Thread 103248724

vtubers are entertainer, they're not your girlfriend.
if you think that way you'll never feel cukced whenever you send them free money every night.

Why would I give money to a woman if she's not my girlfriend?

>>103248740
because you're not incel

>>103248724 (OP)
Is it wrongthink to stop supporting a woman who is already being supported and getting dicked down fully creampied by another man?

>>103248758
Correct I'm not an incel, despite the fact that you lot love to throw that around a lot anyway. So again, why would I give money to a woman if she's not my girlfriend? Hell let's lower the bar even further, why would I give money to a woman if she won't even PRETEND to be interested in me?

>>103248740
That money belongs to 4/10 women on the Internet who wouldn't give you the time of day irl.

>>103248826
>why should I pay at this restaurant? it's not like the waitress is going to fuck me

>>103248820
Yes

>>103248873
Nice strawman, now actually address my argument

Damn I really didn't rape you guys hard enough

>>103248724 (OP)
I prefer my vtubers to be idol-ish.
Sorry, no boyfriends.
Husband is ok, I guess

>>103248724 (OP)
>whenever you send them free money every night
thats where you lost me, no money for cuckers

>>103248889
Because she's not your girlfriend. She's doing her job and providing a service. In this case, entertainment.
I feel sorry for your mother to have raised such a brainrotted individual.

>>103248740
Because she creates interesting content for you? It's absolutely cucked to give women pretending to be your girlfriend money.

If you want to participate in this hobby you have to have the same mindset as me, agree with my views on the entire hobby landscape and you cannot under any circumstance appreciate the hobby in a way I find distasteful
I'm glad we cleared that up

Vtubers are providing a service using a tip-based payment model. The "main" audience for vtubers are lonely nerdy single men. In order to grow an audience and get them to pay you for your services, you have to provide a service that they want. This is all extremely simple, basic economics. But keep girl bossing all your way to mcdonalds instead because you're too "good" to pander to lonely incels, SLAY QUEEN

It's wrong for entertainers to announce their marriage privately and expect fans to congratulate them. Fans are not slaves.

>>103249039
>>103249055
>My mindset is the ONLY mindset. And if any girl doesn't adhere to it (whether or not I watch her), she is a whore and I will harass her and her fans for the next 20 years.

I think some retards around here need to take a step back and realize that they should go back to anime instead of throwing a bunch of money and time away on random women on the internet theybwould have never watched had they been flesh streamers.

>>103248740
>I will give a stranger money to pretend to be only for me, and the audience of hundreds or thousands others watching along with me
peak cuck

>>103249101
It's fine, AI is only a couple years away from being able to provide a quality personalized anime waifu experience, then I can happily never interact with a real life female ever again

Vtubers play anime girls, my anime girls are single, period. Maybe there is audience for anime girls with boyfriends, I do not judge them, I'm simply not into this.

>>103249164
Ai trained by other men, you cuck.

>>103249172
100% this. The inability to separate the actress from the character in recent years is rather disturbing. On BOTH sides

>>103248724 (OP)
There is no "correct" vtubing mindset when vtubers are a degenerate hobby, worse than video games, and even porn. It is a type of entertainment that is meant to cater to losers with boring lives and encourages those losers to stay that way. It is a hobby that keeps losers where they are by wasting several hours of their lives every week watching streams, and wasting their money on overpriced crap. The industry was born out of the idol industry where the goal is to have people IDOLise others, which is foolish. If you are going to worship something, worship god, not false idols. These people are entertainers, yet people have this deluded devotion and idolization to them. It would've have been good to leave all this celebrity culture garbage of television in the past, but this level makes those times look like nothing in comparisson.

Stop wasting your time with this garbage and get your fucking shit together.

>>103248724 (OP)
Nah, announcing this doesn't change reality. If you truly don't want to be a cuck and only see her as entertainment, you give her no money, it's that easy. You can say you're "supporting" her, but you've just paid for birth control to prevent the countless creampies from working as intended over the past couple of years, that's not an opinion, that's reality. You're paying for her wedding, for her honeymoon, all that. If you didn't know she had a BF this whole time, and you've been giving her money, you're accidentally a cuck, sorry. I've never spent any money on any vtuber, they're in the same boat as any other streamer to me, like Mr. Beast or Kai Cenat, just something to watch when I need some entertainment. Stop coping with all this BS with trying to justify giving her money too, her entertainment is free by default.

>>103248740
Fpbp

>>103248724 (OP)
So just streamers. Which defeats the whole purpose of vtubers who are meant to be something more. If just entertainment then just be a flesh streamer and stop wasting my time. Don't be a pretty anime girl if you don't want people to have crushes on you.

>>103249231
Streamers and idols are not anime girls. No matter how much they try to seperate themselves from their character, there is still some stuff that will seep in. Whether it's physical maledies, personal anecdotes, or real life experiences, those things will make their way into the stream no matter who they are.

>>103249181
Anime is mostly made by men, so you still lose.

>>103249410
The anime skin totally makes it different, I swear!

>>103249181
Of course the best replacement for women will be made by men, women don't have the slightest clue what men want

>>103249558
So by your logic the actress that plays Nimi must actually be a Tapir. No you retard, they're CHARACTERS

>>103248740
You're paying her for a service. If you get a massage from a woman, do you refuse to pay her because she's married?

>>103248724 (OP)
This but unironically

>>103248740
For goods and services rendered, or to encourage further art or entertainment output.

>>103248820
No, but it is retardthink to think all those weird cuck fetish words about a woman having a husband.

>>103249366
>they're in the same boat as any other streamer to me
That boat sinks if nobody gives them any money. By all means be a leech, I'm one too, but the "birth control money" narrative is just cuck fantasy shit.

>>103248724 (OP)
>whores are not your girfriend
Yes, of course. But you ain't paying for a whore that brings her husband along for the service.
Fucking cucks, seriously can't even tell the difference.

>>103249620
A. Vtubers provide a free service with the option to tip
B. If the Vtuber is not providing the service I want, then no I absolutely will not tip her
Any other retarded comments you want to make?

>>103249618
THE ANIME SKIN MAKES IT DIFFERENT!
THEY AREN'T NORMAL STREAMERS WHO SHILL TRASH TO MAKE MONEY!
THEY DON'T BEG THEIR FANS TO DONATE!

But what if I have a crush on them

>>103249172
> my anime girls are single
who?
yeah hookups with randoms behind the scenes don't count

>>103248740
She can be your mother.

>>103248724 (OP)
vtubers are hostesses
vtubing is a giant hostess club
hostesses are not your girlfriend but you're paying for the time and attention of a woman you like
there is some expectation that maybe if you hit it off there's the POTENTIAL of dating
Married women or women in relationships really shouldnt be working as hostesses and their boyfriends or husbands are extremely pathetic to have them continue to do so.

It was really funny watching them play Bunny Garden and feel awkward as they realized

Imagining a version of this bullshit happening in medieval times where rich nobles took to providing patronage to female artists and entertainers in their courts and didn't have sex with them but absolutely lost their fucking minds if they ever found a husband

>>103249632
How is it a "fantasy" when it's literal reality? If you've ever given her a dime, you paid for that shit, that's a fact. Money went from your wallet into hers and then it went from her wallet to pay for the birth control.

Lets get specific, I'd understand buying merch or paying for YT premium supports her without making you a cuck, you're giving money in exchange for physical merch or to not see ads, but donations or superchats are 100% cuck. At a minimum it's both when you donate or superchat, you're keeping the boat afloat AND you're a cuck.

>>103249632
>all those weird cuck fetish words about a woman having a husband.
But am I wrong?

>>103249757
>vtubing is a giant hostess club
I read this as "vtubing is a giantess club"

>>103249684
More correct:

A. Vtubers provide a free service with the option to be cucked.

>>103249558
The sheer unapologetic confidence with which people will admit to their experience being completely transformed if someone jangles some keys in front of the videogame footage

>>103249870
You are not in a romantic relationship with her, you are not getting cucked. Is it stupid to give a woman money when she already has a man to support her? Absolutely, but stop it with this cuck shit. She is not your girlfriend or your wife, she cannot cuck you

>>103248740
>>103248758
It's funny because her entire lively hood depends on simps paying for memberships and membership gifts.

>>103249923
>>103249870
Birth control doesn't cost a lot of money. It's not literally false, but if you're obsessing over 0.01% of her income going to birth control rather than all sorts of other bullshit people waste their money on you are a cuck fetishist.

>>103249934
I would also support giantess clubs

>>103249966
Meanwhile, spends countless hours watching sexy cute anime nurse women you'd fuck in a heart beat if presented the opportunity, cope

>>103249989
This still doesn't answer my question.
Am I wrong?

>>103249989
Admitting they're 0.01% a cuck, we're making progress

Lets add up everything you've paid for other than the birth control then shall we, what percentage are you a cuck now?

>>103250026
You might want to look up the definition of cuckold retard. There is a vast difference between being attracted to a woman, and being in an actual committed physical relationship with her. And no I do not watch Nimi, I prefer vtubers that respect their character and don't bring their real life baggage into it, I'm just not retarded enough to actually think I'm in a committed relationship with them

>>103250026
>you'd fuck in a heart beat if presented the opportunity
I'd fuck a sufficiently lubricated hole in a tree. Every heterosexual man is affected by an entertainer hijacking their brain's sex circuits but only le heckin based misogynists with no theory of mind think that means sex is the only reason a man would ever be interested in something a woman does

>>103250108
I haven't paid for shit, but if I was willing to give someone money for nothing then I was willing to set that money on fire. It doesn't make me a cuck if she spends it on her husband any more than it makes me a Nazi if she spends it on a gun to go shoot up some Jews with.

>>103248724 (OP)
But girls arent entertaining anon, GFE is the only thing female streamers are good for
>>103248874
who

>>103250139
So you give money to a women that you're physically attracted to, but you're not able to be in a committed relationship with them, and you think you're not a cuck?

There are different types of cuckolding buddy, unsure what textbook definition you're following, but you're 100% a cuck if the above is true.

>>103249757
>Potential of dating
And that's where most people here fuck up. You will NEVER get even the slimmest chance to date your fake vtuber girlfriend.

>>103250205
>but if I was willing to give someone money for nothing then I was willing to set that money on fire.

This is just a cuck too afraid to admit what they are. Don't lie to yourself, you busted out the credit card for absolutely "nothing"

>>103250205
But that ruins all of these brainless retards copes who willingly throw away hundreds to thousands just to get a little attention from their favorite.

>>103250376
Do you think all the talk of groomcords is just a joke or something

>>103248724 (OP)
>vtubers are entertainer
it's not entertaining to watch a cute girl being cute while they talk about their man.
i rather just not know, i don't want to hear it, i don't want to think about it, just fake it, pretend there's no men in your life, pretend you're innocent and pure, pretend you're a cute silly girl who treats me like a friend, talk about nonsensical and whimsical stuff while playing video games badly.
i know i'm a loser single virgin but i don't even care about finding a partner, just keep being cute without allowing my mind to wander off into the deep chasms of my miserable insecurity, just make dumb jokes and laugh at yourself with your cute little giggles, that's what's entertaining to me.

cute girls are nice. cute girls are a treasure.

>>103250376
I already am, you're just cucking yourself to begin with because you're a coward

>>103249620
>You're paying her for a servic
Exactly. And that service is "I keep my RL shit and my opinions on politics or current society issues talk out of my vtubing and I focus solely on my fans who are the only thing I'm here for when I'm online".

It's a mutually beneficial transaction. They focus on their fans only and give them a chance to just have some stress free fun for a few hours and provide some escapism, fans give their support, cheer them on, give them money and buy their merch and go to their concerts.

No one is owed my support. If they no longer want to adhere to this unwritten contract then I can just move elsewhere to vtubers who still want to do that .

>>103248724 (OP)
Vtubers are entertainers correct.
That's why whenever they end up mixing their private life with their entertainment job like announcing marriage, I drop them.
I want to be entertained, not listen about someone else love life.

>>103250668
Funny you post Fuwawa when they've spent the last 6 months crying about how tired they are when they show up to stream, had a majority of their streams switch to shilling or SC baiting, and can't stop complaining about real world issues inside the company. Woops.

>>103248724 (OP)
So heckin, op. What are your pronouns?

>>103248873
Imagine you went to a famous sushi restauranti. As the waitress takes your order she keeps interrupting you to talk about her boyfriend. Then when she brings the food out, it's not what you ordered, in fact it's not even sushi. Then when you try to tell her that it's not what you ordered, she acts rude and aggressive towards you and tells you she's too special to be serving sushi and you should just accept what you're given. Do you still tip her?

>>103250765
>Funny you post Fuwawa when they've spent the last 6 months crying about how tired they are when they show up to stream
It's normal for them to be tired, they've been working like dogs (get it?). They're showing up in a ton of events and 3D lives and Advent is releasing FIVE new orisongs too.
I love their mix of streams and idol content, they really live the idol dream
>had a majority of their streams switch to shilling or SC baiting
Yes, idols advertise things, that's part of it. Thanking fans for their support is nice too, even if I personally could do with less of them being read, but they still get so many despite limited it to pink and up
>and can't stop complaining about real world issues inside the company
This is just made up by you, they do nothing except the usual "we worked so hard today we're exhausted"

>>103250262
GFE and-or fap material.

>>103250868
Yep, they totally didn't spend the first 30 minutes yesterday complaining indirectly about Cover fucking up their release of LTST. Kill yourself, you hypocritical fag

>>103248724 (OP)
It's never free. If they're entertaining and I have money to spare thrn I'll drop some in their hat.

>>103249055
This is the ideal scenario for most of these whores
>Start off as either a /pol/ shitter or a GFE shitter
>Grow big enough to start getting decent sponsorships
>Slowly ditch your shizo fanbase because they are now not the main source of your vtubing income
No one wants to rely on 2-3 "big" paypigs and a bunch of micro dono shitters.

>>103250385
>This is just a cuck too afraid to admit what they are. Don't lie to yourself, you busted out the credit card for absolutely "nothing"
Cuckoldry requires being in an actual relationship with the person who's fucking other people. You imbecile.

>>103252129
You are on 4chan. Words lost all meaning on this site. If you visit enough boards, you will see that most threads are just buzzword posting idiots hurling buzzwords at each other completely out of context.

>>103248724 (OP)
Yassssss queeeeen you tell em yaaaa.
Hivemind is where it's atttttt.

>>103250262
>But girls arent entertaining anon, GFE is the only thing female streamers are good for

Japanese girls can be, but that's because female humor is also tied to cuteness and being naive and clueless, which is a huge no no for western females.

>>103253367
moe can be entertaining but that just goes back to GFE, everything female streaming is porn or GFE

>>103250668
So you pay to get lied to, you do you but it sure sucks to suck

>>103253367
>Japanese girls can be, but that's because female humor is also tied to cuteness and being naive and clueless, which is a huge no no for western females.
It's only a no no if you do it as poorly as someone like Aaron Sorkin. Plenty of female characters have been depicted as ditzy or flat-out stupid. It's when you write their stupidity as intrinsic to their womanhood that it becomes bad and lame.
I've lost count of the number of English speaking vtubers who make their clutzyness part of their schtick without anyone other that the obnoxious liberal Twitter set making hay about it.

>>103253667
>So you pay to get lied to,
That's literally every movie, tv show, book, etc. All of it are lies. At the very least they can be entertaining and not break the illusion.

Imagine watching an action movie and in the middle the movie stops, the crew comes on camera and reminds you that all the stuns are fake, all the explosions are CGI, and all the actors use doubles. Then the movie resumes.

This is the equivalent of what IRL talking does.

>>103250262
So to roughly translate: I'm unable to find a real girlfriend because women are foul creatures therefore I take solace in pretending these digital women who don't care for me at all are like a girlfriend that I share with thousands of other men.
Is this what you're saying? What a uniquely pathetic mindset.

>>103253778
this nigga just deconstructed the entirety of romance media and escapism, hats off

>>103253817
I don't quite think that's right

>>103248740
twitter sisters didn't like this post

>>103248740
>why would you ever throw money at a stripper?
>my oshi needs this money, please take it and make a cute face at me

Vtuber fans are no different than boomers, only difference is a 180 on purity ideology.

>>103249055
this would make sense but it feels like a ton of people get mad at vtubers for male collabs even if they're still GFE otherwise
it's not really a service at that point but more of a purity test

>>103253772
There are no hard set rules on how a vtuber is to behave, no precedent that they all need to adhere to some rule.
They are not like movies or TV shows, they are like street entertainers, you pay them as they go and keep paying if you like it. If they start doing something you don't like you stop paying, the person paying does not set any rules for them no matter how much they pay. If you think you paying them grants you some sort of control or rule making for them then you need to GSH, do you give that street performer 10 bucks and then take it back when they don't play the song that you demand?

>>103253772
yes, if they bring up unrelated stuff on stream often that sucks
but would you REALLY have someone go silent for months because they're raising their kid instead of just saying "i'm married"?

>>103253772
Stories aren’t lies, you mentally ill faggot. Stories, whether through written, oral, or visual telling, are the crux of a sentient civilization that has evolved beyond lizard brain instincts. It is how you share and interpret histories, ideologies, moral dilemmas, and the fundamental human experience.

You are so absolutely cooked you should honestly think about ending it all. Get in touch with reality sometime

>>103253778
I kind of want to defend the BFE/GFE enjoyers here and claim that it's *maybe* possible to enjoy that content without being misogynistic or insane about it. If they're capable of not posting dozens of threads a day about how the streamer is a whore for daring to having a life outside of their streams, and the streamer is capable of doing it without psychological damage, then more power to all of them I guess.
Obviously, most watchers are *not* capable of doing that, even for streamers who have told them on more than one occasion that they aren't interested in making that content for them.

>>103254494
I can't believe Thanos really snapped half of humankind, so sad...

There is a difference between fiction and stories, lil nigga.

>>103254516
you don't even need to have the vtuber be GFE, just find someone with a good model and voice and write fanfics of yourself fucking them LOL

>>103254426
>There are no hard set rules on how a vtuber is to behave, no precedent that they all need to adhere to some rule.

Only like 8 years of vtubing, but whatever excuse you want to act like a harlot.

>>103254461
>but would you REALLY have someone go silent for months because they're raising their kid instead of just saying "i'm married"?

Youtubers do that. In fact most artists do that. Maybe they would be more mentally healthy if they did that.

>>103254611
Lies are inherently deceitful, whereas fiction in its nature is truth, truth in that it has never claimed to be reality, and through these unrealistic scenarios you are still able to share very real emotions, lessons, morals, and artistic expression. So reiterating the point that something not be real, doesn’t mean it’s a lie. A woman demonstrating kindness, compassion, or interest in videogames isn’t a lie just because it isn't happening to you personally right now

>>103254696
well then this is where we disagree

>>103254763
I don't even know what you're trying to argue man. This has nothing to do with this conversation.

If a girl has a boyfriend, and then on stream says that she is single and ready to mingle. Is that "fiction born from truth" or a lie?

>>103254667
and you were comparing that to tv and movies which has been around for ten times as long. Let the industry cook, vtubing to an audience of thousands of people with the option to voluntarily toss money at you is new shit, don't act like you know the rules and what will work and get mad if they do something different.

>>103255139
You seem a bit lost in your thoughts honey, so let me guide you back to the start of this conversation, ok baby?

Anon 1 claimed that vtubers deliberately hiding stuff is part of the service he wants. Call it storytelling, fiction, lies, lying by omission, scamming, play pretend, whatever you want. That's what he wants to buy.

Anon 2 claims he just wants to pay to be lied to.

But what Anon 1 wants is what happens with movies, videogames, anime and most kind of media. Those things do not break the 4th wall to directly destroy the imaginary reality they are creating. It's bad form. It's antiart. So Anon 1 doesn't want to support that. It's as simple as that.
It can be done as a joke in comedy maybe, but still that something that people don't have to support if they don't want to.

The story of the boy who cried wolf has truth to it, but the story doesn't stop to remind you this boy isn't even real. That kills the storytelling. Plenty of people don't want this. This shouldn't be controversial to you baby.

>>103248874
>I am going to take your money and you're going to expect nothing in return
Good luck with that. These women need to realise that if the internet equivalent of a hobo offers you money he isn't doing it out of pure altruism, if a random man offers you money you refuse or you deal with the creepy expectations that come with it.

>>103255208
anon 1 thinks he can set the rules by paying
mad and bitches on the internet that his rules is not being followed
anon 1 should stick to movies and tv then

>>103251159
And? How is this related to them still loving their time in hololive and their work as vtubing idols?

What does this have to do with Nimi?

>>103248820
i guess this anon can never watch a movie since any girl in that is getting dicked down probley and seeing a movie would be supporting the girl

>>103254421
>it's not really a service at that point but more of a purity test
That's literally what it is. The reasoning is that idols should not be seen talking to men at all. Personally I don't care as long as they're single

>>103249014
>She's doing her job and providing a service. In this case, entertainment.
*EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* The service they provide is companionship. Due to the nature of this service, some people get romantically attached to the vtuber and would prefer them to be single

>>103248724 (OP)
good vtubers are entertainers, mediocre/bad vtubers like picrel are girlfriend simulators

>>103254426
>do you give that street performer 10 bucks and then take it back when they don't play the song that you demand?
youtube may or may not have a 1 year chargeback time for superchats. take that as you will
>>103255829
and that shouldn't be the default, vtubers shouldn't have to post "DO NOT GET ATTACHED TO ME I AM TRYING TO GET MARRIED IRL" or soundproof their streaming room so five seconds of their husband and kid being overheard doesn't cause a sharp drop in revenue
you give money to vtubers because they made you laugh, not because you're hoping they'll be around for another year keeping you company

>>103256165
tell me you never watched a single Nimi/Fauna stream without telling me you never watch her stream

>>103256179
you are not entitled to other peoples money, they can give it or not give it for any reason
get that into your whore head

>>103256179
>you give money to vtubers because they made you laugh
You fundamentally misunderstand what the kind of people that whatches vtubers expects from vtubers. What you're describing is a normal streamer
>B-but vtubers are just normal streamers with anime avatars
You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree

>>103256351
but anon I want to watch normal streamers, I just don't want to see a girl make ugly faces when she bitches and whine, it's just so much cuter when an anime girl does it.

>>103256338
i'm a dude
and yes i don't want begging in my gaming streams as well
start being funny and stop being poor
>>103256351
>B-but vtubers are just normal streamers with anime avatars
i do wish we got more vtubers that did lore stuff

>>103256664
>lore stuff
You wanted more of the faggot Omega then

>>103256283
her voice is insufferable and she's a souls spammer, why would I watch her?

>>103248724 (OP)
I will think about my oshi literally however I want and you can’t stop me

>>103248758
getting called an incel just encourages me

>>103256806
uhhh anon I think in terms of annoying voices Nimi has got to be one of the least annoying ones, it's like saying Ina's voice is annoying. If you have a problem with her voice you're in the minority.

I will agree she is a scrub to going magic in Elden Ring, should have done what Cecilia did and at least sprinkle some melee, she has clutch dodging skills, make some good use of it.

>>103256960
anon, I hate the whole soulsborne genre
thankfully my small corpo oshi does, too

>>103248740
they literally get simp and cuck money, it' s how they survive. Same with regular female streamers desu.

>>103256803
i mean shit like an actual animated series, hologra is nice but sometimes it decides to just mash together random jokes, if we could get episodes that were as composed as the following one all the time i'd like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J02SCIzziI0
omega sucks because all he did was have one comic about tempus. all that hype about being the "EN(D)" for what? the premise wasn't terrible but the execution certainly was

>>103248724 (OP)
Just watch Northern Lion then.
Do you look up lewd fanart of your fav male streamers?
Do you go awooga in chat for your gamer bro streamer's bikini reveal stream?
Do you spam uuu Man I Love Gamerbro in chat?
Do your gamerbro streamers sell dakis and booba mouse pads?

Get outta here with that
>Oh I only like Vtubers as entertainers
>even though I thirst post about them in the most unhinged way possible.
>I'm not a loser like you guys even though my hobby is watching a woman pretend to be an anime girl while putting on a fake voice and giving fan service and showing off her jiggle physics
>I'm totally above you because I defend her
>I would totally like my oshi in the same way and watch her the same amount if she were a fat ugly bastard
And for the
>I just use them as background noise
copers, you still chose cutesy and lewd anime girls thirsting over other girls as your background noise out of all the available options out there
>T-they're gamers!
The vast majority are terrible at gaming, some don't even like gaming or actively hate it (ERB, Nerissa)
At most they're decent but never someone you would've ever watched for their skill alone without being a girl

>>103248724 (OP)
They're entertainers playing a character, therefore everything outside of that role should be irrelevant to the ones being entertained. So even if they have a partner, most of them won't be having them on stream, so the fact that they hide it should be fine. As long as they draw a strong line between their content, and IRL shit, it shouldn't really matter what they do when they go offline. It's the unicorns and their insecurity that just forces some vtubers to be transparent about it, because of how obsessive and batshit insane they can get.

Females are not entertainers, they are fuck holes. Nimi, is a fuck hole. She was MY fuck hole because I saw and heard her as Fauna for 5 seconds and claimed her because she was cute. The same day I probably claimed a few other anime girls. They're mine too. Fuck you guys. Go find your own holes.

>>103257847
shut up slut, be single or no support for you

>>103253367
Wemi debunks this

>>103256179
>and that shouldn't be the default, vtubers shouldn't have to post "DO NOT GET ATTACHED TO ME I AM TRYING TO GET MARRIED IRL"
agree
>or soundproof their streaming room so five seconds of their husband and kid being overheard doesn't cause a sharp drop in revenue
disagree
If she wante an audience that's cool with child babble then she needs to cultivate it, and best of luck to her with that, sincerely. I'll be generous and give her a threshold of fifteen seconds before I leave the stream.
Then again, I've only ever been a casual Fauna/Nimi watcher, so maybe the naplings are cool with that. If so good for her and them!

>>103256960
Spamming the roll button isn’t clutch dodging skills.

>>103257957
lol uof ur hand

>>103255208
Anon 1 would get mad if a husband and wife are in the same movie?
Breaking the 4th wall happens every time a VTuber talks about their personal life.
"Can't stream today because of a doctor's appointment."
When it's these people who cause streamers to choose being a VTuber for safety.
People who get angry over this are what gives these women nightmares.

>>103258690
Good

>>103258762
Now Nimi can sleep better at night.
While others hear, "How can you do this to me!" before getting stabbed stabbed stabbed.

Little lore drop!
*Mindbreaks incels*

>>103249249
the only based take so far lol

>>103258949
Nimi knows how to play the game, kept the relationship hidden as Fauna for 4 years, think she didn't know how to conduct herself and nurture an audience for the eventual lore drop? Other girls wish they were in her position right now. A solid loving relationship and from the numbers and CCV still is thriving and making bank.

Little lore drop!
*Mindbreaks incels*

>>103249249
fantastic post

>>103249033
>sititng in front of a computer and playing video games
>interesting content

Maybe if she did something actually funny or cool sure, but women can't be funny.

>>103259510
she only fucks asians btw

>>103249249
How’d you even end up on this board? Lmao

>>103259775
We’re all related to genghis khan

>>103249249
Bible camp got out early today

>>103255754
>That's literally what it is. The reasoning is that idols should not be seen talking to men at all. Personally I don't care as long as they're single
Try not caring at all. You're not in a relationship with them and you never will be. Just enjoy their content and maybe jack off to some fan art of them.

>>103253667
Choosing to not talk about politics and RL shit doesn't make someone a liar.

>>103250668
>>103255208
>>103256338
You're right that you're free to stop watching someone if they stop making content you like, but vtubers are also free to stop making content that appeals to you if they don't want you in their audience anymore

>>103260156
If they want to parade their retarded irl shit in my face, I’ll spurt my irl cum on theirs.

>>103250860
Have you considered not going to the restaurant that's clearly not advertised as a sushi place?

There should be a government agency that supplies all lonely men with their own personal Vtuber gf.

>>103255829
>some people get romantically attached to the vtuber and would prefer them to be single
Then stick to people who advertise that as their service instead of expecting everybody to cater to them by default.
As you said, it's only some people. A minority.

>>103248724 (OP)
>Women are entertaining
Very funny anon

>>103260388
>If they want to parade their retarded irl shit in my face, I’ll spurt my irl cum on theirs.
hmm, seems like a good way to get arrested, anon

>>103260988
They’re begging for it.

>>103248724 (OP)
>whenever you send them free money every night.
skill issue dayo

>ctrl+f
>cuck
>30 results

>>103248758
Trvke

>>103248724 (OP)
If I wanted to watch people over characters, why would I bother with Vtubing?
She carved a glory hole in the 4th wall, made her man stick his his brow dick in it, and tried to convince the cucklings to suck him off.

>>103257683
There is actually a cultural issue with western vtubing because it's dominated by hololive. There is no equivalent of a nijisanji jp male streamer (who I would watch) because there isn't an English speaking male Vtuber who isn't a cringe homosexual degenerate.

The setup of these Vtuber companies is actually similar to old friend simulator game journalist outlets or lets play channels where a group of friends would make podcasts about or play games in rotating pairs. The most prominent example currently is red letter media. I absolutely would prefer to watch funny or incredibly talented nerdy male streamers who do the 3d tracking vtuber bullshit that nijisanji does but it doesn't exist outside Japan.

>>103260720
>As you said, it's only some people. A minority.
They're the target audience of vtubing dumbass. Gachikoi are money printers

>>103262060
She's openly ok with Nimi cucking her fans so she's probably in a relationship too

>>103262551
Hot

>>103248724 (OP)
But doctor I don't send women money because I'm not Pagliacci.

>>103263335
Apparently not, considering how many survive without it.

>>103258136
>G4Y!

>>103263371
If it leads to more banger streams like this one then good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03TcRClTWkU
I hope whoever she's seeing eats her ass like groceries and sucks her toes like lollipops.

>>103263613
What of it?

I don't care what any of you say. If the vtuber is not providing a service that I want, I don't give her money. Simple as. You want my money? Provide a service that I want. Basic economics bitch

>>103248740
I think of it in the same way as street musicians. If I like the performance, I toss a coin in the hat or put a bill in the guitar case as thanks for the fun times. Alternatively, I may want to mention a thing and be sure that I'll be seen over the sea of normal messages. You never need more than pocket change, it's just a simple contribution. I don't see why it should be any more complicated than that.
Honestly my only gripe with superchats is that in the case of Hololive and some others, I have no way to do it without also giving Youtube money. This also cuts me completely out from memberships unless I get gifted, though that hasn't happened for me in years.

>>103257847
>As long as they draw a strong line between their content, and IRL shit, it shouldn't really matter what they do when they go offline
Nah. The only line anons care about is talking about relationships. They can talk about literally anything they do IRL and people won't care at all. It's only a specific type of "IRL shit" that you care about

>>103266168
>If I like the performance, I toss a coin in the hat or put a bill in the guitar case as thanks for the fun times.
too long didn't read, long story short:
don't donate for content that DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST YET
otherwise based post

>>103266168
>I have no way to do it without also giving Youtube money
already bought all your oshi's voicepacks? is merch shipping cost high in your country?

>>103248724 (OP)
I only give women money if I'm buying something from them like that Chinese lady who runs a donut shop, man I wanna fuck that Chinese lady.

>>103268273
I can't send a message that way. I get merch when my budget allows because everything has to be expensive when you live in burgerland, but superchats are a nice, low-commitment option that I wish I had for everyone.
>>103268236
What doesn't exist yet? My donation is for the stream that's happening at the moment I donate. Reactive, not preemptive.

>>103268767
yea i was being a smartass and trying to explain your point better and with less words
but i REALLY like how you put it
>Reactive, not preemptive
i'm stealing that when another little lore drop inevitably happens

>>103248907
Your dick is too small.

>>103248724 (OP)
Do people actually donate to vtubers they don't want to fuck?

>>103274974
Why would you donate it to someone you want to fuck?
They're not gonna fuck you.

>>103263666
Well, she's got that covered.

>>103276284
But... what if they do?

>>103276335
Congrats, then.

>>103276335
If it worked for you, then it worked for many, many, many others then, anon.
I hope you like Sloppy 37ths.

>>103260334
They specifically don't want me? What did I do?

>>103254494
>>103254763
fictions is made up bullshit, lies are made up bullshit.
the main difference is that fiction is used to describe an agreed upon lie between 2 or more parties but its still a lie to anyone whose not in agreement.
an example, anons have agreed to the fiction nimi is getting railed daily, but those who dont agree to it see it as a lie.
>>103276546
you exist.
they obviously mean the royal (you), those like (you) who arent compatible with what they want.

>>103265945
okay but you dont get to bitch about them not providing the service you want either, agreed?

>>103248724 (OP)
if they're entertainers then why are they telling me about their personal life and their love life? you're literally arguing against yourself

>>103277404
theres no rule saying entertainers cant, just that they shouldnt, like you theyre free to do as they please.

>>103277404
You've clearly never watched any stand up comic ever then. Or talk show. Or read a biography. Or watched an interview. Or basically consumed any kind of entertainment that isn't purely fiction
There are thousands of circumstances where an entertainer talks about their personal life/love life

>>103277404
It's entertaining.

>>103277681
what does any of that have to do with vtubing

>>103278535
You do realize vtubing incorporates a lot from other forms of entertainment right? It's not all pure fiction. They even take from some of the forms of entertainment I listed. Kiara literally had/has a talk show. They have done interviews before. The concept of a live stream takes a lot from stand up in the sense of having to entertain a live crowd and coming up with jokes or entertaining ways of telling IRL stories
Also the anon I replied to asked why an entertainer would tell people about their personal life and love life. I simply listed examples as to why

>>103277335
What are you, the thought police? Of course I do

>>103248740
So if a bakery was owned by a woman, and she's married, you'd never buy her bread because of that?

THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD BEHAVE!! MEN SHOULD ACT THIS WAY AROUND WOMAN. NO DO NOT LET YOUR FEELINGS GET HURT IF A GIRL FUCKS UP THE ACT YOU SHOULD FORGIVE HER!! NO YOU DO NOT DESERVE ANYTHING IT WAS ALL FAKE IN THE FIRST PLACE

Make sure to continue supporting her out of 'OBLIGATION' as a FAN. Even when the dynamic has changed it was your fault in the first place. What is wrong with you? You didn't seek enjoyment from delusion did you? How stupid of you

>>103281406
>THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD BEHAVE!! MEN SHOULD ACT THIS WAY AROUND WOMAN. NO DO NOT LET YOUR FEELINGS GET HURT IF A GIRL FUCKS UP THE ACT YOU SHOULD FORGIVE HER!! NO YOU DO NOT DESERVE ANYTHING IT WAS ALL FAKE IN THE FIRST PLACE
it's ok to just quit watching them, anon
>>103281498
>Make sure to continue supporting her out of 'OBLIGATION' as a FAN. Even when the dynamic has changed it was your fault in the first place. What is wrong with you? You didn't seek enjoyment from delusion did you? How stupid of you
you don't have to do this either. just unsubscribe and move on

>>103281096
I'm paying for bread I don't give a fuck about who is selling it, compared to a streamer whos entire reason for supporting them is the person themselves

>>103281862
streamers are entitled to make whatever content they want, viewers are entitled to quit watching, and anons are entitled to make whatever negative or positive post they want. being mean isn't a crime.

>>103281919
The anon that I quoted isn't being mean so much as having a meltdown.

>>103281498
Don't forget to defend her on /vt/ and /uuu/. Deflect everything and be a good napling white knight.

i find it interesting that these threads never mention anything about male vtubers coming out with girlfriends. i wonder why that is?

>>103282023
Digging out the boomer Facebook memes to make your point. We've seen plenty of cracks in the last week, could this be the ping?

>>103282420
the fujos don't usually post here, but when Fulgir first showed up and his history with Sana, there was seething in the nijimen channel

>>103282779
Napcuck reaching hard to defend her queen

>>103282898
why are the dog's tears larger than its eyes
you know, there's probably free Photoshop courses for seniors at your local library. step up your meme game, gramps

Why are the people "supporting" Nimi somehow 1000% more annoying than the people that dropped her? Most of you faggots don't even watch her, you just think this is somehow a win for your culture war bullshit, even though this will turn out the same way it always turns out, exactly the same way it has happened the 1000 times before this

>>103281966
nahh I did it to point out that it isn't the viewer that's at the problem when the girl obviously introduces an element that sours the dance of immersion. Fans don't have to pay attention to her anymore and that's just the way it is since they actively engage in delusional pandering of an audience.

>>103286200
pretty sure the naplings arent making these threads, they may be annoying but theyre not the ones starting shit.

>>103248873
I go to a restaurant for the food, not the waitress. I go to a stream for the girl, not whatever slop she's playing. Stop being a fucking retard.

>>103286620
okay explain going to hooters or maid cafes then?

>>103249125
Not entirely true, I give women money to help lift them from shitty situations. Once they net themselves a boyfriend/husband I assume he'll pick up the slack and move on to help another poor woman in need.

If they abuse my trust by hiding the fact they had a boyfriend all along that makes them the asshole, not me.

>>103286200
Holy yap

>>103286620
Anon, how would you have felt if you hadn't had breakfast yesterday?

>>103286654
bud, how are you suppose to learn when theyve gotten a man for you to move on if they cant tell you theyve got a man.
also if theyre a boyfriend they may not even be at the stage where the relationship is stable, you would end up leaving but their relationship could end just was quickly.
husband i get though, theyre probably stable at that point

>>103249978
anon what did you think streamers lived on before memberships were even a thing?

>>103249014
>He deluded himself into thinking woman badly playing videogames while yapping about the most mundane thing is somehow "entertainment"
You're the same as everyone else. The only difference is you're too brain washed to be honest about the reason why you spend hours watching their streams.

>>103287125
You are a sad little man who will never be happy, constantly blaming others for your own self-inflicted problems.

>>103287198
>more cope
boring

>>103287254
And yet you're still here.
I'm starting to understand your problem with vtubers.
Nobody's forcing you to watch people who don't make you happy.

>>103280643
>Also the anon I replied to asked why an entertainer would tell people about their personal life and love life. I simply listed examples as to why
you didn't say why, you just listed a bunch of other entertainment forms

>>103287306
This isn't her stream, I'm not watching her, I'm discussing on a public imageboard dedicated to vtuber discussion
get a grip

>>103260334
Yep.
That said, it'd be preferrable if a vtuber made it clear what kind of content they'll do from the getgo rather than doing a 180 after some years. But they are allowed to change of course.

>>103249033
this motherfucker thinks most vtubers could cut it based on their own merits

>we are not friends
>I'm getting married teehee, continue giving me money cucklings!

Absolutely based, if you do this (you) are the one asking for it and I have zero sympathy for retards. Watch with adblock, never sub, never spend a cent in any way shape or form on these whores.

Why do you fags post negative things about her marriage on twitter? At least keep it here if you must seethe.