Thread 102735916

Oaf Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Keep things comfy, etc.

Image source: https://x.com/uruu_luca/status/1946376960134840749

/xvsj+/ includes:
Ama - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>102731277

Pink Cat live en forma de nihongo

Geega's massive geegs

>>102735975
nah bro, what the ABSOLUTE FUCK???

(ogre laugh)

Looking for Pia refs and lol her 1.0 looks so goofy

>>102735975
Give Geega huge futa cock to match her big tits

Yo niggas
swarmchad here

Dont let Camila grift you bros, she's a known leech and grifter that will self insert in any drama just for views, make sure to call her out

thank you for that image of piapiufo last thread where she was sucking a cock

IM is faking it

already page 2?
c'mon payed shitters, do your job

>>102736091
Everyone in this thread agreed that having a grudge over a failed job interview 3 years ago is pathetic

Geega is jerking it

Where will mouse go from here?

>>102736091
We know. She's just a Vedal simp who clout chases everyone she can. Nobody here was surprised that her announcement was fucking nothing.

IM is shaking it

I'm compiling a list of people who are/were owed money from VShojo
Here's what I can recall, let me know if I'm missing something or if I'm wrong
>$500k to the IDF
>The equivalent of a house to Mouse
>The equivalent of a Ferrari to Kson (Likely over $200k)
>An undisclosed amount to Henya
>An undisclosed amount to Michi
>An undisclosed amount to Zen
>An undisclosed amount to Kuro
>An undisclosed amount to Mint
>All the other new hires (Beri, Tori, Feebee, Pia, and others who have yet to be revealed) also had debut budgets they received no compensation for
>Nova is owed merch money from their debut, valentine's, and birthdays
>Geega is owed "something"
>Nyan was owed the equivalent of a Mercedes S-Class (Likely over $100k; according to her video she eventually managed to recover it thanks to a lawyer after she left)
>Silver was owed money (Likely has been partially paid overtime but she is still owed money for tons of sponsors like Smite and Ironside)
>Vei was owed money for sponsors (Only some of it got paid overtime, not all)
>Potentially money to Mata as well
>Bricky is owed $15,000
>Panora Virtual Reality Japan is owed money as well
>Various contractors and such
>Any lenders they borrowed money from
>A bunch of artists are either owed money or received it very late (if any notable artists in particular with a large sum let me know then I'll list them specifically)
>Half of this thread for shitposting about Vei without pay (for legal reasons this is a joke)

A Japanese cyptobro claims that there were talks to acquire VShojo for $2,000,000 that they ultimately backed out on since the financials of the business looked very unprofitable. This could possibly be a baseline for the total amount of money VShojo owes minus the lost charity money. But given the increasingly large list of debts it could very well be even higher than this.
>https://x.com/CL207/status/1947911415651512533

>>102736091
I think everyone sane sees through that. Imagine hyping up and resurfacing your nothingburger (comparatively) audition experience because you get an opportunity to insert yourself.

>>102736139
kek why did they include vei in this?

>>102736116
>No human feet
I will now anti Grape

>>102736157
ADD MY FUCKING LITTLE CAESARS

>>102736157
>Still not mentioning that Gunrun owes me $5 for a Little Caesar's Hot-N-Ready™ pizza
FUCKING COME ON DUDE YOU HAVE ONE JOB

>>102736091
It was already clear to us here when everyone clocked it as a nothingburger. The only part of that might have been notable is the hush money stuff.

apek you faggot I don't give a fuck if you did or didn't have a relationship with mel but you don't get to fucking walk away while gunrun and mtd are burning on the crosses, you deserve to be up there with them as part of the fuckup

>>102736157
I'm a coke dealer and they owe me 200 grand

>>102736007
Every time I see this posted it actually gets funnier for me

>>102736157
>Not adding the anons who are owed for buying gunrun pizza
I have no choice but to conclude that you're Gunrun himself

>>102736116
Is Grape + if she collabed with Zen once?

MTD could've at least done some blackmail and sex shit. He was in a position to be the Harvey Weinstein of the Vtuber world but he blew it on retarded fratboy creep shit.

>>102736139
2 seems the most entertaining

>>102736235
>Gunrun
At least "took responsibility" even if he tried to claim he "didn't know" it was charity money like a retard and it was disproven fucking immediately. His god damn lawyer must be having a panic attack over his retardation.
>MTD
Tried to pin all the blame on Gunrun and virtue signal. Actual piece of shit. Deserves castration.
>Apek
Coward, pure and simple. Content to let everyone else take the blame.

>>102736316
There's plenty of time to find out that he did do that sort of stuff anon

*stumbling into thread, collapsing to floor and spilling a half full bottle of shitty vodka* mouse open up a mousely

>>102736341
He should come out with all of it. What I'm seeing is just pathetic.

>>102736355
go home mtd, you're not welcome here

check dm

>>102736414
im not mtd im just horny

>>102736117
yeah, stroke game needs work

>>102736430
And you wanna spank it to Ironmouse? Of all people? You know her immune deficiency is genetic, right? I dunno maybe I'm weird but whenever I find out a woman has some extremely debilitating condition that could be passed to my kids I instantly lose all possible attraction to her.

>>102736052
It was a different time

>>102736428
Aethel losing his sanity little by little every DM was funny

>>102736506
i want to take care of and nurture a sickly woman like a genteel 1800s aristocrat

>>102736428
stop sending ur hole pls

>>102736091
I wish she would leech directly from my cock.

>>102736510
I'm a little scared to find out the exact details in those DMs that led to him going insane over it

>>102736091
Honestly I'm just glad that she wasn't actually one of unrevealed /in/dies. Otherwise we'd have to add her to the OP.

>>102736578
after he read one it sounded like whatever mouse wrote happened to nyan as well as her

>>102736428
CU CK LOSER BITCH

>>102736506
Bro you have it easy, I stopped thinking froggy is kinda cute the moment I heard she has wonky knees

Imagine if you are a vtuber and everyone you went to a con party with has a story about MTD creeping on them, except for you.

>>102736326
>even if he tried to claim he "didn't know" it was charity money like a retard and it was disproven fucking immediately
It wasn't so much disproven as it was him getting caught covering his tracks. The retweets and his statement didn't contradict each other in that it was plausible that somehow their accounting didn't delineate mousey's subathon from the rest of her regular streaming. Basically "I knew she did well at subathon but I thought the money we were stealing was just from her usual streams".
Unfortunately, ignorance of that being the case would have been a show of gross incompetence on his part.
It wasn't until he started deleting retweets as a kneejerk reaction to people saying he retweeted the subathon's success that he played himself.

>>102736635
Yes but we don't know exactly what it is
Plus Mouse sent multiple too so who knows what those other ones said

The "Compel VShojo to Pay Up" Dance!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1u8cyEGVno

>>102736689
close the tab, Geega

>>102736689
So Geega?

>>102736689
geega...

>>102736635
Probably shit they were telling behind the scenes about Nyan and who was doing it

>You will now remember that Nyan did a stream where Goro ran away and made a scam vtuber company to pay off a debt
Was the writing always too much in our noses?

>>102736731
>>102736736
>>102736746
Geega never met mtd irl

>>102736731
>>102736736
>>102736746
Geega could tell he was a creep and gave him advice to succesfully fuck women but he didn't listen

>>102736689
MTD stayed away from the married ones

>>102736782
This is extremely Geega coded

>>102736760
I feel like an idiot because I thought about the VNUS stuff recently and didn't connect the dots...

PEAK IS BACK https://x.com/PekeIsPeak/status/1948958376228258091

>>102736760
Analyse the entire stream for hidden meanings

>>102736783
It's true. He was too intimidated by me, her husband

>>102736821
Looks like we'll learn more about her side of the collapse today

>>102736844
I posted this.

>>102736875
>gomen I gambled it all away

>>102736825
the slime was an allegory

>>102736916
>the milking stream was about Gunrun milking his talents
BRAVO NYANJIMA

>>102736760
She does it again

>>102736875
Probably what Hotaru said that they didnt get paid for their debut merch

>>102736760
Didn't one of the male vtuber get cancelled for sexpesting and partying?

>>102736760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v0iusDIUw4&t=240s
AYAKA ASUKISSA = KSON

Welcome home pink cat sex
https://files.catbox.moe/35bt8w.png

Zen philosophy

wat dat geega doin?

>>102737014
She's right. Every year since like 2020 has gotten more ass

>>102736760
You think this common trope of writing a really obvious fucking message into a play is way too on the nose but here we are. YET AGAIN.

>GAY WOMEN
Beri is being extra thirsty from all that tummyhort.

>>102737040
*1999

>>102737008
pint cat sex

I hope mouse feels good enough to do bloodborne soon I want to see more of that new model it's so byootiful

Can I post bat here?

>>102737058
you know what
you right

i don't care about the drama i just want to wrap my arms around a bbw

>>102737023
new pc?

>>102736825
>The first vtuber in that stream was a bug
>Beri is a bug
THE PLOT THICKENS

>>102736974
kek found it

>>102737092
Literally nothing stopping you from posting about anyone at this point

>>102736760
She literally called it Vnus. A literal triple entendre playing on anus, a shortening of Venus (like how shojo is a shortening of shoujo), and having a name starting with V. Don't tell me you guys didn't notice this at the time and thought it was just about Niji back when it came out...

>>102737159
I remember this my nigga Emmanuel deserved better

>>102737184
I mean the demon guy is a pretty straight 1:1 parody of Vox lol. and people even when it was debuting were calling the cow girl Bunny_gif. And the green girl was obviously parodying the Taiwan thing.

>>102736760
la creatividad

I held of on listening to mouse's music box of fate until the video and I am sitting here just stunned at what an experience it is. Any streamers react to it on stream?

>>102737184
>Don't tell me you guys didn't notice this at the time
This thread is full of a bunch of retards who bought into the Vei and Silver anti-ing completely so I'm not surprised they didn't notice.

>>102737159
lol

It all makes sense now

I SEE NOW

>>102737005
This stream was pure kino.
I'm glad Nyan is feeling better lately. Maybe she's got some banger creatividad left in her.

>>102737399
kek

Henya beat Megaman 2

>>102737289
Nothing aside from Marco, but it came out today, we'll have to wait a bit.

>>102737296
Now they're focusing on anti-ing Mel.

so vshojo seven deadly sins
apek: wrath
gurun: greed, envy
mtd: lust, pride, sloth
nyan: gluttony

>>102737506
based dayo

>>102737571
Yeah it's pretty blatantly just retards who live for drama and are trying to keep the high from the other day going by making shit up
For all we know Mel is guilty, but that's the thing. No one knows shit

Mel ain't gonna return in 2 weeks LMAO

>>102737588
>nyan: gluttony
Wrong. Actual answer.

>>102737644
If she's guilty, then we deny her orgasms!

>>102737684
fat fuck

if mel's guilty, i say we spank her.

Okay but what if the money was just sucked by a rogue black hole?

>>102737644
malicious compliance. i know they are your beloved vtubers but they are trying to get away with murder and some of us don't like it.

>>102737830
I wish I could get sucked by a rogue pink cat.

5 seconds of Henya karaoke

just saying
>/vt/ jannies ban a literal infant
>suddenly, matara leaves vshojo
>geega leaves vshojo
>zentreya leaves vshojo
>mouse leaves vshojo
>vshojo exposed for with holding talent money and embezzeling funds
>every fucking member leaves

>>102737296
Brother are you sure you were here when that happened? No one was antiing vei, in fact most anons were surprised vei did a pretty dignified exit. Don't know why you keep trying to push this narrative. In most cases unprompted. Like in this case

Fernando must have made bank and retired to his own private island.

>>102737937
This is correct. We only anti'd silver because she deserved it. But now she has redeemed herself and promoted IM's charity in an effort to mend bridges so all is forgiven.

>>102738072
>IM

>>102737929
the only person whining about that pedo avatarfag is you

>>102737693
Hot

>>102737937
There were months of sperging about soda, but it predates vei actually leaving.

>>102738096
Aw poor mtd

>>102738116
Yeah, that's true the vei sperging was pre exit, by the time she left things were relatively chill with her itt

What do you guys think of cheladas?

Nyan paid me to call her fat bitch

>>102738207
I knew it!

mint castella (who is a plus thanks to geega and girls FC) is playing halo with her chatters and is now drunk enough to sing along to mountain goats songs

>>102738257
Mint is a fat bitch who has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, fuck off.

>>102738257
Plus to what ?

>>102738257
Post fat mint castella gyaru tits if you're here

>>102738278
sorry anon, she's an ex-plus and therefore on topic, rules are rules

>>102738257
Also mei is with tobs and a bunch of liggers in tob's stream

>>102738358
She isn't a fucking plus and never was. Being friends with a VSJ member doesn't make you on topic here, eat shit.

>>102738289
now why would i do that

>>102738283
Plus size

inb4 Mel does a dokibird and avoids criticism by sewer sidering her self in minecraft.and blames gun.

>>102738358
>who is a plus thanks to geega and girls FC
You know you’re full of shit yourself otherwise you wouldn’t have added that. Now fuck off and troll in another thread nigger

>>102738386
>>102738386
WAIT WHAT.
She is singing Mountain Goats Songs looking like that? Who is this and how do I experience this?

>>102738407
If taking dicks on camera and ruining any relationship with her parents she ever could have had didn't make her Kermit, this won't either. Even if she does get implicated at all she's just going to ignore all of it and live off her simps until everyone forgets.

>>102738456
https://www.twitch.tv/mintcastella
>>102738446
is this a schizo?

I hear vshojo was losing 2.5 million a year?

>>102738489
True and gay

>>102738483
Probably, don't know why he's getting this mad about it

>>102738489
you are just looking at the investment money they got, you forgot the money they stole from everyone

>pia has been having nightmares for the last 3 or 4 weeks
bro

>>102738257
>>102738483
>>102738528
Buy a fucking ad. Nobody cares about this fat stoner.

>>102738483
>"Please wait warmly"
>Play Hootenanny from CD-ROM
>Anime Web Turnpike
Normally I would dip when seeing someone new but ending up on their waiting screen, but I am sold by this.

Yeah I think they fucking

anon (who is a plus because he got jerked off by a drunk matara kan at weebcon after a hot flash made her briefly uncontrollably horny) is posting with us
RIGHT
NOW

>>102738577
what about mori carriope ?

>>102738483
>>102738528
No one that makes an actual on-topic post has to justify why they’re making it. Your subconscious betrays you.

So far, geega is the corporate drone wife talking to you about her KPIs, while Pia still has a gleam in her eye and yaps about anything and everything.

I hear Gunrun was the second shooter that participated in the assassination of John F Kennedy along with Lee Harvey Oswald.

>>102738626
Shut up.
No I'm not.

>>102738489
some people are saying this and it might be true and if it is true that's big honestly that is just my opinion though tb&qh

>>102738619
you can tell how much mouse has been going through it with how sappy she has been lately. hope things get better soon for her.

My plus is inside HenyaTheGenius's belly right now

>>102738626
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME

Which xvsj's (in lore) could beat LeBron in a 1 on 1 basketball game? You must adhere to the rules of the game and can't kill him.

Connorsperg was probably a Vshojo astroturfer trying to cause a rift between Mouse and her support.

>>102738645
>>102738645
>explaining why your post is on topic is off topic
huh

>>102738789
nazuna because she is michael jordan obviously

>>102738743
yoink

>>102738810
God I want to fuck her in a cheap con hotel room and then sneak away in the morning and pretend I never met her

>>102738789
Does being a slime give you an advantage in basketball?

>>102738789
Not Hime. She's so big every time she touches the ball she would be out of bounds.

>>102738810
You are retarded. Just what I expected.

i paid 10s of thousand dollars to Mel's vibrator now I have doubts it was inside her but inside her boyfriends ass instead and I busted so many fat nuts

>>102738863
there is no need to be upset about the cartoons

>>102738808
It's definitely not true but it would be hilarious if Vshojo tried to push the single thing on Mouse for more views or something. At this point I'd believe it.

>>102738808
I was watching Connor's stream today for the first time in a while, very comfy MGS3. I don't get how people can get upset at the guy

idk why henya is acting so surprised. shes watched speedruns before

>>102738894
NTA but please go back to your containment thread. We will stay in ours and you stay in yours, that's fair.

>>102738934
goldfish memory

>>102738934
She probably forgot them

https://x.com/mcshakleford/status/1948903791530570073
lol

>>102738576
Poor girl, hope things can get better for her once the stress dies down

>>102738934
She's a professional entertainer. She's being entertaining.

>>102738946
>we

>>102738910
either someone still butthurt over his holo comments ages ago or unironic mouse goslings. tbf it doesn't help that anons like to bait him with any girl he hangs with most recently henya.

>>102738910
content brained. everything he does is fake and not genuine

>>102738894
And you can stop trolling now. but you will reply to this anyway because you hope you can waste my time jokes on you I’m unemployed

>>102738983
>>102739016
>>102739034
nah bro, what the ABSOLUTE FUCK???

Did someone forget to bake /lig/ or something?

Report the dumb fucking bats for spamming/flooding. /lig/ is raiding us.

We're under a bat

Gunrun "launched" Melody on Twitch in 2020? That's something I've never heard before.
What does that even mean?

>>102739148
Nah this is just a rogue schizo

>>102739148
he is not from lig, unless you think spamming Lumi there makes him one

>>102739173
He put her on a catapult

>>102739173
These slides are so cringe is that really what you have to put up with if you want money from someone else? Just add a few numbers best case worse case

>>102739193
>he is not from lig
>Mint Castella shilling randomly
>bat spam starts right after people tell him to go away
Yeah sure bro.

>>102738854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HidO_T_M_Y

>>102736054
No, we don't hyper here. Hyper bad

>>102739212
Please stop.

>>102739173
first Twitch stream as appose to CB

>>102739173
What a cool guy, wonder what he did in the following years

>>102739173
I assume it is basically Gun being Mel's manager for twitch. We know he was the old person handling stuff for lewdcasts like the questions on screen.

Do yall think Vei will stream tomorrow?

>>102739173
According to Mel when Geega interviewed her, Gun pushed her to start streaming on Twitch to begin with.

>>102739173
>Claiming Mel was the biggest EN vtuber
Lmao yeah sure okay bud

>>102739211
just report him and see what is going to be deleted

>>102739222
>posts kendrick lamar hinting at pedos
>sends kisses in a highschooler chat
is geega self reporting?

Bat say your safeword, for the love of god!

>>102739056
sorry anon mint used to collab with geega AND bat/grape (who are also pluses by the way) every week, and now that it's ex-vshojo+ general ex-pluses are now on topic

>on July 22, 2024, Claimant entered into a contract with an owner of the afore-described real property... , to perform water mitigation for the afore-described property
https://x.com/ProjektMelody/status/1815592529200394627

>>102737399
Kino cinema she hasn't lost her touch she's in her prime.

>>102739274
when geega was good

>>102739310
I bet she didn't even cum yet

>>102739273
soda wont be home, so possibly

11 more

>>102739294
She was at the time, yes.
>>102739173
Mel was originally just going to be a CB streamer. Gun convinced her to try regular streaming on Twitch out.

bro
pia just unpacked this from her luggage

>>102739394
The fuck was that

>>102739337
That’s why I enjoy 4chan sometimes

VShojo 2

>>102739394
her model looks like she's constantly climaxing

>>102739404
Oh the figures

>>102739394
>rtx streaming
aaaand dropped

>>102738961
kek wasn't mel complaining about water damage at the same time?

i'm not the guy spamming bat i just like fat bitches btw

>>102738548
>>102738489
>>102738656
No one cares about finance nitpicking on /vt/, but I'm drunk and annoyed, so here we go.

People theorycrafting corporate finances online, with minimal information, is utter ass. One person will say "they lost X per year" and someone else comes back with "no they had to be losing Y per year" because no one stops to actually clarify if their handwave estimates are gross expenditures, net losses, or negative net cashflow.
The fact is we don't know any of those numbers.
Here's my approach with BIG UPFRONT ASSUMPTIONS.

Let's assume the following:
(1) The $11M of equity and/or debt financing was publicized in March 2022 is the only external financing (probably not true!).
(2) We will ignore any initial personal investment made by the founders (probably should be >$0, but utterly unknown).
(3) Cashflow was low enough to stop some payouts in mid-2024 (based on Kson's statements).
(4) VShojo continued to pay for basic salaries and services into Q2 2025, thus they may have had $1M to $2M in their accounts before they started tightening up in mid-2024 (wild guess based on my personal experience with salaries and services).
With those assumptions, I will estimate their negative net cashflow.

This would have had to be $4M to $5M per year, for the approximately-two-years from March 2022 to the middle of 2024.

NOTE #1: This DOES NOT actually tell you how much money they were "losing" in terms of net losses!
This is just an estimate of negative cashflow that may have forced their hand. From what we know, they probably had more unpaid invoices, contracts, etc. and simply not paid out yet. Worded differently: their negative net cashflow (the $4M-$5M estimate) probably under-estimates their true accounting losses.

NOTE #2: You may think "Wow $4M/year is a lot!" but maybe not? You need to know more. It is very different to have your business "lose $4M" when you take in $100M and spend $104M than it is to "lose $4M" when you take in $10M and spend $14M.

FINAL NOTE: If you change ANY small detail of of my 4 assumptions above, the numbers change. Accounting speculation is fraught and kinda pointless when you have this little information.

>>102739451
Read thread please
>>102739337

>>102739337
this guy really hates paying for things, including his own talents lol (unless the money is going to mel of course)

Sometimes when a greater evil reveals itself, the target changes...

>>102738910
its only the Monkesperg he can make world peace and he wil still cry about him

>>102739047
im sorry he called your holokeks talentless whores who fuck 70 year old men and cuck entire fanbase.

>>102739337
I don't want to believe

>>102739598
It's over, anon.

>>102739491
I see you tagged me in this. Can you tldr this post for me?

Shut up. I estimate Gunrun's salary was 0.999 million per month based on the fact that it's a cool number that let's you claim your salary is six figures to LIE.

>>102739598
For now this is only further proof she lived with him all those years and still is now in Japan. My guess is they’re married, like most vtubers are.

Still doesn’t confirm she’s evil, but I bet more will come out soon

Do you think Mel fucked Apek, MTD, and Gunrun, possibly all at the same time? They did have some wild after parties afterall...

>>102739173
The slides are fucking awful I was done checking them out. I'm not a biz but someone smarter than me could read all that shit.
But jesus fucking christ, we were joking with the retirement home memes.

>>102739663
The real question will be if/when she comes back in 2 weeks, assuming that much time passes without something else leaking.

What’s yalls favorite type of meat to eat?

>>102739675
Mel is a bottom, they fucked her

>>102739701
I just read a hypothetical about shrimp so now I have a craving.

>>102739701
Lamb is so underrated

I guess this was the closest they ever got about the game that was being done.

>>102739727
Shit I don't even remember seeing that piece of art or a title. Only an announcement that it was happening. Wonder how much if anything was done before the studio shut down

>>102739726
I've been craving a lamb kebab badly

I do not care what any retard on 4chan says or even finds unless someone actually affected by any of this implicates Mel in any of it I consider her pure and naive

>>102739630
People on the internet who say "VShojo lost X per year" without saying what they mean by "lost", and without specifying their assumptions are telling you nothing.
I gave a better example of an estimate with assumptions.
But if you change parts of my assumptions it's all different.
Because ultimately we don't fucking know, and people should stop acting like we do.

I guess this is Omega

>>102739727
It's amazing the shit they thought they could do with literally no money

>>102739752
Lamb is just so flavorful and tender

>>10273975
>pure
She is as far from pure as the edge of observable universe.

>>102739768
>Believed in the vision of Justin and left Cover to join VShojo
Are you telling me not only did we poach talent but we actually poached employees too?

The source hid what they made from Smite and the Mouse subathon... didn't know my ass

>>102739701
I fucking love all kinds of chicken

>>102739685
kek

>>102739701
frootcock

>>102739768
Alex is probably the guy Kaho talked about right?
>>102739755
Pretty much my take. Considering this was brought up by someone with an obvious axe to grind and it's being pushed by people who just want more drama and don't care about anyone involved I'm waiting until someone involved actually calls her out before making a judgment call.

>>102739768
>Ex-Holo guy
He is the one who showed off ex-Vshojo members' doxx pictures to Kaho

>>102739755
An official document showing Daniel's property getting repaired for water damage at the same time as Mel said she's dealing with water damage isn't "retard on 4chan says".
You can just admit you're turning your brain off from observing reality.

This page is really funny
He was really in some high shit
>cosplayers
Pic of people that were paid.
>over 1MM
>super fans itasha
Senpai Squad were paid.

>>102739768
i fucking loathe corpo speak

>>102739836
Yeah you can’t go wrong with chicken

>>102739727
>Revenue Projection: Significant contribution to 2025 revenue with higher take rates
>80/20 splits with our talent
Vshojo 80
Talent 20

>>102739889
It's not. Literally any extrapolation beyond that is though and that's all any of this is.

>>102739768
I thought omega came in with project hope and council then got told to fuck off when their grand lore shit was bad

They were aiming to fucking $3M on merch renevue.

>>102738619
This is legitimately the first time I've ever seen anyone refer to their friend as "my rock". I've only ever seen that term of endearment used by married people to refer to how supportive their significant other has been.

>>102739890
No that's not a Senpai Squad car. Other fans did their own wraps. Like that Zen car people posted a lot wasn't Senpai Squad either.

>>102739834
man she really was their golden girl and they knew it

Okay the first one might have confirmed Saba, because we know one was Mint, but it says "VTUBERS"
They were aiming to fucking 40 talents, when they were suffering with 17

>>102739889
>You can just admit you're turning your brain off from observing reality.
Want a simpler answer? This is pretty much just doxxing Mel and I don't care atm about any of that shit.
Mel went silent for the next few weeks, so I'm not going to care about her, if it comes up from any other talent that she's somehow implicated, then I'm going to care.

>>102739755
These idiots think they can stop mel from stealing my seed

>>102739951
Mouse has also called r0xyy her rock. This is the first I've seen her say that about Monke though.

>>102739919
The conclusion is the most obvious one but you've been in denial about it and continue to be.

>>102739972
Ah so you're threatening with reports now.

>>102739890
>10,000+ applicants
lmao

>>102739927
They are so retarded if they would have focused on producing their own merch right after the investment this whole shit would have been a different story

>>102739927
Theoretically could have worked. If they were making 1.5m in revenue with merch (Which I am shocked is left in this document) then cutting down the costs by moving in house could have increased things substantially along with normal growth from having new vtubers like Mint in.

>>102739768
I must have missed the link above. Where's this deck at?

This might be the biggest shock.
The actual pictures are the people from NOVA (censored by the source)
Now, we know that one is Hotaru. Hestia is for sure just a streamer. And Nagi was a streamer

SO PEKE WAS FUCKING DOXXED, SHE WAS REALLY SOMEONE.

>>102739889
it doesn't mean anything at all other than they lived together. And hell it might not even be that, for all we know he could have just been a co-signer for the apartment. But even if it was more and they were together it doesn't in anyway mean Mel had anything to do with anything and while I would believe Mouse or Zen might not say something, there is no reason someone like Vei or Nyan or any of the others so far with a story to tell wouldn't also mention Mel having a hand in it. There is a reason non of the drama slop tubers are bring her up despite the obvious endless click bait it could create. If it does come out that Mel is involved i have no problem throwing her to the wolves like the others, but until then i feel just as bad for her as all of the others.

>>102740020
She's probably a voice actor.

>>102740020
i knew peke was fucking hot

>>102739997
Nigga when have I mentioned reports? Keep going with your sleuthing but don't expect anyone to give a shit and join you on your schizo venture. Wanna be a good poster? Make like the msm exposure schizo and just post when you get new shit

It’s crazy how vei gave us hints that Vshojo was bad for quite some time. But most just ignored her.

I fucking knew Zen was up to something with GFUEL
They wanted to catapult it into other brands.
>>102740017
https://x.com/uwunetes/status/1948963642419851731

>>102738619
Mouse's discord e-sex...

>>102739755
the problem here isn't mel being married with an alleged scumbag, it's this guy was the one managing vshojo finances or at least he had some role in doing so
if vshojo talents, mel included, weren't getting paid due to mismanagement that's a thing, but it would be a bit too naive to believe unfortunately

>>102740003
Might have been true since they were pushing for smaller ones this time.

>>102740020
Peke looks like a bitch

>Gunrun hired Omega to take another jab at Hololive, made EN better as a result and that's when the bad shit started getting worse in Vshojo
>They said they made Hololive English Gen 1 work
>THEY INCLUDED DOXX PICTURES IN THEIR INVESTMENT PITCHES
No words. Holy fuck.

DECK LINK?

Last one.
This is for the biz bros to calculate.
But that
>3.6M in renevue
to
>1.9M in salaries and payroll.
It's just too funny.

>>102739755
>>102739889
I mean it’s confirmed by now that she’s in a relationship with the COO. Doesn’t mean she ripped other people off as well. In a sense you’re both right. The retards on 4chan proofed she’s living with him but they have yet to proof she’s guilty of fraudulent activities

>>102740077
in this scenario i guarantee Mel would have been getting paid, because that would essentially be paying him, but that doesn't mean she knew the others weren't. I imagine Mel was more than happy not hearing about Vshojo finances, and if the guy was doing shady shit he was more than happy not to talk about it.

>>102740080
I mean I just think it's funny considering none of their auditions ever resulted in anything to be using that as a hype point

>>102740026
It doesn't even mean they lived together. He could have had it under his name for credit reasons. Mel being both a porn star and a vtuber would have struggled to find anybody willing to rent or give her a mortgage loan on shit. Mouse complained about the same thing.

Ignore antis. They don't know shit.

>>102740112
They are probably public figures, hence why they would advertise them

>>102740026
>it doesn't mean anything at all other than they lived together
Which has been denied all this time. What's next, she couldn't possibly know anything about him despite living in the same place?
>he could have just been a co-signer for the apartment
He's the only one mentioned in any documentation about it. It was his place.
>there is no reason someone like Vei or Nyan or any of the others so far with a story to tell wouldn't also mention Mel having a hand in it
There's one good reason: people like you
The moment they lay accusations against another vtuber they become targets themselves and the only thing that matters to the people taking sides is which one they like more.

>>102740129
Best part? None of that income went to the actual talents.

>>102740067
I mean, when someone asked her in chat if she was still on vshojo, she said "THANK GOD NO" with great relief

>>102740148
I mean they had a gen ready to debut. They just never did lol.

>>102740129
so they were profitable?

>>102740129
>97% AGR
Believable

>>102740129
Was their masterplan to get more talents but get rid of some managers?

>>102740197
Most just thought she was being a bitch though

>>102740074
A SEA branch?? Oh god they were gonna poach Ollie

>>102740149
>And hell it might not even be that, for all we know he could have just been a co-signer for the apartment.

>Mel being both a porn star and a vtuber would have struggled to find anybody willing to rent or give her a mortgage loan on shit

that was the exact point i was making

>>102740067
This is why her accusation that the VShojo COO pushed rrats on here more likely than not to be true. VShojo had every reason to want to discredit Vei

>>102740074
>lost $2.5 million
it's funny how that's exactly what my napkin math for the cost of their 40 staff was earlier

Mel is the manager from Perfect Blue

>>102740207
>
They were fully trusting on fucking liscensing the IPs
To fucking whom
>>102740231
Nah, just the merch stuff.

>>102740129
>2m in payroll
Paid for doing nothing?

>>102739988
If it turns out that Mel really was evil in all this I'm just gonna cum to her porn vods harder. Evil women are hot

>>102740189
>Which has been denied
It would have to be asked before its denied lol. And Vei said it herself. If someone tried to attack her during this she'd only get more popularity and support out of it.

>>102740129
>Bizbros
Yawn... so yet another speculation

>>102740149
>It doesn't even mean they lived together. He could have had it under his name for credit reasons.
How is that any better? You're sounding like some kind of freaky unicorn right now who only cares if she was fucking him or not. The relationship you're suggesting is worse because it's purely financial.

>>102740267
Could they have meant licensed merch like apari and the like?

>>102739996
It's a fitting metaphor but still legitimately baffles me that in 42 years that I've been on this mudball I've only ever heard anyone use this to refer to their husband or wife.

>>102740275
>Evil women are hot
You only say that because one has never destroyed your life. Evil women make me sick.

>>102740067
And for someone like me, this is like one big disaster I missed. I didn't jump in to vtubing until late 2022 and didn't even really get into VSJ until after Henya showed up. Like, I remember hearing about the Leavers but not really knowing what was going on.

>>102740267
What does IP licensing mean? People paying you to slap a V in their shit? Where they planning to take a cut from fan merch or what?

>>102740020
Yeah one is clearly Hotaru
Nagi and Hestia were kinda nobodies in the jp indie world
So yeah that leaves Peke as a the second image wonder who she was
But anyways how in the world did they convinced Hotaru and Peke to join if they had a career already
Also something I’ve noticed Peke is the only one that refers to mouse as mousey senpai so she was probably a viewer or something in that aspect

>>102740298
I think that's more of a partnership. Licensing would be stuff like SMITE

employee from a certain company here, i hate how overnight we got like 200+ auditions out of nowhere. our backlog was nearly cleared out last week and we could keep up with the new applications :(

>>102740147
in this case mel would have been negligent at least, which is better than malicious ofc, but it still needs to be accounted for

>>102740189
>There's one good reason: people like you
wow you sure quoted me a lot except for the part where i said i would have no problem throwing mel to the wolves if she was involved. im not even a Mel fan bro, i dont think ive seen a single second of her outside a collab. i'm just not in the business of accusing someone of heinous shit when there is no evidence of it at all despite plenty of opportunities for there to be

>>102740303
>mouse has a bisexual harem
h-hot

>>102740339
Well if they went with "look at SMITE collab" that makes sense but I'd guess it made fuck all money with how dead the game was

>>102740326
>>102739727

Why was Gunrun so obsessed with Hololive?

>>102740378
It was supposedly a really popular partnership. From what I've heard the SMITE players just want more hot girl skins so having 6 hot anime girls suddenly join the game in a collab was like a dream come true lmao

>>102740341
Keep selling Coffee fish man

When was the last time Mouse collabed with Mel?

>>102740395
Was Gunrun the one pushing us to vote for Vshojo in those Fortnite surveys? lmao

>>102740341
how long with 10k auditions take?

>>102740335
they got a fat check to join, didn't they? which hasn't been paid yet btw

>>102740356
>i'm just not in the business of accusing someone of heinous shit
What "heinous shit" have I accused her of? I just said she lived on that guy's property.

>>102740419
Probably lmfao
I don't know what was their big plan.

>>102740401
Bro was the King Tribalfag, he thought Vshojo's superior ideology would crush the evil japanese corporate opressors and liberate all corpo vtubers (so he could then recruit them).

>>102740419
Puppeteer put together all of the VShojo art she did https://x.com/puppeteer7777/status/1948639492111564893 and Ama wants one lol

>>102740402
Honestly, the worst part of all of this is that if they ran an even marginally leaner staff, this should would work. Unironically a generation fumble from Gun, though it's ofc all without taking into account just how much the talent merch cut was supposed to be.

@everyone i think i am ok enough to stream saturday night. see you guys soon. thank you for being so patient with me.

>>102740473
After the recent revelations, MTD 100% pushed for them to hire Puppeteer because he saw her tummy pics

>>102740459
>acting innocent
God I hate antis.

>>102740473
Wait that wasn't supposed to be a reply. But since I did by accident Highgai also replied

>>102740455
half an hour, you got with the first couple and trash the rest
you can't debut more than a couple people anyway

>>102740473
As much as we can shit on her art, it has a really strong "identity", kinda gives everyone crazy woman vibes

>>102740456
No they didn’t as far as I know unless can correct me
All I know is that Hotaru mentioned on her first independent stream was that they haven’t gotten paid for merch yet

>>102740472
That just sounds like /vsj+/ precollapse...

>>102740401
I genuinely don't know what his plan was, his fucking obsession run this shit to the ground.

>>102740507
Why can't you say what I've accused her of? You're claiming I'm "acting innocent" when listing the only claim I have ever made.
Mel won't fuck you.

>>102740472
at least his heart was in the right place

GEEGA SHOULD GO THROUGH THE PITCH DECK TOMORROW

>>102740473
>Your art is so beautiful
I know she's a monster fucker, but come on

>>102740524
somehow nazuna doesn't look that crazy here

>>102740535
Yeah but he was being 100% unironic and actually spending money on it.
I might not like Cover/Anycolor's deal but I'm not paying some nigga to talk shit about them lmao

>>102740524
Puppeteer's art is REALLY fucking good for a specific kind of character. Unfortunately imo it just didn't mesh well with most of the VShojo designs. But like I love this pic of Monaca she did because it fits super fucking well

>>102740504
who wouldn't have

>>102740565
Downs Zendrome my beloved

>>102740581
Honestly, only her full bodies ended up wonky as fuck, out of the portraits only vei ends up looking like a fucking alien.

What sucks is with these crazy rrats is Mel is gonna have to soft doxx to disprove if they are wrong
Again fuck her if she’s aware of everything but until a girl or manager casts a stone at her I’ll remain neutral towards her

permission to motorboat zentreya?

https://x.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1948974892403060951
It's over for Henya

>>102740339
We hope there will be an Ironmouse Fortnite skin in the future

>>102740546
>Mel won't fuck you.
>common anti lingo...
>not an anti tho...

>>102740621
Melody is innocent and doesn't know anything.
The real guilty party is Melware.

>>102740565
Zens Puppeteers AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
At least add a spoiler anon

>>102740521
find audition tapes of successful chuubas and train an AI on them, boom

>>102740535
We always had plenty of holofags in here, and since the nijis started joining we had a few nijifrens too
Seems like we have a lot of people who hated the thread pushing false rrats in here

>>102740473
i've always liked puppeteer's art and i've never got the hate for it here
you guys are too moe anime brained

>>102740648
imagine the porn

>>102740581
Her own personal designs can be cool even when they ventured off of the official designs. Like this isn't Froot's outfit, but I like the design a lot and it's even the one they used for the Smite collab. The first art she did for Silver was kinda bad though lmao

>>102740669
send us an email bro and you're in

>>102740650
>can't list the accusations
>"HAH you said the anti thing so you're wrong!!"
Well that's one way to admit that you lost the argument.

>>102740687
Most of it it’s fine
It’s just how bad she butchered Zen is the main grievance

I just hope the stuff about Mel is not true, but taking the 1-2 week break is weird if you compare it to Mouse,Zen etc.

>>102740687
I mean most of the VShojo designs are moe anime. Like I think that Puppeteer could probably do a pretty elegant Ama. But if there's any xvsj she'd do a FANTASTIC fucking piece of it's probably Pia actually lol.

>>102740687
Vtubers are literally moe anime girls

>>102740472
I wonder if he changed soon after Mouse started becoming hot shit.

>>102740675
So I take it you like hololive and don't dislike the company or it's business model at all?

>>102740716
>you lose an argument!
>also shit antis say all the time
>not an anti tho...

>>102740726
Well imagine finding out your supposed partner was one of the main culprits behind all of this shit and he hid it from you

>>102740761
Concession accepted.

>>102740742
and that's a shame. there should be more art styles

>>102740726
>compared to
Mel is Mel. This isn't weird for her at all.

>>102740565
Zen is indeed menhera

>>102740767
Thats what i hope because Evil Mel while it would be hot, would break Mouse and the other girls so much more.

>>102740739
Geega might look cool

>>102740783
>still using anti lingo
>not an anti tho...

>>102740648
She was in a survey but that doesn't mean much.

>>102740747
I think he always had that idea. He probably jumped into this thinking he would revolutionize vtubing and make japanese corporate vtubing obsolete.
If not, it must have happened in late 2021 when the girls were on a roll, because he went into Vshojo Next intending for it to be his master plan to kill Hololive.

>>102740020
We fucking reached Wactor levels, let's fucking go gamers. How bad can they be

Lmao so which crypto discord did the japan guy share the slide deck

>>102740759
I'm indifferent towards it
Never really watch any holos except when they collabbed with the girls and I enjoyed those, but lots of anons here seem to like them and know a lot about them

>>102740839
So what's the accusation? Looks like you got nothing. If your next post doesn't contain the accusation you admit that you lost.

>>102740869
x.com

>>102740842
honestly the hype around that moment was pretty real, but they failed to turn it into revenue for the company apparently

>>102740726
Consider this.
If she is Apek's girlfriend/wife/step sister then it's not unlikely that they moved into a place in Japan together.
If she were innocent in all this she'd very likely want to dump/separate from this guy, which means finding her own place out there in Japan. That shit could reasonably be a thing to take up those 1-2 weeks.
If she were guilty and complicit then she's hiding to wait for everything to blow over.

>>102740881
forcing Nazuna to stream on twitch was a terrible idea

>>102740895
Shes hiding out, not her first rodeo

>>102740839
Why are you still replying?

>>102740874
And the rest of the thread?

>>102740739
Puppeteer's style would translate really really well to Decora Mouse too since even when she has a direct reference she still liked to stuff extra accessories onto art. Like I love this Nyan but she never had any of those accessories or yellow nails or those cute pawprints on her eyes.

>>102740895
Anon there is no chance Mel would be able to find a place and move in within 2 weeks in japan. That just isn't feasible there.

>>102740877
>back to "i'm an innocent waif!"
>anti tactic
>not an anti tho...

>>102740881
They failed to actually plan shit.
Nazuna might have been derranged, but she kinda had a point that getting her + Kson and then not doing shit for a year was a retarded idea.
They should have planned a proper JP gen, even if it didn't debut at once, rather than grab two big names and hope that somehow translated into success.

>>102740895
Who finds a place and moves out in 1 or 2 weeks? Especially as a foreigner in Japan?
>Capture: G0YSH
What does it mean?

>>102740913
honestly giving her a new identity at all was a stupid idea, they should've just used mike and let her stream on yt where all her existing fans were

>>102740895
Even if they're as close as being married an implosion like this will usually lead to a breakup.

>>102740932
lol she's trapped in japan with a criminal

cannot wait for the parrot video

>>102740472
Gunrun is like Che Guevara, charming but a jerk

>>102740925
keeps him busy

>>102740881
any time they managed to do something there was no follow up to keep hype going
insane that anyone got paid for marketing or called what they did marketing

>>102740955
I thought she wanted that to escape antis?

>>102740842
>VShojo NEXT
What a fucking retarded idea if they were aiming to "kil" hololive. They hired fucking Nazuna, someone with the biggest JP scandal of that year. Not even that, I'm sure they only saw the greens and saw that she was one of the top earners, WITHOUT FUCKING UNDERSTANDING IT WAS THE UNICORNS THAT THEY DONATED.

How fucking hard would have been to hire Kson, do something like with NOVA or some audition and, fucking work thought.

>>102740935
And just like that you've admitted that I have never accused Mel of "heinous shit". Thanks for playing, retard.

>>102740982
kek probably, that woman is impossible to understand

>>102740985
I genuinely think they didn't think beyond "bro imagine when everyone hears her voice in the teaser and pogs, it will be like a Marvel trailer bro, we will be so popular"

>>102740999
>pretends to be innocent, again
>anti tactic
>not an anti tho...

>>102740926
Already said in the post you're replying to. Lots of anons seemed to like them. It was not rare to have random holo discussion pop out from time to time in here, rarely in a negative way. People were always happy when our girls did a Collab with them

>>102741026
I mean it worked didn't it lmao

>>102740999
Stop replying to him. We have some special ed kids with too much free time on their hands. Their posting style is always the same you should be able to spot them easily.

>>102741035
You just admitted that I am innocent. You had your chance to prove that I'm not and you blew it.

>>102740935
That nigga thinks he's in an ace attorney game, just ignore it
If there's something there, the actual protagonists will say something about it eventually

>>102740747
Pretty much, mouse started laying golden eggs and suddenly everything had to be sanitized, no more talking about periods or shitting

>>102741026
>it will be like a Marvel trailer bro
Vshojo and Marvel movies suck now...

>>102741066
>"im so innocent you guys pay no attention to the things i've said and posted just that i say i am innocent now"
>anti tactic
>not an anti tho...

>>102741101
You did just say that I'm innocent.

>>102741065
why are you replying to yourself?

>>102740969
Oh, so this is your new angle.

>>102741099
They did try to have their own MCU lol
Wish the girls would talk more about the mess that was the lore videos, but I guess that would mean shitting on Merry who is innocent.
At least I hope Zen talks about how she got BTFO by a fucking car lmao

Do you think Gunrun was malicious or incompetent?

>>102741116
i went to get some cheese and crackers and came back to see a twenty reply chain to my original post, cool. Congrats I have returned to tell you, you win anon, you are innocent or whatever

>haha if I act like a retard everone will forget that Mel lives with apek
That's not how this works

>>102739768
No, Omega went to make his own org.

>>102741143
its working isn't it? antis are retarded

>>102741169
Apathetic

>>102741169
gun specifically just seemed incompetent to me
>>102741181
no one gives a shit retard

>>102740767
>hid it
lol
lmao

>>102741169
I think he genuinely thought what he was doing would work out in the end if he just had enough time, I do not think he was right though.

>>102740055
Nope
>idolS

>>102741181
it's all just a bunch of coincidences haha lol

Ok, bro, you convinced me that Mel is literally Hitler, you can stop now

>>102741202
You clearly do since you keep posting.

>>102741169
Wildly incompetent

>>102741169
Mostly incompetent imo
But I can buy MTD being malicious, don't really know about that apek guy, but if we take how pink cat and aethel were talking about him one can asume the guy was no good

>>102741198
If he was apathetic, I think he would've declared bankruptcy earlier

>>102741169
He just feels like one of the adults from Umineko KEK

>>102741169
malicious but incompetent in the sense he really thought he could get away with it

>>102741239
That would require him to cause trouble for himself, easier to try to cover it up and hope things sort themselves

Evil Woman

>>102741164
Zen really went nut because of this scene

>>102741169
A bit of both, he understood what talents wanted but he used it for his own gain, but he's too retarded to understand the business behind it, so he just wasted money at a stupid rate.

>>102741227
Nobody said that. How much longer are you going to keep pretending?

>>102741213
I guess my only question is how does this person know they're the NOVA girls IRLs if there are no names.

>>102741264
That sounds like incompetence more than apathy

>>102740020
wtf Peke was a dog all along?!

I always knew Mel was faking the orgasms

>>102741295
Peke was the COO

>>102741290
I wonder how...

If Mel is innocent
>I love adorable sexy dorks
If Mel is complicit
>I love evil women
Simple as.

lol

>>102741237
Of course it is. They have always hated Mel.

>>102741164
I remember them being really into the lore shit at first, SNIVS had a whole primal goddess thing they were explaining in vr chat together that one time

>>102741305
Every camgirl embellished them over the top, even if they are having one

>>102741293
I see incompetence as meaning well but being too retarded to do things properly
If you do something wrong because it's easier, you are an apathetic cunt

>>102741348
Do not feed her ego!

>>102741348
It's going to end up just like OTK

>>102741348
RUN IT BACK

>>102741169
started out incompetent, turned malicious to cover it up/save it

>>102741362
I think having to record so much shit + lore videos like Silver's and Froot's being delayed + Merry being a hack kinda killed their interest

>>102741348
Predict who will be the first to be outed for sexual harrasment

>>102741415
Peke.

>>102741348
Would be like Gunrun but instead of talking too little she would talk way too much. Lose all the company money on an rp server investment.

>>102741348
Fuck you Geega, should have said "agency" so I could make fed jokes

>>102741243
lmao this is pretty accurate, if only he had a mega rich dad into the occult

>>102741348
I hope she does
Let's see how it goes
If she's successful we get a cool chuuba group. If she fails I get to make fun of her
I win in every scenario

>>102741348
Naw, this is a great idea. I remember some anon last night saying Geega made him think of Donald Trump and I wanna see if Geega can Make Vtubing Great Again.

>>102741348
Please do. I want to see her fail miserably.

>>102741348
Geega is already missing all these crazy corpa parties

>>102741348
>forced RP server

>>102741415
Without the oppressive shackles of working for a company Henya will find herself incapable of not saying the gamer word

>>102741348
who is funding Geega's company?

>>102741169
Yes

>>102741470
Peter Thiel

>>102741348
Unironically hope she does. If it goes well, based as fuck here we go Vshojo 2.

>>102741470
kick

>>102741470
the cia

>>102741368
If you're apathetic but not incompetent, you're going to declare bankruptcy. Why the fuck wouldn't you?
If you're not apathetic but incompetent, you might very well just not touch anything and hope the problem fixes itself. What are you going to do, try and fix it?

Since these are not contradictory terms, you can be both apathetic and incompetent, I have to say that what you described sounds more incompetent than apathetic.

>>102741470
The Pentagon

>>102741470
Fansly sponsorship

>>102741348
>Gets scammed twice by two companies
Maybe you should stay out of this scene Geega

>>102741470
I'm sure she'll find some good investors, she has a good eye for this things

>>102741415
Obviously Kson

>>102741348
she could totally secure capital, she smooth talks with the best of them

>>102741545
You mean seduce?

>>102741538
Yeah but now she's learned all the tricks. It's her turn to scam.

>>102741538
no she should definitely immerse herself
either she's successful or something funny happens, win win

>>102741506
You are right, but without extra context "incompetent" makes it sound too innocent, like he was clueless about it, when I think he did what he did knowing it wasn't the right thing to do.

>>102741538
can't get scam if you are the one scamming.

bros, what's the name for GEEGAcorp?

>>102741348
Name it GirlsFC

>>102741599
geegshojo

>>102741599
AnyCover

>>102741348
The only Xshojo I would like to see run some management company or agency is Kson. The contract is simple, if you take money Kson gets to beat the fuck out of you.

>>102741169
extreme incompetence combined with him huffing insane copium thinking he could just keep making more money or getting loans to cover any back pay, I've seen it before

>>102741538
did MSM scam her?

>>102741599
The Geeglers

>>102741599
She hates putting the "V" in anything vtuber company/business related. So it won't have V.

>>102741189
oh dear

>>102741599
Hologeeg
Geegeesanji

>>102741415
Geega herself when she trys to pull a wactor but with little boys

>>102741169
stealing from charity is Malicious

>>102741599
The X Company

>>102741599
GShojo

>>102741584
Does it? I think you just don't judge incompetence enough. You can fuck shit up by being incompetent. If you really go into certain philosophers, they end up thinking that incompetence is evil like any other evil.

>>102741348
DON'T PRETEND YOU DIDN'T CALL VSHOJO STAFF PDF FILES. STREAM ABOUT IT

>>102741634
actually no, I think all the big talents were done right by Seth, that was intentional to put a good face on the company to draw in low to mid 3views he could rip off with impunity

>>102741683
He probably thought he would cover it eventually
Gamblers mindset

HENYA IS GOING TO OPEN SUBNAUTICA AGAIN, EVERYONE BRACE FOR IMPACT

>>102741724
They may have threaded that needle if the debut Mint earlier

>>102741634
did geega ever actually say she left msm/seth?

>>102741410
I really want to finally find out the absolute shit show the lore vids were behind the scenes and how the idea even actually came about to do them.

>>102741348
Describe Geega's company with a thumbnail

>>102741724
>Ok girls we can fix everything if you play slots for 30 minutes every stream

>>102741724
using charity money to attempt to fix a failing business is malicious

>>102741769
oh god lol
sheena fucking cap your oil well

>>102741769
let the scamming begin

>>102741764
no but the msm website removed everyone and buff ripped Seth a new asshole on discord for failing to pay artists on her projects so I'm sure she left, only idiots like grimmi would go back to him

>>102741807
I'm not disagreeing with that

>>102741724
that is malicious even if it's also incompetent

Do you guys buy the 'Mel was in on it' rrat?

None of you guys watch Geega I assume, because she's literally mentioned one idea for a business that wasn't an agency in the last month or two.

>>102741867
nah at worst she was kept in the dark while her bf scammed all her friends

>>102741830
buff in vshojo would have been something

The V in Vshojo stands for Villainy, Vandalism, Venom, Vice, Violation, Vulture and Vei

>>102741867
this is the most pathetic attempt I've seen you make to keep rehashing this yet

>>102741867
I buy the one where she's perpetually too stoned off her ass to understand a single thing going on in the world.

>>102741867
Don't really think I have the available info to make an educated guess yet

>>102737887
Raora panthera?!

>>102741837
>malicious
that would imply intent, which assuming Gambler's Fallacy, he thought he was still going to give to charity just later then when agreeded to, still evil, but not malicious

>>102741099
Marvel always sucked, you were just 10 years old and iron man looked cool

>>102741837
It's not. It's dumb and criminal but you can't prove it's malicious.

>>102741867
nah she just fucked off to japan with the COO for completely innocent reasons lol

>>102741867
I think that Mel either enabled it all by being retarded, or she's an enabler that's pretending to be retarded.
I find it more likely that Mel is retarded rather than just pretending to be.

>>102741881
It's funnier to pretend that she's making a vtuber org

>>102741893
apparently buff has been seething at vshojo for years now and begging mouse to leave lol

>>102741867
Leaning towards no, but she's also the only one who isn't completely exonerated

I love Mouse but I always had these worries in the back of my head.
>Why wasn't she more transparent about the donations like a screenshot
>Why does she keep losing long term close friends
>Why isn't she excited about the new members.
I'm so glad these were all because vhsojo was shitty, I never wanted to think anything bad about Mouse so I always kept them to the back f my mind.

>>102741769
Hey ksheena how's the archive doing? Did you add nagi?

>>102741958
I can't wait to know who was trying to keep her out of servers kek.

>>102742016
The furry

it's really that easy to get you to keep timelooping isn't it
why are you people so retarded

>>102742035
>why are you people so retarded
where do you think you are?

>>102741867
Yeah i know people who work in the same company and are a couple. They talk about everything at home even when i'm there.

>>102741927
>>102741934
I refuse to believe anyone is so retarded that they think it's all clean sailing, unless it's an actual monkey with Alzheimer's making the decisions. It's incompetence paired with malice, the only disagreement should be what mix of both it is.

>>102742033
>angryblight.jpeg

>>102741894
The V in VShojo stands for vore

>>102741991
Thanks to Shondo we know that Vshojo also encouraged her to become a clout chaser for big male fleshstreamers.

>>102742103
>I refuse to believe anyone is so retarded
Did you not read the slide deck? He's delusional and trapped in his own little fantasy

>how can i get worse than this
Henya you fuck

>>102742141
Did she meet Connor before or after she joined Vshojo?

>>102742035
Brother, where do you think you are right now? This is the shitpostingdrama general, have you been here this last few days?
We're in a thread for a recently imploded company, it still remains to be seen if the thread will even survive once the drama fizzles out. But for now this is 24/7 shitposting

>>102741929
Even if I went back to being 10 years old, I’d still think Ironheart is ugly as hell.

>>102741991
It should have been painfully obvious something was deeply wrong when Nyan and Mouse went from being inseparable to almost never interacting with each other immediately after Nyan left. Either between Nyan/Mouse or VShojo.
Thankfully it was because of VShojo and not some personal beef.

>>102742195
Both? They technically met before but didn't start actively collabing together until after.

>>102742189
HENYA NOOOOO

>>102742241
I just thought they had an argument over Nyan leaving and it pushed them away from each other.

>>102742257
So its possible that Vshojo pressured her to get all chummy with him.

>>102741867
>mel lived with apek, he was skimming off the top and looking out for #1, apek was paid before any vtuber got paid and mel benefitted
90%
>mel was also getting paid on time because her castle was apeks castle, while every other talent was left in the dust
70%
>apek also rerouted the charity money, mel has swiped her card for a purchase and paid with money that was intended to go for charity
50%
>mel knew of this. Apek came home from work with the money and openly told mel that all of her coworkers were suffering, but heres an extra 100k he pulled by rerouting charity money into expenses, and mel laughed and kissed him on the cheek and called him a lovely man
10%

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>>102742291
>>102742291
>>102742291

>>102742241
Remember when retards in this thread insisted nothing bad happened and they just "drifted apart" naturally? Lol

>>102742241
I'll believe that it was purely Vshojo whenever we see them doing collabs again.

>>102742333
The rrat I remember people spreading most was that it was never real and only a stream thing to draw viewers in

The fact they told somebody on heavy meds lies about others not caring for her or how artists did not like her is some real evil shit to control that person.

>>102741867
I don't know what to think. The evidence suggests mel was with Apek but did she really know everything that was going on? I really wish mel would release a statement at some point instead of going radio silent

>>102742241
I hope they hang out more now that this is all over

>>102742418
I hope so as well. It will probably depend on how much their relationship can be recovered.

>>102741867
To some degree, yeah. I could easily imagine that her husband was using her to guilt trip other vshojo members into staying or to ignore the problems within the org.

>>102742360
That was the dumbest shit ever. No one could have looked at their relationship and concluded that it was fake.

>>102736091
Nice try to falseflag, but no, fuck off.

>>102742389
>I really wish mel would release a statement at some point instead of going radio silent
you're not entitled to any kind of statement until the girls themselves make an issue
a bunch of grudge holding antis on twitter are the last people you should be appealing to

>>102742497
That was my take on it too but it was repeated a lot. lol if there's anything I'd be willing to rrat about as something MTD spread here it would be that. Because it felt like a lot of people bought into it over time

>>102741628
Of all the old talent the only ones that I 100% think shouldn't are Kson, Henya, and Michi. Henya's too simple minded, Kson's too idealistic (literally bought into the initial promise of the company without questioning how financially viable it is) and Michi's all about the vibes, so running a company which needs to prioritize profits over feelings would just ruin her.

>>102736091
you ain't no "swarmchad", I know who you are

>>102736091
Hi silverschizo

>>102738072
>because she deserved it
except she did not deserve it

>>102740690
and it was bad because it was for Silver
you aint slick, faggot, kill yourself

>>102742418
Mouse was in Aethels chat for a good while when he was ranting the other day. During Nyan's last stream, she said she couldn't believe some of the stuff Mouse was telling her (in regards to the Vshojo collapse). So yeah, they're definitely communicating again.

>>102743161
Nyan also said she was talking with Mouse again in her stream today

>>102743161
>>102743180
Nyan was also watching Mouse's last stream.