Thread 2212659

DAY 3
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3450310/Europa_Universalis_V/

1.0.2 PATCH OUT
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/1-0-2-patch-notes.1868042/

>>2212660
economy section has a slider for their maintanence

KIEV edition

>>2212659 (OP)
BIG
FRENCH
COCK
are you a French lover or French hater?

>you can capture regiments and bribe them to fight for you
This is actually awesome

The military tutorial just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiFufnxIugU

K I E V
I I
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V V

>>2212671
Yes

>>2212672
>8 troops
>for a months worth of income
bruh

I'll be real with you bros, it's only 1408 and I'm already tired of taking 3 provinces, releasing 3 vassals, waiting 10 years, then annexing them...
Also the Pope keeps randomly declaring on me, not my fault the game forced me to flip Hussite or suffer massive stab hit! I'll beat your stupid papal ass any day.

everytime you post "K*ev" a child dies in Ukraine.

So is Bohemia the tutorial country this time? It seems consistently comfy without hostility.

>>2212675
mhmm chicken kievs

HOW THE FUCK DO I GET INSTITUTIONS IN SOUTH AMERICA.
Its 1537 and there are no europeans in sight and I ran out of fucking advances. I want to explore but I have zero manpower because I can't build any manpower buildings..

>>2212681
skill issue

>>2212674
what a pointless fucking video, in the early game the bigger nation wins automatically and in the late game you've snowballed so it doesn't even matter

>>2212682
everytime you post "K**v" a slavnig dies

>>2212684
its not gonna happen. people were tired of congolese villagers embracing the industrial revolution in 1605 so they nerfed non-european institution rates. rightfully so

>>2212674
I just realized I've been genociding my nobles as Muscovy.

>>2212693
qrd?

>>2212692
Then they need to fuck off with exploring costing manpower because I literally can't form the incan empire because fog of war blocks me.

>>2212694
Theres laws and privileges that grant you a higher number of Noble levies, I've stacked those modifiers thinking the Noble levies were drafted peasants lead by nobles.

Only one location left uncolonized in Timor and I am poised to get it. The Javanese menace only managed to take one location. I got all their pops they tried to send to the other location and it boosted my country a lot. I guess it made it worth the wait.

>>2212684
you don't
thank god johan nuked all the revisionist game-y nonsense from eu4

>>2212684
You can't get them until the European arrive.
Enjoy your 200 years of waiting.

Finally got meritocracy in 1507
current status of europe (absolutely nothing happened in the last 100 years)

I'm conquering you Europeans and your tricknology as Mali
it is beautiful.

do you guys have multiple stacks of standing armies by the late 1400s already or do I just keep one and levies aside?

>>2212711
I don't think they're coming.
>>2212703
Not being able to have historical Incan Empire territory because of fog of war is revisionist.

>>2212720
i wish there was a balance of power mechanic or something to stop france and spain from snowballing in early game and killing off every other european country

>>2212723
Did you get the disease yet? It happened as soon as Portugal landed in Brazil in my game

Where's the music player?

>>2212727
Johan controls the music, buddy. Not you. Capisce?

>>2212726
I haven't got any sickness just got butt fucked by a priest rebellion one time and a lot of bankruptcy for a while but now I think I'm stabilized.

Johan really took both barrels to blobbers faces with this one.

It's a Paris and London simulator. You HAVE to play tall.

>>2212732
1.0.2 already made concessions to blobbers... its over...

>>2212732
maybe it gets better with absolutism after 1600 or so
but here's the kicker
that's almsot 270 years after game start
the fuck are you doing for 270 years if you can't blob, and are landlocked so no exploration and colonization?

HOW DO I MASS UPGRADE ALREADY EXISTING BUILDINGS

>>2212741
Try to remove Nobility privileges, probably.

>>2212684
find a market that has them. Either in greenland or malaysia. I think you have plenty to do and research without them.

>>2212720
THey really need to just have the GH break up into scripted hordes.

>playing country landlocked by a dozen others
>ai still picking naval tech to research

>>2212746
how does that help with control?

btw get maritime presence in sea zones,
it's OP for proximity

anyone saved the british isles from french rule yet? the anglosaxon genocides need to be avenged

>>2212752
>letting ai do your research
why?.. its literally the easiest part of the game and the one you need to most pay attention to

>>2212723
i think you should be focusing on economy

>>2212722
Just depends on how much you can field which you can't really build for other AFAIK since it's based off of pops. By then you're probably going to be mashing 10k+ stacks into each other so it's hard to have multiple stacks, but I'd imagine you can build a professional army more around siege stacks and use the levy to fight instead.

>>2212753
it's a thing you can work towards for 270 years

>>2212757
to see how the ai handles it

>>2212723
Huh, weird. I've always seen Europe doing its thing by like 1520. I'd be interested in seeing the current situation in Europe

>>2212755
Do you just get boats and have them patrol? How to increase it?

>>2212757
to write a negative review calling the game boring later

>>2212753
Noble privileges give them power multipliers. If your Estate has more power they get a larger percentage of your country's income. If you reduce their power share that proportionally makes your crown power larger which increases your income.

>>2212726
Nevermind some "Great pestilence" event has just popped up. Even though no Europeans are in the new world.

>>2212723
Work your way up Central America

Is in heritance like CK2 where a daughter can't inherit but a grandson can?

>>2212659 (OP)
Playing as Austria and I married my son and heir to the queen of Naples. Naples is slightly stronger then me, so will I get PU’d by them or them by me automatically because they are ruled by a woman? How does this work

The game is so slow, how do I not get bored and switch counties?

>>2212773
depends on the country

cmon you piece of shit

>>2212776
By not having the attention span of a 5 year old

or playing a different game

nah i fucking cant, this is actually impossible. not only they cant be stronger (by a measure that is actually fucking broken, military power pulls number out its ass), you need to have more great power score than them which is impossible with their subjects and population.
FUCKASS GAME

>>2212773
You can change inheritance laws to all kinds of things. So it just depends on that.

>>2212768
yeah but if you have low control that doesn't matter

>>2212681
I’m playing in the HRE and going pretty ham taking provinces and not having any issues, also having vassals is cool.

Any way to flip vassal of other countries to your side?

>>2212765
yea you can set them to patrol but it's kinda buggy
you can just leave them in a sea zone (sea zones have multiple sea locations, it will raise presence in all of them even if you just leave it in 1 location)
I just have 3 fleets for each of the sea zones in the adriatic sea

>>2212780
Just take a ton of their land and make them small.

>>2212780
also im fairly certain that score check was added in today's 1.0.2 patch because few redditors cried that their personal union was taken over by france

>>2212783
I looked at it, admittedly I figured there'd be some sort of direct correlation but there isn't. Regardless crown power is basically another control multiplier. The inverse is also true, if you have high control but very low crown power it also doesn't help you much.

>>2212789
no cant do, if you take 130 provinces in france, either directly or through vassal, you win the situation and cant claim the throne anymore. i mean, you could carve few vassals out of them, but still you lose out on 2+ million pops

>>2212720
Are you joking? GROB Poland took out the teutons. France is raping everyone, the fucking Netherlands formed. The only thing I want fixed now ai-wise is timur ans the ottomans going hard as they did irl. The ottomans are so disappointing in this game.

>>2212791
>The inverse is also true
not really, control is an order of magnitude more impactful

>c*tholics keep trying to coalition my ass
>they drop random thousand man stacks around the balkans and anatolia
>clean them up and take more free land
eeyup just as allah intended I love ottoblob

>>2212770
how many dead

>>2212792
You can’t fully take advantage of those pops or lands anyways because control would abysmal. You could also release a couple vassals and give them a bunch of land so it’s not just a billion small vassals, if that’s easier to manage.

>renaissance almost over
>barely ever unlocked 1/10 of the techs
great,,,

>>2212798
claiming the throne would not annex france, it places them in personal union so control is still in Paris.

>>2212770
Disease was spreading in the new world well before anyone landed and set up a colony. There was early trade between European fishermen off the coast and the natives when it was first discovered.

>>2212799
you're not supposed to unlock them all i think, theres a strategy, you pick and choose what you think is best and you gotta stick with that.

>>2212797
1.45 million

>>2212792
>i mean, you could carve few vassals out of them, but still you lose out on 2+ million pops
So you can do it but just don’t feel like it? No point in directly annexing the land anyway you won’t have much control.

>>2212720
Nothineverhappenssissies… our response?…

Why does the emperor allow princes to consolidate and blob in the HRE? Is he retarded?

>>2212800
He’s talking about you complaining on missing out on annexing the land to make France smaller and weaker. You don’t want to directly annex it anyway. Conquer provinces from them, release as vassals, once they are sufficiently weak, claim throne.

>>2212809
I was playing as emperor but gave up because after a hundred years I’m at -2 imperial authority per month because they all consolidated and I have no way to stop them. It’s not like in eu4 where the emperor gets called into the war. All I can do it’s demand unlawful territory and take like 1 location and it costs 50-100 gold, so it’s not even worth it.

Apart from the reduction in food profuction is there any reason not to turn a town into a city?

>demand unlawful territory as emperor
>it gives me the province
So how do I make it a prince again?

>>2212816
Seconding this because I don't know how to release nations in general

So you are supposed to just wait 5 years everytime you want to declare a war? Why cant you fabricate a fucking claim, the spy network system is so worthless now

>>2212810
yeah great idea when releasing just flanders costs 170 war score, which ai will never agree to. OPMs cost around 20, rest 50. its pointless + great score does not count from subjects (a bit) but mostly from fixed kingdom rank (+100), institutions (+50), pops (+60) prestige (+20 which they keep fucking gaining while losing fights against me?) and tradition (+6 and +6 respectively and keeps rising because they keep getting fucked)
maths is just fucked, its impossible to claim the throne given how many pops and control are around paris. if anyone succeded please post screenshot, so far I have seen only frenchies winning HYW
also forgot to mention there is a limit how much you can weaken them, after that you instantly win with no benefit

>>2212822
>Why cant you fabricate a fucking claim
you can fabricate them you know...

>>2212823
Are you fucking in benzo withdrawal bro? Take the land and then release it as a custom vassal.

wait did they actually make councilors send people to the regions in a proper order for colonization instead of randomly dispersing pops all over?

>>2212826
Yeah wtf
>>2212823
Are you retarded? What we are saying is a very simple concept.

this is an unpolished gem, unlike vic3 which is actually unfixable

>>2212826
are you an imbecile, what part of the screenshot you dont understand

>>2212825
only some nations can, I think. in Italy I could fabricate against the other faction of the ghibli shit but the default seems to be you can't

>>2212822
Why do you want to go to war more then once per five years. I just go hard on my economy during that time.

>>2212822
with the deus vult advancement you can fabricate religious war CB on tags of a different religion

>>2212832
Don’t you want the PU doe? Im not sure what you’re talking about or what your issue is. I thought your point was that France is too strong to make ur PU and it’s impossible to weaken them without taking the 130 locations and winning the situation, thus not getting the PU.


So take the lands, release them as vassals. You won’t win the situation and you will weaken France sufficiently enough to PU them.

>>2212829
another fucking retard. you need to have more great power score than france, AND have more military power than them. military is non issue, score is the problem and you cant lower it because there is nothing to release near paris where majority of their pops score comes from. toulouse could be released but will lower the score by maximally 10 points which does not help at all.

>>2212838
>You won’t win the situation and you will weaken France sufficiently enough to PU them

you dont have PU CB after winning the situation, thats the problem

>>2212839
> because there is nothing to release near paris
Are you trolling or are you retarded. TAKE THE LAND IN A PEACE DEAL DIRECTLY, THEN RELEASE AS CUSTOM VASSAL ONE SECOND LATER. Nigga you can take paris then make it a CUSTOM vassal. You don’t have to release anything from France.

So, what happens if I no-CB a bank? Do I just roll up with 30k armed peasants to their headquarters in Florence? What can I even siege?

>>2212723
Can you get a town? It should allow you to build what you need.

>>2212841
Read nigger read, I said you will NOT win the situation but WILL weaken France if you conquer land and then make it custom vassals. This is your last reply because you’re actually fucking retarded.

>>2212816
>>2212821
diplomacy -> relations -> manage / create subjects

>>2212838
>So take the lands, release them as vassals
consult the screenshot >>2212823
Owner or top Overlord is England
>>2212842
NIGGA AS SOON AS I TAKE ONE MORE PROVINCE OR GIVE ONE MORE PROVINCE TO A VASSAL THE SITUATION ENDS AND I LOSE OPPORTUNITY TO PU FRANCE HOLY SHIT
holy fuck is this bread full of imbeciles or what yall cant read or what

847
>yall

>>2212828
or not

>>2212843
You have to try it and tell us if you can rob them

>>2212848
>/gsg/

>>2212848
gsg tards need not apply

The requirements to form the Netherlands are a bit lax I feel...

OTTOFAGS??

>>2212856
where's your income t. Brabanon

>>2212857
Ilkhanate shadow government pushing their candidate...

>>2212861
Going to diplomats rn to try and avert a coalition

>>2212857
Based. Ottoman ilkhanate will conquer the world. Hopefully they also converted to Greek and orthodox like they’ve been doing, to add to the based factor.

Huh. Can't rename it either

>>2212868
Good.

>irrigating the fish and wild animals to increase the food production
sasuga, Johan-san...

>>2212778
>piratesissies are going to redownload the game twice a week to get patches

This is Eurasia in 1702

>>2212874
It’s only like 15 gigs, but yeah I’m not a poor turdworlder so I just bought the game.

>>2212876
At least something happened

Checked the world map of my run since I couldn't stand it any longer.
Genoa and the Pope in Colombia, Brazil has a whole million pops and it seems Portugal didn't think to bother colonizing anywhere else. Britain is colonizing East America.
In another 20 years or so I should be able to properly interact with them, get corona, and finally some fucking institutions.
Right now I am exactly as strong as Castile in terms of tax base, number of levies, and pops. That'll stop being the case when they sneeze on me.

>>2212876
reminds me of eu3, but without bohemia blobbing everywhere

>>2212876
When the China fix comes in and Europeans are encouraged to go to Asia more, this will be great. I notice you also let Asian AI colonize though which probably makes the effects worse.

>>2212882
THE OTTOMANS ARE DOING SOMETHING OTTOMANS IN THE BALKAAAAANS ALEEEEERT

>>2212876
where is the bigger yenisei?

>>2212874
and how do you get your updates?
oh, i forgot, you must be using american internet that is delivered by pigeons so every bit is like 100 dollars

>>2212876
America and Africa
The scramble for Africa is over at this point, this is a thinly veiled V2 successor
Aragon is colonising Australia now

>>2212892
vgh, mexico grande

>>2212887
They could have if Naples and Genoa didn't blob like retards, that and the usual control implosion.

Is it worth buying the game now, or waiting for a sale? The first couple of sales (e.g. steam winter sale) are going to be pretty small discounts if pic related (vicky 3 price history) is anything to go by, but I can already get it for 20% off on cd key websites

>>2212874
Do people not use patchers?

>>2212890
i click a button on steam and it just werks

>>2212892
>>2212876
>no great britain
>no russia
>no ottomans
>no spain
>just endless france mogging europe

>>2212885
Yeah I just left it on default settings to see how bad it is

>>2212876
Europe looks fine but man... Asia is a mess
Russia forming and pushing eastwards would greatly fix it though

>>2212892
They really need to make the AI averse to making a colonial subject in an area with stuff like Malaria to fix the Congo issue. Also something to represent the fact that less valuable places aren't going to be colonized as much to keep South Africa smaller.

>>2212896
wait 3-4 months and buy it on cdkey website for -50%

>>2212885
What’s the china fix

>>2212900
There’s no excuse for no Russia and no Ottomans. Spain and Great Britain formed via lucky marriages and inheritances irl. The idea of Scotland and England becoming united requires a complete obliteration of Scotland (realistic in EU4 but not irl) or a lot of cascading events. It would be hard to realistically model this starting in 1337.

>>2212897
from a website i've never had a problem with, but feels incredibly sus to run a random exe

>>2212894
Never mind. It’s over Ottobros….. “peasant empire” the fuck nigga.

VGH... Großtoskanium...

>>2212894
We really do need ethnic and racial modifiers because the game works on the logic that whoever has the most pops is the best. South Italians need “lazy moors -50 production efficiency -2 morale -2 discipline” to properly simulate Naples irl who did nothing and just got bodied by foreign powers.

>>2212905
It is a hypothetical thing. Obviously they are going to do something in the future considering most games don't have results that are that good for China. Although, given Chinese history, it is plausible that they could have stayed in civil war for a longer amount of time.

>>2212909
How the fuck did you become so rich. Hasn’t control been cucking you out of money ? What am I doing wrong. Playing as Austria my base tax is like fucking 100 nearly the same year as you.

>>2212876
I hope China gets unified by the Cock Timmy Empire

>>2212876
>>2212892
This is really retarded
They need to sort out the lucky nations

>>2212659 (OP)
>two eu5 threads at the top(sorted by latest reply) of /vst/ with 2k replies
is it that good?
is paradox back?

>>2212876
>bulgaria

>>2212911
Naples could have been something irl if they continued to be led by good northern Europeans. But they fell to Spain and the B*urbons.

>>2212906
There is Ottomans though, they're just not strong enough to overcome christian alliances I think, and they cant seem to get any allies
They even got some locations in Italy somehow, and they did pretty well with colonizing, theyre in the pacific now

>>2212919
I'd wait for the hype to die down tbqh

>>2212876
>granada in 1702
ffs

Anyone had any multiplayer experience yet?

>>2212923
The Ottomans should be able to snowball to some extent. Irl they were powerful enough to defeat large Christian coalitions. EU4 ottoblob was too much, but this is too little.

How do roads work? Is it ok to just connect a place to a network that leads to the capital or is it better to directly build it from there to the capital in the little road builder?

>>2212919
It's got problems but I'm a Vicfag (hated EU IV) and I like it. Take that as you will.

we're getting a patch per weak according to johan
but i dont want to wait another week for this shite ai

>>2212933
I love it, I hate Victoria 2 and 3, loved eu4 but always wished it was a deeper more simulationist game rather then a boardgame, and I couldn’t be happier with victoria universalis V

>>2212936
same

should i marry my daughters to nobles or is it bad? does it make nobles more powerful?/

Please make it stop

>>2212919
It’s great if you like a slow burn and a lot of mechanics that seem hard to learn but are really common sense when they all fit together right. You just have to learn that it’s there. I’ve played paradox games for years (Vic2 was probably my favorite but I played plenty of the other ones and EU4). I like it a lot, but there are clear flaws and bugs that need to be worked out.

>>2212684
>>2212711
>>2212723
Can't believe Paradox did the "Native nations can't get reforms/institutions/real government types untill Euros arrive" shit again like in EU4

Mesoamerican and Andean civilizations at least should already have some

>>2212943
>like in EU4
what the hell are you talking about. natives in alaska could get the reinaissance within 10 years of europeans arriving in america :D

>>2212915
Build roads, pay attention to proximity cost, get shit cored, accept cultures so you can get full cores(+20% control)

>>2212931
It depends, rivers are better carriers of proximity than roads, so keep in mind that it's better to build off a river. Roads are also pretty expensive, so generally, the marginal control gain you'd get from a separate road to the capital isn't worth it over connecting to an existing network.

Why is my income so shit? I get being behind spain for trade, but I'm behind even my aztec neighbours with far fewer pops.
Is it just all the tribesmen?

>>2212946
Kamchadals aren't real natives, they can dev institutions like real countries.

Struggled to keep my economy afloat since the unpause, took me all this time to save 50 ducats for my first bulding. Actually, I spent most of my time with below 0.4 of income and then I passed a trade expedition trough parliament and it SAVED my one province ass with extra 7 trade capacity, now I finally have some reliable (albeit still a small amount of) money to build up. Pop wise I did well, from from 8k at the end of the Black Death to 30k+ now. I'm planning to conquer my first province from Cuomo just south of me.

>>2212943
Wait for the Americas DLC

>>2212943
Shut the fuck up, retard. EU4 was immersion breaking with natives having the same tech as Europe with larger armies than France in big fuck off, gay federations. Everyone was the same in that game by 1650. Might as well play civ.

>>2212947
Ahhh ok accepting cultures is def my mistake I didn’t realize it had such a big ass buff to control.

>>2212951
>I'm planning to conquer my first province from Cuomo
It's over..

was he right?

>>2212957
>too many provinces
stopped reading there. this has got to be bait

>conquer land
>my literacy drops by 5%+
fucking subhuman uneducated lombard NIGGERS
I MUST RESEARCH

>>2212957
No. The only problem is the complete lack of DROMONS and GREEK FIRE

>>2212957
>things don't happen instantly therefore bad
LOL

>>2212943
You can get legalism via the Aztec religious reforms. If you play as one of the other Mesoamericans it'll spread to you eventually.

>>2212943
they couldnt in EU3 either? you had to wait until a european nation bordered you, westernize and then you'd be able to get decent government types

>Playing Poland
>sign union pact with Hungary early game, think nothing of it
>my king is only pumping out daughters
>wife dies, can't remarry because he's mourning
>start to panic
>finally able to marry and get a genius male heir
>excited for back-to-back great rulers
>little fucking twerp dies of a cold at age 14 when near max stats
>okay well there's still time for another o-
>your king has been executed by the Tatar khan
>I'm not even at war with them
>become junior partner in a union with Hungary
>their base 20's stat dipshit frenchie Valois mongo king immediately gives my nobles multiple income destroying privileges that are impossible for me to revoke
>economy fucking plummets
>also lose my union with Halych
I have not seethed like this in quite a while but this game is fun as fuck nonetheless. These Magyar fucks will rue this day.

>>2212951
I dunno how people have the patience to play an OPM in this game. Everything is such a slow burn. Even if you build a building with that money you won’t even get what you spent on it back in returns for like 50 years

>>2212957
No, he's retarded and should go back to playing mission universalis 4 and visual of novel 4

>>2212957
>automation is a flaw, not a success
it's training wheels for new players

Are we really going to have a new thread every fucking day? Day 4567 thread in a few years is it? You fucking dorks.

>>2212957
The game is very comfy to play and that is what matter above all. It is not some metafag slavery hell like every other Paradox game. It is a lot more realistic because of this too.

Is it worth developing goods in areas with zero control? Like do I still have cases to those goods in my country/market? For example if I build a boom manufacture in a no control area do I still get the same anoint of goods, just no monies? Wondering cause I was thinking about building a bunch of farms in a shitty no control area.

>>2212965
that's literally what happened irl
casimir the great died sonless and louis the hungarian became king
he was also sonless so his daughter jadwiga became the king and she married jogaila, that's how the polish-lithuanian union began

>>2212971
>You fucking dorks
Please do not call me a dork, I will get a boner.

>>2212971
Why not? That would be soulful.

Imagine an Europe without potatoes
This mapmode is cursed and im always afraid to use it

>>2212972
100% agree with this. I hated how eu4 became metaslop and the AI ottomans and French and Austrian were OP with all their gamey modifiers that you kind of have to be a meta fag to beat them if you aren’t an OP place.

I missed sliders.

>>2212971
woman coded post. please be my gf

>>2212965
> your king has been executed by the Tatar khan
lol wtf how does this happen? And can I play a tatar khan and kill kangs?

>>2212976
I did appreciate the irony of it all. Shoulda never signed that thing!
>>2212984
I'm convinced it was a glitch or just a mis-labeled death by natural causes unless there's some way for them to use an espionage action to kidnap a foreign ruler that I'm unaware of.

>queen of naples
>royal marriage with hungary
>my son is also the son of the king of hungary
>hungary is still set to be inherited by poland via union of crowns
how the fuck do I fix this

Does anybody know how counting houses work? I was told to build them in my provinces for a big bonus in tax, but in the tooltips all it seems they do is increase crown power in the location. I don't see what benefit that would have unless crown power as a modifier is 1:1 with control when applied to a specific location.

but is your culture influential bro?

Shit

Hungary and Poland be like "if we're still single at 30 let's marry eachother"

I've spent 25 fucking hours in this game

I just reached 1400.

>>2212972
Ehhh, it's less comfy if you're anywhere near France

Wdhere is the Vic2-style pop screen again? I can't find it

>>2212993
Made me lol

>>2212988
crown power= more control = more tax

>>2212993
~5 years of fertility left for the woman

>>2212966
Ngl, playing as an OPM with decent protection from the HRE, the Swiss Confederation and other allies is like starting a game in observation mode with extra steps. On the other hand, I can fool around a bit to test some mechanics.

>>2212876
It's really annoying to see no Russian country ever come out on top because it means Siberia never gets colonised.
Just give it a few patches and I know Johan will capitulate to the railroadfags. Hopefully.

>>2212949
Dunno lol. Best I can do is show you my shit and hope it's useful to you.
https://litter.catbox.moe/b4st70.zip

Create your own BBC feature when?

>>2212990
How? Disease?

>>2212876
what the hell is going on in kyiv

>>2212924
>>2212915
my tax base is still mostly shit everywhere
it's just florence alone raking in 200+ and pisa, siena, lucca, bologna

>>2213001
railroadKINGs*

>>2212998
Does it though? Like I'm not calling you a liar I just want to understand it. When I was over 25% national crown power I didn't see any scaling modifiers up for local control, though maybe I just missed them. Because right now the only thing I can think these buildings will do is increase the national power of the crown, which is good but I don't see how it translates to me being able to tax that specific town/city more, unless I were under 25 crown power and suffering penalties, which I'm not.

>>2212975
>For example if I build a boom manufacture in a no control area do I still get the same anoint of goods, just no monies?
Yep. The estates gobble up that cash instead but the goods are still produced.

>>2213007
game over?

>>2213005
>>2213007

>>2213006
their color makes me think that they're digging out a new sea

>>2212990
My first England run I lost 330k to smallpox before the plague even started, went down to 1.8million after the plague, but my second run I got it closer to 2million

>>2212987
does no one know how this works?
is the mechanic somehow bugged?

>vassals immediately got themselves into a civil war
What a bunch of morons.

is there a way i can reduce a countries opinion of another other than the spy action? castile allied with me as england for some reason but wont stop sucking france's dick enough to help me in the war

>>2213014
Oh, you're the guy playing the new world country.
Did EU4 actually model the old world plagues wiping out the natives? I don't think I ever played as them.

Do you just look at the map and see some countries and think, surely paradox never intended for anyone to play as these dudes? Has anyone ever played as the Jalayirids?

>>2213008
and I forgot to mention 2 of my crown reforms
Dynastic Signoria -10% estate enrichment
Formalized Scales, Weights and Measures -10% estate enrichment and +10% tax efficiency
I think those modifiers make me earn a ton

Fuck it. I'm going in debug mode to buff russia and ottomans. Consider it "lucky nations - DIY edition"

>>2213007
>>2212990
Wasn't there also a giant outbreak of disease in the New World just before Columbus arrived? I've heard that one of the reasons it was so easy for Europeans to colonize the continent was that it had just been massively depopulated.

>>2213022
Who the absolute fuck is going to play any of the pacific island nations

There is quite literally nothing to do. Nothing. It's funny

why isn't paradox more friendly to free to play gamers... put fucking patches up for direct download somewhere

When do you guys get Meritocracy in Europe?
Between 1450-1500 Genoa introduced it for us.

>>2213024
enjoy your Orthodox Ottoman-Russia union

>>2213027
Why should they care about freeloaders?

>>2213030
We are people too

Xorme is out - anyone tested it? Supposedly fixes the nothingburger timelapses

>>2213031
No you aren't.

>>2213022
Wehale but I actually played as them and am having fun minus not being able to pick a Buddhist sect.

>>2213031
>poor people are human beings
kek

>>2213013
I'm still left with about 2 million pops. Honestly I expected to lose around 90% of my pops rather than maybe 60
Definitely recoverable
>>2213021
I'm one of two. The other guy is doing much better
You get all of the old world diseases at the same time under a new world specific disease called "the great pestilence".

>>2213025
Just after. Basically all of the old world plagues spread through the continent at the same time and wiped out around 90% of the natives across the entire continent

At what point do I create a new market? I'm playing Brandenburg and am in the Lübeck and Praha markets with access in the 60s-80s. I own roughly the Brandenburg and Pomerania areas.

>>2213029
>Orthodox Ottoman-Russia union
Kyiev bros your response?
>hold on we gotta write it

>>2212972
This. I actually enjoy playing tall and working on forming my country. And expanding feels more challenging. Playing tall in EU4 was so boring and lame.

>>2213031
Post a picture of your hand NOW

>>2213036
>>2213034
I could afford it
But I won't pay for a video game

>>2213033
I really doubt modders have made anything meaningful in this amount of time. Even if they were allowed to work beforehand, I don't think Paradox wouldn't just take their AI fixes.

>>2212923
Ottos in EU5 get cucked because the Mamluks are too stable

>>2213008
Thank you thank you, I was very curious as to why im still a broke bum and I’m only like 30 years behind you.

>>2213024
I've actually been trying that
given them cash, stability, prestige etc doesn't seem to really do anything

How do I revoke privileges from the lazy useless welfare nigger class aka the nobles. It’s like -140 stability. What’s the trick?

>>2213044
fuck the Mamluks, Ottobros can't even beat Eretna

>>2213037
>Just after. Basically all of the old world plagues spread through the continent at the same time and wiped out around 90% of the natives across the entire continent
I had heard there was one beforehand and that it led to, among other things, the collapse of Cahokia.

>>2213047
>>2213012
Sweet thanks, did the tutorial and read all that shit but forgot because It’s information overload.

Rundown of the AI

france: warmonger with god like powers

portugal: destroyed 100% of the time

yuan: explodes into permanent civil wars by 1400

spain: No

russia: No

ottomans: No

colonisation: Fucked

Everywhere else: Nothing. Ever. Happens.

france took this for some reason

remember that world of warcraft (jihan's favourite game) was RUINED by fan-suggested 'QoL fixes' which rettid have now made themselves the arbiters of

>>2213012
>Yep. The estates gobble up that cash
Nope. 0 control = 0 ducats to anyone.

>>2213049
you dont

until absolutism

>>2213049
I think removing the laws that favor them via parliaments helps lower the stability loss, because they lose power. Then privilege removal goes down easier.

>>2213055
Literally everyone is taking pieces of north Italy

should you join the reformation?
if so, which one of the faiths and why?
will clergy tax skyrocket my economy?

>>2213062
Yeah did 2 games for 100 years and I kept seeing France, Hungary, Naples there every game.

>>2213052
Quite possibly, but the cahokia are obviously very far removed from columbus

>>2213057
WoW was ruined by Blizzard the moment they shat out TBC
>retcons high elves to make a horde race for the asian market

remember that world of warcraft (johan's favourite game) was RUINED by fan-suggested 'QoL fixes' which rettid have now made themselves the arbiters of

>>2213062
isn't that historically accurate?

>>2213069
Yes. The Italian Wars were fought because of this.

>>2213067
>retcons high elves
it was draenei that got retconned
blood elves replaced high elves in TFT

>>2213070
Wasn’t that over Naples inheritance o algo

>>2213049
I got those bitches down to 5% and no privileges.
Give more privileges to the other estates and get crown poer and -revoke cost modifiers. You'll still need to eat a lot of stability but stability is a currency and you have to use it

>>2213072
>blood elves replaced high elves in TFT
only the ones who followed kaelthas became blood elves

is this the shittiest nation in the game?
>2k pops
>in the middle of nowhere
>culture and religion only exists here
>capital has stone as RGO, the other island that can make food has barely anyone on it

Victorian Era mod when?

>>2213055
france took this in my game somehow

>>2213077
>Yap

>>2213066
It's been a long time, but my memory of the situation was that there was a giant plague that depopulated most of the continent and destroyed what little civilization existed north of Mexico and the population had still not recovered by the time Europeans showed up.

>>2212814
Cost? Food supply?

It's Imperatoria Victorialis out here.

>>2213077
lol literally dirt hut living rock collector brownoids.

>>2213076
iirc all the blood elves in TBC are former followers of kael'thas
there are also still high elves aligned with the alliance but only a handful, and for years they still used retextured night elf models that looked like total dogshit

tbc rocked it was wotlk where things began to tank (really it was auto-dungeon finder)

>My most profitable trades as Milan is selling rice
risotto goes hard ig

>>2213068
Reddit was literally made as a site to manufacture consensus. Whenever fags broke into companies and demanded dumbing down, censorship, rejection of the core audience, appealing to "modern audiences", etc. they likely used the subreddit to support it. The site even insidiously claims to be the frontpage of the internet. The sooner more companies move past reddit the better.

>>2212723
actually really god run, but how the fuck did you survive the great pestilence?
Only reason I haven't tried the New World is because of that.

>>2213077
no you have access to rich malaysian markets, look east where i live, samoan island

>>2213074
It was generally for influence in Italy generally.

>>2213093
Generally?

>>2213092
samoa at least has 40k pops at game start, yap is just pathetic

>King produces 3 daughters
>Crown goes to some female rurikid upon his death honestly I lost count of the amount of femoids at this point already
>This queen proceeds to produce 3 more female heirs
>Rurikid dynasty loses the crown of Moscow upon her death
>But now I own the entirety of Eastern Europe under union somehow.
Fucking girl power I guess holy shit. Go get them queens.

>>2212322
7 years after, beginning to establish production chain economy
im gonna fuck europeans up when they begin to colonize, definitely

this is so much better than starting with everything unlocked and available, you have no idea

>>2213097
Hot

I think I colonized this island too early
it gave it to me instantly, possibly because the religion and culture is the same as my own (Ryukyuan)
but the island has no food and there is no way for me to ever build a fishing village there on an income of 0.14 ducats at best and my loans max out at 30 ducats (I'd need 50 for a village)
there are 24,000 tribesmen on this island doing nothing and starving to death, how do I save them?

>>2213095
Generally speaking, my nigga, it was all general.

>>2212953
>same tech
correct, this is a valid complaint, Aztecs were very good at waterworking so maybe this should be considered?
Miitary tech was far behind and Cortes needed natives for his conquests.
>federations
it's a bit historical but annoying

>>2213096
that is their only advantage
but i have to make everything myself, i cant buy anything, no gold, instruments, iron or anything.

>Egypt gifts me a giraffe
>it immediately dies
oh, cool

>>2213054
>yuan: explodes into permanent civil wars by 1400
lore accurate? yuan fell to ming peasant revolt by 1400

>>2213102
when I tried to play Ryukyu the place stabilized after some time, but then the japanese declared war on me and fucked me up

>>2212987
>>2213017
so should I take it that no one actually understands how this shit works?

>>2213106
Typical cracker

>>2213102
Become Chinese tributary asap

not confusing at all

>>2212957
Dare I sit on the fencepost and say it's too early to say whether or not some things are bad or good.

>>2212957
>IT NEEDS TO BE MORE LIKE EU4!!! LET ME SPEND MANA FOR INSTANT GRATIFICATION!!!!!
i've seen so many of these posts

>>2213102
you need to use a cabinet person to encourage tribesmen to settle to peasants asap
As long as you get some peasants, they'll make food and it won't be starving anymore

>>2213084
>It's Imperatoria Victorialis out here.

this game is hard to understand, fuck.

>>2212976
>his daughter jadwiga became the king
she was trans?

>educating your heir kills your economy
yeah, lmao

>>2213120
at the time, it was impossible for a queen to rule, but there was no rule that said a woman can't be king, so they just made her the king

>>2213119
it gets easier

someone explain what the fuck is going on.

We got a patch yet? Johan said it will be today

>>2213119
start as a tribal shithole then its gradual complexity

>>2213101
This baby is going to inherit the fucking planet.

>19 hours played
>only 1392

>obscure shithole tribal nation in the middle of nowhere with no hope for expansion and 100+ years of speed 5 to do anything
yeah, I'm thinking kino is back on the menu

>>2213118
I wasn't making a judgment call. A Metropolis is objectively better than a City in Imperator, but you NEED to secure the food supply for all that population.

How do I vassalize seized land? I can't find the button for it

>>2213126
bad advice. you learn basically nothing from playing tribal shitholes because the entire gameplay is just waiting.

>>2213132
You mean release a vassal from conquered land? On the diplomacy interface there's a button.

>>2213122
but conservatives told me that based trad-cath Europe never subverted gender norms

third rome is now
how much savegame editing you do

wheres the button to shoot my cannons at a castle

>>2213133
waiting on what?

One mechanism i don't like is you have to build spy network to get casus bellis

no you don't you get your parliament to do it

>>2213004
Sadly I don't think there will be any sort of "create your own x" feature like we have in CK3 because uncreative normie drones didn't use the feature enough for them to find it worth implementing

>>2213129
Countries like this actually get some expand the frontier option that I assume lets them colonize easier. You could unite the island and then invade Indonesia.

>>2213129
this isnt obscure enough they get institutions from the market in my game from the start

why the fuck is sound randomly swinging in volume and track, and why fuck is it playing ambient noises instead of music

>>2212957
he wanted EU IV with a better map

>>2213125
its out

>>2213144
did you use random institutions spawn rule? by default they only spawn in europe

1752
Decolonization has started, France lost their huge african colonies, and New Spain is independent, they colonized the entire west coast of america, it's them in Kamchatka here
Also kingdom of the Teutons
Wait this ends in 1836 right? Im almost there

>>2213143
everyone can colonize, i assume, almost from the start
polynesian bonus is a court privilege that lets them hire explorers but its absolutely fucking useless because you need actual economy before you can afford them

>>2213142
With custom nations it is because it felt like one of those memes with the fake character "inconspicuously" added to the cast.

>>2213142
the vassal states should absolutely be customizable, in name and iconography
perhaps they could have wiz come in and do it as a junior with some interns. paradox brown

>>2213139
if you call parliament and you have at least 50% of them in your favor then they can give you a fabricated claims cb.
pretty unintuitive but its better than doing it via spies.

>>2213149
i didnt change anything
they get feudalism and legalism, those are available across asia

>>2213150
What the fuck is Novgorod doing?

speaking of wow, where is the icy veins to tell which is the best estate privleges and control boosting so i can BLOB

>i automate all of the game
>yea, gameplay is just waiting, it sucks

>>2213150
>kiev blob
>sweden blob

>>2213150
Global HREfication.

>>2213161
if you wanna BLOB, get the EU4.5 mod

>>2213150
novgorod like: fuck this, im out

What's with France always blobbing into Flanders but never into Wallonia?

>>2213162
>clicking on green trades and rgos is... le gameplay!

>>2213160
Desperately trying to escape from Muscovy

ruzsia not forming is a political stunt akin to keeping them out of world cups & olympics
as with most things wrong in this game, blame lambert

>>2213170
you wouldnt even know if ai is doing good job or not because you dont understand whats going on

1444 is a much more stable start date if you want plausible 19th century world map outcomes.
1337 you could have unthinkable shit survive until 1836 like the Golden Horde for example.

>>2213174
I don't care if its doing a good job if its doing something menial for me

whats the best way to make money early game
spam trade centers?

>>2213135
Obsessed with politics incel award

>>2213175
BUT BYZANTIUM!!!

>>2213178
so true!

Is there any reason to not automate trade at the start?

>>2213175
1444 is better start because you're not fucking about for 50 years to a century before shit really kicks off

>>2213179
byzantium still existed in 1444

how do you check the most advanced countries?

this guy's cute

>>2212659 (OP)
Did they really remove idea groups and readd fucking diplomat points from EU III?

is everyone going admin focus on the first age?

>>2213161
Doesn't matter too much as long as you get Centralization positive, once it's positive you can start accumulating it past the cap through parliament.

>>2213179
>>2213182
In fact Byz is one of the reasons they went with 1444 instead of 1453. That and the final phase of the 100 years war, I guess?

REEEEE

someone will make a 1444 start date eventually

>>2213175
EU3 start date of 1399 was reasonable.

no one has ever once browsed to your achievements page and gone 'woah.. this guy can really play

>>2213170
Do you enjoy that inefficient minting warning? Because I don't.

We must secure the beeswax for our ducats.

>>2213150
why is castile so chill with morroco or granada but despises portugal. the ai is not racist enough, this is also why ottomans dont blob into balkans

Does EU5 use the same highly-randomized DNA randomizer engine for portraits that CK3 does, for when characters have kids together?

Why can't I fabricate claims on Negroponte as Byzantium? Their population is overwhelmingly greek.

>>2213091
Idk I just played on speed 5 and it went away lol. Oh and the gringos have finally landed.

Also randomly my country decided to take out like 50 loans even though I was in the green so now I'm trying to pay those off asap atm.

How well do you feel the game lends itself to a Victorian era mod?

>>2213182
Honestly I’m so happy it’s the 14th century because it’s my fav ever and when the extended timeline mod comes out I will be using this game as a medieval game exclusively. Prob playing from 1200’s to 1600

which nation do you pick if you want the hottest babes so when you colonize the pacific you can have pleasure islands full of hot ladies
this is important

is there any reason for Cahokia to be so large? why isn't it just a city-state

>>2213206
what a fagotic question

What is the EU5 1337 equivalent of "1444 Byzantium" or "1836 Texas"?

>>2213208
you can tell even by this thread that most players are scrubs

>>2213205
I agree, I'm enjoying this medieval aspect. Eu4 doesn't have much medieval flavour and most of the interesting shit happens afterwards

>>2213145
they fucked up in the auditory department desu

>>2213200
seems like the AI need a way bigger regional focus
Just look at this they finally had a war with morocco, they took parts of granada and some random shit in Africa instead of clearing their peninsula of enemies? This is stupid

>>2212906
I think some event where if either king dies without children, and the two countries have good relations and are both protestant is enough of an abstraction of history for a pu between england and scotland... The choosing of Elisabeth's heir in James was pretty cynically carried out irl.

>>2213204
Soon, this is 100% better than vicky3 already

>>2213213
Granada

>>2213213
The Black Death

>>2213206
Any really, the girls all look good

Is there a map mode that shows de jure kingdoms so that you don't see all of the vassals and shit?

>>2213226
yes

>Watch several youtube guides
>Think that maybe you overreacted
>"Surely now after several hours of watching the gameplay it won't feel as bad and disorienting"
>Torrent the game

>Using the UI feels like picrelated
It's shit beyond any salvation. Thank fucking god I refunded this trash, gonna buy a ticket to Death Over Europe 2026 instead.

I wonder how difficult modding the map (i.e. province borders) is going to be.

>>2213047
What about market access?
I still don't understand what that does at all. Does ~50% market access in all my provinces mean all my buildings are basically only producing half of the goods?

>>2213222
Stop seething and lower your goddamn taxes, if you want your buildings to be profitable.

>>2213220
The funnier part there is those Iberian provinces are mostly Castillan. You'd think that'd be enough.

So with the control stuff it's pretty much impossible to have a gigantic empire like rome or a wc? Or no? Would that just mean most provinces would have very low taxes and/or keep frequently revolting and be impossible to assimilate/convert?

>>2213228
you sound brown

does missions ON help with AI behavior? like castille focusing more on morocco and aragon than trying to kill portugal

is there a way to tell an AI war leader I would like them to give me a specific province in negotiations?

>>2213234
you have to slowly build your empire
release vassals and then annex them later, but you should accept their cultures asap if you wanna keep the land

put UI size at 90% otherwise it's unplayable

>>2213238
Dont worry they give a little something to everyone, thats how you end up with horrible border gore

>>2213234
you are meant to control land through vassals i think
historically, large empires would give distant provinces a lot of autonomy, especially if they were culturally or religiously distinct

>>2213240
but the control would be pretty much the same in a distant land after annexing them so whats the point?

>>2213234
having low taxes isn't a big deal. they still produce goods for your markets.

>>2213234
It improves with tech. Pragmatically speaking there's just about no reason to have land where you wouldn't have a decent amount of control, if that is the case then you should have a vassal use it instead since they'll get much more from it and also invest into it.

>>2213235
>black metal
>brown
Paracuck cope.

>>2213235
It's actually another neonazi brainlet getting filtered. He's gonna go listen to Mayhem, instead.

>>2213228
>filtered by linux
>filtered by eu5
KEK. stick to fortnite you fucking retard lmao

I hate this stupid pop systems shit from vic3. This doesnt feel like eu4. Im definitely refunding this shit and returning to eu4

>>2213257
>EU4 babby can't handle a game with any amount of complexity
many such cases

There is nothing stronger than being a good Muslim and marrying 4 wives, along with your children marrying 4 wives.
You will familymax and gain much more crownland.

In the words of my brother (and fellow family man) Vin Diesel

Ty little brother Dwayne... the time has come. The world awaits the finale of Fast 10. As you know, my children refer to you as Uncle Dwayne in my house. There is not a holiday that goes by that they and you don't send well wishes... but the time has come. Legacy awaits. I told you years ago that I was going to fulfill my promise to Pablo. I swore that we would reach and manifest the best Fast in the finale that is 10! I say this out of love... but you must show up, do not leave the franchise idle you have a very important role to play. Hobbs can't be played by nomie. I hope that you rise to the occasion and fulfill your destiny.

>>2213253
>Paracuck is enjoying unfiltered jeet shit UI, he never gets filtered by any cock he's got to suck on his way to staying an unapologetic paracuck
The UI is utter shit. QQ more.

>use the settle frontier action
>entire province depopulated

i don't get why people need to exist
it was fine they way we just developed provinces by clicking on them with admin/diplo/mil points
now you have to like play sim city in each tile of the whole world
not really a game anymore

>>2213262
if you want to play EU4 you can go play EU4
the rest of us have been asking paradox for a more simulation-driven game for over a decade

1337 was too fucking early and there's nothing they've done that's interesting enough to justify it in my opinion. If they wanted another early start they should have just done 1399 again.

>>2213262
You just need to play with a family in mind.

>>2213256
Of course it's a linuxfaggot gobbling on jeet shit UI and asking for more, LMAOOO

>>2213264
1337 was just before nations became overpowered like Ottomans or France.
It's a fine starting date

>>2213257
You're a toddler. I love the pop system, it adds much needed depth.

>>2213258
An idiot appreciates complexity
>>2213262
This, there is more stratedgy when it comes to eu4.

>>2213267
>>2213264
I think they put the start just before the Black Death so players would have to learn how to cope with having 1/3 of their population evaporated instead of just quitting whenever something bad happens.

>>2213261
At least your population looks pretty good. Just a bit more and you might be able to form a duchy.

>>2213266
Reminder this is a brown ESL tranny consistently seething about eu5 because it's not manaslop ERP like eu4

how the fuck do you even play yuan lmao

>>2213270
im still going to savescum when bad shit happen be it as it may...

i cant have a guild without a city? even a shitty one to make stone tools? that sucks, city is much more expensive

>>2213234
It is so over for blobbers, the control system needs to go!!!

>>2213257
>>2213260

I'm trans btw why can't I spend admin mana to world conquest in 10 years as ryukyu and goon on discord...

>>2213269
It's not about appreciating complexity for complexity sake, it's that some of us want more depth to our games other than just mindless blobbing and abstract representations of the population of a province. You're welcome to go play any other retard appeasing game and stop shitting this thread up

>>2213275
Wait for Yuan to collapse then play as Ming

Uhhh can I stop the game from lagging and skipping

>>2213280
You are replying to an actual discord tranny who has been same fagging for days lol

>>2213262
I don't think you people realize how advanced this game can get with DLC/mods

>>2213150
Does China implode often in V?

>>2213263
>the rest of us
Victoriafaggots like you are not "the rest of us". I bet you faggot never played EU2 and EU3 and have spent the last decade begging for V3.

we have hours now, why can you still instantly embark/disembark troops
feels really cheesy

>>2213271
i already did, you can form it when you have 150k pops of state religion, no need to get to 200k

Why have missions disabled by default?

>>2213264
they wanted it because big scary black death

>>2213288
good morning saar

>>2213288
I played EU3 before you were born.

>>2213288
Brown tranny hands typed this post

Why create a new thread if the other thread is still up?

>>2213287
Im pretty sure they implode every time

>>2213272
Reminder that you're a butthurt victoriafaggot who thinks watching numbers go up is "gameplay", lol.
>>2213279
>I'm trans
I can tell, paracuck.

>>2213287
They never united after the Yuan collapsed actually
They supposed to be the Asian version of Big Blue Blob (French)

>>2213287
>>2213297
i think the start date is during the yuan's period of decline

>>2213298
So much this sister! We want our grand strategy to have no boring stupid complexity, that's for idiots. Eu4 is based!

>>2213289
Send your complaint to Paradox, they would listen

>>2213293
>>2213294
>>2213295
>>2213301
Get a load of this triggered jeet
Hey jeet fag, are you this mad because you wrote this shit jeet UI?
LMAOOOO, sounds about right, who else would be programming in the fucking sweden by a bunch of mobile-trained shitskins

Ok so Portugal is in a civil war rn (pretender war). The pretender actually joined a defensive pact with me, so why can’t I join his war if I’m supposed to be defending him? I wanted to take advantage and gobble up some land and putting someone more friendly on the Throne.

>>2213304
Notice how mad this brown tranny is that he code switched a couple days ago to saying Jeet to larp as a white guy
You lost lol

>>2213305
i assume the pretender is the aggressor in the war and it's a defensive pact

Stop reply to the schizo you retards, he has been here for days trying to ragebait every chances he got or he is samefagging now
Ignore that faggot

>>2213304
Sorry, I'm a schizophrenic individual who has not taken my medication and I am actually responsible for over half of the posts in this thread. I'm having a moment of clarity now that my caretaker has forced me to take my meds. I'll stop posting now and let the rest of you bros enjoy the thread. Have a good day

>>2213308
Notice how this shitskin jeet is desperately trying to protect this jeet phone UI, LOL

the dogshit ragebait lowk funny

>>2213304
>>2213308
4chuds never ceases to amaze me lmao

>>2213311
>Sorry, I'm a schizophrenic
Yeah, I can tell.
>>2213310
Another jeet responsible for the UI triggered, lmao

>>2213262
Because fuck Quantity Ideas.

>>2213315
>>2213312
You lost lol
Just go steal more computer parts from your sacred Mumbai trash heap bro

There’s literally no reason for Vicky 3 economy autism to be in the game.
It makes sense for Victoria, because it’s an industrial revolution simulator, but not for Europa Universalis.
Hours are also completely unnecessary

Huh
While I wasn't paying attention someone united the pueblo

>>2213321
>Tranime brigade
Discord tranny raid confirmed

okay so i just torrented the game and started up as Brandenburg and despite being super weak and shit, my country gets declared war upon it twice and wins both wars somehow despite we being way weaker. and then the loser (aggressor) will simply accept all its provinces being taken, fiefdom, etc. shit already seems super retarded. like way beyond eu3-level retarded.

This game is much slower than EU4. A whole afternoon only got me to like 1400.

can someone help me figure out where this Trade Focus modifier is coming from? I'm being out-competed in trade advantage because of it.

>>2213321
You're gay and retarded

>>2213326
can you search modifiers in the ledger?

can someone help me figure out where this Trade Focus modifier is coming from? I seem to find what gives this modifier and it's causing them to have more trade advantage than me.

>>2213325
Honestly maybe it’ll get all the ADD riddled YouTuber faggots to stop running the game at light speed and treating it a mouse sliding/clicking simulator

You can tell the newfag brigade because they're coming to /vst/ to tell us that eu4 wasn't a faggot casualized abomination and that vicky2 style pops are bad. Many such cases !

>no one familymaxxing
i am actually ashamed

>>2213320
>A jeet hired to write this shit UI can only comprehend reality through the things he see daily, like stinky jeet garbage subhuman existence
It really makes more and more sense why the UI is such an utter crumbling pile of shit and trash. Of course it would be. It was written by jeets who exist exclusively in shit and trash.
Holy fuck LMAO

>>2213321
Economics were the driving factor behind the Age of Exploration.
Also hours only seem to be relevant to military things

Is there no way to pause after battles?

>>2213332
actually i think eu4 sucks too. eu3 is the pinnacle of EU gameplay. vicky 2 style pops are kind of cringe and >>2213321 is somewhat right though. i do like the population mechanics for culture and social class though.

>>2213338
>>2213334
Samefag tranny ESL moment

>>2213321
>The era when new world goods make shit loads of money for the colonial powers
>New world food products like potato fundamentally changed society
>the only reason Europe discovered a new continent is because they tried to find another trade route to get around the silk road controlled by the Muslim
>Trade is not important guys
Holy mother of EU4 brainrot

the biggest problem with the game is the shitty AI and opaque map though.
>>2213339
>opinion i don't like
>s-s-s-samefag!

it's actually kind of unbelievable how long these pagan baltic tribes held out, this really wasn't that long ago
most people today think Europe proper was fully Christianized by like A.D 1000
I'm not saying all that to be like 'vgh, muh pvganism', it's just one of those 'it's pretty surprising that this really happened' things

i’d rather an auto expansion button on specific types of RGOs and buildings instead of this automation that’s just do whatever you want paradox AI

>>2213331
Judging from Swimmy's review, I doubt that.

building roads in my heartland is always beneficial, right?'

>>2213341
>Deleted his own post because his brown boss might see him calling himself a Jeet
LOL eu4troons lost

>>2213343
This was like the fringes of Europe back then.
What we would consider the lands of the old Roman Empire + Germania were fully Christianized for centuries then. Still interesting though

Did the game really need 250,000+ """locations"""

>>2213340
>implying you need victoria economy autism to simulate all that
kys

>>2213280
Soo complex it got 71% positive reviews, yeah right lol.
>>2213279
If this is supposed to be me, Im not trans. Im polish.

>>2213353
Probably not, but it allows for a lot of granularity with RGOs.
Sucks if your computer sucks, I guess.

>>2213354
just let the computer handle it for you bud

>>2213354
>I-if I use 4chan lingo maybe they will like eu4 manaslop!!
>Uhhh it's actually a bad thing to simulate goods and markets in an era where white men conquered the world for spices
Brown "people" have zero self awareness kek

>be brandenburg
>stettin attacks you!
>somehow win despite being heavily outnumbered by Stettin and Luneburg
>take 3 provinces
>a few months later
>this other country same size as you but much stronger militarily attacks your fiefdom vassal!
>somehow win because big daddy Denmark comes all the way south and beats the much stronger country for you
>make the country your vassal
holy retard blob potential. great game, folks.

>>2213353
Yea, I’ll take that over big vague blobs of land that is neither realistic nor representative like in 4

I'm running out of pops to put to work in Italy. What do?

>>2213354
Oh im delightful to hear your opinion about another system that can simulate such mechanic
Press X to spend your trade mana to have potato lmao?

>>2213259
Is this some copypasta?
If not, then holy shit this is cringe.
Celebrities don't care about you.
These movies are pure fiction.
So stop larping, it's embarrassing.

>>2213363
>Uhhhh eu4 is good because of mana
>Yeah I'll just say that systems in eu5 are mana despite it making no sense. Basterd bitch benchod will stop supporting pops and RGOs now
Brown intellectuals everyone

>>2213361
This game stills blobs except that the blobing doesn't make any sense. Atleast the blobing in eu4 is coherent.

>>2213362
Import brown 3rd worlders unironically

>>2213367
I think you replied to the wrong post.

>>2213362
I think you can use a cabinet member to promote migration to a specific location on top of peasants already giving a base rate of pop increase if it goes negative. Might take a bit though depending on how may pops are missing for your work

>>2213368
>Uhhhh actually eu5 is bad because of blobbing
>But eu4 one province ryukyu world conquest with instant mana assimilation is GOOD
Brown intellectuals everyone

>>2213370
forgive him, he's retarded. kind of like this game.

>>2213362
Import Indians, now you finally understand why your gov does it

i am finally fucking done
this was way harder than it should have been

>>2213374
>Eu4 is good fellow white people. Depth is retarded. We want completely abstracted numbers with zero foundation

>>2213375
The Ottomans tried that and that's how we got gypsies.

>>2212778
>>2212874
>>2212877
You just download the 1.0.2 update from fitgirl repacks or whatever, it's only 700mb

>>2213368
Are you talking about location placements?

>>2213359
>autist seethe and projection
The game doesn't even simulate the era's economies correctly, dumbass.
Its only there so spergs like you can jerk off to it

>>2213362
colonize shit for RGO resources
third worlders gather RGO for you in their shithole, while you trade shit back home for your skilled populations to produce better shit from their RGO shit

>>2213378
I hate EU4 though. It's a shit game. And I hate fuhrer mana. Your shitposting has no power over me.

>>2213353
yes it makes each place around the world interesting to play.

>castile and the aztecs get into a collonial race
>Neither is dominant enough to finish it
>The population grows until it literally hits the cap
>No one gets the province
>Softlocked out of colonizing it
Thank you paradox, very cool!

>>2213379
Gypsies came to Europe during Byzantine times thoughbeit

>>2213377
what year?

>>2213388
>castile
>aztecs
>colonial race
this is why nuParadox sucks.

how the fuck does patrol the seas work

>>2213372
I actually don't really care about blobing, I'm just showing how hypocritical you guys are lol.

>you're a brown transsexual
>no, you're a brown transsexual!
All this reactionary friendly fire, man.

>>2213386
Meanwhile you keep falling back to
>Uh actually this thing about eu4 I like is good, eu5 bad because it's not manababby sim like my wholesome heckin one province ryukyu world conquest
>Oh and also if I call eu5 systems mana despite it clearly not being eu4's dog shit then maybe they will believe me
Being an inbred brown person must be mental torture

>>2213393
it's buggy, just put the navy manually somewhere and it will raise maritime presence

>>2213390
1425, after six phases and it was still on knifes edge. claiming the throne is dumb hard for no reason numbers wise

>>2213396
Not a single white /gsg/ chud is unironically shitting on EU5 while saying a single positive thing about eu4. It's all brown third worlders and reddit trannies trying to force the narrative

>>2213402
>no true white nationalist
What level of purity spiraling is this?

>>2213401
but now you’re set for the rest of the game

they picked the 1337 start date because denmark starts out insanely weak and sweden insanely powerful

>>2213402
Very true, anon. I, white /gsg/ chud, shit on both EU4 and EU5 equally.

>>2213403
>Obese freemason pedophile calls Europe nonwhite
American as hell lol

>>2213409
It's an excerpt from an article whining about German immigrants, by the way.

>>2213392
>why would the aztecs subjugate their native neighbours I'm shaking and crying and pissing and cumming right now...

>>2213321
Trade is important in EU's time period and you can't properly model trade without production

trying to wrap my head around proximity. i have a road from Menopele to my capital but it doesn't say I have any proximity, positive or negative. any idea why? that's the proximity to capital mapmode btw

>>2213405
true unless ill get fucked by a coalition or france keeps revolting. hoping for the best though

>>2212689
This is funny because it works for both spellings and both sides

>>2213412
Explain why EU4 doesnt have it and people still play it

>>2213412
trade is important in all periods, retard.

>>2213392
yeah everyone knows colonialism was invented by whites and brown people never subjugated their neighbors

>>2213416
Because you're 70 IQ and brown and like having a game that has no depth. Nobody likes the nuparadox era, and Johan is better off without you

performance is ruining it
started losing interest around the 1450s because of how slow the game got

>>2213409
you could describe almost all of the European aristocracy at the the time of Franklin with the exact same adjectives

Why am I getting my ass kicked so hard here? It looks to me like we have similar stats and I have the numbers, what is going on?

>>2213413
too far even with road so it just says none
build up maritime presence instead

>>2213420
Turn off gay ass 3d and enable the skip console command retard. Even on a toaster it runs great without bing bing wahoo 3d shit

>>2213422
He has tribal cav and you have shitty peasant levies
Also your right flank is fucked

Anyone tried playing Perm? I wanted to do a "siberian colonization" strat, but the country is falling apart before i even unpause, no matter what i do i'am losing money, even if i automate everything it seems the country is just doomed

>>2213423
an adjacent, but closer, province has -8%, so I was thinking it'd be lower than that but not outright "none"

>>2213422
They have calvary
Your right flank is 60 good men holding against 300 dudes

>>2213422
You have a bunch of drunk retard russian peasants with pitchforks fighting Turkish horse chads without significant number or ranged backup. What the fuck do you think happened

>>2213119
It’s got a lot going on, but it all makes sense put together. Literally just think of it like it’s a real country and consider what needs to go into a real country to be successful. It’s kinda common sense:
centralization and infrastructure good
Produce the rgos you have that others don’t
Professional armies good
Estates are jealous fags
People gotta eat and want shit
If you’ve studied or read history, it makes a lot of sense. History chads are eating good.

>>2213422
They got drone tech, it hard counters muscovy

Yeah game would it be better if it focused on simulating Eurasian (and mainly European and levantine) countries, affairs, history. Shitskins don't matter, except for colonization by their betters in Europe.

>>2213413
that’s just how it is bro, it’s a long trek
probably dangerous

man this game is so much more meaningful than eu4 its just no comparison

>>2213430
I guess it just stops calculating if there's no neighbouring province with positive proximity

>>2213175
True, but I still like the start date. They just need to make a 1444 start date and everyone will be happy.

>>2213429
ofcourse its doomed if you automate everything
you need to learn whats going on first
i've burned playing is syberia in ck3 so i probably wont even try. Provinces are giga massive and poor as shit, everyone is trying to fuck you up from all sides.

I feel like as a native you basically have to rush colonizing iron or you get giga fucked by tool/weapon shortages

>>2213433
Yeah, it simulated statecraft really well
I have seen many anons scratching heads about where would they find more workers, an issue that many current Western countries are also facing.

>brown eu4troon gets heem'd
>Thread no longer full of seethe about EU5
White man marches on

>>2213175
Black death erasing half your population is kino though

>>2213439
Yeah we just need the 1444 date

Am I supposed to have no manpower? It seems there's only one early building that produces it and I'm limited to one in my entire realm.

Now I know how blacks feel when they're shoehorned into games... I-I feel seen...

>>2213444
i think eu5 and eu4 both suck though

How do I deal with this as England

>>2213448
wait for professional armies institution to build armories. it's the mid 14th century, nobody has a massive standing army

>>2213449
this nigga got assburgers lmao

>>2213422
cav is insanely OP.

>>2213448
It's almost like significant permanent armies were a purely post 1492 thing crazy huh

>>2213451
Go colonize lmao

>>2213447
>>2213439
I expect it to be in an expansion pack. It'd sell really well.
Paradox has said in the past that people almost always use the earliest start date but I think when there's a huge difference between two dates, like the pre-HRE and 1066 start dates in CK3, they provide pretty different experiences that make choosing one or the other worthwhile.

why tf is it impossible to become the head of this stupid vladimir union as moscow

so what happened to the real start dates? you know, 1399 and 1452?

parliament at exactly 50.00% support makes the banner blank

>>2213452
I have this institution, I guess I should look at the tree.

>>2213455
I was just making sure I didn't fuck something up. Naples starts with around 300 manpower but after a war or two it seems almost impossible to be above single digits.

>>2213451
>The eternal anglo is hated by Europe
>Decides to colonize the entire earth and fuck brown women
Just like real life

Did you guys ever see AI Timur do some conquering? I never saw him take more than 3 provinces.

why yes, i do automate EVERYTHING when im in a regency

>literally doubled Brandenburg's size in 3 years
yeah, this is gonna need some work or some mods to save us from Paradox's shitty AI and balance.

>>2213465
Latest patch should've changed that to timur literally raping the ottomans in 1402

>>2213468
No you didnt because if you did you would post pics and say how. Expansion in HRE is hard checked by boheemia coming to rape you

my thuganid 200 tengri dudes on horses cannot be stopped by anybody at this point
every time a coalition forms my 200 premium thugs defeat armies of like 900-1200 with a loss ratio of like 1:40

It has been 16 years since the king of Hungary had a son and he is STILL set to lose his kingdom after death.
Why the fuck is Poland allowed to steal Hungary from me

why are some locations silver?

how can i promote a rural settlement into a city?

>>2213471
Vgh...

>>2213470
whatever, just made Meissen my vassal

okay so the game is slow but is it because it's designed that way or are we talking about the game lagging?

Turns out building spam does not help with turning a profit.

>>2213479
>Took counties from archbisphoric and a prince elector
Bohemia is going to come dismantle you lmao see that red? It's your anus soon

>>2213481
Yes

>>2213481
its designed to be slow but the shitty engine can't process faster than the highest speed

>>2213467
Based roleplayer

i automate everything because trade's boring

>1803
Im gonna stop here
For some reason months were extremely slow after 1760, like 10 15 sec per month but now its better around 4-5 sec per month

>>2213413
Typical Southern Italy experience. You have to get rid of the mafia first.

>>2213494
>that
>1803
yeah eu5 sucks

>>2213494
Europeans really didn’t give a fuck about Asia huh.

>>2213236
Missions in this game are just a tutorial with overpowered bonuses for the player. I don't think AI gets them either way.