because they saw Corin as a human xhazobine and wanted to emulate her.
Seeing that she was possessed by Agrados, they're not entirely wrong.

>>2170650
Any Luna river minor can form it but Blueheart is probably the best, it also borders Cestirande and can release like 3 city state vassals from it

>>2170668
how many elves

>>2170022
Dahvar Aelnar requires purging like 6 races at the same time. Their religion quite clearly states the star elf is the superior race and all the lesser races are a taint on Aelantir.

>>2170695
It's in the screen. 52.9m. They're star elves like you and me, alright? My daugther is dating a star elve of 1m30 with a very nice beard, he's a credit to this nation.

Seriously, tho, it's 7.92m star elves out of 70m total, but it's probably boosted by the other mods I use (more decrees, which allows you to eventually change homeland of states).

they should add a feature where Aelnar can repair the flying city and chud out by dropping it on a state of your choosing killing everyone there

imagine if the game had a better war system that allowed for more than two sides in a war, belligerents swapping sides during wars, joining wars only under certain conditions, as well as late entries into wars
would add more chaos if anbennar's religious conflict was a three way war between the regent court, corinites, and the ravelians

>>2170698
>Seriously, tho, it's 7.92m star elves out of 70m total
Shame there's no way to purge all those sub-elves

>>2170737
>purge
I got bad news for you, m8
It's not the 1500's anymore, times have changed.

>>2170739
>Multicultural
>No Migration controls
>Banned Slavery
A very progressive apartheid state

>>2170739
>multicult aelnar
Genuinely disgusting

>>2170751
Not as disgusting as what the dev did to Aelnar in Vic3.

>>2170739
My only regret is
1- Not having passed secret police when I could. Now I can only switch to guaranteed liberty, which is not nearly as good as other options.
2- Still being stuck between Interventionism and Agrarianism, because my industrialist leader is fucking opposing laissez-faire.

Also apparently nobody gives a fuck about mechanim rights, so i'm stuck there too.

>>2170762
It'd be salvageable if there was a tech that nullified the ridiculous mortality buff of the Dalairey Wastes or a JE that creates a Star Elf homeland there

No idea if this is true but allegedly the Anbennar team is so butthurt about people managing to succeed as Aelnar, that they're planning (or at least considering) to remove it entirely?

Funny part is that by standards of the stuff added to the mod later, Aelnar probably struggles to reach the "top 10 most evil tags" -list. It's just that it was one of the earliest fully fleshed out mission trees and lot of people's first introduction/draw to the mod and this is a perpetual source of salt from the Anbennar team.

>>2170795
That's just a rumour in this thread

>>2170797
they said on discord half the dev team wants to remove aelnar from vic3 and many of them dont like it in eu4 either

>>2170808
half the dev team are troons so it makes sense

>>2170763
>nobody gives a fuck about mechanim rights
that race is canonically nonbinary (they don't understand the concept of gender) so this is a good thing

>>2170808
Removing it in Vic 3 is probably better than just using it as a joke state. It's kind of fantastical any bit of the hyperracist expansionist elves that lost the war survive.

>>2170833
>kind of fantastical
almost like it's a fantasy setting, retard

>>2170808
Bunch of thin-skinned faggots.
Zokka literally ends the world and in the process commits genocide over most of Bulwar and Haless.
I guess it's because elves are 'white coded' or some bullshit and gnolls/orcs/whatever other races the most evil MTs belong to aren't.

Time to purge some knife ears as Dartaxes.

All my niggas hate elf niggas

>>2170808
The only real reason they want to remove it is that despite being an antique MT in EU4, despite having received 0 update in years, despite being the shittiest start of Vic3, it's still more popular and talked about than 95% of the garbage they churn out. 2025 Anbennar devs are midgets standing on the mountains built by giants, and claiming proudly "I did this".

>>2170808
>oh my science, a gay half orc, gay lizardman, lesbian ruinborn, and bodymod kobolds that are an allegory to transitioning, this is so wholesome it makes my clitty leak ~
>is-is that RACIST ELVES? oh my Fauci this is simply so heckin problematic, racism doesn't belong in ANY fantasy setting PERIOD because it gives an escapist fantasy to REAL racists

>>2170857
>midgets standing on the mountains built by giants, and claiming proudly "I did this"
Just like Gerudians, fr fr.
Also why is there no Gerudian formable in Vicky 3 if they break free from either their Gawedi or Grombari overlords?

>>2170847
Dartax doesn't hate elves and OSC in general especially has nothing against elves, he just has to make a temporary alliance with the sebhulichuds to achieve his political goals and after that he kicks their extremist asses as well

aelnar are boring and deserved to get ownzoned

>>2170861
This is why I like the Command MT, you literally get events to start punitive measures on any homosex stuff

you couldnt pay me to start in aelantir

>>2170954
the fey elves are kinda cool

otherwise everything else is kinda gay

>>2170954
I like Ameion.

>>2170808
>removing aelnar from vic3
Who cares avout Vic 3.

>>2170954
Ameion and Larankar are cool

>>2170857
>it's still more popular and talked about than 95% of the garbage they churn out
Wtf are you talking about, it didn't even make it into the top 30 tags in the last survey

>>2170973
I wanna see the survey results

>>2170975
Here
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1sfAuoawruzFUzwbi03ovLQZr6EjNowMunVKRV0HJnys/mobilepresent

>>2170975
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1sfAuoawruzFUzwbi03ovLQZr6EjNowMunVKRV0HJnys/

>>2170650
Blueheart for the later part of the campaign and objectively the best ideas. -10% devcost early in the tree is a nice monarch power save. You're gonna be locked as an OPM until tech 10 realistically, and AE in EoA is so heavy that you're effectively forced to dev. Your early ruler starts dogshit but he's 23 so he'll be 6/6/6 for a long time. If you play the nation properly you'll have a 6/6/6 for majority of the campaign.
Blueheart's +10 ICA in the mission tree isn't make or break, but it helps a lot to go toe-to-toe with the continental giants or scare off the inevitable coalitions Pashaine will get conquering Dameria.

I honestly absolutely love "peaceful expansion", when you get vassals or land through mt without war
Cestirmark has it, Seghdihr has it with Verkal Gulan, Pashaine is formed diplomatically through a mission, Adshaw get a union over Vrorenmarch, Ovdal Tungr gets Crathanor... Who else?

>>2170861
But why did you post Sonic

>>2170808
this same shit happened to Kaiserreich when it became too devbloated
anything remotely badguy coded got removed and every nation becomes a boring social democracy usually ruled by a feminist icon

>>2170973
That's a survey of MT popularity, not the nation in it's whole, and as such, it's heavily skewed toward most recent releases.
Meanwhile, if you read the discord, the subreddit or these threads, there's 3 big topics that keep getting talked about, that keep getting memed off:
-Jaddari.
-Aelnar.
-Dwarfs as a whole.

>>2170993
Hammerhome gets a free PU with Khugdihr
Vaengheim vassalizes their historical friend and steals Bjarnrik's vassal
Command can vassalize the Oni (this is one of the few peaceful things they can do)

>>2170993
Verkal Ozovar has some of it early, I think you can consolidate your starting vassals and get one or two more without much war. Barlijin has strong focus on developing and puppeting your human allies in the blue scarf peasant country. You can give them all of Yanshen and then eventually unite peacfully. Hammerhome apparently gets some special form of union with that bank Hold in the north-east

>>2170977
I've never even heard of these guys before

>>2171002
But there ARE old tags in the top 30. Jaddari, Azkare, Castankr, 5 dwarf tags, Balrijin, Azjakuma, Rogieria, The Command.

Aelnar is talked about because the video that popularized the mod discussed it, not because Aelnar itself is good.

>>2171009
Play them, they are really fun

>>2171005
>I think you can consolidate your starting vassals
yep
>and get one or two more without much war
notably you can vassalize the son of the ghost emperor

i declare
AN END TO SOBRIETY

i declare
TOTAL HOBGOBLIN DEATH

Who the hell are these guys? Uelaire doesn't even have a mission tree.

>>2171026
Basically, Uelos was god of the sea/sailing before Munas. And as of 1444 everyone who follows Uelos is a RC heretic.

>>2171009
They're unhinged in a fantastic way.

>>2171028
So there's no content anywhere for it? That sucks bringing back primordial ocean gods sounds much more fun than making everyone worship gingers.

>>2170074
>The real map 'says' half of China is Florida.
Which it is

>>2171037
Not yet at least. Fingers crossed someone will eventually starts working on Uelaire.

>>2171048
start*

>>2169562
>the map creator's thinly-veiled tropical fetish
>Bulwar (diet Baghdad) is cold arid
>the fertile banks of the Suran in general are mostly Arid
>the not-America around the Trollsbay is almost entirely subtropical
>the random splotch of cold arid terrain in West Castanor
>the shadow swamp doesn't get it's own special climate type to represent the shadow plane's influence, but the areas affected by the feyrealm do
>the redglades and yyl moitsaa are not fey-touched despite having heavy fey influence in the lore
>the not-Antarctic peninsula in the south is continental
>part of the mushroom forest is arid
I NEED TO STOP LOOKING IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE

>>2171037
The religion uses Anglican mechanics, with the majority of it's bonuses affecting your navy or coastal provinces. It breaks once the crimson deluge happens because you don't get an option to clear the event at the start of it.
No tags use it yet, and I doubt a Uelaire or Lamentaire mission tree will ever make it out of development hell.

>>2171037
>bringing back primordial ocean gods
Kumarkand does this

>>2171087
>>the not-Antarctic peninsula in the south is continental
That's actually what it's supposed to look like. It's not comparable to Antarctica.

>>2171003
Thanks, I gotta try Hammerhome sometime
I tried Vaengheim but wasn't really much interested in their theme

>>2171005
Definitely gotta try Verkal Ozovar and Balrijin. Too bad VO can't practically expand outside of Haless

>>2171026
Uelos was a cannorian human god of the seas, but since RC pantheon was formed by Castanor they didn't think it necessary to add Uelos to the pantheon because they were away from coasts

>>2171109
Hammerhome can dig in Marrhold. Don't take any land in the Serpentspine if you don't want Dwarf disasters to happen, give it to your bank vassal
Balrijin has decisions that tell their human vassal to declare wars

>>2171129
*human blue friend that gets vassalized later

you have to remember that eu5 classifies basically all of china as well as virginia as subtropical

pashaine seems absurdly strong

>>2171138
Virginia during the summer might as well be full on tropical

>>2171156
It is, with blackpowder anbennar I had the biggest army in the world without even taking quantity ideas, and crazy army quality with perpetual 100 tradition and 100 professionalism. I stopped giving a fuck about AE and had all of cannor be PISSED at me, but they were too scared to even attempt to form a coalition despite everyone from Lorent to Marrhold having like -300 relations with me from AE

Absolute powerhouse

>>2170770
>change spell to the one that raises SoL
>pass healthcare
>1 Ranch for some Meat and Cloth
>Meat goes in the Feeder for Magical Ingredients
>Ingredients go back in the Ranch for more Meat
>Ingredients go in Tower for Magical Essence, which be used as heating
>almost 10 SoL, no Starvation
>mortality still higher than Birthrate
No, seriously.

>>2170762
the consequences of not hiding your powerlevel because you wanted to larp as nazi elves

>>2171218
Why are they in the middle of a frozen wasteland?

>>2170977
>Nimscodd nowhere on the list
>K*b*lds #3
Gnome-bros...

>>2171225
the only good nazi is a freezing to death nazi.

>>2171100
Is there supposed to be something going on with that offmap island?

>>2171240
Yes.

>>2171241
okay, thanks

>>2171225
mistakes were made

>>2171241
Like what?

>>2171251
They're tight-lipped about it other than confirming it's supposed to be that way.

>>2171252
So, probably Precursor Elf bullshit. Or the last refuge of the Giants, somehow.

>uh, do whatever the fuck for the next 30 years

brutal mission

>>2171258
the north connects to the south through shenanigans

>>2171191
>No, seriously.
By that point, your net pop should be only very slightly decaying, so you got some time to get Lorent (or someone else) to support you against other colonizers. The RNG is getting them to do it for "regime change in xxx" rather than "become their puppet", idk what makes the AI prefer one or the other.

Are any of the Aelnar ruinborn interesting or are they just wait til you get fucked by colonizers simulation

>>2171267
Who says it's not a donut world?

>>2171286
Taychend is cool

>>2171286
Ameion, Taychend, Eodrand, Gemradcurt

>>2171286
You should be able to contend with colonizers as most of the one with an MT.

>>2171286
>get fucked by colonizers simulation
Unless you're playing a migratory tribe you should have your home region unified by the time they come, and most of the ruinborn start with or can easily get feudalism and then dev for renaissance. And adventurer countries are more dangerous than colonizers because they're not an ocean away and have huge force limits

why do people praise kobolds
this shit is boring as fuck

>>2171324
most kobold enjoyers are troons
be a man and play gnomes or reveria

>>2171325
does being a troon stop you from staring at the wall until your truce expires with the 2 nations you can actually beat and/or any of the civilzed nations around you take your cores (directly or indirectly)

Why is Aelantir nothing but elves, anyway? Not even any giantkin or kobolds or whatever? I know humans first appear in Bulwar, but surely there would have been some slaves the Precursors took that became free following the collapse of their owners' civilization.

>>2171324
I think their early game is great, you're monsters surrounded on all sides by stronger enemies with no friends and your only hope is your insane attrition rates

after that though they get pretty generic and become stronger than everyone else, and your MT tells you to colonize half the planet and conquer the other half

Best to just shut it off by 1600

>>2171336
I dont think the Precursors even bothered enslaving humans, especially since humans were on the doorstep of the dwarf empire and they probably didnt want trouble after getting their asses kicked the first time

>kobolds
theres no kobolds because kobolds arent native to the continent

>giantkin
see above, giantkin were all across the ocean and fled further inward after the fall of the giants

>>2171336
Insya (Australia island) is where the precursors fucked around and did experiments, there's kobolds and trolls and robots there

how do i make it even more insane
doubt the ai can handle all of these modifiers though

Can Black Doctrine just spawn anywhere?

>>2171480
i think it requires having a witch-king ruler as one of the prerequisites?

>>2171480
Yeah, all you need is a Witch King

Kinda kino that I ended on a ruler named Arosha

>>2171225
they let Elissa drunk drive the flying city right after getting curbstomped by the Trollsbay nations

it uhhh... it didn't go well

>>2171261
Silverforge has a mission where you have to wait until the final institution is unlocked which means your average player has to wait for like 200 years to finish it

>>2171620
There's something I don't exactly get in the lore (inb4 "it's normal, it's half-assed bullshit"). Venail is probably the first nation to start resettling, circa, what, 1480-1500? Vic3 starts probably right after the flying citadel crash in the wastes, in 1820.
That's about 320 years for "they settle, the rianvisa happens, they commit unspeakable crimes -nvm all the nations that do worse-, and the other cannorians & colonizers curbstomp them". With the rianvisa happening, what, 30 or 40 years after they start settling, at worst, so circa 1550? Post-rianvisa Aelnar goes on a bender from 1550 to 1800, and it's only at that point that the rest of the world starts giving a fuck?

Older screenshot. Urviksten > Ebonmarch > Blacked Castanor is a pretty fun playthrough.

>>2171625
they lost the big island during the Rianvisa to a combo of orcish slave revolts and a lorentish invasion.

then the Trollsbay nations found out about the whole "kill everyone who isn't an elf" thing and jumped them alongside the ruinborn. during this war lorent shows up again and assrapes Aelnar leading to Elissa flying away in her city which was the only thing they couldn't take.

so basically Aelnar's history is just Rianvisa (which lasted decades btw) > Lorent jumps them > Trollsbay war > Lorent jumps them > like 200 years of seething in a floating city > crashes in cursed glacier > presumably gets no diffed by the gnomes

>>2171630
>like 200 years of seething in a floating city
That's hella stupid, but ok.

>>2171694
It's a fantasy setting, you're not supposed to care about practicality or reasonability apparently.

>>2171698
It's a shame Vicky 3 physically cannot represent a floating city because Elf Columbia would go hard as fuck.
REJOICE, FOR DEATH HAS NO STING cries the automaton in the shape of an exaggerated Aldarian Seawatcher as it fires whatever the Anbennar equivalent of a gatling gun is at you

Previous Thread
>>2143842
Add this on the op from nowon

alternative timeline where Rogier is not a homo with a racemixing fetish

>>2171788
Rogier the young owl is the son of Lothane Bluetusk, not Rogier the exiled

>>2171794
Rogier the exiled is the one who had a gay lover from Verne, recognized Lothane as a true Silmuna and named him his heir

>>2171694
To be fair. Those same elves spent a lot longer seething on a small island off the coast of Lorent. 200 years is nothing to them.

>>2171811
they were also seething for 1000 years on boats

>>2171797
Escann is a cursed land. Filled with gay faggots, bitch-made orcs, cowards, evil mages, evil necromancers, Italians and cocksucking vampires and it spawns and converts to the worst religion imaginable.

>>2171797
Must have really ruined it for any remaining Moon Party loyalists still kicking round in the empire. You maintain loyalty to the fallen cause of your ancestors... and he's green now.

>>2171828
Elikhand is cool though.

>>2171841
Adenica is cool too

>>2171847
sorry chud xorin died for these lands to be a social democratic paradise, now every MT will tell you that corin taught you that green pole is for bouncing on

>>2171852
>he doesn't know Adenica accepts Orcs too

>accept orcs for that 10% goods produced
>get tons of free dev from orcish refugees because everyone else purges them
chuds hate this trick.

The serpentspine must be purged of orcs and goblins

and dwarves

this message brought to you by the dark and magmascales

>>2171857
So? Teaching orcs chivalry and how to stomp on corinites is based.

man i fucking hate how retarded the AI is
gave them custom buffs and shit but that doesn't fucking matter when they declare war against some random fuckass state across the fucking ocean without actually sending any troops or fleets

Its like that Bohemian mission that used to be in base only I don't have to deal with most of Europe in a coalition against me

>>2171916
Have you tried xorme AI?

>>2171935
yeah, game crashes whenever i try to colonize :(

>>2171936
Have you installed the compatibility patch?

>>2171916
>when they declare war against some random fuckass state across the fucking ocean without actually sending any troops or fleets
That's just an eu4 problem in general, either they don't commit whatsoever to a foreign conflict or they send their entire army over there at the expense of the home front

>>2171937
yeah, it's likely to be a compatibility issue with some other anbennar expansion mods that i have

>>2171867
>leave one orc OPM alive
>purge greenskins for decades
>all the refugees head to the OPM
>annex them and complete the final solution to the orcish question
>free 60+ dev province

>>2171987
Wouldn't expelling be better for this?

>>2171929
Isn't having electors as vassals bad for imperial authority?

>>2172025
It is, that's why the buffs are there, to offset the debuffs

>>2172029
Oh I missed that, suppose it cuts around even

>>2171828
>italians
lel

Playing as Shazstundihr rn
Comfy
I hope I'll get some reform or modifier so that the Bulwari faiths would not affect religious unity?

Huh. I always thought the Orcs=black people thing was just a meme.

>>2172179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpSw3gwdF5c

I've never played in the EoA before, going for Beepeck and gonna colonize the halflings in the south of Sarhal. Any tips? I'm planning on trying to elect a new emperor each time to keep them from passing all the reforms

>>2172179
It varies across works, but orcs are pretty black-coded in this setting. Collapse of Escanni society by their mass influx, large scale enslavement, all the orc-human race mixing, etc.
I'm honestly not even sure what the actual black people are supposed to be like in this game. I've only played Duwarkani down there and they're just more Egyptians

>>2172485
Egyptians are black, we wuz kangs

>>2172485
>m honestly not even sure what the actual black people are supposed to be
It's the black hobbits

>>2172485
>Collapse of Escanni society by their mass influx, large scale enslavement, all the orc-human race mixing, etc.
Are you anons retarded

Soooo...

Will there be an Anbennar for EU5?

>>2172516
In development

>>2172490
>black hobbits
Aren't those meant to be pygmys? They all seem to have a mission tree though so I guess I'll try one of them out for my next run.

>>2171852
then why does Wyvernheart and Esthil, two nations that are extremely devout corinites, ens up killing every orc they get their hands on? check. mate. Regent cuck

>>2171828
Yeah no, there's also Marrhold and they have G R I F F O N S and they live in a dwarven (and the dwarves are even cool with it).
In Vic3 timeline they are even supposed to be absolute monarchy chudcels.

>>2172516
Day one release.

>>2172586
>dwarves can remember the names and history of holds that died like 6000 years ago
>have no idea what hold used to be where Marrhold is

>>2172590
It was called Ânumdihr, but the dwarves jobbed to griffons and the hold stayed abandoned until alenic chads showed up and tamed them.
No wonder dwarves pretend to forget this KWAB moment.

>>2172539
>wow look followers of that religion don't give about its rules and ignore the aspects that are inconvenient to them
>that means that those aspects are not legitimate
Is it your first day on earth? People have been twisting the meanings of religion how they like while still pretending to be zealots for ages

the idea that Corin is the literal devil does make a lot of sense when you look at which nations canonically ended up going Corinite
I mean we got
>literal nazis
>necromancers that doom everyone into an eternity of torture because it's cheaper than paying people
>Corins number 1 slavery enjoyers
>people who will burn you alive because you started your Corin prayer 1 second to late

look I'm not saying Corin is evil just that most of her followers seem to be

>>2172650
don't forget
>cannorian gnolls mass convert to corinism because they see Corin as a human xhazobine

>>2171937
>>2171941
yeah, disabling dwarven knowledge fixed the colonization crashes

>>2172650
Who are the literal nazis though

>>2172674
nta but the Wyvenheart requires you to culture convert all of Escann into your own culture, disables accepting cultures and the events that occasionally happen make it quite clear that the people who resist conforming to your rule are not having a pleasant time

>>2172692
Yeah but the whole orc mutant stuff kinda overshadows the nazi stuff
Although idk, I haven't played them

>>2172704
It starts with orcs because they're plentiful and no one likes them so they get to fix both the werewolf and orc problems at the same time. After a while, it becomes clear they're not above using humans.

>>2171307
Yeah I specifically meant the migratory ones in North Aelantir, sorry
Tried them out and I was feeling nice until the spawnables arrived and decided I was no longer allowed to exist

>>2172650
Corinism is the perfect example of when a “hold hands and sing kumbaya” religion is manipulated by bad actors

>>2172799
play the migratory ones in south aelantir, they explore ruins and then unite into their formable, very few adventurer spawnables down there compared to the north

>>2172803
It's the Effelai tribes to be specific, they're a recent addition (last year I think) and have very unique gameplay as a result

>>2172799
yeah it's kinda bullshit when you're just minding your own business as a native tribe/other colonizer, and then suddenly some random adventuring fucks with a 25k stack appears next to your ass

This was a stupid un-needed nerf. AI Nuugdan never really did anything anyway, now they start tiny and the AI never gets the event that integrates/vassalizes the other steppe nations

>>2172932
I want to try nuugdan, which of the balkanized mongol tribes do I need to start as?

>>2172948
Nuugdan. Humiliate the guy you start at war with, it integrates them, and vassalizes the other guys, then you go from there. Do NOT form Daxugo until you've unified Yanshen (China), and abuse the fact that you are a horde and nobody outside China can see you to take as much as possible

>>2172967
Thanks, I'll give it a go after my Shaz run

>>2172802
>Goddess of war
>formerly Satan
>“hold hands and sing kumbaya” religion
It was never going to be peaceful

>>2172650
desu all of that would have happened without corinite forming, it just gave them the cbs they would have manufactured anyway

>>2171307
had a friend rage quit an mp game because Effelai can force spawn separatist rebels on every single province of your colonial nations (even when truced) as well as spawning troops in with mage generals and it's in the depths of the jungle. It was like america fighting in veitnam.

>>2172967
>>2172981
you can also abuse the raze + religious ideas to culture convert a shit ton of the yan, leave like 6 provinces of each culture so you will deal with less rebels when you get the daxugo disaster

Also stay a horde longer to just mop up northern harles and so you can get horde ideas bc horde + aristo = god cav

bros i think ive run out of interesting mts to play

>>2172485
the castanorians

Gnomes = jews.
>(((technocracy)))
I see through your tricks you little bastards

>>2172932
It ruined the lore of Nuugdan Tsarai too. The land to the north was supposed to be barely populated wasteland populated by monsters that would steal your face if they saw you (which is why the birdriders wear masks). Now apparently there are just loads of tribes roughly as develop and powerful as you living there somehow.

>>2168497
Do discord trannies still ban you if you mention the inevitable orc rape committed during the Greentide?

>>2173323
Play Vandipha

>>2173411
whats their deal

>Major coronite followers joining the RC side of the league war
What the fuck is their problem

>>2173463
wanna see the world burn

Does Corintar have anything going for them past the League war or does it just fall off from there

>>2173468
thats pretty much it as far as global religious mechanics for them

after that youre just doing your MTs

>>2173376
My image of gnomes will never recover after Arcanum

>>2173427
nta but if I'm not mistaken they are an opm harimari island off the coast of sarhal who conquer and buckbreak the ngubus and build raj 2.0 but in sarhal

>>2173482
I meant more the narrative of the rest of their tree and such

>>2173323
Post the MT's you've played

>>2173488
>conquer and buckbreak the ngubus
East Sarhali are meant to be east africans, do they'd br Ayabos no Ngubus

>>2173491
iirc, Corintar is going to be reworked sometime in the future.

>>2173494
not*

>>2173496
I see, I'll shelf them for now then

how do you not lose at kheterata

>>2173509
Merc up

how do you not lose at zokka

>>2173376
>dwarves run the banks
>dwarfs are so greedy they almost kill their own nations
>dwarves commit genocide to reclaim the land that was promised to them 6000 years ago
hmm...

>>2173376
>t. Shmuelgar Goldbeard LXXXVIII
Unrelated, but did you know that speculations on why 30% of Escann's wealth lost during the War of Consolidation is now sititing on an Asra Bank offshore account or why a certain company is called Black"""Rock"""" are both anti-dwarfism gnollwhistles? The more you know.

>>2173537
git gud

>>2173509
>group up your army
>buy a merc
>morale advisor

>>2173546
Odval Tungr is just straight up Israel, they puppet their human republic ally and debt trap other nations to make them puppets too

>>2173537
Zokka imo is the easiest of the big blob countries and I only had one challenging war in my campaign with them (the first war vs the sun elf hugbox). You have a good army with good manpower, good blobbing ideas, and unlike a lot of similar countries there's no disaster to ruin your campaign.

Kill Jadd and do your initial few missions then look to attack Sareyand ASAP. Even if you're heavily outnumbered you should be able to win by peaceing everyone else out quickly. Make sure you take their gold mine which will cover your economy for a while.Then just continue blobbing over the rest of Bulwar whenever truces run out. Don't worry about coalitions, just make sure you keep juggling truces so no big one can actually form. Once you've consolidated Bulwar you should be strong enough to just roll over the rest of your missions relatively easily, the only thing you need to watch out for is again preventing big coalitions from forming by juggling truces. If you fuck up though it's not that bad, just attack some tiny coalition country close to you, occupy them, and then peace them out by giving them gold and you should be able to "win" even massive coalition wars with ease.

Your ideas should be Admin/Offensive/Diplo, in that order, no exceptions. That's basically what you need for every blob campaign by the way. After that you probably want Religious/Trade/Quantity in some order. Religious to help deal with rebels, Trade for econ, and Quantity so that you can hit hegemon easily. You could maybe replace Quantity with Influence instead since you get big vassals and it still might give you enough force limit, I'm not sure.

For estates make sure you give the tribes all the manpower stuff ASAP. When you get your two special estates later in the mission tree just give them whatever, they're pretty easy to manage and just have a lot of strong bonuses.

Also make sure you raze every single province (except for that first gold mine).

>>2173593
Can't wait for Rubyhold MT, it will be just that times ten. Are you ready for the ZOG World Order?

>>2173595
Oh yeah and the religion mechanics, personally I thought this was the only shitty part of the campaign. The important thing is making sure you make each ruler Xhazobain or whatever it's called as soon as possible. This means you should wait on the "initiate cult" button (it's in the state menu) until you actually need the religious power, either for that decision or for some mission. Honestly I would recommend just reloading whenever a ruler dies young just because it really sucks having to do the ritual over and over again cause your king died at 40 or whatever.

>>2173509
I've done that once, don't remember how. Shouldn't be too hard. Booted them up out of curiosity, here's my strat for the first attempt:

>have your northern army stand by
>put the preset general on the southern army and have him march to the enemy lvl 2 fort
>avoid fighting the enemy army on the way, at least don't take an engagement where you'd take the river crossing penalty
>in my case, the AI opted for a siege race and I respond by splitting carpet siege from the southern army
>scripted gnoll war happens but I can mostly ignore them due to a coastal fort and naval supremacy
>infuriatingly, the AI just barely wins the siege race, forcing me to stackwipe their army and sige back my capital (otherwise there would be enough warscore for the scripted peacedeal)
>for an "optimal" run this would be a restart, but I can pay 150 birdmana to remove most of the war exhaustion and focus on the gnolls who are a pushover due to their inferior tech and lack Zokka-like 10-shock War Wizard

General tips/starting moves:
Hire a Morale or Discipline advisor depending who's available at lvl 1
Enact Defensive Edict on your capital state
send one diplomat to spy on Nirat, use rest to improve relations with rivals of Elizna (if they have less than two that aren't you or a monstrous nation, improve relations with their allies - it won't make them dishonor on its own, but may tip the scales if they have loans/different war to worry about)

>>2173493
Anything in Sarhal or South Aelantir

>>2173618
Have you played that one Mengi nation with a mission tree? (Arguably the not-Ethiopia of Halann, but I also manage to get some Poland vibes from their initial political situation, specifically the 1138–1320 Feudal fragmentation.)

incredibly dwarven Serpentspine this run

>>2173823
are you doing a no hold restoration run or something

Oh, why thank you!

>>2173828
for some reason I decided to finish my mission tree first

>>2173595
it’s the killing jadd part i’m stuck on
every time i try i lose the initial war because the elves can just dance around my troops and i can’t figure out how to force a favorable confrontation

>>2173860
stack your entire army together and hire a mercenary with them too, get a morale or discipline advisor. sell titles and raid coasts for cash

>>2173860
Bait his army with one stack then reinforce. If you win a battle against the army lead by Jaddar with an army lead by Zokka you automatically annex 90% of his land and then can just clean up.

And thus the Silmunas (the no green skin branch) are back in charge. Thank you Wex for falling for the Corinite meme.
You get some absoutely cracked cavalry as Adenica, I haven't even popped most of my missions since I want to go for Mortal Paragon and I was still wrecking wexonards and grombari orcs while being outnumbered. In other news, something's going incredibly wrong in the serpentspine as both Tarakar and Ovdal Lodhum are worshiping the Rune Father while the Obsidian Legion is nowhere to be seen.

the new magic system is pretty good

>>2173946
>worshiping the Rune Father while the Obsidian Legion is nowhere to be seen

Any natives to the serpentspine get a decently high rng event to convert to runefather

>>2173823
I had the exact opposite thing happen when I played Seghdihr: the entirety of Western serpenspine was green or black except for my middle dwarovar: Shattered crown controlling Amldihr and surroundings, Grombar invaded Krakhduvror's mountain, Snotfinger, Mountainshark and Railskurker thriving, and the serpentsreach was divided between Masked butchers and Thieving arrow.
And on top of that orcs won in Escann in that run

Nu magic is pretty nutty

>>2174049
Is this on gitlab or in the most recent workshop update?

>>2174060
gitlab

magic got totally overhauled with new spells and special mega projects for your estates

and now magic costs mana(like magic mana) instead of gold or ruler mana

>>2174083
Holy shit that's fucking badass, I love playing mage nations so that's gotta be a next playthrough.

>>2174094
yeah it makes magic actually feel powerful and not only used when youre rich or have tons of mana points

>>2174049
>>2174083
I read this and was excited and then you start talking about "real mana"
this update has been out for months and I've been playing it on

>>2174114
wait, youve been playing with the updated magic and you just didnt realize?

>>2174137
well yeah
I just grabbed the latest github version

How did a major nation in notIndia get cleared to be named Sir

>>2174232
The sir meme only really blew up in the last year or two I believe. Maybe it got approved before that or the devs just weren't aware of it.

>>2173597
Rubyhold MT will be kino, since per national ideas they're fighting a shadow war with Redglades for influence over Lorent.

Is there anything to do in the EU4 mod, or is it just blobbing?

>>2174380
For most of them it's just blobbing with a storyline and speedbumps thrown in.

>>2174380
>Is there anything to do in the EU4, or is it just blobbing?
Anbennar is better than vanilla, but a lot of it is still just bobbing

>>2174433
Oh well, that's a shame. maybe the V3 mod will be better.

>>2174438
At the end of the day EU4 is all about blobbing and unless you pull some magic like in MEIOU that can't be changed.

>>2174444
Yeah, I know. All the internal management mechanics are toothless. I hope EU5 is better in that regard.

>>2174380
depends on the country. a lot of them are blobs, some are not

>>2174456
Which ones are not? Can I, like, retreat back into the mountain as kobolds never blob and have fun?

>>2174457
Don't know about the Kobolds, my ancient memories of them are that they only really need to kill the gnomes and take over part of the west coast and then they're done but I can't confirm that, it's been years. A lot of dwarf countries only conquer their own little region of the serpentspine and then stop. Depending on your definition of blob, Verkal Ozovar might not count: they have a lot of vassals but hold almost no actual territory. Uh, EoA countries often don't blob, most of the Deepwood countries only care about the Deepwood which isn't that big, Feiten's mission tree is unfinished still but they mostly just hold onto their immediate surroundings and then go full blimp jew.

>>2174461
Kobolds got a huge rework, their gimmick is conquering land to find dragons, they might as well be a WC tag because of it

>eborthil considers a war over a province two sea tiles from their capital "distant"
fuck you

>>2174462
>>2174461
Well, that didn't work, because they are now solely in the mountains in the V3 mod.

>>2174232
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhind

>>2174471
Vicky 3 canon is retarded and has a lot of stuff that mechanically can't happen in EU4.
See: Vivin Empire, Ardmiya, Lorentish and Busilari EIC expies, etc etc

>>2174585
I dont like the Vivin Empire, it really shafts Ambennar in the ass.
I also dont like how they say Gawed is almost ready to destroy Grombar and in game you get 150 infamy just to snatch 3 provinces from them?

>>2174585
>Vivin Empire
It's just Arranen puing Corvurvia with a new name
>Ardmiya
Who cares
> Lorentish and Busilari EIC expies
You can make trade companies in EU4

you know what I think is the strangest part to vic3 Canon? it's that Amldihr even exists like are you for real gnolla? are you telling me blueshield actually beats shattered crown?

>>2174651
Does Kuxhete exist in vic3?

>>2174654
Yes

>>2174662
Dilated and hrtpilled

>>2174665
Unironically, what the hell is your problem? Trying to push Kobolds=Trannies everywhere is pretty bizarre

>>2174670
Nah I just picked it up from this thread, someone was pushing it before me
Jokes aside I'd really like to have darkscales mt

>vasall I want to attack has 100% liberty desire
>oh cool I'll just wait until they rebel
>3 years later
>still at 100%
>still no rebellion
what the fuck is this

>>2174722
They never rebel in Anbennar even with strong support

>>2174651
dwarves are just built different

>>2174721
closest thing we'll ever get to darkscales is the magmascale MT in ACE

>>2174724
is this an actual feature or whats going on here

>>2174729
AI is willing to dump all its stored mil mana on stopping rebels

>>2174730
He's talking about vassal liberty desire not rebels

>>2174729
It's not an actual feature but for some reason the vassal ai in anbennar is much less prone to declare independence wars compared to vanilla

>if dwarves abandon ancestor worship for the traditional pantheon it sets off a disaster
>but if they abandon ancestor worship to worship the runefather, no one cares

lol

>>2174755
Because the Runefather is a dwarvish ancestor. Duh.

>>2174624
>you can make trade companies in EU4
But you can't make them quasi-autonomous states without client state vassal feeding shit

>>2174769
>because its not literally identical to how eu4 is mechanically it should be ignored

kill yourself

>>2174769
>But you can't make them quasi-autonomous states without client state vassal feeding shit
Yeah and that's Paradox being retarded. You can't actually make an autonomous British or Dutch EIC in vanilla either but that's still what trade companies are meant to represent.

>>2174772
It should be ignored because the V3 canon sucks. The mechanics not lining up are a bonus.

>>2174721
darkscales is permanently in development hell and is never coming out

>>2174779
>You can't actually make an autonomous British or Dutch EIC in vanilla either
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=East_India_Company

>>2174839
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Vereenigde_Oostindische_Compagnie

Is this mission just fucked if you take too long? I've tried allying all kinds of people and nothing works

>>2175053
worst case scenario just use console to finish the mission

>>2175231
Doesn't that make the results not happen?

>>2175242
yeah but you can at least bypass it to get to future missions

>>2175053
I think this mission wants you to NOT have any allies that were in the Rose Party so if you're allied to Wex or something you need to tell them to fuck off

>>2174836
guess you could say it's repping

>>2175274
It's precisely this

>>2175274
Yeah this did the trick, thanks

>>2175231
I'd rather just edit the condition in the files.

people always mention the most evil or the most good but what Nation would you say is the most morally mediocre?

are there actually backwater shitholes in Vicbennar's start, or did they roll with their retarded "the entire world is totally equally advanced at all time and every region get industrialized independently on their own"?

>>2175415
uh, most tags in anbennar I guess

most just wanna make generically tolerant empires

>>2169036
If you do it before the day tick you keep free city status. Conquering and releasing is very good cause you have the interaction to make them the special vassal type and its way cheaper.

>>2169039
Court ideas is a stupid choice for them desu. They dont need it at all.

>>2169200
Confirmed, a lot of the features of base eu5 was designed with it in mind and they were even given early access to dev the mod for it. They understand its a big draw for eu4 players.

>>2169200
It's been confirmed but it's easily YEARS away
>>2169524
It's all but confirmed because the in-game Gnoll description says that male and female Gnolls are hard to tell apart

>>2175418
>are there actually backwater shitholes in Vicbennar's start
Aelnar is because fuck you that's why

>>2175502
Why would it take that long? They're not changing the start date.

>>2175418
Are you retarded? What makes you think so? The only mostly prosperous region in the Vic3 start is Cannor (Escann and Gawed excluded). And even then they are still reeling from the fallout of the blackpowder revolution, and the revolutionary Anbennar is the likely tag to fall apart. Gawed is an industrial hellhole for most of its citizens, Escann is full of backwater tags who all fight each other, Haless is still getting fucked from the spirits chimping out and the great insoburdination, Taychendi are in a state of permanent total war, Konolkhatep is recovering from the attack of Xhazob and the Serpentspine just sucks to live in.

>>2175418
Melakmengi stands at #1 highest population of 100M and GDP, at is missing quite a few "pre-1836" technology

>>2175554
ya know, shouldn't the mengi be fucked up between the swamp trolls, pirate harpies and konolkhatep? it's weird that they all just form into their mega state but thats a lot of vic3 in general

>>2174750
even in vanilla they are unlikely to declare independence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQXl4JRAGCg&t=1279s

Hi nonnies
Looking to play an orc game, not sure who to play
Tried Frozenmaw, dislike the forced conversion memes
Looked at Masked Butcher, feels like too thematic of a campaign
Any good "true to the old ways" orcs out there?

>>2175624
Could try some forest orcs, like Silentblade

>>2175418
Aelnar because they are chuds

>>2175624
The forest orcs come in two flavors which is fey slave or industrialize and burn the forest. I think the only Escann orcs with updated content are about civilizing. Of the mountain orcs I played shattered crown but it was annoying and it might've been changed and Skewered Drake is really annoying and wants you to have vassals and doesn't let you purge because it wants you to have minorities.

dont listen to the people telling you to play in the forest, worst thing ever

>>2175698
Still better than the forbidden plains

>>2175624
Go Clouded > Unguldavor. One of the best tags in the game imo.

>>2175954
Note that they (and all the other Escanni Orcs which are getting content/reworks) are supposed to lead into picrel, which is basically the Anbennar version of the Franks using Roman symbolism

>>2175991
Oh shit, Kaztubar already has a draft? Hype

>>2175991
>and all the other Escanni Orcs which are getting content/reworks
There are 2 other orc formables planned besides Kaztubar. The Greentide (which continues the greentide duh) and Badakhan.

>>2175624
>Frozenmaw
Got a rework (Grombar tree is still unchanged) where they can only go the half orc route (it used to be a choice), the other grey orc nations get the orc route if they form Grombar

>>2175325
>https://anbennar.fandom.com/wiki/Aucanna_Silistra
Its funny what a shit leader this women actually was compared to what you can have her do in the Mission tree

>>2176004
What's Badakhan?

>>2175991
We Wuz Castanorians and shiiieet

>>2176197
Orc ewoc formable where a literal angel comes down from the celestial plane and helps orcs by guiding them

Which one works better for Reveria? integrating the little dragons or turning them into belts for my not!Vikings to wear as they spread the Gnomish agenda?

>>2176206
Kobold minorities give nice attrition and production buffs, plus they have an event where you can steal lots of gold from them

>>2175991
>"Tall"
>conquering all of cannor

>"Tolerant"
>force-converting all of cannor into half-orcs

>>2176204
They retconned the angel out of Sarhal but kept this? Lame.

>>2176231
It's not even out yet. It can get canned any moment.

>all this new anbennar content planned
>dont plan to play any of it because eu5 is just gonna be a way better game

shame

>>2176237
Honestly I don't believe half the new stuff is ever actually going to get made because EU5 is coming out . I can see progression on the EU4 version drying up in the next year if not the next few months as the devs move to the new game.

Newfag to this mod, I want to play an evil nation that genocides or loves necromancy. Preferably elf but I'm down with others.

>>2176256
venail

>>2176256
Elven Rhodesia nation?

>>2176261
Cool, thanks I'll check them out.

>>2176256
>loves necromancy
Order of Iron Sceptre or Chaingrasper.

>>2176256
>genocides
Asarta - lizardfolk that genocides humans in its region

Isagumze - humans that genocide lizardfolk in its region

Any dwarf tag - genocides orcs in the serpentspine

Azkare/Sunrise Empire - Elf ruled republic in Haless that genocides Oni's (but it's not really the focus)

Skurkoli - Ogre tag that eats everyone in Escann

Roadwarrior - orc opm that decolonizes provinces

Taychend - Ruinborn formable where you drop a nuke on cannor and create an apocalyptic event

Venail - Elf coloniser tag that turns ruinborn into living batteries and genocides everyone else

>necromancy

Order of the Iron Sceptre/Esthil - Genocides orcs and creates a post scarcity society where undead do all heavy labour

Chaingrasper - forms cult of personality around its lich ruler

>>2176262
Mugabe's Zimbabwe committed genocide on a rival tribe and shot down civilian airliners to then kill crashed passengers, Rhodesia dindu nuffin in comparison
>>2176269
Gemdarcurt is another good one

>>2176256
Luciande and Wyvernheart are both evil adventurer formables in Escann. The former is a vampire nation, the latter is heavily into necromancy

>>2176269
>>2176317
Playing Venail, not very good at the game. For now I'm just sitting tight waiting for tech. Bit worried about Lorent. Right thing to do?
>>2176319
>Rhodesia dindu nuffin in comparison
Should have done.

>>2176325
Venail's early gameplay is horribly boring. Too much waiting around doing nothing.

>>2176227
YOU VIL MARRY THE GREY ORC WIFE Part 2

>>2176325
I personally prefer to suck Lorent off so they leave me alone, but if you're a diplomatic genius you can try to get a squad together to go against them. People DO sometimes conquer a bit, and when you do eventually leave everything behind and bring all your dev over to Alenatir you'll reap the benefits

>>2176325
Pretty much. Find some friends who can help you against Lorent, ideally friends with boats. If Lorent looks weak (IE: In a war with Gawed) you can fight them, as their vassals will always be disloyal. Otherwise, chill and take techs until you get exploration ideas.

>>2176325
you have that one merchants privilege that creates heavy ships for free, use that. that's all you need to hold your ground against them if they come for you
Don't be scared of low crownland or giving out the mana privileges to the estates either

>>2175554
>we wuz wakanda, the country
Whoever designed that region needs to be thrown off a cliff

>>2175991
>slay the shadow swamp hags
This can go in a hilarious direction if Kaztubar somehow manages to find Beastbane during their monster purge.

>>2176237
>>2176255
I disagree. When EU5 comes out Anbennar for EU4 won't magically become obsolete, it's still a very solid mod with lots of content and it will take a lot of time to port it on EU5, especially given the fact that the devs will invent a lot of new stuff for it because the scope will be bigger.
I still play Elder Kings on CK2 for example, because the mod for CK3 still doesn't hold up to CK2 version even after years of the game coming out. I hope and believe that Anbennar for EU4 will keep getting updates for at least a few years

>>2176437
yeah but eu5 is actually a good framework unlike eu4

>want to play Kobolds
>Kobildzan is boring as fuck colonization
>Balrijin is impossible if the Command doesn't implode
>all the rest have generic trees
Cool

>160 year old champion of the joust finally passes away
RIP Thomas, Marrhold's finest warrior

>>2176515
I hope that we get a Wizardous Kobold nation so I can attrition and fortmaxx even harder

>>2176515
im real glad they made kobold attrition mechanics unique to the dragon coast so balrijin is fucking terrible

Silmuna dynasty good end
Yes, I will now blob into the forbidden plains so I can get the centaur tier 5 government reform and horsemaxx with no penalty.

>>2176325
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>>2176367
Ok ive got the broken coast explored, do I colonise Endrallire or build up the monarch points to get 3 colonists to use the Alariandel Impluse(-2 colonists, +150 Colonial Range)?

>>2176604
You should rush to get each Colonial Nation big enough that they start making their own colonies. Also, when adventurers spawn try to keep tabs on them so that they don't eat your Colonial Nations.

>>2176604
You get rid of Alariandel Impulse ASAP, nigga. The sole point of it is to let you discover Aelantir instantly.

>>2176604
Focus on all of the empty islands and this region. When a colonial nation appears, pick the type that gives settler growth, elves suck at colonizing by default so your CNs will have negative settler growth otherwise
>Alariandel Impluse
Get rid of it

>>2176634
>>2176688
>>2176694
If I get rid of it I will have to slowly leapfrog and colonise Endrallire to get into range. If I keep it I can skip Endrallire, land on the blood groves, then get rid of it.

>>2176709
You need to get a large colonial nation for your MT, and that'll be endraliand. Just get rid of it.

>>2176604
blobmaxx asap, kill adventurers that spawn next to you if you have the means to do so (like if they don't spawn with 30k troops while you're stuck on 15k with negative manpower)

>>2176723
>>2176727
Ok, I guess i was too focused on landing on Noruin and colonising there ASAP. I'll leapfrog through Endrallire.