>unfollowed each other

https://x.com/ironmouse?
https://x.com/zentreya

>>101774833 (OP)
>everyone who leaves VShojo implies that Mouse is kind of a cunt
>Zentroona leaves
>unfollows Mouse
How many dots on the board do we need before we make a line?

I love drama when everyone involved is a terrible person, I hope mouse exposes zentranny's secret

didnt zenhera threaten to leave like 50 times before this anyway?

>>101774833 (OP)
Mousefag BTFO'D

Friendship ended with Ironrat

>>101774949
Yes. Which is why this really isn't as shocking or "out of the blue" as most people are making it out to be.
As far as the Twitter unfollows, we can only speculate, and most of that is going to be fueled by individual bias. In other words, mostly useless rrats.

Even Connor unfollowed her

>>101775616
I'm expecting a google dockey

Once upon a time there existed a vtuber that worked for 2 corpos.
Both of those corpos imploded short after she left.
The lesson to learn here is for the next corpo to not make the same mistake.

Zen probably had a crash out with a number of members behind the scenes. Which is why a lot of the members aren't saying much about her leaving while they have plenty to say about Geega and Mata.

>>101775616
Now this can't be true.

nothing to see here

>>101774851
The TTS man unfollows the queen of vtubing.

>>101775925
>>101775792
>her

>>101775988
>muh deflection

>>101774833 (OP)
did leechnya also unfollow her?

>>101775792
>>101775925
>>101775997
>her

>>101775865
connor did unfollow zen, that is what he meant

>>101776261
shut up phasecuck, you have clio

>>101776281
>>101775616
>>101774833 (OP)
Or Zen blocked or removed them as followers.

>>101774833 (OP)
does ironmouse stream more on twitch or youtube?

checked her twitch, zentraya is still on her suggested list so this is some dramabaiting bullshit

>>101777864
Twitch. The only vshojo who regularly streams on Youtube is kson.

>>101777888
retard

that was a super short collab I go away for like 10 mins and its over

>>101778158
kek

>>101774833 (OP)
There's trouble brewing

>>101774833 (OP)
>Michi barely brings up Matara anymore
>Mouse mentioned all the time
It's over.

>>101782108
Matara was always the poison.

>>101778158
We don't sign our posts here.

>she
>her

Good night Moussie

Wasn't it the same with the trio that left a few years ago? Nyan and mouse used to collab on stuff and once nyanners left vshojo I don't think they've really interacted at all?

having glass bones paper skin disease doesn't stop you from being a bitch

>>101782813
yeah, and it can't be the CEO because he went with nyanners to a karaoke in LA after she left the company, so it's clear that mouse is a two faced bitch.

>>101782813
They collab once in a while but Aethel seems to bring most of the enthusiasm when it happens.

>>101782908
they never collabed after nyanners left the company, don't lie.

>>101774851
If you connect the dots you eat a 3day ban

>>101782946
Vermintide with Aethel and Nyanners, subathon 2023

>>101783001
Also Roblox together during 2024 subathon

>>101783001
that was around her departure from vshojo, anything since then? nope

>>101783123
A full year later isn't what I'd call "around"

>>101782108
Aaand there goes your crackpot theory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr5qXfwqYsk

>>101783225
are you retarded?
https://x.com/VShojo/status/1652810083883991040

>>101783271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUjoujJEy4M

I dunno, are you?

>>101783300
this wasn't the collab you mentioned... you're really retarded

>>101783350
>>101783041 (me)
Did your mother drink, or was the stupidity inflicted later?

>>101783392
i wasn't talking to you retard, why do you reply to posts that arent for you? lmao

>>101775616
Iron mouse fuck toy falling in line

Her support for the IDF really did come back to bite her in the ass.

>>101783619
Why is the cripple supporting them?

>>101783972
I dunno, why is the Immune Deficient person supporting the Immune Deficiency Foundation?

>>101774833 (OP)
Anyone with a brain now knows that VShojo is only worthwhile for Ironmouse and all the other talent are getting jack shit these days. That's why others are starting to cut their losses and bail out.

>>101774833 (OP)
Latina unity is dead

>>101774833 (OP)
Blocking probably

You know, after watching the Bbno$/Ironmouse video, and seeing who was and wasn't featured, I think I have an idea of what went down behind the scenes.
Gun and Mouse want Vshojo moving a bigger direction. Bigger collabs with more well-known people, get the name out there.
Zen wanted Vshojo to be a halfway house for her wayward 2views.
After Zen spending he last two years threatening every now and then to leave if she doesn't get it her way, Mouse probably got fed up and told her, okay then quit already!
Zen probably left to start her own company to do exactly what she kept asking Vshojo to do. Geega is most likely left to be part of whatever company Zen is starting, given her business/tech knowledge.
I don't know, it just seems to fit.

>>101774875
>I hope mouse exposes zentranny's secret
and zen exposes mouse, would be funny

>>101774833 (OP)
>puertorican
>woman
>more popular by a huge margin
>can't leave her room
Wow, what a surprise she's a huge cunt behind the scenes.

>>101788579
>her

>Everybody replied with well wishes to Geega
>Nobody replied to Zen
Zen did something

>>101774851
>How many dots on the board do we need before we make a line?

>>101789236
people seem to forget that Henya hasnt talked to her for more than a month now too

>>101774851
>Everyone
>Just Silver

Zentranya definitely has to be at the center of this, but they're doing a great job masking it.

>>101790590
Probably was trying to use what voice she has as one of the few remaining active OG members to try and direct Vshojo into still being that bastion of "talent freedom" and friend group vibes that it used to be known as, but I wouldnt be surprised at this point if Mouse and probably Gunrun are trying to make the company actually profitable somehow. If Mouse managed to lose her "sister" Nyanners the moment she left the company, I'm inclined to put the blame for any kind of relationship maintenance on her over anyone else. She's constantly shown to be a clout chaser before a friend.

>>101776301
isn't zentreya actually a real troon though?

>>101791061
no one knows

>>101774833 (OP)
>Whoreclan
>Vshojo
Please if only someone would spill the beans

>>101783264
Anon. I watch streams. Michi is always polite but holds it in a lot and avoids drama. You can schedule things with her for business but it shows when she stops mentioning you during her 10 hour long streams. Numi and Mouse get mentioned a lot now. Michi brought up becoming more distance with someone (a content creator) who she trusted and how they changed and she is trying to accept it. Matara: "you picked the right one Michi".

>>101791061
Zen used to be played by a couple but the woman left a while ago

If Zen really wanted to prop up 2views they should have quit a long time ago and set up a corpo then. Unlike others in VShojo who wanted to disregard these silly auditions and bring in orbiters, Zen actually wanted them to be legit.

>>101790953
The way things are going, Gunrun will be next for the chopping block soon. They will be replaced by a faceless Japanese salaryman.

>>101791533
It's privately owned company. It doesn't work that way.

>>101792872
NTA but they took funding back then, the money probably running out and the investors are asking their money back, so they have to sell or go public

>>101778158
talk more dirty to me, you filthy bitch

>>101774833 (OP)
God IM must be such a vile whore bts

I buy the “Zen wanted vshoujo to be a vtuber corpo while mouse just wanted to be a normie friendly company as opposed to vtubers”, their recent content shows as much, and Zen always propping up 2views like saving Daiya and buying her IP for her

>>101774833 (OP)
From what I've seen, Zentreya is a really nice dude so if you've gotten on his bad side you must've really fucked up.

>>101791061
Anyone claiming to actually know is bullshitting you.

Anthime was right all along and VShojo is finally becoming vshitshow and didn't needed to bother on doing more than 1 video about it. It really feels good to be alive knowing they taking too much L's on upcoming departures.

>Will there be more special announcements from other members? It be hilarious since that would be confirming they're just jumping from the ship before it crashes harder

I'm watching Mouse's stream and... why is her chat so slow even though she's sporting 10K viewers?

>>101802348
>10K viewers
now remove the bots and embeds

>>101801553
You can literally just google wayback machine it, it's not a well guarded secret

>>101774851
Let me guess.
It's Mouse blocking auditions from proceeding cause she doesn't want what she considers as some randoms invade her chosen clique. Zen wants to push for auditions. Some fallout happened. Mouse pulling out all the cards of victimhood and of course the likes of Connor takes her side.

>>101803706
I can absolutely see the conversation.
M: B-But this is important to me cause this is our personal little friend group :( You all my friends.
Z: But I promised people to give more chances for smaller creators.

10 minutes later
M: Connor :( Zen doesn't want to be friends with me anymore.

>>101803925

The amount of times I have seen this exact convo...

>>101774833 (OP)
who cares. mousey still has the hasan clique to leech off of.

>>101774833 (OP)
Wish they'd both stop their lies and unsub from life.

>>101774851
>People who have been friends with Zen longer like Geega, Ari, Heavenly and Ruben are still interacting with Mouse. During stream today even.
>In the past week Michi and Henya have both talked about Mouse being emotional support and hanging out with them in calls offstream
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2496809267?t=04h08m56s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFc4WQki87k&t=1500s
>Zen leaves VShojo and blocks Mouse on twitter on a day when the latter was going to the doctor because her sinus infection was getting worse.
I'm just saying sometimes a menhera is a menhera..
>>101775925
She literally recorded for a Zen song like last month and sent her birthday messages. If she ghosted Zen it happened in the last few weeks and she has AX stuff and a concert happening along with health stuff going on. An actual friend would be a little more patient.

>>101805848
now do Vei, Nyanners and Silver, tell me all about what a good supportive friend she was

>>101804018
You know that's from a clip of Mouse not directly interacting with Hasan. She did invite him to SOTD with the silly intention of exposing him as a weeb and talking anime. She hasn't gone anywhere near his ass since all the shit came to a boiling point with him in the past several months though. Connor was the one that made the mistake of bringing him on Trash Taste again and boy did that go well.
I mean unless you're gonna go full twitter schizo and cancel her for being a friend of a friend through like Connor, QTCinderella or Valkyrae who were responsible for most of her direct interactions with him.

mouse should expose the fact that zentreya is a man and zentreya should expose mouse's daughter in retaliation

>>101806134
this kills the mousecuck

>>101806134
>vei
she said vei was like a mom for the group, vei now doesn't interact with anyone but her boyfriend and group
>nyanners
Already collabed with her 3 times since leaving
>silver
she even dropped layna who she said multiple times was her sister. No one knows what a menhera wants.

>>101809165
I guess mousekeks are just resorting to making shit up like nijisisters now

>>101774875
what makes you think either of them are bad people

>>101797093
Zentreya supported Powdur's grift a few years back he's dumb as bricks.

why do people keep calling zen a guy

>>101809533
open secret at this point, and now that mouse threw him under the bus it'll stop being a secret at all

>>101809533
If only. They're calling him a tranny when there is no indication whatsoever that he transitioned

>>101809533
a mix of mental illness and projection

didn't you use to get banned for calling zentreya a guy, I guess he lost the vshojo mod protection now

>>101788579
>Zen probably left to start her own company to do exactly what she kept asking Vshojo to do.
based

>>101789269
Zen has done so much for this ungrateful piece of shit...

>>101774851
I started to think she was not as cutesy and innocent as she acts when she poached multiple, active members from nijisanji en while still not hiring any smaller indies to grow them.

I have no horse in this race but Zen is a friend of my oshi, therefore Zen is in the right. It's that simple

>>101774833 (OP)
Grim ending

>>101789263
>sharteta
He can't make a a winger stick to the by-line for shit if his dogshit transfer targets go through

They players aren't shit but the system he's building is going to be tragic

>>101809533
There was some interview around 2018/2019 about Zen and VRChat where two people spoke for Zen in some online call. A girl and a guy who sounded like he was chain smoking since coming out the womb.
The girl said the guy can talk more about Zen than herself.

>>101812731
On the other hand:
Some twitter guy said Zen is indeed a woman and once dated Xigneon aka Aster and provided this as well claiming it fell apart cause Xig was trying to get into the pants of every girl he came across while dating Zen.

>>101812808
https://x.com/heero17/status/1934669719086485873

Have the audio as well.

>>101812912
Apologies if this turns into an Aster thread, not my intent. Just that Aster was trying to pick up every woman while being trying fuck Zen as while in some weird relationship together that was more one sided from Zen.

>>101812943
Plot Twist:
Aster is about to get fired but VShoujo tries to hire him like Kuro. Zen and others get the fuck out cause of past stuff.

>>101812731
Is he keeping the woman trapped in his basement?

>>101812983
I have my criticisms of VShojo, but even I don't think they're that braindead

>>101809193
i mean you don't watch them and still keep making up shit and denying when someone who watches them try to explain. Fuck you then

>>101809533
every time the girls take about girly stuff like make up, lingerie or period, zen gets really really quiet and says nothing.

>>101810099
hello sister

>>101774875
>secret
anyone who is a fan of zen and doesn't know has to be comically in denial

>>101774833 (OP)
so who's in the wrong?

>>101791061
i think zen is more of a drag queen kind of deal

>>101810099
zen poached matara and matara poached the other two desu

Damn you guys live like this?

>>101809533
Including all the other various small pieces here and there which may or may not point to it already mentioned, the real smoking gun is his TTS voice broke in a collab stream and you can hear a male voice speaking the words which on Zen's stream is his TTS subtitles.
>>101256413

It's hilarious to me how instantly IMs fans turned on zen. Just a reminder for when you wonder where all the antis and doxxfags reside: it's with the cancerrat that leeches off of normie fleshies.

>>101813952
i respect the zen fans who don't give a shit.
i'm desperate to find a zen fan who insists she's not a man. i think it would be very funny.

>>101814004
that's always been the case. she attracts a fanbase of underage shitters that don't understand the culture, they just defend their grift queen without question or morality
zen did nothing to deserve this cancer attacking them

>>101814004
There's something very hilarious about a person like you trying to condemn antis and doxxfags.

I am banned in zentroona's channel.

Here is what actually happened:
>Zentroon is revealed to be a man to the members who didn't know it already (Henya, Michi, etc..) because of some internal restructuring
>They are shocked and upset, they shared their private stuff with a predator, call him his real pronoun and stop interacting (Henya is a good example)
>He is flabbergasted, crying and shitting himself, demands to be called a woman
>They decline
>Troon throws a fit, threatens to leave
>Mouse says fuck you, hence the picrel (notice how she got congratulated by a lot of people, but not the troon)
>He gets so pissed he leaves and blocks her
Simple, really.

>>101814384
>Henya is a good example
sure, known pedophile not just lolicon who collabs with open trannies all the time... suuuure

>>101814384
i envy the little soap opera some of you guys have in your head.
that your brain goes to this scenario instead of just "money" says to me you haven't been broken by the real world yet.
but it was probably over money or something equally as mundane, sorry.

>>101814594
You leave an agency for money, you don't block people on Twitter and unfollow them on Twitch for money

>>101813952
That wouldve worked if the voice we heard wasnt the very well known voice of HeavenlyFather who was in the collab with Zen

>>101814634
hahahahaha oh boy

>>101809514
Never attribute to malice what can be explained with incompetence

>>101814653
now just watch that russian retard call you a faggot for 8 hours straight lmao

>>101814653
Is that the official cope?

>>101814653
That would've worked but you can't hear the voice on Zen's stream nor does Zen's TTS pick up any other voice (including the guy right next to him screaming the entire time) except his own.

>>101814653
1) That's not Heavenly's voice
2) TTS picked it up Heavenly who wasn't there but didn't pick up the gay dude screaming like a little girl?
3) Zen's model is tracking him talking and it's clearly visible

>>101814384
i like little dumb speculations like this, so here's mine
>Mouse was drugged out and said something that Zen didn't like
>Zen is a little upset
>asks for an apology
>Mouse is Latina about it and says that you cant blame her for what she says because she was on fucking drugs
>they both stand their ground
>a small thing gets turned into a big resentment over time
the end

>>101814653
The game uses proximity based audio when in a match, and Heavenly was in another floor entirely. That combined with the fact that Zen was having mic issues with the game and fucked around with the input settings, and that the TTS at the time exactly matches what the voice is saying makes it very likely that it was her real voice.

Not that it really matters much, mind you. I can still watch and fap to her.

>>101814120
She attracts worse. She brings in white knights with the frail bubble girl thing. And nothing makes a person capable of being shitty quite like self righteousness.

I can't even remember the last time ironmouse even did a collab stream with her vshojo mates

>>101774851
No Zentreya is obviously the toxic cunt here mouse is an angel the queen of vtubing

>>101817000
Mario Kart with Henya last week

>>101817121
oh right. henya exists.

>>101814989
>>101816167
Yall got a link of the mic fucking up?

>>101813642
Anon that’s fucking retarded logic, a female friend of mine doesn’t talk about that stuff aswell and is awkward about it too

>>101774851
>>101774833 (OP)
Ironmouse is the Ellen Degeneras of Vtubing

Zen and their fanbase were never really one of us, the rest of the vsj fan base are glad that they left

>>101817357
Fuck off, tourist

>>101817357
>us

>>101817550
>>101817643
Stay seething zen fans, you're out now.

>>101817211
you are coping too much. Zen doesn't even talk about perfume or makeup she uses. She is 100% a man even the girls sometimes can her "he".

>>101810307
Let me guess, Heavenly

>>101817869
>she
why must you continue this farce?

>>101817203

>>101814989
>>101816167
They don't because they made it up. This never happened and have zero proof.

>>101775702
is that Sayu reference?

>>101775959
>Troon seething at Saba
Many such cases

>>101817203

First one I found
>>101256413

>>101817182
>Henya picked the grifter's side
I'm surprised

>>101809533
a spade is a spade

>>101818615
got nuked. Resend pls.
or tell me what game they were playing and when

>>101814439
Henya is only a lolicon

>>101818927
>got nuked
It works on my machine. reload cyberfile

>>101817931
Way off the mark

>>101817869
holodrones...
zen's gimmick is supposed to be that its two people controlling one vtuber

>>101819604
Not from anything she's has mentioned recently.

>>101819604
That was the gimmick before joining vshojo and actually getting popular. Can't cope with this since that's just
>"Oh it's clearly actually a girl because!"

>>101819727
>>101819781
>she
you are talking to the man and watching the woman on the screen, the he is correct unless you really want to convince the other person to wiggle the retarded model in the off-chance they even see the chat

>>101820260
Zen is a she, anon, it's not that complicated

>>101817203
Literally look up this thread on warosu and you can watch the clips posted by the deleted comments.
>>101819604
He has broken up with that chick long ago, keep up

>>101820425
zen is a male

So youre saying Zen has a cock? Thats hot. I hope its small and cute and it gets hard when he flashes his panties at chat

>>101821822
>zen is a male
Zentreya is female. The identity of the person behind Zen is irrelevant; this is like going into a Korone thread and sperging out about people calling her a dog

>>101818615
>>101820430
does anyone have heavenlyfathers pov? or even if he was even in that collab at all
that could easily dispute the speculation.
because matching the "boyfriends" voice from the voice reveal stream, and the content warning slipup with the audio being heard on eviltoasters stream, and the the captions coming from zens pov at the same time. the voice even does the pause to wait for the tts to go through, before saying the next phrase.

also did some extra research. seems that a lot of the clips were getting nuked from youtube by the same service that vshojo used to take down the froot vs ant stuff. >according to the person that was reuploading and being struck

>>101822343
No one is disputing the character. they are disputing the pilot.

nice semi

>>101822518
Then go back to your doxx forum.
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").

>>101822343
Kek you are pretty funny.

>>101817262
That sounds about right.

>>101818625
I think she just doesn't know any better

>>101822596
>Seafags always quote the rules when they're losing an argument
We accept your concession.

>>101822343
we're reaching levels of cope that shouldn't even be possible TOPKEK

>>101822343
Anon, people do sperg out when you mention she's a dog. I'll grant that they usually start gibbering about sex with dogs, but that really says more about Zen than anything.

>>101774875
>>101788705
>>101813714
Love how this headcanon is so widely accepted as truth even though there's unironically zero proof

>>101774833 (OP)
why?

>>101838998
They hate each other...

>>101774851
>everyone who leaves VShojo implies that Mouse is kind of a cunt
It was literally just Silver

>>101837013
zentreya is a black man who used to share the model with his gf before they brokeup

>>101809436
because we have eyes and ears, anon. We've got a fake dying grifter cunt cabal leader, and a man using tts and fat anime tits to swindle money and cum from other unsuspecting men. They are equally shit.

>>101822343
Just because a jeetAI says so does not mean it is factually true.

>>101819079
no. I saw her pika-era tweets where she wished to turn into a tree to be able to creep on children without others noticing

>>101827180
kill yourself doxxnigger

>>101841847
anything real or just that stuff you've made up?

>>101844309
We like Proctor here femanon.

>>101844825
We absolutely do not, Proctor. Kill yourself

>>101845288
Yes we do. You are very misinformed.