Thread 101989316

Everyone who said she quit Hololive because she hated being an idol is on suicide watch right now

>>101989316 (OP)
I like her but Jesus the model is shit.

She should wear something skimpier.

>>101989316 (OP)
She shut that rrat down during her grad announcement

The real reason is that she is lazy and wants to spend more time on gaming instead of flying to Japan and back multiple times

>>101989316 (OP)
I'd rather listen to Noel for 24 hours than listen to 1 minute of of this bitch singing.

>muh idol hate
>muh laziness
these people cannot cope with the fact that cover has become a black void where good ideas go to die

>>101989473
this

also doesnt want to associate with all the faggot shit cover will eventually submit too

>>101989511
noel is so fucking funny, i laugh everytime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcssoY84nOI

>>101989316 (OP)
I expected something a bit more like Doki's concerts but this reminds me a lot more of typical stage shows.
Dunno if I like it or not, but I guess that's what they're used to now.
I wanna say something about the yuribaiting but with my oshi I can't really say anything.

Seriously wish Ashton and Hyuni participated a bit more, though. They basically treated themselves like just openers or sideshows when they should've been taking advantage of the eyes and their actual singing voices. Ashton's fantastic.

>>101989316 (OP)
>Bloomers
Lame.

>>101989511
Noel owns it. It's fucking awesome.
>>101989584
Thank you.

Nimi hates holofags

>>101989316 (OP)
She quit because she's a lazy greedy whore

>>101989527
>also doesnt want to associate with all the faggot shit
Lmao

>>101989316 (OP)
She's so pretty

>>101989316 (OP)
Uncanny AF

>>101989316 (OP)
she quit Hololive because she had no friends left in that company and she wanted to play wii shovelware and I am not joking

>>101989316 (OP)
>model is a massive downgrade from Fauna
>5fps concert
>still sucks ass at singing and dancing
Yep, a great idol

>>101989316 (OP)
Jesus fuck she needs a corpo or better industry contacts, that looks like shit.

>>101989316 (OP)
Fauna didn't mind being an idol but she didn't want to keep flying to Japan which is something Cover has been steadily increasing on the EN branch. Cover than forced that damage control with several talents stating that everyone loves traveling to Japan. No one believed that so only a few months later Cover admitted they were looking into VRChat to make it easier for foreign talents to make recordings for 3D lives/concerts.

>>101989432
>She should wear something skimpier.
Hololive can force sexualized designs on talents but indie vtubers make their own decision. Saba proves they can actually go further with the coombait after they leave Hololive though I think it does add to the mental stress.

>>101990155
Ashton had as many if not more songs than Nimi/Dooby at this point, she is on stage again right now.

>>101990979
Ashton is the only one there who is actually a decent performer and the only one there that is actually a good singer.

>>101990851
i get that you're being a seething anti, but man the improvement she had over singing and dancing is so big you have to be very delusional.

>>101991043
She's actually fantastic.
She uses the stage well and even uses props. The real star of the show.

>>101989316 (OP)
Those things are huge

>>101989316 (OP)
>Everyone who said she quit Hololive because she hated being an idol
She quit cuz she didn't like having to leave to do Idolshit if it meant leaving her home state

>>101990872
Clearly you didn't watch it because it had soul.

>>101991043
She is good, but everyone has been killing it there, very cool concert.

>>101991191
>Everyone
I take it you must be deaf if you can tolerate Dooby and Nimi singing. They are just as awful as they were in Hololive.

>>101991275
Do you even watch the concert? Post a screenshot of what's going on right now.

>>101991191
Yeah it's definitely fun, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that the most entertaining parts by far all involved Ashton.
This woman needs more concerts.

>>101991306
You sound like all the other delusional Saplings that were always in denial of her terrible singing for years. Come off it man.

>>101991383
Screenshot?

>>101991331
I spoke WAY too soon.
Holy shit the last doob song.
Definitely glad I bought a ticket to support my oshi's friends.

>>101991456
This concert turned out to be giga-kino. holy shit.

>>101989316 (OP)
I still think that her voice doesn't match the avatar.

gaming idol tapir

>>101991104
>believing this is an improvement all around
i would say the same to you as well

>>101991677
it was way fucking better than her performances in holofest because the mixing was objectively superior. this isn't even debatable. the entire concert was GOAT.

>>101991839
nta but even I can say that you're try harding too much, it was fine

Did she sing We Like to Party?
I feel that is her signature song now.

YAGOO?!
WHAT ARE WEGOING TO DO?
YAGOOOOOOO!!

>>101990807
>she had no friends left in that company
But she was the first to leave HoloEN except for yearling Sana.

>>101989316 (OP)
She didn't hate being an idol - she said as much. She hated the works required to be a good idol, though

>>101991601
Definitely not medium.

VOD?

>>101989316 (OP)
This looks like shit.
The model is okay, but it's kind of low poly and the shading is bad.
The worst part by far is that the lighting and shading of the environment is dogshit.
Oshispark is so fucking awful. It's embarrassing when you compare this to even a holoID member's 3D birthday live.
Even Kaela's original 3D model with the spaghetti arms had better rendering and reflections and effects than this. I really hope Saba never does anything with them.

>>101989473
>Does her own indie idol concert
>Lazy
What is this mental illness called

>>101989521
Fauna is not an idol. There are no western idol companies. You can only be an idol through a japanese agency or a foreign underground idol in Japan.

>>101992699
*Nimi is not an idol.
Obviously, Fauna was one of debateable quality.

>>101990851
>5fps concert
They fixed that in like three minutes retard

>>101989316 (OP)
SHOW ME THE FUCKING BLOOMERS WOMAN

>>101991275
>t. more tonedeaf than Ame or Fauna ever were

>>101989316 (OP)
She really wishes she had big tits IRL, doesn't she? Those things looked awful compared to Dooby and Mint, why not minimize physics clipping problems?

>>101992598
You tried, unfortunately we have eyes and ears

>>101992699
>>101992742
Obsessed yellow hands typed this
>>101992795
>physics
You SURE you want to go there? Ashton's flag had actual physics. Anyone got a screencap of the gravity-defying Laplus hair?

>>101989316 (OP)
Anyone have footage of this that's not a compressed 720p WEBM with no sound?

>>101992991
>Anyone have footage of this that's not a compressed 720p WEBM with no sound?
they said they'll upload a better VOD without scuff later in the week so nothing right now, have this saba cameo meanwhile
https://streamable.com/9mtixo

>>101993048
Thanks!

>>101992699
The west invented idols.

>>101991043
Hyuni's the best singer there but Nimi and Dooby stepped up too. It's the best singing I've heard from them

But Ashton is a real performer yeah

rolling on all the haters

>>101989316 (OP)
She still can't sing worth a shit, having a sex model and flapping around in a girly way doesn't change that

>>101989316 (OP)
So why did she leave then? She hates Japan or she's just greedy?
This is not the win you think it is.

>>101989316 (OP)
she just hated having standards

>>101993652
She hated Promise "friends" who backstabbed her at the first chance they got. She literally had better time with Hyuni and Ashton (even though they barely got acquainted) in a month than she did with hololive for years

>Concert was amazing
>Comfyscrolling before bed
>Curious what 4gottenchan is saying
>It's still just brown people seething
Too funny

>>101989316 (OP)
People have been screaming that the reason holo girls are bailing out on hololive is because of how retarded hololive is with all the red tape and rules and the classic old school japanese corporate bureaucracy autism of covercorp. Too many anal old fart japanese in charge of things over there. Yagoo was different at the start he was young and had his ear to the ground he was able to follow and adapt to new trends. But in the end he too became another by the book never take a risk old fart japanese man that sits his ass down in a boardroom all day.

>>101989316 (OP)
The way she moves feel...fat

>>101992699
Idol is literally an english word.
Pop idols for example is a term that goes all the way back to the 50s with singers like Elvis Presley.

>>101993871
He's the star of the show

>>101994358
Even better!

All these rrats are absolutely retarded. She just wanted more money. People often quit their jobs when they're denied a raise and think they can make more money elsewhere. It's a fairly normal thing to do.

>>101994446
So when do we get to see her micro bikini model?

>>101994446
>All these rrats are absolutely retarded
>posts an even more retarded rrat
She still hasn't turned on SCs and she only did that one limited merch at her debut.

>>101993048
Wow, that actually looks really good, and Dooby somehow sounds a lot better than she usually does here

>>101994540
>muh no sc
Membergifts are on. She also just literally did this very low-budget concert. How much was a ticket, $10?

>>101994663
>How much was a ticket, $10?
What are you trying to argue? That it was cheap and she made no money? Are you braindead?

>>101989316 (OP)
TAPIR SEX

>>101990551
She probably the most basic pick me bitch irl. Probably has the same mindset as that twisty bitch from Ninisanji

>>101994927
Nope, I'm pretty sure he's trying to imply she's a greedy bitch for daring to do a paid concert

Why is the framerate so low in all the clips I'm seeing

>>101994358
When doing the 3d capture they make her wear a bit thing that doesn’t let her lower her arms so that she doesn’t clip into her skirt at all with her hands, it makes her movements a little awkward.

>>101995145
The stream sucked ass. They're gonna fix the vod

>>101994358
God I wish...

>>101995082
But a "very low-budget concert" with a $10 ticket wouldn't make her any money at all. I fail to see his point.

>>101995244
For like the first five minutes lol

>>101989399
I agree. This model is a legit downgrade in every sense of the word.

>>101994927
Holy shit are you retarded. You said she only did that one "limited" merch run to make money when she just did a concert on a low budget with hefty prices. Talk about braindead you economically illiterate ATM

>>101995923
...Anon, no she didn't
Oshispark ran the whole "concert" part. All the girls had to do was show up and actually do it.

>>101995923
>hefty prices
You said $10, economically illiterate retard.

>>101989473
>She wants to spend more time doing her job than travelling
>This means she is lazy
Least retarded company worshipper

>>101989316 (OP)
Can niggas stop doing the fucking dance infront of giant pixel screens already? This shit breaks bitrates so hard it makes live viewing a pain.

>>101993487
This mouse is literally begging for mating press all night.

>>101989473
>>101995878
>>101989399
>>101995923
The unemployed browns have spoken.
>>101994630
Agreed, I was genuinely prepared for her and Nimi to be borderline tonedeaf as usual. Instead their singing was pretty fucking gorgeous.
Everyone's praising Ashton too, and she was amazing and definitely exceeded my expectations for a Twitch Literally Who, but looking at it objectively you can't deny that Nimi had comparable stage presence and IMO did a much better job during the MC segments specifically.

>Becomes an indie
>Stops flapping her hands around and call that a "choreography"
Hololive is the antithesis of idol culture

>>101991984
Dooby Haruhi is the goat, sorry for your shit taste.

You guys being surprised at Dooby doing great are clearly never watching Ame. She sucks at karaoke, but on stage with proper preparations she's a different kind of beast.

>>101996434
>never watching Ame
I've seen a few of her HoloFes performances. But I was admittedly a bit anxious and unsure about how the prep time from a small operation like oshiSPARK would compare to what they'd get behind the scenes with Cover. Tonight's show thankfully put those doubts to rest (hopefully next time they can iron out the last of the technical issues)

>>101996491
Oshispark usually goes above and beyond.
Mostly because they're major vtuber fans. You'll often see them accidentally type in random vtubers' chats because they forget to switch the account.
For example, last time, they got these gigantic inflatable wisps and dragoons and I think they brought them to the AX venue too. Some people were posting seeing them staring ominously out of second story rooms. Completely unnecessary.

>>101996676
I see our girls are in good hands... the future's looking bright anon

watching the holodrones seeth and mald warms my heart

>>101993871
It'll never stop being funny what shit taste these Dravidians have. Probably because feces is so ubiquitous in New Delhi.

>>101989316 (OP)
Is this the best your fake "idol" can do? Looks like shit.
Couldn't be bothered to make it to proper dance and singing lessons, couldn't be arsed to coordinate with fellow idols and groups members, too lazy to put in the work needed to be a star.
Now she'll never get a proper concert or fill out a stadium, but she has to placate her retarded fans with this dollar-store downgrade so they can cope.
She had the chance others would kill for, but was just not good enough.
She'll probably go to PhaseCon too, because that
will be the closest she can get for a stage.

>>101996760
Why would I seethe?
>Kiara's concert was great
>Nimi & Dooby's concert was great
I'm eating like a king over here

Absolutely kino concert

>>101996937
>>101996762

>>101989316 (OP)
No, she quit hololive because she could never be an idol since she was born tone deaf.

>>101997321
>"Nimi is tone deaf!"
>t. tone deaf

>>101997375
That spooky hospital karaoke she did was 100% off-key but at least she's cute even if she's tone deaf.

>>101989316 (OP)
Holy mother of downgrade.

>>101997448
I don't disagree but
>comparing karaoke to a concert

>>101997489
Ok yeah

>>101989473
She quit because she had a woman moment over not a phase not being released. I will die on this hill.

>>101993580
neither can 95% of your oshi company sit down retard

>>101997512
>Sign up to corpo to help you do shit
>Corpo refuses to help you do shit
>Quits
>"Woman moment saar"
Rangeban jeets and SEA

>>101996058
holodrones will continue to ignore this

The model was not downgraded, she just went with something more goofy because she was tired of stuff like >>101997456

>>101997618
Don't use my posts to tribalfag
I don't even know how on earth "holodrones" would be involved in my post about oshispark.

>>101997629
you can never stop artists, they will continue to draw your shit off model with any fetish in the world

>>101996937
shut up nerd lol

How are Indians still this mad at her?

>>101997629
wtf are you talking about, Nimi has bigger boobs than Fauna. Did you even see Nimi's new dress?

>>101989316 (OP)
did she really take 2 weeks off to pretend she was rehearsing for this shit?

>>101989316 (OP)
man her model is so fucking ugly

>>101989473
tpbp

>>101989316 (OP)
Nobody ever said that's why she quit, she hated what they entailed. She fucking hated Japan and going there and having to do idol shit as a core part of her career. Some sponsor paying you to co-headline their dumb thing is way different than being the worst performer at some massive event where nobody is there for you. On the indie scene the standards got lowered so low that she could reach them, that makes a huge difference.

>>101997776
Because they are completely delusional and schizophrenic, as the last several posts prove decisively

>>101990945
We know all the talents people like have no problem going to Japan considering half of them live there and another quarter traveled there regularly before they even had this job. The talents who hated going are one or two remaining that everyone hates and all the ones who quit but that's part of why nobody misses them.

>>101998130
What else do the vouces tell you?

>>101998155
Please tell me more about how Shiori is the best HoloEN and the entire company should build itself around her.

>>101998130
Not everyone wants to move to glorious nippon land its not a perfect country don't get me wrong. I love japan i've visited many times and lived in the country for a few years. My point is it's not for everybody and the foreigner's that move to japan have to love that country and culture to do so. It's a massive life commitment not just a easy house move

>>101998233
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Nobody's asking fans to move to Japan.

>>101998195
>it thinks I'm a novelite
holy kek you are fucking stupid

>>101998303
I'm not sure why admitting you're a Starsfucker is something you take pride in.

anyone got a gofile or a torrent archive?

>>101998287
>We know all the talents people like have no problem going to Japan considering half of them live there and another quarter traveled there regularly before they even had this job. The talents who hated going are one or two remaining that everyone hates and all the ones who quit but that's part of why nobody misses them.
it has everything to do with your statements above your a bit on the slow side aren't ya ? stay in school kids

>>101998339
Are you having a fucking stroke anon?

>>101989473
>>101998130
Part of the reason she had her puddle episodes is because Cover shot down the idea of working with 3D recording studios in North America even though they have a US office, and insisted that all concert recordings had to be done in their own studio.

>>101998411
So wait, you're confused why people who got a Japanese job are different from the general population? Is this your first time learning that not everyone is like you?

>>101998515
I really don't see why Zuckerberg's Metaverse dream that Fauna was apparently advocating for is supposed to sound appealing. At that point just replace her with computer animated dancing or a backup dancer. I don't need a live show where everyone's collaborating together except one person is actually dancing alone in the US.

>>101998515
>>101998130
>>101990945
It's not even flying to Japan is the issue
it's going to Japan to record 3d only for Cover to go "Sorry we are prioritizing group activities and these other people want it so get fucked. No they wont reschedule." and also "Welcome to Japan, we neglected to mention in the email but the equipment is broken, please wait 1 month until we repair it" or "The 3d models and assets have not been delivered, lease wait for them to be completed, no we couldnt have told you this first" and then they still dont do it after months
corpo worshipping faggots will blame the talents forever but unless they all got together to lie across branches this is what's happening

Reminder that 80% of the posts in this thread are from brownfeet. Just let her go bro this isn't healthy.

>>101989473
She can't bother to go to Japan because of bad lifestyle choices (meme diet + child replacements). Simple as.

>>101998130
>>101998195
>>101998339
Sanest, least insufferable unicorn.

>>101989316 (OP)
I remember people saying she didn't want to fly to japan to do the idol stuff. Not that she didn't want to be an idol. Subtle difference.

>>101998809
Holodrones aren't ready for this trvke.

>>101998809
Which is a weirdly cynical perspective to have and a good sign you absolutely should quit. While the other people in your gen are all bonding and getting to do things together they normally never can in their regular lives, you're sitting there being angry that you can't get in and get out as fast as possible. Even though you clearly can get away with that since we know multiple members who don't show up for the big events that are supposedly unskippable.

>>101998130
Everyone that moves to japan will tell you what a pain in the ass it is. They don't like foreigners, it's difficult sometimes impossible for you to get credit, they don't want to give you a driver's license.
I don't have a problem with that if a foreigner comes to your country that foreigner should have to prove they actually want to be there, but not everyone wants to go through all that.

>>101998921
You think that when a talent who has obligations back home such as pets and family members (all the girls that quit do) should feel grateful when the company figuratively slaps them in the face like this when they put that all that on hold to come get some of this shit done?

>>101999011
So it's the company's fault that they wanted it to be a hobby instead of a job? It let them leave, do you think it also needed to kick them on the way out? What else could it have done to satisfy you?

>>101992669
it would help if you read the rest of the sentence, and didn't just stop at "lazy".

>>101989316 (OP)
And she's still shit at it, so I guess Cover imposed standards on her that she couldn't live up to, so those people are right.

>>101996193
the travels were part of the job, retard. she left so she could do more of the stuff she likes, and less of the stuff that's work. you might call that lazy.

>>101989521
what great ideas did Fauna have?

>>101999091
I like how you consistently ignore Cover's plain incompetence
>they wanted it to be a hobby instead of a job
People leave jobs all the time because of shitty working conditions

>>101995214
Thank you anon jesus christ I finally know why they do that A-pose all the time.

>>101999965
>shitty working conditions
The amount of water being carried for surrogate babysitters is fucking hilarious

>>101998409
Check the dooby thread

>>101999907
>Put work before your family and pets
>Your workplace cant even be bothered to do their side of the work
>The problem is the employee should give up MORE
you are pathetic, I'd feel really sorry for you if I thought you had friends, a family, pets or a job

>>101993736
Take your meds.

>>101991601
I love her but holy fucking shit, what a lameass idol outfit design. I hate it so much.

>>102000525
Look at the size of the bazoompas, though.

>>101992871
He's right tho. Her normal 3D and Idol 3D is so ahh

>>101996328
You're as pathetic as ksonfags.

>>102000228
oh, I don't actually mind that she did, I just meant that that guy's complaint wasn't that nonsensical.

>>101989316 (OP)
me knocking off objects off my desk on accident

>>101990180
You shut your whore mouth, bloomers are erotic as fuck.

>>101993736
Fauna is the one that backstabbed the rest of Promise. That's why Kronii stopped interacting with her. Fauna wormtongued Gura and Mumei into graduating together with her and Kronii was left alone in SNOT. That's why Kronii hates her. That's why Kronii wrote that tweet on her RM account about being betrayed by a close friend around the time that Fauna and Gura and Mumei decided to quit.

>>101994429
Animation is also an English word, but if you describe Family Guy as an "anime" here in the west, you will be laughed at.
Taylor Swift is said to be an idol. She isn't. Only in the American sense. She's a whore that's had over 11 documented boyfriends and she doesn't give a shit about her fans. She is no way in any sense what the Japanese would consider an idol, which is what everyone here on this board is referring to when they say that word.
But nice try, tourist.

>>102001098
>He's right tho
Holy denialism

>>101999907
So she could do more of the work she likes, you mean.
Because lazy people like working.

>>102007008
NTA, but simply watch a single hololive concert or even just a 3D anniversary live or birthday live by any talent and you would immediately be able to see the difference in quality. There's no camera work. There's no shading or lighting. There's no moving around the stage. The difference is night and day. Oshispark does not have the equipment, staff, ability, or money to make a good show. It's super weird that there are so many people here trying to gaslight everyone into thinking this was good. Even the stuff that Kanauru made was better, and I never thought I would say that.

>>101989316 (OP)
>>101996676
It's just sad.

>>101989316 (OP)
She cant sing for shit

>>102007001
>"anime"
Because anime isn't an english word.
Generally you'd use the words "cartoon" or even the slang "toon" before even considering anime to describe an animation, if it ever crosses your mind. Hell, we even have shortened words for variations, like animatic.
Sorry, ken-sama. Your "idols" are just a foreign niche using a corrupted loan word.

>>102007232
both are different in scale
both are fine and enjoyable

>>101997807
Can you retards think of anything other than boobs and skin? Holy shit.

>>102007183
>There's no camera work.
Wrong
>There's no shading or lighting.
True
>There's no moving around the stage.
Wrong
>The difference is night and day
True
>It's super weird that there are so many people here trying to gaslight everyone into thinking this was good
The concert was great because of the setlist, the energy, and their singing. It's clear that you didn't watch the concert and your only exposure to it are the retarded clips from low fps sections which oshispark said is going to fix with an update.

>>101996676
soul

>>102007232
slop

>>102007183
>t. didn't watch, pretending to know what the fuck he's talking about
lol
Beyond what other anons have mentioned, you won't get a setlist this kino, flag physics or a massive train showing up onstage at Holofes. Pretending it wasn't a good show is the cope of a century.

>>102006869
holy retard

>>101996193
she doesn't really want to do more work her output as Nimi is not bigger than Fauna, perhaps her income is and that's what it boils down to.

>>101999965
every company/agency can be presented as incompetent because they had some fuckups at some point it's pointless sophistry Fauna was by fare not the most creative or active holo EN member, she hardly organized shit.

>>101998834
or a new bf asking for more of her time, she obviously can't take him all the way to Japan.

>>102008795
retard
>>102008924
retard

>>102008892
>every company/agency can be presented as incompetent
Yeah, I said that people leave companies all the time

>>102007232
You're being a disingenuous fuck.
Also in your pic is 15k people watching them play charades or some kusoge instead of an actual performance lmao

>>102007232
Wow you mean I get to enjoy even more lives now? Holy based fuck yeah.

>>102008892
>some fuckups
>some

>>102011098
EN is still very small and can't be held to the same standard as events likely to make millions

>>102011681
>small indie company

Holocucks saying hololive concerts are better when I literally fell asleep during holofes 6
The only good hololive concerts were Watame's and Suisei's

>>101989316 (OP)
I thought she quit hololive because she was expected to be a good idol.

>>101993871
nimi's outfits look hella great, so idk what the fuck the haters are on about

>>102014348
i think the problem is due there being no unifying theme to their models/outfits.
they're all over the place.

talent only goes so far, presentation is key.
the girls need to work on this more if they want to be taken more serious.
i'd give my input, knowing the formulas that work, but i'm literally a crab in a bucket.

>>101989316 (OP)
I thought the part she hated about being an idol was the regular molestation with baby making intent from management.

Holocucks always be like
>Noooooooooo, you can't just wanna win more money and leave Hololive out of it
lmao

>seething 2views are upset at other women succeeding.
lol, sorry whore. maybe you should go back to your discord and let the big girls do their thing, okay?