kson going nuclear

>>102523713 (OP)
>Cons: None
lol
lmao

>>102523713 (OP)
uh oh melty

>>102523807
here's the pic bro

>>102523713 (OP)
she seems like a good, but very naive person

>>102523841
how it started
>>102523713 (OP)
how it's going

>>102523713 (OP)
She coped with her mistake when Nyanners and her 2 friends left the company, but now that Mousey's charity money got stolen, that was her final straw

Hope she didn't start being schizo and think unreasonably. Kanata please come check on her now

>>102523713 (OP)
>is real
>she's getting clowned on the comments
lmao
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1326355021093498880

The stream was pretty funny.

>>102523841
Someone archive that stream immediately. I have a feeling she will remove it. Don't let it become lost media

>>102523713 (OP)
Poor girl, she's kinda stupid but she's a pure heart

>>102523928
To be fair Nyanners is a bitch

Next Chapters: going for Onlyfans only to find out there's only niggers!!

>>102523713 (OP)
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1656226203576188931
Karma comes for everyone.

>>102523713 (OP)
I respect that. She admitted to being wrong.

>>102523933
wtf is this bug? making your link open to pic related

>>102523713 (OP)
>TALENT FREEDOM
>PROS: LEGAL SUPPORT
>CONS: NONE

>>102523713 (OP)
Understandable after she dissed Niji's 2%
In a hindsight at least the Nijis got paid

>>102524061
nijixisters aren't even hiding it anymore i see

>>102524061
man...

>>102523713 (OP)
Link to tweet in the OP: https://x.com/ksononair/status/1947661332524028139

>>102524061
How is that karma?

>>102523713 (OP)
shes acting like she wasnt bribed for that shit now back when they had that 11$ investment money huh

>>102524135
You think 2% is low? How about 0%?

>>102523713 (OP)
I just feel bad for her. She really believed in these guys.

>>102523713 (OP)
isnt this hag a literal whore?

>>102524185
Imagine being treated worse than nijis. This is way too fucking funny.

>>102524135
lol

>>102523713 (OP)
Has she not been defending vshojo and convincing others to join in the past year, even after they stopped paying her? Disgusting behaviour.

>>102523713 (OP)
THERE is the bold truth teller I missed from long ago!

Yeah, she's done with agencies. She always was (and always will be) an optimist that wants to believe people are good, and that those who are doing wrong will eventually correct. Giving people chances even when they don't deserve them. Part of why I respect her, it's also why she gets hurt.

>>102524135
>Spread 2% rrat
>Never bring up it being fake as shit
>Lose all her money
God works in mysterious ways

I honestly feel bad for all of them, her especially.
She really wanted this to work out. She really wanted to help people.
She was always the person who tried to get people to work together, bring projects together, even at the expense of her own fucking health AND financial health in some cases.
To see this happen is pretty shit man. It really is.

I love this bitch, and she's still going to shine long after this.
Kick their asses, Kson.

>trusting a company started by a literal whore

So what was her last stream about? Her shitting on vshojo, defending it or being confused? Since from the thumbnail I thought she was doing PR for the company like how those 3 or 4 niji members did when Selen left

>>102524076
Only the number matters you can change the name

>>102524284
It IS true that nijis only get 0-3% cut of their merch sales. Even Kazuha, their biggest talent, confirmed it. However they get proper 35% from superchats/memberships like Hololive, some unspecifiied much better cut from streamlabs donations and the proper 50% cut from voice packs which are the things shitposters tend to ignore.

>>102524267
reminds me of picrel

>>102524348
some of zerokisei did porn, calm your tits

>>102523713 (OP)
>>102523933
Holy shit, reactor 4 is melting down over there. How does it feel, Kekson? How does it feel looking this stupid and knowing it's entirely self-inflicted?

>corpos
uh oh Holokeks this statement is incriminating your corpo

>>102523713 (OP)
Are we supposed to believe that the most vocal and involved Vshojo JP member was completely unaware of what's happening? The one that always try to portray herself as the leader of vtubing and most important person in the industry?
This bitch deserve to be humbled down.

>>102523841
>no cons... BASED
imagine being that guy now

>>102524284
Seethe sister she can still buy out your entire family tree

>>102524426
>Even Kazuha, their biggest talent, confirmed it.
Never happened considering Mysta, who started that shit, outright said he "exaggerated it for views". Contract outright said it's dependent on the merch

>>102524504
I will say that after what she went through towards the end of Coco, not much else can really come close. Strong lady remains strong BUT also learned from past experiences when she needs to just walk away.

>>102524561
She was aware of always having delayed payments and not getting a single cent in past ten months.

>>102523713 (OP)
>cons: nothing
anyone who is willing to engage in such unhinged levels of glazing deserves to get scammed

>>102523713 (OP)
I won't completely respect her for it, because I firmly believe she'd double down on the dicksucking if there were even the slightest chance that the accusations were false, but I do think a little better of her for admitting it.

>>102524585
Yes, he exaggerated it for views, by only focusing on 2% and not talking about other income sources.
I didn't even mention sponsorships because they have unspecified cuts and can differ a lot.

>>102524267
>Yeah, she's done with agencies
Bullshit

>>102524701
>by only focusing on 2%
Deranged dramatranny doesn't know when to quit

>>102524532
>be retard
>”uh, 50%? That’s basically slavery!”
>join le ebin talent freedom group
>earn 0%, your last pay check was in September

>>102523713 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHA

>>102523713 (OP)
Man, vtubing sucks now.
I only got into this shit to deny reality, not hear about horrible quasi-jew corporations and marriages and depression.

>>102524583
Sure she can with that 0% income kek

>>102524284
2% is true, and she’s richer than your sorry ass ever will be. God truly does work in mysterious ways

>>102524513
Nta but names/links?

>>102524899
>My headcanon is true and you can hire her to be your personal maid because of how broke she is
FTFY

I didn't understand how the JP _CEO_ got away with saying he couldn't do anything and that no one was to blame, it was all just "mismanagement". If you have what I assume is over a million dollars unpaid to talents/charity that simply cannot be a mistake. And why didn't she grill that fucker on whether or not he's still in contact with Gunrun? I almost feel like the stream was planned damage control and he somehow duped Kson into it, maybe by promising to pay some of her money back.

>>102524383
She basically gave them a chance to explain themselves, but all she got was a bunch of empty platitudes and non-answers, and she more or less quit on the spot.

>>102524780
I was around when Kizuna AI had a few vids up and it was fun, now I kinda stopped watching vtubers all together because of the awful culture and fandom around it and how fucking evil the companies or even the vtubers themselves can be. I am only here because I heard what happened and I just hope Vshojo goes under but also the people affected gets paid.

I genuinely pray that she is feeling at the worst in her life right now, so much so that she leaves this world finally

>>102523841
kek

>>102525070
jej

>>102525031
Damn, that's sad

>>102523928
Anon, not only Mouse's charity money got stolen, she said that she wasn't paid since september of last year. And probably nobody else got paid either.

what is it with people lying about watching kizuna AI lol

>>102524504
>says she won't get involved with negative people
>ends up spending even more time with Miguel over the next two yeras
What exactly was she thinking? Did it really take Guutara telling her that Mike was retarded for her to finally realise?

>>102525020
>And why didn't she grill that fucker on whether or not he's still in contact with Gunrun?
No one is in contact with gunrun, and no one has been for months. Its not worth wasting breath on. The company has been running without him.

>>102523982
link?

>>102523713 (OP)
good,good. We're a step closer to her inevitable JAV arc to pay debts

>>102525070
People keep posting this but isn't this tweet her literally saying she was a fucking dumbass for saying it?
Better that she admits it than pretending it never happened

>>102523713 (OP)
Should have just toughed it out at hololive

>>102525198
Why do you think I am lying?

>>102525068
Tone it down zhang. You bugmen still aren't welcome here.

>>102523713 (OP)
She shouldn't have left hololive. Dumb bitch.

>>102525329
Same problems, different flavor.
It's all a scam at this point.

>>102525020
wasn't JP ceo but more like a general manger

>>102525273
She admits it after the company went nuclear, not when they didn't pay her for over 9 months and every other previous yab.
It's good that she finally realized her hypocrisy, but it's a little too late.

>>102525205
It's like a wife of abusive husband. She always gives in to the hope.

It's not too late, we could be great again...

>>102525407
Hololive can do no wrong

>>102525460
As we learned today from al lthe morons hired by vshojo to do art, music etc. it's really common in vtuber community to do fucking nothing about not being paid for months.
Same with all the artists hired by Niji two years ago that only got money from Selen after she learned Niji wasn't paying.

>>102523713 (OP)
>me me me
She still hasn't apologized for what she said, which caused more people to join VShojo and get scammed.

>>102525020
Loutlot is in charge of the JP branch, but all the money flows to the EN side and then back to JP so he has no real control.

Dude knows the company is fucked and he's getting fired any day now, so all he said is that it's not his fault and he'll try and fiddle with contracts to make it easier for the talents under him before the end.

>>102525205
I love Guutara so much, also she's been uploading a lot recently...not sure how I feel about that...

>>102525460
How is it hypocrisy?

>>102525597
She actually did apologize for that on stream.

>>102525273
I'm going to explain the joke
It says Cons: Long, as in, for years, Kson's gullible ass was jannying for the darkest, most gorillablack company in the entire industry, and apparently only realized after not getting paid for most of a year

>>102523713 (OP)
CONS


NONE

>>102524061
Heh suck shit Vshojo
You should have been like other company that doesn't pay their talents

>>102525068
This is your future Zhang

>>102523713 (OP)
I thought she enjoyed being free?
Lol

>>102523713 (OP)
Isn't she like too old for this?

>>102525407
That’s a way of looking at it, but as the saying goes:
>better the devil you do know than the devil you don’t
Having limits isn’t always a bad thing, but I do think the struggle box was fucked up.

>>102525867
She stopped developing the moment she started vtubing.

>>102523841
Kson was naive but she really wanted to believe she had found a CEO that wanted to make a better vtuber company than Hololive. Actually is somewhat amusing that Phase Connect somehow has the best CEO in the EN market.

>>102523807
>>102524669
>>102525070
>>102525704
>cons: nothing
Explain to me rationally why this random personal opinion said two years ago lives rent free in your head. Go on

Cons to leaving Vshojo: NONE

>>102523713 (OP)
I still never got why she didn't just start up her own corpo back then when she already was successful as indie.

>>102525867
vtubers don't age

>>102523841
What a fucking dumbass lmao. Deserved desu.

>>102525646
>This nigga thinks /vt/ watches streams
lol, lmao even

>>102523841
>>102523807
>>102524079
That was 4 years ago at that time everything was fine, the payments stopped coming in September of last year.
I know that retarded people do not calculate the concept of time well but imagine what happened at the time you had your last bath.

>>102525995
>two
3

>>102525995
Because it's funny to meme on in the moment. Don't take it so seriously.

Why wouldn't she wipe her own ass?

>>102525995
/#/pygmies don't watch streams and think that stream was some type of advertisement for vshojo, when she was actually explaining her own rationale for why she joined

>>102526082
bro ain't no way you're getting between drama and drama sharks

>>102525303
anon, coco was sponsor poison, Hololive would've unironically died if she never left, so she either saw how her friends' dreams were crashing or got fired and she understood why.

>>102524135
Does this imply Holos get a 50/50 deal for merch? That sounds unrealistically high.

>>102525588
>Still pretending Nijisanji had to pay for Selen's video in a vshoujo burial thread
Nijisanji derangement syndrome

>>102525931
Everyone faking sucking up to sakana so it’s just in due time that he gets outted as a piece of shit too. Everyone was just trying to make their own Yagoo when that came organically

>>102526028
because they rolled up a truck of money to her
she abandoned her original plans because of the huge offer they gave her
which makes her complaining that it's all about the money a little awkward

Karma is a bitch, huh, kekson?

>>102523982
20220704 い っ た い な に が し た い ん だ 総 長Q&A (Zl9yK4TUBHw)
https://gofile.io/d/6FBqke

>>102526141
For birthday/anniversary merch, it should be around that, yes.
For other merch, varies a lot.
For token acrylic stands most likely only a small cut.
For shit like keychains, very likely it's nothing.

>>102525626
NTA but
>talents not being paid
>talents knowing how much money they make
>they tank it for months
>the golden goose speaks up
>Now it suddenly is le bad for the others too
when you have MONTHS, even 1 MONTH without pay you lawyer up, but since these bitches still get enough to have comfortable lives then they didn't see the need to yet.

>>102526207
just like your alcoholic prostitute mother, mudasir

>>102526082
Are you really saying that investor money drying up a few years in so they stop paying their talents and steal half a million from charity isnt a con?

>>102524738
Why? What do agencies even offer?
I keep telling you all there is no real incentive to include these parasitic middle men. Vtubing is catching up to the rest of internet media. Holo and Niji are the only corpos that legitimately offer an entertainment product beyond the scope of what can be accomplished independently, and even then only one seems to adequately compensate and look after their talents.
It's MACHINIMA again. It's MAKER again. Stop falling for this shit.

>>102526247
Hmmm. I guess it could be possible for low-volume limited merch.

>>102523713 (OP)
>as long as I can grope boobies I am happy

>>102526135
Yeah remember how many people cut ties with SEGA over putting her in Yakuza?
Oh wait it was just chinkcels and not real people and they became more successful than ever

>>102526082
Ah shit the Vshojo interns been coming here since yesterday, I guess they haven’t realized their corpo is cooked and their won’t be future payments.

Dooby and saba, now would be a great time to introduce your corpo

>>102523713 (OP)
Stupid bitch lmao

>>102526366
This just tells me you just watched a video about the taiwan thing and never saw sponsors leaving hololive left and right, fucking lurk more you piece of trash.

btw Chinese Taipei belongs to China.

>>102524076
holy fucking newfag

>>102526621
True but I like Coco she didn't do shit

>>102526383
id laugh at your ESL, but i have an inkling you are American...

GLORY TO THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA

TALENT

FREEDOM

>>102525568
Come home, Coco. We've got Italians now.

>>102525995
>>102526082
because it's one of those statements that will either age neutrally or extremely badly and that's predicated entirely on how well vshojo does, and it's absolutely hilarious how kson is willing to stick her neck out so far for vshojo when she barely even joined, and now that it actually did age like milk it's funny to bring it back up

Do you also get assmad over the talent freedom posts that've been popping up the entire day?

>>102526535
and a ching chong fang fang ping ping to you too

If only someone had told her Vshojo was bad and she shouldnt join
If only a single person had ever said that to her
Oh wait they did and she got mad at them for saying it

>>102525020
>planned damage control
That's exactly what kson would do as soon as she saw shit unfolding, protect herself and the possibility of her getting her paycheck ASAP. Which is fair, thats what any person should do when their job and income is literally imploding faster than a star going supernova. People shouldn't paint it any other way. People should also not paint kson in a magnanimous light when all she's doing is protecting herself in the moment.
Also doing this live on air is like breaking up with someone in public so if there's any outbursts you have witnesses to help or protect you. Pretty clever.

>>102524284
2% was sourced from Mysta. You sisters should stop trying to salvage your reputation. You protect a sexpest.

>>102525407
Hololive is a different beast. They will fuck with your projects and isolate you if upper management dislikes you. However, they won't scam you out of pay for months.

>>102526535
kson had a collab with intel like 2 months after leaving
they have 12000 employees in china

>>102526621

Kson it's time to come home.

Kson won't be sad for long. She can call up her JAV/Fantia girlies and have comforting lesbian sex as much as she wants, whenever she wants.

>>102523841

>>102526621
"Taiwan" (RoC) is the real china

It's not much related, but initially I was a Pikamee fan and I thought that Henya and her new character was shit. I think it's karma. The creepy penguin is a Chad.

Kek I watched the clip, she literally fell for the most basic salary stalling trap, and she's still in the company acting like it was a strategic decision.
What a dumb middle aged woman

>>102527052
Not without the money to pay those hookers

>>102523713 (OP)
generational crash out

>>102525205
I had a couple of friends who became scumbags. One of them snapped out of it eventually and became a better person. One did not and I finally had to cut him off.

If you are really someone's friend, you don't bail at the first sign if trouble, but you shouldn't be a sucker either and stay around people who are imploding long-term. You just drag yourself down with them.

>>102526941
>2% was sourced from Mysta
lol
>You protect a sexpest.
Do you want to talk about groombullet or Mel's manager?

>>102523713 (OP)
Leaving Holo really did destroy her mind.

>>102523713 (OP)
Is it true she quit while on stream with the CEO?

Who in their right mind stays with an agency that hasn't been paying out for nearly a year? I'd be gone the moment the payments stop.

>>102523713 (OP)
>This company will be way different
We need a Sonch "fell for it again" meme image right now!

>>102527340
Yes, but does it even matter? All it looks like is performative theatrics, she has to quit regardless. It would have meant something if it happened months earlier and kson was the one who spoke up first.

>>102527340
The head of the Japanese branch, but she said she had basically already made the choice.
No one seems to know where the fuck the CEO is.

Why does the agency receive the talents' money first? I thought they were just an agency that sends invoices to talents and collects the money
Then what is the difference between vshojo and corps?

>>102525611
I'm sure he's still getting paid
less but still paid
labor laws is real unfortunately it doesn't cover contractors

>>102523713 (OP)
Her creative freedom was being a nobody whore. Should’ve stayed in Hololive OR kissed more of her hot friends on cam (and show ass and feet and legs.)

>>102527501
He gunran

>>102527506
>Then what is the difference between vshojo and corps?
Advertising strategy

>>102526967
>>102526853
Alright, I get it, you 2 fags think I'm defending pooh.
Let me educate you newfags about the taiwan thing since I was there when it all happened
>Coco does the funny
>chinks mad
>coco goes on hiatus
>chink branch of hololive stabs her
>they get axed
>coco returns
>chat is filled with chinese bots
>everywhere she goes her coworker's chats are filled with bots
>chinks MASS SPAM calls to sponsors to drop them
>at that time, which is many years ago, chink money was the dream of every corporation
>''IF THE CHINESE DOESN'T LIKE YOU!! THEN I DON'T EITHER!!'' - Mickey mouse
>that was how companies saw hololive like and they pulled out
>the most blalant was ASUS who sucked chinese dick the hardest as if shitting on Hololive was gonna give them more money
You can search for more, but as you can see with the current Vshojo situation, you need more than the talent's paycheck to run a company.

>>102527506
branding to fool retards. that plus IP belonging to the creator.
and they only recruited already top vtubers not fresh new ones.
so these dumb girls paid their way to work for vshojo KEK

why is okay for noel and fatsuri to do whore content on the side

>>102527589
God I loved those streams.

>>102523713 (OP)
>>102523841
That's why I don't vouch for people anymore, I ain't got no crystal ball

>>102527623
that sounds like hololive is the issue and not coco, considering she could get collabs with intel and world of warships a few months after leaving

>>102527662
Intern-kun..... ganbare

So if I'm understanding this, Gunrun has just up and vanished and no one at vshojo is getting paid right now?

>>102526192
Nah. Everyone knows he's a piece of shit.
But somehow everyone else is even worse.

>>102527662
Because they keep it separate from the chuuba gig

>>102527804
After collecting like 500k in charity and then not paying it to the charity.

Speak of which
https://youtu.be/k0Z3uPdj3Bk

>>102525995
Because after one makes a statement that statement has to be true from then on and forever, cause everybody knows time doesn't move and the world stands still duh

hahahaha

>>102527841
This makes me want to start an agency.

China won
America lost

>>102526192
Everyone already knows that Sakana is an asshole though. His own talents shit talk him all the time. He's just the autistic idiot kind of asshole so it never amounts to more than shitposting in the company discord or sending a fake termination email as prank.

>>102527881
The 500k is merely a fraction of what he stole if all talents weren't paid since September, the way kson was treated. She said she herself lost ferrari amount of money.

>>102527732
Sponsors always come out of the woodwork in droves whenever there's huge drama around a talent leaving a corpo, and then they leave after one or two months when the drama has subsided. Remember how Dokibird was getting sponsors everywhere right after her return?

>>102524061
>wants better treatment for other talent
>you deserve to be cheated for this
Man Indian people really have no soul.

>>102527841

>>102527925
Maybe don't make absolutely retarded statements that even at the time weren't true. People were dunking on her for that shit even back then.

>>102527732
Yes, because they gave up once coco was done, that's what they wanted, coco gone because she was american, once that happened sponsors came back, not instantly of course but the chink menace left after a while, they were spamming fubuki for standing with her.

I'm sure she will learn this time and in the future she will be more careful what sort of people she trusts and makes sacrifices for.

right?

>>102528137
man fuck off with your SEAwhores
enjoy your aids lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCcquTb0rRA

>>102526621
Based

>>102525995
>lives rent free in your head
My guy, she was the one coping

>>102523853
So there's a chance she might marry me?

>>102527804
Basically, yeah.

>>102523841
https://youtu.be/Zl9yK4TUBHw?t=3610

>>102528187
when you're in the safe bubble that is vtubing you rarely grow if everything you want to do is just stream on your own or with some peeps, you get praised for everything, even if it's shit.

Yagoo won

>>102525303
Coco can still come back to holo its a matter of her pride though accepting yagoo's offer to come back would be a hard pill to shallow but i guess pekora would be happy to see her back

>>102527904
thanks bro

>>102528187
CLAP
CLAP
NEXT MEME

Oh, swell. She’s going to be even more insufferable now that she has a martyr complex.

>>102524513
>zerokisei
Gen 0 isn't actually a gen, newfag-chama

>>102523841
KEKAROO

>>102528315
It would be funny if Coco became the first vtuber to straight up rejoin her old corpo.

>>102528426
> biggest graduation
> biggest redebut
full circle, excellent writing, pure kino

W-...where's my money... bitch. Bitch, where's... WHERE'S MY MONEY, BITCH?

Kson, I'm begging you, make your own fucking group.
It doesn't even need to be a small corpo. You could just start with a small unit, like what Ruka did.

This is why the co-founder left back in May. He knew the was sinking and they had no money to pay anyone. He left before it sank. Likely taking a big paycheck too before anything came to light.

https://www.siliconera.com/vshojo-co-founder-leaves-vtuber-company/

>>102527732
>>102527623
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banishment_room
Cover definitely ignored her on purpose so she’d leave on her own. I still wonder why they didn’t just assign tons of staff member as a mod to ban those chinx spammers back then but I guess it makes sense if they didn’t want to deal with backlash from chinx 24/7

kson had a black boyfriend

https://x.com/ksononair/status/1656226203576188931?s=19
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1656226203576188931?s=19
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHAHAAHZHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

>>102528426
wouldn't be the first

It's quite funny to know that someone who wasted no time to jump on clowning Nijisanji for being some black corpo just put up with not being paid for a whole fucking year, I wonder how many more people who love throwing shit like that are also being anally raped by the corpo they defend

>>102528506
She can’t sing or dance.

So, it's Kson going to create her own company like she said she was going to do after leaving Cover?

>>102528848
This is literally every ex Niji that was poached by vshoujo plus Sayu's scam corpo. I guess all that's left is for the implosion of glitchstars

>Bootlicking this clown western company
>Get paid nothing in the West
>Being blocked by a lot of VTubers in Japan

>>102528534
>I still wonder why they didn’t just assign tons of staff member as a mod to ban those chinx spammers back then
This was way before Cover hired more people to to try and make things run more smoothly, and everything was basically ran by a handful of people.

>>102528426
>>Funny
It would break the vtuber sphere. Gura's graduation was already a non-event because It was obvious se would be back. Imagine if they could come back after two or there years.
Not gonna happen.

>>102528890
she'd go broke in a year

>suck off corp
>oh no I got humbled

Hopefully this'll break her into starting a fansly already

>>102528890
>Kson
>Good with money
>Good business sense

Good luck.

>>102528890
The logistics of starting a vtuber corporation is straight up financially unsound in 2025

>>102528890
The only one I can see trying that is Zen and that'd still be more than he can chew

>>102528523
Ruka is based and genuinely had reason to do her own thing, Kson was just short-sighted wannabe martyr. Its not going to work.

>>102528890
Good idea, go from being scammed to being the scammer

>>102525995
Its written like a punchline and everything

>>102525995
It was stupid to say the moment she said it to anyone with a brain, this just makes it more funny

>>102529232
It only worked back in 2020-ish because people trapped at home was boosting views and there was so much venture capital floating around tech that vtubing was just tech-related enough to cash in on it. When a lot of the capital dried up and moved onto the next thing is when you saw a bunch of those vtubing companies suddenly shut down. What we're seeing happen with VShojo is just the drawn out tail end of that.

So what are the odds the talents end up sueing and retaining the rights to their models and stuff?

ARE YOU READY TO APOROGIZE?

>>102529552
They already have the rights to their models. It was literally one of the main selling points of joining the company.

>>102526253
kek that was a good one anon

Time to milk your viewers money by doing weird shit on stream with your irl body now i guess

>>102529597

>>102529626
I thought she had shifted to being a fleshtuber a long while ago

>>102529612
Ah fair, should still sue them for everything they got though imo

>>102529135
Many such cases

What makes me so sad is that people really only rag on Kson now for trying to be a good force. She made so many mistakes out of a place of pure heart and people rag on her for it now. I'm not saying she's the Mr. Rogers of the Vtubing community, but the amount of hate and ridicule you guys give to her is insane - what did she do to deserve it?
If Chinese antis weren't thin-shelled bugs she would've never had to leave Hololive. When did the narrative turn on her so much that some people unironically route for the Chinese antis and make fun of her now?

>>102529913
A lot of people called this out literally years ago and they got called names by her. It's natural they will feel schadenfreude and laugh at her now

>>102529913
>what did she do to deserve it?

She left hololive. Everyone who leaves hololive gets a crazy amount of hate here.

>>102529913
Hahahahahahava

>>102529913
Nah, fuck her, someone so eager to go shitting on other corpos while glazing the one she was in while at the same time not even being paid deserves to suffer for being such a shameless bootlicker

>>102525568
She won't come back, Cover has been making business with chinks again.

Any fucking drama. kson is linked to every single drama in this industry. How she does it?

>>102523713 (OP)
Can't blame the chinks for this one huh?

>>102529913
>What did she do to deserve it?
Most wouldn't have given two shit, until she joined and shilled Vshojo like the second coming.
She got exactly what she deserved. She practically begged for it.

>>102529913
She's either retarded or actively malicious for shilling a company that doesn't even pay her

>>102529913
>what did she do to deserve it?
Made millions of /pol/roaches get into vtubing with her spergout and never telling her army to stop that shit.

Kson tried to save rushia after the Hololive debacle and for that she has my eternal respect.

>>102529626
Sadly Kson said she will never do porn while her father is alive because it would make him sad, implied thats the only reason stopping her

I like Kson

>>102530030
Which is incredibly fucked up because she would've stayed in Hololive if a certain group of CCP kowtowers didn't threaten the safety of her and other Holomems over an analytics stream THEY were responsible for using Taiwanese VPNs. Did people fucking forget why Coco left to begin with?

>>102528633
no she didnt lmao

>>102530289
And that's a good reason.

>>102523841
they all got conned into an org? picked up when theyre vulnerable?

>>102529913
She deserves it

>>102529913
>what did she do to deserve it?
Bring in westerners into cover

>>102530315
She left primarily to do content she couldn't in Homolive.

Coco ruined vtubing. I'm as happy as I can be watching this go down.

coco comes back to hololive
first ever rebirth after graduation...
Kino...

>>102530315
Because she was influenced by Western people and wanted more freedom instead of being a pushover like nip girls are

>>102523807
fpbp
>>102523841
tpbp
>>102523927
/thread

>>102529913
Vshojo’s ambition led to this funny shit situation, beginning with her joining and aggressively promoting them to attract others. I wouldn’t be surprised if they even used dirty methods to put others down, spreading drama and fake rrats to get people to join their company

>>102530030
Everyone defended her after leaving Holo united by their hatred for the chinks harassing her. It was the moment that she joined Vshojo after saying she'd stay indie that people's opinion of her soured and every misstep after that turned into hate.

>>102530259
She did not save her by taking her out back and putting her out of her misery and for that I cast a plague upon her house.

>>102525995
If /vt/ can only repeat one joke, that means the chuba is likeable & they just have nothing else to use.
See Peo.

>>102528852
when has that stopped anyone?

kson normalized 3dpd streaming for indies in Japan and I will never forgive her for that

>>102530170
Maybe I read too much into this but didn't Kson join VShojo with Nazuna to be a good friend and help her?
She was really alright as an Indie until Rushia got murdered and roasted on an open fire, then suddenly debuted as part of VShojo JP with her. I always assumed spoke so well of VShojo in the past because she made the decision to try and help both Rushia, her fanbase and Kson's own fanbase to move forward from Hololive and be optimistic in a new corporation. Kson is naive as fuck, but I don't see why this is a bad thing when she's not in the wrong for trying to see the good and doing good. She didn't rag on Hololive, she parted ways when the company couldn't guarantee the safety of her and her co-idols over an issue that was far outside of the scope of Cover's own competence at the time. This is literally why they partnered up with anti-defamation initiatives after the fact - so why is Kson the villain and the 'traitor'? You can hate VShojo and still acknowledge that she's being riddled full of bullets for no good reason.

>>102523928
>Mousey's charity money got stolen
IronLung stole her own money?
expected

>>102530610
>after saying she'd stay indie
literally never happened outside of /#/pygmy diseased brains

>>102530247
>/pol/ roaches
lmao, what the fuck is this cope. You dont even speak Japanese.

>>102526141
>>102526247
>>102526345
50% of final profit yes i would believe it,

China was right bros...

>>102530510
>2026 holofes
>All members start singing but suddenly all lights go off
>Orange color
>GMMF out nowhere
I would cry

>>102523713 (OP)
Imagine throwing your old corpo under the bus to gas a real nigger corpo, she's not trusting anyone again lmao
This is somehow the fault of chinks.

>>102530739
the person you are replying to is not a hololive fan
he is a /pol/ tourist

>>102527623
>>102528534
huh didn't they leave china's market? for Coco and focused on USA?
i still remember there a california HQ
looks like hiring mutts was the nail that killed homolive

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>>102529038
>Gura's graduation was already a non-event because It was obvious se would be back.
Almost half of Saba's channel is about her & Dooby. The only way to get Gura back is by luring her with Ame. And I'm not saying Ame can't go back, but she's so random & stubborn, it's easier just to clone her from all the hairs Holo EN collected & treasured.

>>102530739
I'm pretty sure she said at one point that her decision to join Vshojo was her own and not just because Nazzy joined but I'd have to hunt for that
I definitely remember she made a point about how Rushia didn't join Vshojo because Kson told her to at least which seemed like a half-truth to me honestly because where the fuck would she get the idea to join this at the time English-only corpo and at th same time as Kson and whine since day 1 about not knowing English

>>102529913
>She made so many mistakes out of a place of pure heart
Nah, she was smugly trying to be chuuba Jesus. She deserves to get a reality check.

>>102530739
No, she made it very clear that she and Michael joining Vshojo is unrelated to each other. Whether it was true or not it doesn't matter, she never used that as the justification for acting retarded.

Didn't Shibuya Kaho talk on Twitter about a certain person that was hired into Vshojo and that person is a piece of shit that is only for the money.

>>102528534
this is wrong is so many levels, she didn't get banishment room'd, she willingly left herself out of most collabs, the only thing she couldn't do were Hololive official channel collabs or Hologra.
>surprise collab with flare where she tells chinks to fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7njT1nzLi6Q
A a streamer coco knows that locking your chat up is pretty disheartening, a banishment room treatment would've been impossible because that would mean a hiatus until you die in her case

>Shilling hard for the company that invests nothing, 3D? No. Real concert? No. No music, no significant collaboration. They just let you leech the name.

Remember when Kson was shittalking Nijisanji's 2%?

>>102529913
She is literally a CIA whore that is trying to start WWIII.
She undermined the one China policy repeatedly. She sends funds to Ukraine. Her handlers literally have her do this to prepare for war so Nancy Pelosi and all the other Jews with stock in Raytheon make more money.

Just come back BITCH, would you rather follow rules and stream without drama, or be "free" while being in the drama?

>>102530030
Coco is nothing like any of those other examples because this board will go hardcore defense mode to anyone who even remotely criticizes Coco but everyone thinks Kson is a joke. In the case of all the other ex-Holos, nobody defends one half and criticizes the other.

>>102531441
>only for the money
The only part I remember was that she implied that the guy wanted to get her alone in a room with him

>>102527623
>at that time, which is many years ago, chink money was the dream of every corporation
alright but it's 2025 now and anyone who isnt a retard realizes that was all a lie

>102528137
>102528235
I think the brownbots are getting confused

This shit feels so performative. Mousey drops her accusation then everyone acts surprised, quits within a day and throws out accusations themselves. Like, if you weren't paid since fucking September, why are you just now making a stink about it? Feels more like rats fleeing a sinking ship while trying to cover their own ass. No way she didn't know what was going on.

dumb bitch leaves the better choice.
get cucked by new corpo.
u love to see it.
Holo atleast would have payed her on time every month. U get what u deserve.

Who's even left? Is Henya still in?

SHAME ON YOU COCO

>>102531032
I am glad Coco retired and Kson is suffering

>>102531842
nobody is left bro it's over

>>102530477
Yeah, like showing her ass
>She did it for free
lol, lmao even

>>102531842
Yeah, but she’s got an announcement stream later so she’s almost certainly about to be out.

>>102528983
>Being blocked by a lot of VTubers in Japan
And other lies nijizhangs tell themselves

>>102531824
They were all stuck in a sunk cost fallacy. With the accusations out in the public there's no sense in hoping things will get better now.

>>102529913
>What makes me so sad is that people really only rag on Kson now for trying to be a good force. She made so many mistakes out of a place of pure heart and people rag on her for it now
Good force? Pure heart? Shut the fuck up you pussy. She only does and says whatever makes her look better or improves her image. That's all she cares about; deluding herself and others into thinking she's some kind of vtubing messiah and whatever can propagate that image when all it is is delusions of grandeur. She doesn't give a fuck beyond that.
Case in point; she shat all over other corpos while praising the one she was in because if she chose to join Vshojo then of course it's 100% a good and decent company! Now look at how that turned out and anons were saying this shit was gonna happen all the way back then too and that she was full of shit. And they were right. Again. All she's doing now is saving face.
>but the amount of hate and ridicule you guys give to her is insane - what did she do to deserve it?
Nah, it's deserved. All of it. She got a reality check and that's that.

>>102531842
Some JP 2views are probably still there.

>>102529913
I always found her voice annoying and her content obnoxious in Hololive. It was only because her detractors were so comically awful that supporting her was a no-brainer then. After she joined a different, equally annoying and obnoxious corpo, I could ignore her with all the ambivalence I wanted to originally. I've done that all the way to this point, where I'm just now finding out about this Vshojo/IronMouse disaster. Might as well get a few laughs in, then go right back to ignoring them.

>>102523713 (OP)
Kson hasn't done anything wrong besides trusting these pieces of shit. Probably the last person in the western vtubing space that deserves to be clowned on

>>102531842
List of talents that have removed Vshojo from their names:
-Froot
-Kson
-Michi Mochievee
-AmaLee
-K9_Kuro
-Henya
-Hime
-Hakura Karibu
-Project Melody

>>102532036
Yes blocked by a lot so she switched to fleshtuber shit

>>102532164
Nijilies

>>102529913
She was removed from Holo. People meme, but there really is some kind of superiority thing going on where some of these autistic faggots take it way too far.

>>102532126
wew lad it is giga over

>>102532202
gonna cry?

>>102528426
If it happens, the Vtubers/Pro-wrestlers similarities will be complete

>>102531032
GLORY TO THE CCP
GLORY TO CHAIRMAN MAO

>>102532245
Nijinigger argues like a kike
Shocking

>>102532126
don't forget the NOVA girls, anon

then again idek if they had VShojo in their Twitter names to begin with

>>102532126
Does Froot even do anything these days? Haven’t heard about her in ages.

>>102532126
Michi... Please protect her.

>>102532390
based on her tweet before the shit came out it looked like she was gonna come back to being active but then Mouse dropped her shit and everything went up in flames

Deserves

>>102525273
admitting it only now when the company has been completely exposed despite the company experiencing troubles again and again? When she herself was delayed payment and she's aware of it? lol

>>102532390
probably cheating on the side with whoever c*ck is with her now

>>102523713 (OP)
Did it to herself, joining the bottom of the barrel.

Nezuna tweeted

https://x.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1947648036643213550

>>102526967
are you seriously comparing Intel to hololive those years ago?

>>102529913
I always feel like something is off about her ever since Coco days. Like she's the Jap that bragged to her colleagues that she can speak and communicate in English. And then she wants to become a force for something because a speck of her Anglo DNA encourages her to have an ego, nullifying her Japanese DNA of being low profile and going with the flow. And now, she is one step closer to become like any other repugnant western youtubers.

>>102523713 (OP)
I am enjoying watching this dumb bitch get her comeuppance.

>>102532587
Cheating on /k/fags is moral desu

>>102524084
Niji
Cons: only 1-2%
Pros: You actually get it.

>>102532695
Holy fucking leech, mikek should really rope herself

Now you remember that this bitch was once blocked by management from tweeting to address something, but she still ignored it and let it slide because she thought it didn’t affect her pocket at the time.

>>102531829
>muh holo
the problem with hololive is that a subset of fans (the nationalist chongs) wanted her dead, she could not have stayed even if everyone else was ok with it

>>102532882
Leave her alone. She's an og and always did everything for her fans.

>>102532695
>wahhh why arent more jp girls in vshojo
>henya who?? never heard of her

>>102523841
loooool

Pretty sure it's only bugpeople that have any schadenfreude over this. Truly though, it is impressive how hard the japanese commit to repugnant corporate culture and treatment. No wonder the west has always ruled the world, we've always permitted success amongst the working class and this is the wealth that permits passportbro behavior, Asia has always been geared towards impoverishing and enslaving their own.

>>102527306
>2% was sourced from Mysta
he said it live on stream as Mista 2 years ago

And GB's issue is not even in the same ballpark as Aster, get the fuck out of here you twit

>>102533071
That's the funny thing, she has no friends in holo and she isn't really friends with kson/henya, her only hope is to have a kouhai gen that would try sucking up to her, pathetic.

>>102533071
Henya is thai

>>102525020
Gunrun is more like Ontherun, they're making do with what they can try to get a hold of to try to get some sense of accountability somewhere

>>102532811
>You actually get it.
yeah you get it whether you want it or not

>>102533718
I hear they give up after a couple of attempts though