SHE'S FUJOSHING OUT Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/ichikamaia/status/1936084126509002893

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.youtube.com/@torioriane
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102686655

I'm scared of the bombs dropping tomorrow. We know Camila has something and Nyanners is apparently getting ready to speak too. Plus we could have more surprises, fuck.

>>102692468 (OP)
Man crazy how stacked the roster would've been if we didn't have the League of Super Evil running the show.

I'm compiling a list of people who are owed money from VShojo
Here's what I can recall, let me know if I'm missing something or if I'm wrong
>$500k to the IDF
>The equivalent of a house to Mouse
>The equivalent of a Ferrari to Kson (Likely over $200k)
>An undisclosed amount to Henya
>An undisclosed amount to Michi
>An undisclosed amount to Zen
>An undisclosed amount to Kuro
>An undisclosed amount to Mint
>All the other new hires also had debut budgets they received no compensation for
>Geega is owed "something"
>Nova is owed merch money from their debut, valentine's, and birthdays
>The equivalent of a Mercedes S-Class to Nyan (Likely over $100k, not sure if she's been partially paid yet)
>Silver was owed money (not sure if she's been partially paid but she is still owed money for tons of sponsors like Smite and Ironside)
>Vei was owed money (Only some of it got paid, not all)
>Potentially money to Mata as well
>Bricky is owed $15,000
>Panora Virtual Reality Japan is owed money as well
>Various contractors and such
>Any lenders they borrowed money from
>A bunch of artists (if any notable artists in particular let me know then I'll list them)
>Half of this thread for shitposting about Vei without pay (for legal reasons this is a joke)

A Japanese cyptobro claims that there were talks to acquire VShojo for $2,000,000 that they ultimately backed out on since the financials of the business looked very unprofitable. This could possibly be around the total amount of money VShojo owes minus the lost charity money.
>https://x.com/CL207/status/1947911415651512533

>>102692519
mouse too

>>102692519
Personally I'm excited instead because I'm a dramafag at heart

>>102692532
I mean, the League of Super Evil is why VShojo was even a thing

>>102692546
YOU FORGOT THE $5 HE OWES ME FOR THAT LITTLE CAESAR'S HOT AND READY PIZZA YOU BITCH

Vshojo resembles a samurai who, after performing seppuku, continued to flail about in shameful agony — and Mouse served as the kaishakunin, delivering a merciful end to its futile struggle.

So is "batou_heisei" apek? Henya just unmodded loutlot, mtd, gunrun, and also this guy while keeping all of her original vshojo appointed mods, so it would make sense if he were also one of the higher ups. And after checking the archives, the only other person to mention this guy was a schizo 3 years ago who also made this connection >>39776501>>39883917

>>102692609
Don't worry, just join the inevitable class action lawsuit against Gunrun

Thank you mouse for streaming! I busted the fattest nut edging until you streamed again. Probably wont do it again out of respect since shit isn't great right now. But thank you for letting me cum!

>>102692663
nah bro, what the ABSOLUTE FUCK???

>>102692651
Seems like a vshojo social media guy, wouldn't be surprised if he was the one running the Twitter accounts.

Silver removed Friday stream from her schedule

WHEN WILL SOMEONE TELL ALMOST HALF THE GIRLS THAT IT'S NOT ALOT. IT'S A LOT.

>>102692681
YOU SUCK AT BEER PONG, MTD!

Mel is evil

>>102692716
https://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html

>>102692714
Oh boy the Nyan bomb is gonna be like that?

>>102692714
if this turns out to be a big nothingburger I can't wait to see the reactions here.

>>102692783
>its gonna be a collab
uh oh

>>102692714
Uh-oh

Now that VShojo is dead, I really hope at least some of the girls who really wanted to play Minecraft will get invited to VSMP 2

>>102692651
They already knew about the relationship between Apek and Melody hm

this all started when gunrun tuned into a melody cb stream

kek

>>102692859
Hopefully they invite chuubas who actually want to play Minecraft instead of people who only play for like a week then stop playing

>>102692884
KEK

>>102692766
Now I want art of Henya with Alot

Do you think mint is getting 2nd hand debuf since she's so close to doki?
The way mint talked about wanting to be part of a group again made it sound like she didn't have a lot of options.

>>102692939
Whisps are numbermonkeys?

>>102692939
Mint could join every corpo other than Cover if she wanted to. I assume the appeal of vshojo was that they would give her her own idol group with minimal control and without having to adopt a new identity or lose rights to Mint. Not a lot of corpos would offer that.
Of course, that's because it was all bullshit and lies.

>>102692808
Collab would be nuts but if the stream as removed entirely I'd assume a post instead. A big one like Nyan and Vei so she's not in the mood to stream after.

>>102693008
Collab would be cool but yeah it seems like a minefield for the other 2 to interact safely in a live setting where they could fuck up. Vei has no fear but she's also got no fear from an extremely advantageous position the other 2 don't share lol.

>>102693004
>Of course, that's because it was all bullshit and lies.
It wasn't bullshit and lies. The plan would have worked if they'd found funding. Undelivered promises from shitty management is not the same thing. Still sucks, though, and I'm still pissed.

mtd's tweet got community noted lmao

>>102693035
If I promise you a car and then it turns out I'm beyond broke and can't even afford a bike then I told you bullshit and lies. It doesn't matter if technically I could have bought you one if money fell on my lap.

>>102693065

If only the orange man didn't raise tariffs.
I'd vote for him again for the memes though.

>>102693065

>>102693139
is that the narrative we're going with? trump killed vshojo?

>>102693153
Trump and MTD met at Epstein Island

>>102693153
I wouldn't say he killed them given what we know no, but he certainly exacerbated the problems lol

>>102692939
at this point what's stopping her from forming her own idol group? she's already putting on big concerts with the help of oshi spark, I guess at this point she'd need someone to coordinate production on songs and MVs and shit

>>102693139
>>102693165
Vshojo was already pretty much bankrupt when he was elected you retard.

>>102693191
Reading comprehension anon.

>>102693166
Logistics are hard and expensive, and in this industry (and now more than ever) you have to watch out for scammers too.

>>102693065
why community note is a such big deal for you? isn't it just a rando comment?

>>102693139
I'm more surprised vshojo didn't file for any of that juicy dei money during biden, they were basically marketing themselves as some commie community

>>102693204
I read it and it wouldn't have changed anything if he didn't get elected. Vshojo was already doomed at that point.

>>102692884
LMAO

>>102692546
I saw the 2m claim, but 500k + A House (1m) + Ferrari (250k) + probably 100k each per other talent AT LEAST.... 2m seems lower than needed.

>>102693208
true but I feel like mint of all people would have a fuck ton of skilled and reliable people that would wanna work with her

>>102693215
it's a sign that people know he's lying

>>102693230
Pls dude tell me what Dei money is.
the fact that you say dei says alot about your ability to research things so don't bother answering.

>>102693139
>I'd vote for him again
>again

>>102693215
No deflecting, MTD.

>>102693256
they were lying

>>102693252
Yes and I said he exacerbated the problem. Exacerbated = made things worse. You can't ship merch, the only thing that's making money, if you can't afford to produce it anymore. And the reason it would be more costly to produce is because of a certain retard's retarded attempt at a trade war with the #1 producer of merch lmao.

>>102693230
kek I think I argued with you once in SFO's discord unless you're just retarded in the exact same way

>>102693065
FUCKING ANNIHILATED

>>102693165
^
>>102693252
They where doomed, no one is arguing that retard-kun. but the part that isn't said that is obvious is that maybe they would have had more time to gather funds and mint would have had her group before everything exploded.
btw before you sperg out its just speculation, these words arent real and can't hurt you.

>>102692884
Oof...

>>102693065
L M A O

Does Geega say anything in her video other than saying she armchair business expert'd them with no details about her actual suggestions? I'm hearing a lot of "I was giving them so much advice, I was telling them how to do things good" ok... anyone can say that, what advice did you actually give and what bad decisions did they make? It just sounds like she's trying to leverage drama to make herself look better.

I wish the kson vlog had captions baked in, the auto generated cc struggles because she talks so damn fast

>>102693215
No retard. People have to submit it for community note and cite sources and then these need to be consolidated and approved. It isn't just some fucking random comment.

>>102691949
Yeah and that was what Zen was bitching about
VShojo was going to throw her to the wolves once more, and they were going to launch the Mint Gen before the Monster One, but obviously people would rise suspicion to Mint because just like Ama, they don't bother to inform the audience of anything for some fucking reason, they were allergic to do the bare minimum it seems.
Idk if the Idol Gen used people who Mint selected or not, Pheobe said she auditioned, so no fucking clue.
A lot of people throw the idea that Pia and Beri were also picked because of Mint, but Pia and Mint started hanging out more after the audition was in stage 1. Beri was probably just considered in the same way.

I really want to Panini to talk more about those things, but alas, we might never hear anything.

>>102693339
>>102693293
Vshojo would have still died at the same time. The only thing that would change is the amount owed.

>>102693351
She literally says she joined with the purpose of saving vshojo, psychopathic comments to be honest.

>>102692877
https://www.businessinsider.com/former-twitch-executives-staffers-who-launched-startups-creators-gaming-2022-5
970 Million from Amazon and 17/19 failed just like Vshojo lmao

geegsperg is back

Hi, everyone. I'm legitimately Gunrun, and all I really have to say is: "Woops"

lol

>>102693371
Yes. And the amount owed could have been lessened if they were more able to do another merch drop at the time. That's what the word exacerbated means. Now stop sucking geriatric pedophile's dick.
>>102693364
It's so weird that they didn't offer up a tweet or anything to say that Ama wasn't from the auditions in hindsight. I didn't think it was a big deal at the time because all it took was a single sentence from Ama, but if they were planning on doing it AGAIN there was no guarantee they'd inform anyone that time either and then that would've been really dumb and bad. Hope we can get some NDA-breaking stuff from the staff too. Would love hear Panini and Poshie open up about everything that happened.

>>102693371
>would have still died at the same time
I have no idea where you get that from and i don't trust a 4chan poster would have the know how to accurately predict that

>>102693261
Hard claim. They could be well intentioned but incompetent, or skilled but unfamiliar to her. Building an entirely logistical structure is a hard ask, specially for a vtuber whose streaming would suffer from having to handle so much shit.
At the time, having supposedly fellow idolfag Gunrun and his company with ties to the JP idol scene handle it for her must have seemed like a godsend (and was probably presented as such).

>>102693435
awww, can you be mad at the guy?

>>102693435
Okay I forgive you if you promise to not do it again

>>102693435
Share the folder of VShojo talent feet pics and I will defend you online for free

>>102693452
fair enough, I suppose it's a hard ask for someone who streams to successfully manage all the logistics for an idol group on top of that or even to find someone else who will, seems like if you want anything done right these days you gotta do it yourself

Not trying to be a skitzo poster or anything but why was coming out about the auditions so important to zen? Out of all the responses i've seen, zen is the only one that talks about that.

>>102693380
Worse than that, she says the only reason she joined was to cure vshojo, and her entire experience at vshojo was her trying to fix up everything on her own at vshojo like their savior. And she says the only reason she left was that she tried and couldn't fix things. She says all the successful projects were her idea and all the projects were driven forward by her. Absolutely insane comments.

>>102693536
zen is a savior fag and wanted to beat the nepo allegations

So the big thing Mouse told Aethel in dm during his earlier stream is that she really is being sued by the company. There's no way this doesn't create so much more sympathy for her and bring all the old and never debuted members together against them.

>>102693536
Because she had been vocal about wanting small vtubers to join and get picked, and people had also targeted her for "nepohiring" Geega and Haruka

>>102693536
>>102693554
becasuse she put her name and reputation on audtions so every fuckup would be (and was) blamed on her
look at all the
>hurr durr zen saviorfag
posts
that's the reason why she cared so much

>>102693536
it was just the most important thing that zen publicly had a hand in with regards to the company and management was always making her look bad by not making any announcements or finally debuting anyone chosen

>>102693559
That would certainly fit the bill of "that goes beyond evil" but I doubt it. What would they even sue her over? She's respected NDA the hardest.

>>102693452
>must have seemed like a godsend
Mint is such a hard worker she would have done so much.
But given the situation even if she did some how join the investment money just wouldn't have been there i think.

>>102693559
This would just be hyper suicide. Sucks that Mouse has to deal with it, but it won't amount to anything in the long run except for gunrun to crash and burn even harder.

>>102693559
wtf would they being suing her for?

>>102693065
>MowTenDoo
Dude should've kept doing videos like the Pepsiman music video or referencing NicoNico music videos memes.

>>102693553
this kinda reads like an unhinged anti post but she kinda did say those things

>>102693597
Mint would have been a god-tier addition and every time I think that we lost that and I remember her crying I get pissed beyond belief.

>>102693553
Mana gem

>>102693559
She didn't say that

Zen wanted 0view girls to join so he can easily sexpest them, since grooming Henya didn't work and backfired.

>>102693624
Breach of contract.

>>102693643
We could have it all, the reality is really cruel.

>>102693643
Mint and Henya will never be orgmates...

It would have worked if they listened. Instead now the CEO is wanted for fraud, the COO is on the run and MTD is wanted for sexual harrasment.

>>102693659
what did she do that was breaching a contract?

>>102693641
Thats what I'm trying to wrap my head around, why would she say these things? I understand she had her own experiences at Vshojo which were probably negative. But this just comes across as extremely narcissistic and attention grabbing "I told you so" with no hard examples and taking credit for all the good things like what the fuck?? Even if there are elements of truth to this who would say it in this situation?

>>102693667
They can be orgmates with me, only add a "y" in the middle

>>102693705
That would only happen in Koikatsu

>>102693685
Moot point. She was right.

>Gunrun was shit at leading the org
>MTD was shit at marketing
>Apek wasn't even a real lawyer
Would an alternate timeline where the leadership was just Panini focusing on the talents and nothing else have worked?

>>102693575
>>102693581
>>102693583
>>102693554
Yea okay I can see that. It's just weird that someone in her position cared about what trolls were saying so much.
She probably was getting harassed by close "friends" and smaller vtubers, other wise i don't see why she would care so much

>>102693717
Vei was right.

>>102693717
What are you talking about? Anyone can look at a failed business and say "Oh yeah I was right there with them in the board room telling them how to be successful and how to win everything but they didn't listen to me and now they failed". She literally didn't say anything more than that other than claiming that she had the best ideas and no one listened and that everything good from vshojo was due to her, like this is unhinged stuff.

>>102693559
Pic related, it's you.

>>102693594
Lawyers involved in bankrupcy procedings can go after people who broke NDAs to try and claw back some pennies for their clients. It's a part of being a zelous advocate for shareholders. It doesn't matter how terrible it looks.

>>102693685
probably comes from her corpo background, you kinda gotta self-fellate in front of important people to get ahead, years of engaging in this behavior makes it pretty hard to change

>>102693732
Zen gets oneguy'd all the time. She shouldn't have cared, but she did, and so Vshojo should have cared to make a couple fucking tweets to keep their talent from having a fucking mental breakdown.

>>102693767
First you claim she did absolutely nothing in vshojo, then it turns out she did. Now you claim she shouldn't have said anything. What the fuck do you want?

>>102693798
What are you talking about? I'm just asking why she is saying this unhinged shit in her response video, I'm not making any claims about her.

>>102693559
[citation needed]

>>102693830
Did you also hear the part where she had to onboard new leadership because nobody else did it? Thoughts?

>>102693559
I don't think so
people that worked at Vshojo are retards but even they know lawsuits will get them nothing at this point
My money is on Mouse being doxxed by mtd

>>102693770
NTA but sure they can try but they won't get a fucking penny. You can't go after someone for breaking NDA because they spoke about how your company abused them, the judge would call you a fucking idiot and throw the NDA out immediately.

>>102693641
I can't tell if she's honest or if she's just an extreme narcissist

>>102693732
I mean when trolls are saying something a lot other people you could potentially work with are gonna see it too and start thinking things whether they want to or not, sad reality of this business. how many times have you seen two retards fighting over some rrat about a chuuba you don't know much of only to realize months or years later that you came away from that believing the wrong thing?

>>102693830
Part of what people do in sitautions like this is promote their brand. It often brings a new set of eyes so, while you have that attention because of your closeness to the drama, shaping what you say about it to reinforce what you're about too is natural. It lets people that were victims sometimes salvage something from a terrible situation. Maybe you just hate self promotion and networking, but that's how people grow. Indies in particular have to be rutheless about it.

it's so hard to talk about shit when people want to gas up their vtuber so much when some just want objective answers and they sperg out.

I don't know what to shitpost about. I feel like anything I come up with will be less ridiculous than whatever new real shit that pop up.

>>102693862
What don't you understand about my objections here? I have no idea what she truly did or didn't do. What she is saying could be 100% true (I doubt it's completely true, it sounds virtually impossible) but it would still be a psychopathic thing to say in this situation.

Oh the Geega sperg is back. Now he's mad that... She did work behind the scenes?

>>102693900
I thought you had left, GTAanon

>>102693732
Also, Zen saw the Haruka situation, and believe me it wasn't good for everybody, Moose still hasn't recovered. I think Ama took a soft blow and she's a bit more stable on these kinda things.

>>102692468 (OP)
>still haven't removed Geega from the OP

>>102693908
>it would still be a psychopathic thing to say in this situation.
Why? She just said what she did to help in vshojo.

>>102693917
When she left the org I'm not going to keep posting about her in the wrong thread. That's rude. But she's a part of this one.

>>102693900
I could understand it if this was her being interviewed for a management position at another corpo and not a vtuber giving their side of the story on their cute anime girl internet episode. Using this as an opportunity to advertize yourself as a genius business ladyboss who could have single handedly saved a dying company if only the idiot leadership listened to her is not a good look in this situation.

>>102693941
She said today that yesterday's conversation came out of anger, she retracted it.

>>102693721
Prolly

>>102693968
Which conversation?

>>102693883
>>102693784
yea I still feel like there is more too it, but with out a response from zen i'm just being a skitzo

I'm more likely to believe Geega knows absolutely nothing about running businesses and that her ideas were 100% trash and were rightly ignored and would have made vshojo crash faster than I am to believe what she claims happened. Especially given her defense of MSM and Seth.

Imagine you are a hardened corpo woman with 20 years of experience. You walk into a start up and you see shit start to fall apart. You try to offer advice and point out things that would not work or could not work. Your opinions are discarded by people who have no idea what they are doing. You quit. The next week you see this shit. Of course you would be mad.

wdsmbt

>>102693967
Maybe it's time to accept that you aren't the intended audience for every piece of media you come across. This stuff is an important part of her brand and something that always comes up in a laudatory way when other streamers talk about her. That happens because she reinforces it with this sort of video. You don't like her so you would find anything she does grating. Your response isn't useful feedback that she's missing. It's just irrelevant.

>>102694063
She posted art right after this retard. It isn't even remotely relevant.

Imagine you are Geega. And you see an innocent shota standing by himself...

>>102694063
another lost member, great

>>102693968
bs, geega doesn't feel emotions

>>102694036
This is coming from someone who said she has 100% trust in MSM and Seth who was literally just a gunrun-with-less-investment-capital except worse because I can at least believe GunRun was just chasing a dream too hard, while Seth has explicitly admitted to being a psychopath who wants to harm people and who trips on the power he gets from manipulating and scamming people.

>>102694031
Brother I think you're just mad that Geega was right this whole time.

>>102694107
Not even close, see: >>102694081

>>102694080
ok Geega

>>102693908
Nta but i get what you are saying. Its really hard to tell where she is coming from with what she is saying and how she says it.

>>102694124
cope

What has been the craziest reveal to you?

>>102694080
>Maybe it's time to accept that you aren't the intended audience for every piece of media you come across
You're right, I don't enjoy narcissist content creators.

>>102694162
Froot returning to streaming

>>102694162
Vshojo staff spreading rrats about Vei and Silver in here

>>102694139
At the very least this really isn't the moment for "I told you so"s but especially not really smug ones that paint you as a misunderstood business genius

>>102694162
Mel and the COO

>>102694162
vshojo astroturfing on /vt/

>>102694162
sex trafficking

>>102694195
>At the very least this really isn't the moment for "I told you so"s
Why not? She's doing this to Gunrun and Apek and whoever is up there in c-suite. This is absolutely the time for it.

>>102694162
M/in/t was real all along.

>>102694162
Tribal bait threads were actually made by VShojo staff. I always suspected that you have to have a negative IQ to made them, but this is just on another level.

>>102694191
I'm going to tell you all a secret as someone in the know about certain things. There are ALWAYS some rrats really are coming from people on the inside, and if you have the nose for it you can pick out which ones are true things being leaked here (with errors for plausible deniability) vs fake things that are being leaked here to discredit and manipulate people.

That said I still fucking hate Vei and Silver for my own personal reasons surrounding their public behavior and not anything to do with weird slander from vshojo leakers.

>>102694162
Almost all/all of the talents weren't getting paid for like 10 fucking months and just waited around not talking to each other hoping the situation would magically fix itself.

>>102694162
The unknown /in/'s. I've been saying for weeks that all we needed was some new member debuts to raise the morale of the org 10x over. And I mean they did because i love them all, but also there is no org for them to debut in now so that sucks

>>102694162
M/in/t is probably the craziest plot twist so far. Also the Vei nuke.

Was MTD Seth's pocket Jannie all along?

>>102694162
How fucking many people were already /in/ and MINT the free money glitch being in that batch

>>102694162
senzawa's "uh oh!" tweet was just after she had talks with gunrun about joining but things went off the rails after that

>>102694162
Individually, every single schizo theory seemed to have a grain of truth to it. The only thing that shocks me is that damn near ALL OF THEM wound up being true.

What if MTD publishes the genuine ex-Vshojo members' doxx files?

>>102694257
Geega has made some of the worst business bets of anyone in vtubing, literally saying publicly she has full trust in a person who turned out to be a psychopathic manipulator.

>>102694293
just be nice to Silver it's not that hard

>>102694347
ye

>>102694354
is this confirmed?

>>102694365
Then he's just asking to get stabbed by a schizo at a con lol

>>102694390
No he made it up

>>102694390
No I made it up

>>102694195
There's no simple path or pattern to follow in sitautions like this. The general legal advice you might get is to just be totally silent since you never know what kind of broader imact any statement will have. Silence is the best way to end up with a good legal outcome months or years down the road. But realistically, individual talent won't be able to chase down what they're owed by that method. So potentially making a future civil suit harder when that suit is never going to happen is held up against getting some kind of satisfaction now, by talking when the interest is at its highest.

I don't want mel to be bad

Are we getting chatgpt-ed

>>102694162
https://x.com/_silvervale_/status/1433294954571382790
This made me sick to my stomach

>>102694390
Yes I made it up

>>102694422
No, we're getting Geega'd

>>102694162
Mint being a hidden crypto secret vshojo, set to lead an idol gen but getting jerked around and delayed for a year genuinely shocked me. Did not see it coming even a little.
I really wonder what it would have been like if it had happened. A better timeline. but just wasn't meant to be

>>102694420
Me neither and I really hope Digi is just sperging.

>>102694257
because you don't just start saying random shit with out consequences.
You could say
>Man i really wish Hitlertron would just get minecraft sheep machined until they bleed out.
while you would be correct and justified in saying that, you would also be sociopathic

>>102694375
Sorry I just hate cynical clout sharks that cry crocodile tears to maximize follower gain in fake controversies. Worked though, good for her.

>>102694452
When Mint announced a stream I expected "I didn't get paid for my merch" but yeah that fucking reveal lol

you stupid mfs don't even know

>>102694466
omg MTD hi

>>102694482
stop vagueposting mouse/geega/vei/nyan

>>102694466
t. transformer

...I still think Vshojo can make a comeback

>>102694454
>because you don't just start saying random shit with out consequences
I do this day in and day out, from the time I wake to the time I sleep

>>102694162
M/in/t

>>102694396
If he show up at a con he'll get stabbed regardless

>>102694482
ok vei

>>102694503
here's how vshojo can still win

>>102694521
Preach geega, open up MSPaint and start drawing boxes like pirate

>>102694335
>>102694348
I pray to allah that Mint's tism about corpos was likely the reason Michi and her haven't collab yet.. please I need it. I want to at least be happy with the what would have been

Just say 'sorry'. Worked for BP.

>>102694482
spill it mouse

>>102694489
>>102694500
No I hate Mowtendoo fucking loser and Seth cocksucker. No idea why Geega thinks they're both brilliant business strategists.

>>102694201
Nice try, Mowtendo.

>>102694548
BP had billions for lawsuits and ad campaings
Vshojo doesn't even have enouh for parking ticket

>>102694453
I have a bad feeling that if MTD isn't innocent then mel isn't either.
But honestly I don't think the girls have the heart to throw mel under the bus even if it was some terrible shit, its way easier to do it to EVIL MEN!

>>102694551
check dms

>>102694568

We don't like Mel here, she made Filian cry

She killed billions

>>102694568
>Aethel when Mouse sends another dm

>>102694201
the coocoo COO

>>102694505
yes anon its fine if you do it because only *insert ip count here* hear you. But someone with an audience can only hide behind their shit sucking audience for so long.

Okay I'm from the phase connect general, I heard about what happened to you guys, is there any drama happening today that I should look out for?

>>102694590
damn right she did

>>102694452
The store one was really suspicious, I was even the idiot that said the reason Mata was fired was because she helped her with the site.
I'm also sad that the minki box will never be a thing. It was genuienly such a good idea.

>>102694586
she did? when

>>102694590
For everyone hating on geega because of her takes, pls understand, she has an ahoge, it's in character

Also clip from the raid earlier: https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius/clip/HonestViscousWormTwitchRPG-42Qot3doFbsgaxZ1

>>102694611
Check Camila and Nyan's Twitter accounts tomorrow. Maybe Silver too. Anything else is a surprise

>>102694482
Mouse is my dad and she says that men are evil and deserve to die

>>102694590
yeah, she killed billions of my tiny little buddies with her mouth

The real question I have is why has Geega spoken out about Vshojo so quickly but still hasn't said anything about MSM? Didn't she tell MSM how to be successful and wasn't she responsible for all the successful projects there too?

>>102694611
Check Vei's tweet, that's pretty much what we are rolling today
Tomorrow might be Nyan and Camila's nuke.
Mouse's nuclear destruction will be probably in the next weeks. We literally have no dates.

The bad women were good and the good men were bad, what can we learn from this?

>>102692556
apparently at least five different media outlets have approached mouse, she is just waiting for a go ahead by her lawyer to speak with them.

>>102694638
true and real

>>102694466
Silver is too emotional for crocodile tears
her tears are genuine
She loves Harry Potter and really thought her playing game just becasue she's a fan of HP wouldn't be a problem
She never had any bad experiences with twitter crowds before
As a Silverfag I can admit that her playing that game was stupid and she shouldn't have done that as a public persona
but I refuse to agree that she did any drama farming for personal gain

>>102692556
Nah, Mouse has the video release tomorrow, her nuke will be probably in the next week.

>>102694586
fillian hangs out with mizkif so i could give two shits about her.

>>102694324
I think Kuro's explanation was the best.
They were having meetings with management, and they were giving feedback to "make things better", which obviously was a bunch of crap in hindsight, but it strung people along in hopes that it'll get better.
It's also very unusual to discuss personal finances with colleagues. People probably thought it was just them, and knowing the kind of insidious manipulation they were pulling, trying to pit people against each other with the original leavers, there was more than likely something going on here too.

Vshojo and Gunrun's backpacks are terrible

>>102694568
*gasp* I HATE THAT FUCKING KEK LOSER BITCH

i'm gonna get my cock tangled in zentreya's ceiling fan and just fly around her living room and shit everywhere

>>102694567
Mel at the very least was complicit, none of her income streams were ever infringed (patreon/cb/etc), and while she had relatively few sponsors she was always paid out

>>102694681
I actually don't care much about people playing the game, although it was an obvious bad choice that was going to backfire. But you can also not cynically capitalize on the backlash and purposely center yourself in the drama so you get +30k followers (who are all probably following for fucked up reasons). She could've quietly took a day off and continued with other stuff and it wouldn't have stoked the flames, but she also wouldn't have gotten +30k psychos to join her community for being "based".

>>102694568
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH KEK LOSER BITCH

>>102694661
Fuck men till they become women

I didn't think silver defenders would get more annoying then silver skitzo's.
wtf is going on.

>>102694655
I remember her saying a while ago that she doesn't usually comment on drama unless it concerns her and even if it does then usually the best way to handle it is to keep quiet anyway, in other words she was too enthusiastic in her approval of MSM to paint a narrative that she knew it was a scam all along and she was secretly the hero of the story and not that many people cared about her involvement in it anyway (including her seemingly) so she just ignored it instead and everyone moved on

>>102694586
It's weird that Filian knew who Apek was.
She grouped him and Mélody together in the tier list she made.

>>102694797
Geegasperg is straight up inventing things that never happened now lmao

wait did mel know all this was going down?

>>102694681
I don't think you've been around enough women to know what Crocodile tears are because while she did shed real tears she milked it for so long it started getting awkward.

>>102694730
we now know hes not involved with the backpacks.

I feel sorry for the staff that worked their asses off and don't have a community to fall back on
Thank you guys for taking care of our oshis

>>102694748
>She could've quietly took a day off
She went offline for 2 weeks after she got attacked
how many more days off you wanted her to take?

>>102694586
Based I hate Filian

>>102694797
>in other words she was too enthusiastic in her approval of MSM to paint a narrative that she knew it was a scam all along and she was secretly the hero of the story
Due to the positive stuff she said about MSM I suppose she couldn't have done that particular spin, I guess I was being a bit snarky to suggest that. But she could at least have talked about it still.

>>102694849
I'd milk her.

>>102694743
listen MTD i think your kinks have already gotten you in enough trouble.

>>102694681
I bought the hogwarts game, it was fun for 15-20 hours or so, asking millennials to not be nostalgic about harry potter is basically a war crime. It's extremely stupid it was a controversy and she should have just ignored it, and vshojo should have backed her.
I guarantee people who participated in that cancellation have also been to harry potter worlds at universal studios or something in the past 24 months, and those who have are unspeakable hypocrites.

>>102694844
Shes going dark until it blows over or she gets deported

>>102694859
Before or after she did her pity party?

>>102694844
she hasn't released a statement(that i know of)
which is terrible because.
>it looks bad.
>makes her look guilty
>her fans don't know if she's making japan trains late.

>>102694855
Just one more storm and everything will go back to normal...

>>102694855
It was nice to hear some of the people picking up their managers, but I guess there are others with no public presence that nobody knows about.

I PLAYED THE HOGWARTS GAME FOR 2 HOURS BEFORE QUITTING. IT'S DOGSHIT.

>>102694844
Of course she did. That's why she's on "break"

>>102694889
It's literally a minor inconvenience to play it offline lmao

>>102694908
Almost nobody's released a statement. It's literally just Vei, Nyan, and Zen.

>>102694901
she did 2 weeks before
came back and told everybody she was getting harassed and death threats (Mamavale too)
and then went offline for another week

>>102694909
still my favorite model of hers

>>102694959
It's a shame Neonbeat died

>>102694936
Streamers play game, it's their job.
If people want to run around destroying people's favorite content creators for thoughtcrimes and playing the wrong game, they shouldn't be surprised when they wake up some day and public support has totally eroded to nothing. Because nobody likes loud harassing schizo hate mobs. It's not a winning strategy.

>>102694959
tfw Neonbeat is dead and never coming I mean it's deserved, but he made a damn good model

>>102694849
>been around enough women
This is a vtuber board anon.
The closest to a conversation with women people have here are dono messages.

>>102694932
But she's not mentioned in ANYONE'S posts.

>>102694844
Her husband was the COO of the company so it's unlikely she was completely clueless.

>>102694293
>>102694466
>>102694748
>>102694849
>>102694901
You're not right in the head, to put it mildly.

>>102694914
How did the managers not know anything though? In particular, there were managers that were working with multiple talents, so they would have heard about things like sponsor and merch money being held back from more than just their one person.

>>102694959

>>102695001
isn't it weird that people have to be insane for you to be right?

>>102695019
They probably knew but it's not like they could do anything.

>>102694982
I'm close to a lot of major streamers and all of them do play games offline when they don't feel it fits the stream (or because they don't want to be cancelled). It was literally a huge brand risk to do it, and would cost her almost nothing to experience in private and do other games on stream. Vshojo might be scumbags and they shouldn't have treated her like they did, but they were absolutely right to not support playing that game and ask their talents to avoid it. By playing it on stream you're bringing your friends into the drama too. Just be responsible, god.

>>102694787
oh the irony

Remember friends, you are no longer getting paid, you don't have to do this, cut your losses and move on, get a real job, go outside, touch some grass and be happy.

>>102695038
>I'm close to a lot of major streamers
I doubt it
you're making up lies to support your argument

>read thread
>see all these posts about Geega's narcissism
Fuck all of you. Now she's stuck in my mind as the Donald Trump of Vtubing and it's living in my brain.
>I joined Vshojo because I have the best ideas! All the ideas! With me we could turn it all around and win bigly!
>But the crooked Gunrun just wouldn't listen, and now crippled Mouse is even broker and slutty Melody is stuck in Japan!
>covfefe

>>102694959
Rigging too good that even scared vei

>>102694936
jfc what a retard lmao

>>102695049
Geega "I was saving vshojo and responsible for all their successes" is cool but you can't imagine that people close to certain vtubers come to 4chan to shitpost?

>>102695057
>catty bitches from NYC
Geega and Trump are the same person.

>>102695036
They can tell their talent that it's happening to others. If members knew they weren't the only ones it was happening to, they can push back together and force the company to change in a way they can't as individuals.

>>102694889
what I wonder is if that call she had with gunrun came before or after her crashout stream. I think it might've actually been before since she played it on the 8th and 10th of February then went on a break until the 16th when she had her crashout. Bro if they reprimanded her over some Twitter slacktivists spamming her in replies that's so fucking bullshit lmao

>>102695049
You hit the nail on the head.

>>102695057
Except she was right because vshojo collapsed and is no more.

>>102694998
>husband

>>102695057
This is actually funny anon, thanks. But speaking of
>covfefe
Did you see how Fefe also made this entire situation about her? Like jesus fucking christ. Why are so many of the successful vtubers such desperate clout sluts?

>>102695057
>we're going to make the greatest organization! And we're going to make Hololive pay for it!

>>102694681
I refuse to believe she didn't know. I knew how schizo twitter was being about that game and I barely used that site back then.

>>102695107
Hey anon, I'm working pretty hard tonight trying to get the sun up in time in the morning. You can thank me later.

>>102695114
When will you learn that almost all vtubers have significant others? I don't even like her all that much but Vei was right once again.

>>102692546
Nyanners was owed a mercedez AT THE TIME THAT SHE LEFT. he recovered those funds later. See text on screen at this timestamp.

https://youtu.be/9Y52g4USjcQ?si=iTI3cMg1lYfgMTa-&t=1286

>>102695166
Because no one has brought up or mentioned Melody or her 'husband'.

>>102695158
You literally have to be a retard or living under a rock to not be able to predict what would happen. But the controversy tears/3day ban style meta was also really known by all content creators. I trust what she says about her interactions with Vshojo, and by her description, they sound fucked up. But any brand would reasonably telling their talents "NO DON'T DO THIS" because it brings a lot of negative attention to the brand but also their fellow talents. The other talents had to deal with a lot of shit when they didn't even touch Harry Potter. Just be considerate of your friends at least please god

>>102695143
that recent Rolling Stones article is so fucking embarrassing

>>102695057
If Geega runs for president I will vote for her

>>102695180
Interesting.

>>102695211
Yes they did.
>>102694844

>>102694959
I like the art that came out around it

>>102695038
>don’t play a game based on a book written by a tranno hater where the game is full of tranno shit OR ELSE

Internet drama is for legitimate retards.

>>102695255
Now post one of the talents from vshojo bringing her up.

>>102695246
I miss geega's short model

basically all the silver harry potter drama proved is that Vshojo - and really, all vtuber talent agencies- needed to hire One Guy whose job it is to know what all the Sisters- regardless of ideology- are mad about, at all times, to keep their talents away from them

>>102695264
Why would that be necessary?

>>102695228
kek you're not real

Pink cat is going to drop the Mel nuke

>>102695166
more people need to realize this.
No successful women would go with out an SO, I mean look at Nyan, she came from this shit hole and she has someone.
But too many people like to villainize people who want to watch a single vtuber not realizing fans just want someone to relate to and don't like being lied to.

>>102694503
Froot can still save VShojo.

I'd nuke mel's ass. With my penis.

>>102695260
Why do you think that matters? You have to support your brand and not bring controversy to your colleagues.

>>102695228
Silver said multipule times she doesn't browse twitter and is living in her own bubble

Mel let Gun Apek and MTD run a train on her.

>MEL'S THE MASTERMIND
bro she's fucking dumber than a bag of hammers.

>>102695260
>the game is full of tranno shit
It's not full of it, it has one trans character, Serena or whatever her name is. Female model, male voice. The devs themselves created her to spite the original author and they still got crucified (and everyone who played the game). The whole HL drama is retarded.

>>102695333
They got crucified because it's blatantly trying to pander and say "see we're not that bad" It's incredibly transparent too anyone who actually bought into it being a good thing is giga retarded lol

God can you imagine how much MTD was gloating when nyan had the yab

>>102695019
https://x.com/catsgomao/status/1948469393236918721
>A lot of views on my LinkedIn this week so to clear up:
>I was brought on for talent but helped with operations, voluntary at first then often out of necessity
> I noticed the merch issues, so I built reports and built a case to improve it
>I did not have access to financials
Someone then asked him about the merch issues
> For the issues, they weren't so much to do with individual orders as it did the overall system in place. I would ask for statuses/updates on certain order numbers or specific inquiries. They are great and I trust they were working their absolute best despite imposed limits.

>>102695320
I don't doubt it, even if she was married.
they probably have bought 500k worth of drugs in their time there.

>>102695228
>>102695314
I hope you're at least getting paid for this, because if you're doing this for free... oof...

>>102695302
she terminated her contract already

>>102695314
no this is how everyone gets corraled into corporate sanitization and sucks the fucking soul out of everything, it's fucking retarded and you should repent

>>102694993
Mouse is still following her on Twitter though.

>>102695344
you do know game made billions for WB and they're making sequel right

Talent freedom except for that one game because we really want to appeal to insane twitter lunatics (our company is dead now)

>Geega said she was a cash cow

thank you for being nice to belo bug

>>102695344
Can you speak English please?

>>102695368
I hope no one is ever forced to work with you while you're burning down their house because freedom.

Oh she was a cow alright.

>>102695381
love buggs
I want to see her play the outer wilds

my take remains that anyone who has an opinion on specifically harry potter is retarded

wait a minute.
From vei's post.
>they would read my discord.
As in they had access to her discord account?

>>102695413
Server?

>>102695375
And? Nigga it's called having principles. If you claim to believe in something and that belief is tested then you should be prepared not to fold. Especially over something so easy lmao

>>102695413
I think they mean her server, unless she doesn't have one?

>>102695395
I hope no one is ever forced to work with you constantly backseating their life and moralfagging

>>102695413
Gunrun, MTD and other vshojo staff were in discords of Vei, Silver, Nyan and they would read what the say on Vshojo
they threanted them that if they said anything bad they would sue

>>102695314
That’s how Asians think.

Sisters, please. Don't fight on the new gen's debut night

>>102695413
Her discord server anon

>>102695423
>it's called having principles
your principle is saying neet e-girl should be harassed and have death threats sent to her becasue she played harry potter game?
your club sounds great, I will support whatever casue you support now

>>102695413
Gunrun the big brother is watching Vei

>>102695381
cute pubes

>>102695410
I have an opinion.

The wizards canonically shitting in their robes thing was really funny.

End opinion.

>>102695380
>>102695403
someone's gotta draw geega getting milked the old fashioned way

>>102695441
ah, so he's seanig. welp, then I'm not surprised why is he so retarded

>>102695457
look i'm sticking to my guns with this opinion here >>102695410
but you are very clearly misconstruing what they said

>>102695430
Ok but genuinely though have you ever worked in any decently sized org before, or have you only flipped burgers? This is literally the basis of all organizational work. You can't go around smashing things up just because it suits you. You are by definition constrained to work in a way that benefits your business or you're going to get yelled out and probably fired.

>>102695413
reminds me how people used to use betterdiscord to see hidden voice channels where she was chilling with chance and she renamed the channel to like
>I know you can see this ;)

>>102695499
Is that a thing? You can see hidden voice channels?

>>102695258
is it because of all the bullshit upper management put her through the reason she quit using that model. because it was fucking fire. i mean she couldnt really use it now because of twitch hating exposed hips but still

>>102695529
Did she say that somewhere? I just assumed she commed a new one

>>102695333
the game got crucified because Rowling was getting a cut from it, that's it

>>102695494
I'm a professional anon, of course I keep my opinions to myself around clients, but these are fucking slacktivists working themselves up in a frenzy, they don't fucking matter and they will NOT impact the bottom line, and anyone that genuinely cares about wizard game that would've given them money is not worth pandering to

>>102695435
im also guessing there were sock puppets for staff in her discord keeping an eye on what she posted.

>>102695529
I think it was just the twitch ban

>>102695332
the whole thing is retarded so it fits

>>102695546
i was asking, she never really said it but their actions putting a bad taste in her mouth about using it or having it be her brand wouldnt surprise me.

>>102695555
of course she's getting a cut from it, it's her IP

>>102695523
used to be able to, the plugins got discontinued because of discord complaining or something, there's probably still something like it if discord was too lazy to just fix the exploit lol

>>102695574
the year is 2025. macron is master of europe. shitposts are battlefields. everyone weaponizes their opponent's worst posters even if its a single tweet with 4 likes

>>102695038
Meanwhile, Hololive member happily plays the wizard game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M4N5gIhYRc
I really want to hear Pikamee pronounce Avada Kedavra

>>102695618
yeah, which is why the brigading was stupid from the get go

Man now that we know that they were in here trying to insert rrats, it makes me think back to those random rrats that would show up about mata partying too hard at cons.

>>102695612
Oh well I doubt it. I think she just wanted a new model and got one even though it's a downgrade She changed her design a lot the first few years as a vtuber

>>102695529
Nah, I think she said it was a pain in the ass to come up with new outfits for that model because Neon had to do it and that piece of shit took a year to make a skirt

>>102695647
lol probably not a coincidence but I remember someone claiming that Mata was terminated because she was caught doing coke at a VShojo party. I remember thinking that was funny as fuck but having a hard time believing it

>>102695636
Because JP is a different culture with different concerns, so they were never going to get drama from that.

>>102695677
>Because JP is a different culture with different concerns
You mean Hololive.
Henya's JP and got flack for it as Pikamee and she didn't even play it, just said she was THINKING of playing it.

Froot just farted, I can smell it all the way from here

>>102694162
The VShojo COO being a Veisperg on /here/ is something that will live rent free in my head forever

>>102695677
Didnt Niji axe a chick for talking about baseball

>>102695665
hehe cokeroach

>>102695707
No because Pikamee was EN/JP so she was held to both standards, one from each group. If she fucked up on the JP side the JP chatters would have crucified her, instead she fucked up on the EN side, so the EN chatters crucified her.

>>102695707
Did she say it in english or japanese? there is your answer

now i will forever live in fear that the guy shitting up the thread is a corporate rep

>>102695753
japanglish

Is the non-disclosure agreement that Vshojo had Mamavale sign still active?

>>102695651
I still believe that this model is one of the best in terms of rigging, it was literally the first model to use VBridger which ArtGun didn't even make public until Vei's debut

>>102695732
yeah she made a throwaway joke while doing an official watchalong about how the pitcher should bean the batter with the ball and take him out of the game kek

>>102695647
I remember someone saying that she went to some fans afterparty that she met at a bar.
then later she talked about people coming up to her at bars. IIRC.

this is a really retarded thought experiment but this conversation got me thinking about what would constitute a 'controversial' game like HP in japan.

maybe halfway through the game there's a twist reveal that all the main characters are 25% korean

>>102695757
The corpo is gone anon. The only thing to be suspicious of now is people defending specific individuals. They won't always be that person, but also you can't be sure that they're not lol

>>102695753
Gundo Mirei got on national news and was executed

>>102695771
I was gonna post the same thing but I moved on so you're not alone

>>102695782
Fallout maybe? that got into controvery due to nukes

>>102695768
NDA don't dissolve just because one party declares bankrupcy or dies or something. They can have creditors that inherit the right to use them to sue and claw back money owed, for one example.

>>102695782
I don't think they care too much about games, but violating the idol kayfabe (like talking about boyfriends, not being a virgin, husband, etc), or violating permissions and copyright related stuff with JP people are VERY serious about would cause major controversy for them.

>>102695792
shouldn't make fun about baseball

>>102695782
that game is not controversial outside of twitter
why do you think it sold 34 million copies

>>102695665
agree,why would they terminate for that more then half of the girls are on some form of hard medical drug.

>>102695782
Voldemort helped with Unit 731

>>102695815
relax ms. rowling i get that all you're doing is pointing at your scoreboard this isnt about that, saying the game wasnt controversial is retarded

that familiar? me

>>102695636
Nice. Now show me a vtuber from HoloEN playing the game.

>>102695782
korean comfort women

>>102695840
>Second double cheeseburger
fat bi-wait Nyan's xvsj now I can't use that line

>>102695494
>thanks for doing so much for the company :)
>1 year later
>we’re letting you go :( also we took 500,000$ bye!

>>102695815
controversial doesn't mean that something doesn't get sold
the $500 dollar Ahri skin in League was controversial, yet it still sold like hot cakes, which made Riot do another $500 dollar skin for another champ as well

>>102695835
A bunch of seething twitterites who don't watch vtubers and a handful of trans people (there are a tiny tiny percentage of actual trans people in the US) does not a controversy make, unless you choose to let them cancel you.
Ignoring them removes all the power.
It was a mainstream game, you shouldn't let tiny but noisy groups control your talents and prevent them from playing a mainstream game.

>>102695811
I saw a video on YT a while back about NTR controversies in games and the Japanese are fucking retarded about that shit. Some idol game having a crossover event with another one would force you to change your character to female so that the idols wouldn't be talking to a male or you couldn't do the event lol

>>102695637
exactly

>>102695890
let me engage in a bit of socratic method: why are we talking about this in 2025

>>102695782
probably the chinese CoD-like game that's gonna cover a lot of Japanese WW2 war crimes
in fact, japs and weebs were already seething at it when it got announced lmao

>>102695857
It's a lot sadder to realize that the food posts are just her fantasizing about being able to eat that stuff and making it part of her character to be able to.

>>102695907
it's not my fault, silver brought it up first

>>102695907
Because Vshojo just self-destructed, all the talents are spilling all their tea and airing the dirty laundry, and Silver talked about this.
Where have you been all day?

>>102695935
>>102695934
the point i'm getting at here is that if the game hadn't been controversial silvervale and pikamee would likely not have been bullied almost to graduating by said controversy you are saying didn't happen

>>102695894
If you know you know

>>102695947
of course it happened but only on twitter which isn't real

>>102695947
I'm saying that Vshojo should have backed their girl instead of bullying her about it on phone calls.
And now Vshojo is fucking dead, because they were retards who made bad decisions. Like that one.

>>102695970
i'm not really interested in playing games with you about the definitions of words. you are mad because you think the game shouldn't have been controversial, which is a separate issue

>>102695782
Assassin's Creed Shadows

>>102695782
You can’t make a game where you can assassinate the Japanese Emperor — Japan even has a dedicated government agency that censors content related to the Imperial Family.

>>102694162
confirmation that geega is in fact ugly brings me joy

>>102695782
Alternative history game where Korea takes over Japan

>>102695976
kek well we're in agreement that there's no point discussing this further

>>102695987
that wasn't controversial to regular japs at all, it still sold well over there

>>102695997
That's literally the plot of Sekiro. So they aren't that sensitive about it.

>>102696011
you can start looking for clarity instead of deliberately trying to make things more confusing for yourself

I'm just here to let you know that Geega is the piratesoftware of vtubing

>>102695987
I only saw good things from Japanese people about that one

>>102696014
in what alternative universe did that happen?

>>102695782
>A game telling the player that NTR is wrong and comes with 100 years bad luck
>game is an essay on why kanji is absolute junk
>the dangers of back pain from bowing to randoms on the street

>>102696052
this one?

>>102696052
In the one where you don't sit in a Twitter bubble of people enraged at a black person existing.

>>102696048
it really didn't set well with chuds that it was #1 pre-ordered game in Japan and still sold millions world wide after release

>>102696043
she played GTARP instead of saving the company and killed 80% of her community.

>>102696104
Based

>>102696104
lmao

Wonder what is yagoo's opinion on gunrun now.

>>102695782
>all the main characters are 25% korean
this is a plot point in at leat 3 Yakuza games

>>102696104
Yes and she still goes around pretending to be some business genius, when she got scammed 100% of the time she joined a vtuber corpo

Bros how do we make Haruka stream again. I want my /xvsj+/ Nintendo streamer. Geega does it occasionally but not enough.

>>102696146
watch bat

I don't even remember where I saved this image from

>>102696160
Me on the left

>>102696048
Game reviewers and journos don't count. They will glaze the ever living shit out of every AAA dumpster fire if it will guarantee them early access and free copies of games.

>>102696146
Watch hackerling if you want another nintendrone.

>>102695782
If you would add Korean vehicles to war thunder and then made Japanese vehicles a sub-set of those Japanese government would intervine

>>102696160
Gay

well i think that's the end of the drama

>>102696073
so not in this one, got it

>>102696133
I did say i was really retarded

>>102696104
best way to not give them money and wanted a new community

You can compare it to the mcdonalds/starbucks boycott bullshit that only the trooniest of mentally ill freakshows perpetuate. Yes it's a tiny minority overall but it depends on how many of them watch you. No Hololive member has ever had to face an angry mob over that shit because those freakshows don't watch holo. Meanwhile Nijis get torn apart by a pack of harpies.

The point is, you can't just say "durr 99.9% of normies don't care" when 99.9% of normies also don't watch vtubers.

Hogwarts harassment was real, froot was complicit, it would have been nice if they had defended silver but when even people within side against you and agree with the boycott then there's nothing you can do.
The bullying by staff over it is a whole seperate issue. That's "let's surpass nijisanji in cartoon villainy" tier in absolutely every context

>>102696202
It's not. Things have quieted down overnight every night since it started. Tomorrow it picks up again

>>102696202
Yep. I think we can go back to normal tomorrow.

Went back and listened to the song on Mint's stream when Mouse was in chat, holy shit I've been sleeping on her
Incredible singing, VShojo fumbled hard by dragging their feet

VShojo 2

the controversy over the black samurai was something that could have been easily avoided anyway, it almost makes me think ubisoft deliberately baited controversy- the guy the asscreed was based off was never a 'real' full samurai but he was allowed to carry swords so the distinction once again comes down to the definition of words. if they had just said the dude was a retainer or whatever it would have been historically close enough

>>102696089
>actually sold only 785k copies max
>barely 65k people played it
Ubidrone... please...

>>102696222
Get a load of this retard
>>102696259
Literally only retards cared. Most people thought it was cool

>>102696179
sales and pre-order number do count though
you know what also doesn't count? enraged culture war retards, be it from the west or japan

we are in the brown eye of the storm.

>>102696241
>>102696235
Aethel said he wanted to say more things but said it's Nyan's story to tell
Pink cat will be dropping her own Nuke
not to mention Silver deleted stream from her schedule that was supposed to happen today
no way she did that randomly
She's also perpping her own nuke and doesn't want to deal with tourists in her chat

it is FAR from over

>>102696033
Isshin Ashina does not belong to the Japanese Imperial Family. When Japanese people refer to the ‘Imperial Family’ or the Emperor, they specifically mean people who are part of the Japanese royal bloodline. Isshin Ashina’s character is based on Ashina Moriuji, a Sengoku-era warlord, and he was not of imperial descent. Figures like Tokugawa Ieyasu, Oda Nobunaga, or even Tōjō Hideki were rulers but not members of the Imperial Family either. That’s why you can freely kill such figures in a game without offending Japanese people.

>>102696259
pope magic aliens are fine though

>>102696306
i have no horse in this race i just saw an opportunity to be a history sperg and ran with it

>>102696259
the only historical inaccuracy was that they called him a full-fledged samurai, which he wasn't
but that's about it, he was a real person and a retainer, which is why no one besides twitter freaks got mad
but not that historical accuracy was the actual complaint anyways, it was about race from the get-go

>>102696202
Its probably like 2-3 more weeks of this and then nothing until after the lawsuits

So is gunrun turning himself in to the police?

>>102696259
>ubisoft deliberately baited controversy
Exactly.
>it would have been historically close enough
It wouldn't. The guy who wrote the books about him (that turned out to be nothing more than a fan fiction) got outed as a liar.

>>102696342
Sting's band?

>>102696146
She will stream when she runs out of money and needs another hype train cash injection.

>>102696259
Yasuke was in Nioh and no-one batted an eye

>>102696351
>It wouldn't. The guy who wrote the books about him (that turned out to be nothing more than a fan fiction) got outed as a liar.
You're so deep in the psycho online lies you can't see the exit bro

>>102696383
because Nioh is a fantasy

>>102696202
Digitrevx is posting again, mel isn’t getting out of this one clean

>>102696383
and many other japanese-made media
but I guess brainrto was not as far spread back then like it's now

>>102696342
I'd like to think he'll try and fix things in a way that doesn't require going to jail. Whether the talents accept that is another thing entirely. And I don't mean that as in they'll be out for blood I mean that as in the amount of money owed is so high he probably can't pay it back in a timely manner at all and trying to get him to pay it will probably only end poorly.

I do feel bad for the guy cause that's gotta be a shitty situation to be in. But also it seems like it would have been really easy to not get into this situation in the first place lol

>>102696409
so is ass creed

>>102696409
So is AC bubba

>>102696409
AC literally have fucking magic and aliens in it you retard

>>102696279
where did you get those numbers?

>>102696402
You just couldn't help yourself but to project.

>>102696417
>I do feel bad for the guy cause that's gotta be a shitty situation to be in
you mean the situation he put himself in by his actions?
damn poor guy...

>>102696436
Literally do a second of research outside of listening to Grummz and Tectone

look man i dont know what you guys are going on about i just think i should get to drink ironmouse's pink right from the source

>>102696409
the assassin order is quite literally fan fiction of the hashashin order that existed IRL
not to mention all the alien stuff and also myth stuff in Odyssey

>>102696456
Post Froot porn or I'm going to snitch

>>102696434
steamdb. the amount of sold copies is also there and it counts console copies too

>>102696402
source? I saw actual japanese historians talk about it and all of them said that he existed and was a retainer to Nobunaga

>>102696456
I want her to rim me

>>102696487
>SteamDB
>Counting console copies
??? nigga what

Think saba ,nimi and dooby where also going to be picked up?
I think back to when mouse talked about people crying about people leaving a company, then joked about how people say " if your wondering where your vtuber is after graduation check vshojo"

I genuinely wonder if there was things like Vexpo, Mel’s merch up to 40 days more, Mouse’s concert, and likely Twitchcon where those three idiots just going to roll with it until whatever happens

>>102696487
nigga, those are guesstimations, they don't have access to actual numbers, steamdb admits so themselves

>>102696417
his only choice will be to live he rest of his life in indentured servitude

>>102696509
Nimi? Doubtful
Dooby? Confirmed no
Saba? There's a rrat that she has something to say, but she's not speaking up so it's only a rrat. Would be interesting though

>>102696420
>>102696425
>>102696428
I meant the games before Black Flag, you obtuse retards. The franchise went to complete shit after that.

>>102696471

>>102696491
meant for >>102696351

>>102696531
It had magic and aliens in the first fucking game my god dude.

>>102696533
good thing this is censored or you'd be in trouble

>>102696455
Way to out yourself, buddy. Keep going.

>>102696533
Damn. I mean not my thing but you did as requested so I won't snitch.

>>102696440
What else did he expect working with a bunch of WOMEN (derogatory)

*making a series of ever louder farting noises by cupping my hands over my mouth to drown u out*

>>102696531
bruh, alien artifacts were introduced in the first fucking game back in 2007, with the aliens themselves debuting in AC2, made in 2009
you fucking retards don't play games and it shows

>>102696566
calm down gun

>>102696528
The way vei talked about gun there is no way he wasn't foaming at the mouth to get saba.
She probably would have had a better contract then mouse..... hmmm

>>102696546
>>102696572
>retards latch onto words and completely missing the point
classic, nothing surprising here
>you fucking retards don't play games and it shows
ironic

>>102696555
Oh it's a real life grummz felcher in the flesh

Really though I hope tomorrow's the last day of the drama. I'm glad people are saying their piece and all that but I really would like a return to normalcy. I liked watching Zen and Henya stream today. Made it feel like old times again even though both were still heavily influenced by everything

>>102696531
the magic pope aliens were from AC2 and brotherhood

>>102696613
Stop talking about yourself in third person, for the love of God.

>>102696562
Well excuuuuuuse me
sorry it's not racially charged futa or whatever
picky bitch

>>102696611
>Ac games have alien and myth stuff in them
>"I meant the games before Black Flag, you obtuse retards"
>erm, you guys can't read
what fucking cope is this?
and I was a religious AC fan untill like Unity, so don't try with that "ironic" bullshit

>>102696635
they were not ALIENS aliens, but yeah

>>102696610
honestly she's probably better off never even mentioning it if she wasn't impacted much, she only followed gunrun less than a month ago apparently so she probably didn't get very deep in the process if she actually was joining

>>102696643
I mean it doesn't have to be racially charged but futa is pretty cool. I'm just not a boobjob kinda anon. Nice art though I like the horns

>>102696634
I think we’re going to 11 if Mouse really does the tactical nuke

>>102696634
With this post, you have all but guaranteed that tomorrow Mouse reveals Gunrun is in the epstein files

>>102696611
This is what someone who gets all their info from twitter accounts looks like. You're like a fucking teenage girl, man up.

>>102696660
>what fucking cope is this?
Idk, you tell me what kind of coping olympic program do you performing right now

>>102696701
Mouse will 100% be a nuke, but also unless she decides to go rogue I HIGHLY doubt she'll drop that nuke before the NDA is officially dead, which it probably won't be for a few weeks.

And honestly by that point I'll probably be back into dramawhore mode and I'll be happy for it. I just want a break at this point lmao

>>102696726
>do you performing

>>102696730
Mouse's nuke will probably take the longest out of everyone's to get revealed. Not just because of NDAs but also due to any lawsuits regarding the charity money

x/v/sj+

>>102695665
though given what we know now, if that were the case it would have been because she didnt tell MTD where he could have found the good shit.

>>102696750
>no rebuttal
as expected

>>102696635
The aliens were from AC2 onwards, but AC1 already had the alien macguffins, just to further clarify things.

you come to my thread on the day of my bug daughter's not-debut
and shitpost about asscreed lore

Have you guys seen the new southpark.
Seeing anyone bring up how gun was straight up embezzling and should be in jail reminds me of Pc principle saying
>Its 2025. Not much is illegal.

>>102696869
I wish she could have debuted under better circumstances but she's cute.

>>102696944
i remember what happened to grimmi. it kinda sucks that these are the circumstances but if they play their cards right they can easily ride the drama buff to at least being comfortable financially

>>102696660
You call yourself a religious fan yet you clearly don't know the lore besides basic "hurr eiliens durr majick" and how the franchise positioned itself prior to Unity. That's funny.

>>102696975
alien magics were introduced in the very first game, you claimed they didn't exist until Black Flag, and now you're coping for some reason

>>102696906
>Have you guys seen the new southpark.
No. Is there a new episode or something?

>>102694081
This seems overly dismissive during the time where every insane theory has turned out to be true

im going to keep posting this until you guys stop

>>102697005
>you claimed they didn't exist until Black Flag
You're getting mad at things that you made up in your head. I'm not gonna waste my time on you anymore.
>and now you're coping for some reason
Again with the irony. Keep going.

last thread before primetime
>>102697039
>>102697039
>>102697039

>>102697011
first episode premiered yesterday?
it would be depressing how real it is if it wasn't good for a laugh or two.

>hololive lives rent free in Gunrun's head
>you are now reminded of picrel of when he tried to become a meme like YAGOO
Was it jealousy all this time?

>>102697064
That was Michi's idea

>>102697062
Ah, well no wonder I didn't know about it.

>>102697064
Wait so Gunrun was to Hololive as Seth was to 3am?

>>102697075
You have a clip of that?

>>102696972
>what happened to grimmi
Is beri going to get bug shit all over my floor

>>102697064
>hololive lives rent free in Gunrun's head
god that recent Rolling Stones article is so embarrassing now

>>102697101
its on paramount if you have it,
but its also been uploaded to your local pirate ship

>>102697167
Dude, come on. Why are you gangstalking me

>>102697167
No, scatfag, stop it, cease, shoo

>>102697184
I usually watch new episodes on official South Park website, but I think I'll sail the high seas this time, because the new episode is not available there yet.

>>102697260
Are there any good sites for this stuff? I don't wanna torrent just need a stream site

>>102697505
I wouldn't trust a random link from an Indian basket forum.

>>102697505
the one mouse uses is good.
But try checking fmovies if you have antivirus and adblockers installed.