Thread 102259348

2 Weeks to Scamathon Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.

Keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

Image source: https://x.com/MichiMochievee/status/1944682114475270193

VShojo is:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak

Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo

Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussion

Previous Thread: >>102244586

Milkers

Milkers, Japan.

I miss lewd waifu Mouse

i do not like ironmouse

I do like Michi

Milkers, Heaven.

i do not like silverwhale

>>102259373
She's so cute, love Mel

Milkers, Hell.

>>102259456
tall oak tree

>>102259484
I love Mouse in swimwear.

Milkers, mature.

>>102259484
That smile is cute as heck

>>102259499
please do make yourself taller

>>102259646
lurk for a thousand years faggot

>>102259657
why so mad, schizo?

Hotadog, Naggers, Peak LIVE go watch

>>102259752
Hestia soon for full NOVAlap?

>>102259764
The classic

>>102259764
Hestia has got a day job

>>102259828
Is Hestia an OL? If so, hot.

Ironmouse fansly when

Milkers, surprise.

Milkers, tasty

I think Hestia should have debuted with a brand new iron vertex rigged model back when VShojo still had the money to afford it.

Who will be the first Vshojo member to directly and publicly call out Zentreya?

is there any good browser extensions for live captions that work on firefox? I remember there was one being mentioned before but can't remember the name

>>102260181
Nobody because no one cares anymore

>>102260181
Ironmouse, and it will blow up in her face spectacularly. I cannot wait for her very public downfall.

>>102260253
good morning silvercuck, ready for another day of samefagging?

>>102260181
I don't think anyone will. Even the densest people will eventually pick up that Zen had a falling out with Henya when she never raids or mentions her again though.

>>102260305
I don't know, mousefag. Are you ready to admit she's a terrible person, or will you need to see yet another friendship be destroyed by her actions, or should I say inaction?

>>102260378
It’s not Mouse responsibility to deal with other people’s mental health issues.
She has her own problems.

>>102260378
Your work ethic is impressive if nothing else. Too bad you don't use it for something useful.

Interesting

>>102259499
I think silverwhale is handled by a tall spruce tree with a really thick branch ;)

>>102260533
Another example to add to the pile of Zen being absolutely selfless and kind. If Vshojo isn't up to Zen's standards, that should tell you everything you need to know about the people that stayed in the agency.

>>102260533
it's good to see confirmation that auditions at least did go through to high levels with small vtubers

>>102260181
no one because they don't want to drag henya and/or mouse and/or ari into drama
the person most likely to call out zentreya about this is zentreya

>>102260575
You became a caricature. Tone it down a notch.

>>102260666
You're denying reality.

>>102260575
It just looks like lip service to me.

>>102260575
Zen fell out with Henya, HENYA anon.
Something is not right.

>>102260738
Stop falling for his bait.

>>102260533
I guess I'll watch a couple of her streams

>>102260685
Not to go back and forth with you just an amicable remark.

>>102260533
She confused Vshojo auditions with zen tweet I presume. She an Aussie giantess vtuber.

>>102260807
>She's an Aussie giantess vtuber.
I can see why she got past the first round.

>>102260766
check zen's twitch follows then

>>102260738
The only way I see this happening is if turns out Zen is a dude and Henya felt betrayed once she found out.

>>102260828
>Zen actually unfollowed Henya
Henya chose her side, and she chose wrong.

>>102260843
this

>Numi subathon with Michi participation
>Michi subathon not long after
I'm FEASTING

>>102260843
>Zen-onee turns out to be Zen-onii
The betrayal.

People kept numberfagging about Vsj Japan, but it just took time for them to grow

I'm on team sonch in the vshojo civil war

Vshojo should have been like a reality tv show. Each month a member gets voted out until only one remains.

>>102260987
According to some freaks Henya is a TERF, so I guess it would make sense. :^)

>>102261137
plot twit hime would be the last one standing, just like that autist at the end of cube

>>102260533
zen ruined vshojo and is a cunt in all of this

>>102260843
This is absolutely what happened.
>Zen felt like he's close enough to Henya to reveal his true identity
>Henya felt disgusted and betrayed, maybe even said something without thinking in the heat of the moment
>Zen got upset and retaliated
>Mouse choose Henya's side, called Zen names
>Zen left and burned the bridges

Why does Mouse have to hate her nsfw now.

>>102261418
Your cognitive abilities must be extremely low if that's what you consider to be likely.
I'm sorry, life must be hard.

>>102260181
There is no current Vshojo member who would do something like that. You’re going to be kept in the dark unless Zen goes on another menhera meltdown and alludes to what happened.

I love how everyone here blames Zen or Mouse for ruining Vshojo when Haruka and Froot exist.

>>102261556
I don't blame anyone, it's just those 3 schizos arguing with each other

>>102261556
Actually it was Gunrun

>>102260828
She is so fucking petty, it's actually pathetic

>>102260305
>>102260545
uh oh silverschizo cuck melty

>>102261556
they autism

>>102261556
If a company implodes because 2 streamers take an extended hiatus, it didn't deserve to exist in the first place.

I need someone to watch when mouse, henya, michi, connor and my nigga Pete aren't on. I haven't tried the nova girls since i don't know the language but I'm willing to try, Which one would be best for me? Also what can i use for live translation?

>>102261908
Anny invented going on hiatus

>>102262018
Anny invented inventing.

>>102262002
Personally I like Peke a lot but they all have something strong going on for them.
Also pic related

>>102262002
Hestia id the most accessible, she talks in english very often
Just avoid the GTA streams

>>102262064
>>102262352
Thanks will check them out

Did Kuro say when he will be back streaming?

Mouse please bring back #mouseylust

>>102262821
I think hes still moving

>>102262002
Peke is the most fun and Nagi is cute. Hotaru is great if you don’t mind story heavy games in Japanese. Based on who you watch, there’s also Kuro.

day ruined btw
doubly so as its OSRS

>>102249254
>>102249303
Mel also has way better people skills and underlying maturity than she lets on. I've noticed that when she's not surrounded by more conventionally "competent" people like Haruka, whose presence can afford Mel the luxury of goofing off, Mel almost by default steps up to become the coordinator of whatever activity she's doing and the motive force behind the conversation in which she's participating. It's why I gave her the stats and traits I did for her D&D character sheet a couple threads ago.

>>102260828
>it's actually real
I was sad when Zen had a falling out with Mouse, but I can see how it could happen. But I don't know how she managed to ruin her relationship with henya badly enough to want to unfollow her. She's still following her on Twitter though, whereas she went as far as to block Mouse. I think whatever happened Henya sided with Mouse which hurt Zen. Michi either didn't take sides, or didn't think whatever happened was bad enough to choose one side or the other.

Michi is afraid of Mouse

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

>>102262839
Sorry we lost gooner Mouse.
I hate it too

I wonder how Zen will make the henya 7TV emotes and soundalerts disappear with no one noticing?

>>102263587
great idea anon, does she stream today?

>>102263587
We call that getting Dunkaccino'd.

>>102263504
I'm telling you this shit is probably over the most high school like retarded shit ever
Henya likes to schedule collabs shes never been the type to get kidnapped for stuff
She had a collab planned with mouse and Ari the day, Zen probably asked them for a collab on that day maybe the 1-2 days before and they both said no we are busy
Later that night Zen saw them paying games together
Thats it
Zen probably confronted them and out of the two Mouse stood her ground hence the block and shit

>Zen blocked mouse and connor on xitter and unfollowed them on twitch
>Zen unfollowed Henya on twitch
>Zen unfollowed Gunrun on xitter and twitch
None of the other leavers did that. Not even the indie bitches trio.

>>102263607
I wonder if she's Zenheraing out after officially ending things with Henya and is taking a day off to mentally recover?

>>102263658
God hates Zen's streams

>>102263655
the Connor thing wasnt that because of the apex stuff way back

>>102263658
working on the google dockey drop on mega cunt mouse

>>102263655
This will keep happening because she’s going to keep gathering friends and as soon as they don’t drop everything for her she will throw a tantrum.

>>102263655
One again, Gunrun did something crazy.
That's why Zen cut ties, Mouse stayed but is devastated, and Connor knows and quietly blocked him.
Probably Zen wanted to take Henya away too, but she didn't want to, and chose to stay with Mouse.
The rest don't even know what happened

ok but how the fuck did edo tensei Madara with the Rinnegan AND Hashirama cells that gave him access to wood style still manage to lose to edo tensei Hashirama?

>>102263658
tuesday it is then

>>102263655
Zen did this to Henya while she was mourning her sibling death. Let that sink in.

>>102263742
Hashirama was the goat man

>>102263736
Mouse’s thing is still something that is going to happen. Because she keeps saying she can’t talk about it yet but will as soon as she can.

>>102261556
Nobody but /pol/tards or Armch1r gives a shit about that.

It all went down hill after Mouse was told to stop being a degenerate.

>>102263773
Yes
Gunrun has legal protection, but once lawyers come up with a revised reason as to why he's/out/ she'll tell us.

>>102263814
2022 was the last good year of mouse

>>102263736
Wait, Connor blocked Gunrun?

>>102263771
Who?

What keeps Haruka from streaming? Don't just say autism...what specifically about her autism keeps her from going live?

>>102260766
she said a while back she was depressed, and like she felt like she didn't deserve to be Haruka
i don't know if that's still the case

>>102264026
My bad meant to reply to
>>102264014

>>102264014
Mouse has her hostage so she doesn't split viewers

>>102264014
She talked about it on stream. Go watch it or have someone else summarize.

>>102264014
>>102264026
We're going to see Haruka less and less now that zen is out. She used to hang out in vc with the +'s. Unless she decides to stick around current vshojo members vc

>>102264014
Good old tysm

>>102263655
>Zen unfollowed Henya on twitch
lmao, she was still following her last time I checked.
That pretty much settles it for me then. You can hate Mouse all you want but having beef with Henya pretty much brands you as an undesirable, there's no coming back from that.

>>102264014
depresso + autism
just like Miss Apricot

SHA LA LA LA

What if Zen threatened to leak all Mouse's retcons Mouse stood up for herself, so Mouse is now waiting to talk about it once Zen decides to be petty and leak it.

>>102264099
If you want to see Haruka more she's on KloeKrocs channel a lot. Surprisingly Meicha is on her stream a lot as well. Apparently they have a little friend group.

>>102264014
I think her reasons was here covid plus ultra and moving? but even henya has gotten somewhat better with her bad covid, so i reckon haruka has to have been getting better as well, and move is long done.

For a second I thought she posted...

>>102264195
I just checked, its true she's not following Henya or Mouse on twitch.

>>102264280
mei is suprisingly connected with everyone but ari i wonder what happened with that still.

>>102264342
>>102264195
I'm telling you it's this and it lines up with that mouse tweet about standing up for herself >>102263642

When was the last interaction between zen and Henya on stream and on social media?

>>102264342
Still follows Nux and Arcadum though.

>>102264362
Nah GEEGA wouldn't have answered that tweet if ti was

>>102264357
There is 100% a connection with that and it what's going on with Zen.

>>102264377
and still follows vshojo

shit is so bad that the schizophrenic mousefag false flagging as a mouse anti making the most retarded bait threads stopped doing so

>>102263642
this seems like the most likely

>>102264377
So Zen think Mouse and Henya are worse than these two.

>>102264376
on stream was the Wow stream with Mata and Heavenly. two months ago

>>102262839
Speaking of #mouseylust, there's a new Underworld Goddess koikatsu card out there behind a patreon paywall however they said they will release it for free in a couple months.
https://x.com/Rox07054557/status/1944756195790590352
https://www.patreon.com/posts/134102137

>>102264457
I'm tired of KK and AI lewds of Mouse.
I want some real high quality not weird lewd art.

>>102264435
>Mata and Zen tricked her into playing WoW
That's an acceptable reason to end friendships.

>>102263642
I think it wasn't that tiny but related, but it was actually about Zen trying to call out Ari on her blatant leeching. Mouse and Henya like Ari so they got mad at Zen.

>>102264485
Then commission some, you fucking whiner.

>>102264545
idiot tourist

>>102264545
I feel like she'd also unfollow Ari if that was the case.

>>102264545
>Zen trying to call out Ari on her blatant leeching
as opposed to the subtle leeching all of zen's orbiters do

>>102264607
They're still small so it's ok

>>102264602
Ari left Zen's discord server.

>>102264607
which zen orbiters are good and honest

>>102264662
Heavenly...I have to believe

>>102264662
Heavenly, Mei, Froggy.

Let me interrupt whatever the fuck is going on here and lust over Pekes mama
GOOD LORD
https://x.com/rik0ring/status/1944797713046045001

ironmouse is sexy

>>102260575
>Another example to add to the pile of Zen being absolutely selfless and kind.
You know who else acted like a selfless and kind saviorfag, had main character syndrome and was good friends with Zen? Arcadum.

>>102264713
Yes she is.
I want her to use this model again.

First, zen doesnt mind leeches because she sees it as a unity 'rising tide raises all boats' thing. What she doesnt like is monkey branching, the idea of abandoning people you previously leeched once you become bigger than them.

Second, the issue is almost certainly that VShojo's 5 year timer on their venture capital funding is almost over, and they are either going to be bought out or forced to go public. Whatever happened is something that geega and zen dont like, and zen tried to 'save' mouse and henya from it not realizing that they are fine with it.

>>102263655
>Not even the indie bitches trio.

>>102264708
Nice.

>>102264744
Zen has abandoned people she used to stream with.

>>102264679
>good and honest
>seth weinsteins #1 dick rider
think again

>>102264637
If she went so Zenhera that she unfollowed Mouse and Henya and Ari was the cause, I don't see why she'd still follow Ari. Zen unfollowed Mouse first and even blocked her so it seems like the disagreement was mainly between them. I'd say Zen had a conversation with Henya today to see where she stands, and Henya didn't want to take her side leading to Zen unfollowing her on Twitch and taking the day off to get back into a more stable headspace.

>>102263655
>None of the other leavers did that. Not even the indie bitches trio.
despite what this thread tries to tell you Silver and Vei are good girls

>>102264804
I just think Zen will unfollow Ari soon. After the server incident something is happening

>>102264457
But will we get some giantess art from it? That's the real question here.

>>102264868
I don't think Ari is the cause of the disagreement, but she does seem to side with Mouse and Henya.

>>102264744
>the issue is almost certainly that VShojo's
Then why does she still follow vshojo on twitch but not Mouse and Henya.

>>102264814
>Vei
debatable but she seems better nowadays
>Who
no.

>>102264891
I'm just trying to find the connection between Ari and Mei not being friends.

>>102264814
kek nope

people hyperfocus on zen, but not enough people talk about how mata when from name dropping ironmouse as 1 of 2 non-nijis she was talking to when thinking about graduating to ignoring mouse completely in the present day

>>102264919
>>102264925
people like you have been proven wrong countless times
your blind hate is funny at this point

>>102264934
We already went thought that.
Mata wanted to be much closer to Mouse and got way too pushy and Mouse pulled back.

>>102264953
It's not blind at all. If she wanted to be a good person she could start by correcting people who use her name to harass Froot for example. Would be an easy first step that she won't take because she's not a good person and doesn't care about others unless it benefits her.

>>102264961
Mouse's fault. Bad person.

>>102264814
>vei
>good
kek nice joke

>>102264923
Definitely related.

>>102264814
Both Silver and Vai have said bitchy things so I see them as bitchy.

I don't think a single post in this thread has a single fact backing it up. Quit making retarded rrats because it gives antis shit to work with.

>blocked Mouse
>unfollowed Henya
>Ari left her discord
>barely anyone showed up to subathon
>barely anyone talked about her leaving
it doesn't get any more clear who is bad actor Mouse obviously

>>102265138
I 1000% believe Ari is facilitating this behind the scenes.

>>102265132
If you mean Zen not following Mouse and Henya on twitch but still following Arcadum and Nux.
Check yourself
https://tools.2807.eu/follows?user=zentreya

>>102265132
And a lot of it seems to be from the + or Arisperg trying to bring her down for whatever reason. These people are very fucking stupid

>>102265006
yawn, keep going

>>102265132
Better start following your own advice then.

>>102265166
Zen is cool with Nux. Whatever Henya and Mouse did was worse.

>>102263751
There's literally a bait thread on the catalog because people keep trying to rrat out a truth they literally can't find on their own. >>102263751
>>102265196
Nigga I'm not the one giving people who will actually go on to harass the members ammo to do it with. People who are TTSing Henya and Zen asking shit

Anyone facilitating Henya harassment is evil is my take on the matter

>>102265271
But enough about you

>>102265271
Zen is the one who made this all public by blocking and unfollowing everyone and being petty.

>>102264919
>Who
>no.
Yeah, Sinder is a cunt, you're right about that one, for once in your miserable, pathetic life.

>>102265155
ari, the real shadow ceo of vshojo

when was the last time mel collabed with zen?

>>102265353
reminder people thought Sinder was a sweet girl for 4 years before truth came out
Ari will get what's coming to her one day

>>102265376
When was the last time she collabed with anyone that's not Dust?

>>102265397
why was she ignoring zen so much?

>>102265376
Zen still follows her so that doesn't bother Zen.
Almost like she only targeting Mouse and Henya.

Why do mousefags keep harassing silverwho? what did she do to deserve that?

>>102264814
>>102265122

>>102265376
march iirc, it was when Mel and Ama were so bad at Monhun they asked Zen to help them
Mel was busy moiving for some time

>>102265438
couldn't she find a few hours to spend time with zen?

>>102265429
>>102265435
Kill yourselves.

>>102265429
she knows what she did

>>102265454
Yes everyone has to be able to make time for Zen otherwise she will leave the group and unfollow you.

>>102265463
nothing

>>102265302
Nigga that's not making this public. Saying something is making it public. Quietly unfollowing someone is the opposite of public. Quit being a fucking schizo

>>102265455
Why do you insist on impotently defending her honor in this thread?

>>102265473
she was trying to keep things civil and unitypilled before mouse went cunt mode and started manipulating everyone around her again

>>102265455
why are you so mad mousefag?

>>102265376
If that counts for a collab, they were in one discord call watching Vtuber Awards and congratulating each other when they won, back in December.

>>102265481
I'm sorry anon but for big content creator unfollowing people is making it public.

So we can now agree that it was all Mel's fault

>>102265302
that the opposite off making public, she unfollowed blocked and moved on with her life, no one made anything public just you fags love playing detective

>>102264581
Or learn Koikatsu. It's not hard. I can make stuff but vanilla porn is for dorks.

>>102265572
>you fags love playing detective
also, blowing things out of proportion, making things up, putting their own words in someone's mouth, etc, etc

>>102265547
Listen to yourself anon. You're literally TMZ'ing it up right now lmao

>>102265572
Anon it make news when celebs unfollow each other.

>>102265599
That proves the point anon
>>102265600

These niggas really saying "We should be more like LSF! That famously loved community that nobody has any issues with!"

Is Arielle's fault plenty of proof posted.

thank goodness mouse stood up for herself lol

>>102265435
Bat?

>>102265579
gigabased
I should try to make some giantess stuff as well

>>102265636
No I'm not saying that anon, but as big creators unfollowing people IS making it public.

Why do people keep trying to bring Mei into this qrd

>>102265682
Its Maisperg they always try to shit on Mei

>>102265682
Battling spergs. Arisperg vs Meisperg.

Reminder that Mouse was the one who started things by removing Zen's vip and only returning it when she realized we could see it happened.

>>102265682
there's this guy who unconsciously wants to be fucked by her

>>102265670
If you want help or advice just reply to the OP since I make most of the threads and I'll definitely notice that way. Or if it's a weekend do so in /beeg/ since that's when that thread is alive and if it's to facilitate more size stuff being made people will definitely help.

Mousefags: Zen's at fault
Zenfags: Mouse is at fault
This thread in a nutshell

>>102265731
Wait I meant ask in /beeg/ in general not ask the /beeg/ OP I don't make that thread only /vsj+/

ok but what did Henya do?

>>102265752
Sorry but Zen falling out with Henya is a point in Mouse's favor

>>102265752
we figured out it was mel's fault

>>102265764
told zen to stop being such a whiny bitch dayo~

>>102265752
reality: it's same guy

>>102265636
This thread was always LSF-lite, just fyi.

>>102259373
Off model bs

Lets settle it once and for all.
https://poal.me/v8el1j
https://poal.me/v8el1j
https://poal.me/v8el1j

>>102265764
Bounce on it dayo Crazy style dayo

>>102265810
>Not letting me add an option
coward

>>102265810
don't click, doxx inside

>>102265579
Is there a nonlewd expansive model creator like it out there for scene creation etc? The really good KK models make me wanna create cute comics with them instead of porn

>>102265795
Zen didn't want to bounce on it dayo.

>>102265817
If Mel was comfortable with showing herself on stream it would be really fucking funny to do the idea she was talking about with Dust last night. She gets married to a body pillow and has Henya officiate the wedding with the last line being you may now bounce on it crazy style dayo

>>102265773
>falling out with Henya
And Ari

be nise today

>>102265712
Considering how prone Zen is to blocking and unfollowing everyone, she probably removed it herself.

>>102265835
Probably, but Koikatsu's probably better for it because of the massive community + easy access to scenes and cards. 95% of what I make isn't lewd I just like using the models like dolls to make memes and stuff. There's nothing stopping you from keeping models fully clothed and doing cute stuff with them instead of lewd if that's your prerogative

>>102265832
You sacred of people telling the truth so you make this lie up?

>>102265898
>95% of what I make isn't lewd
what is the fucked up shit you made Froot do for the 5%?

>>102265712
crazy how people forget this detail and it was probably right around the time zen announced she was leaving to mouse leaving her plenty of time to drop one of her oldest friends like she did nyan and the rest

>>102265964
You know people can remove their own VIP right anon?

>>102265810
Who the fuck said Henya?

>>102265932
I mean mostly giantess stuff which is usually also clothed minus shoes. I've done like 2-3 futa things ever though because I also love that, though not nearly as much. Like
https://files.catbox.moe/n63jrk.jpg I made a couple years ago when I was still very new to it
https://files.catbox.moe/5jvb4a.png or this which honestly just makes me laugh
I think there's a couple more but I'd have to find them

>>102265898
I don't have anything against people using it for lewd stuff also, all the power to you. When I saw that sleeping Haruka though, it awakened something in me. Do creators care if it shows up in the fanart tag? Do they know?

>>102265982
>it was totally zen and not mouse that removed the vip even though zen was still trying to be a part of mouses life back then

>>102265999
So long as it's in the right tag most people are perfectly okay with it it's not like AI stuff where there can be a big stigma against it. If it's SFW go for it. If it's NSFW drop it in the appropriate tag, and if that tag doesn't exist then don't tag it at all.

>>102263642
>Henya likes to schedule collabs shes never been the type to get kidnapped for stuff
>She had a collab planned with mouse and Ari the day, Zen probably asked them for a collab on that day maybe the 1-2 days before and they both said no we are busy
>Later that night Zen saw them paying games together
>Thats it
>Zen probably confronted them and out of the two Mouse stood her ground hence the block and shit

I also would not be surprised if it's literally some stupid shit like this. Especially if Zen was already quietly seething over the lack of contact with Mouse and/or Henya.

Zen seemed to have some frustrations with management too that went back a while (maybe related to the auditions, who the fuck knows), but I don't think that's related.

At the end of the day, my care-o-meter is almost spent. Zen's gone, and all anyone is doing is treating every single thing that happens now like it's being done with explicit meaning and symbolism. Ari collabs with Mouse and Henya? She "chose" them. Michi talks to Zen? Oh she "chose" Zen and is so /out/. But wait, she also said Mouse had been very supportive during everything she was going through, so she's /in/? Can she be both?

It's incredibly stupid.

>>102265810
Botted poll.

I asked chatgpt about the current situation between Zen, Ironmouse and Henya at Vshojo, and about all the unfollows.
It said you shouldn't draw any conclusions about there being any drama since no public statements were made, the talent departures were amicable, and you're all a bunch of weirdos for speculating about follows which don't prove anything
>tfw llm is more sane than anons itt

>>102266101
Cope

>>102265810
fuck your pool

>>102266138
>>102266101
>pool
Melty

>>102266109
ChatGPT is gay ask Grok since its a vtuber now.

>>102266146
Read again, faggot.

Zen was in the wrong for trusting Ari

>>102265712
it's crazy what kind of backstabbing bitch Mouse is
literally
>I would've gotten away with it if it wasn't for those pesky /vsj+/ Anons!

>>102266090
>She had a collab planned with mouse and Ari the day, Zen probably asked them for a collab on that day maybe the 1-2 days before and they both said no we are busy
Just let Zen join, it's not difficult. Peak supports 4 players, as we say with the Mouse, Henya, Ari, Connor collab, and countless others at this point.

>>102266158
Yep, still says pool

>>102263765
Follow your siblings, stinky!

>>102265999
Didn't Haruka react to one with Froot?

>>102266151
I'll ask grok some other time, when there's maybe some genocide I'd like to justify

>>102266177
So you're fucking bling and illiterate? >>102266101

>>102266189
I know that Ari and Froggy have talked at length about a specific NSFW Koikatsu animation where Froggy fucks Ari with a green dildo which Froggy keeps mistaking for futa and questioning why she has a green cock.

>>102266222
>bling

>>102266222
>bling
dumb or dyslexic and dumb?

>>102266222
>bling bling bling bling bling bling bling bling

>>102266090
The closest thing I can guess is that Henya wasn't that into WoW but was willing to try it out for a bit with Zen and co, but Henya went back to try out XIV instead with Ari and she felt bad about it. Ari talked to Zen and cleared things up, Henya never knew anything was wrong. Probably doesn't look at unfollows or anything and if she did, would think it's because Zen doesn't wanna feel bad about "leaving the nest" That seems really silly though and takes a lot of guesswork. Might as well say she accidentally unfollowed her through a misclick if you believe that. Not worth looking into if something concrete isn't there to back up the rrat its just dumb gossip

>>102266222
Anon I was talking about
>>102266138
But thanks for making a fool of yourself too.

>>102266090
This, Zen dropped Mouse and Henya so it's safe to drop her and stop thinking about her.

>>102266234
Was it a good one? Never looked for it

>>102266324
This is what we're doing now. Writing head canon novels?

>>102266367
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12568970

Man am I glad my Oshi isn't involved in this

>>102266393
Same

>>102266364
She still holds Haruka, which makes her a +, though it makes me wonder if Haruka would take sides in all this

>>102266414
I think it's probably better to discuss Zen in other threads now. Anons will start treating her like Silver now that she's shown she's no longer friends with both Mouse AND Henya. Someone who cuts off Henya is pretty unforgivable in my eyes.

>>102266414
Haruka.Michi.Ama.and somehow froot unless they all out!

>she
>her

>>102266471
your opinion doesn't matter

>>102266510
I can't stop you from posting Zen here, but just know you'll be no better than that anon that liveposts Silver to troll the thread.

>>102266109
llms try to be logical at heart, so of course they're gonna be more sane than a species filled to the brim with raging emotions

>>102266370
That's what I'm saying, it's not worth thinking about or else you'll go schizo yourself

mindbroken thread kek

>>102266675
Based, we love Zen and Silver here.

>>102266675
Not really, Its pretty clear Zen is the problem.

Don’t let all this shit flinging distract you from the fact that no one has posted Kuro in Koikatsu yet

why is it always ironmouse's fault? does she hate other vtubers? she seems to be friendly with flesh streamers with huge audiences. so what makes her hate vtubers?

>>102266675
Its fine. It all ends this week anyways. Hopefully today or tomorrow. Then we can migrate to /ex-vsj+/ and /Mouse/

Henya is never wrong

>>102266723
God I hope they announce something today.

>>102266723
True
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2511346625?t=1h33m32s

>>102266581
not at all. Zen is still a +

I want to watch M3gan 2.0 with Mouse and listen to her repeat those dirty jokes and boomer memes

>>102266700
Reminder that Zen also unfollowed Silvervale.

>>102266790
>Slivervale who never played ball with vtubers conducting business

>>102266782
>I want to watch M3gan 2.0
oof

>>102266790
didn't silver post in support of zen leaving regardless?

>>102266782
Mouse saying dirty jokes and innuendos?
Yes please.

>>102266848
It’s really fun to watch bad movies or cult films with Mousey

>>102266870
Yes, because Silver is a good person.

>>102266870
She's trying to leech, yes.

>>102266780
I'm sure Mouse and Henya will come around and apologize to Zen soon, then everything will be resolved. Zen's a very forgiving person, and I doubt they did anything that bad.

>>102266782
Mouse please do this

>>102266877
Mouse does have "Hold on to your vaginas" sound alert and she likes it

>>102263655
Except they did
Nyan unfollowed Melody on every platform, I think Silver and Vei did the same
Same with Froot

the doom posting will continue until you tease a debut gunrun. god help us if it's unironically a 2view.

>>102267005
or when vshojo is no more.

>>102267023
Silvercuck would need to find some new job then

>>102265764
Actually since none of you are here most of the time
I think it was the auto host, dunno why Zen just didn’t remove her, but she unfollowed Henya while she was streaming Peak with them and hosting it in her channel.
Henya VIP still is there lol

>>102267069
>Zen being a petty bitch

>>102267004
How does Mel of all people trigger someone to do that

>>102267049
Funny how you're projecting while being completely jobless yourself, pyrocuck.

>>102267118
Pushy behind the scenes bullshit. Same reason Nyan doesn't interact with Mouse anymore.

>>102267003
Blah blah blah?

>>102267004
nyan doesn't follow froot and melody
vei doesn't follow melody
silver follows both

>>102267097
I mean, yeah? I don’t think she’s being 100% clear that her intention is to not directly or indirectly support Mouse.
But Henya is close to Mouse now, and whatever happened with her mostly is enough to put her off from both Henya and partially Ari, although the second one might be distancing herself rather than Zen doing anything, but probably apologized for that collab since Ari and her didn’t had much issue like a week ago.
I saw other stuff and it’s just mainly those two unfollows. It goes as everyone think it is, Zen is pissed off to Gun since March (probably from Matara being fired), and whatever happened between Mouse and Zen on June, which is the person she mainly blames for the collab. Henya and Ari are weird strays caught on it.

Ari is a snake in the grass.

>>102267118
Mel probably just made a innocent mistake but unfortunately when you work with groups of women they don't forgiven and forget.

>>102267226
mel mishandled the whole nux thing pretty poorly and i think some of the girls never really warmed up to her again fully after that

>>102267258
Yeah that's what I mean, I don't think Mel did anything on purpose or maliciously.
If it was a group of guys they would have talked it out or got over it.

>>102267288
well we did learn nyan after the whole thing occurred that nyan was dealing with a swatting incident, mel brushing off a bunch of doxx shit without talking to them all obviously would rub nyan the wrong way in the long term

>>102267220
Snake and Zen

we're never getting the latina twerk off now

>>102267411
tabs

>>102267426
As long as we still get Mouse twerking in 3d when she is able to do the dancing stream then I will be happy.

remember when everyone thought sykkuno was going to join but it was actually amalee. this mouse/zen/henya shit reminds me of that.

Losing degen Mouse was the cause of it all.

I do not hate Mouse

>>102267426
That's kinda the thing I can't blame Zen for it when she had that sperg off, there's a good number of collabs Mouse said she wanted to do with Zen, and the number of collabs between them that isn't a group thing Zen drag her to, it's really low. The Tekken stuff only really happened because it was in the subathon. I remember still believing the Kamen Rider stream would happen

Ari is trying to be Littlefinger, sooner or later she will be caught in her web of lies.

So how many subgoals does this fallout prevent?

>>102267508
I and a lot of others just stopped watching her when it was obvious she was changing too much.

I'm sorry but what Zen did was not cool, and the fact that Matara supported that makes it even worse.
Those two can go do whatever they want, as long as it's far away from me.

>>102267566
realistically only a couple but mouse will use this as an excuse to abandon nearly all of them

>>102267694
Ok, Mousefag. Not like any one wants to be near you anyway.

unfollowing pink rat was fine and okay, but unfollowing stinky is too much. I've expected better from Zentreya of Independent

>>102267694
Henya chose her side to get a VA role as Connor secretary.

>>102267737
I hope that Zen understands that it's just business.

>>102267694
>Matara supported Zen
>Mata=Slav=USSR
>Zen=Latina=Cuba
UNITY

You expect me to think any of these posts are based in reality or...?

I feel bad for Michi.

>>102267755
>just business mentioned
>no sinder.jpg provided
what year is this?

>>102267590
When she got rid of the nsfw discord cannels and the daki, that's when I knew it was time.

>>102267793
they all hate each other now.

>>102267764
>Latina=Cuba
is this what they teach you in geography class in the US?

>>102267793
Her friends aren't petty
Even they hate each other, they wouldn't force her to take a side.

>>102267787
no , if someone does believe this they are clearly retarded

>>102267865
They are all from Caribbean Sea so they are similar

imagine unfollowing Henya of all people..what level of menhera is that ? over 9000 ?

>>102267865
Are you fucking retarded?

>>102267991
Just tells me that there's more to Henya behind the scenes that we don't know about. Everyone found out about Mouse last time. Now it's Henya's turn to get exposed as a bad person.

>>102267991
jesus christ your cringe as fuck

>>102268021
uh oh zenfag melty

>>102268021
my cringe what?

>>102268021
cope harder

>>102268021
cope and seeth faggot

Truly pathetic that schizos took over this general

nigga is working overtime replying here and keeping the bait thread alive

>>102268071
not really, this has happened before and we have a regular protocol. the only people who suffer are the ones who choose to interact.

>>102268098
exquisite detective work

>>102268071
To be fair there's still some Zen squatters who keep fucking with the thread by posting about her here.

>Henya didn't like the loud and messy Zen's lobbies and slowly dropped them off
>Ari started to dislike the friends Zen was getting and slowly dropped them off
>Enter Mouse
>Already knew how to avoid her lobbies and accept some of them (by telling Zen she was sick or she was busy)
>Was closer to the two due to the Minecraft Server
>Sweep them over to her collabs (mainly Ari)
>didn't even tried to invite Zen
>bond more with the two offline (watching movies together, getting into calls with them)
>slowly got them cool stuff (bbno$ collab, GeexPlus, VA role for Henya, etc).
>finally cut off Zen entirely and started collabing more with each other
>Zen (still thinking everything was cool between each other and for her subathon) invites Mouse to a collab, after Mouse literally told her they should collab next week (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dst6haJwkAc)
>gets a straight no
>zen is ok with it
>sees that behind her back Mouse, Ari and Henya are collabing with each, didn't even told her
>zen is not ok with it
>spergs out
>her suspicious are right and Mouse was indeed the person to blame
>fully eliminates Mouse's from her life even unfollowing Henya when the autohost had a collab with Mouse
>zen knows that Henya now fully trusts more Mouse

>>102268105
yeah that protocol works well

>>102268071
If the schizos weren't here we'd have a new message once every 2 hours.

>>102268011
Come on, I know these girls put personas and all most of the time, but you have to be very deliusional to think Henya is capable of something really bad. Or she's actually the best actress out there and should go to Hollywood. She probably just ignored Zen a few times and turned her down for a collab or something.

>>102268071
I'm actually Silver

>>102268120
SCHIZO POST
DO NOT ENGAGE

>>102268011
I will tts her that she should be ashamed for her abhorrent behaviour towards Zen. We might be able to bully her into retirement, if other anons participate.

>>102268119
Do you hear yourself?

>>102268120
Man i just want to watch anime woman play video games and sent them bits calling them stinky

imagine being mad at Henya

>>102268119
go bake /vsj/ or /mouse/ she is still a plus through other members
>michi haruka and ama

>>102268132
That'd be good. Only retards want a thread that's fast because it's schizo.

>>102268161
I also told Silver squatters to fuck off. I gave Zen the benefit of the doubt when she unfollowed Mouse. But if she wants nothing to do with Henya this isn't really the thread to discuss Zen in anymore.

>>102268150
All of those things have been mentioned or seen on stream tho
Except the cool stuff, outside of the bbno$ I have no proof that were Mouse, but it's funny if it were.

>>102268231
Retard

y'all can't handle latinas

>>102268231
This post is very funny to me because the person I've seen post this nooticing image in /vsj+/ more than anyone else was actually the pet schizo lol. Could not have made a worse case for not being a schizo

you guys are not ready for whats Vshojo been cooking

>>102268228
Oh fuck off you never cared. You love wallowing in rrat shit

>>102268289
I think everything will feel yummy after that shitshow lately

>>102268289
kek are they even cooking anymore?

>>102268242
Mouse went from liking Ari from a few collab, to saying she owned her, then to talk over stuff doing offline like watching movies together and now Ari appears in every stream on her chat.
Mouse ended up built trust with them, and accidentally caused them to separate from Zen.
>>102268269
You live long enough to become Jelly.

>>102268289
A whole lot of nothing

Michi promoting the case

>>102268251
Yeah
In hindsight
It was my fault for loving two latinas at the same time.

>>102268289
Bro we fired the cooks and sold the kitchen.

>>102268210
>hasn't been on any collabs for months
>SHE IS STILL A PLUS

>>102268289
>geega says this
>leaves

>>102268143
Silver please post your feet I'm begging you

>>102268393
Honestly I forgot Geega left

>>102268351
More like

Damn, you guys are really this surprised about how female friendships/associations end? This is actually remarkably tame compared to haw it usually goes.

>>102268484
>actually remarkably tame
because one of them isn’t a woman

>>102268120
Ari and Zen has the same friends lmao. What a fucking snake Ari is.

>you would think I would have a sheet of what has been sent and what hasn't
>but i will try my best to find it, i would i hope it exists

>>102268071
people with plenty of free time on their hands sit on twitter/reddit/chan 24/7 and go full schizo all the time. also water is wet

>>102268515
Geega talking about merch?

>>102268484
TRVKE

>>102268530
Yes. Talking about the tickets of people not having their merch yet

>>102268450
Is that real? Maybe I do need to get Stranding 2

>>102268562
no it's ai generated

>>102268530
Literally the trio of materialism:
1. Matara
2. Shylily
3. Geega

Geega betrayed us too, or is she neutral like Michi?

>>102268484
Pretty much all of the ugly stuff happened offstream.
Everyone is just seeing at surface level. People can assume (as I did) but no truth is out there as it is now. The only conclusion is Zen doesn't want anything to do with Mouse, and that caught stays on close friendships between the two. Only Michi is saved because Michi is Michi and she wasn't that integral to those collabs that pissed off Zen

>>102264814
>they won

>>102268542
>I'd love to talk a lot but the only things I can mention are the least of the issues like this
VShojo must have been awful behind the scenes.

We need a Squeextuber.

>>102268587
Sounds like things were bad and Geega's mad she can't talk about a lot of it because of the perma NDA
https://www.twitch.tv/geega/v/2512456594?sr=a&t=1748s

>Hey guys if you haven't received your merch yet, please email vshojo about ticket number and stuff. I'll try to sort it out.
>Geega has betrayed us
?????

>>102268591
won at losing the most amount of viewers

>>102268643
>perma NDA
that's not a thing

>>102268672
They've all said it's permanent

>>102268643
>read a contract
>sign a contract
>get mad because you are bound by it legally
lmao

There needs to be a book written after VShojo falls.
>Who killed the VShojo star?

>>102268672
True. Gotta wait until vshojo disbands. That's when things will get really ugly.

>>102268684
which part of it's not a thing you didn't understand ?

>>102268702
Guess Geega was lying then.

>>102268692
The truth will come out sooner or later. I am extremely curious what they're mad about teebeehayh.

newthread
>>102268729
>>102268729
>>102268729

>>102268727
many such cases

>>102268591
first time seeing this pic animated

>>102268692
At least they can't pretend like there were no lawyers involved this time lol

>>102268414
She left as she joined