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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2uWeTNN4KA
>>101758858saba, please pick these leeches off. it's not a good look.
>>101758928maybe when dooby's ISP isn't at war with her
>>101758858What the hell is vbridger?
>>101758991face tracking software
>>101759096Saba looking at my pp
>>101759096Saba looking at fanart that haggifies her
>>101759159Saba looking at my pp
Is Saba a lonely loli god?
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>>101758820 (OP)In 2020, I suffered from severe chronic pain, obesity and generally hated life (horrible childhood). In sept 2021 I found gura and she helped me realize that thereโs more to life than just suffering. Now my life is in a much better spot, I lost weight, dealt with the chronic pain , and took university more seriously, people seem to like me now. Watching saba sing today made me realize my life may have went down a dark turn. I guess I donโt wanna be a schizo but she unironically changed my life. Things were so bleak back then, she was the only person I could watch since the pain and obesity kept me in bed a lot. Saba is like a bright light in the dark
>>101758858>It's facial tracking softwareI don't understand. Is he dunking on her or something? Tracking software rivalry?
>>101759346Not everything is an own or an insult
>>101759346i think it's meant more as a self own because they can tell what kind of face tracker the person is using because they watch so many vtubers and can tell the difference between the different kinds of face tracking software used.
>>101759384hfw you want to pump 4 kids in her
>>101759552Let me call mama fish for her opinion on it
>>101759533sexualidad
>>101758820 (OP)https://x.com/SevilleEthan1/status/1939439145669345585 bros...
>>101759552wonder if the spider creeping was all an act to bring up the spider story just so she could slip the hates kids thing smoothly
>>101759456Okay. I see now that it's the Low Effort Clips dude so that makes sense.
>>101759658she only slipped in the hates kids meme to cover for the fact that she actually had a kid during her last two years at hololive
Who else is rewatching her karaoke because they can?
>three gold play buttons
>>101759741I didnโt realize how much I missed her voice till now
>>101759607kek posting that under her art tag is crazy work
>>101759777she probably saved it in her secret folder.
How do I become friends with a fellow Kaniki?
So is she still sick or what?
>>101759898Thought this was pregnant art for a split second...
>>101759762Same. Whatever shape she's in, I just want to hear her sing.
>>101759929I commissioned the dude that made this to do a Saba version.
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https://x.com/2Backup4now/status/1939087038931980529
i'm so glad i'll be able to get the merch without having to buy from scalper cucks
opening preorder was a smart move
>>101760323Let's call that a tie
>>101760387No kids, right?
So she's fine with anal, yes?
>>101759715Guy who made this caved and deleted it and the Ina pic
How many lewd images of her have you saved in the last 24 hours?
>>101760451Kids are optional for her
Anal is mandatory
>>101759326LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO!
But seriously, I'm happy that you're feeling better, bud.
>>101760468Only a handful since most were posted after I went to bed.
>>101760393seems like it.
>>101760468zero, they were either not my taste or AI (trash)
>>101760468i only save wholesome and funny images.
I hope Kay Yu adds a nod to ash again, like an item or a collab.
>>101760588>Yes I'm going to call my fanbase the Kani Krew. Is there a problem?
>>101759326>Saba is like a bright light in the darkthat's why she's a lighthouse keeper
can she make money off her karaoke's? or do they get claimed?
>Hail Saba, still the Same
>The Doob is with thee
>Blessed art thou amongst lolis
>And blessed is the fruit of thy kani, /ggg/sus
>Little Saba, mother of memes
>Stream for us shrimpers, now and in the hours of EST
>a
>men
>>101760751Pretty sure karaoke streams need to be unmonetized unless every single song sung isn't copyrighted or whatever.
MACKEREL
ATLANTIS
GUREAT
AGAIN
>>101760751i'm sure some of them will get claimed. music is always a big issue when streaming.
>>101760588is that fubuki
>another friday night alone? god, you're pathetic
>>101760466do you still have the full pics
>>101759273I wouldn't let her be lonely.
>>101761034But it's Sunday
>>101761071no in my planet
>>101758820 (OP)Look. Basically I'm just not gonna stop loving Saba. I know.. UGH I know.. IM SORRY! It's just that I'm not stopping is all. Hahahaha.
>>101759326She's literally your lightkeeper anon
>>101761239Hooman bro...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBt60dfwEBY
>>101761239Gura and Mumei did the fusion dance, Saba is them.
>>101761239I liked it when Saba sang mama mia.
>>101758955lmao is that the excuse this time?
>>101761666You posted this just as I was listening to that part again.
>>101761700hell ye brother, i'm relistening to it too.
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chu chu chu
Is Saba the "perfect cell" of vtubers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpkeAQG6kQw
>>101761870Well shes more playful and chaotic like buu
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>>101761870she's the Jiren of vtubers
Would you be able to handle the combined brattiness of Gura and Saba to successfully correct them or would you cave to their teasing and get forcibly turned into a marketable mascot character
>>101761870her dad is Beerus
>>101761948It's really unfortunate that they wouldn't give Gura a better model.
Her art always looked so much better, then in streams she'd look like some sort of ET alien creature that was drawn in 2005.
>>101761945She hasn't jobbed once, why would Saba be like SHITren the Gay?
>>101761948No one could. Chumbuds, management and her gen mates all failed to correct gura alone.
>>101762059memes aside, yea. Her rigger held her back.
it was cute and wholesome seeing her nerd out over dooby until she went full weirdo. so this is her at full power...
>>101759777>workis this new twitch lingo?
>>101762375"crazy work" is ebonics for "unhinged"
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>>101762089>jobbed>in a 3v1 (they didn't even defeat him, just pushed him off the arena)GODren remains UNDEFEATED and UNMATCHED
>>101760527most noughts and crosses games end in stalemate
>>101762635UI Goku absolutely shit all over him in a 1v1 bro, he just got bailed out by Goku losing the form.
>>101762635>>101762763I love super, but there is no way you guys can take this shit seriously.
>>101762755>another off-model piece of garbageThis is gonna be the theme, isn't it? Ironics are getting giga-filtered by Saba's true cunny appeal.
>>101762854This has always been the case for Gura, and will also be the case for Saba moving forward. How are you even surprised?
So tomorrows stream is a maybe? any idea what she would be doing if that maybe was a yes?
>>101762842I don't like Super and I don't care for /dbs/pic faggotry. I just recounted what happened in the anime.
>>101762904So far it's much worse than in Gura's case.
>>101762989much more ai art floating around now
So, what happened to pipabo? Did she abandon it already? She didn't say it even once in the karaoke stream.
>>101762914if maybe is a yes it's a members stream to decide name probably
>>101762854those hips are boner inducing
>>101763096FYI, Saba specifically wants reddit faggots like you to gtfo.
>>101763059Pretty sure she did.
>>101762755She's looking at my dick in dms
>>101763010Lol the algorithm thought her crotch was at her elbow
>>101762854Personally, i'm fine with this. this is peak body type for me.
Way better than beach ball balloons tits and ass or AI that's missing her tail
>>101760703 that no one comments on, or
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her hips are small and child-like and her chest is 100% flat also like a child's, no small bumps.
>>101763219No, we're all pretty lame and stinky here.
Saba should get breast enlargement. In fact, she should move the fat from her tail into her breasts, a thin fish tail is better.
>>101763219>DOOBYYYYY!>I've waited so long to say that, that feels so good>doobydoobydoobydoobydoobydoobyFor as long as Dooby and Saba remain friends so too shall we
>>101763291You're not a fan, you don't and will never belong and Saba doesn't want you around either.
>>101763397Now that the evil corpo is no longer in the way, they can finally livestream themselves scissoring
>>101762854Be the change you want to see in the world, anon
>>101762854As far as off-model art goes, it's hardly the most egregious example.
At the very least they had the decency to make her pretty damn flat. That's the most important detail to get right besides only the tail
>>101763594It would be better if they drew Saba with big badonkadonkers and an emaciated tail.
>>101763617There will be no afterlife for you. Neither Heaven nor Hell await you. Just an eternal nothingness. Entirely conscious yet unable to act.
Repent and you may save yourself yet.
>>101763716With consciousness comes imagination. With imagination comes Saba's large breasts and thin fish tail.
>>101763793>With imagination comes Saba's large breasts and thin fish tail.I mean I got this from one of the previous threads...
>>101763793>>101763884https://files.catbox.moe/jhb0d7.jpg
Is it legal to have sex with Saba?
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I love Saba so fucking much
https://files.catbox.moe/nbsnmu.png
>>101764074If a girl gives you this face, that is implicit consent that cannot be verbally revoked
Therefore, yes, it is legal
>>101764074now THOSE are boner-inducing hips
>>101761640>he didn't watch the member streamunsurprising
>>101758820 (OP)I wanna see it in action again
Hey guys, does anyone know how to spell Saba-chan in Japanese? What do the JP's call her, in the written form.
>>101764873ใตใใกใใ
Just some Do's and Don't's for this Saturday's Gura Tribute at Dodger Stadium. We want thick, milky strands, so do your best to retain before the big event!
>>101765611Goob night, Saab tight
was Sameanko part of anything on the Debut?
cause if he's not, I would be very excited for some new onesie plushie ala Dino-gura
Is there a Saba Discord server? I want to meet kids who like Saba too.
>>101765819Shachi will see all her friends having fun and it'll make her want to come back. The SNOW White girl quartet shall be complete. I feel it in my claws.
>>101764873ใใฉใซใปใณ
>kiwifarms complaining about it being too loli.
>TVA complaining about the vtuber model being too fluid.
>>101766099she did good then
>>101758820 (OP)>Doob and Nimi ultra-leeching Saba not even 2 days inJesus christ Naplings/Dooberts(?), have some fucking respect and give her some space
>>101765819BELIEVE, OH CREATURE OF LITTLE FAITH
BELIEVE IN THE RETURN WITH ALL YOUR HEART
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>>101766099>KFI saw that warbly-voiced faggot Jersh was getting MATI again, kek. Seriously hope the neurotic retard joins the statistic when he realizes he's on a team with the likes of Griftany Venti and the troon brigade, and a good riddance it'll be.
we need the safety helmet and Saba drooling image
someone tell this brat we didn't use lightouse anymore
>>101758820 (OP)doobydaba is not a real ship
>paper boat will be Saba's Bloop
>>101766302They're actually still used, but most of them are automated now and don't require a caretaker.
>>101766340It's not a ship it's a pappa boat
>>101765989>>101766217But didn't she make it clear she wasn't coming back?
>>101766292This must be redone with the dress front buttons and other small details we have now seen added in
>>101766414At the time yes, that's why I think the most likely thing is that she'll change her mind a few months in this is of course also contingent upon her throat recovering
>>101766475What makes you think that's the "most likely" thing?
>>101766348Difference being peipabote is Gura made and isn't a tumorous mass attached to her character by her artist
>>101766414I think "coming back" doesn't have to mean "I will do this thing forever" and maybe "I can stream twice a week because I'm busy with irl shit" is more than enough when the alternative is to just vanish forever. Unless she wants it that way, which then one has to respect.
>>101766302>come sail away with me, our future's beyond the sea>no matter how we grow just always know: I'm the same same desuyeah she had this planned out since 2023
I think saba isn't mentally stable to be a vtuber. Why'd she come back instead of coasting on all the money she saved for retirement?
>>101766730>the alternative is to just vanish foreverConsidering how long she was in holo and how she still post stuff on twitter it's definitely not this.
Where can I find a girl like this one?
Yeah, it's a shot in the dark I know
so has any artist drawn the seggs in her canon size (35cm) or not yet? It's hard to find shit now
>>101766517... because she made it clear that her current feelings are that she's not coming back? Which means those feelings will have to be changed somehow for her to change her mind. Which I think is likely based on how much fun and success Saba, Dooby and Nimi are seeing.
>>101766839Go onto moderately sized discord server that seems like it would house autistic girls
>>101766804Because she isn't in it for the money
>>101758820 (OP)Someone should do Saba crab fanart with the fat on the land crab cover art.
>>101766839IDK start looking for weeb women first and roll the dice until you find one with a good personality and that's not a homosexual.
>>101767103If that doesn't work then I'll have to do it myself.
>>101766839find a weeb girl, i found one, not as short as Saba, she is 150cm tall
>>101767146Got a link for this one king?
The farms are fucking mindbroken by her.
>>101767213be ready to defend her from those freak
>>101766296>it's bait to want people to leave Saba alone while she's debutingYou leech fans need to lurk way more
>>101767185Goob luck grooming the moom
>>101766804It's not about the money, it's about sending a message
>>101767208https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/132132400
>>101767147but 4chan anonners told me women are in it for the money
>>101767237If convincing her to stream her reaction to playing final fantasy x for the first time because I think she'd like it counts as grooming then sure.
>>101767213They're mindbroken by default. They're terminal drama-addicts that manufacture drama for theselves, and they always have been. They're the remnant of invasion culture that never moved on, and have completely lost their way in the process. It's not about the lulz anymore, it's a constant cycle of mutual deprecation. Their hobby is tearing down other people and themselves in the process. The best thing to do, as it has always been, is to ignore them entirely.
>>101767233>LEAVE SABA ALONEAnon, did you not fucking hear her tell us how excruciatingly lonely she's been for the past two months in yesterday's karaoke? SHE was the one who brought up Dooby and Nimi first, you absolute drooling troglodyte
At least watch streams before accusing years-long chumbuds of being "leech fans" or of not "lurking enough" holy fuck
>>101767232>>101767320My question is, why weren't they driven half as crazy Gura's cover of Loli-kami? This is what breaks them instead.
>>101758820 (OP)she sounds 1000% more happier now then back then,
cover and the shit gang really did a number on her
>>101767353Because loli-kami depicts a molester being rightfully stopped and tormented by the object of his covetousness.
>>101767320Based. The farms have been nauseatingly cancerous since the golden era of CWC ended and the site's userbase these days consists almost entirely of screeching deranged hyenas, neurotic pearl-clutchers and other assorted autists and well-qualified suicide candidates making the same old tired excuses for being seething manchildren.
Literally the only good thing they've done in years is go to war against Keffals and the troon cartel and win, back during the "controversy" over that Harry Potter game.
>>101767125There are many autistic girls, but only one Mooms...
>>101767353>>101767504Because antis have no media literacy sense. Lolikami was about masochistic lolicons getting demeaned because they are into it. They read it as Ui (and Gura) being against lolicons.
>>101758820 (OP)Does this mean saba is free to kiss girls now
I love my schizophrenic fish wife
BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES
>>101767243good artist https://files.catbox.moe/xjre11.jpg
where's the porn /same/ - Sameko Saba & Gawr Gura General (previously /ggg/)??
>>101767787I am NOOTICING
>>101766730I love Saba and Doobs I really do but
>"I can stream twice a week because I'm busy with irl shit"
Could be applied to them as well lol
>>101768175Here's a few
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/132131283
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/132108264
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/132101777
i was raised in a frugal manner, taught to save up everything, don't spend money unless absolutely necessary etc, periodically when i watch her my brain starts thinking about the numbers she pulls and money she's making and it spoils my mood, even if she deserves it all, even if money comes with its own problems, i can't help it, i hate being like this
I hope this time without any management intererfences, I bet she has the toggle to remove the clothes up to fully in bikini but that will only be exclusively for members.
>>101768980Fix yourself then retard. You are in control of your own thoughts.
>>101769003i'm not, that's the point; those are impulsive, irrational thoughts, after i catch myself having them, my rational brain can figure out why monetization is the way it is, why the very few, most popular people get rewarded the most, etc
Rate this photo of Saba and I
this is the resume of the amount of shitty comments and qrts over this tweet
truly infuriating
>>101769370In English please?
>>101769419nah, you just suffer from functional illiteracy
>>101769390Goobnite, Sab dreams
>>101769448I sincerely hope you get the help you need soon anon
>>101769496You must be new around /here/
Is this toggle is only reserved for members. What are your thoughts on this?
A-ah, S-she...
Fjghsjdjfjdh
>>101769614My thoughts have exited my body at approximately 28 miles per hour
>>101767692>BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYESSpeaking of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGaveF2Cxac
>>101769662why is no one freaking out about the inaccuracy of her model?
>>101769662Ma'am, you have the wrong room. Tumblr is the third door on the left. Please take your cry typing there.
>>101769734How did you know I was a woman
>>101769390sleep tight buddy
>>101769701She really picked some choice songs tonight, didn't she?
I'm Still Standing, Old Town Road, Kiss Me, Fly Me to the Moon, Country Roads
I think she might be trying to tell us something
>10 minutes in
>mentions dooby 20 times
Wow
35 centimeters is the same height as a baby by the way a toddler baby, imagine a dad holding a baby, that baby is Saba
>>101769795No self respecting man would type like that
>>101764873>he doesn't even know katakanait's actually ็ตใใใ for you
>>101769849UOHHHHHH PEOPLE WANT TO FUCK A A BABY
Can any kid experts tell me how old she is supposed to be? Asking for a friend (my cock)
>>101769849it's the size of the average mackerel.
>>1017699316 months old literally, 35cm is the same height as a baby
>>101769849It's probably missing a 1
135 sounds far more reasonable for her actual height
>>101769931Unless her height is a typo, a two-three year old would be her height.
Which is pushing it a bit, even for me, an occasional loli enjoyer.
I still think her height might have been a typo, and she's supposed to be 135 cm, not 35 cm.
>>101770012>Unless her height is a typoShe literally said that it is, why do people keep missing the fucking jokes on the ID.
For the blind folk I'll transcribe the small text
>NUMBER 1-35-420-25
>ISSUE DATE 06/06/2025
>EXP 06/20/9999
>CLASS MCRL
>>101770012at 135cm, she should be around 9 years old.
>>101769370this dude is too brown i cant understand what hes trying to say
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>>101769957>>101770044Specifically the joke appears to be that 35 cm is the average length of a Japanese horse mackerel.
>sameko is a japanese name>barbie horse adventures mentioned in the debutHer actual height is obviously supposed to be 135cm but they made a typo when they issued her ID by forgetting the 1.
when it's set for mini instead of wumbo
>>101770187That's an onahole.
Although, the idea of a living action figure that I squeeze against my cock sounds pretty cool too.
looking at the models and their movement and expression from Gura's last karaoke to Saba's first is crazy
like why is the biggest vtuber corpo having them use dogshit rigs that look a decade old
they can do baseball collabs and get into kojima games but they can't get top tier models I guess
>>101770187looking forward to all the art of her getting fucked by gigantic cocks. size difference is such a peak tag
>>101770317that's minigirl actually
i thought she loved kids, but it sounds like she hates them? was she just lying as gura because corpo?
>>101766595And paypahbot is a symbol of her endurance. It's a reminder to herself and to all of us that no matter how much the waves try to drag her down, she will always remain afloat. Bloop could never, and will never, hold even a spark compared to such kino.
>>101770305Investing in good rigging costs a lot of money and there's no guarantee that it will result in any additional revenue
Therefore, investing in good rigging is a waste of money
And wasting money means the stock price goes down
And if the stock price goes down that means we sue you for breaching your fiduciary duty
>>101770343they are competition
she wants to be the hottest one around
My daughter liked Gura alot and I was relieved hearing that she graduated. I hate this community of pedophiles and losers. I can't stop my daughter from joining this fandom but if I see any of you near her, I will break your arms.
>>101770394Thank you anon, very cool.
>>101770350on the contrary, more expressive = more cute = more men want to dono
>>101770343She doesn't mind kids! As long as they're over there and she doesn't have to be anywhere near them
Which I get because kids are disgusting. Can't go a day without seeing some little shit coughing his lungs out without even attempting to cover his mouth
>>101770350>Investing in good rigging is a waste of moneyThey deserve to lose all their talents then, if they are really that clueless.
The quality of a rig is literally fucking everything in this business.
I am 1000% positive, that I am not the only one who will skip on a chuuba for no other reason than a shitty looking model.
I even had trouble sticking with Gura, when they left her with the same shitty model for like six years.
And the quality of Saba's rig, is absolutely a huge part of why I'm following her now, over other choices.
I wonder how does saba feel knowing that the statistics of people watching her are mostly men ranging from 12 to 55.
>>101770394Don't flatter yourself. 3D is gross anyway. You can keep your flesh daughter, unc.
>>101770503>The quality of a rig is literally fucking everything in this business.NTA, I totally agree that rigging is important, but you're fucking retarded if you think It's everything
pic related is one of the most if not the most successful vtuber of all time, and she had shit rigging, you might have heard of her.
>>101770394your daughter has better taste than you do faggot
>>101770538Yeah, I was there on her debut, and I eventually wondered off to watch Vtubers with better looking models.
Cope.
>>101770557so obviously
>You're wrong.and
>you have shit taste.Classic Big Fish W.
>>101770557brown hands typed this
Saba was built for harapan
>>101770394Statistically you should be more afraid of public school teachers than 4chan. My condolences to your daughter for having to put up with you.
>>101770592Gura is the exception, not the rule. Name one other Vtuber in existence that has got half as far as Gura, with an ugly ass model.
>>101770394I hope your daughter met Swim Instructorbud
>>101770616Yeah true, his daughter is gonna turn into some weird bluehair activist living in an english teachers basement at the rate he's going
the fact that we are crabs now is so funny
>>101770394You are a five foot six manlet and I will kill you and feed your daughter your intestines
>>101770712There are no coincidences, only synchronicities.
>>101770617NTA bug Fillian has an ultra old default vrchat model and she is half as popular as Gura
On which number of repeat are you for the karaoke? Just started my 4th and gonna do my 5th in the gym later
>>101770617>that has got half as far as GuraBig ask, but a lot of people in hololive qualify for that.
>>101770762 filian as well. Pikamee was very well received as well, prior to the wizard game.
>>101770762Put the two side by side. Default or not, Fillian's model is nowhere near as ugly. It's a well made model. Her original fanbase was entirely gooners, who absolutely would not have gotten as weird about it, if her model wasn't hot.
>>101770712Turns out Mr crabs was her biggest fan after all.
>>101770799Alright, I'll give you Pikamee.
I didn't even understand how people could put up with that model at the time.
>>101769614Sucks but I get that youtube might be gay about it, remember that akugaki koa recently nerfed her design which showed more skin that Saba's.
>>101770848Alright, maybe the model isn't everything. But it is a HUGE factor.
I didn't watch Zen back then, specifically because of the ugly model.
But, many of these vtubers don't have ugly models anymore.
It's more like an arms race.
I didn't even watch ironmouse, because of how retarded her old model looked.
>>101763397do you have that art where gura is asleep at the train then Dooby wakes her up?
post that fart face, i lost it
apparently the Karaoke was in YouTube's front page
>>101770712It all comes full circle...
>>101763334I'm so happy she went for true loli (physical appearance age 9-11 y.o.)
not just tourists, but also ironics and posers, all BTFOd
>>101770924Itโs monetized too, our girl is going to make so much money holy shit
>>101770879Have you stopped to think that maybe not everyone is as shallow as you?
jk, people are way too horny for that.
But the point stands that a vtubers personality and talents are what RETAIN an audience, not a pretty model.
>>101770103he's indonesian
that's why
also for your question
he was complaining about xitterfags with zero knowledge of vtubers crying about saba's vtuber design just because her design looks like a child
xitterfags crying about porn of fictional characters as always
Saba embracing the fully loli transformation. This confirmed that all bucchi pucci allegations are wrong. Saba is smooth like a pearl.
>>101770931I'm not repulsed by the current model or anything but something closer to 13-15 like Gura was is peak. I hope she plays around with slightly older model variants in the future.
>>101769370>>101770103>>101770963>>101770972Twitter's servers are going to burst into flames when she inevitably releases her Saba daki
Start revving those uohs.
>>101770944Fair enough. I concede the point.
Although I think it is infinitely harder and/or more risky to GET an audience to RETAIN, without a good looking or uniquely charming model.
Gura had a massive buff, by being one of the first holo EN's, which had massive hype behind the whole event, like nothing before in the business.
Attributing it all to personality is just as shallow an analysis.
>>101771017>Gura>13-15the fuck are you talking about? her model had 0 fucking curves
>>101771017to me her body type choice fits squarely into my tastes, she and I are cut from the same lolicon cloth
the precocious 9-11 year old archetype is peak of peaks
>>101771042Getting an audience requires something else entirely and is actually the MOST IMPORTANT thing. Every successful streamer or youtuber, or vtuber will tell you.
it's _________Luck___________ Some people have it, some don't.
>>101771017>>101771062>>101771067Am I the only one who thinks about how Gura describes herself as being about as small IRL?
Like, I'm not getting off to a loli, I'm getting off to a grown woman who happens to have the body of a Loli in real life.
She's a lolibaba to me, both in chuuba and IRL form, and that is infinitely more sexy to me, for some reason.
It's like being given a licence to fuck a legal loli.
>>101771062>0That's a bit of an exaggeration, anon
Also according to this chart:
https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/child-growth/growth-reference-5-19-years/height-for-age-(5-19-years)/hfa-girls-5-19years-per.pdf?sfvrsn=d89b86f2_4
... 141cm would be roughly the 1st percentile (shortest 1%) of girls around 13 years old.
I do wonder how this varies between girls of different races though. In my subjective experience white girls are a bit more petite, so I suspect that average may be getting dragged upwards by sheboons and latrinas.
The point is, I'm not far off.
>>101771111I suppose you could say Saba was lucky to be born as such a beautiful and talented little lady
>>101769857>self respecting
>>101770942Isn't it risky to monetize karaokes? Thought it would be safer to keep those kinds of stream demonetized or maybe that doesn't matter?
>>101770712HUGE improvement over chumbuds desu
>>101771203That and pic realated
Covid keeping everyone trapped in their homes with little to do besides watch a bunch of young people play among us or watch a cute shark girl sing did a lot.
It was a perfect storm of coincidences that let to her start.
>>101771159anon her model looked like this
there are no curves here
this is the body of a child, i don't understand what kind of point you are trying to make, there's barely any difference between her and Saba, she never had the proportions of your headcanon based on offmodel fanart.
>>101771235It is very risky actually, but I guess she doesnโt gaf if she gets striked once.
>>101771289Somewhat true, but bear in mind that the COVID buff had an equal opportunity of being applied across the board. Even then, Gura was apparently the only one who benefited quite as much from it as she did.
>>101771299agree to disagree before i GET you
>>101771235>>101771320Does it surprise you that she would intentionally test boundaries?
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>>101771307Her ET shaped head had a lot of curves on it.
>>101771320I'd rather if she didn't take those unnecessary risks and played on the safe side. Do we even know if it's monetized?
>>101771320she produced transformative content with the videos she played and i agree with her monetizing fair use content on an ideological perspective
>>101771344Leaving the karaoke up on the archive is already enough of a test of boundaries. No need to make it exponentially more risky by monetizing it.
>>101771307Anon. You can quite clearly see that the model has curves. The idea that there's "barely any difference" between her and Saba is ludicrous. Are you fucking blind?
Also, young teenagers are still children.
The fact that someone could manage to be this completely, bafflingly wrong while providing exactly the evidence necessary to refute their own position and then accuse anyone else of having a "headcanon based on offmodel fanart" is laughable, holy shit.
why are hebefags swimming here in lolicon waters?
get lost buddy
>>101771364If you get ads itโs monetized. I got alot of them (i turn off my Adblock for her videos)
>>101771144don't know about you but I like anime girls who look like precocious 9-11 year olds, that it all, no more, no less
>>101771307NTA, she is flat AF, but she's not curveless
>>101771338I don't even necessarily disagree with your actual point, it's just the fact that you got caught by the "desu" filter instead of manually filtering to "tbdesu"
>>101771364>>101771377>>101771390Maybe she just forgot to take it down?
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>>101771404I WILL groom your fish and breed her when her cunny is ripe for the picking inshallah
>>101771419i'm a sicko who purposefully adds tee bee h because i enjoy it turning into desu
>>101771427hanlon's razor mogged this discussion. you're probably right
>>101771307>no curves>cinched waist>hips as wide as shouldersanon...
>>101771427It's safe to assume she left it up on purpose. I just thought she did that while keeping it demonized to keep it as safe as possible.
>>101770712ใใซ~ ใใซ~
>>101771490She sang songs from ABBA too which are super sensitive, they even take down unmonetized edits with the song.
>>101770394Any pics of her? Just so we know who to avoid.
>>101771399>young teenagers are still childrenyoung teenagers are teenagers, not children, hence why they are called teenagers
if they can produce offspring they aren't children anymore
>>101770924Isn't the jewtube front page based on your watch history now?
>>101771531You're thinking of "adolescents" anon, not "teenagers"
A "teenager" is, literally, someone between the ages of thirteen and nineteen. Note the "teen" suffixes to those numbers, hence the term "teenager", indicating they are "teen aged". It's an indicator of chronological age, irrespective of puberty or physical development in their own right. Some late bloomers don't even become fertile until as late as like fourteen or even fifteen for fucks' sake.
Genuine question - are you ESL? I swear to God, I'm actually not trying to be mean, it's just... that is a VERY bizarre statement to make, and seems like the sort of connection someone would only ever not make if they weren't fully fluent in English.
>>101771598The real frontpage is now called TRENDS and she was in the music tab for a while
>>101771625 (me)
To clarify, the point is that yes, you can be a "child" (biologically and reproductively) as well as a "teenager" simultaneously. That seems to be the age range that Gura fell within, or just slightly beyond it.
>>101771654Did she fall in that age range though? Cause I'm pretty sure she goes with child like avatars, because she has a flat, short, child body IRL.
I don't think Gura herself has ever designated an age. And she's in her twenties with a body like her avatar.
I wanted her to sing stayin alive so bad
When do you think is the next karaoke?
>>101771685>because she has a flat, short, child body IRL.Yes, but that's besides the point. There's a large amount of wiggle room within the "flat, short, child body" category - it could mean something like Gura, or it could mean something like Saba.
>I don't think Gura herself has ever designated an ageAccording to her debut she was over 9000
>>101771730>She was over 9000Then why are people saying she's 9-13? There are grown adult women all throughout even just hololive, who are shorter than Gura, with the same proportions.
She's not a Loli.
>>101771790Because we're talking about her actual body proportions, not the meme age answer she gave on her lore sheet as a joke.
But I agree that's on the lower end of adulthood, due to a) her height and b) her petite, but not non-existent curves. Hence, my guess of 13-15, because she's clearly a bit more developed than Saba, who appears closer to like 9-11 fuck it, I'll even be generous and say Gura was 12-15.
>>101771863I refuse to attribute ages to body types, when there are adult women in their 30's, like meemaw, who have the same body type.
>Petite =/= Loli
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>>101771625not ESL just not American. Puberty (menarche in women) starting as late as 14 or 15 is extremely rare and not the norm. 13 is already on the late end.
Teenager and Adolescent are used interchangeably colloquially, with teenager being the predominant word in colloquial discourse by a wide margin.
So yeah, teenagers (13 and up) are almost ALWAYS NOT "CHILDREN".
If saba literally is a fox girl but with a fish tail. Wtf was she thinking. She just looks autistic now.
>>101771917She's a Vaporeon
>>101771906I'm referring to the developmental norms/baselines that roughly correspond to a certain age in years, anons. There will of course be exceptions, but that's not really what I'm talking about.
>>101771917foxfish exist. but shes a mackerel.
>>101771933>The developmental norms/baselines that roughly correspond to a certain age in yearsNorms according to what? Anime? Vtubers?
Petite women are more common than women with giant natural tits. Especially in asian countries.
It sounds like a lot of you just really WANT Gura to be a loli, when for all intents in purposes, the person piloting her is not a loli, and the lore clearly states she is not a loli.
Now with Saba, her ID says she's five years old, so, not much I can say there.
That character is definitely a loli.
>>101771917i love my hybrid oshi
>>101771917>autisticanother word that lost all meaning
>>101771654I'd say is the opposite, she went with a baby faced model with little child head to body ratio, with slightly developed hips, this puts her in the precocious 9-11 year old category, since low head to body ratio is indicative of lower age but developed hips (not a lot but her torso isn't straight like a fridge) are a sign of puberty.
Putting these 2 together she is as young as can be while still being in the puberty range.
>>101771912>menarche starting as late as 14 or 15 is extremely rare and not the normDuh. Hence why I said "some late bloomers"
>almost always not childrenYour own fucking AI output says that puberty can "typically" START as late as 13, and that "menstruation usually begins... between 11 and 14", meaning that 13 and 14 - the two youngest of the "teenage" years. So no, teenagers are NOT "almost always not children" - it is in fact very common (not the MOST common, but still common) for them to STILL BE CHILDREN for a year or two into their teenage years.
>Teenager and adolescent are used interchangeably colloquiallyNo the fuck they aren't? I mean, maybe in Bongland or wherever the fuck you're from, but where I'm from, EVERYBODY understands that "teenager" and "adolescent" are not equivalent or interchangeable, even in colloquial, everyday speech. They don't use the word "teenager" to indicate people who are developmentally adolescents, they use it to refer to people - including FULL adults, developmentally - who are between the ages of 13 and 19.
>>101771906anon this is cope and gaslight meant for antis and tourists. Truth is lolis is absolutely about child-like bodies.
Meemaw is, by purist standards, not a loli. You said it yourself, she looks like a petite adult woman, and the head to height ratio seals the deal, also the slender legs and other subtle yet crucial details which scream "adult".
Meanwhile Saba's body is that of a true loli.
>>101771912Please don't use the word menarche in real life if you're a guy. It's one of the most pedophile flag words I can think of
>>101772074I just think you aren't listening to anything I'm saying, and you are gaslighting yourself.
Anyway, think what you want. And I will think you're retarded, and unable to separate your head cannon from reality.
>>101772006>According to what?... biology? Have you never been around other human beings before, anon?
>Petite women are more common than women with giant natural tits. Especially in asian countries.Holy mother of incoherent double non-sequiturs. Please explain how this magically means that bodily development does not tend towards corresponding to chronological age, when things like Tanner stages are very well-documented and exhaustively studied?
>It sounds like a lot of you just really WANT Gura to be a loliAnd it sounds like you're a fucking moron who can't follow basic conversational threads, considering I've been consistently arguing, this whole thread, that Gura was a YOUNG FUCKING ADULT and NOT A CHILD.
Holy mother of mercy just fuck off back to wherever you came from you peabrained tourist.
>>101772019>Putting these 2 together she is as young as can be while still being in the puberty range.She is trying to hit the sweetspot for both lolifags and hebefags... and it's working ToT...
>>101772053the AI was to save the trouble of reciting what I learned in school.
>typically" START as late as 13yeah and 13 is the tail end of what's considered normal, any later than that's and there may be something wrong going on. Did you miss that part?
reading the rest of your post... Are you American? This post screams muttlander
>>101772091i'm not well versed in pedo lingo like you are, suspiciously. And I wouldn't get any funny looks from using words from the dictionary where I'm from.
Saba gives me to urge to touch girls of this size type again. You may never know, they might not be children, just looking petite.
>>101772221You can touch Saba 24/7 with a Saba tulpa.
>>101772129just explaining the way things are to you, tourist-kun. Feel free to believe my words, or not. Up to you.
>>101772133tourist-kun is coping extremely hard. It always goes like this with their kind.
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>>101772152>ripening fruit, still unripe
Ame Gura Fauna Mumei left.... I don't know if I should continue to play holocure anymore... These are the only characters I play...
>>101772337i want the dev to add saba into holocure just because it would be really fucking funny considering they aren't allowed to interact with each other
>>101772168>PUBERTY typically starts>not MENSTRUATION (which is when a female actually becomes fertile)Menstruation doesn't start immediately when puberty starts, anon. It typically starts 2 to 3 years into the process - again, as your own output says, and as I myself already fucking knew due to also having gone to school, funnily enough.
I am indeed one of the American nightshiftbuds. What gave it away, the fact that I don't use unnecessary vowels every other word? Anyways, I'd suggest asking what is most likely your Bong secondary school for a refund on the tax dollars er, "tax quid?" your joke of a civil service spent on deliberately teaching you wrong, but unfortunately we both know you'd have to convince that soulless robot Queer Stasi to stop facilitating Tony Blair's psychotic Anglo genocide first.
>>101772337Holodev needs more holocure content I got sick of that annoying gambling house
I saw a trailer for a live action One Punch Man movie. I love how fake it is.
I just found out saba is "inspired" by this
>>101772487im outraged that she has a few similarities with this literal who BA student let me get on twitter and start some drama real quick to farm attention
>>101772433>mutt meltykek
sorry, I misspoke. I meant puberty not menarche this whole, since the convo was centered hip development I didn't bother correcting myself. Don't get caught up nitpicking silly little details. Aight mate?
puberty starts typically as late as 13, any later than that is an anomaly. Thus by general rule, teenagers aren't children, physiologically, mentally, emotionally or socially.
When you goom, do you moan Gura or Saba now?
I feel so much injustice for bloop. Everyone recarinated, ebi to crabs, Gura to Saba. No one remembers bloop anymore. What did he did wrong to deserve this.
>>101772541>m-m-mutt m-m-meltyYeah yeah. How's Rotherham these days, Nigel?
Anyway, it's not a nitpick to point out that you aren't an adult as soon as puberty *starts*. There's a meaningful difference here of like 2-3 years on average. Girls become adults, in the reproductive sense, at menarche. Which means that if puberty can typically start around 13 at the latest, then since menstruation typically begins 2-3 years later, we are left to conclude through simple math (and your own AI output, might I remind you) that 14-15 makes sense as an age that girls will typically become fertile women, at the latest.
Thus, the fact that it is normal - even on the upper extremities of normal - means that we cannot categorically generalize "teenager" to be mutually exclusive with "child". It's not just possible, but common to find girls aged 13, 14, or even 15 in exceptional (but still healthy) cases who are still also children.
>>101772152It's fucking genius.
>>101772581I don't moan when I goom, I am the strong yet silent type
>>101772541>BongbudSunni or Shia?
>>101772702vtuber mascots are a retarded concept unless such mascot actually exists (like Ame's dog)
they don't represent anything and have no real purpose other than selling souless plushies
it's better to have only your fanbase personas
What the FUCK was his problem?
>>101772786>Anyway, it's not a nitpick to point out that you aren't an adult as soon as puberty *starts*. moving goalposts *YAWN*. Goodbye
>she's at 900k subs already
i hope she streams tomorrow (today) otherwise 1 million is gonna happen offstream
>>101772848Alright alright I accept your concession already. So how does it feel to be less proficient in the language that bears your people's name than a dirty colonist like myself, Alfred?
>>101772876I hope Saba does something differently from Gura and that is celebrating milestones.
>>101772902>1m milestone celebration>On day 3She's one of a kind I tell you
>>101772848>Same exact position he had from the start>Moving goalpostsIs this one of those expressions that means something different across the pond? Like "tabling"?
>>101772902what could she possibly even do in such a short ammount of time? she literally just debuted and it's not like she can do another Karaoke during her voice rest
>>101772876>>101772929She said no stream today, she will make the poll and decide on fanname today. She hinted at nightrein with dooby and nimi soon.
>>101772989Didn't she say it depended on how her throat felt or am I misremembering
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>>101772961no, he changed MY position actually.
>you aren't an adult as soon as puberty *starts*. I never said or implied this. My position always was that teenagers aren't children, but never said or implied they are adults instead.
The moment he tried pulling that was the moment he invalidated himself and became unworthy of further discussion.
>>101773006That was for if the next stream would be another karaoke again.
How long before she accidentally calls herself Gura or shark?
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