>>102145849

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

>>102146264
for the failed ones maybe. Dooby is the only one I can think of. Kson is too much of a whore to come back to Holo. Most of the failed indies were terminated, so no chance for them

Bae and Shiori have something in common.
Both have mega-sexy hot as fuck models.
Both were given to ESL asian shitters
Both should have been given to clear-voiced white women instead.

A reminder that the only 3 "ex holos" Not Kronii never followed are the 2 dead homonig and Nimi

>>102152871
>>102152934
yep, a naplingjanny

>>102153005
That's a self delete.

Ansewr me this. Why do the white women keep graduating, while the asian women treat the corporation like their bond with life itself?

>>102152993
>ESL
nigga you are the ESL

>>102153005
bro you really have no balls at all, just constantly switching shitposting angles after the slightest bit of resistance

>>102153015
>Nerissa
>Mori
>Kiara

>Ame
>White
Nigger retard

>>102153015
Asians are used to being abused while White people value themselves and know their worth.

>>102153033
unironically

>>102152959
This was one of the moments I realized how shit Gura's model was. She was blocky and stiff and totally got outshone by Bae just because of that. I cannot take people that really liked default Gura seriously.

>>102153015
Damn didnt know Chloe, Aqua and Shion were white too

>>102153015
Even the towerfags have noticed that the pattern continues with Advent and Justice. Nerissa, CC, ERB, are all very high graduation risks. Even FWMC are burning out.

>>102153015
I mean a few JPs have left the past year or two as well, and they're born and raised to expect to work their entire lives in a megacorpo.

but in general white girls generally are more often ironic weebs -at best- while asian girls tend to actually-care more because it's their actual culture and it's made and enjoyed by people who look like them.

>>102153033
>White people value themselves
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
I'm white western yuro and that shit is plain retarded
FUCKING NEGROES VALUE THEMSELVES MORE THAN THE AVERAGE SELF FLAGELLATING WHITE AND THEY ARE NEGROES

>>102153015
Aqua Chloe and Shion had no issues leaving. I would assume they're all asian.

>>102153061
DOES NOT COUNT!

>>102153033
One thing you will notice in life is that asians are EXTREMELY obedient to authority. They listen and obey. They follow rules, they read and copy. They are some of the most obedient people you can find.

alright lets pretend that RR, Mori, Nerissa, Kiara and ERB are not white i guess

>>102153053
FWMC burning out because all the jobs Gura had now are suddenly on them. They still stream more than Gura but they have do more shill shit and do the important 3D show and announcements

>>102153092
let's pretend any of them have a career outside of this

>>102153011
yeah probably, don't know if he just want to shitpost or doing that after seeing my post
>>102153021
my shitposting angle of that the janny doesn't care and not really a holojanny or naplingjanny?

>>102153092
ceci, fuwawa, mococko....

>>102153061
They didn't leave because they were pissed at the group, though. One wanted to chill around at her own pace in retirement mode, another is training her sister to get her nepohired later and Shion, idk what is going on with her

>>102153092
>ERB
who? she's already on the graduation streaming schedule

>>102153058
>>102153033
the word I think you guys are looking for is 'entitlement'. the whole karen meme is literally about entitled stuck up white girls.

although IMO it's partially that asian girls who know about JP idols and that entertainment scene know that if they play their cards right they can make the a lucrative career long term while some people (mooms) just don't have faith in this angle of entertainment since it's not really a thing in the West.

It doesn't really matter anymore. Everyone who had the numbers to leave and carry on, has already left. Maybe the top girls leaving now would be Dooby tier. You won't see anyone leaving and keeping a 10k average now. Most of Advent and Justice would struggle.

>>102153092
Mori and Kiara pretend they're Japanese and are filled with white guilt.

>>102153015
>>102153075

>>102153108
>They didn't leave because they were pissed at the group, though.
Who said any of them left because they were pissed at the group? Aqua and Gura are basically the same to me. Both wanted to take it easy.

are we /pol2/?

>>102153111
Nigga she's been like this since debut
Fucking living proof that they aren't forced to do shit

>>102153053
GG not gonna have a schedule next week because she wants to pay her sleep debt. Justice are just busy anon

>>102153085
Oh noeh.. the hoehs are propagating on their own noweh..

>>102153102
As much as dooby

>>102153139
How is the Canadian price just as grim as the American price even without tariffs

>>102153053
You can have persistent replies in Towa? How?

>>102153139
wtf

>>102153139
>Still 787 left
Irystocratbros, I don't feel so good... We are joining CC and Nerissa at this pace

>>102153117
>the word I think you guys are looking for is 'entitlement'
It's not. Americans value individualism. It's one of the core principles.

>>102153170
pic doko negro?

>>102153158
There's scripts you can install, to make it more usable

>>102153178
well yes too but that can lead to entitlement as well. because "I'm special and can do anything I want, therefore you need to go out of your way to do thing for me"

>>102153151
That's roughly $100 cheaper than the US price, though

>>102153015
it's not about being white, it's about having a normalfag brain which is predestined to only focus on money
whites are just more commonly normalfags

>>102153139
>bunch of plastic being treated as if they're airplane passengers with that shipping cost lol

>>102153196
>"I'm special and can do anything I want"
but the thing you're missing is.....they can. They actually can.
The company needs to switch to a 70/30 compensation model now the talents realize they can just walk away and keep 100%, with no horrendous JP rules binding them anymore

>>102153202
it's the fucking Cheebs man, those fat fucks require a ton of airfare to move around

also don't tell me there's no cheebs in the pack, they're in there as a secret bonus

>>102153170
nta but how do you check this? I checked the json file, but there's nothing there.

>>102153178
Thinking that the individual you should be valued as much as, if not more than the group is the peak of entitlement for Asians

>>102153178
None of this conundrum got anything to do with "individualism" or whatever polshit delusions you need to excuse simple lazyness
>>102153222
>they can. They actually can.
>Do the exact same shit
>Only 2 of them kinda retained their audience
yeah lol

>>102153201
>normalfag brain
You need to read a dictionary, ESLfag.

>>102153139
lmao this is the highest shipping fee i've seen in this catalog

>>102153139
not as expensive in freedom bux but if you added tariffs it would actually be more lol

>>102153139
git fucked

>>102153182
>>102153227
Nice try, interns!
But if you aren't Cover interns, it's one of the older tricks with a minor twist

>The HoloEN girls all left in bad faith and are bad, FIGHT ME
Yea, Same shit different day.

>>102153222
As Kronii said not long ago
"Being a part of something like Hololive is trully special"
And no matter how hard you wanna cope with your made up cut you have no data for or about le perms
They won't ever find anything out of Hololive that make them live the kind of kino experience that is the Fes for exemple
Out of Hololive they're just another vtuber

>>102153237
>whatever polshit delusions
>says whites are simply lazy
ogey retard

>>102153237
How many HoloEN girls do you think left? Also Dooby is getting the same numbers.

>>102153197
We have duties though, they are just charged by the courier. DHL is goign to ask for like $60 on a order like that.

>>102153271
>"Being a part of something like Hololive is trully special"
I think being part of the indie group feels way more special right now. It's exciting

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IEcgzQQvEZM

>>102153227
You need to press X to json, anon

>>102153278
>>102153284
You should have realized a long time ago that this is the same faggot shitting the thread. he's not arguing in good faith, he's arguing to argue.

>>102153278
The fact that they are lazy got nothing to do with them being white, you retarded nigger lol
>>102153296
>Le group
>Selenshit
>Pomu
>look into the group
>doesn't do anything particular
lol lmfao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asKzLx5FsXY
frame up

>>102153296
Until someone decides to backstab someone for whatever reason or has a fall out like every single indie group.

>>102153312
Pomu is more of an idol than your oshi

>>102153271
>"Being a part of something like Hololive is trully special"
It was, until you're being abandoned for other talents (even homos)

>>102153312
Holo does....minecraft? Still doing that huh?

>>102153320
Roru

>>102153296
nta but it's not really a group, just a leftover unofficial ejected association. they are the Tower of ENs if you consider most of these departures as the real cream of the crop of EN. which I wouldn't say is entirely true because we still have lots of good girls in Holo, but it does feel like the branch was severely pulled back in the scope of the talents' abilities. even if someone like gura or mooms barely streamed, their just existing meant it was still possible and we still might have gotten more kino like the first enreco from them eventually. mooms was gonna be done with school eventually, etc.

>>102153295
That seems higher than it is because it's under CAD. Their $180.87 (CAD) shipping cost is just $131 (converted to $US). It's just $12 higher than shipping the same two sets to the US

>>102153312
>barges into the conversation without reading it
>screeches and seethes like a monkey
>lol
>lol lmfao

>>102153271
she meant "special needs" when she said that.

>>102153326
>>102153328
>>102153334
Nice bingo of retarded liggers.

>>102153320
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'll wait for a better frame

>>102153351
kek

>>102153312
>>102153357
>deleted
lol lmfao

>>102153320
ayo disgusting

>>102153341
You are vastly overestimating the importance of "talents' abilities", both for the graduated members and current members. You brought up Gura and Moom as examples, but I can't remember any top moment during ENReco1 with Gura except the touching tips part, for example. Most of the popular moments involved the members who are still in HoloEN.

>>102153320
No Saba no watch

>>102153053
Damn towafags make phasefags look like liberals

>>102153396
Cover can hire Amy Schumer and suddenly she's the greatest comedian Cover ever hired.

frame is up, this looks surreal kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asKzLx5FsXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asKzLx5FsXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asKzLx5FsXY

Another premonition has been revealed to me in a dream, it just keeps happening
>notSana will get a new idol/corpo costume
Geee I wonder what could be the meaning of that, not like it is something unexpected but whatever.

>>102153320
Rumao

>>102153053
putting up with absolute garbage jp work standards = work ethic

>>102153423
Trash models all of them, at least dooby looks like a homeless street urchin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMGkE4W9YQA
no loligod su...

>>102153015
Because ultimately Cover wants holo "EN" to be full of bilingual asian girls that pander to JP or some other region in the long run. If they could, they would just hire a bunch of fuwamocos that worship Japan in every way. It's ideal for them, white girls are fully western so they don't worship corporations like Japanese do. I'm fully convinced they prioritize hiring asians over everyone else for holoEN, it's not a coincidence, but it also helps that a lot of western asian girls are vtubers. Canada alone produces fucktons of asian vtuber girls.

uh oh

>>102153459
show what you consider a god tier model

>>102153396
>enreco
try providing an example that isn't from the downfall of holoEN

>>102153459
I'm sorry you're gay.

>>102153483
And what does nimi and saba larping as Asians tell you?

aeiou

>>102153492
why did she do it?

>>102153493
BAHAHAHAHA

>>102153503
headpat the rice shower

>>102153483
>I'm fully convinced they prioritize hiring asians over everyone else for holoEN
They hired 3/4 white people for Justice
Even Advent is majority white

>>102153493
>larping
Stop trying to blend in newfag, lurk a 100yrs.

>>102153423
All terrible collab partners in collabs

>>102153517
they're transracial please respect it

>>102153483
>prioritize hiring Asians
>both advent and justice are majority white

>>102153532
FWMCWNBJ

>>102153517
Advent is 2/5 asian though

>>102153517
>>102153534
>2 of those white women are ESL
>zero american

>>102153491
What "downfall of holoEN"?
ENReco's popular moment? I will even give you 3 that just popped up in my mind: Gonathan G story. Princess Biboo. IRyS's harem and her attempt to steal pearl to push Gonathan into action.

>>102153551
They are called HoloEN, not HoloAmerican

>>102153487
QRD?

>>102153551
They are EFL, they just larp with weird accents but they are definitely EFL
Nerissa is American and Canadians are no different from Americans

>>102153551
and? still white retard don't move the goalpost

>>102153553
enreco is the most cringe fucking box event they've ever done forced on them by management

>>102153577
these streams won't even reach anywhere close to 100k

>>102153575
EN implies American

>>102153519
Oh shit you subbed to Veronica and Laura?

>>102153341
Nigga the fuck are you talking about Mumei barely existed in ENRECO and Gura’s biggest contribution was failing to cuck Gonathan and a gallow nobody used

>>102153602
No one is expecting 100k
I'd be happy with 50-60k

Even Zeta sold out her limited merch.

>>102153577
oh look they actually pinned it

>>102153483
Myth
2/3 white
Promise
0/3 white
Advent
3/5 white
Justice
3/4 white

>>102153615
>>102153519

>>102153598
>Biggest box event over the last 3 years
>Majority of the girls enjoyed it
Your oshi decided to spend most of her time playing solo, I take it?

>>102153633
CC and Kiara already sold out too. IRyS just needs a little time, she's no side character.

>>102153534
>>102153517
these, also asians just have way higher odds of being weebs from my experience so there are just more of them in this general space doing things.

like why are so fucking many chuubas chinese-canadian girls? not just holoEN but the entire EN scene? because that's one of the highest populations of east asians in the West if not the highest and they just weeb out more often.

>>102153598
The fans of it are definitely the cringe tourist type that likes events and has no oshi

>>102153503
She's just giving her heart out to naplings

>>102153618
management put retarded building requirements where you could only build in your square, dumbest thing ever

>>102153657
You know males aren't allowed in the server.

>>102153618
NTA but not sure how that's relevant to his point. If they still exist then there's always the possibility of them being involved in new moments in the next one. But if they're gone then that's that, no more possibilities. People remember moments, not stream time, all it takes is one moment.
Anons like you are why Gigi felt so pressured to concoct kino for ENRECO season 2 when trying to force storylines basically ruins the entire point.

is this thread a thinly-veiled anti-white thread by browns?

>>102153700
I dont even know why they bother with these

>>102153396
>but I can't remember any top moment during ENReco1 with Gura except the touching tips part
LMAO. I'm guessing you're a newfag who only watches GG

>>102153698
Worse, it's a thinly-veiled anti-white thread by yellows

>>102153698
Yes. It's been that way for a while now.

>>102153689
nta but all I remember now from enreco 2 was Irys' fart-birth, which funnily enough had 0 to do with the staff's story or gigi.

>>102153672
Because they're networking with each other to get into these roles.

>>102153657
they enjoyed it so much they had to make the 2nd one mandatory due to lack of attendance

>>102153698
Brown board

>>102152976 (OP)
Recent Clip Numbers
>>101957686
>>101957702
>>101957717

>>102152976 (OP)
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>63,121: Pekora (Hololive)
>41,691: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>39,403: Lamy (Hololive)
>32,843: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>31,306: Chiroru (Indie)
>29,453: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>29,246: Marin (Nijisanji)
>28,929: Kanata (Hololive)
>22,891: Bijou (Hololive)
>20,995: IRyS (Hololive)
>19,961: ReGloss (Hololive)
>19,722: Fubuki (Hololive)
>19,573: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>18,222: Sendo (VSPO)
>17,571: Pekora (Hololive)
>16,041: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>14,692: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,169: Suisei (Hololive)
>12,485: Qpi (VSPO)
>12,145: Elizabeth (Hololive)
>11,528: AZKi (Hololive)
>11,441: Nimi (Indie)
>11,009: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,790: Bae (Hololive)
>10,031: Towa (Hololive)

>>102153715
nta that fart-birth is with biboo kronii and GG no?

>>102152976 (OP)
JUN 2025 GOLD
>1) 140,836: Toya (nijisanji) 3D LIVE [41]
>2) 44,760: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN [25]
>3) 119,212: Miko (hololive) Switch2 [29]
>4) 60,431: Nijisanji (nijisanji) nijidatoka 1st one man live free part [24]
>5) 71,456: Miko (hololive) holo marika tourney [30]
>6) 116,290: Kestrel (nijisanji) 3D reveal [27]
>7) 107,161: Hajime (hololive) 3D LIVE Bday [35]
>8) 82,202: Kuzuha (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN [41]
>9) 38,068: Kuzuha (nijisanji) LOL [19]
>10) 54,566: Kanae (nijisanji) apology stream [26]
>11) 223,729: Kuzuha (nijisanji) 2M subs celebration Live [35]
>12) 62,284: Kuzuha (nijisanji) GTA MADTOWN [27]
>13) 69,155: Kuzuha (nijisanji) GTA MADTOWN [29]
>14) 62,476: Botan (hololive) holo minecraft event [36]
>15) 280,906: Nijisanji (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 [33]
>16) 132,331: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [18]
>17) 150,806: Miko (hololive) Switch2 lottery [25]
>18) 110,713: Iroha (hololive) 3D LIVE Bday [30]
>19) 56,810: Ex Albio (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [31]
>20) 89,809: Kagami (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [27]
>21) 46,487: Miko (hololive) Marika challenge stream ends if below 8th place [32]
>22) 159,040: Miko (hololive) switch2 win announcement [36]
>23) 57,174: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #3 [27]
>24) 57,708: Marine (hololive) Return stream [15]
>25) 73,828: AZKi (hololive) Graduation announcement (from Victor Entertainment) [24]
>26) 40,371: Miko (hololive) making thumbnails for holomem [17]
>27) 125,500: Meloco (nijisanji) 3D Reveal [27]
>28) 55,499: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [35]
>29) 199,791: Saba (indie) Debut stream [40]
>30) 73,771: Kuzuha (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [25]

> PER COMPANY
17x: nijisanji
11x: hololive
2x: indie

> PER STREAMER
8x: Kuzuha
6x Miko
2x: Kanae, Nijisanji
1x: Toya, Kestrel, Hajime, Botan, Iroha, Ex Albio, Kagami, Tsukasa Tenkai, Marine, AZKi, Meloco, Saba

>>102153750
hmm yeah I think you're right, but more of was referring to the gonathan storyline of which I don't remember much now. they were just kind of freestyling it the last 2-3 days and it got too jumbled for me to bother keeping close tabs on to be honest. I was at the time much more concerned with fuwawa getting forgotten for example

>>102153709
I'm actually a brrat but I spent most of my time watching Irys or Ina since Bae wasn't around.
That doesn't matter, though. Unless chumbuds were being super secretive, I don't quite remember that many Gura mention in this very thread or /hlgg/ during ENReco1. You'd expect that, had there been that many remarkable moment from her, there would've been countless liveposts and clips.
(Again, I didn't say Gura didn't play any part - she did, the touching tip was an example, but pretending that she or Moom contributed more significant parts to ENReco1 due to their "abilities" than current members was just untrue)

>>102153773
JUN 2025 SILVER
>1) 82,252: Hololive (hololive) 3D LIVE 1st Gen 7th anniversary
>2) 34,985: Okayu (hololive) Rythm Tengoku
>3) 82,326: Subaru (hololive) Subaru's Cabin ft. Pekora
>4) 42,162: Miko (hololive) Marika
>5) 39,542: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN
>6) 115,517: Watame (hololive) 3D LIVE Bday
>7) 46,313: Subaru (hololive) BLEACH Rebirth of Souls #9
>8) 62,390: Subaru (hololive) BLEACH Rebirth of Souls FINALE
>9) 35,180: Miko (hololive) Minecraft event DAY1
>10) 37,856: Miko (hololive) Minecraft event DAY2
>11) 101,434: Lui (hololive) 3D LIVE bday
>12) 39,587: Botan (hololive) Minecraft event daily report Day4
>13) 50,568: Botan (hololive) Minecraft event daily report Day5
>14) 59,411: Kuzuha (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN
>15) 104,109: Lauren (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN
>16) 62,725: Kaede (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 #1
>17) 88,214: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>18) 70,689: Kanae (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 #1
>19) 54,371: Sasaki (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>20) 63,775: Lize (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>21) 43,662: Miko (hololive) Marika challenge stream ends if below 8th place
>22) 79,248: Miko (hololive) Switch2 Mario Kart World
>23) 51,223: Ex Albio (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>24) 39,545: Miko (hololive) PEAK w/ Mio, Subaru
>25) 53,755: Noel (hololive) YakamashiMusume drinking collab
>26) 38,872: Maimoto (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 #4
>27) 47,580: Moka (VSPO) 3D Reveal
>28) 51,855: Mio (hololive) 3D quiz stream
>29) 70,072: Fuwa (nijisanji) MADTOWN
>30) 73,053: Saba (indie) first KARAOKE

> PER COMPANY
17x: hololive
11x: nijisanji
1x: VSPO
1x: indie

> PER STREAMER
6x: Miko
3x: Subaru
2x: Botan, Kanae
1x: Hololive, Okayu, Watame, Lui, Kuzuha, Lauren, Kaede, Shiina, Sasaki, Lize, Ex Albio, Noel, Maimoto, Moka, Mio, Fuwa, Saba

>>102153725
>mandatory
>several members sat out one day or another due to work schedules
Does not compute

>>102153788
JUN 2025 BRONZE
>1) 46,737: Subaru (hololive) BLEACH Rebirth of Souls #8
>2) 33,782: Botan (hololive) Holo minecraft event
>3) 78,991: Kuzuha (nijisanji) Zatsudan
>4) 40,235: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN
>5) 38,935: Pekora (hololive) Mario Kart World
>6) 47,107: Miko (hololive) Pokemon Ruby
>7) 43,233: Okayu (hololive) Mario Kart World w/ FubuMio
>8) 50,754: Nijisanji (nijisanji) Niji pokepoke tournament preliminary
>9) 30,983: Botan (hololive) Hololive Minecraft event Day1 daily report
>10) 34,750: Botan (hololive) Hololive Minecraft event Day2 daily report
>11) 41,452: Botan (hololive) Hololive Minecraft event Day3 daily report
>12) 39,343: Pekora (hololive) Minecraft event day4
>13) 37,754: Miko (hololive) Minecraft event last day
>14) 42,767: Kuzuha (nijisanji) Mario Kart World
>15) 46,278: Miko (hololive) Soul Calibur VI
>16) 56,507: Leos (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>17) 74,807: Ibrahim (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 #1
>18) 41,037: Miko (hololive) Minecraft Hardcore
>19) 36,945: Maimoto (nijisanji) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #2
>20) 43,234: Miko (hololive) Pokemon Ruby
>21) 42,968: Leos (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>22) 63,998: AZKi (hololive) 3D Collab dajare ASMR battle
>23) 35,405: Furen (nijisanji) Nijisanji owarematen collab
>24) 30,535: Hebi (indie) pseudo 3D reveal gimmick
>25) 39,672: Lauren (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN
>26) 37,643: Subaru (hololive) Donkey Kong
>27) 44,972: Chiroru (indie) baseball
>28) 44,481: Kagami (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>29) 38,947: Miko (hololive) UFC5
>30) 56,148: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #5

> PER COMPANY
16x: hololive
11x: nijisanji
3x: indie

> PER STREAMER
6x: Miko
4x: Botan
2x: Pekora, Kuzuha, Leos, Subaru
1x: Kanae, Okayu, Nijisanji, Ibrahim, Maimoto, AZKi, Furen, Hebi, Lauren, Chiroru, Kagami, Tsukasa Tenkai

>>102153799
JUN 2025 holoID
>1) 2,612: Iofi (Baldur's Gate 3)
>2) 3,335: Risu (M.M.M.)
>3) 4,188: Kaela (Don't Starve Together)
>4) 3,641: Reine (HADES)
>5) 6,688: Kaela (Old Market Simulator) [2]
>6) 9,445: Risu (DINKUM)
>7) 7,538: Iofi (Baldur's Gate 3) [3]
>8) 7,288: Zeta (3D Karaoke) [2]
>9) 5,864: Kaela (PemaloeDay2025)
>10) 11,960: Risu (DINKUM)
>11) 5,186: Anya (Minecraft event)
>12) 7,489: Kaela (Mario Kart World) [2]
>13) 1,819: Reine (Lorelei and the Laser Eyes)
>14) 4,870: Kaela (Mario Kart World)
>15) 9,669: Kaela (R.E.P.O.) [2]
>16) 8,809: Kaela (Don't Starve Together)
>17) 2,343: Risu (Spilled!)
>18) 2,204: Ollie (DINKUM)
>19) 11,057: Kaela (Don't Starve Together w/ MoonKae)
>20) 2,852: Anya (Your Turn To Die -Death Game By Majority)
>21) 4,646: Kaela (Chrono Odyssey)
>22) 10,737: Risu (to a T) [3]
>23) 2,661: Risu (Monday Morning Malas)
>24) 5,168: Risu (DINKUM)
>25) 6,235: Moona (V3LVET Watchalong Kpop Demon Hunters)
>26) 7,337: Kaela (Ship, Inc.)
>27) 8,558: Ollie (R.E.P.O.) [2]
>28) 2,904: Kaela (Ship, Inc.)
>29) 1,234: Iofi (GARTIC PHONE WITH KKC)
>30) 6,385: Kaela (Minecraft)

> PER STREAMER
12x: Kaela
7x: Risu
3x: Iofi
2x: Reine, Anya, Ollie
1x: Zeta, Moona

>>102153781
Wait, you're the guy that was larping as Irystocrat and seething at Nimi last thread?

>>102153579
CookieSwirlC hinted in the first 10 seconds of her latest upload she was likely going to stream but her live setup messed up, so it became a video instead. One of the top comments on the video was a long-time young fan showing interest in her streaming. This might encourage her to actually become a streamer.

>>102153774
thats probably because Shiori keep looping her break up with gonathan for 3 days straight

>>102153811
JUN 2025 Floor tally
>1) 10,185: Gigi (hololive) FALLOUT: NEW VEGAS [41]
>2) 10,015: Tsuna (VSPO) Stardew Valley [25]
>3) 10,040: Ichihoshi (indie) baseball watch [29]
>4) 10,306: Kagami (nijisanji) goblin gnome horn [24]
>5) 10,462: Sho (nijisanji) Mario kart world [30]
>6) 10,139: Rou (nijisanji) MADTOWN [27]
>7) 10,054: Gehenna (AKA Virtual) anniversary stream [35]
>8) 10,051: Noel (hololive) Elden Ring Nightrein w/ Flare, Pekora [41]
>9) 10,306: Lauren (nijisanji) LOL [19]
>10) 10,300: Nose (VSPO) VALORANT [26]
>11) 10,017: AZKi (hololive) holo minecraft event DAY3 [35]
>12) 10,002: Cecilia (hololive) SHOVEL KNIGHT [27]
>13) 10,537: Ibrahim (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN [29]
>14) 10,019: Koyori (hololive) Tokimeki Memorial 2 #1 [36]
>15) 10,812: Su (hololive) Birthday Countdown [33]
>16) 10,770: Noel (hololive) Pokemon Silver #07 [18]
>17) 10,518: Flare (hololive) ELDEN RING NIGHTREIN [25]
>18) 10,016: Nimi (indie) We Ski [30]
>19) 10,243: Hinano (VSPO) GTAV MADTOWN #14 [31]
>20) 10,093: Raora (hololive) ART CHALLENGE [27]
>21) 10,177: Rou (nijisanji) MADTOWN [32]
>22) 10,217: Rikiichi (nijisanji) yashiro collab [36]
>23) 10,124: Ina (hololive) ELDEN RING: NIGHTREIN [27]
>24) 10,191: Sakuna (indie) Shadowverse WB [15]
>25) 10,044: Hinano (VSPO) GTAV [24]
>26) 10,065: Hololive (hololive) holocard new info [17]
>27) 10,254: Rou (nijisanji) MADTOWN [27]
>28) 10,040: Ex Albio (nijisanji) MADTOWN [35]
>29) 10,232: Roberu (holostars) GTA5 MADTOWN [40]
>30) 10,751: Koyori (hololive) MonHun Wilds [25]

> PER COMPANY
12x: hololive
4x: VSPO
3x: indie
9x: nijisanji
1x: AKA Virtual
1x: holostars

> PER STREAMER
3x: Rou
2x: Hinano, Koyori
1x: Gigi, Tsuna, Ichihoshi, Kagami, Sho, Gehenna, Noel, Lauren, Nose, AZKi, Cecilia, Ibrahim, Su, Noel, Flare, Nimi, Raora, Rikiichi, Ina, Sakuna, Hololive, Ex Albio, Roberu

>>102153781
>I'm actually a brrat

>>102153781
Faggot

>>102153647
If you don't want to admit these bitches are pretendopanese you can just not reply

>>102153826
JUN 2025 HIGHLANDER
>1) 140,836: Toya (nijisanji) 3D LIVE
>2) 44,760: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN
>3) 119,212: Miko (hololive) Switch2
>4) 60,431: Nijisanji (nijisanji) nijidatoka 1st one man live free part
>5) 38,935: Pekora (hololive) Mario Kart World [B]
>6) 116,290: Kestrel (nijisanji) 3D reveal
>7) 107,161: Hajime (hololive) 3D LIVE Bday
>8) 82,202: Kuzuha (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN
>9) 30,983: Botan (hololive) Hololive Minecraft event Day1 daily report [B]
>10) 22,761: Chiroru (indie) Baseball [5th]
>11) 101,434: Lui (hololive) 3D LIVE bday [S]
>12) 27,349: Lauren (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN [6th]
>13) 28,535: Subaru (hololive) Minecraft event last day [6th]
>14) 23,666: Ayame (hololive) Utawaku [9th]
>15) 30,862: Fuwa (nijisanji) MADTOWN [6th]
>16) 62,725: Kaede (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 #1 [S]
>17) 88,214: Shiina (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [S]
>18) 110,713: Iroha (hololive) 3D LIVE Bday
>19) 56,810: Ex Albio (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>20) 89,809: Kagami (nijisanji) NijiKou2025
>21) 42,968: Leos (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 [B]
>22) 63,998: AZKi (hololive) 3D Collab dajare ASMR battle [B]
>23) 57,174: Tsukasa Tenkai (indie) Nijisanji Koushien 2025 #3
>24) 57,708: Marine (hololive) Return stream
>25) 53,755: Noel (hololive) YakamashiMusume drinking collab [S]
>26) 38,872: Maimoto (nijisanji) NijiKou2025 #4 [S]
>27) 125,500: Meloco (nijisanji) 3D Reveal
>28) 51,855: Mio (hololive) 3D quiz stream [S]
>29) 199,791: Saba (indie) Debut stream
>30) 27,266: Furen (nijisanji) utawaku collab [5th]


> PER COMPANY
2x: nijisanji
2x: hololive
1x: indie

Enreco s2 was better because no Fauna to shit it up with a nothingburger story arc

>>102153814
No. I don't even know what happened last thread because I just woke up in middle of the night and am trying to get myself back to sleep. I just didn't agree with the other guy when he was said that
> the branch was severely pulled back in the scope of the talents' abilities
yet used Gura and Moom's ENReco 1 participation as example. Heck, had he used their singing abilities as example I'd have agreed.

>>102152976 (OP)
100k by holos in 2025

1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)

# of 100k streams last year: 58

>>102153849
seethe

rate the black companiness of anycolor and cover corp


ChatGPT said:
Here’s an honest comparison of Anycolor Inc. (Nijisanji) and Cover Corp. (Hololive) in terms of their “black company” traits — a Japanese term used to describe exploitative or toxic corporate environments. The scale runs from 1 (clean) to 10 (extremely black company), based on reported behaviors, transparency, talent treatment, and public controversies.

Criteria for Rating
Transparency

Workload & Burnout

Support for Talents

Freedom of Expression

Handling of Controversies

Graduation/Termination Practices

Anycolor (Nijisanji)
Black Company Score: 7.5/10

Major Issues
Abrupt Terminations: Sudden contract terminations with vague reasons (Yugo Asuma, Zaion LanZa), sometimes with alleged character assassination in public statements.

Poor Crisis Management: Lack of timely defense/support for talents in harassment scenarios (e.g. during concert ticketing failures or drama on X).

Content Censorship: Tight restrictions on content and collabs; talents occasionally express frustration indirectly.

Lack of Transparency: Some talents reported finding out about company decisions (like 3D delays or graduation plans) at the same time as fans.

High Graduation Rate: Dozens of livers have left or been removed, especially in EN — suggesting instability.

Positive Aspects
Strong infrastructure for JP livers.

More streaming freedom in terms of volume and platform.

International support for large concerts and 3D events.

Cover Corp. (Hololive)
Black Company Score: 5/10

Problem Areas
Inconsistent Support for EN/ID: Talents (especially in EN) often face burnout, content stagnation, or delayed 3D/studio support.

Ghosting & Silence: Fans often left in the dark when talents vanish (e.g. Sana, Gura, Shion); lack of clear updates.

Strict Rules: Content, music, and off-collab restrictions can be stifling; Cover is often seen as overprotective.

Graduation Concerns: Though rare, graduations (e.g. Coco, Aloe) have occasionally felt suppressive or unexplained.

Better Than Anycolor Because:
Graduations are typically handled gently with tribute streams and merch.

Cover rarely terminates talents — most leave voluntarily or are given long breaks.

Talents have more input on 3D showcases and alternate outfits.

Mental health breaks and irregular streaming are tolerated longer without consequences.

Summary Table
Company Black Score Notable Issues Mitigating Strengths
Anycolor 7.5/10 Terminations, vague comms, talent neglect, censorship Large concerts, looser streaming rules (JP)
Cover Corp 5/10 Communication silence, strict rules, EN/ID delay problems Kind graduation policy, mental health tolerance

TL;DR
Anycolor behaves more like a traditional “black company” — abrupt terminations, poor communication, and power imbalance between company and talent.

Cover Corp is far from perfect, but maintains better long-term trust and care, especially around graduation and mental health.

Want a deeper comparison of how both companies handled specific events (like Yugo vs Aloe vs Zaion vs Gura breaks)? I can break those down case by case.

>>102153423
I just hope Doki lets the others talk. LIke how are we supposed to hear Nimi talking with Doki splatterlaughing all the time

>>102153865
>ChatGPT
Stopped reading there. 0/10, death to machines.

>>102153716
In Niji yeah but it's not like Bae, Ina, Kronii, Shiori, and GG knew each other before Holo.

>>102153865

>>102153865
Same

Maybe there might be too many Umamusume streams going on recently, but I am NOT going back to ENReco talk again, thank you.

>>102153850
it was just one specific example and I meant more from that "at least Gura existed as a draw in enreco before, but that can't ever happen again". the opportunity for interesting interactions from a lot of girls is just closed off permanently now, well at least within Holo itself.

>>102153837
Maybe if you type a proper sentence.

>>102153865
Why do browns love ai so much

>>102153912
make it like a 3 day event and I'd think it'd be fine

Saba's honeymoon phase nearly over already?

>>102153923
They can't think for themselves

>>102153939
good lord you are retarded

>>102153923
AI is the future, old man

>>102153939
I dunno if it's gonna become a serious drag but her stream time fucking sucks for NA. I literally can't watch her besides on the weekends because I'm at work. I feel like people were trying to go the extra mile to catch her live because of all the hype but that's not sustainable for people to keep up since we don't have infinite sick days or long lunches.

>>102153923

>>102153939
Stabilizing. But the last 2 were debuffs and half the duration of RE4.

>>102153939
Half the length streams = half the views.
Also, comparing a week old stream to yesterday's stream is kinda retarded.

>>102153865
Can you repeat this but include Phase Connect, VShojo, and Brave? Maybe add Wactor and Eien for kicks

>>102153974
It's only bad for the least populated region of the US, outside the mountains. The west coast is just a dead region that is already saturated with vtuber streams.

>>102153939
She wishes

>>102153976
tbf India makes up 1/5th of the world, you should ask for per capita.

>>102153980
I don't really think lighthouse game was debuff. It held viewers really well. Sure, no one is coming to see the game but it's not filtering any of her viewers either.

>>102153923
they're creatively bankrupt.

>>102150238

After re-reading last thread (a mistake I know), of all schizos we got, this random guy that drives by shitpost GG and CC is so fascinating to me. He embodies that meme of:

>Posts shitpost
>Never elaborates
>Leaves

Its different compared to the normal Holo vs Holo/Ligger shitterry since it's very specifically targets this duo, that I immediate took notice it's always the same drive by shitpost

>>102153983
do the black companiness rating again but for Phase Connect, VShojo, Brave, Wactor and Eien


ChatGPT said:
Here’s a new “black company” rating (0=clean, 10=extremely toxic) for the VTuber agencies Phase Connect, VShojo, Brave, WACTOR, and EIEN, based on public reports and community feedback:

Phase Connect — Score: 4/10
Reputation: No major controversies. Seen as new and developing.

Pros: Small scale, independent-focus, no known talent conflicts.

Cons: Some concerns about rapid expansion, but no leaks or abuse reported.
Light grey zone — standard growing pains, but no signs of exploitation.

VShojo — Score: 2/10
Reputation: Considered “talent-first” with supportive practices.

Pros: Public statements of helping talents (e.g., assisting with tax issues)

Cons: Standard corporate constraints; no public accusations of mistreatment.
Mostly clean, with positive reputation and low-risk environment.

Brave Group — Score: 5/10
Reputation: Mid-size Japanese agency; no major abuse scandals.

Concerns: Criticism for “spamming waves” of new talents — possibly stretching support thin .

Pros: Formal partnerships and business structure suggest stability .
Neutral territory: No egregious issues, but scaling pace poses risk.

WACTOR (now 910inc) — Score: 9/10
Reputation: Widely regarded as highly toxic or black:

“WACTOR is simply just straight up evil.”


Abuses include:

Doxxing former talents (public personal info)
株式会社Brave group
+6
Niche Gamer
+6
VTuber NewsDrop
+6
.

Coerced contracts, debt bondage, coercion for sex favors

Forced channel takeovers, lack of support/resources

Multiple suicide attempts connected to stress .

Mitigation: Rebranded and pledged independent profit rights, but many issues remain .
Classic black company — extremely exploitative and dangerous.

EIEN Project — Score: 6/10
Reputation: Officially shut down. Public confirmed controversy around mismanagement.

Concerns: Reports of favoritism, contract failure accusations, toxic internal culture

Pros: Allowed talents to retain model IP; agency statement defended fairness
Reddit
+3
virtualyoutuber.fandom.com
+3
Reddit
+3
.
Between grey and black — systemic issues and poor treatment, but less overt abuse.

Summary Table
Agency Score Assessment Summary
Phase Connect 4/10 Minor growing issues, no serious complaints
VShojo 2/10 Talent-first, supportive, virtually no red flags
Brave Group 5/10 Neutral, but risk in expansion pace
WACTOR 9/10 Severely toxic, exploitative, widely denounced
EIEN Project 6/10 Toxic culture and mismanagement, but not extreme abuse

Verdict
VShojo is the least black — safe and talent-focused.

Phase Connect and Brave are in the grey zone — caution advised.

EIEN shows worrying internal issues.

WACTOR stands as a cautionary tale — a clear black company.

Let me know if you'd like detailed breakdowns of specific incidents or talent experiences!

>>102154017
It was capping her peak ccv which lowers the total views

>>102154031
>Coerced contracts, debt bondage, coercion for sex favors
Hot, sounds like prostitution

https://x.com/laplusdarknesss/status/1943583468123791678
Laplus doing another one of those "Smash or Pass" shorts, but with holo swimsuits this time.

>>102154014
>small peepee nips unable to draw asses and hips
the absolute state

>>102154057
>sounds like

before
and after working for hololive

>>102153939
Reminder that total immersion actually lowers the views. So if your audience are exiting and entering throughout the duration of the stream, the total views will be much higher. Long streamers like Biboo are benefited by this.

>>102154165
(me)
before and after working for the homos

>>102154165
you become a stock broker?

Why doesn't anyone do watchalongs of the free movies on youtube? They rotate movies a lot so there's always something to watch

>>102154183
>ads

>>102154185
I've never seen an ad so I assume any adblocker takes care of it

>>102154195
But they'd not talk about that

>>102154165
Before and after browsing /vt/

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/28c086c6206790ffd4e33fabb1d4cf2f8bd568b9?page=2

Thirdly, there is a fundamental issue in the very design of the management structure.

At Cover Corp, an internal initiative known as the "Tea Party System" was introduced with the aim of strengthening communication with talent. Under this system, CEO Motoaki Tanigo personally holds regular meetings with affiliated VTubers to directly hear their concerns and feedback. Among fans, this has been praised as a sign of sincere management.

However, looking at it from another angle, this also suggests that the on-the-ground management system is not functioning properly. The fact that the top executive needs to individually collect feedback from the front lines strongly implies that middle management—such as managers and team leads—may not be effectively building relationships with the talent or addressing issues as they arise.

In principle, for a publicly listed company, issues at the operational level should be escalated through a hierarchical structure and addressed through the relevant departments. Yet in this case, where the CEO is taking on individual responses through the "Tea Party" approach, it raises questions about governance—specifically, what authority the frontline managers actually have and whether decision-making is properly controlled.

At a stage where management should be compensating for the vulnerabilities of a personnel-dependent model, the management itself has also become overly reliant on individuals. This is a typical organizational risk that rapidly growing startups face when trying to scale up without having fully developed governance systems in place as a listed company.

Do you guys think YAGOO's tea party system is useful?

>>102154165
>Growing up

>>102154178
its from not a-chan video

>>102154228
This is so fucking retarded

>>102154228
How is a Gaijin supposed to talk to Yagoo?

>>102154228
For instance, at companies like Cover and ANYCOLOR, just five VTubers account for about 20% of total revenue

>>102154228
maybe, but it remains to be seen if this is actually working out for the talents. what would happen if those tea party concerns clash with another? what if that concern fucks with another talent as a consequence (you're giving Suisei too much attention, can you give us some too?)? so many things can happen with this.

>>102154228
I like how it's news to them that Cover has buttfuck retarded management when the fans called it out on day 1 pretty much. There's no saving this or making it better, Japanese companies are just straight up down syndrome. The fact that yagoo has to do his tea shit means that the people they hired to do their fucking job are not doing their job AT ALL and are just collecting a free paycheck.

>>102154228
>"Would you sleep with the CEO?" in an interview: A veteran idol who has experienced the dark side of the industry wants to change something about being a "showbiz manager"
Recommended article. What are they trying to say?

https://x.com/hakosbaelz/status/1943596124209901574

>>102153487
>>102153815
she wouldnt break 1k viewers after her second stream

>>102154341

>>102154329
And if you follow this genius article the CEO should be completely shut out like every other boring company.

>>102154031
>Brave Group — Score: 5/10
>Reputation: Mid-size Japanese agency; no major abuse scandals.
kek, ChatGPT-kun… gamebu is the first and OG black company moment

>>102154358
homosexual

>>102154341
Whorish

>>102154345
i've seen million sub minecraft youtubers barely break 300 viewers when they stream. your subs won't really follow you if you drastically change your content. though i'm very interested at how Cookie's gonna fare with streaming.

>>102154341
Meh, I think swimsuits should be kept simple, this is a bit too complicated.

>>102154415
But she's le chaos!

>>102154165
before and after you found out that the homos are not profitable and unity is not real

>>102154341
Are these actually outfits or nah? Why is there a reference sheet?

>>102154345
She'll be a low 3view at best because her fans aren't accustomed to live content, but once the wider adult vtuber community finds her she'll grow FAST.

>>102154426
If you want to go full chaos, make it just pasties on the nipples.

>>102154228
ironically enough, this very governance system is the main culprit why these talents are burning out to the point of graduating. this governance is the cause why Cover has fuckton of bureaucracy that sometimes worked against the talents with their cancelled projects, micromanagement, and whatnot. they don't really understand that extremely talent-dependent industries like vtubing don't really work like your usual office company.

https://x.com/ourokronii/status/1943596127380795818

>>102154451
Manager tweet?

Looks like phase has a sister corpo now
>>102151922

https://x.com/irys_en/status/1943596130480132151

>>102154415
too complicated? all it has is one belt that makes it different from a one piece swimsuit you'd find at the beach

>>102154461
sex

>>102154228
we got omega because Yagoo don't know shit with what happened in EN and just jerking off to the fantasy of brotubers that omega propose to him, i rather he keep doing this teaparty than him being back to somene who ENs can't meet and HoloEN have to deal to middle management to complain about something

>>102154415
You must have a very simple mind if this swimsuit is considered to be complicated

>>102154461
>>102154451
>>102154341
Why is there even a reference sheet for these merch? Feels like they're alluding to actual 3D models

https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1943599289994752451
qqqbeats

>>102154284
You don't. This is Nippon country!

>>102154461
wtf is dead mom hair?

>>102154435
yeah it's a really weird dichotomy where she's literally one of those jingly-keys brainrot-for-kids youtubers utterly and entirely... but she has a really fucking hot model and technically is vtubing with it.

to me logically she just isn't accustomed to or wants/needs much of anything vtubing offers. she's already mega ultra successful, and isn't a weeb either etc. what does she have to actually gain from this besides orbiters and drama? nothing. she'll stay in her lane. if I were in her shoes I absolutely wouldn't see any point to trying to break into the conventional vtuber sphere.

>>102154503
Holy shit.

Wait that's big, no?
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1943279256852926932
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1943279256852926932
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1943279256852926932

>>102154503

>>102154498
a fucking qbeat...

>>102154503
FMA

>>102154514
>noel
>drawn by yabuki kentaro
holy shit lmao
what a waste, he should be drawing a flattie

It only took losing multiple talents (A-chan to Gura) for this tea party, which is just hearing out concerns. not even any policy change. And of course, Dubai welfare will not be cut
how high is the bar for actual real change

>>102154536
It's a Jap company

>>102154536
A-chan is not a talent

>>102154519
bottom right looks like from hentai

>>102154536
still useless btw. only benefits the extroverts just like before.

>>102154469
>>102154487
Observe >>102154461
The actually good swimsuit.

>>102154528
Yeah, he should draw Mococo

>>102154461
holy shit that butt

>>102154536
>Dubai welfare will not be cut
they did cut them no? Astel talked about it like 2 months ago while complaining about other homos not wanting to have a meeting to talk about their future

>>102154261
it's the only sensible position you dumbfuck
if the only way to be heard is to skip middle management then why the fuck are they even there?

>>102154508
>she's literally one of those jingly-keys brainrot-for-kids youtubers utterly and entirely
No she's not, she literally has a channel where she plays Silent Hill and Resident Evil. She likes adult games, too.
>to me logically she just isn't accustomed to or wants/needs much of anything vtubing offers
True, but you could make the same argument about everything she's done post-2020. She could've retired for life but kept going. Youtube deleted 16 (b)illion video views worth of her videos last year and stopped recommending her content entirely so her channel stagnated, just look at the graph, yet she continued as if nothing happened and is still very happy with Koyori/Korone-tier energy in her 40s. This woman is not slowing down. Streaming to adults on the side is a natural next evolution for her for it saves her having to constantly edit videos and she'll make money off merch and new sponsorships.

>>102154544
from Higurashi

i dont like it when companies listen to the grievances of their employees over the people that count; their investors. it's not very Dodge vs. Ford of them. no wonder why their Prime application got rejected too!

>>102154595
16 Billions wtf? What happened?

Will she ever reach the same peak of popularity and icon status as her Gura identity?

>>102154615
I don't think she cares about that shit, anon. She just wants to be a silly cat fish girl streaming video games and singing.

>>102154228
funnily enough i was just watching Wamy having a one on one talk with Tanigox clip, where they're aware of their faults or with what or where they're lacking and are already addressing them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ABjcIyR6Q

>>102154074
sexpest

Eh funny

>>102154611
No one knows.

>>102154574 (me)
found this, i don't know if this is the right clip or not
https://youtu.be/qJGYLW3hFG4

>>102154634
with freaking JP of course. this wouldn't help gura.

>>102154634
is Lamy really a good representative of all the Hololive talents? what if her concerns don't really fit the other talent's concerns and it ends up further inconveniencing others because Cover thought it was the best way?

>>102154692
example?

>>102154228
I'm reminded a bit of how in the HBO Chernobyl series, where when the top gov officials met up to discuss the disaster that everyone was saying everything is fine and great except one dude who insisted to be listened to and only then did Gorbachev get an inkling of just how fucking bad a situation it actually could be. Gorby then sent people to personally go look at the reactor and report back to him directly because he knew asking rando middlemen to do it would just get him a canned "yeah everything's fine" response.

So this is as stated here yeah, looking like Yagoo only is really-sure wtf is going on by going and talking to the talents himself. For example he probably had years of being told everything is fine and great with EN and then was told Gura is leaving and realized no, something is fucking horribly wrong.

>>102154663
I'm looking for the other screens but I've got this one for now

>>102154615
what would be the point of that? she has plenty of money, people willing to work with her and can stream whatever she wants

>>102154341
>>102154451
>>102154461
So are these official new outfits or not?

>>102154717
No one else has posted these design sheets except for Promise so idk what's going on

>>102154663
>>102154711 (me)
Here's the clip >>96274998

>>102154228
No, that's why Nijisanji won. They cut the middleman and made the vtubers manage themselves. Extra profit for the company and the vtubers in power are happy.

>>102154710
everyday until you like it.

>>102154341
>>102154451
>>102154461
sex outfits except for the belts

>>102154461
why is she getting flatter

>>102154711
>>102154734
yeah this one, looks like they had enough of their shit

>>102154710
Reminds me of those slides they put out a while back. Some bullshit about staying positive and never saying that something won't work. Sometimes shit just isn't working, and you have to have people who will tell you that it isn't working.

>>102154745
I remember reading some articles from a gaijin who lived in Japan describing how weird and redundant most Japanese workplaces actually are. Like for whatever store selling I dunno, furniture, they will constantly have the employees move everything around inside the store every few weeks to basically act like they remodeled and put up a sign encouraging people to come see the "new" store. If you work at a job where you may have to stand around a lot waiting for customers oooh no they can't be having that, they will think of infinite small piddly useless tasks for you to do so you're "productive." Same kind of thing in the office culture.

>>102154791
After trying everything, there's nothing more Cover can do for them, especially if they won't pull their heads out of their asses

>>102154725
JP3 also posted theirs yesterday
https://x.com/usadapekora/status/1943233737426374725
https://x.com/houshoumarine/status/1943233744149843986
https://x.com/shiroganenoel/status/1943233740584493175
https://x.com/shiranuiflare/status/1943233744414081463

>17k CCV
>600 Likes
JP numbers are so fake

>>102154710
Yagoo saw Mori has like 300 songs while others have like 5 and said "This is fine".

>>102154837
Oh interesting, posted at the exact same time, one day ago. So these are probably manager tweets and they will release one gen of swimsuit designs every day

>>102154792 (me)
I can't find that slide so maybe I saw it in a dream.

I can't believe all the bitching about Saba's rigging being "twitch" when it's probably one of the most expensive and expressive rigs in existance.
That part of her chewing last night was heart melting cute

>>102154855
making others produce 497 more songs to match Mori's doesn't help either. this is actually one of those things that someone might have brought up on a tea party that's actually going to end up being detrimental to others. not everyone wants to do a Sololive or produce albums so you can't just forcem that to everyone.

>>102154878
you just saw the clip on x

>>102154874
>don’t point fingers
>apply insights instead
>oops Gura graduated because I forgot about her project
>it’s ok, we’ll do better next time
What a joke

>>102154899
nigga called it x lmao

>>102154341
>no ass

>>102154878
It's just seething retards who are only used to dogshit low quality rigging, you know who I'm talking about. Ask them the details and to compare, they won't answer.

>>102154878
i'm one of those people who think Saba's rig is Twitch-tier, but the one huge thing that sets her above twitch thots is that she knows how to pilot her model, so the model actually really works well with her! last time i saw someone this good at using her model was Cookieswirl

>>102154341
>>102154451
>>102154461

>>102154895
the solution can be as simple as yagoo implementing easier perms or them helping with producing to the holos who produce music, why forcing the first thing you think

>>102154874
https://note.cover-corp.com/n/n63742524d6c2

https://x.com/tivetives/status/1943005806745784444

>>102154895
No fool. We got Mori Fatigue now because it's always her releasing shit every 2 weeks, when we wanted Gura and Ina too. Balance that shit bruh.

>>102154791
>>102154792
until the branch is dead and gone don't think cover will ever give up on them
we've seen the pattern where they back off a bit then come back with more retarded shit
like a new gen is still a possibility even when they're reaching new lows

https://x.com/harusakinodoka/status/1942924197250113704

>>102154939
>helping them produce music
Dubais are going to abuse the shit out of this. Remember that one homo with his perms shenanigans? It resulted in harder perms for the girls

>>102154031
>Brave Group — Score: 5/10

https://youtu.be/TUDOrmRO47g

>>102154165
>before and after you are forcing to promote the homos

>>102154876
pretty lady

>>102153598
This is how you can tell how far this place has fallen. ENReco is everything that makes Hololive great. The collabs between talents, the group dynamics, the on the fly comedy. It's all wonderful. However, since ENReco 2 you always see faggots like you pop in here with "HURRR FORCED BY MANAGEMENT!!!". I really don't get it, it's a great event. Faggots like you need to just fucking leave and get a new hobby.

>>102154993
>forced
>he doesn't know

>>102154965
with them now seperating the twitter account, i doubt it, i guess thats why jutard botting himself and bragging about it, to show to cover that homos still have hope

>>102154993
>forcing to promote
achan new account is a fucking unityfag

Saba is holding the line against Nijibots

why isn't there a horse vtuber in holo

>>102154985
Grim. Why would Yagoo keep them apart?

>>102154979
thats why they need to find a solution to help talents produce music but also not letting the homos to abuse it, there are no reason for them to force talents to produce music like what that anon said

>>102154878
I've been telling people how good cillia was and cover should've hired her since she start her rigging bussiness 3-4years ago

>>102154878
>Twitch jello rig
>Good

>>102155000
you need some standards faggot. it's a worse version of already bottom of the barrel ran in to the ground content

>>102155107
Go to bed Donie, it's getting late

>>102155099
Which part of Saba is Jello? is it her tits? her ass?

>>102154878
speaking of Saba's rigging. i actually find it interesting that Saba actually exposed the truth that Japan is really stagnating when it comes to innovating Live2D. Saba's rig makes Kson's rig (which was once regarded as the "peak" of Live2D rigging that was rigged by Himono, Japan's finest rigger) look antiquated. it probably annoys corpos too because it's making them look bad and they'll be forced to work their ass to improve their rigs for once.

>>102154899
well post it

>>102155131
even mori admitted that on woolie's podcast

>>102155124
cope

>>102155086
Just prioritize those with the highest CCV during karaokes, it’s that simple, dumbass.

Meet your new local Homotroon
Kek

>>102155094
even if Cover hires her, they'll just make her rig something more restricted to cut costs.

>>102155137
https://x.com/Grxit/status/1943601565220098078

>>102155148
i'm not yagoo

>>102155158
is that what the voices in your head said?

>>102155094
Pointless. Cover would nerf her work because it has to be uniform with existing talents or their shitty app couldn’t handle it

>>102155163
you didn't have to link to the phasefag who quoted it
https://x.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1943539302408896816

>>102155182
nah i already happened a couple of times. Risu 1.0 and Kson was rigged by the same artist.

>>102154692
if you actually watched the clip, she mentioned that other talents also do one on one meetings with him, talents could request for this and they'd schedule it if they wanted to most especially if they're not able to attend those tea time ones

>>102155163
Why do Phasefags love dramafags so much?

>>102154461
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>102155207
When watching her play the lighthouse game today, she had a lot of funny reactions. Like when there was a suspicious or scary noise, her ears would stand up and she'd start looking around.

Phasecucks SEA monkeys seething about Hololive and Saba while their shitty company can't produce shit

>>102155163
>Outs himself as a Phasefag by linking a Phasefag twitter account
Wow, totally shocking that the ones constantly starting shit in this thread are Phasefags. I take it at this point that this thread and this place in general is never going to return to the way it was. I warned all of you about any tolerance for Phasefags and was not listened to. Now look at the state of this board.

Zeta is too poor to whale in gacha

>>102155207
>>102155277
Anooo... I just followed him for right wing memes
I'm not a phasefag. Trust me.

>>102154451
>>102154461
I'm so fucking jelly of what promise got
t. Mythfag

>>102155263
https://x.com/103_dandee/status/1942547684398711008
for me it was her "strawberry milk" bit. it gave me a realization that Gura's power is being suppressed by her jank model.

There's a corpo called Vtard?

>>102153320
>>102153423
I'm glad I only watch hololive

>>102155336
Yep, they're the second based corpo

>>102155307
You are full of shit

>>102155362
So it's the end for PhaseConnect?

>Gura was used as an attack on twitch vtubers who were spending 5 figures on their rigging
>Saba is being used as attack on corpo vtubers who use standardized and less detailed rigging

>>102155378
I only use Gura/Saba to coom

>>102155378
She'll always be the center of seethe. They just can't help themselves.

>>102155277
>people leave
>have the gall to look back at the arm you hacked off and go "wooow it's bleeding why would you do this"
it's such a cheap shot thing to do to braindrain this place and then blame someone for it other than yourselves. if the board sucks it's because you fucking made it suck by not being here to counter the shitters. nobody fucking forced you to leave, you just did it. you have to fucking own these consequences. you directly caused the absolute state of this board and did 100x more damage than any inattentive meido could fucking possibly do. blaming schizos for existing is begging the question why were you ever here then if it's so fucking insufferable - because it wasn't. things were better, there were much better conversations in between the shitters. leave and just concentrate up the amount of shitters and it's worse all around.

Daily omegay seethe from irystocrats

>>102155378
Gura is like the Max Verstappen of vtubers. she can make shitboxes work, but if you give her a good car, she utterly dominates the field.

>>102155377
Nope looks like they have a kino unhinged collab lined up

>>102155413
Fuck Omega

>>102155378
>meanwhile i hate both
Gura had to deal with a rigger that was so incompetent he was literally fired after chumbuds staged a rebellion on twitter (rhombus incident)
Definitely sucked

But I can't stand twitchrigging either, it's literally forced "MORE JIGGLE = GOOD" bullshit, why bother with realistic/accurate tracking when you can trick double-digit IQ normies into thinking it's good just because they see movement. I watched her debut and several times she'd randomly make "surprised" faces that clearly weren't intended.

>>102155413
Cover black company confirmed

>Gamers
>Everyone have a chair
>Fubuki is a beggar
Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJeo9zWQUrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJeo9zWQUrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJeo9zWQUrc

>>102155436
>clearly weren't intended
examples? thought she was being expressive on purpose to show off the tracking

>>102155430
Pippa is in?

>>102155424
Who's the Hamilton of Hololive?

>>102155336
BASED BASED BASED

>>102155465
Maybe
>>102152672

>>102155473
kson maybe.

>>102155484

Who?

>>102154027
its pretty much confirmed is that czech faggot from twitter, like is such an especific target he has with her while being an "otomo", also the writing style is just the same

>>102155484
Tweeting?
>>102155503
>Male
Disgusting whore

>>102155484
/vt/ used to be respected but now that all of our good posters moved over to the Tower we are a laughing stock.

>>102155508
Looks like a bunch of phasetrannys making their own based group

>>102155484
>Troon calling people troon

>>102155484
i mean, where's the lie?

>>102155436
yeah as has been said the problem is that the eyes move too much and pupils keep shifting around in size. it's quite normal for pupils to shrink in anime designs and such but that's as a specific reaction and they're not going all wonky up and down while just talking normally and looking around. that looks fucking utterly retarded.

goods news is she definitely would have the resources to have the rigging fixed so that the eyes look less wonky from normal movement etc. it's only been a few weeks however and I wouldn't expect touch-ups for probably a few months at least.

>>102155549
>>102153959

>>102155484
she can laugh it up all she wants, that corpo is gonna get banned just for its fucking name on twitch/yt. tards indeed.

Thread summary : white is good anything else instant slavery. Mods need to nuke the entire shit thread. Not a single number talk in sight

people on twitter caring about what happens /here/ is unhealthy

Jurard gold again?

>>102155065
Don’t worry, they saved all of the Ohayama bots to secure their regular Friday gold

>>102155539
Sorry I'm new here is tower really better than /vt/ ?

>>102155569
>fat fuck
I'm not surprised

>>102155629
Are you using internet explorer???
Why tf are you bringing up a 2 day old tweet

>>102155613
we need an AI thread summarizer

>prepare everything except streaming,keks

>>102155650
New one then

What passing an audition in 2021 does to a motherfucker.

>>102155726
better than some others.

>>102155637
>>102155539
Please move there and never come back,please?

>>102155680
>Ruffians love what theyre doing
>Faggot anon seething
Every fucking time

>>102155629
>>102155680
>>102155696
Uh oh Phasecuck...

>>102155750
So this place becomes even worse? We need somebody here to stand up to the dirty liggers and the Phase menace.

>>102155726
she was somewhat-known indie before niji however. I recall flips saying she was actually supposed to be a super hype entry and such. of all that gen/wave she was like the only one who actually legit qualified to be there from her background.

however the le gura killer expectations placed on her were impossible to match when her voice, personality etc just didn't match anything about her at all, the model itself is a mismatch to this day IMO. and of course she was one of the four horsewomen of the apocalypse heralding luxiem.

>>102155748
What are you even trying to communicate here, anon?

>>102155726
Literally Who?

anons here told me Saba's rigging is gross???

>>102155772
Thought the flips abandoned her after she said she'd rather marry a white man. I remember they didn't let her into Moomin Manila.

>>102155772
What..? I've never heard anything about Milie being a Gura killer. That was always Petra only since she was the origin of the meme and early enough in nijien's lifetime that people could be optimistic about girl talents

>>102155790
They think her tits jiggle too much or something.

>>102155617
/here/tubers want to ego search here and read the brownposting calling them whores

>>102155810
her whole model jiggles too much, wdym

>>102155772
she was one of the first flipchuubas so expectations towards her were high, but now every flip hates her because of the Selen shitshow.

>>102155801
It was being pushed hard prior to debut iirc, actually harder than petra ever was because "oooh look at the outline it's a witch loli, it's le gura killer!!!"

I think a lot of it was done just in jest, but considering this was lazusydia era nijiEN and they had some actual feeling of being a real rival to holoEN forming, some people were half-serious expecting them to keep getting more and more competitive.

>>102155814
If it's the whole thing, isn't that just called moving?

>>102155790
You can tell she really loves playing with it.

>>102155801
And NijiEN rig is 2x worse than rhombus

>>102155556
It's pretty funny how in this indie rigging "renaissance" going on, notA-Chan has been my preference for some kind of happy medium between Twitch rigging and corpo rigging. She moves well, nothing really exaggerated unless she moves too fast when she tilts her head to her shoulders, and having subtle gestures like her eyebrows adjusting when she laughs as her eyes close.

Since you guys are determined to talk about her, check out her ASMR later. She's not as terrible as some anons make her out to be.
https://youtu.be/cbYbzovxgI0

>>102155790
>Like a generic twitch jello rig
grim

>>102155872
>Since you guys are determined to talk about her
Whos talking about who?