Thread 102191001

Underwear Model Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.

Mouse is horse racing. Kson is doing some Death Stranding. That's it for now so pick a stream and keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

Image source: https://twitter.com/karatsuki_fox/status/1942841645554360652

VShojo is:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak

Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo

Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussion

Previous Thread: >>102186645

so how long before vshojo is officially dead? 1 month?

For all the mousefags and anti:
Geniunely think that mouse just doesn't promote the Vshojo brand itself when she herself is the biggest VTuber of the company.

>>102191080
Mouse said the Minecraft server is early August at the latest and she's dealing with a lot of things before then. So we'll just have to wait and see.

>>102191110
minecraft server with all the fleshies and clout-chasing persona, yes vtuber mouse

>>102191001 (OP)
God I want more art of Mouse in panties.
The foot fetish gooners are getting toe toggles can't I cag a panty flash toggle on one model?

Just nuke it. I’m tired of being disappointed.

>>102191001 (OP)
reminder that monke panties are unwanted and nano is no longer used by mouse for a reason

>>102191143
I'm still sad we didn't get more merch of her wearing her moeflavor collab. I would have taken even a poster.

>>102191128
>if it's a VShojo server it means VShojo has a little life in it and competence and the girls who play on in value the brand some
>if it's her own server VShojo's so incompetent their biggest talent had the make the server herself (she might even be /out/ before it releases)
This is how I see things. If it's a VShojo server VShojo will last a little longer and the girls still care about collabing and unity some. Mouse's own server = it's over or soon to be over.

i wasn't a mouse anti before but her always going live fuckin late like midnight hours then waking up when shes been live never thought I say this but Mouse's twitch career should die unironically

I miss lewd waifu Mouse.

>>102191173
I would laugh so hard if they add monke panties after this.
Hopefully they add the heart ahoge too

>>102191183
If Vshojo is over, then why are people leaving one by one?
Just close the store all at once if it's truly over.

Finding Vshojo live at this time zone is always a pleasure

>>102191313
nta but I don't think vshojo is over, but I do think Mouse is /out/.
I think they want to run a leaner ship.

>>102190915
I don't think it's something like oh I feel betrayed because it isn't a friend group it's a workplace,either the girls aren't that close as how they act when all working at vshojo or vshojo strongly recommends not to collab too much with the old talent
,and cos the old talent is still under NDA they can't say that that's the case

>>102191364
>I think they want to run a leaner ship
Can you explain your reasoning for why VShojo would want all of it's most popular talents gone?

>>102191364
She literally said she's not leaving Vshojo last month.

>>102191173
I mean aren't the monkey panties also part of that puppet music video?!,I'm sorry to say but she definitely is okay with it

>>102191393
Mouse is high cost high reward but that means if they pay for an even with her and It doesn't go how they wanted its a much bigger risk.
A few smaller talents are safer and they will all likely pick up dedicated fans who will watch sponsors or buy merch.

>>102191402
Yes and she also was not stressed about this heart breaking thing at that time, it happened a bit after that.
Not to mention that normally when there is a lot of rrats she will confirm it on stream that she is not leaving but she's been very silent about vshojo lately.

>>102191422
They can also probably take a bigger cut from smaller streamers merch and sponsors

>>102191173
panties broke u.......like bro are you a child or a fat retard with autism?

>>102191406
Monke panties are on
2 3d model
1 2d model
1 music video

>>102191393
mouse own popularity is just too big now, and she doesn't even give a boost for the company/members.
Mouse being gone would be a reset. Whether its good or bad, who knows

>>102191406
>>102191491
they're just panties I dont understand how they break one retard.

>>102191422
But the value of the brand grows with more popular members. It's how you get stuff like the Smite skin collab (before everyone left) and the GFUEL collab (before everyone left again)

>>102191512
kek who knows but I'm happy because I love seeing Mouse in panties and I'm pretty sure Mouse has shown monke panties sometimes just to spite monkesperg.

>>102191525
Yes again big risk big reward.
Because vshojo lets members keep IP it would be a better business strategy to have lots of smaller creator rather than a few big ones because that way one leaving can't risk taking half of the company revenue with them if they suddenly decide to leave.

Can my Hime streaming ration card be redeemed?

>>102191580
But they're also fucked if they do that because they can't afford to offer high quality services to a bunch of smaller creators who won't make them their money back. And Mythic already outcompetes them with the offer small creators sponsors and take a cut business model. VShojo bleeding all of their big talents is just a guaranteed death sentence.

>>102191580
>let's eliminate the risk of losing big talent by getting rid of the big talent

>>102191087
>Geniunely think that mouse just doesn't promote the Vshojo brand itself when she herself is the biggest VTuber of the company.
I mean she used to be the one that did it the most regularly promising big things coming for the agency but that ended up adding on to her being the biggest target. I even saw False shit on her once for that. It's not even her job to do it, that's the agency's fucking job. Remember the talent freedom thing? It also means she's not forced to promote them at every turn. She's allowed to do her own thing as much as the members that don't even stream.

>>102191723
Big talents are risky when they own their IP, they have power over the company.
If you say no to them too much they will leave and take a huge chunk of your profit with them.
I think they are fine with some big talents but I don't think they want to rely on them.

>>102191747
I'm not necessarily saying they are choosing to push her out but I think they wanted to change some terms to make more money from her and she fought it and they have reached a stalemate.

>>102191779
But how do they rely on small talents and stay solvent?

>>102191791
Hyena Dayo

>>102191763
I get the talent freedom, but Mouse should also know how to balance things. Now mouse is just chasing clout too much that which rubs other people the wrong way. like c'mon now

>>102191806
I said smaller not small but I think they could manage.
For the record I'm not saying this is a good idea but I think they have put themselves into a corner because of IP ownership.
No company should run with the risk that one person leaving could ruin the company.

>>102191803
you just made all that up

>>102191857
Yes I did, its called speculation based on what we do know.

>>102191879
>based on what we do know.
based on nothing

>>102191886
>We have lost multiple talents and staff.
>The last round of investment was a long time ago
>Mouse tweeted about standing up for herself
>Then after that something heart breaking happens
So I speculate vshojo needs to change things to stay afloat and tried to change contracts a little or change some of the direction of the company and Mouse was not happy with it.

>>102191806
Think of it this way. Having an overall reset makes the company not bend to contract negotiations with big talents. The mistake that Vshojo made is that they have different contracts for each member, which puts the company's knees if someone is planning to leave, thus giving a better contract to the more popular talent than the less popular ones.

>>102191930
yep sounds like nothing to me

>>102191954
Anon do you know what speculation means?
Yes I could be completely wrong I'm just discussing my thoughts.

man this thread has gone to shit with all these tourists and dramafaggots
meanwhile, ababababa

>>102191001 (OP)
She RUINED everything.

The Nagger queen is singing btw.
https://www.twitch.tv/nagisekaied

>>102191001 (OP)
I love when official ironmouse things are sexy.
It makes it 10x hotter.

abababa live, karaoke

Kson really seems to want an older man to take care of her and spank her when she’s bad

so that rrat right now is that they ran out of investment money right? that's why so many people are leaving without any comment on the company or individuals? that's why *smacks lips* there's no EN debuts?

Why are we making threads? Vshojo can technically be considered nonexistent.

>>102192057
This is true of every VShojo member

Moussie should get a black skin model and do MAGA content.

>>102192091
It only takes one person caring enough to spend like two minutes baking.

>>102192135
The more I thought about this I think it is just the case of girls do want someone who can also be like a dad to them

>>102192159
Holy

Mouse ASMR

I miss Mouse moans

>>102191763
The problem is more because vshojo's identity as a corp is too schizophrenic, some want it to be a 2D offline tv while some want it to become a traditional corp and both don't work together, you're either there to make sure talents funnel people to twitch with big flashy sponsorships or you're a corp with structure that actively sets up that events and gens one or two years in advance

>>102191989
There's blood in the water, give it time

>>102192242
Girls want a dad-like partner to spoil them, guys want a mom-like partner to spoil them

Is Mouse ever going to do her handcam streams.

>>102192508
no

>>102192508
We will never see her babyhands.

I miss the multiphoning schizo, the thread is dead without him.

>>102192508
Only on chaturbate

>>102192508
Its subgoal and Mouse hates her supporters so it will never happen.

>>102192634
I would not say no to that.

>>102192630
I was one of the people you accused of being the multiphone schizo by the way.

Guys, I feel like there is a part of the entire Ironmouse vs. Zentreya schism that has been overlooked. Arielle hasn't interacted with Zen since the 30th, and she has left or been kicked from the Zentreya discord, much like how Zen shut out Gunrun and Mouse.

It might be related to the fact that Ari streamed with Mouse on the 1st of July, and seemingly has continued to choose Mousey over Zen. Whether that is because of GeeXPlus, or because Ari is the leech people claim, or because Zen went ballistic after she didn't accept shutting out Mouse I would not know. However, it worries me, because Zen had a quite blatant crush on Ari so the percieved betreyal might entirely shatter the godtier collab combo of Froggy + Ari + Heavenly + Zen.

As a fan of all those four, I sincerely hope that this is either this will all sort itself out, or that (as morbid as the wish is) that this is somehow Mouse's fault so that things can fix themselves. But with the potential of Zenhera issues, I really have no clue what's happening anymore.

>>102192770
Wait, Ari isn't in Zen's Discord server? I'll ignore all the rest because I suspect you're baiting, but I'll bite that part at least.

I noticed Zen and Ari were distant lately, but that makes it a lot more certain

>>102192770
You can't fathom that this could be zen's fault so much that you wish it was mouse's fault?

>zen says she's mad that some introvert vtuber chose a small collab with some close friends instead of hanging out in her xbox live lobby for 5 hours while random people they never met scream at each other
>5000 posts speculating about how mouse is evil
so why did that happen again lol

>>102192965
they will use anything to hate on mouse

I think Roxy should lose some weight.

>>102192991
It's just the "Mouse is a bad friend" argument all over again. If it hadn't happened before, it would have been seen as a massive reach now. Unfortunately because it's a repeat occurrence it has SOME legs as a rrat, but I'm still not convinced

>>102192965
zenfags bending reality to make it about how small crippled latina rat is the bad actor, all while many zen's orbiters are distancing themselves from that ticking bomb

>>102193082
Unfortunately this kinda feeds into the "VShojo fans are tribalist and will ditch Zen because she left" thing, but she legit has changed quite a bit over the past month or two so it feels justified

>>102193108
I'd say she changed like 3-4 months ago, maybe even longer.

>>102192880

She used to be, but she's not anymore. When she left, I have no clue, but it was recent, because I remember always seeing her at the top of the user list due to being a close friend to Zen, but now she's completely out of the server, and as I said, not a word between the two of them for over 11 days.

>>102193108
>VShojo fans are tribalist and will ditch Zen because she left
yeah, so? it's not a revelation that sizable part of her viewership were not there just for collabs, it was there for unity collabs because that was her best content
how big it was - time will tell, she dropped that content mill at the start of year

>>102192770
>she has left or been kicked from the Zentreya discord
Can a true Gecko patriot fact check this?

>>102193173
don't call me gecko please

>>102193211
so both Ari and Henya have distanced themselves from Zen

What happened in 2022, why did we lose true Mouse?

>>102193400
Connor

the fact reddit has the most sane take is telling on you people

best cozy wolf wife live with more stellar AYUSS

>>102193436
MHArcadia is obviously an anti and has been trying to post their drivel in every reddit thread about this topic

I want mouse to do a react stream watching this video. It will appeal to like 95% of her audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z66xPP8RatM

>>102193415
I hope that is not the answer because I like Connor and don't want to hate him.

I want mouse to do a react stream watching this video. It will appeal to like 95% of her audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIBxFhxUHc0

>>102193537
Too bad motherfucker.

>>102193577
God I really miss Mouse moans.

>>102193525
It's nice that Moeflavor understands her brand kek

the redditor is still awake? Shit dude, like, you can try to spin whatever tale you want, it will not change reality.

>>102193525
lmao Sinder is still getting merch deals?

>>102193663
are her treatments going well?

>>102193211
>the balance discord
Ha ha I have no idea what that is and how it relates to final fantasy 14 ha ha ha....

Ha....

>>102193663
Will she congratulate Mouse on her new journey when Mouse's leave announcement drops.

Hmm.. a dog boy gacha to compete with the horse girl gacha? There's potential there, just not a lot of it.

>>102193826
As long as they're chasing a bunny girl around the track.

>>102193663
tabs

what would be your reaction if michi leave next?

>>102193848
Oh fuck off and go to bed already

>>102193848
I'd point at you and call you ESL

>>102193729
mouse cant maintain a friendship with anyone so no

>>102193838
Horse racing and gambling is just much more prevalent when compared to show dogs. Is there even a record of great show dogs and their feats?

>>102193848
We are so mind broken right now, we need whatever is going to happen, to happen so we can get past it and stop all the speculation.

The announcement will drop today

>>102193909
i hope it includes a google dockey on mouse

I remembered when Mouse called snow angel jizz
I miss the good old days

>>102193876
Oh I was referring to dog racing but a Westminster Kennel Club type thing where you train dog boys to do the show dog things could be interesting. Pimp up your boys and maybe also have the obstacle course stuff you see with the more active dog breeds

will Henya watch Dooby x Saba collab?

>>102193958
Go advertise elsewhere

Gunrun needs to take responsibility and say something.

>>102193525
>>102193605
>>102193637
uh oh schizo melty

>>102193929
Mouse was talking about a Show Dog game to compete against Horse Girls.

Mouse moan

>>102193881
this, I'd still watch michi though

>>102194008
She is still there when she wants to be.

>>102193881
>right now

>>102194003
Ah. Yeah that's more of the WKC annual dog show thing. Could work especially if you're allowed to do some questionable shit or even selective breeding.

That's what is missing from Umamusume: paying stud fees and putting your horse girl out to pasture to carry on the lineage.

>>102194060
>selective breeding.
>That's what is missing from Umamusume
I agree, horse girls breeding each other is definitely what this game needs.

>>102194061
This is true. I'm inside Kuro and Mochi

Does this model fill you with the masculine urge to give Mouse suckies?

Mouse has been sassy with chat today.
I like it kek.

>>102194100
I'd actually play the game if they add breeding the girls to it

>>102194144
No, but Decora fills me with the masculine urge to shove my face in her crotch (Consensually)

I still think
Eat my ass > Eat my balls

>>102194060
>selective breeding.
>That's what is missing from Umamusume
I agree, horse girls breeding me is definitely what this game needs.

https://x.com/HimeHajime_VSJ/status/1944045068140392605
lmao

Mouse please bring back #mouseylust

Looks like Froot's watching Nagi's Apex stream again today

>>102194234
Love this bitch

>>102194234
>it was a false oof
How dare she? lol

>I don't know if I'll be able to start bloodborne next week because...
Its happening this week, the final oof.

>i don't know if I'll be able to start bloodborne next week because.....
>umm
>what was I saying?
>let's do one more race

>>102194234
SHE'S A TROLL

>>102194234
premature oofulation

>>102194060
You should be able to collect horse semen

>>102194274
>>102194277
she said some stressful shit is happening next week

>>102194241
I missed happy Nagi FPS noises

>>102194274
>>102194277
The final oof is upon us boys. Prepare yourself

>>102194234
It was obviously a joke about her being covered by Kuro in the site pic due to the timing.
I don’t know why everyone freaked out and took it seriously.

>>102194274
>>102194277
so either she's leaving or everyone else is

>>102194274
>>102194277
*nervous laugh*
She was just tired and lost her train of thought right? ha ha... JP ORG INC JEEZUS

>>102194312
>everyone else is
Brother.

>>102194312
>everyone else is
Sister.

https://x.com/PekeIsPeak/status/1944048141264990658?t=2eNYKx0jXxs0rC9vf0CaYw&s=19
/out/

>>102194311
>Hime
>Keeping up to date with things like the VShojo site

Can we please just fast forward to August

I wonder is meds still stop Mouse from jorking it or if she's changed them.

>>102194438
No.

>>102194438
Just go into a medically induced coma

>>102194446
It was never the meds. It was always Connor being hyper controlling.

Guys with mousey so sleepy right now there's nothing bad you can say about her
,she's a pure seiso angel!

>>102194580
This but unironically. She's really the best girl

>>102194580
>pure seiso ange
Mouse was at her lewdest when she was drugged up and sleepy

>>102194234
kek her rent a girlfriend video was funny at how mad shes at the manga

>>102194580
what a perfect time to raid her latest coworkers in nova

>>102194626
STBX Coworker

This puta is barely conscious kek

>>102194580
I already believe this, you don't have to convince me.

>>102194580
Is it bad that i find her the most entertaining when she is very tired or zooted (not that i don't finder entertaining otherwise)

Mouse's laughter at a dirty sound alert joke is the best.

I'm sure Mouse used to regularly get hype trains to a fairly high levels on normal streams.
Why doe she struggle to keep a golden kappa these days.

>>102194822
She used to have more non subathon oilers but they were mostly coomers and left when she changed.

>>102194822
old mouse could entertain her chat

>>102194822
It's quite early. Also her chat is trained to save up for subathon

>>102194822
Im saving for the Apari drop.

>>102194822
Mouse makes more money than anyone in vshojo including the leavers. Who cares about hype trains

>>102194822
mouse's audience is mostly children since QSMP

>>102194921
And yet she had more subs in 2021

>>102194945
Family friendly Mouse was a mistake.

>>102194947
>comparing peak vtuber era after covid to now
hmmmm, myserious

>>102194947
and yet she broke her all time sub record in 2024. Chat saves up for subathon. Also she fluctuates between 11-18k for months at a time. It's pretty normal

Looks like the antis are back. Shame because mouse is being a delight on stream right now

I don't think that chatter earlier was right subathon every year is better than every other year.
The subathons are the highlight of the year to me so losing them to other plans I don't care about as much is sad.

>"WHY IS HER HYPE TRAIN FAILING IT'S OVER"
>open new tab to look
>it's level 15
you niggas are retarded

>>102195049
level 15 for a golden kappa is weak

>>102195044
>i just NEED to watch mouse do nothing on stream or get crowded by leeches or my year is ruined
maybe she should do some subgoals instead

That is a new rrat
https://x.com/teknosatyr/status/1944053736768516580

>>102195070
for the end of an 8 hour stream that began at 4am it's pretty good. maybe you don't watch streams but normally big scam trains happen at the beginning.

>>102195044
It's just really bad timing right now. She was hesitant about it a few months ago and these past few weeks have been really stressful for her not to mention the concert is in october. I'd be happy if she moved subathon to nov-dec though

>>102195044
I'm tired of subathons

>>102195141
I will never tire of getting Mouse all day everyday for a month.

>>102195168
we pretty much do anyway

she’s so fuckin eepy

>>102195141
Month of Mouse is peak

>>102195134
She doesn't need to plan huge things for a subathon, she can just have a quiet one, and stream usually de-stressed her.
Just do plenty of solo stuff both gaming and non gaming and it will be great.

>>102195141
Mouse is one of the few vtubers who has shown they can actually do a fun subathon

>>102195216
LMAOOOOOOOO

>>102195175
Its not the same.

>>102195244
nta but they are 100% right

I liked when Mouse moaned for subs during one of the subathons.

>>102195265
they’re not. mouse is creatively one of the most boring vtubers ive ever seen and the subathon just turns into her camping discord begging for someone to take over for her so she can beg for subs for goals she’ll never do

>>102195214
I don't think it's about planning or events but rather just the sheer amount of time it takes. She has said before that subathons put everything else on hold for weeks. But im in agreement with you, i'd prefer a subathon over nothing

>>102193042
I kinda think she is, nyanners, zen, silver, veibae,
Weird how all of these friends she had no longer talk to her. Say what you want about silver but she literally said when she left that it had been several months since she had even heard from mouse.

>>102195301
She stayed out of the discord call a lot more last time, and it was the best one yet.

>>102195265
>nta
Sure

Thank you for your service Nagi
Shes slowly bringing Froot back

>>102195301
If you are right what does that say about everyone else considering mouse had the best subathons in vshojo.

>>102195327
Personally subathons should be the priority

>>102195335
>she left that it had been several months since she had even heard from mouse.
Which we know to be wrong considering the multiple collabs and messages mouse sent her within that time period. Fuck off anti

>>102195326
If theres anything 4chan has taught me is that the best way to combat any shitposters and antis is with smug anime girls
its powerful and practically unbeatable

>>102195354
it wasnt. it was just as boring as the 2nd but with an even worse guest list of merry’s flop org and saiiren and even less vshojo appearances somehow. the most notable moment from that shitfest was mouse losing her youtube channels and that wasnt even her doing

>>102195301
uh oh zenfag melty. Sorry that zen's subathon was that awful. Even matara's subathon was better

>>102195457
tabs

Zen is liv- oops sorry wrong tab

>>102195387
last time she put off a procedure that nearly killed her

Official and correct subathon ranking
1. Mouseathon 3
2. Mousathon 1
3. Kuro's subathon
4. Mouseathon 2
5. Haruka's subathon (while it lasted)
6. Mel's subathon
7. Matara's subathon/Zen's subathon

Not sure if we can count what michi did as a subathon but if so she it would be 3rd

Nagi is very cute when playing apex

>>102195526
So she shouldn't do that but the last subathon was a special case.
It was her last chance to get number 1

>>102195533
>3. Kuro's subathon
he had a subathon?

>>102195500
I know her title isn't what it's suggesting but it's still an unfortunate coincidence.

>>102195120
aint noone caring about your dumbass tweet

>>102195533
official and correct scamathon ranking
mouse 2 = mouse 3 = haruka
mouse 1
kuro
mel
mata = zen

>>102195533
I can get behind this list.
Mouseathon 2 she was in call waaaaay to much.

>>102195622
I'm sorry but no. Mouse 2nd one was the worst of the 3

Mel's BG3 stream was cute. It's nice to see her finally take it somewhat seriously and start to get better, but maintain her chaotic element. I think she started to get sick of her own incompetence and constant self-sabotage or something.

>>102195365
What does it say about Froot that she has appeared from the dead just to watch someone play Apex, but seemingly not for much else? Is that the trick? Does someone just need to bite the bullet and stream Apex constantly to draw her out of her shell?

>>102195608
I keep a tab open with a search for ironmouse on x formally known as twitter and saw that tweet.
But sure you can believe that I don't really care.

>>102195653
its a ranking of how much people scammed their communities so mouse 2 is equal to mouse 3 because shes never had any intention of doing the subgoals

>>102195533
Pretty accurate. Subathons 1 and 3 for mouse are interchangeable for me

Zen tts update today

>>102195664
Mel tries her best but is still a goober. It's still cool to see her get better at games.

>>102195664
I need to catch up on some of those vods

>>102195731
Real time TTS is going to be crazy.

>>102195688
Nagi already does. As always, JP are carrying this org

>>102195599
yes, the same time he did the goofy gta rp and was on the minecraft server with henya who was taking a break and mouse. it was a reward based like zen’s rather than time based because of his office situation.

>>102194274
>>102194277
That doesn't mean shit. Gura started Oblivion days beforee she left lmaooo

>>102195533
7. Momoversary
8. Leechathon
they are bottom, but at least Mata's had some original good content like momo's presenting who they think she should ban

>>102195365
once again it took vshojo jp to keep this house together. ty loutlot

>>102195335
>Say what you want about silver but she literally said when she left that it had been several months since she had even heard from mouse.
Which everyone who actually watched streams knew was bullshit. But also Mouse was busy as shit with recording for a concert and trying to move and having a mental breakdown over it because her parents spent several months getting jerked around by contractors. I also believe it was during that time frame Iron Deficiency Mouse became a thing and we started hearing a 9pm alarm for her heart medication.
But oh no, mean trannies were saying things to Silver.. The same ones that were saying shit to Mouse because she made this statement and got herself on that list after Silver did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHLDeOCHIpk
I don't recall Silver ever throwing herself under a bus for Mouse. Instead she just shit on her on the way out because she didn't have the same agency tag in her profile anymore and wanted to spark drama. You might also recall Mouse tanking the brunt of the Nux shitstorm by being the one that was involved to actually go live and address it. To this day she's still the one that gets treated as the main perpetrator of it.. I literally saw a tweet from someone replying to a Miku account posting about her cosplay reference that shit just today.

Mei already ruining Zen's stream

>>102196003
bro I don't know if you noticed, but you gotta shitpost on /big/ now

>>102196041
nta but + through michi, ama, and haruka because she can maintain a friendship

>>102195964
I like how everyone forget that mouse originally intended to play HL and got attacked on twitter for it

>>102196041
Nah, I'm going to stay here

>>102196074
She’s not a + until she renews that license

>>102196003
zentrewho?

>>102195422
>>102195964
I know people love to leave out part of the full quote to force narratives but since you both want to be cunts, friendly reminder that the full quote involves Silver saying that Mouse did contact her but only for content reasons. The complaint was that Mouse never contacted her for casual friendly reasons. Which, while that's something only Mouse or Silver can prove, is not something that's unlikely. Especially since Mouse herself has talked at length about how she often ghosts people for months at a time.

>>102195599
Pre-debut Michi had her first appearance in Kuro’s subathon.

>>102195909
>the house together
lmao you're desperate

i notice amalee took out the “vshojo” out of her name
is she quitting too? lmao vshoujoe is dyin

>>102196077
Are you gonna be the new wolf wife faggot?

>>102196136
you guys are weird, I have nothing against my colleagues but for god's sake I do not interact with them outside work

>>102196136
is this supposed to be a big deal?

i do not like ironmouse

>>102196158
she never had it

More people will leave
More people will never talk to Mouse again
Mousefags will keep saying Mouse is the victim every time
And thic cycle will continue untill Mouse is the only one left in Vshojo

i do not like silvervale

>>102196196
Nope, but people have been making at a big deal for more than two years now. Some just can't get over it.

>>102196158
everybody is out, formally in a couple of months I guess

>>102196158
oh no oh no no no vshokeks your response?

>>102196195
That's the point. They stopped being friends after some time and anons just can't accept that and continue to throw accusations years after the fact.

>>102196195
does one of your coworkers pretend to be super close and besties with everyone just to ignore any requests to hangout or pretend they dont exist when it doesn’t suit them?

Holy shit, if Zen does real time tts I'll start watching her again..even though Henya hates her.

>>102196268
that's the thing, who knows and who cares

>>102196003
She's just supporting her friend in chat. I don't get it

>>102196285
tabs

>>102196268
>ignore any requests to hangout
kek silver wasn't requesting that

>>102195734
I imagine it's akin to what watching an infant growing up feels like, lol

>>102196305
shameless leech

It only took a couple of weeks after Geega's soft retirement for Cypress to be dissolved entirely. That seems like a pretty bad omen of Vshojo's future.

>>102196285
buy an ad

>>102196303
if they dont then who cares about your wagie cage job because its not the same
>>102196319
she was part of the group mouse pretends doesnt exist when it doesnt suit them

>>102196327
That's an interesting way to put it kek.

Is SquChan on Zen's or Mouse's side?

Geckos are the new Silverfags

>>102196387
zen's

>>102196398
I would take that trade

>>102196448
whofags aren't going anywhere, sadly

>>102196306
f u. Zen said she's waiting for haruka, so this is officially a collab with vshojo member

haruka call soon

>>102196041
Welp, you're a fag

>>102196491
PLUS RENEWED

I heard Henya on Zen's stream... she's so back /in/

I think the real test to see whether or not its over for Henya and Zen is if Zen removes Henya's tangia screaming

Is Zen Haruka's plus or is Haruka Zen's plus?

>>102195688
Just like Geega would have stayed if everyone played GTA RP, Froot will return if everyone starts streaming Apex.

>>102196579
nagi froot ama when

>>102196513
Mei is ruining the stream.

Zen looks to be in a lot better mood since she doesn't have to deal with mouse shit anymore.

>>102196345
>>102196484
kek schizo you still whining like a little bitch

This is the type of simple happiness I aspire to return to. On look at melly belly and my day is made. I envy this jp bro

i never catch the beginning of Zen's streams but goddamn is her chat tts annoying as fuck

>>102195533
Remember how all of Kuro's highest goals that didn't get met involved him flesh streaming, lol.

>>102196633
It gets better after her stalling section is over but yeah, it's at it's worst when she first starts.

>>102196633
yep just look how annoying zenfags get, far worse than keyfags or momos, but not as bad as silverfags

>>102196633
Her and Michi's are the worst, that why I never watch both

>>102196484
We know you'll still be squatting here, sinderwhofag.

>>102196562
People should start spamming it to see how Zen reacts.

>>102196697
>>102196673
>>102196633
we get it you can stop replying to your own post now

>>102196717
are you like 10? why are you like this?

Holy shit so many tts about Henya on Zen's stream..if they had a falling this must really suck for her

>>102196633
Yeah if you watch her I recommend skipping the first 45 mins
She never sets up her voice shit until she appears on the screen, something I never got on why she did that after the 20 mins of intro music

>>102196641
Kuro gets more views fleshstreaming than vtubing. The higher goals didn’t get met because they were too high for him (he assumed this would be the case, but VShojo staff suggested him to put the goals that high) and he wasn’t doing a countdown style subathon.

>>102196768
I practically can't watch Zen live, I need to watch the VoD and skim the preview for when she gets in VC or plays a video. Makes it hard to find any annoucnements she makes though

>>102196768
Do you know how much Zen makes from TTS alone?

>>102196691
kek mindbroken

>>102196768
mute charades zen is the best part of every zen stream

Haruka not coming, because she's engaging in lesbian sex with Henya

>>102196918
Physical comedy is actually its highest form. There's a reason it's the oldest and more universial kind of entertainment. Even a lot of animals can appreciate it.

>>102195533
what about froots?

>>102197095
who is that?

Haruka is in VC. You can unmute now.

thank god this bit can end now

My god, it's actually real time STTTS.

>leaves vshojo
>tts latency improves
kek

why haruka don't stream and only appear on others streams

>Haruka is still holding on to her 2080 card
She's just like me.

>>102197095
Froot did hers arguably the right way for most streamers: clock builds with subs, but clock only goes down whens he's actively on stream. That way she can take breaks and sleep and end the stream. It worked.

Also Froot kyoot forever.

>>102196706
like the pyrocucks would ever get out of their chair except to do the bidding of the hellbitch.

>>102197297
HOLY F DUDE

>>102197334
I have a 2060...don't look at me.
At least I don't have to run VTube Studio and OBS at the same time

>>102197324
It's legit a dream come true. All the problems of Zen's TTS delays are gone. She can actually hold natural conversations now.

what does /big/ think of this?

So who did this Vedal or Baffler?

Zen gonna steal Vedal from Filian and Anny... yes or no ?

>>102197364
>Help from Vedal
It means it's AI driven. The AI is likely interpreting what she's going to say as the sentence is coming in and fills in the blanks. Which is both impressive and terrifying. What if it interprets something... really weird?

>>102197361
It's time to upgrade, anon. I'm going to do it but I'm going to be lazy for once and buy a prebuilt during black friday.

>>102197416
retard, it's just really fast and does the transcription during her speach.

>ok when
muh dick

>>102197416
yeah, most likely it works like neuro/evil ai tts where the delay is as minimal as currently possible
turtle femboy, I kneel

>>102197413
both of them collabed on fixing the program

>fuck you
>okay when
sleepless haruka is horny, take note

>>102197413
Baffler with help with Vedal. Baffler has apparently been working on this for a long time.

>>102197413
Baffler with help from vedal

>>102197414
This is what Vedal enjoys doing. He's a tech nerd. I don't think he really cares about being a big streamer. His whole thing is showing off his Neuro network technology and I think is counting down the days when he trusts it enough to run on its own and he never has to appear on stream again.

Or, far more likely, develops it enough that Nvidia or someone buys it from him and he never has to stream again

Gunrun just pull the mercy bullet on the moose

>>102197472
>can I buy you shit for you setup
>fuck you
she's got max-level resistance to streaming

>Hey (Haruka) do you wanna play Peak? Any time, whenever you're available
Its that easy for Zen to set up a collab. Why would Mouse ghost her repeatedly when thats how simple her terms are?

Seamless voice switching too, nice.

>>102197453
i don't think nvidia are interested in buying python glue for ai libraries

>>102197500
>hey mouse lets play armored core coop soon
>ok how about next week?
>ok sounds great
>never happens

>>102197523
They don't have to like the whole thing. Just parts of it and the rest gets junked. That's how tech companies do.

OH! I know what Zen's talking about. The voice cracking is gone too.

>>102197449
>>102197451
Vedal probably told him what he uses for Neuro to translate speech into whatever AI he uses

>>102197540
He doesn't really have any magic sauce that Nvidia can't build themselves if they wanted to.

>Zen karaoke is now a possibility
What a timeline we live in.

I hope Zen chooses the tranny voice permanently. It really suits 'her'

why didn't zen ask vedal to fix her tts like two years ago when they first collabed

>>102197552
Again, this is what tech companies do. Why spend your own time developing some shit that puts you behind competitors when you can just buy someone else's work and either catch up or surge ahead because you got it first?

>>102197589
why makes you think she asked for help? she could have been offered help

>>102197453
>counting down the days when he trusts it enough to run on its own and he never has to appear on stream again
he's currently preparing the twins irl concert (with holograms, original tracks, etc) where both of them will do everything by themselves (reacting to the crowd, for example) and he will not do anything

>leave Vshojo
>stream quality improves 20x
Get absolutely fucking rekt, ironcunt

>>102197615
i am questioning why she never asked when it seems like a basic thing for a tts vtuber to talk to another tts vtuber about

>Leaves Vshojo
>Debuts the biggest upgrade since switching off of the notepad
This fixes her biggest problem; killing the momentum of every collab

Zen's Haruka name fuck ups are now gone. Whenever Zen gets Haru's name wrong it will now be on purpose.

>>102197566
Hmmm not really
It'll still be in that monotone voice

>>102197665
>no more tts fuck ups
A blessing and a curse

>>102197649
I mean that was like one collab, also Vedal offered himself, Zen didn’t ask

>>102197643
>>102197655
>>102197665
god damn. i thought it would be at least till either the mythic tweet or the new supps code before she would blow us away.

>>102197643
The only way to improve a Zen stream is to close the tab and open a different stream.

>>102197677
>he doesnt know

>>102197713
How about you fucking kill yourself, you absolutely cunt?

>>102197677
I'm guessing she's talking about using the Zencaloid.

>>102197702
for the third time i am wondering why zen did not ask because that seems like a really basic thing one would ask about like literally the first thing two streamers with the same exact gimmick hanging out and she never bothered to ask "hey how do you tts faster than me"

>>102197728
what to use whatever AI neuro uses to sing or her Vocaloid thing for her covers

i see the angry child is back

Man, Zen doesn't even have to type anything into her TTS to make sure it's correct now.

>>102197757
Ironmouse wouldn’t greenlight the upgrade, so Zen left

This sucks because the TTS fuckups gave her personality and made for the majority of the comedy of her streams
Without it, you might as well just be watching Siri stream

>>102197781
she literally said baffler worked on it while she was in vshojo

>>102197809
tts fuckups still there
she fucked up her own name

he could btfo everyone if he uses his real voice, he could be bigger than asmon

>>102197801
The cunt knew Zen would surpass her immediately if she wasn't held back by technology.

In Mouse's hubris, she has destroyed Vshojo. Her ego knows no bounds.

>>102197757
idk some people consider rude to ask that just by meeting each other, it would seem as if Zen ultimate goal was that, when it was not. Zen wanted just a fun collab with the ai gimmick, vedal was the one to tell her "hey, can i touch that"
also not like zen would know what to touch without giving her program

>>102197846
In the vtuber space the biggest thing holding her back is the penis.

>>102197809
What we're losing in "I'm a good whore" fuck ups we're gaining in actual natural conversations. Also, Zen is still dumb as fuck as we're now seeing so fuck ups will still come. Just not like they used to.

>>102197831
>while she was in vshojo
Baffler has never worked for Vshojo. He's always been just Zen's software dev. Which, frankly, I thought was retarded. If I was Gun I would've tried to work something out to get Zen's software out into the public under the Vshojo name. That way he could've cornered the market on mobile streaming setups and cutting edge 3D streaming software.

>>102197846
Just when you think mouse couldn't be any more vindictive

>>102197846
>surpass her immediately
>can't even beat the whoreca with a new tech buff
kek

>>102197914
Zen wanted her own separate team to support her endeavors. An intelligent and prudent decision for her career. Unlike Ironmouse, who wanted her own separate team to support her endeavors. A selfish and completely destructive decision for her career.

>>102197955
Lily > Mouse

Its gonna be like this all day isnt it
I'll see you guys when Henya goes live

>>102197914
zen wouldn't sell anyway

>>102198001
Are we measuring whoreness or materialism or both ?

Moose go live and play the horse game.

>>102198034
Numbers, business skill, legacy, connections, reach and pull in the community, Lily blows Mouse out of the water in every aspect.

>>102198016
>all day
Buddy, we ain't that lucky, this is the status quo now.

>>102198045
shes about to stream right now (to zen)

>>102198045
>Haruka is going to screen share to Zen and play the horse game
Close enough, I'll take it.

>>102198069
so, both it is then.

>>102198045
She hasn't streamed in almost 2 months...

>>102198016
you could always go to the same place that all the good posters went to

I just want to know why Henya, Mouse, and Ari all three have dropped Zen.
Zen has to have done something for that to make sense.

>>102197903
should start transitioning would be as popular as clio

>>102198131
It's pretty obvious desu,

Zen and Mouse had a falling out (for some reason), and Ari and Henya just sided with Mouse

>>102197749
aww someone big mad

HOLY SHIT SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY NONE OF YOU KNOW ANYTHING AND IT'S BEEN LIKE A FUCKING WEEK OF ARGUING BASED ON LITERALLY NOTHING BUT A TWITTER UNFOLLOW
fuck's sake

>>102198069
>Numbers, business skill, legacy, connections, reach and pull in the community
lol I mostly agree with every single one of them except the legacy. Mouse's legacy is unbeatable at this point, Lily is only a businesswoman.
Her legacy is pushing Gamersupps to release as much garbage as possible, that's it. Even the "pull" in the community is dubious, the only pull she has as, again, through Gamersupps.

>>102198131
Ari and Mei had a falling out. That's probably related.

>>102198202
shut up

>>102198131
Mouse didn't like that Zen stepped out of her control. Now she's threatening Ari and Henya.

>>102198131
zen pledged allegiance to isis. mouse stood up for herself as a patriotic american and told zen they are bad and henya and ari agreed with mouse.

>>102198131
Unironically, Ari ruined everything.
Ari much like Zen loves collabs, Ari doesn't have a laggy STTS, Ari has been grabbing Zen's friends and getting close to them (like Froggy).
Once Mouse and Ari got in contact, Ari well full ham into being around Mouse, and then later Henya. They would normally invite Zen, but later realize that they could drop the dead weight since Zen was only slowly the collabs.

>>102198213
That smut of Zen fucking Ari's ass is now unfortunate in retrospect

>>102198131
Ehh something happened behind the scenes
my rrat is that Zen said something during a manic episode and mouse just stood up for herself(or for the 3 of them)
hence that tweet from like a month ago
But thats just a rrat
Like no body knows shit besides them
All we have is that tweet and what Zen said on that stream a while ago
everything else is just rrats and crack pipes as sources

>>102198217
Yes, that's what that anon was saying.

>>102198202
Especially because we probably won't ever know anything. Swear to god these people are going to become the WHY DID JON LEAVE GAMEGRUMPS fuckheads who speculated about that for a full fucking decade when he was on the show for less than a year

>>102198203
>the only pull she has as, again, through Gamersupps.
>the only pull she has is the company that she essentially performed a hostile take over on from JSchlatt
Some pretty serious pull.

>>102198203
Gamersupps is Schlatt’s baby. History won’t remember the Whorca’s involvement.

>>102198109
it's where you came from, i'm never going there.

Zen's subtitle text no longer being comic sans feels weird. Like, it's actually the weirdest part of this now.

Moose would rater stream on Zen's stream then do so on her own account...

>>102198319
she should get fansub fonts

>>102198319
Vshojo imposed comic sans on her to limit her.

>>102198250
except Henya dropped her a while ago and Ari more recently

>>102198309
Holy cope batman

>>102198346
I was just thinking that kek. Like the classic yellow font.

At this point why doesn't she just use voice changer..... ?

>>102198367
Henya didn't drop Zen.

>>102198319
She can change the font

>>102198416
it's a soft drop, but still a drop

>>102198203
If the caveat
>In the community
means the vtuber community then that is possible she has more connections, pull, and reach then Mouse. Overall though? Mouse dominates her in every category

>>102198414
Voice changer can be unchanged.

>>102198416
Henya has outright ignored Zen’s leaving while replying to everyone else’s

>>102198455
>Mouse dominates her in every category
even in the bedroom?

>>102198414
kinda what this anon said for safety reasons >>102198456
Also according to Zen the has a very distinct way of speaking(stutters) and Texan accent
so take that as you will

>>102198455
Mouse dominates nothing. Your rat is dead in the water.

>>102198414
you would recognize it's mexican man

>>102198414
Because a voice changer would still require you to have the subtle mannerisms that female voices have.

>>102198414
Part of the brand, she's the TTS vtuber. Doesn't matter what she's actually is, Zen IS the TTS vtuber. You don't mess with the Coronel's recipe baby.

>>102198496
as someone who has sampled both
one is submissive and the other one pegs you

>>102198533
Clearly Mouse is the sub. I just can't imagine Mouse dominating in the bedroom.

>>102198522
>Coronel
Japan plz

I'll just say it, someone has to. We haven't lost anyone good since Nyanners. There, are you happy?

>>102198522
>Coronel's
Colonel.

>>102198414
you know why

>>102192057
kson is a lesbian

I dont want to be an asshole but the reason Haruka barely streams is because Canada pays for her for having a mental disability?

>>102198367
Far as I know, their last interaction goes along with the ER collab. At that point, Henya was doing more solo and she didn't join much unless it was something big like REPO or the WOW one
Again, by this point Ari was sliding also in Henya's life and slowly replacing the "Zen slot".

>>102198578
Zen and Nyan are the only ones that are worth missing.

froot posted on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/DMBALF-Ik4K/?igsh=aXZkOHNqdnRqeG43

>>102198649
Cute

>>102198578
Every single loss has been huge talent that are objectively good streamers.

>>102198649
froot is cute...too bad she's a horrible human being

>>102198649
I wish MHA would stop holding her hostage.

>>102198578
Every loss is an L of some form Vei, Silver and Geega were just lowercase

>>102198649
SHE’S COMING HOME!!!

>>102198649
Still as goth as ever I see.

>>102198666
not really. matara and geega are pretty average, for example. The rest are basically mentally ill.

>>102198649
She's so adorable!

But we really need to fix her taste...

>>102198666
Matara “Vacay Every Day” Kan is a good streamer? Are you sure about that?

>>102198665
>Froot loves Midoriya
>Katie loves Bakugo
I've figured out what happened between them. Froot shipped Deku and Ochaco, but Katie ships Deku and Bakugo. Things got heated between them as a result and they are no longer friends.

>>102198649
>The second recommended pic is the one of her and Katie

>>102193108
>she

>>102198742
Shout out to her stating recently that she's been working too hard and had burned herself out

>>102198752
You'll note she has not removed anything related to Katie from HER side of things.

>>102198746
As a shipper I can confirm this is a realistic scenario and >we have to pick sides now.

>>102198213
Mei said it was mostly Ari ghosting that ended that friendship, not surprisingly Froggy stayed friends with the two but slowly also stopped collabing with Mei before her break. Similar to what Mouse did. Sounds schizo, but I think Ari has been slowly selecting people she likes and making others disappear from those groups by likely being the voice that says “let’s have a collab with these people only”. We had cases like Sinder or the MSM stuff where we realize that this behavior isn’t uncommon in the Vtuber world. Ever since Ari got into contact with Zen’s group, she dropped everyone from Haruka’s group.

I am in desperate need of a frootjob right now

we're so back

>>102196136
Also even if we don't take silver's word for it, literally everyone who was in Mouses private circle has completely stopped talking to her with the exception of monke.
Nyanners and her were allegedly super close but since leaving vshojo nyanners has interacted with mouse like 2 times

>>102198649
Show us your holes Froot

>>102198828
>Mei said
Where. Source it.

>>102198828
If we got Ari in the divorce and she’s claimed Froggy, does this mean we’ll get Froggy, too?

>>102198816
twitch worships troons like sacred cows, there is absolutely no way she would delete the kat picture to make Vshojo look like chuds.

who the fuck is Ari

>>102198828
I think Froggy is just busy with her Move. Mei was on her streams a few times, but I do agree with your point. It might be worth looking into. Makes you wonder if Ari has been planting seeds of doubt about people behind the scenes. After all the issues with Zen and Mouse only happened after Ari started to hangout with her offline.

while you guys were arguing this dumbass point i was tittering at this post

anyway new thread
>>102198929
>>102198929
>>102198929

>>102198941
Arielle, frequent Mouse +

>>102198918
correcting that anon mei only said she was sad someone was ghosting her and some detective autist saw that mei unfollowed Ari.

>>102198564
She has it in her

>>102198918
It has been posted multiple times that she was feeling bad because a friend had been ghosting her. Not surprisingly Ari and Mei were no longer following each other, Ari didn’t even join lobbies where Mei was at. That’s why she slowly dropped Zen and dragged Mouse and Henya to it, because Zen wasn’t bulging on this, Zen was still collabing with Mei

>>102199022
Unless there's a direct quote from either party stating the reason, I'm not accepting shit from schizos.

>>102199055
Suit yourself, if Ari starts dropping Bluto and Heavenly friends because she’s now part of Sykkuno and Ellum groups, I will know my suspicion was true

>>102199145
Go ahead. Be devastatingly invested in others relationships instead of forming your own. It's better that way.

>>102195335
I blame conur that fag was always a cynical businessman jumping on the whole Vtuber trend despite not enjoying Vtuber content himself. Treat other creators as tools to farm content rather than friends is exactly the type of advice he would give

>>102197416
no it's just a stt feeding into a tts, in streamed way
that means the nanosecond the stt parses the first word, it gets sent to the tts which then produces the sound immediately

>>102198564
Mouse has had to learn to be a dom for monke

>>102197552
he has a secret sauce finetuning dataset and prompt that makes a funny (arguable nowadays) chatbot, and knows to curb the coherence of the model to make it funnier
nvidia isn't interested in the application level though
>>102197757
Maybe zen's the kind of person to take software at face value and not tinker with the settings? Alternatively she might have had the misconception that Neuro had a better latency because she has no human input.

Whatever it is, we now know that Vedal is more deserving of the V than Vshojo, the self proclaimed Vtuber Tech agency.

>>102193436
Streamers are not exactly known to be mature kek "b-but not everyone is terminally online to care about stupid shit like this" yes, perhaps for people with a normal job this feels silly but you know who IS terminally online? Mousey, Zen and pretty much any other streamer their job is being online and networking with people through discords, twitter and whatever else that's where they spend most of their time and they're aware audience will take note of everything they do.

>>102193848
after all the vshojo shilling she done?

>>102199921
Zen shilled Vshojo for a long time.

>>102194061
Kuro can't make it as an indie

>>102195847
she already announced her grad at that point