Thread 103769510

>Headliners left
>stuck with shitters
>more possibly leaving the sinking ship
>can't even sellout a concert that used to sellout in seconds
KWAB

>>103769510 (OP)
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>>103769577
you lost

>>103770032
So how are those Niji concert ticket sales doing?

>>103770199
how's the infighting over your flop concert going holofag

>>103769510 (OP)
>>can't even sellout a concert that used to sellout in seconds
Oh nyo <3% the tickets of a sold out show are being resold by scalpers, surely having Gura would've changed this!!!

>>103770532
>less than 3 percent
holy cope lol

>>103770559
You can do math can't you retard?
12000 seats across two days, about 300 tickets being resold across those two days, that's around 2.5%

>>103769510 (OP)
I just realized this is just a reused Nimi/Dooby "unsold" concert. Are they just the same people?

>>103770734
>300
the entire row above the pit is 300 tickets still not bought you missed the other 4 rows retard holofaggot who just spews shit he sees in his cope threads

>>103770917
>Lying
GRIM

>>103770532
85% sold for a 6000 venue concert is good for a vtuber company but it's a decline for Hololive. They sold more tickets 2 years ago and the EN graduations are not only causing them to lose fans but are making the remaining fans to be more cynical.

>>103771089
why are holofaggots so retarded

>>103770199
Didn't NijiEN cancel a concert not long ago?

>>103771117
>but it's a decline for Hololive. They sold more tickets 2 years ago
No? it's 6000 vs 6000 across two, they literally sold more

>>103771221
I think that's outfitschizo, don't bother

>>103771152
>me when I just make shit up to deflect from Holo failing

>>103771615
He's not making shit up Nijisister

ligger brazilian seethe thread #3475893480957
he's also a homobeggar by the way

>>103769510 (OP)

Eeeeew.
Gross.

Go FUCK yourself,"Niji-Sister".

Here's the individual seating chart for both days of AFO.
>Blue: Standard unsold tickets
>Pink: Reseller tickets on Ticketmaster's website
When you combine that with all of the Discord reseller tickets (which will appear in this chart as grey(sold)), there's going to be a bunch of unoccupied seats at both days of AFO

this thread is
a waste of time

The Holoanti SEAthe is so potent on the eve of the concert already, can't wait for the absolute meltdowns that'll happen over the next two days.

You LOST.
Hololive WON.

>>103769510 (OP)
holocucks we fucking lost

>>103771865
>The Holoanti SEAthe
70% of holo fans are seachimps

>>103772288
Proof, pablo?

>>103771117
>From 6000 sold to 11k sold
Damn we should graduate even more talents

>>103771754
Some of the pink are like $1300 or something too

>still seething over this
concert is a success and will continue to be one. i'd say stay off the board for the weekend if you can't handle it but we know you'll be here

>>103771221
>it's 6000 vs 6000 across two, they literally sold more
They will have around 5300 fans on the first day of the concert (even less for the second day). A 2 day concert for Hololive doesn't change the fact the actual number of fans that will spend money on concert tickets has declined. There are over 300 standard admission (not resold) tickets for day 1 so it's not even an issue of scalpers.

>>103771865
>Hololive WON.
Cover is still making plenty of money from HoloEN but you have to be a corpo bootlicker to look at this and think management hasn't damaged the EN branch. The graduations did burn away a lot of goodwill in the brand name especially with how they were handled.

>>103772347
Why are holopedos like this?

>>103772347
see >>103772347

>>103772440
So you assume that the 11k tickets bought are people that bought two tickets for one concert?

>>103772440
>The graduations did burn away a lot of goodwill in the brand name especially with how they were handled.

If Fauna wants to suck dick, let her suck dick, innit?

>>103772450
>pedo
liggerBR you admitted you use the pedo botnet.
You're a pedophile.
>>103772481
>no proof so he quotes in rage
I accept your seething concession.

>>103772440
>They will have around 5300 fans on the first day of the concert (even less for the second day). A 2 day concert for Hololive doesn't change the fact the actual number of fans that will spend money on concert tickets has declined.
It literally does tho? Are you retarded? lol
Lets go with your 5300 estimate, 5300 + 5300 would be 10600, which would more than double of the 6000 from 2023
That's quite literally an incline of sale

>>103769510 (OP)
Good. This should tell Cover which branch to prioritize. holoEN is dead. All resources should just be given to holoJP.

>>103769510 (OP)
When you think about how a single JP Holomem can effortlessly fill a 20,000-seat venue, it really shows just how small EN’s influence is—let alone Saba’s. Rainbow Corp’s decision to focus on the domestic market, rather than on the fickle overseas audience, was the right one.

I bought a shitty ticket for $17.50, so if it's empty I can move up!

>>103772710
>Em-slash
Now it's AI the one writing slop

>>103772440
>The graduations did burn away a lot of goodwill in the brand name especially with how they were handled.
Only initially because Fauna never clarified anything. It was pretty apparent that the
>disagreements with management
meant VASTLY different things for the girls who left.
Now looking back we can say nothing's really changed, and the people who weren't doomers were vindicated.
All of this seething from browncorders about AFO happening to begin with is really only further proof of that.

>>103772710
SEAmurai... niji needs almost 3x the vtubers to match HoloJP...

>>103770532
>surely having Gura would've changed this!!!
Ngl, this could change things a bit

>>103772619
keep going you might guess the right race if you keep throwing it out there retarded faggot

>>103772984
How could have Gura stopped Ticketmaster's monopoly on reselling, something that affected even motherfucking Taylor Swift?

>>103772496
>So you assume that the 11k tickets bought are people that bought two tickets for one concert?
Yes, the vast majority of the fans willing to spend enough money to attend day 1 of the concert are likely going to day 2 as well (there is only a 100 ticket sales decline for the second day). The EN graduations definitely torched the overall mood but there aren't that many idol fans that would exclusively attend either day 1 or day 2.

>>103773043
t. seething brown who's going to start larping as a White man

>>103773075
Keeping in mind that some of these tickets were at 1000 dollars, Holofans are apparently filthy fucking rich, enough to buy TWICE of each.

Your argument is ridiculous, man, and the fact that you have to jump through hoops to argue that 11 thousand tickets sold, DOUBLE of last year, is bad, only proves to me that the concert was a success, and that you are doing nothing but grasping at straws.

>>103773075
>Yes, the vast majority of the fans willing to spend enough money to attend day 1 of the concert are likely going to day 2 as well
Ok? How is this suppose to make Holo look bad in your mind?
>Superman made $600 million dollars at the box office, but millions of those dollars came from repeat-viewers, so it doesn't count!!!
Nobody argues like this lmao

>>103773114
okay seafag lol

>I'm not brown
>you're brown
/vt/ in a nutshell

>>103769510 (OP)
Before Ticketmaster opened their Additional Sales: sold out in minutes
Right now, after TM opened their Additional Sales:
>Day 1: 309 unsold tickets
>Day 2: 338 unsold tickets
IDK, I have this feelings that Hololive and the girls are going to profit just fine from this. What a mystery

The Ticketmaster page is still using images of Gura and the others to promote it. False advertising.

>>103773309
Still waiting on that proof, pablo.

>>103772440
>The graduations did burn away a lot of goodwill in the brand name especially with how they were handled.
The graduations were just the lazy members leaving. Sabacucks are already coping about how boring she is without the allure of being a member of Hololive. EN will be much healthier in the long run since Nimi and Saba drew away a lot of the more cancerous dramaniggers and people who hate idol stuff

>>103769510 (OP)
>Mint and Doki sold out their concert tickets
>holo didn't
>niji didn't
>phase didn't
>brave didn't
Indie chads... I KNEEL

>>103773045
What does reselling have to do with the concert no selling out? There's a bunch of seats that are not resale tickets, just regular ass sitting that no one bought

>>103775322
More people attending this concert than every indie, nijiEN, and phase concert that's ever happened combined.
Cope, liggerspic.

>>103770229
nijiseethe

>>103769577
FIPPY BIPPY
BASED DUBS

>>103772622
>10600, which would more than double of the 6000

>>103771754
Looks like it sold out in this image with the exception of disability seats, so why did they decided to open a week before concert?

>>103771754
Looks like it got sold out in this image with the exception of disability seats, so why did they decided to open another seats a week before concert date?

>>103777161 me
Forgot the image

>>103777183
>>103777161
The ones that opened are the low visibility seats, there's something in the way that makes them less desirable compared to normal seats, but they open them regardless when everything else has sold out in case someone wants to take the risk regardless of what their experience might be
they did the same for BD, but they opened them like two weeks before instead of it being this late, so last time they actually also sold out those

>>103777161
>>103777183
Large image
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any chumbuds who attend this concert is a fake fan

>>103777161
>>103775372
People have talked about this many times, but that's how Ticketmaster works.
The concert sold out all tickets initially. However, most of the tickets opened in the "Additional Sales" were tickets returned to Ticketmaster by scalpers who were working directly with TM since those scalpers couldn't sell those tickets. The "regular ass sitting" were actually scalped tickets that people didn't want to buy - that's why you can see clumps of blue dots in the additional sales.

>>103770032
>using Saba to anti Hololive
nijiniggers are pathetic

>>103777183
That looks like 90% of the seats were sold. You don't need a 100% sell out for the event to be profitable so what are people dooming about? It's twice as big as last years theatre so it shows the additional demand was there but going any larger is probably not possible at this point until Hololive grows more in the US

What's crazy is this is 4 times as big as nimi/dooby concert hall, lmao, indievengers, nijiniggers, all the same fucking retards

>>103770032
>nijinig

>>103769510 (OP)
notKiara got like 500 people in her mini concert.
Dooby and Nimi got 1k
So avg 1 talent = 500 people
For this EN concert you got 6k venue but since 80-90% of the people that will go to day 1 will also go to day 2 so the average per talent probably should be around the same 1 talent = 500 people.
Still did great but future expectations will be lower now

>>103777358
Saba is a Hololive anti

>>103777161
Cover held them back to give people one last chance.
https://all-for-one.hololivepro.com/tickets/
>Additional Ticket Sales
>Sales Period : 12PM, August 11

>>103770032
/zMUHNW7y+DnTWwf42ITrQA==/;stub:no;

>>103777912
>>103778182

>>103777438
Scalpers gonna scalp. I am curious how much of the venue will be filled up with all the crying going on about people in the red for buying multiple tickets.

>>103772619
being a pedo is no longer a bad thing apperently since the burgerlanders elected a pedo rapist to represent them that means all of Burgerlanders is Pedos

>>103772710
>When you think about how a single JP Holomem can effortlessly fill a 20,000-seat venue, it really shows just how small EN’s influence is—let alone Saba’s.
Even JP boards admit that Gura was the only one in EN comparable to the JP branch.
Gura could do karaoke and fill in the seats.
Cover kept underestimating Gura, her merch selling out by day 2 for month-long Guranium and Sushiro events. IPass breaking records, selling more than Marvel and Disney. Continual re-releases of her Nendoroid....3 or 4? Gura was probably fed up with Cover's faith in her.. Chumbuds are not poorfags.

>>103781950
*Cover's lack of faith

Without Gura, HoloEN is -50% YoY.
While Saba does a million in sales with her first merch release.

>>103782014
The cover did have faith, though. Faith that she was going to do her job and not some useless piece of shit.
Clearly, they put their faith in the wrong person.

>>103782290
Again, even with less streaming, she was making Cover millions and breaking records with corporate obligations.
They should have let her cook, instead of removing half of her 3D Live and cancelling her daki, so she had no merch for it. That's when she started speaking out in her membership streams.

Hololive: gotta protect the brand.
VShojo: You are a disgrace for streaming wizard game. Enjoy your suspension.
Mythic: How dare you stream with Russian speakers.
Corporations are all the same, forgetting that the talents are what make them, not the other way around.

>>103782487
Like it or not, HoloEN is much more than just Gura. Cover was right to stop Gura from jeopardizing the whole branch's reputation just because she wanted to pedobait (Biboo also wants to pedobait, but Gura saw her as an enemy rumao)

>>103782487
My personal theory is that after the destruction of NijiEN caused little damage to Nijisansaji, Cover began to give less importance to HoloEN and that's why they let Gura go.
At the end of the day, they are Japanese, and in their work culture, someone as lazy as Gura is unacceptable.

>>103782652
You may not have noticed, but the girls who left were part of the resistance.
Yes, Gura had too much influence, refusing to collab with Stars. Cover being petty added more restrictions in retaliation. Like the cuts in her 3D Lives, projects, and Daki, which would be no problem in JP. Gura going over their heads to get approval from JP must have really pissed them off.
SNOT is out, minus Kronii. And she has stories of management ignoring her. As well as Kiara not collaborating with Stars also brought her frustrations from management that made her want to quit.
While it was the resistance that kept HoloEN afloat after Cover's misdirection and greed for Stars that almost destroyed them.

>>103782680
>someone as lazy as Gura is unacceptable.
Gura didn't reduce streams until after failed contract negotiations, and her 'Uh Oh' Senzawa tweet. She was on her way out after that, starting her 'Ash Again' song while still doing her corporate obligations.

Working on your own is far from being lazy. It's a huge increase in work. Staying in and just doing as they say is arguably more lazy. She could have always gone the affiliate route and made both Cover and her millions of money.

>>103783120
cover Paying Casey Edwards to compose a song isn't exactly the best example of hardwork
for example CC did way more work for her first song

>>103783166
>cover Paying Casey Edwards to compose a song
Tourist

>>103783166
>cover paying casey edwards
C'mon now...

>>103782487
>cancelling her daki
Are you a retard?

They should ask Phase to partner with them to sell the rest of the tickets. A joint collab with the other idol company would benefit everyone.

>>103783229
What Gura said in her membership stream. It was denied, not approved, etc. and had to fight for it.
Sucked to spend all that money on the 3D Live with no merch to sell. With a just coming soon message. That was not released until around HoloFes. Would have sold double if released on time.

>>103783178
>>103783189
I know that normally the talents pay

for all of that, but I have no doubts that the only reason why Gura did anything for her graduation was because of pressure from cover, that's why I know that they were the ones who paid.

>>103783408
>that's why I know that they were the ones who paid.
Shown that you are really retarded. Should have kept your mouth shut.

>>103769510 (OP)
The most preposterous part of this horseshit OP is implying that Ame or Fauna were headliners in any way for the concert side of things

I know this is a shitpost thread, but I do wonder what amount of Canadian fans decided to not go because of the trade war going on.

Also hearing about Canadian tourists getting detained by ICE every other week hasn't been particularly appealing on the idea of traveling to the USA for a concert.

>>103784450
0%

>>103769510 (OP)
EN5 couldn't come fast enough.

>>103769510 (OP)
Should have held it in Europe for once.

>>103784450
Please go outside, touch grass and live in the real world.

>>103785634
Yeah, there is a ton of sea and south american fans who can't go because they need a visa and the interview to get one is 12 months aways thanks to their new dear leader.