Thread 103785828

Who was in the right here?

@immergrok can give me a summary please

She's right, as always. People tend to underestimate the work behind the scene some talent do and they just compare the results with the other, without understanding the context. It's not healthy to be like that. She did a lot of stuff when she was in japan and much of it we already seen, like her being 3D guest star, the song she made with Mori and the songs she made with Advent, etc...

>>103785828 (OP)
Clearly Nerissa was in the wrong for not bringing a gaming PC, microphones etc to New York to set up in the hotel room.

She got one guy'd bad, oof. Nothing that a little bloodraven pandering on twitter won't fix.

>>103785828 (OP)
Jailbirds, that’s why she’s mad

>>103785828 (OP)
Nerissa needs to stop reading fucking comments. She literally stopped doing karaoke and gaming streams because of fucking anti messages. This is bordering on mental illness.
One person literally destroy her content output by telling her it's bad.

>>103785828 (OP)
People who whine openly like they're in a personal discord server deserve immediate bans. Zero delicacy, not that I expect any better from ENsharts

>>103785887
Woman! just ban those guys! also fuck you Myron and Shinji get in the fucking robot and kys

>>103785970
What came first, the anti or the lack of content?

>>103786027
Anti, she basically almost entirely stopped gaming content when randos called her bad in chat during FF7 rebirth. Then balatro caused her to almost stop streaming altogether.

I'd kill myself for having fans like this, glad I'm not an idol!

>>103786054
What was the anti complaining about then....?

>>103785828 (OP)
NERISSA HARD WORK IS SHIT TOTALLY DISAPPOINTING

>>103785970
She needs thicker skin. Not everyone is gonna like you, but if you have a large enough and devoted enough following, they will combat your haters for you and you can just ignore them. But if you stop doing streaming shit as a streamer, you start to lose your large and devoted following and then the Haters become louder with less pushback and they start saying things that have truth to them.

>>103785913
She should already have a good laptop. It really doesnt take much to do a zatsu stream

>>103785887
Nerissa doesn't want to stream and the noticers are beginning to speak up.

>>103785828 (OP)
Can you really call someone your oshi if you're complaining about them like this? I thought an oshi is someone you promote, not drag down.

>>103786069
Antis complain about things other than lack of content you fucking retard. They also complain about all the content that gets produced. The image in the OP literally shows this on its own.

>>103785828 (OP)
>>103785970

Is Nerissa the new Mori of feeding the trolls?

Myron van Rooijメンバー(1 年) I think this is possibly the least hyped concert so far. It's just radio silent and it's most likely BloodRaven in the concert...

>>103785828 (OP)
I dont know why people are calling these trolls, most of this criticism seems pretty reasonable

>>103786054
What did she expect? Endless compliments from the start until the end of time? People have opinions about things they're invested in. She should take the bitching as a compliment that people care about her.
The alternative is no comments and she'd bitch about that too.

You can go read the chat right now and see it's a fucking nothing and a few jailbirds being needy. Stop reading cherry picked posts and actually go to the source instead of wasting bandwidth on this shit you faggots.
Fuck you OP your thread sucks.
IncaRaven don't post about this shithole in talent chats you imbecil.

>>103786192
>Stop reading cherry picked posts
tell that to Rissa, you fucking retard!

>>103786121
I believe you are the retard here. Everyone in the image is complaining about the lack of content. There was nothing to complain about before. It doesn't make any sense why they would have caused it.

>>103785913
I don't think the main point is "why aren't you streaming from a hotel" it's that she is literally not communicating AT ALL, not advertising her OWN songs, not talking about a concert SHE IS PART OF, she's just gone. It's basically a Gura situation. The difference is that Gura fucking obviously didn't give a rats ass about her own fans, but Nerissa does. But instead of listening to the criticism and improving she just whines about it being demotivating. Like bitch it's not hard to tweet out some hype, it doesn't interfere with your fucking off-stream work, it takes 5 seconds.

>>103785828 (OP)
Even if they’re being rude and inconvenient, they’re not a minority. Check her general, the fans are upset and leaving. She doesn’t seem to enjoy what she’s doing either, the mood is bad.

>>103785828 (OP)
Retarded fucking Yuro

>>103786104
>makes a sudden and massive change in behavior (no streams, no communication)
>everyone is wondering what the heck happened
>you've waited for months and nothing has improved
>it's actually getting worse
>you're at the crossroads of oshihening but you really, really, really want to stay
Can you blame them?

>>103785828 (OP)
>>103786275
yes because these retards are not fans but anti's

>>103786290
lying asshole

>>103786275
>hololive is just about streaming
Yeah i can blame them if they don't understand what their oshi is doing.

>>103786244
>Gura fucking obviously didn't give a rats ass about her own fans, but Nerissa does
>Nerissa does
lmao, this is a problem she has had for over a year, its not something new from her, she says that she loves hololive, she says she loves her fans but her actions never show it

>>103785887
Huge faggot named Myron just ruined AFO for Nerissa

>>103786326
Fans would be far more tolerant and happier if there was a baseline of like 10 streams a month. That's not a lot. Why not balance around that? Everyone knows the fans are happier with streams than without. Why does this even need to be said?

If day 1 members tell you they're disappointed in you, maybe you've really run out of goodwill and should wake the fuck up

>>103786344
based

>>103785913
throwback to when moona streamed in her car

she hates males so she hates you

>>103785828 (OP)
Paying does not grant the right to educate your oshi or boast about alerting her, and is intended to enjoy her content, not to influence collaborations. Both parties violated their codes, so cease the argument. They received what they deserved.

>>103785896
>Guys i'm working really hard behind the scenes/on a biiiiiiig project
This excuse has lost all credibility a long time ago.

>>103786503
Because your oshi was Gura who never produced anything. Nerissa actively produces and appears in stuff.

>>103786404
day1 that nigger doesnt even have the money to attend the concert. Pretty sure he is lying about the ticket as well >>103786290

>>103786491
Nigga what content. She doesn't tweet let alone stream. She hasn't said a single thing about AFO till now

>>103785828 (OP)
Japan arcs kill EN growth, and they're getting longer every year. Justice is far more fucked than Nerissa with their months long stay there.

SHE HATES MALES SHE HATES YOUUUUU

>>103786503
>This excuse has lost all credibility a long time ago.
rissa appeared in 3 fucking 3d lives had multiple songs drops on her channel + is actively working on advent 3d live

YOU RETARDS SHE MADE A FUCKING 3D KINO FOR YOUR GUYS SOMETHING THAT NO ONE IN HOLO HAS DONE TILL NOW ARE YOU THIS STUPID?

Holy fuck im seething for the first time in a long while seeing how stupid this fanbase is

Why do I feel like this thread was made by this Myron faggot because he can't accept he was a rude, insufferable faggot that hurt Rissa's feelings and is now trying to justify his cringe autistic behavior by getting subhumans on /vt/ to agree with him?

>>103786275
Yes, you can blame them. They clearly never enjoyed her content and should absolutely put a bullet in their head. You can't consistently pick oshis that are the opposite of what you claim to want and expect anyone to take you seriously. Nerissa literally got into Hololive for the music side, not the streaming side. This was never a secret.

>>103786368
>Why not balance around that?
You and me don't really know the answer, so it's useless to pretend. All i can say is that she was really busy and not being able to stream for several reasons (even rest is a thing, especially for your voice and you don't want to fuck it up), and so she tried to spend most of the time in both spending time with her holo friends in japan and collabing with her, working with them and helping them, while still being able to work on her own projects like what she did with Advent for example.

>>103786580

I am not even a jailbird but this is the saddest fanbase to exist in hololive. You guys are unironically going to make her graduate

>>103786592
Should have stayed a fucking utaite then. Nobody will give a fuck about your music if they don't relate to you one way or another. Even motherfucking Mori gets it.

Expecting STREAMS from a STREAMER is not wrong
Expecting a bare fucking minimum of tweets as communication and excitement building before one of the biggest HoloEN events of the year is not wrong
This is Gura all over again, except instead of Nerissa blatantly loathing her fanbase, she's just retarded. No one gives a fucking shit about "Oh I'm working so hard behind the scenes uwu!" For what? A song that the average fan will listen to a few times? It's nice, sure. But in comparison to four, five hours of streaming content where your oshi is actually talking, chatting, being a real person? It doesn't compare.

HOLOS.
MUST.
STREAM.

If you just wanna sing, get the fuck out and release music on your own Youtube channel.

NERISSA HAVE TO GRADUTED

>>103786237
You want people to believe you are this retarded but it would not be possible for you to survive.

>>103786583
The thread wasnt made by him but that nigger sure is /here/ and fag forgot to change his username because both his linkedin and other personal social media are in full display

>>103786244
She's not putting no effort in because she's about to graduate, I think she's saving most of her new songs for her indie run. I think she's just gonna reduce her Holo commitment and output and then try to have an explosive indie start with new songs and play all the games she really wants to play, as an indie.

>>103786619
>Nobody will give a fuck about your music if they don't relate to you one way or another
Speak for yourself.

>>103786632
such a sad existence you are even tanjiro wont cry for you

>>103786668
NERISSA HATES YOU

>>103786628
>Expecting STREAMS from a STREAMER is not wrong
She is not just a streamer.
Get over it.

If you want "just streamers" don't watch hololive then.

>>103786628
Nijinigger detected

>>103785828 (OP)
Myron’s gonna get shadowbanned and won’t even realize it

>>103786628
Go back to your twitch whores tourist

>>103786580
And others do the same thing and still manage to stream. Weird.
But the current problem is she doesn't even fucking communicate either.

The niji defense force is active in this thread.

>>103786628
>I'm openly and defiantly going to admit I'm not a fan but you should cater to me anyway! I'm going to continue to cry and shit my pants until you acknowledge me!

>>103786547
Hate to break this to you but i have never, not even once, watch anything related to gura.

>>103785970
>>103786054
KEK, that's sad. Eventually she's gonna get criticized into having nothing left to do and being forced to graduate.
All it would take is one guy to talk shit about her cooking skills on the chat.

Hololyzer does not capture chat messages like this, especially from member only waiting rooms

>>103785828 (OP)
NO YOU ARE NOT WORKING HARD BEHIND THE SCENES
YOU ARENT THE FIRST ONE TO SAY THAT AND ITS NEVER TRUE
YOU ARE A VTUBER
YOU
DO
NOT
WORK
HARD
ITS THE EASIEST JOB ON THE PLANET

>>103786759
I assume it's one of those things where she assumes all fans are lying to her to make her feel good (because that's how she is as a fan) and so takes any negative comments as the truthful people.

>please upload a schedule so i can give you free money
>UHHHHHH I FUCKING HATE THIS JOB BAKA
What explains this behaviour? was she born rich or something?

NERISSA PLS GRADUATED

>>103786787
trvth nvke

>>103785931
It's not one guy, this is the sentiment of the EN community by large, the rest are just ignoring it or moving to focusing on their JP fans. Now you know why.

>>103786825
THE AFO effect is pretty much evident in this thread

>>103786855
rent

>>103786735
>And others do the same thing and still manage to stream
Again with this bullshit argument. You shouldn't compare it with other holomems because all of them have their pace and things to do. For example Gigi explained how in her 3D live Calli was totally unscripted, she didn't have any choreography to learn, while Nerissa had some guidelines and the dance to do.

>>103786855
This as well. Keep it up NDF and Cuckconnect troons

>>103785896
I'm tired of it constantly eating into EVERYONES schedules all the time. It's not just her who's had decrease, across the board EN is streaming far less than they were last year, average hours per talent. I want to remind you that that was with Gura, Ame, and Mumei who were all notoriously low hours on the roster.
Fuck this gay shit, I'm tired of constant sponsorship shit and recordings.

what's the point of faking something like this for a fanbase that barely exists? If you're going to do something with this kind of effort, at least try and target something worthy, like grems

>>103786787
lol you have no idea what the 3D and song practice and recording shit they do entails, sometimes they have 9AM - 10PM days in the studio, it'd make the average wagie cry

IMAGINE JOINING HOLOLIVE JUST TO NOT STREAMING

>>103786628
Hololive is a group of entertainers / idols, not pure streamers

>>103786933
IMAGINE JOINING NIJISANJI AND NOT TO SEXPEST

>>103785828 (OP)
Nerissa. Fans arent entitled to shit

>>103786881
You can't just handwave it with "muh pace". At some point a certain pace isn't good enough. If she's that inefficient, she doesn't deserve to work at the company.

>>103786653
>play all the games she really wants to play, as an indie.
>play games
confirmed not a jailbird

>im busy behind the scenes
>at best its over produced slop that an AI could reproduce
MANY SUCH CASES.

>>103786785
It's the schedule chat she hasn't changed since before FES

>>103786933
IMAGINE JOINING KEKCONNECT AND NOT WHORING YOURSELF

it's unprofessional for her to respond this way. if she sees criticism about failing to tweet and communicate then she can respond by tweeting and communicating. this is a bare minimum. if she's having trouble doing that then she needs help from her management. her gaming streams were difficult to watch because she made it repeatedly clear she doesn't like gaming, or at least not for an audience. the criticism being made is constructive and not merely insulting. this whole exchange is pathetic and immature on her part.

>>103786564
Justice? More like the ends not justifying the means.
Seriously, who thought it was a good idea to hamper their normal activities with almost half a year of preparation just for a few hours worth of content?

All caps English this bad should be an autoban after the third post.

>/ope/ unironically call people who actually care about Nerissa's wellbeing the Nerissa Defense Force
God damn even antis are not this brutal to their supposed oshi

>>103786913
Not fake
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/normal/Criw5zhE0bI.html

>both pfps wearing sunglasses
what are the chances this is the same person talking to themselves

>>103786798
Isn't that the description of most twitter Ruffians?

>>103786941
They didn't gain their popularity from idol shit, they gained it from being consistant streamers. It's easier for multiple talent to not stream on the JP side because they have almost triple the roster size of EN. If 5 girls are hardcore focused on recordings at any given time, there's another 35 to pick from. Meanwhile on the EN side if 5 cut down you've got more than 1/3rd of the roster mia.

>>103786950
>If she's that inefficient, she doesn't deserve to work at the company.
Since she is still in the company and we have no official punishment from her behavior seems like she's working fine. So your argument it's pretty much baseless.
Working with pace is healthy and it's a good thing a corpo doesn't punish this. Also you're still pretending her working time and stress.

>>103786962
Gotcha, I was looking for an AFO cheering waiting room, my bad
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/normal/Criw5zhE0bI.html

>>103785828 (OP)
Nerissa for sure. Wow.

>>103786977
>care about Nerissas wellbeing
she doesnt stream
she doesnt do orisongs
she really doesnt do anything so her wellbeing should be in tip top shape

>>103786550
Nigga, you stepped into her Scammania. You paid for her, not your right, so stop crying. That’s what you deserved.

nerissa fan: they/them

>lazy whore guilt tripping her fans
she should just graduate, I've seen this one far too many times

>>103786974
Isn't 3 hours cumulative of singing and dancing worth months of lost streams? Not to mention a majority of the talents are now squeezing in ad streams when they can make it.

>>103787026
how is your well being anon? you seem to be quite upset

>>103787026
>she doesnt do orisongs
>he forgot the song with mori and the song with advent

>>103786957
kek

WHERE ARE THE LESBIANS NOT DEFENDING THEY SLOP OF VTUBER

Please be nice to nerissa she is working hard
EN hours streamed year to Date(Aug 1st)
Biboo 813 hours
Kiara 458 hours
GG 448 hours
Raora 439 hours
Mori 418 hours
FWMC 393 hours
Bae 366 hours
IRyS 350 hours
Shiori 336 hours
CC 322 hours
Kronii 298 hours
ERB 241 hours
Ina 216 hours
Nerissa 212 hours

>>103785828 (OP)
Nerissa by a mile
What a huge fucking faggot to do this shit before AFO

>>103787010
You don't get punished in Hololive. It's not a meritocracy. No one has ever been fired for poor performance.

>>103786922
>lol you have no idea what the 3D and song practice and recording shit they do entails, sometimes they have 9AM - 10PM days in the studio
Fuck off, Yagoo! no one asked for this shit!! they will always be mid on stage!! they will NEVER become idols!!! In fact, it’s a disrespect to the true idols out there!! their performances will always be subpar but the vibes will carry them because holofans will eat up anything you throw at them!!!!

>>103787064
Numbers of SOLO original songs this year:
>IRyS: 4 (5 if you count the sponsored song)
>Mori: 3
>Kiara: 2
>FWMC: 1 (2 if you count the sponsored song)
>Bae: 1
>Ina: 1
>ERB: 1
>CC: 1
>Raora: 1
>Nerissa “ the demon of sound” Ravencroft: 0

>>103786834
This. Faggots /here/ were just crying about the EN girls focusing on JP bros, then they constantly do this shit and wonder

>>103787026
She's in New York hanging out with her friends on a Cover mandated vacation
You'd need to be the biggest retard on the planet to spoil the mood for her

>>103787109
You nijinigger always larp as holofans dont you

>>103787126
>SOLO

Clearly the fault comes from ERB. Nerissa puts too much of her time trying to save/prop her up as well as being seen as the inferior singer so she doesn't want to sing live anymore.

>>103787139
they arent in new york lil pup you are being lied to

I really don't know why she thought it was a good idea to spend most of the year on other people's projects and then use it as an excuse to not make your own content and be more distant, did she think it wasn't going to have its own consequences? well here it is: a demoralized fanbase.

>>103785828 (OP)
I guess Nerissa needs to step up her game and indoctrinate the jailbirds squizos to the point that they become like chumkeks, with every Rissa's interaction, even the smaller and drier ones, being celebrated as the best day of their lives.

>>103785828 (OP)
they're both right, they're right to be annoyed by the lack of communication, she's right to be disappointed that they're annoyed
it's just another problem caused by the corpo

>>103787126
>fwmc
>Solo

Yeah nigger we know exactly what the fuck you are

>>103785828 (OP)
Jailbirds are right, for tourists and those who don't know what's going on with Nerissa, the concert is today and she still hasn't made a SINGLE tweet or community post this week about the upcoming main concert for Holo EN, unlike the other holomems who are sharing with their fans how excited they are for it, all we've gotten from her is a couple of vague tweets about flip ice cream and how she woke up early.
Plus she didn't attend any of the parties with the other holomems in New York and no one mentioned her except for a one vague tweet from the dogs, which is a repeat of last year when she spent all of her time during BD with unknown 2kviews fleshtubers instead of holomems.

>>103785828 (OP)
With fans like these, who needs antis.

>>103787178
Then fuck dont be near her go memba gura or some one from phase or niji then fucking retard

>>103787105
A corpo who pays people and manager to support them not fireing for poor performance? You're reaching at this point.
But again you have no proof to say she is doing "poor performance".

>>103786757
>she's just like Gura, who I nerver watched before
Why makes the comparison?

>>103787188
No why arent the rosarian's seething then? Erb fucking post a single emote per day and if you say thats communication please kys

Having a /vt/-level conversation in the chatroom is so insanely tacky and insulting.

>>103787215
>she is doing "poor performance".
MYRON get the fuck away from here. Go to nijisanji they need people like you there

>>103787126
>Muh solos
You fags always find a way to complain about her
Hope she stands her ground and excommunicate you fags

>>103786628
This faggot will get a lot of heat for saying this, but he's right.

>>103787271
Yeah because that surely will make her limited merch sell out next time (Spoiler alert: it won't, again.)

>>103786905
Just watch twitchwhores who streams 25 hours per day doing reactslop and sleeping.

>>103787173
Using this logic, Kiara should have 0 orisongs after 2020, as she's always pushing for support of everyone else. You don't belong here, phasekek.

FAGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>103787282
New direction bros still expecting streams from idols is like asking a retard to solve math problems.

>>103787289
My Nerigga, Nerissa is the reactslop holo!

>>103787138
Then start speaking Japanese every stream and focus on JP fans. Kick everyone out if they don't matter.

I hope jannies will wake the fuck up and remove these fucking ope retards from /vt/

Imagine watching this slop of vtuber who hates you unless you are a lesbian

>>103787289
You're a fucking retard if you think streaming wasn't the thing that made Hololube popular, both for EN and for JP

>>103787287
A lot of talents had trouble moving merch recently because of tariffs

>>103786054
Why can't she just be like Liz and then people that if they expect pro gameplay this is not the place?

its unfortunate that stuff like this only encourages such people to make more shitty comments

>>103786104
Sounds like cuckling speak

>>103785828 (OP)
Nerissa is always right and those "jailbirds" should be disowned

I was a fan of Nerissa's in the beginning but her wanting to always do easy mode games or dumb down the game to her level was a turn off for me. Watching somewhat competent Holos play things with a fuck up here and there is great. Watching someone that has to play on easy and still struggle is just a sign of being a retarded woman.

>>103787327
/ope/ is going to cause some incident IRL and get this board deleted.
It's a breeding ground for schizos that constantly break the rules and jannies don't care.

>>103787327
>>103787431
That bad, huh? I had no idea.

>>103785828 (OP)
Nerissa learns from the best, I see.

>>103787431
Everytime i check /ope/ is always a mess of people crying and shit on her dedicated thread.

I love Nerissa but yeah i don't want to put a foot in there.

>>103785828 (OP)
I see. Now I understand so many anti Saba threads...

>>103787431
Good, fuck this place. Everyone is disingenuous, whether they're an anti shitting on someone and taking everything out of context or a fag who never stops playing hyper defense for even the mildest of criticisms. I fucking hate a majority of the fags on this board, they're obsessed, mind-broken retards.

>>103787350
They have a concert soon, this is nothing new. They always are busy during that time.
Why is everyone surprised from the lack of streams, even so her last stream was 5 days ago.

>>103787521
IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS SINCE FES
Tourists like you shouldntpvyn't get to talk

Nerissa is never getting better. Just leave.

She's addicted to victimization lmao, what a manipulative bitch.

>>103787175
The problem schizos like you will always have is some of EN's most prominent members are extremely open with pictures on their personal accounts, so any conspiracies about how they "didn't actually travel" never work. The way to know which ones didn't travel is which ones are never connected to any of the others who did travel. Nerissa is potentially one of those, since the only reference people seem to point to that she's in New York is basically nothing. But it could be that she's doing basic bitch New York things and not Hololive things which is the same thing her EN oshi tends to do when traveling.

Can I super chat to Myron instead? He deserves it over these lazy whores

>>103787080
These numbers are garbage btw since they don't count time spend on other channels which would boost some of them significantly

>>103787456
*blocks your path*

>>103787521
The overall streaming average has gone down quite a bit for talents on average in EN over the last year. No one wants to address that, even though last year had Mumei, Ame, and Gura included. It's fucking pathetic.

>>103787227
Because it is obvious and easy to understand?

>>103787545
Well last year during breaking dimensions she opted to hang out with some 2viewmale vtubers at AnimeNYC instead of going sightseeing with the other Holo girls.

>>103787555
Stream hours mean pressing the OBS button "start streaming"
Being lazy on other people's channel is not streaming

>>103787582
Don't forget, she force fed that faggot male vtuber by hand all day like a doting gf

>>103785828 (OP)
Dude has a whole Linkedin with the same name and pfp.

>>103787175
Ah so they are all in Japan at Moris place then instead?
RETARD

>>103787485
Because you're a casual who doesn't realize how bad it is

>>103785828 (OP)
>myron van rooij
What a fat fucking loser.

>>103787576
>The overall streaming average has gone down quite a bit for talents on average in EN over the last year.
This is a bold faced lie.
Also it's nowhere near as bad as 2022.

>>103787608
>law fag
No wonder, these people are obnoxious

>>103786993
No, she was literally popular for her music and had more subscribers on her main channel than she did as a vtuber when she debuted even with the Cover buff, which was mostly focused on her singing at the time. She was never overtaken in subs by the streaming members of Advent which shows her popularity never came from streaming unless streaming made the others less popular.

>>103786104
>DONT GIVE FEEDBACK JUST CONSUME SLOP
holopedos....

>>103787537
Are you ok bro, maybe get a job or something.

>>103787608
what a chad

>>103787511
It's straight up one of the worst boards on the whole website, yes. It's a glimpse into what /incel/ - Internet Celebrities would be like.

>>103785828 (OP)
Praise be to Gooba she is right in all things.
Holo is trash if you have any talent they try to make you do recordings 12 hours a day and only shill overpriced junk during streams.
The only people who actually stream are the ones who can't sing or dance and can barely even speak like Biboo, Kaela, and Raora.
Only retards are on twitter all day long having public melties and responding to permanently online invalids.
Just retweet fan art for 4 minutes and have your meltdowns offline in private like a civilized person.

>>103787608
He looks like a tool lol

>>103785828 (OP)
Most ENs have stopped streaming in recent weeks to prepare for the New York concert including Subaru who's a guest apparently.
t. starving otomo/subatomo

>critical thinker
>not afraid to speak his mind
>challenges the status quo

>>103787608
What an incredibly American European.

After shiori NTRd her fans I tried being a jailbird and it.makes me sad, I like her streams and music but she barely streams, even her just chatting streams are two hours long. All she does is lesbian bait on Twitter

Hope she gets better soon

>>103787687
In his defense, he did just that

>>103787140
>says the election tourist on vtuber board

How do people here unironically defend this overly-distant behavior from her? Do they expect it to get better if they just pretend there's no problem? That obviously will never be the solution, and those people are definitely not her fans and don't care about her, because anyone would feel demoralized if this extreme lack of activity were happening to their own oshis that they got used to enjoying content of frequently.

>>103787722
The ones defending it don't even watch her.

>>103787681
FUCKING RETARD JAILBIRDS HAVE BEEN STARVING FOR 6 MONTHS

>>103786922
My guy have you seen the afo choreo, any amateur dancer can learn this shit in 2 hours. Idol reps are a joke

>>103787582
To be fair, that is consistent with the overall trend that it's the white Americans in HoloEN that hate New York.

>>103787667
It would be half as bad if we actually had /incel/ since half or by now the majority of fags here are dramaniggers that don't give a single shit about any of the content or people, they just want to gossip and shitpost.

>>103787608
Is his discord name also Myron? just ban that guy over there, no one’s gonna blame the mod

>>103787681
This hasn't stopped them from communicating with their fans via twitter and community posts on yt, unlike Nerissa, which is the main difference and the jailbirds' resentment.

>>103787681
what's a subatomo

>>103787722
literally tourists. Everyone that's been watching her for a long time knows she's unique in her laziness now that all the lazy whores graduated

>>103787591
>singing and dancing in other people's channel is lazy

>>103787681
>otomo
Godspeed. This year has not been kind to you.

Nerissa is growing subs fast despite not streaming, she just noticed she can just stick to behind the scenes stuff and she'll get 1M before biboo and shiori no problem

>>103787722
They are clip watchers or those who don't watch her and don't consider her their oshi

>>103787722
Suisei and marine don't stream alot too. Same as raden. It is fine to not stream much in hololive

You guys are just going to have to accept that EN girls have been enlightened about the fact that Hololive is a great stepping stone toward the final destination of going indie.
This was bound to happen.

>thread exist for an hour
>suddenly after that hour multiple "but niji!" posts appear few minutes apart
I'm nooticing

You guys are arguing if the middle aged married woman streams enough or not.

>>103787760
holy newfag

>>103787779
dead subs from japs tourists and La+ bdsm asmr stream

>>103787188
She has no phone please understand.

Who do you think you are convincing you fucking faggot? Yourself? Nobody buys a blatant idol anti like you is a Hololive fan in any capacity.
And if you are, what the fuck are you doing here, go watch your indie avengers or something.

>>103787722
People are starting to pull the same "SHE'S AN IDOL, NOT A STREAMER" cope that they did with Gura, and we all know how that turned out. Nevermind the fact that FWMC seem to have the time to tweet about the concert and set up a cheering room despite also being busy.

>>103787722
Holo fans are on towa not here

>>103787813
what’s a newfag

>>103787722
It's simple, just don't underestimate her work.

>>103787722
Same fags who know their favorite is also pretty lazy. Maybe not as bad as she is, but on the verge.

>>103787800
Indie avengers seem to be floundering already thanks to the lore drop.

Sorry lesbians your slop will graduate

>>103787813
I'll give you a subotomy for watching jp whores

She's streamed less than Ina without a single original song to show for it. She's not even a singer at this point.

>>103787800
LMAO this guy has been in a coma for more than a month.

>>103787722
sometimes people need a little reality check to get back on track. the retards that avoid any and all "confrontation" only contribute to the further downfall, but that's not their problem since they don't actually care and aren't real fans anyways

>>103787431
If you want to know how bad is /ope/ it is worse than /#/. they make numberfags look saint compared to the shit they say about her there.

>>103785828 (OP)
How is this not heckling? I could understand writing these complaints in comments but don't get why you'd want to basically guarantee a worse stream for everyone involved by saying this live.

>>103787869
nice try numbermonkey, now go back.

>>103787877
if you can't handle things as innocuous as this, you shouldn't bother streaming

>>103787860
>>103787842
Doesn't matter. If the girls don't like the busy idol life, Hololive will be a stepping stone to them.

>>103787877
>Nerissa
>Stream
Lmao this happened in her schedule/chatting room.

>>103787877
it's in the prechat of the schedule room she hasn't updated since FES. She doesn't stream, there are no live streams to ruin

>>103785828 (OP)
Nerissa is right. Are people really so stupid that they don't understand she's been working her butt off?

>>103787795
Raden streams frequently so of course her fans are happy, I would be happy as a clam if my oshi streamed like her

>>103787858
yet takodachi are not throwing a fit about ina streaming less and look at yourself fucking shitbird

>>103787877
>by saying this live.
The Entire problem is that isn't going live retard-chama

>>103787877
>Bitch doesn't stream
>"I don't know why you're not trying to stream a little more. I like it when you stream"
>STOP ATTACKING HERRRRR

>>103785828 (OP)
I revise my opinion, Shiori will NOT be the first member of advent to leave

>>103787918
Does Ina lie her ass off by saying she's working hard for her takodachis literally every day?

>>103787576
Biboo's average went up despite her doing more behind the scenes stuff and moving to japan so this is not true for everyone
Advent in general has a TON of behind the scenes work, they're releasing 5 orisongs, they have their own concert after AFO and biboo has her own 3D live in september

>>103787936
keep it up jailbird s

What a wonderful Saturday to spend indoors, angry about shit I didn't know about an hour ago.

>>103785896
That’s what Gura said and we never saw that huge project

Holy fuck, this thread is just one giant melty from like, 2 "jailbirds" screeching back and forth over Rissa not streaming as frequently. Get over it, you fucking retards with crippling autism.

I'm not even a jailbird and I know how many projects she's been involved in. You have to genuinely not watch any streams to think otherwise. Oh wait...the melty-having retards DON'T watch streams. Duh!

Damn the concert really has summoned the vilest piss in terms of shitposters and antis hasn't it?
My favorite the obvious anti idol/JP /pol/fag pretending to belong here.

hololive makes the talents do a fuckload of work off-stream and then forbids them from talking about what exactly they're doing. you're getting mad at this bitch but she's most likely working all day then just going home and going to sleep. she can't tell you what she's doing because the company doesn't allow it. so she says nothing. it's been that way since hololive went corporate and it will never change. either get used to it or watch indies. or if you want to be mad at someone, give feedback to the company and tell them to lay off so your girl can stream.

>>103787911
she's capable of being a professional musician, probably more so than any other holoen girl, but that would be a choice, the whole idol scene in japan that chuubas branched off of isn't producing or expecting the quality she's capable of, she has to either lower her personal standards and expectations to that level, or depart from the idol/gamergirl streaming company

>>103787975
>I'm not even a jailbird
Yeah we can tell retard

>>103787917
>Raden streams frequently so of course her fans are happy,
Raden streams 180 hours this year. Nerissa streams 230 hours this year.

>>103787979
yeah /vt/ is 100% an e-celeb drama thread now since actual fans moved to the tower

>>103787940
Do you know what the term average means? Each talent added up and divided by the number of talents, there's been less stream time per talent on average than 2024. Multiple of the 'big hitters' have less stream time for the year as well, and the only reason it looks a little better is because ERB replaced Ame for stream time and Gura and Mumei don't exist anymore.

>103787939
I am not even a jailbird but i know she is working hard behind the scene. appearing on multiple 3d live and going on a world tour and keeping up with studio work while being away from your family will create a heavy toll on anyone, Especially on someone like rissa who is pure american to her heart. IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THIS SIMPLE THING. Just commit sepukku or cut your balls off and become a sister

>>103787986
Why can all the other talk about it but not her?

>>103787939
nta and this is basically unrelated, but Ina did actually lie her ass off towards Takos once
>claims she's sick
>actually visits Japan with her family as (secret) vacation
>meanwhile total radio silence
>JP holo accidentally leaks that she's in Japan
>Ina then claims she was ghosting because she "didn't bring her phone with her" (LMAO)
Kind of a nothingburger but man that was some cringy shit of her to do

>>103787911
The investors definitely know about that though

>>103787795
It's fine not to stream much, but if you used to stream regularly and suddenly start not streaming much, you will need to endure a demographic change in your audience (doomposting is part of this) where your dedicated old fans who previously watched you lots move on and you stay with only some of them but mostly with viewers who treat you like a secondary oshi

>>103785828 (OP)
Should have just shadow banned and moved on. Engaging never works in your favor.

>>103787990
fucking skinwalker plague on earth i spit on your existence and your entire blood line

>>103787822
/thread, unironically

All the nerissa defenders are only focusing on the streaming aspect but not a single person can address the communication issue, nerissa spends half her life on twitter and yet can't send out an occasional tweet? She doesn't even have cheering space open on youtube like the other EN do

>>103788019
the Hort Era

>>103787990
>Has no comeback or defense
Wow, shocking. Like I said, you don't watch streams

>>103787986
This would be a thing if she actually released anything other than one 3D live in her entire career and an original song in the past year. Using the excuse of behind the scenes stuff only gets you so far if they never fucking release

>>103787822
>>103787822
>FWMC seem to have the time to tweet about the concert
>Not part of world tour
>2 fucking people
KUDOS

>>103787994
I said frequently, learn english, you can be infrequent with loads of stream hours

>>103787806
Yes. Yes we are.

JAILBIRDS HAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>103788054
doesnt matter.
Anon showed you numbers yet you are still crying like a fucking baby

>>103788053
Not to mention that a majority of their tweets are merch-focused.

>>103788038
She doesn't have the time

>>103787975
nice try tourist

>>103787940
>biboo has her own 3D live in september
Um...no, she doesnt. She just has some project we don't yet

>>103788038
>WAAAAA Nerissa talk to me WAAAAA please rissa respond to my tweets WAAAA like my tweets too rissa waaaaaa

Myron please go to phaseconnect they will give you all the attention

>>103787940
People trolled about moving to japan being a "bad thing" but the truth is, its much better for a hololive member to be there
Having to fly to japan multiple times a year, staying in different hotels, having temp setups, not being able to stream properly etc WILL cause burnout and is 10 times worse than living near the studio

>>103788094
Nta but I'll save this post
Its 100% a 3D live from what she said

>>103788095
kill yourself phasebeggar

>>103788094
Kek they will use holo v holo to push their agenda
>>103786736 /ope/ was a anti breeding ground for past few months and now the AFO is going to happen and the ndf has broken the containment

>>103788105
Wawa is a champ. She has her moments of menhera, but she gives it her all.
Doesn't change the fact that literally every talent seems more stressed and has been taking on more shill shit.

>>103788095
That's what 90% of the screeching about any given vtuber boils down to on this board.

>>103788118
She literally said she wouldn't be doing a 3D Live for a long time. Watch more streams

>>103788054
Raden streamed 112 times this year, Nerissa streamed 101 times this year. I don't see how you can argue Raden streams frequently

>>103788123
Keep myron in phase please holo dont want that nigger

>>103788152
you're the one making shit up though

>>103785828 (OP)
God I hate Nerissa so much. She’s such an entitled. I went in a long time ago expecting greatness from her because she was in it for the singing. Instead I got fucking mid work, no streams, no good gaming, and absolutely fuck all communication. I’ve long since switched and I got banned for pointing these things out earlier from groups. Now I assume Nerrisa herself saw my comments and had me banned. Such a thin skinned bitch who’s nowhere near as talented enough to be so absent, unlike Gura who still gets her fans to guzzle any content. Plus her singing is overshadowed by superior EN talent so she doesn’t try as hard. And she’s such shit gamer so there’s nothing there. She should graduate, stupid fucking whore, she’s only good for assisting at this point. If she was JP side she’d be slutted out to investors constantly. Jailbirds are maschists.

>>103786503
For me no, because i see the results and i see her helping the other girls, which i follow too.

>>103786905
You simply don't understand the point of Hololive. They're not just streamers, they have other things to do. Complaining is kinda useless.

>>103787974
Nerissa is not Gura.
She already showed something she worked on, for example Genesis.

>>103788105
depends on the talent, bijou is the exception not the rule
Fuwamoco became much worse after moving to japan when it comes to cancelling streams and stream time

Well soon Nerissa will have the fan base she always wanted. A bunch of twitter alphabetfags who don't watch her.

>>103788168
You're brown.

>>103785828 (OP)
This is fairly valid criticism though? It’s tactless to write it where she can see it, but it just seems like people frustrated that she’s not promoting her own shit and relying on fans to hype it

>>103788168
>WAAAA rissa i expected lot from you but i was hate watching you all this time and i want you to see me rissa Waaa please respond to my tweet too rissa waaaaa rissa pleas rissa waaaaa i will keep typing long paragraphs on 4chan and make melties before concert waaaaaa

>I'm really busy behind the scenes

Don't care. Press go live. Stream for AN HOUR 2-3 times a week, it's not hard, it's not exhausting, it takes no prep work, it won't interfere with your super important project or whatever the fuck. 1 hour, just chat and read some comments, or play some slop fotm game. It's not fucking hard. Fucking absurd how lazy these cunts are.

>>103788179
That's a win-win, surely? What's there to be upset about? Are you a jilted lover or something

>>103788193
Why are you seething over her then? Fuck off go and enjoy your sloptuber box?

>>103788158
I'm not him I don't watch lazy white whores lmao

Been a jailbird is the worst

Thank god this thread will already be on auto-sage, way too many whiny bitches and antis complaining, go play some videogames or something it's not that hard

>>103788193
>it's not hard, it's not exhausting
it literally is for her

>>103788193
For someone who works with her voice, streaming is hard.

>>103788193
They will move the goalpost anyway.
>OMG WHY IS SHE SO STREAMING SO LITTLE

>>103788165
Retard, she literally said it this year. She said she doesn't feel confident enough in her singing yet to do a 3D Live and it'll be a while before she does one. Do you not watch enough streams or just headcanon what you want to happen?

>>103787974
We did actually see that huge project. It was that orisong about how her fans are mean and pieces of shit for telling her to do some work and have transparency.

>>103788187
>This is fairly valid criticism though?
Yes

>>103788175
We unironically need more talents in EN. We have 14, JP has 42 currently active. If a chunk need to disappear for some recording in groups or just scheduled around the same time, you have a bunch of other options of people to watch in JP, meanwhile we're left with like 5-10 IF they're planning on streaming at all for the x amount of days or weeks the others are working on projects. You fags keep acting like the branches are the same.

>>103788232
>Talking is hard
Cope harder

>>103788178
>became much worse
>still beat out more than half of EN in stream time
?

Not reading 300 posts did anyone actually address the fact that no amount of business in the world prevents any holo from tweeting which takes 3 seconds?

Vtubing created so many monsters in da west. It might be Japan's worst cultural export, and I say this as a fan of them myself

>>103788050
a significant amount of stuff they work on gets cancelled before release. the en branch seems particularly vulnerable to that due to perms being more complicated and having to include an additional layer of management to handle translations between the main branch. i would also speculate that a good amount of the stuff they're working on is unreleased holoearth content.

>>103788275
did you not get the likes too? or is this your 100th post?

>>103788275
phone hort, work hort

>>103786344
kek what a gotten to bitch

>>103788275
She's busier than everyone else combined

>>103788275
No, because every fag in this thread either vehemetly hates her or is a supersimping fag

>>103788275
many times, yes
bitch is lazy

>>103788181
Better than being a nigger Jailcuck
>>103788192
Expecting the bare minimum is normal faggot, you’re as bad as the cucklings. We’re here for Idol-esque Vtubers who won’t cry and complain about hard work. Who’ll care for fans enough to be communicative and active. Who won’t bitch and cry about antis. She is incapable of doing any of that. Nerissa is shit and always will be. She needs to graduate and become some chads cumdumpster and pop out babies

The ones that are defending nerissa should be ashamed

>>103785896
Faggots said the shame shit about
>Ami
>Gura
>Ayami
And then immediately got made fun of right up till their oshi either started streaming again irregularly or graduated

>>103785828 (OP)
Nerissa, you can't be listening to these retards.
If you're not working on projects you want to work on, you'll burn out and grow resentful. They don't know that because they are stupid. It cannot be helped.
If they're here for you, then you owe to them to realize your own creative vision. You know what you're doing, stick to the plan and ffs stop fucking with the mystique by responding to gay shit like this.
Also get off of 4chan you dumb bitch

>>103788156
If person A streams 100 times the first 100 days and then stops streaming while person B streams 100 times evenly spaced out throughout the year then person B streams more frequently than person A, you can then change person A to a Gura like schedule where she streams in clumps throughout the year if you want another example of infrequent streaming

>>103786124
I hope Mori gives her a nice talk after AFO, since she's been in this exact position before. She's putting too much stock in shitters instead of feeling the love from the people who really do treasure her.

Repeat after me nerissa have to graduate

>>103788275
Nerissa tweets though. "Jailbirds" complain that she spends way too much time on twitter

>>103788245
She just said not on her birthday, she didn't imply she wouldn't do one this year, are you ESL?
anyway we'll know in a week

>>103788329
The only difference is that Ame and Gura had a really huge fanbase to start with so the triclling effect of people leaving never really hit them and Ayame is in JP which seems almost immune to bleeding from lack of communication because of how many people are in the Holobox. Nerissa on the other hand can't afford to lose fans

>>103788334
John Gato is the only good post in this thread

>>103788354
You realize this started because she hadn't tweeted anything about the world tour or the concert while all the other girls were tweeting up a storm or even appearing in a stream, right? She finally tweeted on single thing about the world tour flower stand after all this happened.

>>103788334
She’s not working on much of anything more than any other EN, she’s the one choosing to not communicate, to not post, to not be in touch. Stupid bitch can’t even do any of that right. But not even she is dumb enough to come here.

>>103788406
She's busy, get over it

>>103788336
>while person B streams 100 times evenly spaced out throughout the year
Except raden didn't do that. She only start streaming frequently recently. She streamed very little from January to April

nerissa this bitch

>>103788317
You retard who dont even spend a single penny on her dont deserve any shit and if you do and are still seething about it please go and find someone else. Preferably not holo because retards like you dont deserve the walled garden experience

>>103788406
maybe she's bummed out about all the scalpers

>>103788427
She is though, her non-stream output is bigger than Mori's and kiara's this year

>>103788406
I'm sure it started way before that. Months ago even

>>103788334
As usual pebbles are based. The best fans in en

>>103788406
She doesn't have to do that because she has already talked about it and she's there for the concert now.
This entire thread is predicated on the absurd notion that she doesn't do enough. Which is abitrary and undefined so it can be complaines about without actually coming to anything, this thread is stupid, you are stupid. I am stupid for replying to you. Mods are stupid for not banning you all over this shit.

>>103788427
we've caught her here before. real /hlgg/ heads know.
also fuck off faggot its not like you give a shit anyway.

>>103788334
>then you owe to them to realize your own creative vision. You know what you're doing
She has no creative vision. She hires out for that. And she absolutely doesn't know what she's doing.
It's why her hire is so curious. She legitimately sucks at creating content. Did they see a 10mil cover and the fact that she's nice and then just handwave everything else away? It doesn't make sense.

>>103788275
she has to use an active part of her brain to tweet, and 100% of that is consumed in her rigorous behind the scenes work that consists of an hour of dance practice plus some 15 minute zoom calls with random japanese people. Please undahstando.

>>103788229
Hard for rissa tho

>>103788427
>Stupid bitch

is it normal to call you oshi bitch or am i the one tripping about this nigger being a larper

you will regret your words and deeds

>>103788259
When all the EN is missing i still have ID to watch anyway, since they speak english.

>>103788493
Biboo is cool. The rest of that gen is utter trash

>>103788507
kys pebblecuck

>>103785828 (OP)
Holo doesn't need lazy people. This is why Gura was kicked out

>>103788449
>bigger than shit and slop
>look guys she’s working hard
I AM LAFFIN

>>103788334
fucking tourist

>>103788493
Dont worry anon. Advent wont let rissa pay heed to nigger words /here/ especially larpers since its evident from gunrun tweets that holo anti's gets paid to talk shit about talents here

>>103788477
she put out an EP in her first year, went all out on her 3D live with a storyline/fight scenes. genuinely cookin up creative works in the studio you gay lil crusty nigga, evaporate

>>103786081
she was ridiculously critical of herself in her gaming streams when i watched her a long time ago, it got really hard to watch. i can even sympathize with that, i know how it feels to feel like you're letting people down when you're supposed to be putting on a show. it's sad to see that she didn't grow out of that, to grow thicker skin, and to find her own streaming style that isn't so influenced by negativity.

>>103788428
Didn't stop anyone else

>>103788175
Nigga I don't give a shit about the corpo, I'm here to watch my oshi and be entertained by her

>>103788493
Based. Advent won. Hololive won.

>>103788523
you fell for the brazilian tranny bait congrats

>>103788449
No, her non stream output is not more than Mori. Mori managed to more than double her stream hours as well.

>>103788260
Underestimate the effort and the work someone else is doing is retarded.

>>103788483
Kek

>>103788334
>Also get off of 4chan you dumb bitch
If this isn't part of Cover's training at this point, it really should be. Very little said on this site is said in good faith, especially on the youngest board that's full of the newest posters, people who came to this website specifically to be shitty to each other behind the veil of anonymity.

>WHERE'S THE SCHEDULE, IM GOING INSANE *liquid diarrheas*
>Why is there no cheering room IM GONNA FUCKING HAVE A MELTY
>Why isn't she updating us constantly about AFO??? I can't get hype for AFO if she doesn't talk about it...*hangs self*
>Why did she do a 3D Live?? Why is she in other 3D lives?? Like, I don't get it?? Who's this for??
>Rissa please stream...we need access to you through chat messages so we can insult your gameplay...
>I just need to know where she is and what she's doing ALL THE TIME FUUUUCK
This is legit one of the worst threads I've seen here in a while. I hope everyone in here bashing Rissa gets leprosy

>>103788536
Cope and seethe tranny
>>103788543
She lets any criticism take hold of her personal well being. Honestly she’s probably super easily manipulated by a significant other. A little carrot and stick would have her like putty in your hands.

>>103788547
>I'm here to watch my oshi and be entertained by her
So wait for her and shut the fuck up. She's doing stuff, be patient then.

>>103788537
>>103788537
>went all out on her 3D live with a storyline/fight scenes.
Faggot, she wasn't the one who did the script and the fight scenes, she just outlined the general picture in a couple of words and that's it, watch the streams

This board sucks!

>>103788544
Different people approach things differently, just like how you enjoy getting raped by a dog's penis every night.

>>103788507
You mean biboo is utter trash?

>>103788592
stop being intentionally obtuse

>>103788579
Questioning the existence of effort and hard work because there is nothing to show for it is very reasonable thing to do.

>>103788589
You’re actually the new one you double nigger. It’s based to be able to call out faggots like you with ease. Been like that since the early days of moot

>>103788275
Literally all people on this board become schizos over talents who do the exact tweeting you claim to want from her. They instantly believe it's all skinwalked manager posting. Of course Holos could load up the Twitter with preplanned tweets and retweets evenly spaced out but you'd bitch at them if they did.

>>103788629
Women expect you to read their minds.

>>103788619
Some places are fine. Small amounts of chatter when streams are happening, a little bit of discussion about a tweet when they happen, etc. Any fast thread is 2-3 fags posting the same shit they do every day, non-stop. Doezn't matter if it's positive or negative stuff, they're retarded fags nonetheless.

>>103788614
>Fucking retard has no idea what it means to be a creative director and producer
ogey

>>103788602
wait did i hit bullseye? Lol

>>103788625
Music doesn't matter beyond personal passion. Eat shit #fag

>>103788625
>>103788562

>>103788259
Nobody just likes all the JP's, the JP's are much more EN-sized when you realize they fall into certain cliques and the crossover is mainly within those groups. No Dev_is fan is a HoloJP fan. If you like Roboco, you're not watching Lamy.

>>103788686
>shitposts about other advent members
>lost
>cries
kys pebblecuck

>>103785828 (OP)
why is everyone purposefully misconstruing what's said here? nobody is saying she isn't working, just that she could communicate better.

>>103788535
proof next thread?

>>103788703
Because if they were to address the actual argument instead of attacking a strawman, they'd have to come up with a proper rebuttal (which doesn't exist)

>>103788664
What does Rissa have to do with this?

>>103788629
>nothing to show
See? This is why you're retarded.
You intentionally forget or not consider the Audiobook with Kroni, being a guest in 3 3D live, being the Vocal Director of Raora's 3D live, working with Mori for a song and collab Radio Holomelo, collabing with La+, the World Tour Synchronize, working with her gen-mates for 5 og songs and a 3D live coming soon and then the NYC concert.

I guarantee you none of the people saying she shouldn't have to communicate with her fans have a single piece of her merch or are even membered to her.

>>103788703
Because communication is a crucial part of her job, which she is neglecting.

>>103788700
>>103788562

>>103788592
AUUUUGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>103788737
Post your merch and membership coward

>>103788773
>>103788737 dont these retards were doing the same yesterday in numbers

>>103788737
>i spent money on her so i'm entitled
This is the capiitalistcuck mindset.. Everything you want to reduce to money and value by it.

>>103788703
It's just another gay bid for control. It starts with
>why don't you communicate?
and ends with
>actually you can't play harry potter rpg or talk about personal topics im sensitive about
don't feed the freaks

>>103788727
Adding in that people who are genuinely annoyed at less streams from Nerissa (and others), so they co-opt it to push more.

>>103788737
This

>>103788784
Well you just proved his point anon. She dont belong to you keep seething and malding

>>103788019
Don't let outfitschizo see this, he believes she was stealth suspended for hating her fanbase. Although it is weird you think she was ghosting fans only at this time, we know she was ghosting Cover as well because she was one of the only people in their end-of-year HoloGra who didn't have any voice line at all even though she was in it. Gura was very infamous for doing that as well, people act like she only hated her fans but she hated other Holomems and Cover just as much.

>>103788749
did you write her contract?

>>103788784
Poorfag detected

>>103786960
Retard

>>103788773
Any time I do that when I'm making an arguement about the talents I like, niggers cry and throw a fit anyways. They hate when anyone has any criticisms about their favorites because they're whine simps

>>103788784
Yep, faggot, even Rissa doesn't give hearies to greyniggers in her comments on youtube. To get interaction you have to pay.

>>103788786
THIS

>>103786054
I watched the balatro stream, yeah chat was negative but she being so dumb a couple of times I thought she was doing it on purpose.

>>103788861
She stopped giving hearties to members a long time ago

Stop crying, this is today's hololive, the streaming era is over. Shut up and move on if you don't like it, and let the people who do enjoy its plastic and artificial content.

Man, the people this obsessed about Rissa streaming/communicating....do you not have any other hobbies? Actual legit question, because I don't understand having this big of a meltdown over someone not making videos or live streaming. Maybe the issue is (you) not having any interests, friends, hobbies, etc

>>103788811
Yes.

>>103787815
Yes, all her subs are dead subs, she still has always gotten them faster than Biboo and Shiori. The Advent subs order has been established for years and no amount of extra streaming or shilling from the less popular members like Biboo has ever affected that.

>>103788902
Oh my mistake then, carry on.

>>103788890
Last time for Clannad watchalong last week

>>103788897
HoloEN never had a streaming era you fucking retard.

>>103788374
Exactly she may actually shape the fuck up and re-evaluate her priorities which as a streamer should always be streaming.

>>103788897
>this is today's hololive, the streaming era is over.
No, you just picked an oshi that doesn't stream. I'm a pebble so I'm swimming in streams

>>103788861
>To get interaction you have to pay.
If you want interactions maybe, i don't need that.

>>103788922
2020/2021 kinda, when they had nothing else to do.

>>103788922
whatever you say advent baby

Some holos are more dedicated to streaming, others more dedicated to music and offstream activities. If you are not happy about it, watch someone else

>>103788903
>Yes, all her subs are dead subs,
Yes, her last stream, 800~ people before Shiori raid.

>>103787990
>we

>>103788946
She was never a streamer and always had more fans than the streamer in her gen. You picked the wrong Holo to make shit up about.

>>103788428
Wooo weee so busy a tweet that literally takes 20 seconds to send is so much extra work

>>103788806
>"She dont belong to you keep seething and malding"
Good, that's not my goal with her. I just want to listen to her and see what she does.

>>103788946
>which as a streamer should always be streamin
Suisei doesn't stream

Advent really needs to beat some streaming education into Nerissa. Stop being one guy'd, get some confidence, start streaming doing stuff you like because the fans are there for you.

Most importantly, communication. Let fans know what you are up to, even if it's as silly as "shiori and biboo bought matching wallets".

>>103788968
I don't think she has more fans than Biboo

>>103785828 (OP)
This is what happens when you work for corpos that want these girls to be two things at the same time. Cancerous culture that should stay in JP at best.
THIS is why they left and more will soon follow the moment their contracts allow to do so.

>>103788949
If that's what you call a streaming era, then you're still in the streaming era. You get more streams now.

>>103788974
myron unironically im telling you please fucking find some 2view instead you are a fucking retard

>>103788968
>Gets a job that is 90% live streaming
>She was never the thing she was supposed to be doing
Fucking autism is a hell of a drug

>>103788958
This.
/thread

>>103788997
least obvious falseflagger

>>103788991
SHE DOESN'T HAVE TIME

>>103788976
And she's garbage too.

>>103788997
Those 3 left for different reason:
2 of them are lazy-ass fucks, and one of them is too worried and busy to get pregnant instead of streaming
The other one is just sick and cannot work with Holo because of it.

>>103789032
She is the most successful holomem. Continue seething faggot-kun

>>103786960
AI is souless and Wil never be consider a art faggot

>>103788972
If it's so insignificant, why throw a fit over it? It's up to her what she does with her brand.
Come on now, we all know what it's really about.
>>103788786

>>103789054
Justin Bieber is successful too. He's still garbage.

>>103787431
Honestly I blame Nerissa for how bad jailbirds are, she really should have stomped it out.

>>103789040
>Fauna didn't go to Breaking Dimensions
>Saplings defended her saying she was busy with her cat
>The real reason is she wanted to get dicked by Mr Nightmare every night
Grim...

>>103789060
cope harder, AI is the future and none of meaningless word will change this.

Oh wait, this is just one big falseflag thread from a holo-anti. Time to stop replying and go catch up on some VODs

>>103788634
>You’re actually the new one you double nigger.
Well, yeah. I got here in 2006. I've always been new.
It wasn't the express motivation most of the users here had for being here until the 2010s. Annoying fags took the internet hate machine thing and ran with it.

>>103789082
yes, someone was breaking her dimension

>>103788968
>Her merch sales matter!
>Money tells you if the fans like what you're doing
So tell me, why did she fail to sell out her limited while no other EN has yet to? Tell me why her SC numbers are down?

I hope after AFO she does one single stream and yell at the retarded jailchicks that she is not a streamer and dont expect streams from her .

>>103789003
I bet if you oooked at the average streaming time of Myth during that time period, it would beat out the average streaming time of talents today.

>>103789190
Irys did
CC did
Matter of fact nerissa merch sold out in last second

>>103789190
NTA, neglecting your customers results in no sales. Suprising isn't it?

>>103789077
are you from 2011

>>103789220
its the opposite
IRyS sold out at the last second, Nerissa's didn't

>>103789010
The job has never even been 50% live streaming.

>>103789234
That's what I mean though. That fag acts as if the paying customers aren't the ones complaining.

>>103789220
Nerissas merch did not sell out

>>103789010
>Gets a job that is 90% live streaming
Not in hololive. Suisei streams even less than her

>>103789248
Even funnier that he tried to use CC, who 100% slowed down on streaming a ton and a bunch of fans were also complaining.

Do we, at least, agree that she should comunicate better with the fans?

>>103788861
Who the fuck said you need to pay to enjoy her, faggot? If you blew cash on collabs while her content didn’t grow, that’s on you. Acting all insecure? No refunds, nigga.

>>103789294
I think she should communicate even less to keep em yearning

>>103787431
Ok phasecuck, get back to us when some nutjob puts Nerissa on his gun and tries to shoot up a place...oh wait

>>103789294
she should graduate and blame jailbirds for it

>>103789294
I agree that you're cripplingly autistic and need more hobbies, yes

>>103785828 (OP)
Myron is /here/

>>103789294
My sincere and honest opinion is that people who demand daily communication from a celebrity are not people that vtubers should enable, no matter how lucrative it might occasionally be.

>>103789294
Imagine she graduates and says i was not able to live upto what jailbirds wanted from me and not even "disagreement from management" is the reason will you be happy then jailchicks? and you know for a fact once she graduates there will be no more streams and tweets from her for you

>>103789373
Myron is super /here/. He or one of his faggot friends got that screenshot of his LinkedIn page deleted tout de suite.

>>103789389
This

>>103789389
Retard, she literally hasn't said a word about the upcoming concert this entire week.

>>103789373
>"bad decision making"
>The "bad decision" making is just not communicating or streaming as much for insufferable faggots like this
Can you even blame her?

>>103788669
>cope and seethe tranny
>uh oh melty
tried and true gift card jeet phrases once the flow chart terminates

>>103789465
If you expect weekly communication, even about a major event, you shouldn't be watching vtubers.

>>103789467
No, and certainly not after reading this thread.

>>103789389
But the entire job is about money and fame. They want to be fawned over, they want simps to throw cash at them. Some are just more willing to play into those retards.

>>103789389
No one wants her to post daily, but at least hype up the concert? let us know she's alive?

>>103789111
>not coming in ‘07
>not dropping in in /a/ during prime Code Geass
Never gonna make it

>>103789465
See? They're strange and aggressive ghouls

>>103789294
/ope/ told Nerissa for months to stop being on twitter 24/7, they got their wish

>>103789496
>not dropping in in /a/ during prime Code Geass
I did watch it while it was airing but wasn't posting it /a/ about it; this is true. I did watch Gurren Lagann with /a/, though.

Shiori can make a post about Silksong, why can't Nerissa make a post about a game she is interested in? or a movie, a book.

>>103789494
>let us know she's alive
>"Ube ice cream", "going for a jog"
>NO YOU HAVE TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE UPCOMING CONCERT TO HYPE IT UP

>>103789529
Perhaps she is afraid of you niggas for some reason

>>103789389
then she should become a real celebrity instead of a virtual idol

why the fuck is it always indians????
guarantee you both of them are jeets that barely pay anything
fuck these "fans".

>>103789552
That Myron guy is Dutch.

>>103789373
Myron stop breaking containment you humongous faggot. Get a life

>>103789563
living in another country doesn't suddenly make you not a jeet.

>>103789574
He might be one spiritually, but he seems to be Dutch Dutch. >>103787608

>>103789294
>backpedalling after getting btfo'd hard
Lmao just kill yourself already or pick better arguments next time.

>>103789476
why are you seething i just called out your bluff ? Atleast call me some name nigger wtf is this low effort bullcrap

oh he is a shipfag

>>103789552
>indian
>dude is a dutch
>calls him jeet

go to /pol/ try calling him fat or something

>>103789621
>complains about Bloodraven
>is a ShiorRavenfag

>>103789644
>>103789609
>saaaaaar i am not indian i am dutch I AM DUTCH YOU BLOODY BITCH!!!
he looks like a fat jeet from his avatar. very doubtful he's dutch given his behavior.
she streamed 5 days ago. what the fuck is even anyone's problem.
these people should be removed from everything and stop ruining it for anyone else.

>>103789701
>very doubtful he's dutch given his behavior.
have you met the dutch?

>>103789413
We already saw how those people react when they realize they pushed things too far
They just awkwardly make a single apology and then try to forget they ever did anything

>>103789373
He's as insufferable as you'd imagine

>>103789720
They seem to have plans

>>103789720
I am Dutch our behavior is akin to Jews. This isn't jewish or dutch behavior. This is some overly attached jeet which is common behavior as they are extremely desperate for attention and women and get upset when you don't respond to them immediately.

>>103789620
I was agreeing with you, anon. I'm not the guy who told you to cope and seethe lol sorry I should have made that more clear.

>>103789765
You are the most rude people in europe

>>103786244
>But instead of listening to the criticism and improving she just whines about it being demotivating
the true girlfriend experience...

>>103789765
I'm imagining a Dutch guy saying this and laughing. Sorry.

>>103789738
>I am a young and critical thinker with a diverse and complex background, a legal scholar that is not afraid of to speak his mind, eager to study the boundaries of legality and legitimacy and a philosophist that questions and challenges the status quo.

>"not afraid of to speak his mind"
>improper comma usage
>inappropriate and unprofessional ampersand
>"philosophist"
Why are guys like this always fucking stupid? Terrible English.

>>103789765
not gonna lie that dude profile is well open and he seems to be dutch by heritage as well. Secondly you are right fucking niggers like him will cause a gura 2.0

>>103789738
Just terrible

>>103789886
You mean cause her to finally rip the bandaid off and just graduate so she redebut as a successful indie who streams regularly again? God, I hope so.

>>103789621
Shipfags are Nerissa's biggest simps and yesmen, though. If she pushed a shipfag to this point you know it's bad.

>>103785828 (OP)
Standing in solidarity with Nerissa by gooning to her rn

>>103789486
Frequent communication is part of what makes vtubers unique. The fuck are you talking about