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Anonymous No.101320131 >>101322043
/vsj+/ - VShojo+ General
Perfect for Cave Diving Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.

Henya is LIVE! With even more Wind Waker. Though as of this writing she's hanging out and doing other stuff. Mouse is also LIVE! And is playing some Yakuza 0. The Switch 2 version specifically as a sponsored stream. Go check it out. Or don't. Finally Zen is LIVE! But is asleep and turned in early out of exhaustion. That Zenathon is catching up. That's it for now so pick a stream and keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

Image source: https://x.com/gami_mein/status/1934931679577325795

VShojo is:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot
GEEGA - https://www.twitch.tv/geega | https://www.youtube.com/@GEEGA
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya | https://www.youtube.com/@zentreya

Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo

Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussion

Previous Thread: >>101301160
Anonymous No.101320283
Anonymous No.101320431 >>101320681
Michi isn't done with work, starting soon
Anonymous No.101320445 >>101320681
Michigan live
Anonymous No.101320539
Watching Henya fawn over Medli has been one of the the best parts of her playthrough.
Anonymous No.101320580
My biggest gripe with sponsors is them making Mouse not curse.
Anonymous No.101320681
>>101320431
>>101320445
>crying stream
She found out what Mouse did with Numi
Anonymous No.101320882 >>101320947 >>101321004 >>101321375
>ZONEsama donated 5 subs
Michi?
Anonymous No.101320947
>>101320882
i like zonesama's model. the one that's not a robot. the robot one is cool but i like the other one more. i don't like the robot voice though.
Anonymous No.101320981
Aboba on Michi
Anonymous No.101321004
>>101320882
Zone has been a long time fan of Vshojo thanks to their connection with Mel.
Anonymous No.101321178 >>101321205
Michi is a pescatarian, she can eat fish cum
Anonymous No.101321205
>>101321178
I thought she was a lesbian
Anonymous No.101321251
I miss Mouse moans
Anonymous No.101321369
mouse sponsor done
Anonymous No.101321375
>>101320882
Zone?
https://youtu.be/2NNMHxqJp6A?si=jZ0gkvm-WcXc_NsU
Anonymous No.101321412 >>101321573 >>101321746 >>101323521
Anonymous No.101321475 >>101321543
Anonymous No.101321501
I like her pc case art
Anonymous No.101321522
ADHD
Anonymous No.101321543 >>101321607
>>101321475
>middle east
Anonymous No.101321573
>>101321412
Coomeranon, you need to stop.
Anonymous No.101321607
>>101321543
Anonymous No.101321635 >>101322213
mouse's average chatters are starting to realize her adhd and using it to get her to play the game they want.
Anonymous No.101321746
>>101321412
gooners need to chill jesus the desperation
Anonymous No.101321854
MAN I LOVE HARUKA KARIBU
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Anonymous No.101321888
Mouse eating is cute
Anonymous No.101321924
Does anyone else know why mouse follows orebanana-p (legendary kagamine len tuner) she follows some of the most random and obscure e-celebs
Anonymous No.101321929
Damn short Michi stream
Anonymous No.101321999 >>101322031 >>101322091
How does Numi feel about males like Ferro and Mono sticking around Michi like this
Anonymous No.101322014
>just a reminder when michi start her subthon ferro going to be there all the time
Anonymous No.101322031
>>101321999
You're mentally ill
Anonymous No.101322043 >>101322088 >>101322093
>>101320131 (OP)
Is this Red Hood
Anonymous No.101322044
Actual discord mod appearance and personality
Anonymous No.101322078 >>101322173
I want the lewd 3rd of Mouse’s personality back.
Anonymous No.101322088
>>101322043
No it's Zen. You can tell by the Christmas tree hair
Anonymous No.101322091 >>101322115 >>101322159
>Ferro interrupted Numi talk
I defended you...
>>101321999
Girl? People can joke about being parasocial, but let's not have unicorns spawn in
Anonymous No.101322093 >>101322132
>>101322043
???
Anonymous No.101322115 >>101322159
>>101322091
He's shipping them and telling her to make a move lmao
Anonymous No.101322132 >>101322187
>>101322093
Nikke character. From the neck up she does look a lot like Zen
Anonymous No.101322159
>>101322091
>>101322115
I take it all back, Ferro has not betrayed me.
Anonymous No.101322173 >>101322199 >>101322227
>>101322078
Connor forced her to stop showing her lewd side.
Anonymous No.101322187 >>101322204
>>101322132
Only Nikke Character that's Zen is Nihilister
Anonymous No.101322199
>>101322173
good mouse is his lil slut now
Anonymous No.101322204
>>101322187
Gee Zen, how come mom let you be two nikke characters?
Anonymous No.101322213
>>101321635
That's not new, it's why she has been doing this for the past two years. Even new chatters notice it as soon as they see her do it with the first game or two that they see her play, like during subathons.
Anonymous No.101322227 >>101322336
>>101322173
I hope they fuck soon mouse needs it badly
Anonymous No.101322295
live footage of vshojo firing MATA
https://x.com/Dil_e_Nadann/status/1934856129806520407?t=XlJh-pvA9mOGJwnWwgyeKQ&s=19
Anonymous No.101322336 >>101322364
>>101322227
They should stream it if they do
Anonymous No.101322364
>>101322336
would Monkesperg hate fap to it?
Anonymous No.101322522
Mouse is liking the papi and his fingering speed
Anonymous No.101322535 >>101322573 >>101322597
my guy shooting his shot
Anonymous No.101322573
>>101322535
he can make a video like the others in the community with a plushie
Anonymous No.101322588
michi live again
Anonymous No.101322597
>>101322535
He started off strong.
Anonymous No.101322611 >>101322670
Will Mouse ever bring back discord streams or watchalongs.
Anonymous No.101322670
>>101322611
No because then you would actually get something for being a Patreon or a sub and Mouse doesn’t do anything for supporters.
Anonymous No.101322768
Just one fucking day without a collab, is that too much to ask?
Anonymous No.101322783 >>101322793
This is going to be a non stop collab week isn’t it.
Anonymous No.101322793
>>101322783
its been this way for months we are lucky if we get 1 or 2 non collab days a week
Anonymous No.101322826 >>101322945
so I guess this confirms mouse is skipping finishing sister location before the new fnaf game even though she promised to finish it first.
Anonymous No.101322840
>We’ll play fnaf after
Mouse you know you won’t leave unless Ari leaves.
Anonymous No.101322845
mouse offline
Anonymous No.101322857
ari is a super leech i hate her
Anonymous No.101322890
Henya raiding Ari
Anonymous No.101322945
>>101322826
ari to blame
Anonymous No.101322956 >>101322977 >>101322981 >>101323005 >>101323009 >>101323028 >>101323057 >>101323121 >>101323319
So is Mouse just ignoring the AI disclosures now?
Anonymous No.101322977 >>101323009
>>101322956
she's a hypocrite
Anonymous No.101322981
>>101322956
She only checked for a while because someone on twitter called her out for playing a game with ai.
Anonymous No.101323005
>>101322956
mouse promised to check if any games used ai on the steam page first though. she specifically said she would do that.
Anonymous No.101323009 >>101323034
>>101322977
>>101322956
This is the problem with taking a hard stance on this.
Anonymous No.101323022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS-wski9Xu0
Anonymous No.101323028
>>101322956
She’s sponsored by multiple companies with generative ai products.
Anonymous No.101323034 >>101323045
>>101323009
she could just not play this low effort slop
Anonymous No.101323045
>>101323034
It’s fine playing low effort slop but if you’ve taken a hard stance on ai then it’s not ok
Anonymous No.101323057
>>101322956
someone should let vel know so he can tell mouse. she wouldn't be playing this if she knew it used ai.
Anonymous No.101323075 >>101323242 >>101323266 >>101323375
Kobo mentioned
This is now my new /ehe~/
Anonymous No.101323121
>>101322956
ari fucking over mouses content
Anonymous No.101323242 >>101323293
>>101323075
Sir, this is a thread for pure idols. No malecollabing whores allowed.
Anonymous No.101323266
>>101323075
nice tummy
Anonymous No.101323293
>>101323242
Leave Kuro alone, Bettel collabs with everybody
Anonymous No.101323319 >>101323341 >>101323359
>>101322956
it's funny how as long as a game is good enough people will immediately drop their morals and play it anyways. there is no way mouse doesn't know it uses ai either so she is banking on no one big enough calling her out on it.
Anonymous No.101323341 >>101323401 >>101323437
>>101323319
Well you faggots sure won't do it. Why do that when you can anti her about it here?
Anonymous No.101323359
>>101323319
are you saying that is anomaly slop is good?
Anonymous No.101323375
>>101323075
is dorrito a cunny org?
Anonymous No.101323401
>>101323341
mods will snipe them its rigged from the start.
Anonymous No.101323437 >>101323480
>>101323341
it won't matter if any of us do it. she can ignore anyone as long as it isn't another creator. the fact mouse is still playing when we know vel is here and knows already is proof enough. mouse knows that it is unlikely anyone who matters will speak up again.
Anonymous No.101323480 >>101323515
>>101323437
There is a chance Vel isn't here right now and doesn't know. But even then I do think it is very unlikely Mouse didn't see the AI description.
Anonymous No.101323515
>>101323480
idk I doubt it. my assumption is ari is the one who brought up the game to play so mouse bought it without fully checking. it would be weird for her to play it anyways after recently doubling down with the whole hire real artists thing recently.
Anonymous No.101323520
>I don’t want my coochie to touch stuff
I’m sure there are some things you want touching your coochie
Anonymous No.101323521
>>101321412
pls show porn and sex sah I receive u
Anonymous No.101323644
>Michi's favorite is the long distance relationship song
D'aww
Anonymous No.101323655 >>101323692 >>101323731 >>101323847 >>101323907 >>101328087
you guys are arguing over nothing. mouse clearly doesn't know it uses ai and only wanted to play a quick game with her friend. no one cares enough to make a big deal over it so life will move on. vel will let her know later or something and it will become one of those many one offs of mouse's.
Anonymous No.101323692 >>101323700
>>101323655
still a hypocrite
Anonymous No.101323700
>>101323692
ignorance is not equal to hypocrisy.
Anonymous No.101323731 >>101323745
>>101323655
she knows she’s just a bad person that hates her fans
Anonymous No.101323745 >>101323815
>>101323731
if mouse knew she wouldn't be playing.
Anonymous No.101323815
>>101323745
sure mousecuck. donate more pay piggy
Anonymous No.101323847
>>101323655
It doesn't matter if Mouse doesn't know. She already bought the game and is promoting it to almost 10k people. I only hope this isn't another example of Mouse being "gifted" the game by the developer to play it on stream like the last time she played an ai generated game.
Anonymous No.101323907 >>101323923
>>101323655
Mouse definitely knows because of the bitching here
Anonymous No.101323908
I like Mono's work but this doesn't compare to the original beat, sorry
Anonymous No.101323923
>>101323907
no because if she knew she would have stopped earlier. she doesn't know because people aren't freaking out over it in chat like they did last time.
Anonymous No.101323965 >>101324001
Poor Mouse is hyping this whole thing up without knowing it uses AI.
Anonymous No.101324001 >>101324048
>>101323965
>it's a debut announcement for the vtuber who made it
oh god don't tell me mouse got tricked into not only playing a game with ai but also freely promoting this guys debut.
Anonymous No.101324016 >>101324129
Michi probably doesn't understand half these references, is this how zoomers see millenials?
Anonymous No.101324048 >>101324114 >>101324128
>>101324001
Hahaha. I love how this is the perfect confirmation that Mouse will throw away all her morals at the drop of a dime. It was clear the last time she continued to play that game even when the ai was obvious. Now she is giving this guy all the publicity he could want even with the steam page clearly saying it uses ai.
Anonymous No.101324114
>>101324048
bbino did this made her a sellout
Anonymous No.101324128 >>101324186
>>101324048
it's weird because she gets very vocal about even stupid uses of ai like when monke jokes around about grok or the whole bbno$ thing. but then she fucked up with that last game and then fucked up again forgetting to check the stream page of this game. it's confusing.
Anonymous No.101324129
>>101324016
no, zoomers see millenials as hot dommy mommies
Anonymous No.101324186
>>101324128
She only got vocal that one time because someone tweeted about being disappointed in her.
Anonymous No.101324274 >>101324327
>dev gifting subs
mouse is literally getting paid to promote ai now.
Anonymous No.101324275 >>101324327
now he's gifting subs
Anonymous No.101324327 >>101324363
>>101324274
>>101324275
This is the perfect play because now even if someone calls out it uses AI Mouse will feel like she can't badmouth it with the dev in chat.
Anonymous No.101324363 >>101324457 >>101324547 >>101324575
>>101324327
easiest promotion he's ever done
Anonymous No.101324394
I l word geega
Anonymous No.101324457
>>101324363
well I hope that at least confirms mouse doesn't know it uses ai yet.
Anonymous No.101324547 >>101324575 >>101324633
>>101324363
that confirms mouse knows that the game is made with ai. what a hypocrite
Anonymous No.101324575 >>101324633 >>101324650 >>101324734
>>101324363
>>101324547
>check out the developer
>see his previous 666 game and remember that mouse also played that one
>picrel
There is no chance Mouse doesn't know it uses AI this developer has a habit of using it. She's taking advantage of knowing people don't care enough to check most of the time. Now I wonder how many other games Mouse has snuck in with AI knowing she could get away with it.
Anonymous No.101324593
it's gotta be pathological at this point, right
it's not healthy
Anonymous No.101324609 >>101324701
Has michi reacted to mouse using her model? If so can I have a timestamp?
Anonymous No.101324622 >>101324758 >>101325166
https://x.com/Ophimon/status/1935205344386699690
Anonymous No.101324633 >>101324652 >>101324750
>>101324575
>>101324547
on nyoo he uses AI in his games woopty fucking doo
jfc get over it already and quit crying like a little bitch, luddites
everybody use it and it will be used even more
Anonymous No.101324650
>>101324575
she played that before the disclosure thing was added on steam
Anonymous No.101324652
>>101324633
There are just as many good games that don't use it. As with anything supporting games with AI makes it easier for real artists to lose work. Something Mouse claims she cares about.
Anonymous No.101324701 >>101324778 >>101324781
>>101324609
Just the Numi call, not the mousey bits beforehand
Anonymous No.101324734 >>101324873
>>101324575
Unfortunately steam makes this more difficult by putting the disclosure at the bottom of the page. It really should be at the top.
Anonymous No.101324750
>>101324633
Nta but Mouse was the one crying about ai, I don’t give a shit if a game has ai but Mouse made a strong stance on the issues.
Anonymous No.101324758 >>101324945
>>101324622
bro doesn't even mention it's her lmao
Anonymous No.101324778 >>101325010
>>101324701
Thank you michibro
Anonymous No.101324781 >>101325010
>>101324701
She's really dodging the girlfriend stuff, and there was a bit of Mouse teasing about it earlier in the clip. Michi might be worried about chat taking things too far
Anonymous No.101324873
>>101324734
>It really should be at the top
no it shouldnt, they should remove it altogether
Anonymous No.101324945
>>101324758
He had a poll asking who to draw
https://x.com/Ophimon/status/1935103191252877791
Anonymous No.101324968 >>101325005
we are once again losing an entire stream to a collab mouse can't leave when we know mouse also has multiple collabs planned for the rest of the week. fun.
Anonymous No.101324994
Anonymous No.101325005
>>101324968
she doesn't care
Anonymous No.101325010
>>101324778
No prob
>>101324781
After getting spooked by how many 4skins are noombas? When even her mods and manager are teasing her about it? Makes sense that she is
Anonymous No.101325039
I love when Mouse says pussy
Anonymous No.101325166
>>101324622
another W for geegooners
Anonymous No.101325167
I love when mouse rages about ai but plays five game made by ai each week
Anonymous No.101325229 >>101325624
>My brand isn't being bi or stuff like that
yeah, about that
Anonymous No.101325351 >>101325379
michi you're most likely just malnourished with a low libido
Anonymous No.101325379
>>101325351
concernfag in her chat, retard MD. not here, spam more tts messages. or better yet, apply for mod and spam !modsay
Anonymous No.101325425 >>101325624
I'm surprised Michi and her mom are so open about sex
Anonymous No.101325624
>>101325425
If your daughter is already handling things in a different way from the norm, might as well ask her for clarification.
>>101325229
Michi might be toning it down, she's been skipping using the robot.
Anonymous No.101325648
Kson live with her sexy friend
Anonymous No.101325653
michi will have straight sex on chaturbate to beat the allegations
Anonymous No.101325658
Anonymous No.101325665 >>101325813
good night vsj
Anonymous No.101325720
The only true lesbians are Vshojo jp, En like nyanners and michi are frauds
Anonymous No.101325813
>>101325665
Anonymous No.101325874
>I'm ace
>I'm not feeling horny
>1h later she start gooning over a british speaking door
never change michi
Anonymous No.101326296
>Bratty twink lightswitch
it twiched
Anonymous No.101326313 >>101326405
https://x.com/sakiyume11/status/1935170367720669593
Anonymous No.101326405 >>101326414 >>101327100
>>101326313
Who is that on the right?
Anonymous No.101326414
>>101326405
*bashes your skull with a brick*
Anonymous No.101326675 >>101326772
>let me play this game with a friend for a bit then we'll play fnaf
so that was a lie.
Anonymous No.101326772
>>101326675
I mean I called it before. Mouse does not leave collabs unless they collab partners do.
She is physically incapable of setting a limit so she can do what she said she would.
Anonymous No.101326830 >>101326873 >>101326889 >>101326992 >>101327607
>Struggles to make time for community stuff or any stuff for paying patreons or subs
>has plenty of time to play slop with a friend for an entire stream.
We simply do not matter to her anymore.
Anonymous No.101326873
>>101326830
Hey, as long as you've accepted it and will stop crying.
Anonymous No.101326889
>>101326830
Why would anyone care about you?
Anonymous No.101326943 >>101327003 >>101327068
I officially hate scuttlebutt, Mouse has definitely stopped any moans since and I fucking hate him for it.
She already held back but now we lost them entirely.
Anonymous No.101326992 >>101327272
>>101326830
you forgot to mention this game uses generative ai for art and sounds even when it is clearly stated on the steam page. mouse promised she wouldn't play a game that used ai for assets again
Anonymous No.101327003
>>101326943
If you haven't noticed scuttlebutt is Connor's alt
Anonymous No.101327019
just fell in love with a vshojo
Anonymous No.101327062 >>101327071 >>101327116 >>101327120 >>101327126 >>101327156 >>101327209 >>101327365 >>101328185
Do you guys have any spare meidos? We've had one dude spam /lig/ on cooldown for the past 3 hours now
Anonymous No.101327068
>>101326943
Just needs more Connor collabs
Anonymous No.101327071
>>101327062
no
Anonymous No.101327098
I want to fuck Ari
Anonymous No.101327100
>>101326405
someone irrelevant who hates vshojo
Anonymous No.101327116
>>101327062
no, but they come running if you make fun of SEA and/or /#/
Anonymous No.101327120
>>101327062
You think we have any meidos?
Anonymous No.101327126
>>101327062
Lmao
Anonymous No.101327156 >>101327163
>>101327062
We have a guy sperging 16 hours a day every day
Anonymous No.101327163 >>101327184
>>101327156
they are called mousefags and I hate them
Anonymous No.101327184 >>101327374
>>101327163
I believe his name is timmy actually
Anonymous No.101327209
>>101327062
>vsj+
>meidos
Anonymous No.101327229
geeg today
Anonymous No.101327272
>>101326992
Because I don’t care
Anonymous No.101327365 >>101327401 >>101327495
>>101327062
Anonymous No.101327374
>>101327184
no it’s mousefag I am certain
Anonymous No.101327401
>>101327365
bro is a time traveler
Anonymous No.101327432
>>101327701
fuck you
Anonymous No.101327463
where did kson find this chick, this is insane
Anonymous No.101327467
big booty
Anonymous No.101327495 >>101327867
>>101327365
thanks, have this in return https://files.catbox.moe/cbafcs.jpg
Anonymous No.101327533
Geega marry me
Anonymous No.101327607 >>101327704
>>101326830
>community stuff
She did fridge reviews yesterday
>any stuff for paying patreons or subs
Oh you're one of the chatters pushing for Discord shit. An incredibly small fraction of her subs turns up for that and you have mental illness if you're still a Patreon paypig. A regular stream is making more time for her community.
>Me and four other guys invited Mouse to a motel room and she didn't show up.. She hates her community!
Anonymous No.101327641 >>101327713 >>101327718 >>101327867 >>101327961
https://files.catbox.moe/ayoxoa.png
Anonymous No.101327692
mouse is about to raid this guy isn't she
Anonymous No.101327704 >>101327814
>>101327607
People who pay should get some extra content. Now discord is open there is no benefit to subbing or Patreon.
Anonymous No.101327713
>>101327641 (me)
oops I thought I was in lig but I saw someone just posted Kronii cock so you can keep Bodega cock as well
Anonymous No.101327717 >>101327731
https://files.catbox.moe/dortsi.mp4
Anonymous No.101327718
>>101327641
Anonymous No.101327731
>>101327717
hot but tits too small
Anonymous No.101327734
mouse live
Anonymous No.101327764
stream ruined
Anonymous No.101327770
mouse you literally promised to finish sister first
Anonymous No.101327790
Mouse you promised to finish the fnaf games. Stop making promises you don’t have the commitment to keep.
Anonymous No.101327798
Well there you go. Mouse throws out all her morals ignoring the AI completely just because it was a cute vtuber who made it. Love to see it.
Anonymous No.101327807
mouse hyping up ai slop lmao
Anonymous No.101327814
>>101327704
Almost like nearly every content creator gives extra content to supporters.
Anonymous No.101327815
mouse reeeeeeeeeeeeee
Anonymous No.101327828
Don't care.
Anonymous No.101327845 >>101327869 >>101327880
I'm finna ai generate a shit load of mouse art
Anonymous No.101327846
https://files.catbox.moe/zx41xm.mp4
Anonymous No.101327851
I hope mouse doesn't realize it is ai on stream. Seeing her so hyped about the game just to be devastated would be sad. I'd rather that happen off stream.
Anonymous No.101327867
>>101327641
>>101327495
nice cock
Anonymous No.101327869
>>101327845
use it to make all the subgoal covers she refuses to do instead and tag her
Anonymous No.101327880
>>101327845
with cock?
Anonymous No.101327882
>wake up
>glad i missed hot dogshit ai game
Anonymous No.101327939 >>101327962
>mouse and ari have been playing palworld offline
ari really has become mouse's new best friend now.
Anonymous No.101327961
>>101327641
Anonymous No.101327962
>>101327939
explains why she does her damndest to ignore everyone in vshojo
Anonymous No.101327975
I don’t care about ai games.
I just want lewd Mouse back
Anonymous No.101328006 >>101328045
and of course we end with sim slop.
Anonymous No.101328021 >>101328088
This looks like it could be for Kuro
Anonymous No.101328023 >>101328080 >>101328146 >>101329240
Mousefags, I know zenfags have jokingly said this to you for years but you complain way too much.
Anonymous No.101328030
Or you could looks at the videos you have hundreds of and haven’t looked at the last few weeks
Anonymous No.101328034
Another day of going to 4chan and reading anons complainslop posts
Anonymous No.101328045 >>101328061 >>101328078
>>101328006
>scary day turns into slop and leech day
classic
Anonymous No.101328061
>>101328045
same thing
Anonymous No.101328078
>>101328045
I forgot that was supposed to be a horror game
Anonymous No.101328080
>>101328023
Mouse whiners are scum. Actual mousefags hate them
Anonymous No.101328082 >>101328140
So is the reason why none of the vtubers complained about this ai game mouse played like the last one was because it was made by a vtuber?
Anonymous No.101328087 >>101328109 >>101328119
>>101323655
I'm almost certain Mouse's hard stance against AI in games will be slowly eroded over time. As AI gets better the temptation and pressure for game devs to use it in at least some way, shape, or form will only grow stronger and stronger and Mouse won't avoid every game that has it.
Anonymous No.101328088
>>101328021
reminded me that Froot never used hers, poor namie
Anonymous No.101328109
>>101328087
shes given the green light so its time to spam her with ai art and ai covers
Anonymous No.101328119 >>101328166 >>101328352
>>101328087
anon it clearly already has. that hard stance she took was after she played a game way after it was clear it used ai. this game has ai clearly marked on the page and mouse ignored that, played it, hyped up the game and the auther, and wish listed the next game. meanwhile that author is known to use ai in all of his games now. if that isn't a clear reverse on mouse's stance idk what is.
Anonymous No.101328140
>>101328082
I don't think any other vtuber played it
Anonymous No.101328146 >>101328172
>>101328023
All of Mouse’s legit community places are like North Korea so any complaints come here.
Anonymous No.101328166 >>101328240 >>101328249
>>101328119
she took a hard stance against ai way before that other game
Anonymous No.101328172
>>101328146
same for geega's community but only about publicly loving geega
Anonymous No.101328185
>>101327062
Only when one of our girls is collabing with a Holo.
Anonymous No.101328240
>>101328166
yes and mouse continued to play that other game for hours after it clearly used ai then took a hard stance again. and now has again played a game with clearly marked ai use for art. like I said it is very clear that mouse's hard stance against ai was nothing but talk. its like kevin where his rigging was clearly bad but mouse did nothing about it for years until there was huge drama she couldn't ignore. the same will happen with ai where the only time she will reverse is if enough drama happens. it's very clear she doesn't give a fuck as long as it isn't immediately obvious and/or no one complains.
Anonymous No.101328249
>>101328166
damn she hates Kizuna that bad
Anonymous No.101328299 >>101328377
Final tally
Anonymous No.101328352
>>101328119
Mouse is a people pleaser and has very few opinions she won't change if they become inconvenient or unpopular. If everyone around her suddenly starts liking AI, and it becomes popular to like AI, she'll also start liking AI. Acting horny and sexual used to be the cool thing for vtubers to do, and she's completely changed herself in that regard over time as well to adjust to the times and the brand she wants to project.
Anonymous No.101328373
AI generated Mouse discourse
Anonymous No.101328377 >>101328402 >>101328677
>>101328299
>Mata tied with CandiI
Holy grim
Anonymous No.101328402
>>101328377
>voting
Anonymous No.101328410 >>101328430
>>101309225
she answered
Anonymous No.101328420 >>101328533
Do you guys AI generate your complaints?
Anonymous No.101328430
>>101328410
>11h ago
Anonymous No.101328433
https://poal.me/kt4w6y
Anonymous No.101328508 >>101328533 >>101328707
be me
open Ironmouse stream
she's playing some "cozy horror indie roguelike"
says it was "made by a solo dev in 3 weeks with the help of AI!"
everything looks like it was smeared in Midjourney vomit and ChatGPT diarrhea
dialogue is literally just "hello traveler, beware the fog :)"
story makes no sense
character designs are just anime girls with too many belts and random glitch effects
Ironmouse is giggling and saying "this is so cute" while it spams generic jump scares
chat is eating it up
this is the future isn't it
corporate sludge was bad enough, now it's AI sludge
no soul, no effort, just vibes and brand loyalty
mfw the vtuber with the most charisma is trapped in a procedurally generated hellscape
mfw this is what "indie" means in 2025
Anonymous No.101328522 >>101328691
Anonymous No.101328533
>>101328420
this one >>101328508 just did
Anonymous No.101328677
>>101328377
Mousefags hate ambition.
Anonymous No.101328691 >>101328702
>>101328522
still not as big as they should
Anonymous No.101328702 >>101328711
>>101328691
elaborate
Anonymous No.101328707
>>101328508
thanks grok
Anonymous No.101328711
>>101328702
they should be MASSIVE
Anonymous No.101328728 >>101328777
Excluding PLs, I am assuming vshojo trains their talent on OPSEC which is why not a single doxx happened since they were all in vshojo.
Mouse if you are here, please hire snuffy?
Anonymous No.101328766
Kys simon
Anonymous No.101328777
>>101328728
delusional
Anonymous No.101329046
https://x.com/_N0R0/status/1935125416479739961/
Anonymous No.101329124
>Mouse ending because Scuttlebutt wouldn't shut up about the DK Direct
Anonymous No.101329129 >>101329192 >>101329479
Kuro live
Anonymous No.101329130 >>101329159 >>101329194
>Raiding ai game dev
Anonymous No.101329143
red retard live
Anonymous No.101329150 >>101329220
hopefully mouse will play more ai generated slop
Anonymous No.101329159 >>101329172
>>101329130
I think that makes Mouse's stance on ai now clear. All of you can shut up about it she is fine with it in games.
Anonymous No.101329169
Mouse you know full well that if you start a collab you will not do those other things unless the others leave the collab
Anonymous No.101329172 >>101329183
>>101329159
which means shes given her blessing to make ai art and ai covers of her
Anonymous No.101329183
>>101329172
based we love ai
Anonymous No.101329192
>>101329129
Shoto must be real happy, wonder if they're gonna argue again in front of Bettel this time
Anonymous No.101329194 >>101329235
>>101329130
>used ai to generated only ghost images and nothing else
>reee ai game dev reee
Anonymous No.101329206 >>101329237 >>101329250
Mouse wanted to play some vns or fmv on stream a while ago, I hope she does one day and if she plays another fmv she uses eye tracking again, that stream was fun.
Anonymous No.101329220 >>101329257
>>101329150
She didn't play any, what are you smoking
Anonymous No.101329222
reee ai game dev reee
Anonymous No.101329235 >>101329252
>>101329194
The second game that mouse played today clearly states AI was used for images and sounds.
Anonymous No.101329237
>>101329206
this but only if the dev used ai
Anonymous No.101329240 >>101329283
>>101328023
There are no mousefags here anymore. The actual fans have moved to greener pastures. All that is left is Timmy and his #fag antis
Anonymous No.101329250
>>101329206
I want her to play that demon dick horn game on discord like was suggested the other day.
Anonymous No.101329252 >>101329265 >>101329268
>>101329235
that doesnt make it ai game
Anonymous No.101329257 >>101329268
>>101329220
The 666 game has ai art and sound as stated on the steam page.
Anonymous No.101329264
I love Ironmouse very much
Anonymous No.101329265 >>101329281
>>101329252
yes it does
Anonymous No.101329267 >>101329302
Wait till bbno$ hears about this ironmouse!!!
Anonymous No.101329268
>>101329257
>>101329252
Anonymous No.101329281 >>101329310 >>101329318 >>101329329 >>101329331
>>101329265
no it does not
by your broken logic any game, whether its aaa or indie is ai game now
Anonymous No.101329283 >>101329409
>>101329240
Anon you know that’s not true, and you’re not helping by pretending everyone you don’t agree with is an anti.
Anonymous No.101329291
odd how mouse is fine raiding a random 2 view but still refuses to raid any of nova.
Anonymous No.101329302
>>101329267
Anonymous No.101329310 >>101329457
>>101329281
if it uses generative ai then yeah
Anonymous No.101329318 >>101329457
>>101329281
nta but yes either case is. if steam lists it that way then it is
Anonymous No.101329329 >>101329372
>>101329281
Nta but this is the same reason Mouse stopped playing a game half way and made a whole thing about it and apologised for keeping playing.
I don’t care if she plays games with ai but she made a point set her hard stance on it that day.
Anonymous No.101329331 >>101329457
>>101329281
If the game uses AI generated content then yes by definition that is true. As Mouse herself said: pay artists.
Anonymous No.101329343 >>101332623
Reminder that cunny should be embraced
Anonymous No.101329364
Wouldn't it be so fucking funny.
Anonymous No.101329372 >>101329388 >>101329432
>>101329329
mouse only cared then because someone big enough noticed and made it a public thing. no one who matters will do the same this time so she can ignore it like she always does.
Anonymous No.101329388
>>101329372
mouse has always been critical of generative ai
Anonymous No.101329409
>>101329283
Whatever you say timmy
Anonymous No.101329412 >>101329460 >>101329541
Anonymous No.101329413 >>101329433 >>101329440 >>101329460 >>101329541 >>101329567
If this is about the game Mouse you ignoring it doesn't fix the issue. You need to address it.
Anonymous No.101329432 >>101329515
>>101329372
She should have ignored it back then too in my opinion. But she’s happy to let random people on twitter and haters that send her horrible messages control what she does or says.
Anonymous No.101329433 >>101329467
>>101329413
You need to kill yourself
Anonymous No.101329440 >>101329485
>>101329413
ideally mouse apologizes again and actually follows her promise to check the steam page disclosure first instead of ignoring it
Anonymous No.101329457
>>101329310
>>101329318
>>101329331
>t. retards who have no idea what they are talking about
Anonymous No.101329460 >>101329588
>>101329412
>>101329413
yep she just realized she spent half a stream hyping ai slop
Anonymous No.101329467
>>101329433
Mouse made her stance well known multiple times now. Ignoring that she went against it would be showing she doesn't care about the most basic morals and stance she has. Support artists. It isn't even that big of a deal just say sorry I was excited to play and forgot to check
Then promise to do better next time. Easy.
Anonymous No.101329474
ai derangement syndrome thread
Anonymous No.101329479 >>101329497
>>101329129
The last time Kuro played Elden Ring is when he raged over the fire giant
https://files.catbox.moe/o447ad.mp4
Anonymous No.101329485
>>101329440
Ideally you'd kill yourself but seems we both will walk away disappointed
Anonymous No.101329497
>>101329479
His rage is hilarious
Anonymous No.101329511
Rrat: froot is taking a long break from creating a yab bashing AI art.
Anonymous No.101329515
>>101329432
I’m partially worried this is why we lost degenerate Mouse, someone criticized her for being lewd either publicly or in dms so she changed for people who likely didn’t watch, while her actual viewers were happy with her being herself.
Anonymous No.101329541 >>101329618
>>101329412
>>101329413
I told you guys mouse would be upset when she realized it used ai. I'm glad it happened off stream though so she can deal with that in peace without you idiots seeing it.
Anonymous No.101329550 >>101329581
Kuro said he is not going to half ass the NSFW content. He'll be getting a Patreon with different tiers, and also getting new mods to ensure his Twitch channel stays comfy. Hopefully he will remove Mystri as mod
Anonymous No.101329567
>>101329413
It would be the best if she just ignore it because nobody gives a fuck
Anonymous No.101329570 >>101329641 >>101329714 >>101329845
why is mouse sad posting on twitter
Anonymous No.101329581
>>101329550
I’m getting more and more jealous of k9s every day.
Anonymous No.101329588 >>101329618
>>101329460
cope
Anonymous No.101329593 >>101329633 >>101329640
In mousey's defense: Would it really have changed anything if the game was handcrafted slop? You can never really tell with all the steam kusoge games wheter they're traditionally made or heavily gen ai made. She's being too harsh on herself
Anonymous No.101329618
>>101329541
>>101329588
Anonymous No.101329626 >>101329663
>use ai to write code
>no one's bothered
>use ai to make assets
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
retards
Anonymous No.101329633
>>101329593
It is labelled on the steam page but she likely didn't notice and just bought it because she liked the previous game the guy made. It is an honest mistake and an easy thing to fix. Just make sure to check the store page of all future games first. Takes 2 seconds.
Anonymous No.101329640 >>101329769
>>101329593
i don’t care if the game was ai, bad slop is bad slop. if you pick a side though follow through. it comes off as incredibly fake otherwise and shows you’re just doing something for good boy internet points
Anonymous No.101329641 >>101329698 >>101329814
>>101329570
It could be literally anything, but retarded luddites itt seriously think that it's about that horror game that she played, just because couple of images were generated with so called "AI".
Anonymous No.101329663
>>101329626
Exactly.
Anonymous No.101329672
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Connor that suggested that game to her just to ruin her reputation
Anonymous No.101329685
Anonymous No.101329698 >>101329814
>>101329641
>p-please support my ai art patreon :(
Anonymous No.101329706
Remember when Mouse used to tweet out random emojis?
I always liked to think that she did that after a good goon session.
Anonymous No.101329710
the obvious guess for mouse being sad is connor once again cancelling on her as is the norm now
Anonymous No.101329714 >>101329814 >>101329867 >>101329991
>>101329570
She didn't know a thing and started getting shit for it, but she doesn't also adress it because she's too big and it would raise all kinds of more shit.
Anonymous No.101329720 >>101329824
Jesus is he gonna bitch about this game all day now
Anonymous No.101329727
Hey Ironmouse,

I’ve been a fan of your streams for a long time, and I truly admire how creative and entertaining you are. You've built such a unique vibe and community β€” it’s been awesome to watch it grow!

That said, I wanted to share some honest feedback about the recent increase in AI-related content or AI-assisted segments on stream. While I totally get that AI is a hot topic and can be fun or helpful in moderation, it’s started to feel like it’s taking away a bit from you β€” your personality, spontaneity, and that signature Ironmouse energy that makes your content special.

Whether it’s AI voice filters, automated responses, or even AI-generated skits, sometimes it feels a little too polished or disconnected. One of the reasons people watch you is for you, not for a machine’s take on things.

Of course, it’s your stream and you should experiment and evolve however you see fit β€” just wanted to share this as one viewer’s perspective. Hope it helps, and thanks for always putting in so much effort.

Much love
Anonymous No.101329742 >>101329809
Kson basically had lesbian sex on stream today and I only see 2 posts about it
You retards need help
Anonymous No.101329766
da boiz time
Anonymous No.101329769 >>101329898
>>101329640
The annoying part is that there are literally too many games coming out that mouse wants to play. She can ignore any ai she wants for years and never want for more games. It is her choice to drop her pro artists side the moment she wants to play random game #63773
Anonymous No.101329791 >>101329870 >>101329913 >>101330140
Good heavens, this isn't Twitter
Lets post less text
Anonymous No.101329809
>>101329742
Did she fuck Ai tho
Anonymous No.101329814 >>101329868
>>101329641
>>101329698
>>101329714
man i'm not for AI art in games but she streams so much crap for literally dozens of hours at a time

we're also at the tipping point like even my dumb ass can generate these things like it's too accessible now
Anonymous No.101329824
>>101329720
he started to bitch about the game like an hour ago, if not even more, so yeah, he will keep bitching this whole day
Anonymous No.101329832 >>101329858 >>101329862 >>101329983
I remember when this general was good.
Anonymous No.101329845
>>101329570
All the dogshit games she loves are made with loving creative hands of AI.
Anonymous No.101329858
>>101329832
yes, it was a long time ago
Anonymous No.101329862
>>101329832
We have like 2-3 thread shitters
and If people did what the last sentence in the OP said it'll be good again but almost no one does it
Anonymous No.101329867
>>101329714
It also sucks because she ended up over hyping it following the dev and then raiding him. She can't really just take that back now. Luckily no one who matters cares or knows so she could just sweep it under and be more vigilant next time.
Anonymous No.101329868
>>101329814
>man i'm not for AI art in games
And I don't give a shit if the result looks alright.
Anonymous No.101329870
>>101329791
God Mouse is so sexy
Anonymous No.101329898 >>101329927
>>101329769
her plan was still wakes the deep dlc or fnaf and it turned into slop after a sponsor. its her own retarded fault
Anonymous No.101329913
>>101329791
I want lewdish mmds like in the old days but made to this level of quality.
Anonymous No.101329921
Anonymous No.101329927 >>101329952 >>101329963
>>101329898
Trading slop for slop. The sponsor would have been the best part of the stream either way.
Anonymous No.101329952 >>101330010
>>101329927
fnaf maybe but still wakes the deep was actually a solid game outside of the performance issues
Anonymous No.101329963 >>101329978 >>101330040
>>101329927
Nta and I like non gaming more but still wakes the deep and fnaf were good games form Mouse to play. Good horror is they best gaming streams Mouse does.
Anonymous No.101329978 >>101330029
>>101329963
vr exists
Anonymous No.101329983
>>101329832
I propose we bring back nyangoslings and veikings to restore us to our glory days. I'd say bring back the silverfags too but they didn't exist here until after she left, curiously.
Anonymous No.101329985 >>101330053 >>101330140
Anonymous No.101329990
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1935310442051912078
Anonymous No.101329991
>>101329714
>and started getting shit for it
itt alone, by one cry baby - you
nobody gives a fuck about your bitching
Anonymous No.101330005 >>101330027 >>101330140
Anonymous No.101330010
>>101329952
>outside of the performance issues
Slop Engine 5's fault.
Anonymous No.101330027 >>101330077 >>101330088
>>101330005
I wish I had a little ironmouse around my apartment that was like a little wife (non sexual) but I could still cuddle her and she could sit in my lap (non sexual)
Anonymous No.101330029
>>101329978
Tbf I don’t class vrchat as gaming it’s more like a hang out and yes vrchat is better and even better when we get some solo vrchat.
Anonymous No.101330040 >>101330071
>>101329963
>still wakes the deep and fnaf were good games
zombie rancher simulator and zombie train simukator tier
Anonymous No.101330053
>>101329985
I miss waifu Mouse
Anonymous No.101330059
Anonymous No.101330067
I wish I had a little Geega around my apartment that was like a little wife (sexual) but I could still cuddle her and she could sit in my lap (sexual)
Anonymous No.101330071 >>101330087
>>101330040
>bait used to be believable
Anonymous No.101330077
>>101330027
I’d be happy with the slightly flirty Mouse we used to have.
Anonymous No.101330084
Anonymous No.101330087
>>101330071
sorry i never watched markaplier
Anonymous No.101330088 >>101330140 >>101330141 >>101330198
>>101330027
Anonymous No.101330118
Anonymous No.101330136
Anonymous No.101330140
>>101330088
>>101330005
>>101329985
>>101329791
Fuck all this ai shit, more sexy/cute Mouse stuff please.
Anonymous No.101330141 >>101330223
>>101330088
this was peak
Anonymous No.101330193 >>101330232
less sperging, more tits
Anonymous No.101330198 >>101330268
>>101330088
mouse needs to lean into gfe more the little scraps we get are not nearly enough
Anonymous No.101330223
>>101330141
It should have 1 million more views, if it wasn't for those motherfuckers abusing youtube copyright
Anonymous No.101330232
>>101330193
Amen to that
also is the site shitting itself? It's kinda slow for me
Anonymous No.101330263
Anonymous No.101330268 >>101330348
>>101330198
pretty sure they stopped because they care about vibing more than chat being AYO HUH AYO HUH AYO HUH
Anonymous No.101330273
Well at this point mouse either addresses this next stream and reaffirms her stance or ignores it and takes it back. Either way you should all be accepting of whatever choice she makes.
Anonymous No.101330299 >>101330332
still going on about it
Anonymous No.101330313
Anonymous No.101330332
>>101330299
told you, he will keep bitching this whole day till his bedtime
Anonymous No.101330348 >>101330397
>>101330268
Nta but der chat didn’t do that as much back then because she was lewd often.
Anonymous No.101330359
Anonymous No.101330397
>>101330348
>der chat
Anonymous No.101330483
Anonymous No.101330508
Anonymous No.101330660 >>101330926 >>101330947
I will expose IM today
Anonymous No.101330764
Anonymous No.101330893
Zen awake
Anonymous No.101330926 >>101330947
>>101330660
little late after she played another ai game dontcha think?
Anonymous No.101330947 >>101330985
>>101330660
>>101330926
Can both of you fuck off already?
Anonymous No.101330985 >>101331096
>>101330947
Dirty AI lover
Anonymous No.101331096
>>101330985
Are you trying to flirt with me?
Anonymous No.101331110
Kuro is a huge nostalgiafag
Anonymous No.101331141 >>101331172 >>101331283
I'm running out of pics
Anonymous No.101331172 >>101331193
>>101331141
weak
Anonymous No.101331187 >>101331305
Anonymous No.101331193
>>101331172
:(
Anonymous No.101331233 >>101331544 >>101331728 >>101332081
Just saw the new DK direct and it's very Mouse Monke coded lol
Anonymous No.101331283
>>101331141
There is an infinite number of pics
Anonymous No.101331305
>>101331187
Time to dive in
Anonymous No.101331544
>>101331233
Disgusting never post again.
Anonymous No.101331688
Anonymous No.101331728
>>101331233
Fuck off scuttlebutt you robbed what little Mouse moans we got.
Anonymous No.101331908 >>101332037 >>101332208 >>101332271 >>101332318 >>101333032
https://x.com/Arielle_VT/status/1935358595237073208
Anonymous No.101332010
dumb bimbo angel playing Hitman
Anonymous No.101332037
>>101331908
New hammur
Anonymous No.101332081 >>101332259
>>101331233
A raging monke, carrying a tiny little singer through the whole game. The writers for sure are fans
Anonymous No.101332208
>>101331908
Ha!
We're being baited
Anonymous No.101332259
>>101332081
I mean lol
Anonymous No.101332271
>>101331908
If this is true, this would be the shittiest teaser of all time.
Anonymous No.101332318 >>101332386
>>101331908
when is the vshojo event at offkai?
Anonymous No.101332386 >>101332470
>>101332318
21st
Anonymous No.101332470 >>101332586
>>101332386
why is ari joining a day before?
Anonymous No.101332524 >>101332696 >>101333035
Someone needs to tell Zen to stop complaining about sponsors on stream, especially right before you actually start the sponsor kek
Anonymous No.101332585 >>101332642 >>101332668
>Michi complete losing it when being called
>pathetic
>a wretch
>submissive
>dirty
>by a dommy mommy
Numi doesn't have a chance
Anonymous No.101332586
>>101332470
To prep the festivities.
Anonymous No.101332623
>>101329343
Good post
Anonymous No.101332642
>>101332585
Anonymous No.101332668
>>101332585
looks like a drag queen
Anonymous No.101332696
>>101332524
Zen is retarded then conplains why people don't sponsor her kek
Anonymous No.101332794 >>101332845 >>101332942 >>101332971 >>101333058
https://www.youtube.com/live/DpK9L8c3z4Y
matara is live
Anonymous No.101332827 >>101332949
Michi started the stream by saying that she doesn't get horny.
Now she's proving the opposite
Anonymous No.101332845
>>101332794
damn you tricked me, I have to listen to it now
Anonymous No.101332942
>>101332794
Just because she is Ukrainian doesn't mean she is Matara.
Anonymous No.101332949
>>101332827
holy shit, she's still going
Anonymous No.101332971 >>101333000 >>101333196
>>101332794
I've been listening to Vallure asmr lately because nobody in vshojo besides Froot does it. But you should still think about a more creative way to shill them here.
Anonymous No.101333000
>>101332971
nta, but this one in particular did some interesting dj streams
Anonymous No.101333032
>>101331908
It's her new model, we're saved
Anonymous No.101333035 >>101333089 >>101333093
>>101332524
For the reatards
Zen complained about management again but she specifically mentioned it's UTA not Vshojo this time
saying they get mad at her with sponsors because she takes them but then wants to back out
so she has to do them
Anonymous No.101333058 >>101333147
>>101332794
ASMR does nothing for me.
Anonymous No.101333089
>>101333035
Love Zen, but she seems hard to work with sometimes
Anonymous No.101333093
>>101333035
>they get mad at her with sponsors because she takes them but then wants to back out
Dealing with Zen sounds like a pain.
Anonymous No.101333116
Mouses' new model is more proof she hates lewd and wants to be treated as a child
Anonymous No.101333131 >>101333163
bakers?
Anonymous No.101333147
>>101333058
give earlicking another go, maybe you haven't found the right girl yet
Anonymous No.101333163 >>101333202 >>101333203
>>101333131
I will if someone gives me a good image
Anonymous No.101333196
>>101332971
that's simon, his brain is broken so he probably actually thinks that's her
Anonymous No.101333202
>>101333163
Anonymous No.101333203
>>101333163