Thread 103909033

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If by July 12, 2026, Saba is still treating Nimi like Kronii treated her, then I will stop being a napling. I trust Saba's judgement.

:3

>>103909058
Based

>>103909006
It's curious how they go down at the same time, all of them.

Will Dooby repost this drawing? Or is her hate for Nimi stronger than he appreciation for her outfit designer making her art??

>cover tracks CCV and brags about bottled numbers
Yikes

>>103909058
her judgement to take the easy way out of any situation

Another day with zero holoEN streams I take it?

>>103909058
>I trust Saba's judgement.
why?

>>103909058
>2026
why wait that long

>>103909071
PVP baby!!!

https://youtu.be/oIaDWvKkKdk

>>103909146
How’s Vox doing these days, sister?

>>103909100
they couldn’t give them a nice piece of art for their concert

>>103909058
saba is following dooby's example

>>103909171
I don't believe Saba would betray Nimi for petty reasons.

The anti fears boobs

>>103909203
>the girl who only came back to stream all over advent's debuts and then fuck off for 3 months wouldn't do shit for petty reasons

>>103909180
To fully negate the possibility of false positives.

>>103909171
I would die for Saba if she asked me to, no hesitation

If Saba doesn't break 10k today it says a lot

>>103909033 (OP)
>raora talks to her chattini in underwear
mamma sex

>>103909058
I’ll be waiting here for you

>>103909237
why?

>>103909249
>12.07

>taylor swift is getting married
>TWICE are hags now
no….

>>103909262
Why not? I have nothing to live for, and if dying for her gave me some purpose then thats okay.

>>103909146
Mind you, third party surveys are in there
They try to get data as accurately as possible instead of saying "CCV GUD, PLS NO SELL SHARE WE PAY U GUD SAARS"

JUST REMOVE CCV ALREADY
IT'S USELESS

>>103909242
>still no HoloEN streams
>Hitman game buff
>potential slight buff due to anticipation if Saba will mention Nimi THIS TIME
Guaranteed 11k at the very least.

>>103909296
if only they were real sadge

>>103909186
there are already many pvp shooter games they can play anon

>>103909293
that doesn't tell me why her in particular.

>>103909318
you know, that's a stupid enough idea that youtube might actually do it

If sabe don't get 10k it's fucking over for EN chuubas

>>103909390
Go back to BrownVTM

>>103909406
???

>>103909145
That's one of few dedicated artists she has, so she probably will

To the anon in the last thread asking which other corpos are attracting talent away from Hololive: VSPO, HIMEHINA, Ui-mama, Patra
EN side has glitch goblins and v4

>>103909390
It's been over.

A win for Saba is a win for Hololive production.

>>103909242
My Decentralised Anarcho-capitalist Holo Indie community doesn't care about your botted JP corpo races

>>103909436
>VSPO
every woman wants to be Kamito and Reid's cockwarmer

>>103909367
man emotions arent logical I cant explain why her other than shes the one i would do it for, no one else, living or dead, besides her.

>>103909322
>>potential slight buff due to anticipation if Saba will mention Nimi THIS TIME
yeah I'm sure those 30 viewers will come in clutch

>>103909223
My bebe wife is cute <3

I'm thinking about cunny.

>>103909242
Mint reclined :/

>>103909436
The pxl girls are cute

>>103909390
Nimi couldnt do 10k with botted minecraft, the numbers are grim

>>103909430
thats why this is such a good litmus test for this whole situation, if she doesnt then we know the resentment is real.

>>103909292
>taylor swift is getting married
Yes, to me

>>103909505
you sound like a good person

>>103909360
Yea but have you consider gun pvp war IN MINECRAFT

>>103909505
BASED

ok, so far this is what i get with all the info given to us with a sprinkle of schizoism
>Mint is confirmed to be poaching others to Vshojo as Gunrun's agent because he promised her an idol unit
>Mint, thanks to kiara, gets into convos with fauna who doesn't want to go to japan to use the studio anymore
>Mint starts gaslighthing her about Vshojo and how they will be Hololive 2.0 but with a bigger cut
>Fauna salivates at the prospect
>ffw, ame graduates and redebuts as dooby
>by this time she had a lore video where you can see a big star with the colors blue, green, light brown, pink and red
>we ca deduce that the first three is about gura, fauna and mumei
>ffw
>Fauna graduates
>makes her graduation announcement sound so fucking bad tthat all the branches of Hololive have to come out and say they are not being abused
>at the graduation none of her genmates bats an eye except for bae
>before the graduation, not kronii said she's done with fake people
>mumei later graduates and then gura
>mumei left for medical reasons while gura left because of some bs she later backpedalled on later as saba.
>ffw
>Vshojo gets exposed as a communist scam and dissolves
>some guy from Vshojo who used to work at Hololive says he has the marital status of all the holos
>It seems that it got nimi because out of nowhere she told her audience she was getting married
>Dooby and Saba unpersoned her
>people think is because of the lore drop when the situation is much darker
>Nimi, being gura's oshi and gura being able to be manipulated easily gets convinced to leave Hololive to get into Vshojo
>Saba out of fucking nowhere followed the gunrun aka Vshojo's CEO way before they imploded
>Mint was way and I mean WAY too close to mint when they interacted for the first time making it all clear this wasn't the first time they hung out together
>Now remember that Mint, by her own admission, said that she was going around poaching talents
>Fauna's graduation was so out of the blue that it left people astonished
>It turns out she left for greener greens, got her ploy blown on her face and decided to do a lore drop when she found out another guy was gonna do it for her
>gura most likely felt betrayed because this is not the first time someone promises the world to her only to never deliver
>dooby being saba's best friend also unfollowed nimi for making her quit and not consider an affiliation like her

That's all i got so far

>>103909385
Would be funny. At this point I don't really care.

>>103909560
AMETORI BROS WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE

>>103909505
Good thoughts

Saba delayed her stream by 15 minutes

>>103909560
You mean, not only did she NOT stream over their 2 hour long concert, but she actually went and supported them in person??
Keklings…
Nimi could never

>>103909611
this mamaboo is too big

i’m thinking about kronii’s tits

>>103909604
>Mint was way and I mean WAY too close to Mint
lmao what

Sag hex

>>103909560
>gura and mumei dint go
they hate hololive...
>>103909656
stop Kiara

>>103909436
Ui and Patra aren't companies. Glitch and V4 are just minor leagues Holo can use for farm teams if they see anyone they like. VSPO might potentially be able to keep a FPS girl or two out of Holo, theoretically.

>>103909617
She forgot to post the stream on twitter

>>103909058
Basedbasedbasedbased

>>103909505
Remember the cunny archive OPs?

>>103909664
It's a typo, he meant Nimi was too close to Mint initially

>>103909311
Here's a link to their third party surveys. I'll let you be the judge if it's unbiased or not.
>>103909033 (OP)
https://vrabi.net/

>>103909664
This is the most important piece of information in my document.

>>103909692
>cunny archive
chink archive*

>>103909385
What would be lost? To normal, real humans, not this thread. The numbers haven't been real in a very long time and they get less real every month.

>>103909604
You list a lot of things as confirmed that are just speculation or just made up

>>103909731
God I want Noel’s mommy milk

>>103909743
It's not Chinese.

>>103909710
Did I stutter nigger I wrote what I meant don't speak for me

>>103909731
I'm surprised this woman is SINGLE. With a SEX body like that men would kill to breed her.

>>103909731
>>103909772
Noel should sell her breast milk, would cover allow that

>15 minute delay
>...she actually changed the timer instead of just saying to wait up in chat
Who is this?

So it’s pretty much confirmed that Ame and Mumei genuinely loved Hololive and that Fauna / Gura conversely were grifting whores right?

>>103909813
i don't think we needed you to post that someone is very close to themselves, dumbass.

>>103909845
I'm a Napling, if you're going to shitpost Fauna, shitpost Fauna. Don't drag Gura into it.

>>103909830
probably talking to someone

>>103909674
Got to nearly 4k waiting anyway so Twitter is pretty much useless.

>>103909868
Don't drag Fauna into my Nimi shitpost

>>103909876
>probably talking to someone
She's talking to Nimi yes! She's gonna mention her on stream believe it

>>103909743
I like chinks especially when they give me blowies

>>103909845
Saba isnt a grifting whore but its clear she didnt care about holo, she didnt for a looong time before she left

>>103909881
Except you fucking said Fauna >>103909845, are you braindead?

>>103909845
>Mumei
>didnt go to the concert
lmao

>>103909896
That wasn't me

>>103909876
Yes, me

>>103909909
Then why the fuck did you respond to me

>>103909436
Gigi getting into Holo shows that V4 is just treated as developmental territory, and GlitchStars is fundamentally opposite to Hololive the same way Phase is, no one who joined Glitch would have any chances of joining Holo anyway.

And don't get me started with Ui and Patra, which are Holos without badge.

>>103909886
dont use my post for your shitpost, go kill yourself under another anon

>>103909900
He’s right, Mumei wasn't in the concert

>>103909505
Keep doing that.

>>103909261
Best post in this thread. Loli ass is a gift from God.

>>103909845
Gura gets a pass because she’s the literal reason vtubing became popular in the Western world. And she’s cute.

But Nimi is a grifter yes.
>Waits until merch order payments have already been processed and can’t be refunded
>Waits until thousands of gifted subs have been bought
>Waits until you get assloads of free art and assets from fans
>Waits until Dooby and Saba associate themselves with you
>Surprise Lore Drop

>>103909845
So your idea of entertainment is to be a retard for the next 4 hours? Once again I implore the jannies to just nuke /#/ out of existence.

Rape the shondo

>>103909932
Go fuck yourself

>>103909984
suck my cock tranny

>>103910000
Suck it yourself

Saba delayed because Dooby went to her place after AFO btw, this stream is gonna be an off collab

>>103909908
whore

>>103909969
Don't forget she was (still is) lying her ass off about wanting to be an idol, and idolshit not being a reason for leaving.

>>103909928
I would love to see someone like Raki Kazuki join Holo just so IRyS could have a cute IRyStokohai to play around with.

>>103909033 (OP)
SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIF

>>103909959
I saw Blue Archive released a new loli. My Twitter feed got absolutely bombarded with her. Pic not related.

https://finance.logmi.jp/en/articles/382687
No one talked about this?

>>103909845
I don't think Gura is a "grifting whore". I just think she is kind of dumb and easily manipulated. I think Fauna/Mint took advantage of her when it comes to the Vshojo thing and unfortunately she bought into it.

>>103910071
dolphin porm, dont click on it

>>103910060
post the new loli

>>103910096
You're extremely dumb and easily manipulated.

>>103910108
I clicked on it because of you

>>103909058
Why so specific? I'll give her till the next nightreign stream. If Nimi isn't part of it, I'm dropping her and memory holing her for good.

>>103909033 (OP)
SEX

>>103910115
This stinks ass (compliment) looking girl. Reminds me when the green twin lolis released and a shitload of art came along with them.

>>103910196
>give her till the next nightreign stream
Why are you doing this when she specifically said it'd either be with chat or a new group of people

>>103909436
>VSPO, HIMEHINA
Literally just Brave Group. Anyone joining would have to be extremely stupid to trust their numbers
>GlitchStars
Unironically, sincerely, literally who? Had to google them
>V4Mirai
Also Brave. Join them if you're an idiot

>>103909242
>Already mogged Mint's peak in the waiting room

>>103910196
To fully avoid the possibility of false positives.

I think Biboo unironically wants to get raped, she does teasing so well and always talks about men trying to kidnap her it’s like she’s asking for it

>>103909242
She is but not by much. Maybe she'll do slightly better than Are You Smarter, when without the cull she should be 18k.

>Hitman
The Nimi mention WILL happen

>>103909033 (OP)
>Hayama Marin
>Yorumi Rena
Fucking ban them from numberfag sites please

>nimi mentioned already
I fucking knew it

Stream started. Total Nimi death soon

>>103910278
if she wanted it she would walk alone the streets of USA after midnight

>>103910265
Incoming 15k!

>>103910299
all natty

>>103910278
She's female, those fantasize about rape all the time.

why do you retards include Gigi in the ligger thing, she left a small corpo for Holo, she didn't join from being indie

>>103909845
Fauna was an amazing vtuber and a credit to her branch. Nimi is a grifting whore who needs to kill herself. Get it right. And keep Gura's name out of your mouth.

>>103910333
nijiseethe

>>103909532
anon pxl...

>>103910227
Right, and when it happens, I'll drop her.

>>103909058
I can't tell if this is real or the longest running shitpost of the year. Is there seriously no concrete evidence to counter the "Saba and Doobi are shutting Nimi out" narrative?

>>103909604
Assuming most of this isn't schizo babble (big if, let's be real), Mint is the biggest bitch to ever exist in EN vtubing.

>it's stressful to talk to Nimi so I cut her off
Jesus

>saba is afraid of women
kronii knew it all along

>>103910349
Same mindset
>Oh we loved her when she was small
2view

>>103910349
she was indie longer than she was smallcorpo
also is there really a difference?

That was weird

>>103910375
I will give her that much. During the Homo arc where 90% of EN was on hiatus or never streaming, it was basically Fauna, IRyS and Kiara holding the entire branch on their shoulders until Advent debuted.
The “we’re not friends” yab however made her look like a bitch and it was hard to watch her streams after that.

hags

>>103910384
They're still cute

>dooby bullies saba IRL
indielive confirmed for black company

>Today we're playing Hitman
>Why? I don't know
KWAAAAAAAAAAB

>koresn blue holo posted last night on the P site that she's having a Nightreign collab next week
It's happening

>>103910441
Saba is weird, don't read too much into it

>>103910460
love!

>>103910265
Has the cull let up? Mint seemed too high earlier for culled numbers.

>13 Dooby mentions
>1 Nimi mention

Well, this chat isn't helping. They don't mention Nimi at all.

>>103910299
The engine is stronger than ever

>>103910471
Cuckling status?

>>103910470
We got a doob mention before nimi in a hitman stream

>24% of Twitch's users were bots
Thank God all of Mousey's viewers were legitimate.

TOTAL NIMI DEATH

>>103910479
which holo uses pornhub?

>>103909496
Although more fleeting than a wet fart, rubberneckers can be a pretty explosive boost.

>>103910506
>>103910522
>>103910525
Same tranny

>Is playing Hitman
>Talks about fears
>Talks about being bald
>Not one mention of Nimi
Napling here, I am actually worried now.

>>103909880
The perfect woman

>>103910522
>40,000 “viewers”
>Chat as slow as a 2 view indie
All natty

>>103910465
i like blue tongues they seem sweet

>>103910233
>GlitchStars
I recall them snatching up some girls who left this or that corpo and the owner is a big fan of rosemi or whichever niji girl is graduating.

>>103910560
how long until they can use their models in game?

>>103910570
sounds like fishman from phase

>>103910499
I caught a bunch of annoying faggots bringing her up.

>>103910589
i think he's less groomer than fishman

>Hasn't mention Nimi once despite playing THE Nimi game
It's over.

>>103910499
I saw a bunch of nimi mentions after she mentioned being bald

The engine found a way to bypass the cull?

>>103910566
I'll never delete this just so I can make fun of Ironlungtomos
>Kronii playing indieslop for members vs Ironmouse playing new season of Fortnite with fleshies while drops were on

>>103910633
even mentioned keyboard vs. controller, and we know Nimi makes a big deal out of playing with controller

>>103910585
Are they planning to implement this?

https://files.catbox.moe/czs35f.mp4

what changed?

>she didin't mention biboo when she played DMC
its over bros

>>103910646
the cull wasn't ment to combat bots, it was mainly some regional age verification

>>103909928
How is Glitch the opposite of Holo they seem like a bog standard cut rate small corpo

>>103910666
Based Kronster

>>103910666
>But Holofag spam emo-ACK
HAHAHAHAHAHA

SABA PLEASE MENTION NIMI PLEASE

>>103910349
She was an indie once upon a time but too small for lig

>>103910692
Her not caring about Biboo is no surprise but Nimi being cut off is a slight against Nimi

>>103910696
Oh yeah, that's right

>hitman
i will now watch the fish girl

>>103910589
Fishman actually has the money to get who he wants Glitch dude runs it on a shoestring

saba is bald everywhere but her head

>>103910801
even...cunny?

Nimi is watching by the way

>>103910666
I hate grifterrat so FUCKING much dude

>>103910698
No one knows what your even talking about when you bring up Glitch, they are irrelevant.

>>103910646
Cull thing wasn't about bots its a ham fisted way to try and filter minors for the sake of advertisers and payment processors

Naplings...

I will watch Saba even if she's a lazy grifter because at least she didn't overlap AFO and there's nothing else to watch right now

saba is over 26 confirmed

>Talking about being bald
>Exactly one Nimi mention
I'm disappointed in chat.

>>103909436
>attracting talent away from Hololive
>HIMEHINA, Ui-mama, Patra
how does this make any sense?

>>103910299
Did youtube relieve the cull and they overbought? Seeing mint number make me think that youtube might do something.
Their grounded collab go like 30k -> 14k -> 56k

>>103910666
No matter how much cope and articles they get in PR outlets and mysterious quiet high-CCV crowds, Holos have thousands of people roaming the streets of new york and big twitch vtubers cannot, will not, ever come close to that feat, and wouldn't dare try.
This is the inexplicable difference in my book that makes the idea that they're comparable kind of a joke.
You can fake and manipulate internet numbers but these sorts of real-world events are a horrendously difficult and improbable feat. If you can pull that off at a scale similar to Holo, you earn my respect as a peer to hololive.

>>103910845
When will they get the hint?

>>103910867
It doesn't have to make sense in dacron the less sense it makes the more people will reply

>>103909604
I choose to believe this because it's entertaining

>>103910875
I'll get the hint when multiple people talk about Nimi and Saba ignores it. Right now the chat refuses to talk about Nimi and would rather talk about Dooby.

Yagoo please pick up, I have an idea

>>103910859
It seems like they understand Saba's vibe check pretty well if there's only one

>>103910692
biboo does the whole skibidi tiktok shit 24/7 and never turns it off and never makes her own jokes, it's not surprising to me at all that gura never cared for her in any way because of it
literally an annoying kid asking for her attention

>>103910916
Case in point

>>103910932
Circular logic

>>103910916
There were a bunch of Nimi mentions during the first time Saba brought up being bald. Not so much the next time, though.

Based. Given Elves have longevity, it's going to be eternal Lamy time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMWWM8lnzM

>>103910952
kill yourself brazilian schizo

>>103910870
Ironmouse sold out a venue of 2k by herself, retard

>>103910870
Niji, VShojo, Phase, VSPO, all companies have a fundamentally different idea of fame compared to Holo.

They believe that fame is based on public appereances, that the more they appear on the news or on magazines or on cameos, the better and bigger they are. Hololive believes that fame is based on a big fanbase, that the more people that buy, the better and bigger they are.

So while you see Kuzuha or Ironmouse or Fillian acting like white monkeys for e-celebs, Hololive works...with themselves, trying to grow up a homemade audience.

>>103910929
Your idea sucks ~ Yagoo

So Sunny (Vivi from Niji I think) is a KFP?

>>103910959
>>103910859
Check her first mention of being bald
I saw way more nimi then

>>103910983
With the level of botting she does I wouldn’t be surprised if Gunrun used some charity money to fill the seats.

>>103910983
>Fantastic Reality presented by IRIAM
Update
Ticket status
VIP: 150/150 sold
Gen. Ad.: 336/681(Previously 850) sold

>>103910682
yeah, slowly but yeah, they also will introduce tracking for the holos as test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgIimv87HO4

>>103910985
Yeah that's why Holo does eceleb tournaments and promotes marvel movies. It all the same thing bro

>>103910978
I wanna kidnap her.

>>103910983
proof? where is the IM crowd?

>Saba can't even get 2x Mint
Uh oh

>>103911064
What are the others' biggest successes, when you see a Nijisister or a ligger bragging about something, what is it?
>We appeared here
>We went here
>Look, we collabed with this guy

They believe fame comes from being another's pet

>>103911109
watching connor

>>103910929
Are all of them Nijis? I don't recognize the maid.
Wait, did Maria graduate?

>>103911153
same

>>103911002
Mogu (Victoria) is a niji and holo fan, don't know if she still cares about nijiEN after what happened to Doki, Pomu and herself.
Sunny (Kunai) was a big nijisister but she stopped after her bad experience

>>103911153
Based Rami

>>103910893
it's complete retarded nonsense even for this thread.
shiggy ui was a professional illustrator who went freelance, lucked out by becoming subaru's mama, befriended some of the biggest indies at the time as well other professional illustrators and streamed with them, leeched from tamaki, niji and holo during the 2020 covid boom, and later lucked out even more by having a meme song go viral. patra's the same with her lucking out and being able to keep and buy the IP from a dying irrelevant corpo. same with himehina doing their own thing for years while consistently releasing bangers. none of these things are something you can just replicate because you feel like it and no one's not going to apply to holo because of them.

>>103911128
She's going to eclipse her likes collected over 4 hours in a short while here.

>>103911163
Maria went the JP route

Nimi... What did you do?

>>103911047
Totally real numbers, just trust me bro.

>>103911212
>Lore drops you

>>103911214
>it's fake!
cope

>>103911128
Mint would be the most popular Holo EN if she was in holo, given she's already as popular as an average holo without the holobox.

Even the hugbox site is nooooticing (nimi split)

Saba is apparently still be a Windows 10 GOD, she will not comply

>>103911153
>>103911196
Lamy is underrated

>>103911251
>I can't believe it's happening AGAIN.
AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?!

>>103911163
Ignore the maid (Klara), I forgot she was a nijienhomos accesory and included her. Maria hasn't graduated but she's a good dancer I want her in holoEN

>>103911128
>Her signature game
>sub 6k
Grim

>>103911253
Don't livepost Saba here. Post on towa.

>>103911251
Oh no no NO!!
Keklings??

>>103911223
I don't understand why Saba would give a fuck.

>>103911244
I dunno why you want people to shit on her, just let her be a doki tier with some holo clout.

>>103911251
>tummy hort
oh, that's a popular falseflag in /here/

>>103911253
Fuck Windows 11

>>103911262
Not nimi fault btw

Total
Nimi
Death

>>103911251
If antis actually had brains they'd be using this to turn the normalfags against her. Saba cutting Nimi off because of the LLD would not play well with your average dumbass EN fan

>>103911285
Tet...

>>103911251
that's obviously a shitpost, but any napling denying that there's been a shift in dynamics is obviously coping

>>103911253
Dangerously based

>>103911306
Silly Anon, antis would only replicate this angle if it affected Holo!

>>103911330
Napling here, I am genuinely saddened by whatever is happening.

>>103911244
>Mintcuck: Mint is a HoloAdjacent
>Also Mintcuck: She's as popular as Holo whitout the Holobox
And you cry when we call her a leech

>>103911244
nice bait

>>103911251
i dont really care about all this saba/nimi thing since i dont really watch them but if she isn't mentioning her at all while playing hitman of all things... like man, thats reaaally weird even if it is Saba we're talking about

>>103911359
CAMERAMAN HATE

>>103911251
>Saba had trouble sleeping and felt sick
>the day that Doob unfollowed Nimi, she posted this

>>103911251
>>103911330
I wonder what really happened.

I will always ALWAYS trust Saba's instincts and silence always speaks volumes

Unironically starting to think the Nimischizos have a point. They weren't the schizos after all.

>>103911330
Nappling here, so sad can anyone play despacito?

How tf is saba not in 5 digits?

>>103911278
pomubeggars

>>103911253
Wish that was me, I updated to 11 like a week ago and it's so much worse than 10. I hate microsoft so much bros it's unreal

>>103911434
>Before: It's Pomu DORYAAAAAAAAAA
>After: S-She dodged a bullet
Kek a roo

>>103911359
Nerissa has a skirt not the pants anyways

We all know Nimi watch's saba's streams on her days off, too. I wonder how Nimi's feeling right now?

Listen to this grown woman thinking she's a tiger sing, it's amazing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-50Y21x-pUQ

>>103911408
Yeah people are forgetting Saba, the day after the LLD, streamed unexpectedly for like an hour, said she didnt sleep well, and was off in general. Something totally happened.

>>103911408
>Deciding what to doob
That's funny

>>103911253
She's right, W11 is complete crap

>>103911468
i wonder if it has something to do with the vshojo shit

I can't believe I'm gonna have to do the Fauna vs Kronii shit again. You retards always go on about cucks and stupid shit like that, but THIS is the reason why being a Fauna/Nimi fan is suffering.

>>103911144
Your vt anecdotes have nothing to do with actual reality

>>103911393
>And you cry when we call her a leech
Don't care what you call her holopags, I simply state facts.

>>103909146
>market share
Ok, talking about actual numbers unironically, if you removed the bots (engine), cover market share would be even bigger. I'm not kidding, and the reason is that Vstats only tracks YT, and the EN sphere on YT is only Hololive at the moment. If you take the streamshart market share data, it would still be higher because they combine HoloEN and JP together + Vshojo imploding.

>>103911408
They had a fight

>>103911463
>We all know Nimi watch's saba's streams on her days off, too.
Lol
Lmao

>>103911491
>i wonder if
It's obvious

>>103911251
He got deleted KWAB
Also nice fucking digits
>>103911292
Dude just posted his memberships with a post number. It's not a false flag, it's just the guy I always personally thought of as the prime menhera sapling. Always though that dude was annoyingly dramatic

From
>DORYAAAAA AVENGERS ASSEMBLE LOOK AT DOOBY'S ARCADE
to
>I hope she mentions Nimi one of these days....

>>103911420
The overlapping afo should seal the deal if the LLD didn't

>>103911251
Bro you posted that

Saba playing hitman is her silently supporting Nimi.

>>103911547
Her playing Hitman without mentioning Nimi once is her way of silently telling people the truth

>>103911536
Why does any of that matter? Why does the lore drop matter? Why does "overlapping" matter? Why does Saba care? There has to be more to the story. What did Nimi REALLY do?

>>103911547
Copeling... this isn't healthy...

>>103911536
She overlapped gigi's solo too which is CRAZY to me

>>103911524
Meidos over there really delete anything huh

>>103910405
All the evidence is on the rrats side. Literally the only point the other side has us Nimi momentarily mentioning Saba once when she brought up Dark Souls

>>103911128
The bots crushed now she has 3k

>>103911582
I can't believe there are Towa shills ITT
It's actual reddit

>>103911566
>What did Nimi REALLY do?
Talked about her personal life on main, that's really just it. Saba knows we don't want to hear about that shit.

>>103911582
>obvious falseflag shitpost immediately cross-posted to vt
>omg literally 1985

>>103911607
Her stream crashed and rebooted. A lot switched to Saba

>Wake up
>Saba playing Hitman
Soooooo whats the Nimi mention counter at?

>>103911611
I wish I could believe that, because then I'd be on Nimi's side and call Saba a stupid bitch.

What hurts me is that I think Nimi did something actually wrong.

>>103911524
oh, he got reported by other napling…

>>103911419
What the fuck did we even do?

>>103911496
>pags
You're as brown as a Flip, LATAMcuck
And no, 3K on her signature game is shit

>>103911546
Nope, I was curious and went to check. Did the same thing last Saba stream

>>103911611
>Talked about her personal life on main
It isn't her personal life. It's an integral part of Nimi's character and lore now.
We love hearing about the mundane facets of their lives, but in the context of their characters who are not the same as their real lives. That's why what Nimi did is different

>>103911496
baassed

>>103911583
>Nimi mentioning Saba
Ehh, Fauna mentioned Kronii sometimes in the past. I really need to understand how the fuck she is getting the cold shoulder again, and in both cases, it looks one-sided. Nimi never shut down these people like she did with Shondo in the past.

>>103911643
0

Is saba allowed to say skippa skippa?

>>103911187
>>103910867
Nothing stopping Ui and Patra from hiring a partner to become a duo act or HIMEHINA from hitting a third person.
If Ui said she wanted a partner in crime, everyone is going to apply. That's one less person for hololive.

>>103911611
I don’t think they get it bro, this is literally what Saba loves about Vtubing. Then right out the gate Nimi goes and acts like a basic indie shitter breaking the 4 wall

>F: UUUUUU girls I think I'm graduating I can do this anymore. It's so tiring going to Japan and I don't want to leave my cat all the time either
>M: If you go I want out too. Ame is already leaving and without you it won't be the same. My throat isn't helping to what I want to do here
>G: If both of you go I will leave too, I had a good run I think
>Lore drop happens
>Nobody knew a fucking thing about it
>Everyone feels betrayed
That's my schizo headcanon.
>But anon Nerissa congratulated her
Which is why I said it's schizo.

>>103911583
When you put it this way, her following NotKronii is just putting up an appearance. Something that, at the time, felt like a possibility, but one I didn't really hope wasn't true. Like she's putting the onus on the other person that it's them who were the problem

>>103911566
The simplest (and stupidest) explanation would be that they're mad because she didn't told them about the marriage first and they knew it from a third party (chat)

>>103911676
Even without that drop at the end, this graph is horrible.

>>103911629
That guy posted his membership what's your cope now

>>103911697
>>Everyone feels betrayed
Betrayed about what?

>>103911330
Not a napling but an IRyStocrat that really liked those three (and especially the Sabaduub collab) and I'm definitely unhappy with the continued developments.

>>103911674
Did she even really shut out Shondo or is shondo just a schizo?

>>103911491
>starts following Gunrun before graduating
>Vshojo burns
>unfollows Gunrun
she was fucking joining Vshojo I'm 200% sure of it

>>103911697
To be fair, Nerissa herself has said multiple times how badly she wants to get married, on stream, so of course Nerissa would be down with it.

>>103911731
I think she blocked her at some point.

>>103911715
How? That's over half Saba's numbers. For Mint that's insane.
When she was Pomu, Gura had 15-20x , her audience

>>103911676
Eated by a sharks

>>103910096
basically yeah the girls in general who left all were gaslit into thinking corpos are just le evil and everything would be sooo much better as an indie or in vshojo.

for someone like gura where due to her incredible lead on JPs in subs and dominance in EN ccv I can see how the pressure not only would get to her but would make people treat her really fucking different behind the scenes, maybe not always in good ways. ame/fauna I don't see really strong evidence of why they had to leave unless it was just greed or laziness.

considering moom still hasn't come back maybe she really-did just want to have a life change in general, my assumption is she thinks the going-to-japan part of being an EN was gonna be incompatible with holding an actual job somewhere because you can't just take like a 3 month hiatus every year for no explained reason.

>>103911736
>Ash again

>>103911736
Dodged a fucking bullet there

>>103911697
Well obviously Nerissa doesn't care or think it's wrong, what whatever she did

>>103911765
The shape of it is just ugly to look at.

>>103911736
the logic is there but my heart doesnt want to believe it.

Funnily enough, back when Indie Avengers shitposts were getting too annoying, I wanted nothing more than for it to stop in any way possible, any yab that could kill that minigroup, any reduction in numbers, anything.

Now that it happened, it feels empty and cold.

>>103911517
how so? im talking out of my ass based on a rrat/the shit mint did and her being somehow friendly with this girl

>>103911674
Kronii's issue was pretty obvious, she wanted to start something serious while the green woman thought that business yuri with yearly scissoring was enough

When exactly did Doob unfollow her?

>>103911725
>Says she's leaving because of some shit when in reality she just wanted to get dicked down in peace and get married

>>103911731
>>103911751
She thanked Shondo recently on the LLD post

>>103911765
Holy cope

>>103911788
>what whatever she did
you mean get engaged? Because that's all that changed in their dynamic

>saba and dooby got curious about what happened between kronii and nimi
>they finally ask kronii about it
>kronii spills the beans in detail to saba and dooby
>nimi gets dropped immediately by dooby and saba
must be damning whatever it is

>>103911697
How do you feel "betrayed" by that exactly, even theoretically? Like if you didn't know much about your friends private life and one day you found they were getting married would you be like "omg fuck you I hate you!"

I just can't believe Saba would unperson Nimi for a dumb reason like "She broke kayfabe" or "She didn't tell me she was getting married". They sounded way too close for that. Besides, I've always seen Nimi as the more cynical one of the two.

What the fuck happened.

>>103911736
are we talking about Saba or Nimi with this? i was talking about Nimi

>>103911697
Nerizza and gigi are new and haven’t been with fauna for a long time
I doubt that they knew anything, if even doon didn’t know. They could only know something like “fauna graduated for personal reason”

Is dooby the biggest holo ally?

>>103911776
You reminded me at how when Doob and Nimi are on stream, they seem to be polar oppositeside of one another, like the Blackbeard/Luffy intro

>>103911821
July 30th, 5 days after Dooby knew of the LLD and 9 after the LLD itself

>>103911608
so true okabe

>>103911697
Nerissa and GG are still fine with Fauna.
The issue she had with Kronii and now Saba/Dooby is personal, a.k.a. not related to what she does as Nimi. Maybe the LLD is a result of a disagreement she had with Dooby and Saba? When Dooby brought it up on stream, she was very weird, but not in the way that makes me think that's the reason why they fell out.

>>103911821
If you dig the archives someone noticed and people thought it was either a twitter bug or she accidentally unfollowed her

>>103911498
NTA
HoloEN lost around 1/3 of their box and that 1/3 is now their competition for the said market.
Saba alone is bigger than NijiEN and Vshojo market that HoloEN is targeting.

>>103911765
You type like you eat pagpag. A bit early for you, no?

>>103911806
Nah, it feels fucking great after those fags were crowing about how they were the future of EN vtubing for months. They reminded me of the 2022 nijisisters.

>>103911731
Shondo admitted she had a crush on her so i'm betting on Fauna being under a strict pre-debut NDA and Shondo going full yandere because Fauna didn't want to break it

>>103911844
>How do you feel "betrayed" by that exactly, even theoretically?
You're not getting the streamer side of this. It's the fact Nimi went public with it on twitter that saba isn't okay with it. Maybe Saba just doesn't want to associate with things like that? Who knows how her brainworms work

>>103911719
>its impossible to pay $5 to shipost
>gifts don't exist
>no one knows how to right click someone else's screenshot

>>103911811
there's no base to your claims. I still think Fauna told Kronii very early about wanting out to get married and Kronii thought that was fucking bullshit

>>103911831
It was around her debut.

>>103911749
As a midwestern man, Nerissa is a very "midwestern" woman. I'm surprised she doesn't already have two kids at least, most of them just get right into the whole family thing from the get-go or they go insanely baby crazy way faster than other women. That and they become "leftovers" faster too.

>>103911837
Maybe she has no problem with who she's marrying

>>103911806
Clearly we need a bigger rrat.

>>103911729
were you one of the SNORyS posters because I noticed that died a very abrupt death at the end of last month...

>>103911821
July 30th

Found this on reddit

>>103910479
proof? not saying that is not possible just wondering, it would explain a lot of things

>>103911736
Sensawa also added that “no. 1 fan of gawrgura &” after that. So saba is already on the table since that time

>>103911887
what are you talking about, saba can't even beat a single homo

>>103911845
Nimi lied to her
plain and simple

>>103911901
I cannot believe Saba is that petty. And I'm literally saying this as a napling.

>>103911896
I imagined it better, HoloEN competing head to head, getting the bigger advantage and showing why they were the best in the biz.

Instead the yab happened behind the scenes and then HoloEN just wiped the floor with the remainders for 17 days straight.

>>103911901
>Maybe Saba just doesn't want to associate with things like
Because she mindlessly follows catalog shitposts and adopts them as opinions?

>>103911942
those have been a thing all year, I've paid DHL duty fees on like 3 hololive merhc orders by now

>>103911887
People like you don't understand what the box is supposed to be.

>>103911942
That's just the typical duties statement.
$17 of that is a fee because DHL are fucking assholes.

>>103911853
dooby is just a nice person
her whole time in myth established that

>>103911942
60 bucks is inexpensive

>>103911955
>I cannot believe Saba is that petty.
>Streamed over Advent debut
>Streamed over Raora 3d
Come on now

>>103911697
>>103911749
>>103911908
>>103911788
>>103911847
>>103911874
I simply assumed that, considering her family, Rissa might simply have a soft spot for newlyweds.

>>103911536
>>103911570
>Gigi overlapped Nimi’s debut
>Kiara overlapped Saba’s debut
>Neither overlapped the concert’s debut
It’s. okay. when. Hololive. does. it.

>>103911961
...actually, yeah.

>>103911887
You didn't even read my post
>Vshojo
Is irrelevant here because the streamshart chart combines all the Holo branches.
>Saba is bigger than NijiEN market
Duh and that's the reason Holo market share would be also bigger without the bots. NijiEN and Phase are hogging a bigger % than what they are in reality, thanks to bots. NijiEN in particular is so much an offender that it shrinks HoloEN share on the chart.

>>103911901
That still makes 0 sense

>>103911982
She has no reason to give a fuck about those people. She had a connection with Nimi. And there's a difference between overlapping and unpersoning someone.

>>103911951
Probably for opsec reasons so it doesn't get leaked accidentally

>>103911845
>they sounded way too close for that
why do you insist with this revisionism? Gura has always been
1. Ame
2. Kronii/Mumei
3. Kiara
4. Fauna
you really overstimate how much she cares about Fauna. It was Fauna who loved and watched Gura streams not the other way around

>>103911997
I mean, if you can't understand it then that's fine. But to the general populace, this seems to be what makes the most sense.

What if Gura wants to "ungraduate" after this?

beef pork or steak for street tacos

>>103911926
Nope just a general promisefag that genuinely like(d) every member. Myth/Council were some of my fondest memories with things like the Halloween stream and I hoped that they would've all become genuinely close over the years after all the shit they've been through. Recent developments have been rather depressing.

>>103912017
>Saba opsec is stronger than Nimi
>Nimi herself announced it

>>103911946
If she was joining vshojo, why did the company let itself burn down when it did?

If you as a business owner know you have THE vtubing titan in the works, how do you fuck that up so bad? Like they couldnt just stretch out their finances 3 more months until Saba debuted and made it official and started raking in a shit ton of cash? Would saba not have been able to save the ship if they had a few more months?

I know they obvously ran the company like garbage but not being able to last until your trump card gets played is phenomonally bad

>>103912031
Not sure how you made that leap

>>103912049
I like ground beef

>>103912005
Raora was one of the only post-Council girls she actually interacted with.

>>103912005
>She had a connection with Nimi.
Yeah, had. Past tense. Nimi talked about her marriage and Saba WHO WE KNOW IS OPSEC QUEEN doesn't like when personal life and public life gets tied together.
So, she dropped Nimi.

The Avengers are more interesting than Hololive

>>103912040
After what, retard?

>>103912023
>Gura had Kronii and Mumei over Fauna
Not my impression

>>103912049
Steak...it is beef.....

>>103911674
Doesnt seem too complicated, whatever caused the weird tension in her gen just spread to everyone else because they finally found out what happened. I'd assume they are all friends with kronii too. Either that or its keeping it a secret about why you're quitting and actively or passively influencing others to quit, then revealing the reasons had nothing to do with the company.

The weakest reason would be worrying about reputational damage, cant imagine they are the sort to structure their friend groups around what crazy fans think but then again nimi seems to be ignoring shondo for that reason.

>>103912076
if you're a dramafag that is

>>103911901
Is this all based on the fact that Nimiand Dooby played Peak without Saba or did someone slip something?

>>103911806
I had considered them the first credible threat to holoEN's dominance since fucking late 2021 nijiEN. I mean it makes sense that the only thing that could rival holo would be just itself in indie form. but now that there's no strong akatsuki feeling and such AND vshojo straight up fucking died, holoEN is now like after Walter White killed Gus. no real competitor, the only question is can it actually run itself smoothly and keep growing or will it stagnate in this definite post-goldrush atmosphere of vtubing.

>>103911330
I'm a Ruffian, and the wait for any word, any comment, or any sign of amicability is making me increasingly anxious.

Everytime I enter the thread I go
>Nothing yet?

>>103912023
Bros I miss Gumei so much, my favorite duo.

>>103909322
11k not looking too good

>>103912083
After being lied to about Vshojo

>>103912075
Nah, Saba is not a bitch. She wouldn't unperson Nimi for that. Nimi did something wrong. I'm sure of it.

>>103912076
It is the drama thread after all

>>103912090
proof?

>>103912062
Also how does it not leak afterwards?

>>103912090
Steef...

>>103912040
There would be no reason to do that, she doesn't have any good friends left in holoEN and she would just stop streaming again because of corpo autism and permission garbage. She should have affiliated instead, like Ame, so she could still show up once a year in someone's bday or some smaller 3D shows or something.

>>103911874
It has nothing to do with the LLD. They wouldn't sever all contact with her because she is doing something that is completely normal for an adult human to do. You are digging in the wrong hole. The unfollow and disconnect happened after the Vshojo shit blew up. THAT is where you should be looking. I personally like the Mint/Fauna poaching for Vshojo theory and then after Vshojo blew up Dooby/Saba saw them for the grifters they were trying to sell them snake oil.

>>103912107
retard

>>103912119
Oh, you're retarded. My bad. The brain damaged really shouldn't be using this site.

>>103912126
You're right, Saba's not a bitch. She's a professional. And professionals don't talk about their marital status.

>>103912117
me too, anon. me too.

>>103912062
They had stopped paying everyone for like 9 months. Ironmouse finally got fed up and blew the whistle when she realized there was serious risk to her personal brand because they had stolen all the charity money she raised using the extremely retarded "subs for charity" method. She had to get ahead of it, or be considered culpable.
I think "saba to Vshojo" theory is a bit retarded, considering Saba has an entire infrastructure of her own including lawyers, an LLC, and merch, and clearly doesn't need a retarded flip to help her, nor do I think she'd tie her personal brand to the most obvious crypto-babiniku in the entire industry Zentreya. but that's not really the hole in it.
Also I don't think Saba would save Vshojo in any case, because they would have had to suck her mackerel cock with a ludicrously good contract to ever even get her to consider it, so they'd make no money from her.

>>103912142
>The unfollow and disconnect happened after the Vshojo shit blew up

The thing is, both the LLD and V-Shojo's death happened on the EXACT. SAME. DAY. July 21st.

>>103912076
Lol, whole thread is highschool girl drama right now, that is content catered to lig and phasepags, not surprised your entertained.

>>103912076
Sure, it's a pretty solid flick, but it falls off hard with Age of Ultron

>>103912162
didnt Taylor swift just announce her marriage today lmao

>>103912062
apparently they are soliciting their ex-talents for money saying they "don't have enough funds to declare bankruptcy".. the cost of the bankruptcy process is like, $1000. which for a company that had a budget of a million+ you'd think that would be around somewhere.

so no they really were as unbelievably crooked/badly run as you'd think for them to have an entire house of cards built on a wobbly table.

nimi isn't even streaming but this thread is just back to back nimi mentions kek

>>103912086
yeah nigga because you don't watch streams.

>>103912107
Mori lost to a normal Saba stream a few days ago. Twice.

>>103912142
The guy you're responding to is agreeing with you, I think. People assume that Nimi had the LLD and then Saba and Dooby got mad, when in fact what might have happened is that Saba and Dooby got mad at her for unrelated reasons and she got ahead of it by doing the LLD so that they would look bad if they made a big deal out of it.

>>103912107
You've got your years wrong, 2022 was the era when NijiEN seemed like a threat. Late 2021 VShojo actually seemed like a threat briefly because they had three girls who regularly got 10k (I know, Twitch numbers, but still).

>>103912117
Mooms went radio silent recently... She is probably on a boat looking at whale penis.

So that's it? Saba, Nimi and Dooby Win forever?

>>103912185
>this thread is just back to back nimi mentions
Well someone has to mention her
Saba sure didn't.

>>103911811
>>103911905
it's obvious, and now you remember she going faumei in 2024 UNTIL the graduation announcement, pretty weird isnt it? also the girls going uwu my wife uwu kiss and then oops uncomfortable silence, also the reason Gura said that she can be emotionally raw with Kronii it's because she doesn't hide anything(reason why she's pretty shit in relationships since she said she's toxic clingy), reason why Kronii also loves Kaela and Kaela said that Kronii is a good friend, reason why all the girls love Kronii also, why didn't Fauna just call Kronii and apologizes since it's so easy? hehe

>>103912199
Thanks for the compliment anon

>>103912162
You're projecting your retarded unicorn thoughts on Saba and making it seem like this is a nothingburger and I'm giving Saba the benefit of the doubt and assuming she has a good reason to unperson Nimi.

>>103912199
Yeah, mine.

>>103912185
That's why this thread should just be taken out and not be allowed to exist. The faggots here are even containment breaking to other threads.

There was never such a thing as "Avengers" it was all shitposting material made by schizos, and if you fell for that you probably belong to some twitter/FB group that swallows any bait

>>103912188
Saba lost to Gigi and Nerissa, and that's not counting the 3D Debuts

>>103912230
>You're projecting your retarded unicorn thoughts on Saba
... What? We know for a fact Saba is unicorn queen. What cope is this?

>>10391218
One person who was previously boosted by said company doesn't mean shit anon. Everyone else is also falling off now.

>>103912185
You have to understand. Although some IRyStocrats may disagree, Fauna was the favorite of this thread for a long time. Some people here are just having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that she ended up not being a good person and is generally disliked by her peers (as we saw from Kronii, Bae, Saba, Dooby, etc.).

>>103912076
Why is no one talking about Saba stream then ?

>>103912062
well, they don’t even have enough to file bankruptcy

>>103912187
That faggot really can't make it more clear.

>>103912183
How fucking disconnected am I that this is how I found that out

>>103910929
No Twisty?

>>103912251
Mori and the entire EN branch lost to a normal Saba stream. Twice.

>>103912258
Saba would not stop being friends with Nimi because she's getting married. She's not a bitch.

>>103912280
she’s batshit crazy

>>103912117
youre never getting this back

>>103912147
considering nimi had a long run of success, doob could be written off as lmao ame and saba had a really strong start, it did look like the argument was there that there could be a faux-Holo group outside Holo that got to keep all the money and do basically whatever it wanted. but obviously it's clear now that leaving holo is gonna start to put in distance from yourself and the real deal, whodathunkit.

>>103912230
>"why did Saba did this"
>get the answer
>"NONONONO IT COULDN'T BE IT'S SOMETHING ELSE"
ok dude believe what you want then

>>103912062
>why did the company let itself burn down when it did?
>If you as a business owner know you have THE vtubing titan in the works, how do you fuck that up so bad?
Gura graduated in 2025. VShojo stopped paying kson in November 2024 and wasn’t paying their talent for merch from 2022 (Nazuna) and 2023 (Kuro, IIRC).
GunRun bet EVERYTHING on securing a new round of funding and he was so safe he would he used the charity money thinking he could put it back later.

I can easily see him going to Gura and saying
>wanna make 2 million bucks in signing alone?
and failing to pony up the cash

>>103912169
Still, when talking to Ironmouse, you tell her,
"hey, we have THE gawr gura joining us in X months, please hold out until we get this up and running"
If that doesnt cause Ironmouse to shut the fuck up and sit still, I dont know what would.

>>103912230
Aaaaand the mask comes off.

>>103912269
Be the change you want to see anon.

>>103912273
That's them just trying to fuck with/shake down the talents, Gunrun is a millionaire and could fund a bankruptcy. they could get enough to file bankruptcy just by selling the office furniture.

>>103912304
>>103912297

>>103909058
Copilot, please remind me to grudgepost this retard faggot when the time he specified comes

>>103912269
Why would I ever livepost her stream to you worthless scum?

>>103912188
One person who was previously boosted by a corpo doesn't mean shit anon. Everyone else who left are also starting to fall off now and we are yet to see if it will affect saba over time too, especially if she ever goes on one of her famous long hiatuses.

>>103912107
Late 2021 NijiEN is when ethyria debuted, they dropped below HoloID by then

>>103912195
2022 overall yeah but I vaguely recall seeing vox get a natty 17k (did he actually get gold at least once) in I thought late december '21 and thinking "wow, ok holo has a serious competition now in a way it doesn't even have an answer for, this is getting interesting." could be just misremembering that as early 22 but whatever. luxiem's immediate surge was notable from their debuts basically.

>>103912169
This is a big reason why I think the Saba vshojo shit was never a thing. She had everything all set up and ready to go so unless she was getting the vshojo death details months ahead, the merch part would gave to go through them, but it was set up and ready to go at debut

>>103912297
it's not about getting married
it's about lying about it and not telling anyone until after the fact

Its really fucking funny Saba stopped mentioning Nimi after the LLD, im 90% thats not the reason but its still hilarious

>>103912023
>Kiara below Kronii/Mumei
>Fauna below Kronii/Mumei
retarded newfag

>>103912353
Oh you mean this kind of fall off?

>>103912184
is gunrun homeless, how does he not have $1000 to spare

>>103912333
Grudgepost what? Him no longer being a Nimi fan the moment that happens? It's a countdown. I don't think you know what grudgepost means.

>>103912302
Saba's numbers evaporated really fucking fast though, her debut buff was basically gone in two weeks outside of first time collabs. Even before the cull her numbers were starting to look mediocre compared to her old self.

>>103912062
i dont know but honestly speaking, i think Saba joining vshojo would've let the same effect as kson joining vshojo which is a insane betrayal and a feel of dishonesty, like i dont think chumbuds would go "yaaay she joined the whore company!". Then again, because of this same reason i know her joining vshojo is just retarded from the start (not impossible, but incredibly retarded to think of)

>>103912062
Saba had to wait for a year before joining. Same clause as Kson who announced she would join Vshojo exactly a year after Coco graduated

>>103912312
And you think Saba/gura wouldnt DM Kson or anyone and be like:
>Hey they offered me this to join vshojo, what do you think
>oh they havent paid me in a year
>oh then nvm lol I wont join then

Saba is an isolated asocial autist but she would still ask around before commiting to join the company

>>103912183
Damn Nimi is so influential, even Taylor swift is doing lore drops now

>>103912377
It's really fucking funny how you're the only person in this thread that doesn't think LLD is the reason behind it.

Niggas so desperate they still believe the Vshojo rrat lol

So Twitch is also doing this thing

>>103912361
VShojo just provides absolutely nothing to someone like Saba who probably has rich white family that knew how to set up a business for her. She's not some fucking idiot who can't hire lawyers or file a Delaware corp and gives away some huge percent so a former pro gamer with a backpack obsession can party and do cocaine using her money.

>>103912401
That’s what I assume that happened. I don’t think her graduation has anything to do with VShojo but I can see her receiving and considering the proposal until she finally got wind of the inside baseball of the company

>>103912302
I don't think you understand Hololive success if you think that 3 girls could threaten them.

>>103912420
There's at least three of us.

>>103912288
>The entire EN branch
Nah, this is what happens when the entire branch competes.

>>103912312
>VShojo stopped paying kson in November 2024
man... i dont hate her but jesus christ she's such a retard, all those tweets going high and mighty about "better contracts" and bullshit, for a bunch of ppl she barely speak to...

>>103912380
You already lost the argument by posting that lmao. I didn't even claim saba fell off because I know there is a cull that also affected that stream you posted too. All I said we will will see if she does fall off over time like others did.

>>103912444
>There's at least three of us.
What an oddly specific number for an anonymous forum.

>>103912359
>but I vaguely recall seeing vox get a natty 17k (did he actually get gold at least once) in I thought late december '21
I don’t think so. NijiEN first non debut -k only came in early 2022

>>103910929
Make them FPS autists and they're suddenly perfect

>>103912359
No, pretty sure you're misremembering, if Vox got natty 17k in December 2021 it would have to have been his debut. Luxiem didn't start catching on with the chinksisters and the SEAsisters until late January the next year.

>>103912420
I just dont get why Saba why would be mad at that

>>103912473
>Everyone else who left are also starting to fall off now
>now
>now
>now

>>103912476
I'm the "Saba isn't a bitch so she wouldn't do that", guy, then there's the "The LLD is a smokescreen for what really happened [VShojo Drama Here]" and then there's the guy you replied to. That's at least 3.

>>103911905
Look at what Kronii said to Fauna during her graduation stream, at first she underlines that Faunwell was her idea (to which Fauna apologizes,weirdely enough) then she brings up all the stuff they did together but didn't conclude, kinda obviouss she was still hurt over Fauna "dropping their activities"

>>103912297
>shondo fell in love with nimi and got butthurt
>kronii fell in love with nimi and got buthurt
>/vt/ fell in love with nimi and got butthurt
>saba... used to act like a shy boy around nimi and suddenly...

>>103909146
>When thinking about the impact of performers' retirement, they think the main thing to be worried about is short term impact.
That's a dangerous mindset.

>>103912504
>Me and my two devices

>>103912264
since when does Bae dislike Fauna

>>103912169
Ironmouse 100% panicked and blew it up early because someone found out or the charity was going to go public, and she was gonna take a hit unless she reframed it all as all not her fault. Mata, zen, that one elf chick already left and Kson was leaving in August, they weren't long for the world regardless.

>>103912504
why does being upset about LLD mean she's a bitch?

>>103912359
His only appearance on the tally is on the day of his debut, mate

>>103912540
...

>>103912492
10k, I surely mean. Here is a contemporary account

>>103912504
The fact that you somehow know those other two anons are not in fact the same anon just makes me think it's you trying to have three different opinions on the matter

>>103912279
Could be worse I found it from nfl reddit

>>103912280
too unstable

>>103912297
No but she would stop associating to someone that's open about their private life because she's afraid of masses asking her if she has a boyfriend or whatever

>>103912432
They're getting money conscious

>>103910929
>Inviting menhera to Hololive
I guess Rushia isn't enough we need bring in 4.

>>103912190
That… would make nimi look even worse as being both calculative and manipulative

>>103912528
>>103912569
Alright, schizos

>>103912548
Because being upset at a woman that adores you and is in the same situation as you having recently graduated and gone indie because she's getting married is a bitch move. It's a stupid petty reason to unperson someone. Worse, you can call it cynical in that she's trying to avoid drama, which is just as much a bitch move.

I'm saying that Saba unpersoning Nimi probably means she has an actual good reason to do it.

>>103912492
>>103912559
Here is their first. The fact they did that in the absolute HARSHEST DAY of CCVID shows how different their audience was from the typical North American OR from the typical vtuber audience at all

>>103912545
Yeah, I definitely believe IM was in on whatever slimy shit VShojo was doing, the whole corpo was geared toward propping her up after all. Her numbers had also been taking a dive before that so she needed that drama buff. Wonder who she'll try to destroy next time her numbers start flagging.

>>103912076
You're so funny anon

>>103912624
No shit lol

>>103912297
She would be absolutely skeeved out that Nimi was yuri baiting on stage with her bff dooby then turn around a couple days later to announce she's getting married. Even amongst girls that's fucking weird

Surely if Gura was gonna join Vshojo then she collab with one of her vshojo friends and not fucking laimu right? That’s literally the only non Ex holo she has shown any interest in

>>103912625
>and is in the same situation as you having recently graduated and gone indie because she's getting married
i can neither confirm nor deny that i am getting married to gura

>>103912258
Ame literally collabed with holostar though

>>103912559
Here it is, NijiEN's first ever 10k stream was on the 9th of January, 2022, and it was...Mysta.

If Sabadoob unpersoned Nimi does thst mean they also unpersoned Mint?

>>103912520
>Dooby "we don't really talk much outside of stream" fell in love with nimi and unfollo-
Oh wait. You wish the answer was that easy, but it's something much more shitty and the truth will come out eventually

>>103912555
that's what I thought. Bae always loved and still loves Fauna

NIMI MENTION

>>103912650
>>103912671
Studying some old tallies, it seems like, rather than Miload, it was Mysta the one that had the biggest drawing power in NijiEN in terms of CCV.

Was Vox the one considered the most popular because he earned the most money?

>>103912668
And during that time Ame and Gura interactions were basically zero, or are we supposed to ignore that? Also show me the Dooby male collab faggot

>>103912652
So was Melody. She just relaunched the keyboards VShojo failed to deliver (with a different supplier) and is going with a NO REFUNDS, NO COMPLAINTS demeanor

I'm not currently because I'm stuck in meeting hell is my Saba being cute?

>>103912650
Ah yes, I remember that whole year when a bunch of retards here claimed that the future of numbers was to target everything toward SEA.

>>103912313
>Prima donna prime ceding the spot light

>>103912698
Despite no one talking about Saba's stream, we're still watching it. You're not going to fool anybody

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO VSHOJO TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON BABY

Without her bots Shiina needs to use all her assets to bring her numbers up.

>>103911251
This is your post faggot

>>103912625
and having a friend lying to your face for years is not a bitch move?

>”NIMI MENTIONED!”
>”NIMI MENTIONED!”
>”NIMI MENTIONED!”

>>103912736
It was on Mint's stream

>>103912707
Mysta was always better than Vox in CCV. Vox was funnier to meme about because of his of rape ASMRs and the batshit sisters that watched them. He did indeed get the most SC though.

>>103912734
honestly, Ironmouse learning that Saba would be joining, getting jealous and upset, and deciding to burn it down instead of being usurped, is a hilarious idea to me.

YAGOO???

>>103912707
Vox was the erotic ASMR specialist having chinese women spam ESL "gluck gluck gluck" ERP in his chat, and he was also super menhera with interesting drama, and yes he made a lot of money, so he was the most interesting to talk about.
Mysta could barely veil his complete contempt for his audience and never had the fascinating flip-flop between desperate pandering and PARASOCIAL FUCK-posting that Vox did, so he wasn't quite as interesting.

>>103912473
NTA
All of EN fall off anon since like what you said there is a cull.
Saying one side fall off isn't honest since all of EN fall off.
Unless you count bots and think the recent Holo Events flopped hard since they lost like 1/3 of their ccv.

>>103912707
Everyone knew Mysta had the highest CCV out of NijiEN up until August 2022 (the “usual tables” showed that).
Vox had the game of being more popular because of his SC and the flamboyant style of social media engagement but Mysta audience was bigger

>>103912569
Kek

>>103911853
No, but she holds the 1st place for vtuber with the biggest breasts

>>103912716
So can we stop pretending she's a "good whore" now? I was never fooled, a whore is a whore.

>>103912675
The reality is that the vshojo plant rrats make a lot more sense it if was Nimi and Mint (confirmed).

>That's a silly name, I don't like it
Saba hates Yagoo confirmed

>>103912671
What a horrible time that was

>leave Hololive
>start behaving like catty bitches
tap the fucking sign

>Saba account = January
but Sen added " #1 fan of gawrgura &..." in July ?
and I think Nimi account = July too.

smile

>>103912429
>Vshojo paying retards to shit on hololive actually turned out to be true
# has a perfect track record at this point. We've never been wrong on anything.

>>103912679
They are friends of friends, if your friend stops giving a shit or is hurt by something then why would you want to deal with them.

>>103912707
Vox got huge donations from chinese coomers. Mysta had the SEA audience whih was bigger number but pathetic donations

GURAS COMING BACK BROS

NIMI MENTION

NIMI MENTION

NIMI MENTION

From Mint. About vampire movies.

>>103912835
No, the & was added around October 2024

>>103912835
yea bro news flash theres a reason why people called them grifters

>>103912782
>usurped

Shes a fucking 4k ccv shitter

>>103912821
i dont think anyone itt cares about any of them anon

>>103912782
They were crashing one way or the other they were out of money and everyone was quitting.

>>103911967
Which in turn makes Cover assholes. If they could just the their shipping options sorted out, that would help as much as setting up USA distribution or mfg.

>>103911253
Daddy Bill is gonna force her to upgrade

>>103912877
Saba is a 9k shitter

Nerissa doesn't stream much because she spends most of her time jerking off to Mint on anonymous basket weaving Mongolian forum sites

>>103912731
I was one the harshest critics of HoloID retreat to ID market in late 2021. Then Kobo and ID3 debuted and I thought they proved me wrong but time proved my theory to be right

>>103912724
Always

>>103912832
Fubuki kinkoi adventure…

Another rrat why didn't the other girls react and only nimi reacted to the guy leaking info? they have nothing to hide or he was related to Nimi? if the supposed guy worked for cover and Fauna's graduation wasn't her decision, what does that mean?

>>103912049
Tripas

>>103912885
No, there have been people here for years who used Melody as an example of a good/inoffensive VShojo despite her being a literal camgirl.

>>103912907
Idc about saba, mouse is a fucking nobody.

>>103912714
There was a day where both of them played Katamari, and both of them kept changing their stream title to see who would get the bigger ball.

>>103912906
She should switch to linux

Saba hates women.

>>103912953
Mouse is the #1 EN vtuber now

Advanced edging techniques

>>103912971
Isn't that cookieswirl?

>>103911979
You yanking my chain? That's 5 hamburgers at Jack in the box. Hardly inexpensive

>>103912500
ogey

>>103912936
Because the rrat about Gura/Saba being the secret Vshojo hire is retarded but if you replace Gura and instead make it Nimi then BAM everything makes sense.
The mint fascination, the reason why vshojo had her info, the sudden Dooby and Saba Stalining when shit hit the fan.

>>103912936
That guy was already working for vshoujo at that time, so…

>>103912774
>Mysta was always better than Vox in CCV
Eh, it was a mix between the two. Mysta was more consistent but Vox had a higher ceiling when it came to viewership.

>>103911128
>Mint had to leech to get these numbers
Good for her for finding a way to grow her channel

>>103912864
kys Nerissa >>103912911

>>103912832
CCVID was a monstruosity, even the current cull cannot compare, because at least the current cull doesn't affect Global. Can you imagine a Global Tally with 6 entries nowadays?

>>103912900
Cover tries to collect the duties and fees from merch these days to avoid that fee. Although it doesn't help that the tariffs are just completely set by random whim and change monthly. It's a horrendous environment to try to do business.

>>103912965
>insta noticed panty lines with thin dress
I think she loves women

>>103912961
She is going to install Linux Mint, hate it and go back to Win10

>>103912936
she just wanted to announce her shit anon, the rrat of "she went ahead with LLD because someone was about to leak her shit!" is just retarded

>>103912833
You left Hololive?

>>103912390
You know what didn't evaporate? Her debut merch $$$$$$$$$$$$$. More collabs and sponsors on the way btw! Get rekt

>>103912782
Wouldn't surprise me since Ironmouse is the most fragile house of cards ever. She isn't that strong of a vtuber, she is just propped up by all of twitch with special favors and basically half the damn website raids her every time she streams. She is the most obvious example of an industry plant that I've ever seen.

Why do these girls burn the bridge completely? They can't just maintain a working relationship?

Rrats are indestructible

Saba better stay away from that Laimu girl for her own good or tell her to drop her manager and join Sabacorp
>>103879567
>>103909680
>>103910584

>>103913036
But Linux Mint is way better than windows

>>103912390
Some people were really disappointed that she didn't spent her debut shittalking Holo.

>>103913038
pfft sure, announcing something and then nothing the rest of days

I still think Fauna decision influenced Gura and Mumei graduations.