>>101705598 (OP)maybe if youre gay
>>101705598 (OP)Thanks for stating your opinion anon, everybody was begging to hear it
>>101705598 (OP)Going to have to agree. Gura's design was way better. This looks like Twitchtuber slop. No shark teeth or Nachoneko design is also a big miss. Even her new mascot is a downgrade.
>>101705598 (OP)unfortunately yea
Her model is cute but I can't get over how twitch coded it is. It is the exact same style as all those whore tubers on twitch with the overly plastic looking bouncy models. I don't like it.
>>101705598 (OP)Is this supposed to be Gura? Also you guys broke the Captcha kek
>>101705598 (OP)No Nacho no Buy.
>>101705598 (OP)Unfortunately I have to agree, too many things clashing together. Get rid of the ears and it would improve noticeably
>>101705878Glad you have accepted your latent homosexuality
Two fish in a barrel, can't wait for the collab
The bocchi sidetail makes no sense.
>>101705598 (OP)too busy, too plastic, too twitch
>>101705598 (OP)Design is kinda mid but mroe than anything that rigging looks disgusting. Eyes don't move like that and why is she so bouncy? I'm constantly reminded or Shylily everytime I see her moving.
>>101705598 (OP)I see she decided to pull a Selen
>>101705598 (OP)Anyone disaggreeing is either a coping chumbud or braindead slop consumer
Saba Daba Doo, cant wait for the red lobster collaboration
looks like something you would buy from booth
horrible face
you can tell the model artist is not japanese either
>>101705598 (OP)It's perfect. She'll feel right at home with the Twitch clique.
Here I fixed it
https://litter.catbox.moe/t2zan6.png
>>101705598 (OP)It's not awful, but I can't see anything memorable about it.
Like Holo or not, the shark hoodie was genius. Instantly recognizable, you could put its elements into fucking anything and people would know it's Gura.
>>101705598 (OP)This is the rigger everyone was hyping up? LMAO.
>>101706314I like Mari's outfit. It's cute. What's wrong with it?
>>101707087Not flat enough.
>>101705598 (OP)She's cute, love me some more Gura. Just.. Is she a cat or a dog?
>>101705598 (OP)So she wnated to keep the fish motif but wanted those kinds of ears, too?
>>101705598 (OP)All of that talent freedom and all of those people she mentioned came together and this was the best they came up with?
>>101706800>you can tell the model artist is not japanese either~anime inspired~ twitchslop
>>101707257From how she talked about it I got the impression that her character is fox LARPing as a fish. The tail is probably fake and perhaps a plug.
>>101707113it looks like generic indie loli model that i have seen dozen times already.
>>101705598 (OP)Saba, if you're reading this, it's not too late for a redebut
>>101707087I see your point
>>101705598 (OP)I agree, it looks really bad.
>>101705598 (OP)I wish she had taken more inspiration from JP vtubers rather than Twtichwhores
>>101705598 (OP)face looks like temu gura but the rest is fine
>>101705598 (OP)Her face looks like that one shitty 3D modeller that used to get tons of work with indies and vshojo girls. I forgot his name. Shame because both artists she used aren't even bad artists, I just don't get what went wrong with the model itself
>>101705598 (OP)That awful design + her obvious incoming ghosting is going to destroy her hype
>>101705598 (OP)design is cute, face is cute, but I don't think the artist did an amazing job with the shorts or tummy
>>101705598 (OP)shut the fuck up pekofrogposter
>>101705598 (OP)Why are her arms so stiff? Why are her pants just a straight horizontal bar stretching across her lower body? Why do her ears look like they're just floating behind her and not actually connected to the head?
>>101705772With that body, that could easily be a boy crossdressing
>>101705598 (OP)OP here. I meant to post peak design but im a retarded nigger sorry guys
>>101705598 (OP)>>101706031>>101706138>>101706237>>101706417>>101707113>>1017077It's mid, I'm disappointed, the design is generic and the rigging is over animated, I didn't expect it to be like this.
It's a dog? A cat? A fish?
She's sexy but I'm still confused what animal ears those are and if she's supposed to be like a mammal/fish hybrid or what.
>>101707924Yes, I thought she would do that, she would pay to japanese artists maybe, but no, fuck generic twitch model fuck it
>>101705598 (OP)Everyone negative about the rigging of this design has undiagnosed BPD and I encourage you all to seek therapy.
>>101706800Glad I wasn't the only one, there's something off about her face and can't I figure what it is.
The rest looks good, albeit a tad generic, almost Twitch-friendly design.
>>101706800>model artist isn't japanese>model artist: https://x.com/shiina_2256
What is the excuse of the VTuber community not being full of pedophiles now that the largest fanbase in the West is a fanbase of an obvious loli model and they will shout cunny cunny at Con, showing their merch collection full of nsfw of a loli girl showing her panties, pussy and getting fucked
>>101705598 (OP)That is a child.
>>101705878unfortunately, yes
>>101708791desu I didn't like this part, it was unnecessary
>>101705598 (OP)yeah, should be like that
>>101708845What are you trying to prove by cherrypicking screenshots?
>>101708917homosexual detected
>>101708575no excuse needed unless you're a faggot
>>101709063A faggot would love loli than a normal people
>>101705598 (OP)It looks like shit. The art was way better. But the rigging sucks the most imo. Makes her look like a cartoon for kids instead of anime.
>>101705598 (OP)She wouldn't have this problem if she actually consumed otaku media and wasn't a complete normie
>>101708501Just because someone has japanese in bio doesnt mean they are japanese
>>101709319>pedopandering to the extreme>normieWhat the fuck
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>>101707420At this point I expected a banger debut, some lore, some schedule, a better presentation and Idk, that was weird
>>101709324You could just admit you're wrong instead of saying that someone that speaks almost entirely in japanese on their Twitter isn't Japanese.
>>101705598 (OP)HAHAHAHH DILATE OUTFIT FAGGOT
>>101705598 (OP)This is your chance to interact with the real cover employee! How are the view botting accusations going in court? Inb4 n-no I just hate her design everyone hate her! Buy hololive merchuuuuu
>>101709324>Artist Joined March 2012>Most of the tweets are japsYeah, he/she is Yasuke nigger from Wakaliwood land.
>>101705598 (OP)Did she shit on Hololive? If yes, I will watch her. If not, I will not.
>>101705598 (OP)>cat>has a shark tail?
>>101706314Look at that burqa
>loli vtuber before hololive
>loli vtuber after hololive
>twittards are surprised and disappointed
come on guys
>>101707420>>101709500she's #1 for a reason, everything you want and expect is retarded
>>101705598 (OP)>nekopara reject>Poko's boring sister>generic "soft" loli indie design/rigging>instant monetization>"new vtuber who dis" btw>looks even more corpo than any indie and especially guraS L O P
>>101710526most straw grasping post I've read in my life but
>looks even more corpo than any indie and especially guraespecially made me lol
>>101705598 (OP)Glad I finally understood why Cover kept pushing for retakes to polish the design. Just like with Sakuna, hiring a Holo artist never guarantees a decent design.
>>101705598 (OP)It doesn't have the same brat energy and vibes as gura, steep downgrade but at least it's not terrible
>>101710640cover is a sinking ship
>>101710652Yeah, 3.0 Gura had much better facial rigging imo
>>101705598 (OP)you should kill yourself just like you killed whatever post was at the bottom of the catalog
>>101710526>looks even more corpo than any indie and especially guraYeah, no one actually thinks sheโs indie.
>>101709324I hate people like you, that know they're wrong but keep arguing because they're retarded and stubborn
I like it
t. professional coomer
>>101710652It is way brattier than gura
>>101708198It is pretty generic, it suffers from literally the same issue that Nimi's model does. These artists just aren't creative enough by themselves I suppose
The shorts come off dont they
>>101706720now that's a classic I haven't seen in a while
>>101710837Nah, no shark teeth, and she just looks cute
>>101710621Saba is literally just a generic inoffensive anime girl using an amalgamation of popular design traits. That's exactly what corpos want. I can find a more daring design on a box of chi-fi IEMs, even my local anime club full of shonentards can come up with something more fappable.
>>101710652I feel more this ''brat energy vibes'' in Gura and even in senzawa's design, Saba is more cute but anyway, I don't like it
>>101711033corpos shy away from cunny and barely give it lipservice even though it's in the highest demand
>>101705598 (OP)Generic and twitch as fuck
Why is the model so pale. Isn't goobs supposed to be a flip or something?
What, is she self-hating or something?
>>101711203She's Jewish American
>>101711269if that was the case she'd have khazar milkers
>>101711203she's white, I know it's rare for vtubers and surprising, but it's true
>>101711418It's true, jannies will delete
>>101711203Where do you retards come from? She's as white as you can get, and yes she has Jewish heritage
>>101708303No kidding, the rigging was so good I thought it was Dyarikku's at first but Cellia makes sense.
>>101711499>jewish girl>nice voice Lmao no
>>101705598 (OP)TuT this is so sad
>>101709057Don't lump us fags in with these losers I love cock and saba.
>>101711570Go listen to her mom talk on stream
>>101708845LOL the mouth breather design was pure pass.
>>101705598 (OP)can someone edit the ears off
>>101709258Highly disagree.
>>101705598 (OP)It's generic but whatever. It's functional
The tail's animation is gorgeous, though. It's rigged insanely well. It's a real shame you'll never see it.
A lot of really dumb opinions around these parts
A little too young, even for me
>>101711719>It's genericShe is one of the definitive vtubers. She sets the standard. You call thing "generic" when your measuring stick is the standard she herself has set
>>101705598 (OP)The whole thing felt completely scripted
>reveal this info at this time>answer this question at this time>shill merch on debut at this time>talk about this at this timeActually feel bad for her fans that were so desperate for her to return as a chill vidya streamer.
'Saba' has been specifically engineered for money.
>>101705598 (OP)This is more up your alley
>>101708933>jpgwhy bother with anything not a png
>>101711789Anon she's a generic anime loli
The tail and ears are the closest thing to something that stands out. She's got giant twintails and a simple white dress.
Sure, Gura went well, and this will work too, but you can't seriously tell me that the Saba design is creative.
>>101705772FPBP
>>101708845Huge upgrade, super noticeable when you put it side by side
>>101711734Straight up retards in this thread. Lots of them don't even know she was white or whatever.
>>101706358I think it's there so that they could put a blue triangle-shaped hair ribbon there as a subtle nod to her roots
>>101705772Pedos are so desperate for their mental damage to be considered normal they'll really call you gay for not liking prepubescents, crazy cope
>>101705598 (OP)And here is the damage control so I take it that the debut was a success then, also break 4 chan again.
>>101711269are there many jews in the midwest?
>>101712241It's a good stink, though
Share me her NSFW art link, I bet that there are several on the internet already.
>>101712508She's from Nantucket niggy
So Gura left Hololive because she wanted an even more pedobait model? Good fucking riddance, don't need that shit infesting Hololive
>>101706358I can tell you're a big zoom zoom by how you immediately associated her side tail with Bocchi the Reddit instead of anyone else.
>>101712827Least obvious Nijisanji watcher
>>101712602I went poking at the gelbooru. There's a lot of official looking stuff from leaks dating back to last month?
>>101705598 (OP)Fubuki fused with Fuwawa?
>>101705598 (OP)Are you fags being fags again?
>>101705772fellas is is gay to not like an 8 year old girl?
>>101713200Why would you even question this?
Yes.
>>101705598 (OP)Her hololive rig was objective awful, don't fall for nostalgia
>>101711896no idea who she is but the pink one on the far right would get it
>>101705772Okay, pedophile. Also her head is super long and huge it looks out of place with the proportions
>>101713294Isn't that just Mouse?
>>101713381oh ffs is it? she is always changing models so maybe it is her
>>101713269The rig was worse but the model was objectively better and less generic, it also fit her personality better
>>101713269Who gives a shit about the rig? Gura's design was iconic and beautiful in it's simplicity. This new one is your typical overly loud plastic looking twitch slop design.
holofag coping so hard while indie chads got another titan that no longer moves stiff as shit because of corpo incompetency
I just REALLY wish the ears wasn't there.
>>101713324You lost, outfitschizo.
>>101705598 (OP)I said she looks like a fuwawa had a retarded baby with peo on the tower website and it got deleted, I wasn't aware that website was ran by actual simps.
>>101713546That model is associated with hololive and instantly makes it bad, should've been more different even
>>101713798>non holos in the holo site>wonders why it got deleted
>>101713798that place is an actual fucking joke constantly pretending they're cool when no, they're not, they're a bunch of fucking babies who want a playpen and pretend real hard they don't. only fags use tower end of fucking story.
instead of the catdog ears she should have gone for like the fishfin elf ear sort of look
>>101705598 (OP)She looks like a typical Twitch "vtuber" now, overanimated and overexposed, with an exaggerated cutesy look. None of the uniqueness and tastefulness that Gura had. I'm honestly disappointed, I thought she could do better than this.
>Holonigs are such sycophants they actually hate good models purely because Hololive doesnt have any
Total Corpo Holocaust
kiwisisters malding hard right now
>>101714248The only niggers I see complaining are the usual twitter suspects who clearly don't watch streams
>>101714171You mean, she looks high quality and animated? Why are you so accustomed to low quality, wooden models Holo gives you? You remind me of a nintendo fan who defends dumbed down games with subpar features because it's nintendo
>itt holofans like the same trash quality models and rigging because they like to be parted from their wallets
The findomming is very real
>>101708845Someone post Hammerhead Gura.
>>101714431It's all in the design. Is the "rig" better on the new model? Sure, but the design is loud, exaggerated, messy, and generic. Gura was an iconic design that was beautiful in it's simplicity. That is what happens though when you go from professional japanese artists to retarded western fan artists. The new design is such a mess.
Keep Gura's character sheet, retweak the design and get a halfway-decent rigger and a different artist. There, I solved Gura. The issue with Saba isn't that her design is bad, it's actually really nice, and the rigging is really really good, it's that it fails the silhouette test for memorable design. You could not in good faith fail to detect Gura's funny penis head design, but for Saba it's not as obvious.
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>>101714642>that design>loud and exaggeratedhere's something more your style
but this board told me she hates Pedo
>>101714642Oh nonsense, what are even talking about. Baka anon
>>101714171Exactly, I hate it
>>101714344not just them lmao
>>101714027mad he can't derail threads ^
>>101714431Nintendo and Holos are both good because 'creatives' are re*ards. They curate a consistent experience instead
>>101705598 (OP)I doesnt fit, its overly cute in a generic, cloying manner. I dont really care about gura so I'm not especially attached to her prior design but the shark teeth were unique and fit with a tomboy who has a degenerate mind. I think hololive actually analyses peoples personalities before designing them (I wonder if that was true of EN gen 1 too) while this feels like gura said "I want to be a cute fish",
>>101714745>Lolicon wasn't always a part of animemost intelligent kiwitranny
>>101705598 (OP)Gura looked more anime and the ears are silly.
>>101714248It's a technically better model and rigging
Just loses aesthetically to base gura design
>>101714843Gura's model was a very simplified design from the first few years of the vtuber industry when the technology was simple. It's like the Ford model 1 compared to a modern vehicle
>>101714974yes but her design still looked more anime
>>101705598 (OP)It's same with Nimi โ why do indies always feel the need to cram in a bunch of random traits and end up ruining the whole design?
>>101714431A vtuber's model shouldn't jiggle like it's made out of rubber, it should follow the person behind it, and not any more than that, or it gets distracting and silly.
But tracking is not the real issue here; the design is. Saba is generic. A blonde loli straight outta some mesugaki doujin that kinda tries to channel Gura's original design, nothing about her is memorable or interesting. This is a problem with all ex-HoloENs, they all do this (rather pathetic) attempt at replicating their own old designs and failing.
Hololive is so good at design because they can afford to pay famous character designers who don't necessarily do Vtubers. Meanwhile, indies always use the same small cast of Live2D artists, and all look the same to the point that they seethe about it behind the scenes (see: Sinder). Gura was unique and memorable, even her scuffed tracking was iconic. Saba is just a loli who moves and looks like every other indie.
>>101705598 (OP)if this is supposed to be gura this looks like a downgrade or some wal-mart off brand of the inspired design [sea enjoyer?](what is she supposed to be exactly with this model?)
>>101715312Nimi and most of the ex holos literally used the same artists that drew their Hololive models dipshit
>>101715312It's a great design and it's the one she wanted which makes it perfect. It's a massive upgrade in every way from the gura model.
>Hololive is so good at designAre they though? Get the stars out of your eyes for a second and look at things more objectively.
>even her scuffed tracking was iconicSee there you go, defending scuff and broken features just because "it's hololive". Holofags really are the nintendo fans of the vtuber world
>Saba is just a loli who moves and looks like every other indie.She is incredibly cute, it might be the cutest model I've ever seen
Twitch indie rigging moves like this desu
>>101715519insert kiara and ollie here
>>101715312Perfectly stated. Hololive are really the masters when it comes to vtuber design. The designs are so good you can instantly recognize the vtuber just from a display of their colors.
Usually we got good designs ruined by dumb talentless women
Now we got a 5/10 design played by recognized and experienced woman
Sometimes life is crazy
>>101715312Hololive hasnโt been good at designs since HoloX. Dev_IS designs all fucking awful.
>>101715230That's just modern vtuber design, its a weird evolving form of peacocking to stand out in a flooded field. The other thing is the people commissioning the designs aren't art directors so their request doesnt seem to go beyond wanting to be a cute anime girl who sort of resembles their last design. nimi is a bit better then average because she is an amateur artist who came up with the concept herself and chose to infuse the design with relevant thematic and personal character traits.
>>101705598 (OP)I don't think it's an awful design. The model is awful. Imo, she needs a version 2 and a new rigger.
>>101715434Kinda ironic how it took the ex-Holos to make it clear why Cover kept forcing so many retakes on the artists. Most of them have only ever done cheap mobile game designs โ theyโve completely forgotten how to make something actually polished.
>>101712213This design is kino.
>triangle-shaped side ribbon, with similar shades of blue to the hololive dorito, and similar white-ish stripe on one side of it.She absolutely did this on purpose. She is extremely proud of her roots in hololive and wanted a symbol of it on her new model to remind you of it at all times. Pure SOUL.
>>101715514As a counterpoint look at Nimi vs Fauna. Both are good (with Nimi having better rigging) but Fauna's design is still among the best along with Chloe (vs her new model).
>>101715546Because they use a variety of colors in every gen to help make them distinct.
Designs like Kronii, Kiara, Sana, GiGi range from bad to mediocre
>>101715434And that's the fucking problem. The worst example by far was Mikeneko.
If I was in Saba's place, I would've tried to commission a designer like Take (of modern Pokemon and Gundam GQuuuuuuX fame) to make something truly unique for myself, something you won't see from any other Vtuber. It would be fucking costly, but she has the cash.
>>101715514>it's the one she wanted which makes it perfectThat's the disappointing part. Is this really as far as her imagination can go?
>See there you go, defending scuff and broken features just because "it's hololive". Holofags really are the nintendo fans of the vtuber worldIt was the case of more coming from less, because Gura's actual design was just that good.
>>101715564>modernAh, no wonder it was so forgettable.
>>101712862bait or mental retardation?
>>101715676Kiara is actually really pretty when out of her default
>>101705598 (OP)i saw some normalfags upset that it's cunny and not big booba like their favorite twitch whores. the more of these people it filters the better.
>>101715676Kronii and Sana are good, though?
>>101705598 (OP)Well, she is a jew, so it was obvious she'd cheap out.
>>101715633It's funny to me how you call Saba "generic" out of one side of your mouth, but complain she's not simple enough out the other side of your mouth.
Fauna is a generic design. Gigi is a generic design. Ineven see people defending the scuff and shittiness. Like Gura's rhombus face or her broken blinky eyes
>>101715434They aren't designed with the same priorities. hololive is analysing peoples personalities and using that to design characters with the same thought and expertise as an MC from a game or anime, this is a very different process than a random girl commissioning an often Japanese artist they can barely communicate with to request a knockoff design.
>>101715621Yeah, thatโs why notSame decided to debut right before Bibooโs big charity event. Makes sense now why she took so long to lock in a debut date.
I disagree that the model is worse but I agree that it should have been stripped down a little more, the top half of her is pretty busy, lots of eye catching elements like the ribbon and the hair bands and the collar, straps, blue stripe on her hair, ear fluff, side tail. And the rigging is over the top, every minor movement has her eyes widening like she just said the most interesting thing in the world, there's no nuance. It's very "I'm appealing to brainrotted adhd autists with no social cue experience who need displays the size of a billboard to pick up on emotions."
>>101715816She just wants Biboo to go harder on sexualizing herself. A noble goal.
>>101715230candy shop x peacocking
>>101715777simple and iconic are not mutually exclusive concepts and neither are complex and generic.
>>101715811In reality they are calling up nepo-people who are often random famous people from the anime industry and giving them an easy retirement job drawing for Holo. This way Yagoo can ingratiate himself to celebrities. Kiara's design is so unappealing for that reason
>>101715777'Generic' and 'not simple' arenโt mutually exclusive. they both apply when somethingโs soulless, like a Korean game.
>>101705598 (OP)im gonna feesh all over her tummy UOHHHHH
>>101715514>Are they thoughYes, Hololive are the masters of design. Their designs are so instantly recognizable and iconic you can instantly know the vtuber just from seeing a display of their colors.
>>101705598 (OP)I have a solution for those who don't like the design. When she streams again, put a Gura sticker on top of it.
Fuck you.
>>101705598 (OP)I just hope they tone down the rigging a bit over time. It's too bouncy all the time. The model is perfect but the bounciness is annoying.
>>101715312Her old model was ass cheeks.
>>101705598 (OP)There's just too much going on
>animal ears>small ahoge>sidetail>1 part of the bangs is blue>twintails reach her knees and are tied up with liferings>shark tail
>>101715902There's nothing wrong with using famous and experienced artists, this doesnt change the fact that the character design process resembles the same process that is done when designing characters in anime and games. kiaras design is shit because she has no personality to work with beyond annoying white woman.
>>101715546Kronii hated her design but got forced into massive melons to appeal to a specific demographic and because she's stacked irl.
Sana had an objectively terrible design and rigging and was absolutely screwed over by their artist choice. She herself could have made something better than what they gave her, and arguably, did(which makes it a real shame she never uses it) once she went her own way.
The girls shine through their behaviors and attitudes but Hololive has been well known to be a roulette for artists (the best in the business contrasted with terrible results at times) and the worst rigging in the business.
And that's to say nothing of how they screw over the homostars.
>>101716025Sadly that is the trend among indie vtubers so it isn't going to change. That is why so many of us have been complaining about the new design.
Gura went from one of the single most iconic designs in all of weeb media............to a generic twitch sloppa chuuba. This is a grim day friends.
They couldn't make a more generic model if they tried, look how similar it is to Mint's model
>>101716066>There's nothing wrong with using famous and experienced artistsHow many redesigns did Irys need again? Like 3 of them before she stopped looking like a dungeon monster?
>kiaras design is shit 2 hats is funny for about 5 minutes
>>101716025vtuber animation and design will only get more bouncy and more obnoxious over time, they are allergic to subtlety because the motivation behind it is ultimately LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME
>>101716051A sea of references, and a perfect expression of "chaotic blue dummy"
Her entire true existence is shitposting, and this character is perfect for that.
>>101716041This, the only reason I even tuned in was because I was hoping it was senzawa, sharks are cool, and I was already into hololive.
What I got was beyond my expectations content wise, but the model and design was carried by the very quick love we cultivated for our lil shark girl.
It speaks volumes that the first thing that happened was getting rid of a big design element - that silly looking hood that despite being a cute idea, was terribly designed and rigged, and ended up making her look more like the juggernaut than a shark, and giving her the silhouette of a penis.
>>101715856Hoes is noble huh
I feel like that those who shit on holo desings didnt even watch gura (or hololive). Her 3.0 was better but people kept saying the 1.0 had more soul. Or take example Chloe, her model was peak. Biggest issue that Hololive always had is the bad rigging / tracking but that is because the shit in-house tech.
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>>101705772imagine simping for this
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>Dropping Nacho
GOOD
Now Karubi, who puts real work, can finally reclaim her hard-earned crown as best daughter.
>>101714803Wasn't the term Otaku flat out coined by a lolicon? lmao
>>101716304Made for passionate Tic-Tac-Toe under the moonlight
>>101716199The new model is actual trash and I hate it. It's the same clique doing all of these designs. Give me my funny shork back.
>>101716256Gura's design was far too classy for that. It's TEMU shylily.
>>101706314Mari's is unironically better
>>101716339Lmao you fucking autist. It's one of the best models I've ever seen and you find some weird crippling autistic reason to dump on it. I swear you guys are like starwars fans
>>101716285Is this traced?
>>101716386>best models I've ever seenYou are a love struck simp. Open your fucking eyes. It's the same over designed loud garbage we see from every twitch whore these days. It's bad dude.
>>101716415Yes, and from a fucking HAG too.
>>101705598 (OP)Are you kidding me, so she's a triple species chimera?
Fish-canine(?)-Human(oid)?
>>101716339I mean it's not the rigger's fault that nobody else can make models expressive as her's
>>101716386You want to own the holokeks so bad lmao
>>101716444Look how cute it is anon. Ive never seen anything that cute in my life. It's literally the cutest model I've ever seen. In case you were wondering what she was going for.
I see people here complaining she's not a tomboy with a frumpy haircut like before
>>101705598 (OP)It feels both basic and overcooked, which is an achievment in itself. Vastly inferior to Gura's, that's for sure.
>>101708845So is it Gura or not?
>>101705598 (OP)I know it's pride month and all but come on now
>>101715546hololive is shit at character design, they are just better than the absolute bottom of the barrel slop that exists everywhere else. I have yet to see any designs beside maybe raden who I would look twice at outside the vtuber sphere and even then that's only with the imperial japanese cape and noh mask on
>>101716549This is a retarded post. You clearly don't understand what vtubers are or the appeal of them. Find another hobby.
Literally went the "How can I essentially clone Gura, but more pedobaity?"
The people who think Saba's design is better than Gura's are probably the same people you see online who jerk themselves off over Persona 5. They are taken in by all the cool screen transitions and "stylish" effects and go "wow, that is good". In actuality a game like Dragon Quest XI is a much more down-to-earth RPG. Better in design and better in execution. Beautiful in it's simplicity.
Gura = Dragon Quest XI
Saba = Persona 5 (along with all the rainbow haired troglodytes that love it)
>>101715562Fuwamoco's design is iconic. And Raden and AO both have good designs
>>101716594you are a porn addict trying to tell me your plastic bimbo taste is peak performance, I'm not interested in the disgusting shit you think is aesthetically appealing. Vtuber designs are back water offshoots of anime/videogame character design and always will be.
This really shows how bad of taste and fake Otaku Gura was. She could have had any artist do an amazing model but this is what she god. A sheer mess.
>>101712827Lmao
Hello Holostaffer
She looks like a bootleg Shylily who was already a ripoff
>>101705598 (OP)Ragebaiters need to be beaten to death
>>101716723Persona was always a "style over substance" game so this makes sense, lol.
I didnโt watch her stream, so when I saw that awful design in the catalog, it took me a while to accept that it was actually saba.
>>101716866To normies who aren't into vtubers, they would say all of them look like a Kizuna Ai ripoff. You're just exposing yourself as a pleb.
>>101705598 (OP)Less "awful" and more just flat out lazy.
>Fish theme>Cat ears>Loli bait>"Gremlin"She could have at least tried something interesting instead of just slapping a Twitch indie filter on what she was before
>>101716911>ragebait>>>/twitter/
>>101706031>>101708198>>101706417That's what I don't understand why do indies feel the need to overrig their models so much? Is it because they want to stand out from corpos or something. I feel like the design in itself isn't that bad but any time I see a vtuber rigged like this it always looks so fucking bad, I feel like they want to stand out from corpos but end up looking just like their indie and twitchwhore contemporaries. People who think their rigging is better like this unironically think movement = better
>>101716737>Fuwamoco's design is iconic.It sure is, they are the living proof that a great design and gimmick can be enough to be somewhat successful, even when the rest sucks.
Fanartist already are making the darn best to make her look more than gura kek
>>101717081She's reclaiming her identity from the corpo which owns her old persona.
>>101710652The truth is, she was awkward as fuck. In one year she'll watch her debut live and cringe at the random attempts at soundbytes. I felt bad for her when she started repeating them, it's the sort of thing we know the chuuba is going to drop in a couple weeks, tops.
>>101705598 (OP)A pair of fat tits would save it.
>>101717547>ReclaimingPretty sure she was set on being a catgirl and took the shark design because it was the only "animal". Then when she got her first costume she threw cat ears on it because that's what she really wanted. Being a "fish" now is literally just her trying to leech off her past identity
>>101705772Fpbp
But I agree that the design is all over the place. Cunny makes it watchable
I want to sniff Saba-chan's paper boat
>>101705598 (OP)I wonder if parrot is gonna screenshot this kek
>>101717744>literally just her trying to leech off her past identityMore likely she's just giving the fans what they expect from her.
>>101717547Made more sense when Doki did it (still looks worse than both Selen and her og), but is that how we're gonna call all the "I need my corpo given brand because my personality isn't enough to stand out with other models"?
Hell, didn't she actively want less eyes on her? Wouldn't it had make more sense for her to get a less normalfag/ironic weeb attracting model?
>>101705598 (OP)I came for loli tummy and thighs
>>101717798that makes it fappable, not watchable
>>101707257she's never gotten over Kiara shitting on her for being a 'fake cat.' That has pissed her off for years, now she's getting her revenge even though it makes zero sense.
>>101717929>didn't she actively want less eyes on her?why do you just believe every rrat
>>101705598 (OP)Why cat ears? Why is it always cat ears? Aren't you a fish-themed vtuber? I know them bothering me so much is dumb, but they feel so out of place.
>>101705598 (OP)>9headwhy do vtubers have such weird anatomy? Its got that how to draw animu tutorial look. nimi also has a ginormous lightbulb head that makes her look retarded when she takes off her hair.
normal anime characters arent like this, its an anatomical misunderstanding based on them mistaking hair for the skull.
>>101705598 (OP)Even when it comes to push the random button in a character creator she is lazy. Where is the Heterochromia? Where are the neon accents? Where is the womb tattoo?
The model, design and rigging are objectively ass. Anyone with a brain can see that. Now obviously chumbuds would still like it because they like HER. She could've come out with a PNG of a dog turd with white spots and her fans will call it cute and say that they love it. And you know what, fair. Obviously you like her so you're biased, that's fine. Just admit that's what it is. Everyone knows that's the only reason anyone would "like" this model. Who are they trying to fool? Themselves?
>>101718130She really loves cat ears, it's actually funny
>>101705598 (OP)Its literally just a blonde Gura with Kokonoes twin tails and ears. Lazy drunk design, she'll stream for a month then go on hiatus
>>101718457The new design is what happens when you hire the indie clique of shit artists and riggers to do your model. I don't know why she didn't tap into the network of professional japanese artists she probably knows. Was Nacho unavailable and if she wasn't why didn't Nacho refer her to somebody?
>>101705598 (OP)/vt/'s historic moment: the OP actually told the truth."
>>101716723Lmao look at this guy, thinking the penis silhouette is peak.
Just hate the ears. Wish it was fins or a more aquatic motif.
>>101716737>Ao >good designLOL
The design is bad but not offensive, the real shit show is the rigging, holy SOVLLESS
>>101717744Tell us you know nothing about her interests or loves without telling us you know nothing, speed run.
>>101718766>webmThanks, I hate it
>>101718130Because "Catshark" is a meme she decided on after her love and mentor, Fubuki called her catshark. One of her outfits has cat ears because she thinks they're cute. And she does what she wants.
If you're going to keep hating on Saba then I'm going to keep saying Shachimu has real autism.
>>101718845Well get used to it, people are already praising it in this very thread. You're witnessing a new shit standard being set in real time.
>>101705598 (OP)It's pretty good. Nothing can compare to IRyS though.
>>101709500I wanted a model display, basic info, fan name options and the closed stream. 5 minutes later a guerilla necrodancer stream using the gura dlc.
>>101707529Honestly thinking the same thing. I will kneel if next year she lets the cat out of the bag (or fox in this case.)
>>101716199this applies to all anime
>>101714248>>101714431>The graphics are better so Luigi's Mansion 3 is better than Luigi's Mansion 1
>>101705598 (OP)I dont even like gura and I cant draw anime, I did this purely as an experiment to see if I could fix the parts of her face that trigger repulsion and cute aggression in me.
>>101721693It's already better. Got rid of the generic "twitch indie" slop face.
>>101721693Actually better
>>101705598 (OP)it's really bad yeah. this is going to debuff her
>>101721693the more circular head is a huge improvement. I dont fully like the eyes, but I see the potential
>>101721693Massive improvement. Some shitter anon on 4chan can do a better job than the indie clique garbage that actually designed her, lol.