Giantess (Ex) Org Edition
Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.
Nothing's changed since the last thread except Ama ended keep things comfy, etc.
Image source: https://x.com/averysoftpear/status/1937283288303042715
/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya
Related:
/vsjp/ + /voms/ for VShojo Japan and VOMS Project discussion
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion
Previous thread:
>>102486629
Hell yeah back to 2022 vshojo thread speed.
I need to know Nova will be alright
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SOMEONE SAVE THE NOVAS
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We just need her to remove her fake tag, but she probably doesn't even think about VSJ anymore.
Mel is the last one standing
IT'S SO FUCKING OVER FOR REAL THIS TIME
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How we feeling bros
>>102490282The last Vshojo member
>>102490282How would you react if she did remove it?
>>102490264They were never alright
I love lewd waifu Mouse.
I LOVE MOUSE
Hope Hime and Mel hang out when she goes back to japan
>>102490343I'd rape a keyfag
>>102490168 (OP)Why's that building shaped like a buttplug
>>102490331It's your turn to burn it down Melly. Fuck Gunrun greedy ass
>>102490268They saved themselves, retard.
None of this would have happened if Geega had been hired as Vshojo CEO
>>102490388I'm pretty sure that's a real building in London
can you guys link me back into the archive when zen re-followed mouse?!
I'M SO HAPPY HARUKA IS AWAKE TO HATE VSHOJO ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE
>Nyan retweeted Mouse's Tiltify
Pink love...
>vshojo dies
>nyannersfags, who have been exiled for years, immediately spam her as hard as possible
Why do you keep forcing your pink whore on a website she doesn't want to be a part of and which doesn't want her. Go the fuck back to twitter and stay there, retard. Stop leeching.
>>102490455now it truly begins...
>>102490455MOUSES MOUTH PIECE LIVE
>>102490480Jap defamation will force him to shut up.
>>102490460Didn't even bother to reply, did only the bare minimum.
Mouse is no better than one of her old cats.
>>102490535they aren't a Japanese company
>>102490460Falseflag
She did it to throw people off. That's why she retweeted Geega instead of Mouse correctly.
They clearly hate each other. I'm sure of it and I'm not being crazy here.
>>102490562uh there is no vshojo community anymore
I NEED A SILLY HIME STREAM NOW
>>102490562Haruka doesn't do shit she owes me impregnating sex
>>102490253I wanna fuck that pussy
So...
Vshojo was the blackest company in the end?
Be honest: were you expecting today to go like this? It feels like a nightmare with how quick everything is going. Vshojo died so quickly that it hasn't taken in completely.
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>>102490697I thought Mouse would be leaving but not like this.
>>102490455They hurt his rat, he's out for blood
>>102490684It was obvious when the 3 whitest members (Vei, Nyan, and Silver) all left at once
oh shit hes going to go on a rant for his rat
>>102490618best i can do is a joey video about why vtubers are bad
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Hotaru removed it as well
They are just NOVA now
I think Mel might change it later once she feels good enough mentally to come online
>>102490697I'm surprisingly okay with this, it feels like proper closure rather than months and months of vagueposting and "sorry bro I can't go into detail"
>>102490509Both veibae and pink shit lost because their ccv has collapsed below 1000.
And most of all (You) lost, since you're literally unironically a cuckold, probably contenting yourself with max faggot thoughts like "she'll eventually get tired of him". She won't and you'll always be a massive fucking loser incel.
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>At the end of the day Hololive still remains the best corpo of vtubing
>>102490697i expected mouse to follow behind if even zen left, but i did not expect it to be like this.
>>102490684Depends on what you define as 'blackest'. For me it's still Niji
>>102490761I wonder how much he will say. Given there is an active legal situation and with how close he is to Mouse it might be tough.
Vshojo JP exists can he go full on them given how JP defamation is
So who is going to fix his backpack during irl streams now?
>>102490790they get fucked by old men and laugh at simps
>>102490684Vshojo didn't push multiple talents to the brink of suicide, so not quite.
>>102490697I mean, a situation like this, it's going to blow up fast.
Mouse leaving was ALWAYS going to be the biggest possible red flag. Leaving like THIS is "the nuke is visible over the city."
If VShojo doesn't have a DAMN good response by end of day tomorrow, the entire company is fucked beyond belief and EVERYONE will leave.
>>102490697gunrun stealing 500k from charity was not on my bingo card
>>102490697yes. i have insider information i knew all along
Hey guys, heard the news. Bye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
>>102490684yes any other answer is cope
>>102490372Sometimes I suspect that she is a genuine retard kek
>>102490848rob and robcde
>>102490869Gun is innocent till further notice or flees the country with said
>>102490684black company is more where they work you to death. vshojo just steals your money and charity donations i guess so yknow w/e
>>102490697I didn't think Mouse will accuse the company of a crime, no.
>>102490684nah, wactor and niji
>>102490848He's modded the piss out of it. It's not even the same thing anymore. He has Nabi and onibro for assistance now.
>>102490697Fuck no. I was assuming if this org died, it was going to be a slow protracted bleed of funds until they eventually couldn't afford keep the lights on anymore. I wasn't expecting a fucking embezzlement scam and complete implosion.
>>02490763The hololive guy is out.
This is what talent freedom looks like
>>102490790Hololive is the Nintendo of vtubing.
They have enough capital that they can be shitty and fuck up for years and still survive.
Just 'cause they're still kicking doesn't mean they're good.
>>102490868what response can even save it at this point? only Mel is left and that's only because she's crying offline
>>102490788neither of them are under 1000 tho
>>102490766I think Mel might be on the side of the company. Vshojo can't die like this. She just needs to get the receipts.
Mel was the biggest stand for this company, I'm genuinely concerned
cant believe Gunrun stole 500k for his backpack collection
>>102490766the group NOVA is the one contracted by UMJ so it's out of Vshojo brand name, but what will happen to the the JP branch? they split out and have their own thing? I just want Henya and the Nova girls to be fine
>>102490697I'm glad the slow exodus and radio silence was giving me anxiety
it was obvious something bad was gonna happen
now it's over. no more uncertainty
the girls are gonna keep streaming and things are gong to be ok, so no big deal
>>102490971Ukelele + small dog
>>102491003at this point, Melody is the only streamer left in vsj
>>102491003Little worried she might hurt herself. I hope Kson can go over or something.
>>102491034mel in geexplus will be perfect and visa
>>102490935Fucked up ma bad
>>102490763The creepy guy kaho was talking about is out.
>Officially, Froot will not longer be associated with Mouse soon
Finally better days ahead
>>102490950They're not mainstream yet. No one there are even Zen level yet. Wait until then, you'll see changes.
>>102490697>It feels like a nightmare with how quick everything is goingA nightmare that will be over soon. They could have dragged it out for weeks or months and turned it into a walking corpse, instead they ripped the bandaid off.
>>102490734like a good soiboi he is
>>102491009Honestly NOVA could just break off and absorb Henya and Kson as an indie group. Kson will take her manager with her, I imagine Henya will be the same. Shouldn't hurt them too much.
>>102490697No, the only way I would be more surprised is if it were Mel
>>102490950>freedom to be racistThis is a good thing?
>>102491009same anon
the novas a re pretty big compared to most jp indies
The only sad thing is that Hestia never got to quit her full time job so now it'll be a little harder
But I think they'll be fine but lets see
>>102491132I just hope that whatever happens they won't be affected by it too much.
Between Geega and Bao, who is the biggest scam magnet?
>>102490782I posted about this on /voms/ but there's a beauty to everybody using the fact that they keep their rights to drop the company together like this. Some unity beyond corpo ties
>>102491077>not longerESL aside, I can't tell if you're anti mousey or anti froot kek.
>>102491144Kson doesn't fuck around.
>>102491144kek I'll be sleeping at that time but lets see what she says
>>102491144i don't watch her these days, but i respect her for typically doing what she actually wants to do.
>>102491144We'll likely get answers about NOVA there.
>>102491144>begging management for an answerHow black is this shit?
SOMETHING BIG JUST DROPPED BEHIND THE SCENES.
>>102491144noone fucks with kson anymore
fucking guns blazing
>>102491198No way he didn't know
>>102491187Mouse blew their numbers out of the water in one shot.
Both Tectone and Evanit said the same sort of thing reacting to Mouse's video.
They know something but will only say if she does.
Maybe they aren't lying.
I'm not overly bothered by this, but I will be rather sad if it turns out Mel was somehow one of the baddies. She's always been someone who came across as a genuinely sweet person.
>>102491206how can you be happy about this, now every bait thread will be about you instead of just 90%
>>102491198I assumed he left because he knew. Hm
>>102491264biggest scammer and biggest scamee. she needed both titles
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Unrelated but HOLY KEK
>>102491198*mowtendoo exiting the scene in a new $200k boat* whoa gunrun wtf?? *vanishes into the horizon*
>>102491213WAIT, HE DIDN'T KNOW!?
>>102491124>WeAnd I'll be happy to see less of you fags under Mouse posts moving forward
>>102491213This anon found out what he did
>>102491006
>>102491198kek wtf aintnoway he didn't know
>>102491198im guessing he knows somethings but not the whole thing
>>102491320well... might as well drop the bombs on them today. lets all suffer.
>>102491282They don't know shit. Evanit0 has been on this "oh boy guise I know some shit!" since like 2023. He doesn't know anything and whatever he may have known has nothing to do with this.
>>102491320lol perfect timing, 10/10
>>102491320fuck the dude is lucky getting to Creampie her every day
>>102491320This is why you don't mess with the Gunrun lol
>>102491320Bro what the fuck is this day
>>102491320I thought this was fake. What the fuck was she thinking?
Long intro mouse must be telling him to not go too hard
>>102491320Well, that'll get some of the Holofag attention off of this at least
>>102491383Yesterday I would have agreed
What was that japanese 4chan equivalent? Anyone dares to take a peek over there?
>>102491132Question is whether henya and kson want them. They are unironically too small to make extra money that could benefit the other 2. Unless henya and kson want to invest in their future or form just a friend group with no other strings attached..even then there would be concerns about novas taking viewers of henya and kson for free. How would the equation be balanced there?
>>102491213Even Melody the founding fucking member doesn't seem to know. Oh Gunrun you fucking piece of shit
>>102491431Its only Monday
>>102491320vtubing... I don't feel so good
>>102491320>See's the internet on fire because of MouseWell she picked a good time as people are distracted elsewhere
>>1024914452chan pretty sure it's hellfire over there too
>>102491144>Kson also didn't have a clue (probably)Frankly I'm surprised, makes me feel a little less concerned that Mel was out of the loop
>>102491344us mousefags will leave and post froot
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>>102491320IT'S ALL FUCKING OVER
>>102491320HOLY SHIT, GOSSLING MASSACRE PART 2!
starting "soon" screens longer than ten minutes should be a bannable offence
Mouse was really holding back any attempts to cry during the video
>>102491198gunrun rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XOa5XXCliU
>>102491320I don't know anything about Nimi.
Does she have goslings that are gonna go nuclear over this or something?
>>102491439what he cant mention lol
>>102491444Oh get the fuck out of here. Evanit0 is a grifting dramafaggot. He says shit like this all the time about everybody but never delivers. Tectone doesn't know shit either. None of these faggots know anything, but they want you to think they do so you'll give them free advertising and bait clicks. Congrats, you fell for the grift.
>>102491320Great for her! Any good news at this point is amazing.
>>102491565Brother, it's Fauna. Of course she has.
>>102491144That's fucking hardcore, she really has grown strong.
>>102491320And I'm the husband.
>>102491193hotaru too
i hope the NOVA girls will be okay
>>102491320perfect distraction and lucky guy
>>102491213THAT'S WHAT I SAY COMING OUT THE TOILET AFTER I TAKE A #2
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>>102491462Negotiations breaking down, see those leaders start to frown
It's sword and gun dayyyyyyy~
>>102491213I would assume that Hime just got the full explanation, first tweet was just a generic support message. MTD, on the other hand, may have a bombshell to drop.
>>102491320She's getting married to me btw
>inb4 VShojo has receipts
Mel come on remove vshojo from you're name.
Don't feed the rrats
>>102491437Maybe she was thinking: "I'm free from Hololive and it's black company tactics so now I can talk about my happiness and share it with my fans and since I have nothing to do with VShojo or Ironmouse what the fuck do I care about the timing?"
>Monke's lawyer messaged Monke telling him to be careful
Welp
>>102491559https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc
Someone stole those $500k and they went somewhere
>>102491320lol great timing
>>102491610Oh. Huh.
News to me. I don't watch any Holos, lmao.
Oh shit Connor also got his lawyers involved with this case.
>>102491721hes got mods finally
I can't take so many oofs in one day
>>102491198>*stuffs dollar bills into a suitcase*>Yeah gunrun>*buys a new boat*>what the fuck is up with this>*snorts coke off an expensive prostitute's belly*>this is not cool man>*rides his new horse into the sunset*
>>102491721>Laughing and smiling while Mouse is cryingWhat a cunt
>>102491766holy fuck from 1 mod to a dozen
OFFTOPIC
WHAT IS GOING ON TODAY
>>102491320lmao imagine the tourists that came itt to dunk on vshojo (deserved) just to learn that
>>102491706Mel has finally appeared in her discord. We may get something soon.
>>102491812>3am wonYeah kinda.
Snuffy could've been a member of Vshojo before it all came a'crumblin'.
>>102491320I think I just heard a bunch of goslings just off themselves
>>102491831mouse is always crying, it's how her brand operates
>>102490253>Okayu imagewhat
>>102491878Damn they move fast. Its not even October yet.
>>102491875seethe you fucking retard monke will always be mouses #1
>>102491831she might be crying, but i'd expect that at the initial news, not right now. she probably feels like she just took a huge shit at this point, in a good way. maybe women work different though.
What did he mean by this?
>>102491816I remember when he was living it up in Vegas with some whore that tried to monkey branch from the MSM ceo to him too
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Was gone for a couple hours. Anything new I missed? Monke say anything in his stream?
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another one. oof
>>102491831connor best thing in mouses life
>>102491816one of them was stealing mouse's money directly, they didnt know the other was also stealing charity money
>>102492048he said Vshojo is a terrorist group
>>102492080That is not true, he uses her.
>>102492048He's actually wearing a different shirt for once
michis tarot reading is making more and more sense
>>102492048hes fucking mouse soon on CB
>>102492178Hot, I'd watch
>>102491831You never just laugh when you're extremely pissed off?
>>102492126fucking seethe you fat fuck loser monke winning being with mouse and you cant do anything hahahhahaha
>>102491320I'm so impressed by the timing, literally the best time to have done this
Peke retweeted the Kson tweet.
She is out for blood.
>>102491831hes angry BTFO again you fucking cunt
The only thing that could make this even better if gunrun had receipts forever plastering mouse and all involved as liars
>>102492178i do sort of want to see his dick, since he's so popular with women. i know it's not really the biggest factor, but still. curiosity.
>>102492390She wants money for horses
So is gun or whoever is found responsible facing potential jail time? Isn’t this a crime?
Gotta admire how not even this huge drama distracts the monke autists from doing their usual loop
>>102492454don't think so
I see connor is doing the more technical talk mouse will be unable do to
>>102491144CALLED THE FUCK OUT!
GO KSON GO!
>>102492414I hope, I wish, I believe
I still jerk off to pink cat, cant control myself when she used this outfit
>Connor basically confirming they have just been riding on the investor money.
oof
>>102492454it's a crime but who knows if who will face the charge? CEO? Head of Finance? entire Vshojo staff in 2024?
>>102492454idk burger law, but probably
>>102492440curved is a huge W
>>102492515It’s pretty much theft. 500,000 dollar theft.
>>102492575He's walking a thin line lmao
>>102492536how does it make you feel?
>>102492454if its as she seems to be saying, then it absolutely is a crime. whether anyone will see time for it right now, is another matter entirely.
>>102492600I wish it's geega
she can't keep getting away with it
>>102492536Really? You couldn't control yourself at all?
>>102492658hes good at it and damn I like this for my small brain to understand
>>102492575all company does. Connor is just a monke brain
>>102492536any good recent fanart of her?
>>102491320Implosion of en vtubing. Everything will be gone and what's left will be pokimanes with 2d models.
Mouse better not just jump into bed with GeeX after being betrayed by one corpo.
>>102492755smarter than 99% of the retards on this board
>>102492643i would be if mouse and vshojo had a written contract for the handling of that money
There's no way Mowtendoo didn't know about this stuff before he left right?
>>102492806She's joining CDaag Corp.
>>102492454That's why connor is being careful and even had to talk to his lawyer this is some serious allegations
>>102492454I don't know about the laws surrounding the situation where your company manages your personal finances, but so long as the money allocated for the IDF hasn't actually *gone* anywhere, then it's not really a crime
lmao turns out the smartest in the company, even smarter than Geega, was Henya with her "I have no idea how Vshojo even makes money". She has some instinct
At least I will always have my illegally downloaded copy of Candy Pop Explosion
>>102491320Every time Holofags make fun of mouse something happens to them kek
is it only Mel left with the Vshojo tag in Twitter?
>>102492661Hey stop that. Those sexy panties are for Aethel's eyes only.
>>102492707She has not accused VShojo of a crime. "Owed me money" is a civil issue, contracts and all that. The issue with the IDF donation money is not currently a crime, just a delinquent payment. I don't know what timeframe limitations there are on delivering a donation payment especially since VShojo itself is not the entity that pledged to pay the money to the IDF that's actually a Mouse problem as of right now...
>>102492806she's been in connors bed enjoying his curved cock
>>102492883defamation and also NDAs
>outside of the snake, the only one left is Mel, and she has no choice but to go down with the ship since her JP work visa is literally bolted and welded to it
welp
>>102492926Thing is, VShojo's model SHOULD work... assuming you don't spend money that you don't have
>>102492954Unless you count Nazuna's twitter yes
>>102492806it will be fine as long as she doesn't let them handle her finances
As Sinder said, it's just business
>>102490895no you r just a 2diget IQ
>>102492963anon, she was letting them manage her money in a business fashion and shits gone now. thats embezzlement or something, is it not? its at least seeming like theft.
>>102492963true. Ironmouse pledge the money which she gave it to Vshojo and Vshojo didnt pledge any of it so it's Mouse problem. but still fuck the one embezzled the money. I hate mouse but stealing charity money is pure evil
>the way they stay afloat is by having 0 running ost>the ceo does all the dealsWho remembers how much that one person who used to work for Vshojo got paid? I think they were heavily involved in the first auditions.
>>102492876I really doubt he was completely unaware
What is this adhd monkey trying to say with his incoherent mspaint diagram
https://x.com/PiaPiUFO/status/1947495575982903547
This kinda sounds like Pia was in the wings for a debut
Ok hes misinformed about this part
They did this before the subathon
Jesus COnnor is cooking vshojo hard.
HOLY SHIT THEY DUMPED $2 MILLION DOLLARS ON THOSE SUBWAY ADS
I would imagine Vshojo kept that money to fuel project they thought would make the monet back fast.
but what projects has Vshojo done since the subathon?
>>102493034So? why does she need to be in Japan? Streaming is work from home type of job
holy fuck vshojo money go brrrrrr
lmao Connor did his homework
He wanted to do this for a long time
>>102493221that can't be right
>>102491193she is so full of shit
>>102492876i think the outright not giving the charity money nope.
but he knows something was up last year 2024
>>102493212He's explaining the series of events that he believes could have led to the current situation.
Basically, he's illustrating that VShojo has been spending fuckloads of money before they had the capital or regular income to safely do so.
Shit I forgot about those parties
>why advertise the English-speaking company on a Japanese subway station
a few years late but I'm glad we're questioning it now
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>If they sue me then they can pay the charity with the money they get
lmao
>>102491721Imagine vshojo actually trying to be litigious against anyone right now. That would be the biggest shitshow and "fuck you" from the community in history. Like the entire industry would crowdfund those legal fees
>>1024932212mil in yen not in dollars
but yeah it was just wasteful spending at the end of the day
Okay, this is wrong tho
That was before the subathon, and also they were promoting a japanese division
He's setting himself for defamation, not like VShojo would have a winning case, but he's really stupid.
>why the fuck did they advertise primarily English vtubers in Japan
I literally always wondered this, it was cool but what Jap is going to care
>>102493344same jesus expensive
Jesus how much money vshojo burned with useless shit
>>102493221It's like 10k, not 2 million
>>102493236She wanted to move there after feeling unsafe in the US and feeling much safer in Japan.
>>102493332Well the VC money was for that.
Then again there would have multiple ways to do it.
>>102492431Poor Michi trying her best
>>102493388>yenit's nothing then
>>102493358WE'RE BACK, EXCEPT WE ALSO LEFT
>>1024934737 days per pillar
>>102493132It's not embezzlement "yet". If the money is in a VShojo account, whether earmarked as "Mouse donation money" or something like that, and it's all there, then it isn't theft because the money isn't gone. It would still require an explanation as to why it hasn't been paid to the IDF yet, but that's not a crime, just ineptitude. If the money does not exist, or VShojo doesn't have 500k in total liquid resources to deliver, then we have a big problem.
>>102493451seems like they were just desperately flailing to try and raise brand awareness in some fleeting hope that it'd lead to more venture capital flushing in at some point to bail them out
>Nothing you ever do should ever put a talent in jeopardy
That's an interesting way to put it. I feel like that is implying a bit more than what Mouse has said.
>>102493511Nah, she just wanted to be groped in trains
>>102493392>they were promoting a japanese divisionThey weren't, those ads preceded the reveal for VShojo NEXT
He's also not saying that those ads are way this is happening, he's illustrating that VShojo has a history of making very large expenditures, while having relatively low income.
You gotta ad spend somewhere and they got hella mileage from those subway ads, seen those posted many many times
>>102493540WE LEFT THEN WE BACK BUT WE LEFT AGAIN
Connor is the goat and no one can tell otherwise
Connor should just talked about 2024 where it all went to shit involving mouse not the entire VC money.
its literally defamation. The company owns the money that have been given let them be.
>>102493356Didn't they announce Kson and Nazuna shortly after that? It's been a while and I don't really remember.
where's the subathon schizo anyway
>>102493566fair enough, then. i'll say it sure sounds like they've committed some crimes, but we'll know before too long if they have or not, in that case.
>>102492414That would be so based pickrat always struck me as full of it
yo check out that rec I wanna watch that
>>102493612They were done two months prior to VShojo NEXT, they were putting their name there
Also the money would be around 13.5k usd
>>102493589He is heavily implying there are things Mouse can't say that are worse.
>>102493650All it took was the collapse of Vshojo
AN ORCAT HAS HIT THE VSHOJO HEADQUARTERS
https://x.com/shylilytwitch/status/1947505871908409509
>>102493670I also remember it happening around that time
If VShojo was just wasting money like this all the time why did Mouse even renew her contract back in 2023?
So is latina love back???????
>>102493603Wrong, she wanted to do the groping.
>>102493701next speak of the devil
>>102493650Monkesperg in shambles that his fan fictions being destroyed like usual
>>102493727holy shit lmao
>>102493668>defamation It's not defamation, there's multiple articles about Vshojo accepting vc money.
>>102493356My guess, they had vague ideas about wanting to compete with hololive and niji and wanted japanese to find out about the en members. They didn't think about the part where japanese people don't watch en unlike the opposite where holojp had a global audience.
>>102493727>they actually tried to get shilily /in/LMAO
Damn connor making me emotional already
>>102493703>Also the money would be around 13.5k usdFor a single pillar
>>102493727holy fuck it wasnt them being picky, it was just they where so balant with being scum
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>>102493727this explains so much
>>102493868>monke is crying
>>102493589This is probably related to the Kaho thing; the guy spreading around IRL info like an ass.
>>102493860They'd be retarded not to try quite frankly
>>102493765Because they said "Mouse, we'll literally die without you, and we have like 10 other streamers and all their managers to pay (with your merch rev) so please re-sign." and it worked.
>>102493765>Subathon 2024 started october.>Vshojo hires new staff in 2024Anon. it literally start getting shit in 2024. who knows what were the new staffs were doing.
>>102493727business Orca my beloved
>>102493909Just further confirms why vei and Nyan walked.
>>102493909she's farming so much drama this year
bitch better give mouse a cup this year for the viewer boost she gets from this
>>102493873Basically around 100k to 200k (which is still a lot) for the pillars. Also in 2022. People are overlooking this, but they bought a warehouse at the end of 2024, that's more concerning with recent news. There's also the new hires, and more shit.
>>102493868telling people they ain't getting help because of scammers fucking sucks
>>102493727>Their contracts really were shit. I'm sorry Vei. You were right, I was wrong. I should've listened.
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Strange how we’re all back together for this. Kinda like a funeral waiting room
>>102493973nahh if they'll die without her then they deserve to die
>>102493909Is she trying to farm the drama? Regardless of how things ended Michi and Geega signed on and both were very positive on this specific point lol
>>102493727Holy shit! It feels like they literally fucked up recruiting everyone in the space. We thought they were being hyper selective, but instead it was because they were just getting rejected by the talents themselves.
>>102493727Shylily? Miss a chance to milk big drama for her own benefit? Never.
Laughing my ass off imagining the recruitment guy going through this thread, taking every /in/post and trying to make it reality, only to get denied and cry.
yeah Vshojo is actually done.
wrap it up boys.
>>102493727>>102493893>>102493999This all should have been obvious when Vei, Nyan, and Silver left in 2023. They gave clear hints that they weren't happy with the new contracts they were offered.
The question is why did any of other ones still decide to renew their contracts that year anyway? I'm guessing Mouse was guilt tripped into it
>>102493893Earlier I said the well had been poisoned by the first three leavers. I take that back. It turns out Vshojo legal was fucking retarded and anyone with a brain knew better than to join. It explains so much about the auditions now.
>>102493773LETS FUCKING GO
>>102494110Yeah, shit doesn't add up.
>>102494110She absolutely didn't join because of Vei talking shit about her, she's lying lol
>>102494110Well, for Michi, it wasn't hard to get a better deal...
>>102494111I mean, duh
They hired new staff at the literally staff of 2023, they went greedy, 3 left, VShojo panicked and started to recruit everyone in the sun. We know 3 joined anyway.
>>102494090actually true, I left before babegate but at least we can all dance on this grave together
>>102493773WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK
I don't even know who's we anymore.
>>102491320HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>102494065VAW
Vei Always Wins
>>102494199You fags need to apologize to Vei. She was right.
>>102494110Henya too. Michi talked about how they wouldn't even let Henya sign the contract until she got a lawyer to review it. That's 4 instances of lawyers reviewing a contract and coming out positive to Shylily's claim lmao
>>102493727Shit is getting real
>>102494300Ironmouse and Zen are so IN! Vshojobros, I believe!
>>102494344I've never doubted her, I have nothing to apologize for
>>102494110could be they changed the contract after lily, nyan, vei and silver told them it's shit
>>102494090I only care about the girls and Kuro being okay.
>>102494199Supposedly they made the contracts better for the talent that stayed. It's likely that they just didn't offer those same contracts to vtubers they were trying to recruit.
>>102494110>>102494358Remember there's different contracts, not everyone is getting the same deal. Whatever Lily got in 2023 wasn't as good as what she was getting. Orca was literally bigger than Vei at that point, Vei was carried by Soda.
>>102494489If they were going for Shylily chances are it was post-leavers, which is the exact time that Henya and Geega signed on.
>>102494521is yagoo cooked
>>102494344shes sodas cocksleeve SO NO
It makes a lot of sense in retrospect. Haruka and Geega were simply dumb enough to fall for it.
>>102494110This is standard cancellation stuff, anon.
First you get the people who genuinely were affected (Mouse).
Then you get the people who were affected to a lesser extent (unpaid artists).
Then you get the niggas who have nothing to do with it, but they kinda remember one bad interaction so now they present it as them knowing the vibes were off from the start (Lily, random grifters, etc).
I fully expect to get some guy jumping in to let us know that they always hated vshojo because Gunrun was kinda rude to them at one TwitchCon party 3 years ago.
>>102494521I'm just going to post this picture for no particular reason
>>102494344I will never doubt Vei again
>>102494533Minor quibble, but Lily doesn't say anything about 2023. It could have been before that or after that.
>>102494344Where are the streams veirun?
where are you hiding pink hoodie vei?
>>102494533>Vei was carried by Soda.cope
mouse going to drain monkes balls so hard when he visits
>>102494531>dodged a bulletmore like audition loser
>>102494637>I fully expect to get some guy jumping in to let us know that they always hated vshojo because Gunrun was kinda rude to them at one TwitchCon party 3 years ago.check Evanit0's twitter
>>102494521i think it's just a general "be a good person" nonsense because what would she even know about vshojo unless they tried to poach her?
who the fuck actually steals from a fucking charity, shits fucked beyond repair now
>>102490788And you Jerk it to traneys
>>102494344I'm sorry Queen. I was hurt when you left, I said Veibae was dead and Vei killed her, but I just now realize Veibae never left. She was right all along and I should've believed her.
>>102493773I now suspect the Zen unfollow was kind of "tough love" gesture. Geega and Zen leave in support to show Mouse that they'll give without Vshojo and it's not her responsibility to hold the company of her shoulders. Zen wants to give her extra push to leave and pulls a "I'll follow you again when you're out of the company."
>>102494637gunrun touched my pp inappropriately in hot summer of 2020
>>102494533Why the shade thrown as Vei? Seems irrelevant to the rest of your post.
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>>102494533I mean possibly, but it's hard to believe VShojo would upfront throw a better offer at Geega than Shylily.
>>102494670She blew up in early 2022. She was a nobody before then. That's also the year auditions were being worked through so chances are it would've been 2023 or later
https://x.com/shxtou/status/1947481680308277641
>>102494646pink love real
>>102494825good BF monke supporting his rat like usual
>>102494670Her words are recruit.
We know VShojo was hard recruiting on 2023 after the exodus. Thus we got GEEGA, Kuro and Matara, and we were up for more with Amalee, Shoto and Lily.
See the list, all connected and big talents. And this is only those we know.
>>102494531Damn, at least we can say that Panini was doing her job and actually found unknown people like Zen wanted.
Miko update look like they are closing shop yep hope michi get to work herself out of this
guess she was crying after all. that sucks. it should feel like taking a good shit.
>>102494913Geega said she did like 50 revisions of the contract with her lawyer.
>>102494919This and the Lily tweet makes that one random geega collab make so much sense now. Anyone have the image?
30m of rambling to say "pay dbets"
>>102494841Zen really the type to leave the company if she knew Mouse was staying for other's sakes. She don't tolerate shit like that
>>102494919FUCKING EWWWWWWW this dude is a walking SA waiting to happen
>>102494808Gunrun went to close to the sun with the talent freedom. He had good intentions in the beginning with the business model of only getting money through merch, but when the financial struggles built up, he took advantage of the main breadwinner in a desperate attempt to keep the entirety of the org stay afloat.
Michi message on her discord.
>>102494990Yeah but she specified it was to customize it. Doubt she would have even gone to that step if it was full of red flags from the outset lmao. Or renewed since she stayed almost 2 years
>>102495058Geega just loves Korean twinks. I don't think that had anything to do with it but it was funny when she made fun of Shoto for being a virgin
>>102495058geega streams with males? dropped
>>102494913GEEGA got a contract in which she touched more with MSM than VShojo, and was only using VShojo's name. Also, GEEGA is such a nobody in most spaces that giving her a better deal doesn't really make a difference to them
Shylily on the other hand? Has more recognition and A LOT of sales numbers, just her alone could do better than 4 GEEGAs, thus her deal was for one where VShojo could have benefited, but Lily didn't want anything of that.
>>102494978Maiko is a real one. Including Panini in that is really sweet too. Makes me wonder if he is looking for new work or if he can work through Michi/Kuro/etc or something.
No Hotaru stream today https://x.com/AkatsukiDHotaru/status/1947509398278181164
>>102495056He's like one of the most chill male vtubers in the industry
Also almost all of his best friends are women. If he was a sexpest he would've been outed by now
I'm going to say it.
People didn't do their taxes correctly and Vshojo paid for it. Instead of fixing it themselves they left the company and left everyone else to pic up their mess.
>>102490790best in terms of profit, but not in terms of reputation.
I bet you could grift so much money by claiming Vshojo fucked you over. When you misappropriate money from charity, nothing is beyond the pale.
>>102495178If they haven't contacted him already he should just say look I'm willing to continue my work if you hire me on lmao
>>102495056>EWWWWWWWGet out of here women.
>>102495196she woke up and ate lunch today, big if true
Is there any evidence Vshojo didn't pay for the charity?
too many talents out. Vshojo should conduct auditions and plug holes with fresh blood
>>102495117She should distract herself for a bit, community is gonna be fine. Ain't nobody deserved this, poor Michi...
>>102495206it's cause hes attractive
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Will Geega reform girls fc?
So is it safe to assume that gun ran away and is in hiding now?
>>102495414No, but if there was it should have been produced like 6 hours ago so I'm willing to bet there isn't
>>102495206none of this is reassuring
its more like a recipe for a sex pest, same with that faggot vedal
>>102495474Who the fuck would join lmao
Has Vshojo said anything to explain themselves?
>>102495414Mouse's entire reputation is on the line. Weird move if it's not true.
>>102491320Will Nimi be on vegan diet during pregnancy?
This is bad for the baby.
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>>102495263This F pinkrat
>>102495117not to shit on Michi but I will shit on Michi a bit for all those 'I appreciate you' virtue signalings
>I appreciate you all!>I know you're hurting!>but I won't even do low-effort short streams for you though tee-hee>I will collab with others on their channels no problem though tee-hee
>>102495503with blackjack and hookers
>>102495263this repeats with every drama happening
>months prior >regular streams between 2 or 3 people>drama happens>tons of "I've always supported you streamer!!!">"loads of I was fucked over by shit head too >:( ! support streamer :)">*grifter grifts* >drama passes>everyone disperses and never interact with streamers again
Monkesperg in shambles connor doing so much for her rightnow
Connor called Mouse a broke nigga
>We can't even outpost a marriage announcement
Pathetic. Where's your MOTIVATION /xvsj+/
>>102495503She kinda abandoned them after she got in. VShojo is a shithole but geega also seems like a total clout chaser who drops her old friends.
>>102494995>one random geega collab
>>102495544They're trying the "maybe if we ignore it, it will go away" strategy
Is posting acting weird for yall? I guess it’s the traffic
>>102495474By using press gangs?
>>102495656What is the power of a dying org against the might of a million seething unicorns?
>>102495640Mouse is DYING bros!
>>102495196I worry about hotaru personally :/
think they ever approached sinder? lol
>>102495544https://youtu.be/8z_riJgT9RY?si=aLt5FCKGLIPmuImY
>>102495781god novafags are pathetic
>>102495656it's bed time for us, but middle of the day for unicorns
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Fuck this one hurts
This guy made Froot's covers legendary
>>102495712This and the Nimi stuff are breaking the site unironically
>>102495751fauna getting breed and her cucks cant do shit lol
>>102495712>Check 4stats>/vt/ is at 244% normal traffic>I literally got an error while posting thislmao
>>102495712Mouse and Nimi broke 4chan. Similar stuff happened with Saba
>>102495587Just because you're a complete retard who doesn't know how to plan out a vegan diet doesn't mean Nimi is too
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27886704
>>102495823no doubt, but someone like that would probably laugh at the shitty contract
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>>102495658I thought her bat and grape were still kinda close?
well Connor keeps insisting this was "a crime"
what are we "waiting" for again? lawyers hashing things out or actual pending litigation?
I hope the vshojo girls now realize that 3am weren't being drama whores they just had to make things public because of how fucked up the situation was. They should imagine how they'd feel if people ghosted them over speaking up against corrupt organizations.
>>102495959They are, also GEEGA autohosts Girls FC
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Off to bed
I just hope what kson says its something reassuring for the JP future and the NOVA girls are ok
>>102496001Not now Krimbo
>>102495952but not general "I had a successful corporate job and know a bad contract" geega?
>>102494841Zen is following Mouse again! The world is healing!
>>102495959i haven't heard anything on lig about them doing much together, but that doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong. i haven't been steady here in a long time. maybe its a behind the scenes things. i don't like geega, but i do think nina and grape are cute so i hope she hasn't abandoned them.
Here's my read of the situation
>VShojo gets 11M in VC funding
>starts spending money like it's free with VShojo NEXT ads, convention appearances, tech development, animations, etc.
>VShojo continues growing steadily instead of exploding as likely expected
>VCs start asking for a return on their investment
>VShojo pulls dust and paperclips out of their pockets, has to start finding money SOMEWHERE
>you are here
>>102495658Isn't Geega pro Seth?
Ahh I was kind of hoping that playing it irl thing would happen. Oh well.
i need to sleep but i'm still high on drama holy shit it's so late
>>102496095geega is a bullshitter just like piratesoftware
>>102496128Nina abandoned her tits
>>102493909kek such a rude thing to say, I'm gonna assume it's not entirely malicious and just her german autism flaring up
but she's basically calling every chuuba who signed with them retards
>>102496177geega doesn't like to admit when she was wrong, so she'll just doubledown on everything regardless of how bad a look it is. or ignore it and hope people forget. so yes, sorta.
GUYS WHAT IF THE REASON GUNRUN HAS BEEN SULENT FIR SO LONG IS BECAUSE RIKU KILLED HIM AND DISGUISED HIMSELF AS GUNRUN AND THEN STOLE THE CHARITY MONEY FOR ANOTHER YATCH!?
>>102494090we fought, but at the end we belong together.
its so over, and we're so back
>>102496162>>VCs start asking for a return on their investment>>VShojo pulls dust and paperclips out of their pockets, has to start finding money SOMEWHERE>>you are hereTHIS. This is how it ALWAYS happens.
Never work in any org that sells itself to VCs or does an IPO. The forces at work will ALWAYS screw over the people on the bottom. Doesn't matter how nice managers are.
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>>102496069I'm going to bed soon too. I'm hoping for something good from Mel.
>>102496246>her german autismit's exactly what it is lol
>>102496211Drama is gonna be there tomorrow, rest well anon
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Yagoo is fuckin genius, he took out Vshojo from the inside
>>102495888Man that sucks. I fucking love LittleV even outside of his VShojo stuff. I listen to this one all the fucking time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm0igtO6fAk
>>102496069Hoping the JP side can either escape unscathed, or immediately work to form a new org free from anything else. Henya, Mel, and Michi are like the 3 I worry about most from a "what are they going to do without the company" perspective and even then I'm sure Michi would love to just hire Maiko personally.
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>>102493158No need to speculate when it's basically confirmed
>>102496325these news probably hit Mel like a truck
>>102496162That it's most likely what it happened kek
>>102496442Mel needs vshojo to live to have a valid visa in japan, so she's probably shitting bricks
Nimi announcement blew up harder than mouse leaving vshojo jesus her goslings are fucking pissed she going to get impregnated KEK
>>102496416Fuck man, Pia is really talented. She deserves better.
>>102496442Yeah, I know anons were hoping for a change in her twitter bio but knowing her, I'm sure twitter is the furthest thing from her mind right now.
>>102496416I can't imagine there'll be an org to debut in if everyone inside of it is renouncing it. I honestly feel terrible for them too. Debuting in VShojo literally 1 day ago would have made a streaming career overnight lol.
Anyway new thread
>>102496547>>102496547>>102496547
>>102496162it was either start getting google dockeys about how they aren't paying artists and writers and animators and etc.
or take something out of the cookie jar and pray they made it back before mouse noticed
>>102496395>>102495888Oh shit, the've fucked HIM over too? I've been listening to his stuff for years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOLiZ6qAWPk
>>102496381>black company msm was blacklisting many people from 3AM and Mythic Talent>black company msm has talent of the likes of geega and heavenly>blacklist victims admit that the blacklist got "as high as vshojo"
>>102496416i was wondering a while ago why they still hadn't debuted. guess this stuff is why.
>>102496381From the timeline I've seen people talking about, once Seth started spreading rumors about 3am Vshojo suddenly stopped interacting with them and inviting them to little hang outs, and Mouse stopped showing up on Coqui's stream to help for PR charities. Eventually 3am spoke out about Seth/MSM and their corruption/financial scams and MSM crashed and burned, but 3am and Vshojo never mended bridges (probably because 3am was seen as a brand risk due to the false rumors + drama of speaking out against MSM). But now we have ex vshojoers speaking out against vshojo. I hope they aren't treated as poorly for doing the right thing.
>>102496416Pia's a great pick, too. She has lots of potential
>>102496618>ISRAELAINT NO WAY LMAO
>>102495959They collabed a total of around twice since she got into vsj, both monhun collabs. They were much closer and played together lots more in the past.
>>102496231In their mind they are not bullshiting
>>102495823100% she saw their contact, laughed at it and said "the contract is not bad enough for me to join"
>>102497036thats one of the worst parts of it. she could be here seeing people talking about her and just think we're full of shit or something, like we haven't dealt with people like her for 20 years now.
>>102494184>...going through this thread, taking every /in/post and trying to make it reality, only to get denied and cry.Thank god they never convinced Geega.
I was always the one /in/posting about her, but now I'm glad she was smart and passed.
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