Thread 103927981

>>103927981 (OP)
Who?
But also good for her. I'll never get over how retarded it is that the medium built by and loving Lolicon, all the way back to Kizuna Ai, somehow attracted retards genuinely angry at loli. Nature is healing.

>commissions a loli model.
>is mad people call them a loli.
>years later backtrack.
why does this keep happening in the first place? it's not like they're seeing the model for the first time when they start streaming.

>>103928028
Because w*men want the "loli cute" bonus but aren't willing to pay the "loli sexy" tax.

Why the fuck are you posting shit that happened along time ago?

>>103928101
every time you see a retarded twitter screencap post on the 'log, it's probably because of this SEA's discord raiding again

>>103928101
the tweet from the OP is ~5 hours old, anon

>>103927981 (OP)
The juxtaposition of her silly avatar and her writing these serious tweets & giving life advice on stream made me stop watching.
JUST STFU AND REACT TO MOO DENG BITCH!!!

>>103927981 (OP)
TL;DR: Bot crackdown hurts so please come watch me again, pedophiles.

>>103928101
the tweet is new, people were bringing out her old "loli is le bad" tweets after she released a figure. just like camila after she did loli kami cover, interesting how the apology only comes out after they release something. dyrbi?

>>103928101
it was literally only like 5 hrs ago

>>103927981 (OP)
Saba collab incoming

>>103927981 (OP)
fair enough
did she say some racist shit or?

>>103928399 (me)
oh she used be a lolicon or something mb

>>103928410 (me)
WAIT WHAT

>>103928420
in response to this picture that went viral after the announcement. she is now pro-loli

I thought lolifags liked being shittalked by brats
Why all the seething?

>>103928481
>went viral

>>103928101
People on veetee posts things that had happened even 20 years ago, fren

>>103928399
>>103928410
>>103928420
She didn't use to be a lolicon - the opposite. She used to have a loli model and then decided it creeped her out having lolicons watching her do changed to the silly chibi she has now. She also made a lot of comments attacking lolicons and lolis. This was years ago though, so I'm not sure why she's apologising now.

It is funny though; this is the second chuuba I've seen very publicly walk back their anti-loli stance. It worked for Camila (she started to increase in popularity after apologising to Shondo) maybe it'll work for her.

>>103928028
>>103928152
>>103928224
>>103928481
If the only people who pander to lolicons are people who secretly dislike it and do it as a grift, then this field is a ticking timebomb. This will not be able to last. It will all explode eventually.
It doesn't make any logical sense to do it. It's pure greed and short term profit seeking. Yeah you will make money at the beginning but then it will dry up fast and you will have irrevocably destroyed your reputation.

>>103928584
I remember a bait thread made about Doki, the subject of which was a tweet from 2020. Catalogfags will spend most of their day scrolling back through twitter timelines.

>>103928638
>If the only people who pander to lolicons are people who secretly dislike it
This isn't the case. There are some lolis who are also lolicons themselves - Saba for example. I know there are a lot of people who claim she's just grifting but if that's the case then she's extremely dedicated because she's been portraying herself as a lolicon long before she was in Hololive.

>>103928640
>Catalogfags will spend most of their day scrolling back through twitter timelines
They truly are the most depressing types of people. Seems like such a waste of time to me.

>>103928618
I'm just a little bewildered to find out the above speech wasn't someone apologizing for being a lolicon, but in fact apologizing for NOT being a lolicon. No value judgements from me here, it's just wild to see especially as I didn't read the title of the thread and only saw the image.

>>103928693
You're misreading it, she's apologizing about being a prick when nobody asked. If you start insulting someone and got your teeth punched in, then you deserve it. It applies to everything else too not only anime.

I'm usually very sceptical of things like this but considering this tweet I'm going to edge on the side of believing her.

https://x.com/chibidokii/status/1960565003225829379

>>103928731
>got your teeth punched in
lol
browns being overly dramatic never stops being funny

>>103928761
This isn't even a race issue. Rent free

>>103928640
>>103928678
except this tweet is from a few hours ago, why are you building strawmen to knock down?

>>103928169
yeah but thats her reaction to a post of hers someone pulled from 2021, where she just said lolicons are icky
i think she's based for changing her mind, but she doesn't need to profusely apologize like this, it's not a big deal

>>103928761
>browns
My man, go to Glasgow and start calling random men faggots - you'll find out very quickly that beating the shit out of people if they insult you isn't just a non-white thing.
>>103928774
Having said that though, you saying rent free suggests you are in fact brown. I don't no why anons post "rent free" because it almost always proves the original anon is entirely right in mentioning their fanbase / race.

>>103928733
Huh. Good for her.

>>103928846
>I don't no
I of course meant I don't know. I'm six cans in so I'm a little bit tipsy.

>>103928846
>I don't no
ESLs larping as whites will never be not funny

>>103928733
an online woman who is capable of self reflection. That's rarer than finding pearl in oyster,

>>103928152
Isn't that the phasecuck shill acc?

>>103928819
Original statement:
>Catalogfags will spend most of their day scrolling back through twitter timelines.
My reply to this:
>They truly are the most depressing types of people. Seems like such a waste of time to me.
(You):
>why are you building strawmen to knock down?
Do your reading comprehension reps faggot

>>103928888
See >>103928887
You try drinking that much Special Brew and not making mistakes, particularly with fat fingers on a phone.

>>103928733
Gonna echo what the other anon said, only apologizing when there’s money and selling involved is disingenuous. If it was out of principle the apology would come at random
A person will have to spend 10x more effort and time they’ve spent on hating, into proving they’ve changed

>>103928846
>Glasgow
Scots are a conquered people, an actual slave race with no ability to even consider disobeying their owners.

>>103928224
>interesting how the apology only comes out after they release something. dyrbi?
I mean, yeah. You dont go public and make announcements the moment you change your mind on anything unless you are truly terminally addicted to twitter. She decided shes okay with loli years ago, but she didnt need to make a tweet about it until something public happened and she needed to set the record straight. People around her community have realized that she's long changed her stance when she started regularly collabing with lolitubers like henya, but the general vtubing audience didnt know until she does some public event that makes enough noise.

>>103928945
not gonna defend her because I really don't care, but I don't remember shit I said last week much less 4 years ago. why would anyone unprompted apologize for random tweets they made ages ago unless it was explicitly being brought up to them like it was here?

>>103928978
Simp

>>103928945
Fair enough, but I think what makes me believe her is the fact she's willing to just accept people shitting on her. Often you find after these kinds of statements the person will make another tweet complaining about "abuse" and "death threats" (which are conveniently only supposedly sent via DM). She's said she accepts the criticism. Maybe it's just purely to sell her merch but to me it suggests genuine redemption.

>>103928900
>Catalogfags will spend most of their day scrolling back through twitter timelines.
the tweets in this thread are all from today.
>>103928481
the ones bringing up old tweets are vtweeters.
the catalogfags digging up the past you speak of are not here and you brought them up to knock them down in >>103928678. I know reading is hard. do you need to ask grok for help?

>>103928945
She probably didn't even remember that post, it's been over 4 years ago. She never talked about this topic at all since then. It's not like you think about what you said that one time 4 years ago and randomly and come to conclusion you changed your mind and should apologize right now.

>>103929034
>you changed your mind and should apologize right now.
Any moral person would do that

>>103929004
It's fucking depressing to me that on this board it's impossible to have actual discussions without some fucking faggot like this. /lit/ manages reasonable discussion, /his/ manages it (granted, usually the arguments are fucking retarded, but still). Why is it that on this board there rarely is any sensible discussion?

>>103929020
Nta, but I am this anon >>103928640
I wasn't talking about Chibidoki's tweet, or implying it was ancient, I was just pointing out that very frequently catalogfags use ancient tweets for bait - that anon was also just talking about catalogfags in general.

>>103929050
Yeah but you probably don't think about that thing you said to a random person years ago right? Maybe if it's like a really bad thing you said or did, but all she said is for lolicons to not tag her and that she considers it yucky. It's not like she said you're all pedophiles and should be executed (like many twitter users do). She wasn't engaging in this discourse at all until someone tagged her.

>>103929062
>board for ethot simping doesn’t have good discussion
No shit

>>103928618
>not sure why she's apologising now.
economy is bad and she can´t afford to refuse pedo whales anymore

>>103929288
shut up nigga you're that whale

>>103927981 (OP)
Yikes and here I thought Chibi better than the bitch crew. Where the big Vtubers with principles? I guess I can give her credit for not being an actively coniving bitch, right??

>>103928638
It's actually the other way round. People love the loli aesthetic, but are either pozzed in the brain because "fiction affects reality" or simply afraid of backlash and drama, so they try to find ways to have their cake and eat it. Be a lolituber but make clear that you are actually anti-loli. The irony usually gets lost.

>>103929366
I know there are a lot of tourists on this board from /pol/ and KF, but believe it or not a lot of vtuber fans are not lolicons (and most vtubers are not lolis).

>>103927981 (OP)
I still don't fuck with the bitch, but good for her, hopefully her fans won't chimp out because she is no longer an anti

>>103929438
All the popular VTubers that matter are either pro-loli or indifferent. The number of VTubers in the Top 100 most watched that are actively anti-loli number in the single digits.
The most popular VTuber song of all time is a lolicon anthem. You can't have VTubing without the loli

>>103928731
There's nothing wrong with mocking nonces

>>103929501
Both the mockers and the mocked should be shoved into a meat grinder

>>103929501
>mocking nonces
Not that Anon, but ehat does a one-time-use token have to do with anything?

>>103929494
Just because Suisei is flat doesn't make her a loli

>>103929543
Suisei is a loli, the most popular one that is

>>103929501
you need to go back

>>103929438
All vtubers are lolicons, /pool/ and KF's youtube channels were right.

>>103927981 (OP)
>forced to apologize and bend the knee to cunnychads
first Camila and now her kek.

Based, another one converted to the good side.

>>103928545
because these bitches aren't brats but grown ass grifter foids.

>>103929587
as money gets tigher, all of them will have to lean into the fetish of their models. hag and loli alike

>>103929494
This.

>>103929494
I wasn't talking about being anti-loli, just that most fans and vtubers aren't lolicons / lolis. I'm not anti-loli - I wouldn't trust a lolicon to babysit a kid just like I wouldn't trust a furry to look after a dog - but I don't have a knee-jerk hatred of them. I also don't have an issue watching loli vtubers, but that doesn't mean I'm "pro-loli"

>>103929501
>nonces
bri'ish, lego ingerland

>>103929680
Anyone making posts like yours I wouldn't trust around dogs nor children, and I'm indifferent to both sides.
You're overcompensating. Stop projecting faggot.

>>103929543
isn't she into shotas? I don't think that's much different.

>>103929680
>>103929438
>t. I'm totally not normal guise pls believe me
whitoid moment

>>103929698
I'm presuming you're a furry lolicon? Like I said I don't hate you but you need to understand most people will look at you and not want you around their kids or dogs - that's just reality.

>>103929720
There's some really weird double standard in the Western world, where w*men being vocally anti-loli will thirst like crazy for shota boys. 9 times out of 10 you scratch the surface on an anti-loli account, you'll find a fujo thirsting for Bakugo X Midoriya or some crap

>>103929750
Man, I hope you don't have anyone playing Smash Bros. in your circle of acquaintances..

>>103929680
>>103929750
>y-you need to understand you need to be a defeatist like the whitoid i am!

>>103928481
morality is flexible when money is involved

>>103929740
>brown who literally eats dogs tries to morally lecture
Actual humans with IQs above 100 are trying to have a conversation, be quiet.

>>103929680
>>103929750
Your posts reek of guilt and shame

Go back to the deep web where you belong, you don't fit in with anime fans

>>103929532
Proverbs 3:34

>>103928638
>then this field is a ticking timebomb
Always has been

>>103929803
You sure seem angry at me, despite me saying I have no issue with loli chuubas. I can only assume you're angry because I pointed out that most people wouldn't trust lolicons around kids - why are you so desperate to have access to kids?

>even this side of the issue does the "THE APOLOGY IS NOT ENOUGH >:(" bullshit
this is why you NEVER apologize, it's not worth it, the people demanding an apology don't actually want one, they want to humiliate you.
she was in the wrong but she should still not have apologized. never bend the knee.

>>103929865
i dont think hes angry at all, you're just insufferable in general

>>103929720
SS isn't nonceshite, it's paradise. my 9 year old awakening was too the old hag spies on Totally Spies. Before then I found most girls gross. I even had a female childhood rival. To this day no one has ever pissed me off as much as her

>>103928894
Likely friends with that Armchair guy with all that bias and seethe.

>>103929884
>you're just insufferable in general
Yes that's unfortunately because I was born a bong - there is no cure sadly.

>>103929879
Fuck off

>>103929879
Says the one making the "apology is not enough" posts lol
You're trying to discourage people apologizing to further proliferate and encourage your obsession for witchhunts and trolling

>>103927981 (OP)
I love cunny, but I’m gonna be real: apologizing for “bullying” people who are attracted to lolis is funny. But cool…

>>103929923
this isn't twitter, tranny, you can't bully me into apologizing, you're a bitch.

>>103929929
Kill yourself defeatist faggot

>>103929879
>>103929945
Ofc the person who actively discourages apologizing is a transphobe

>>103929928
uh huh, nice fanfiction, is this how you justify your SJW-like behavior? assume everyone who thinks you're a faggot must be a spy trying to subvert justice or whatever retarded bullshit you're on?

>>103929978
>Noooooo don't apologize and always be angry like me :((
Lol

>>103929774
>>103929947
What do you think the word defeatist means? You're clearly ESL, and you've made it very clear you hate white people, but I'm interested to know what that word means in your tiny brain.

>>103930001
>being this insecure about his skin color and forced to reply
Kek

Ofc the bitter 4channer doesn't want you to apologize because they want you to live like the sad sack of shit that they are

Can't have you making up with people now because they'll get jealous of your happiness

>>103928638
>Yeah you will make money at the beginning but then it will dry up fast
Certain hologirls are still doing that just fine. No sign of things going bad. With indies it's even easier due to having less rules in the first place compared to corpo life.

>>103930021
>forced to reply
Anon? This is a catalog bait thread. If you feel validation from a white man replying to your shitpost in a shitpost thread then maybe you're mentally ill and should stop obsessing over white people.

>>103930104
>trying to justify his insecurities
KEK
This is just getting sad anon

>>103929865
>>103929922
I'm afraid it's terminal...
Suicide is your only cure

>>103930123
Anon, I'm sure you're getting a hard on engaging with a white man but I'm not exactly sure why you think you're coming across as the winner in this situation, rather than just a gibbering monkey.

>>103930123
>>103930154
Oh he's really angry...

>>103930168
cool it with your faggy fantasies, chaim

>>103927981 (OP)
I don't dislike chibi, but she clearly still hates loli, lolicon and anything related to that culture. she even hates her own artist mama. She tries to distance herself as much as possible from that community by making her model as goofy as possible.

>>103930218
That's not true, otherwise she wouldn't have made the loli daki in the first place.

>>103930198
>chaim
Kek, of course the monkey is a Nick Fuentes fan. Not a surprise that you idolise a Mexican faggot who encouraged a Pakistani paedophile to rape young boys.

>>103930185
>>103930245
Zamn you're projecting really hard right now

Don't do drugs kids

I dropped chibi when she collabed with doki

>>103930233
did she call it like that?

>>103930185
I don't get where you got the "really angry" idea from a light hearted anti-bong joke. Bongs and frenchies are 2 sides of the terminally ill coin

>>103930269
Monkey boy says what?

>>103930322
What? Where's the anti-bong joke in those teo posts? I'm fine with taking the piss out of my country - I posted this >>103929922

>>103929922
>>103930368
Are you sure you're a bong and not a "bong"?

You sound like the latter

remember you cant have a conscience if you cant remember

>>103930317
I dunno man, i just checked and it's a loli figure not a loli daki.

>>103930396
Are you the monkey boy from before? No I'm an actual ethnic Scot - I know you Fuentes shills like to demoralise and accuse others of being Jews because you're ashamed of being Indians, but it doesn't work on actual white people.

In case you didn't get the memo, she's just apologizing for tweeting. she's still didn't change her mind

>>103930441
>the guilt projecting faggot and the racially insecure faggot is the same britbong
Kek, grim
Pick a struggle my guy

>>103930530
Monkey says what?

>>103929436
iirc shondo (of all people) had the right idea satirize the porn addicts who can't stop cunnyposting and uoohing in every comment section

>>103930529
That's fine, people can dislike a thing I like and vice versa, that's pretty normal. What's not normal is attacking people for what they like.

>>103930529
Based desu

>>103930604
Very few people think like this in the modern world, unfortunately. The world would be a better place if more people were libertarians.

>>103930596
Her entire life is satire my friend. She is literally the EN Rushia, even admitting that her oshi is Rushia. Even the same faux pas as Rushia

>>103930663
>modern world
*western world
once you stop subscribing to the retarded "blame game" whitoid culture, you'd be much happier

>>103929146
i archive surfed and found out /lore/ was a thread and someone posted the holostars with hololive in a powerscaling tier list and no one gave a shit as opposed to the constant hate holostars get usually
point being that lore is awesome regardless of gender and vtubers should do more of it, especially since a lot of them might be grifting lolicons and pretending to like being an ethot. might as well do something they actually enjoy

>>103930709
True, the whole fiction = reality, is purely a deluded westoid thing.

>>103930709
You've complained about "whitoids" for many posts now. Where are you from?

>>103930604
>>103930741
they know of the saying "when in rome, do as romans do" yet hypocritically still fails to adhere to it

>falling for griftidoki again
I've given her enough chances to know she's in it for the money and absolutely despises her viewers.

>>103930670
which is why i find it surprising that she had the levelheaded take of "loli is ok but spamming crying emojis everywhere is annoying"

>>103927981 (OP)
Just damage control. Nothing against Chibi but thats all this is. I think she should have ignored the retards all crying about a 4 year old tweet and carried on.

>>103930817
I think she's a hypocrite, meanwhile other emojis are being spammed on Twitch nonstop.

>>103930836
And she doesn't say anything about them.

>>103927981 (OP)
I'm kinda surprised she was anti Loli with a model like that

>>103930596
>>103930817
Anyone who gets offended by something as innocuous as a literal crying emoji fails the vibe litmus test

chibidoki should release a 1:1 scale googly eyed retard model onahole hip

>>103928028
Once you come to realize that like 70% if not more of vtubers are complete tourists to the subculture, a lot of things will start to make more sense to you

>>103930836
Nta but I don't think she's a hypocrite. She's 100% a lolicon (during her early days she used to draw loli guro, not for money but just because she liked it). She just doesn't want people to be obnoxious- and she's not talking about stream emote spam but rather people spamming the crying emoji in reply to every tweet and every video.

>>103930670
Mikeneko is her boyfriend

>>103930932
We should put a big sign next to every vtuber saying 'grifters not welcome'. They're the ones responsible for the anti-unicorn anti-kayfabe shit.

>>103930947
I don't get how that's obnoxious. Is this a western thing? Feels like they're just making up shit to complain about.

>People who like anime lolis, who look so different from reality, must also be interested in real-life little girls!
>Just because I enjoy committing crimes and killing NPCs in a realistic-looking GTA game doesn't mean I want to commit crimes in real life.

This double standard. This is why I hate the Western way of thinking. I just like anime girls, and I love them equally, whether they're adults or lolis.
I have no interest in real women. To put it in simple terms for normies, to me having sex with a real woman/loli is like having sex with a monkey.
It's as stupid as the "They're the same picture" meme.
Understand the difference between reality and fiction, and appearance (attractiveness).

Chibidoki? Yucky!

>>103931040
>they're just making up shit to complain about.
big red flag ngl i'd stay away from anyone with this personality

>>103931040
You don't understand how people spamming the same thing over and over again in response to anything you post is obnoxious?

>>103927981 (OP)
I can't blame her, lolicons always complain about antis and all that shit but they behave like one when anyone don't like their fetish, anyone would just say they just don't like loli without expressing any threat to their community and they will take it personal to the point of sabotage the one that don't want to cater or validate their fetish, just like the antis behave toward them.
The worst part of that community is their victim complex, they always need to whine of how miserable they're for not being accepted and any simple comment about them can be considered an attack to their community.

>>103931096
It's no different from people saying lol and kek and poggers all the time. Literally being offended over nothing

>>103928243
instant death

>>103931125
But like I said, her issue isn't people using the emote in chat, her issue is with clippers and people constantly using the crying emote and saying uoh in response to anything she does.

>>103931120
No, we act like that when you call us pedos and try to dox us. It's not a "victim complex", we're simply defending ourselves from bad people.

>>103931178
Doesn't matter, even people here say lol, kek and based in response to anything people post. Being tunnel visioned to be against the whole crying emoji thing is nothing short of hypocrisy.

>>103928062
>>103928638
even the ones who do fanservice and haven't shown any sign of being anti-loli get called grifters, it's hard to take this sentiment seriously when /vt/ cunnyfags are so paranoid

>>103931208
we need to behead all the hypocrites

>>103931208
I really don't know how to explain to you that in the real world people spamming the same phrase or emjo over and over again is obnoxious. Maybe you're autistic and don't understand normal human interaction but most people don't appreciate constantly having the same things spammed at them.

>>103930529
>gotten older
She already looked old and fat with glasses that time one of her friends post a photo where she appeared, she looked like 29, how fucking old you need to be to realize these basic stuff

>>103928675
>lolicons themselves - Saba for example
Lol youre delusional. Saba is an ironic lolicon, same way there are ironic weebs. She just knows how to cater to audience that watches her, but she's not a lolicon.
You probably think Kiara is an idol fan too (and a lesbian).

>>103931428
I really don't know how to explain to you that in the real world people singling out the same phrase or emoji to anti, especially against your own fanbase and in favor of tourists, is hypocritical and obnoxious. Maybe you're autistic and don't understand normal human interaction but most people don't appreciate hypocrites.

See? The same principle applies here.

>>103927981 (OP)
Bullying works

Chibi is cute

>>103931448
>Saba is an ironic lolicon
So now we're pointing to pedophile inclinations? Now you need to be a pedophile to be a lolicon?

>>103931547
He's saying ironic, because Saba can separate reality from fiction. Unironic = Liking dark web stuff. It's one of their typical tactics.

>>103931428
cringe

>>103931428
i dunno man, but you're being very obnoxious with this post

>>103929137
She may not remember the exact words she used in the twitter post, but she definitely remembers she wrote a hypocritical tweet back then

>>103931498
She's not said she has a problem with the emoji or phrase, she's said she has an issue with people spamming it. Again if you can't understand why someone would be annoyed by that then you're probably autistic.

>>103927981 (OP)
>have strong opinion
>get offered a cheap figure depicting the thing you stand against
>accept it and kneel
spineless

>>103931693
Then the issue is with spamming and not the phrase, yet you still keep wording it as if the phrase itself is the issue. And based on what you've told me, she does single out the phrase itself as spam out of hypocrisy. I don't see her complaining about other emotes and phrases in a similar manner.

>>103931547
>Now you need to be a pedophile to be a lolicon?
Yes
That has always been the case

>>103931939
No it's not. Learn to separate reality from fiction, deep webber.
You're in our territory, not the deep web.

>>103931693
>>103931749
you both already know shondo (shitdo) is a grifting hypocrite. the same grifter who pretends to be an asexual virgin while secretly (publicly) being in a heterosexual relationship with her bf

>>103928101
Chibidoki made that tweet a few hours ago because she is now selling a figure of the sexualized version of her loli model. I am skeptical that her view of lolicons has actually improved but for obvious financial reasons she wants them to buy her merch. There is some hypocrisy in that she never toned down the sexualized design of her original model and is now attempting to earn money from selling a figure of it.

>>103928638
>If the only people who pander to lolicons are people who secretly dislike it and do it as a grift, then this field is a ticking timebomb.
Anon the harsh truth is none of these women actually like fans who get horny for a child like vtuber. Chibidoki went mask off about that but had years to release a modest outfit of her original design that could be used on merch. Shion actually left Hololive to have a modest design (Kurageu Roa) and that is even more of an option for an indie vtuber.

>>103931547
>>103931573
>lolicon =pedo
pls out and stay out, and then kill yourselves

>>103931984
Hey man I'm on your side. I don't agree with the tourist unironic fags. Let's keep 2D as 2D.

>>103931749
She singled out because that's what keeps being spammed at her.
>>103931975
I'm not a shondophrenic, I just occasionally watch her. I couldn't care less about her relationship status.

>thread about lolis
>nobody posting lolis
>not even illya
smdhtbqhwyfampaitachidess

>>103932054
>illya
She is an Hebe, not a loli

>>103932054
>complaining about not posting lolis
>doesn't post a loli

>>103932072
That's why I said "even".

>>103932047
>She singled out because that's what keeps being spammed at her.
This makes no sense because streamers gets spammed with plenty of phrases and emotes all the time, and still doesn't explain nor are there any other examples of her doing this otherwise apart from this crying emoji. You're just being disingenuous now, and possibly now feigning ignorance about her to save face.

>>103932091
Can't save those who don't want to be saved or just phone it in.

>>103932054
the only loli I watch(ed) is in pre-debut hell for her new corpo gig and might not even be loli any more

>>103927981 (OP)
I hope ppl poke at her and ask why she think loli is okay now, those answers are always funny.

Unrelated to the OP topic, I do agree that anti-crying emoji fags are far more annoying and far more obnoxious than the ones who post them
Like dude, no one asked for your opinion nor are you being paid to ruin other people's fun, like could you please fuck off?

>>103932213
uh oh don't tell the grifters or they'll keep adding more things to whine about

>>103932105
>You're just being disingenuous
I'm really not trying to be. She's said she's tired of the same things being spammed at her in twitter and YT replies, she doesn't have an issue with the emoji or the phrase being spammed in chat. Just imagine you were a person making some innocuous comment and suddenly all of your replies were crying emojis. Wouldn't you be annoyed?

>>103927981 (OP)
This bitch knows where the money comes from. Now bring the model back you little shit. Not sure why she made thag ugly model her brand now, fucking horrible idea.

Anyone who apologizes is a person who turned to good in my book and they deserve all the praise they could get

It takes a lot of courage to acknowledge your mistakes and apologize to thousands of people and I applaude them for that

Alright bros now that we have Chibi's blessing who are some sexy child vtubers we should goon to?

>>103928028
IM NOT A LOLI IM A CHIBI TEE HEE ;)

>>103932329
There's an entire general for that. Unfortunately it's infested by schizos.

>>103928028
Because they commissioned the model because they thought little girls are cute not because they want to rape them.
Then a bunch of pedos harass them and try to groom them and a bunch of closet pedos harass them to try and convince everyone they aren't pedos.

>>103932303
>She's said she's tired of the same things being spammed at her in twitter and YT replies
I actually don't know if you're being honest or not, or if you're an anti pretending to be a fan, just to smear her name. Personally, I've never seen Shondo complain about the crying emoji at all. I don't watch her, but I keep close tabs to a lot of clippers and her fans.
>Just imagine you were a person making some innocuous comment and suddenly all of your replies were crying emojis. Wouldn't you be annoyed?
No. Because I'm not mentally ill enough to be annoyed by seeing innocuous emojis in innocuous comments, especially if it's to show appreciation as to how cute someone is.

>>103932411
I'm too drunk to be bothered finding the clip, but she's directly spoken out on stream about being annoyed at the constant crying emoji spam. Like I said in a comment above I'm not a shondophrenic but I'm not an anti either - I enjoy occasionally watching her.
>I'm not mentally ill enough to be annoyed by seeing innocuous emojis in innocuous comments
When you see them all the time under everything you produce, can you not understand why that would be annoying?

Reminder this is the kind of people that are harassing chibidoki right now, never feel shame of calling out their bullshit. She just tolerate the lolicons, not cater them

>>103927981 (OP)
It's all just attention seeking and you all retards are falling for it, the original amti loli shit was and now she's farming it again.

>>103932528
I support the drawing of loli and I support loli vtubers, I don't enjoy that myself but I support the freedom to do it.

I hate IRL children.

So what does that make me?

>>103928028
It used to be popular to hate lolis, now that vtubers are more of a niche again (still not a niche) it's more popular not to be amti loli.

>>103928733
It's not about believing. I stopped watching after her loli stance when at the same time she was revealing new outfit.
People who don't care will just shrug and move along, nobody will come back and start watching here again after her backtracking on it

Stagnant bitch is desperate, now blatantly pandering to the pedophiles
Never trust women they just want money

>>103932590
It makes you a reasonable person.

Also the image on that post smells of actual pedo trying to muddy the waters

>>103931547
No , ironic lolicon means she's just acting in away that makes her appealing to lolicons and rolls with the memes, she's not a lolicon herself at all. She's not oggling lolis or collects loli figurines or faps to loli hentai or watches loli anime, She's not a lolicon at all, only ironic lolicon when she streams.

>>103927981 (OP)
>I'm sorry I got caught
Lol

>>103927981 (OP)
Fair enough

>>103932528
>watched 400 manga
Are there lolifags who are actually anime watchers? All of the good shit is in manga, the anime tones it down every time for ironic 'loli'fags. I have watched maybe 8 anime before my tastes developed enough to leave that casual shit behind.

>>103929781
best post

>>103931208
and that's retarded as well, posting just to show your affirmation is stupid

>>103933495
No, as you've said, the best stuff is in manga/doujinshi

>>103932406
>>103933495
>>103932679
>>103932528
My hobby is not your costume

Stop hamfisting your darkweb bullshit on anime. Kill yourself

>>103933798
Are you retarded?
He's pointing the fact that she's a hypocrite, you're totally missing the point. If those are retarded as well, then where are her complaints about it? She's specifically attacking her own fanbase to encourage antis even moreso. Punishing your own fans and rewarding people who hate you to encourage hating you even more is not a good look.

>>103933798 (me)
on top of that, "lol" is three letters, the mentally stunted sobbers i'm talking about spam 15x emojis whenever anything mildly cute happens

>>103933954
wait how insane actually are shondo's fans? i don't mind the guys that actually have working brain functions, but sometimes people can't even manage that and i see crying emojis flooding the comment section with no commentary whatsoever
i don't watch shondo only saw the "plap plap cunny sex" clip

>>103933972
>it's le bad because it's not lol
>despite the fact that a ton of other emotes are spammed far worse
So you're just a mentally ill autist then

>>103928028
She said it's based off of her IRL proportions. She's that small IRL, supposedly

>>103931970
If you masturbate to drawings of men fucking each other you're still a faggot. The medium is irrelevant to categorization; all that matters in the end is the content.

>>103934089
i've had arguments that this is not the case funnily enough

>>103932502
>can you not understand why that would be annoying?
No, because again I'm not mentally ill nor autistic. Likewise, can you not understand why you're being annoying/obnoxious right now?

>>103934031
the uoh spammers are just typical vtuber fans that hammer one joke into the ground until it's atomized, she used to have more insane fans but most of them moved on or turned into antis when she got too big to groom

>>103927981 (OP)
thats cool
her model is a very ugly monstrosity tho so it's a bit late to try and court that audience now

>>103932528
upvoted!

>>103934089
Bad strawman.
Drawings of lolis and drawings of actual kids are very different. Kids look like kids, and lolis look like lolis. If you say lolis look like kids you have brain damage. That's like saying monkeys and humans look exactly the same.

>>103927981 (OP)
I guess she is probably being genuine since from what I’ve seen her fans are a bunch of normalfags and she could easily score brownie points with them by doubling down, but idk

>>103928733
Nah she still a grifter.
She release that apology just when she started to sell her figure.
If she hate lolis so much why she didn't just release her retarded model version, but bigger?
Money >integrity i guess.

>>103934160
i don't get why you tards call it a joke when it's more of an expression as opposed to a joke
that's like saying "cute!" and "lol" is a joke, what is wrong with you men

>>103930901
It's not the emoji that turns non-lolicons off, its the context. Everyone knows what you're doing, don't be coy about this.

>>103934031
She has easily the worst split on this entire board. They barely even talk about her. They just circlejerk over discord and namefags and completely off topic shit. Wish we could euthanize every IP in there.

>>103934343
And the context is, anyone who is not a lolicon and does not mind their own business should kill themselves

Another example of why no one should ever apologize on the internet.

>>103934418
Why? Because it makes you feel bitter that someone can actually be happy unlike you? lol

>>103934386
>circlejerk over discord and namefags and
lemme guess it's because someone "got closer" to shondo and there's seethe about it
or /shon/ can't even be that coherent and they're truly attacking random people for no reason?

>>103934270
Because she doesn't hate lolis. She was grifting by pandering the antis back then, but negative press does not work when your business is entertainment, not news.

>>103934169
Am I gay if I get off to this? Yes or no answers only.

>>103933327
She bought several loli figurines, she talked about it in some member streams

>>103934485
No. Because only you yourself can decide your sexuality. You could be a transbian, gay or a lesbian, that's none of my concern. Something you retards fail at, every time.

>>103934485
Are females gay when they fap to yaoi? Are males transbians when they fap to yaoi? Are you demigender when you fap to yaoi? Are you pansexual when you fap to yaoi?
Stop asking these retarded questions.

>>103934169
I don't know how you people can admit to getting turned on by doujins of explicit grade schoolers in sukumizus getting their assholes stretched by their teacher over their school desks while their randoserus slap against their naked backs, and claim with a straight face not to be pedophiles. Maybe you won't harm real children. Maybe. That's a good thing if you don't, but don't try and pretend that you aren't what you say you aren't.

>>103934583
For the same reason people can shoot and kill in video games without flinching nor being a psychopath. If you can't understand that, you have brain damage.

>>103934583
Because attraction to lolis equates to repulsion to real kids. Simple as.

Brainlets could never understand the bliss of being able to separate reality from fiction because their brain is broken.

Lying bitch now that money is on the line, get fucked cunt

>>103927981 (OP)
This is what pedo normalisation looks like. Their initial reaction was the correct one, not their opinion after years of corruption and degeneration

>>103934521
>Because only you yourself can decide your sexuality
You literally can't lmao
>>103934578
Are you gay when you fap to lesbian porn? What kind of retarded questioning is this? This is actually disingenuous.

>>103934736
>You literally can't lmao
Yes you can. Why otherwise? Are you in favor of grooming kids their sexuality?
>What kind of retarded questioning is this?
Your question was retarded in the first place and was a complete reductionist to all the other genders and colloquialism that even females use.

>>103934637
>>103934699
Modern day lolicons are so paranoid about their depraved fetish being exposed that they'll resort to all sorts of mental gymnastics and whataboutisms to justify its existence. Meanwhile you had OG lolicon otaku buying middle-schooler photobooks without a hint of shame. Kind of fucked but at least they didn't have any delusions about who they were.

>>103934131
>I'm not mentally ill nor autistic
I'm sorry but I think you probably are if you think spamming the same thing over and over anon is fine.
>can you not understand why you're being annoying/obnoxious right
I'm just responding to your comments, so no it's not obnoxious.

>>103934826
Nice revisionist bullshit you got there, dark webber. Even a weeb game that was posted here >>103933832 easily proves you wrong

>>103934817
I think anyone who isn't a disingenuous retard will tell you that if you are a man and get turned on by yaoi you are either gay or bisexual at the very least. Ditto with a woman and yuri. Now maybe you can say that you simply appreciate the fine human form. Nothing wrong with that; Golden Kamuy is one of the most bara hyper-gay manga in the mainstream and the mangaka is married with a wife and kids afaik. But if you get titillated by drawings of men as a "straight" man then you are gay (or bi).

>>103934699
>I exclusively jerk off to gay boys sucking dick, it's fictional so it means I actually hate gay shit in real life

>>103934886
>>103934908
Lol, now you're just making shit up that wasn't said. Is being dishonest the only thing dark webbers have in an attempt to cotton ceiling every sexuality?

>>103934863
>Even a weeb game that was posted here easily proves you wrong
Why should I give a damn what some character (who seems to be a coping lolicon in denial) in some random VN has to say?

>>103934886
>>103934908
Sexuality is different from sexual preferences. It's not even a close argument.

>>103934934
>Lol, now you're just making shit up that wasn't said
You're the only one that's bringing up the dark web here lol. Got skeletons in your closet?

>>103934886
>>103934908
>if you like women, that must mean you also be attracted female monkeys too because they share a lot of human features!

>>103931190
>pedos mad when they get called what they are
ok??? piece of shit whinny bitch scum

>>103934934
>>103934966
>>103934992
I don't know why you felt like replying thrice but I got under your skin so I win the argument lmao

>>103934976
>>103935015
>coping after being called out
See, now you're forced to reply, dark webber.

>>103935015
That doesn't answer the question lmao
> Is being dishonest the only thing dark webbers have in an attempt to cotton ceiling every sexuality?

>>103935062
Reply meant for post >>103934976

>>103934856
So you really can't see why not minding your own business is obnoxious
What an autistic faggot

Nyanners silence is deafining

>>103934992
Kek, what kind of stupid pretzel logic is this. The reason you find fictional characters attractive is because they are fictional representations of the thing you are actually attracted to. real sexual preference comes before fictional, not after. An alteration in fictional preference requires the same shift in actual preferences.

>>103935169
And attraction to lolis have been found to be completely separate from minors, which you can't help but cope and deny despite the fact

>>103934520
of her own character, wow what a shock.

>>103935169
>Kek, what kind of stupid pretzel logic is this.
That's the logic that every person who can't separate reality from fiction spout. That's why they're stupid and retarded, because their belief is based on lies.

>>103934454
Its just typical discord faggot shit where they constantly namedrop people and bring discord drama into threads like anyone gives a fuck. Everytime I go there I'm reminded why I left in the first place.

>>103927981 (OP)
Fucking LMAO she liked my tweet
Did she even read what I wrote?

>>103935003
Yet we don't see fags like you calling out Hollywood or the government

>>103935192
It has been proven over and over again to be a massive red flag for pedophillia. We literally have a high profile Vtuber loli artist being arrested a month ago for fucking kids, as if it's a surprise to anyone there's an iron link between the two.

There is a huge difference between a cute cartoon character and jerking off to it or depicting them as sexually attractive, you hide behind the former while encouraging the latter

>>103935277
She truly is based now. I like her
I hope we can develop this relationship further

>>103935296
>source: my buttplug
lole
More dishonest ramblings

>>103935296
>It has been proven over and over again
you should be able to post some proof then

>>103928638
>It's pure greed and short term profit seeking.
News flash retard you live in a system that incentivizes that at every turn

>>103935296
The thing is he didn't even draw lolis, he drew BIG TITS. It's funny how the big tit fags are always the ones who get outed, not the lolicons.

>>103935277
Wtf

>>103935345
Because they're overcompensating. I would trust lolicons over the fags who keep trying to convince everyone that they are "normal" every single time

>>103934730
>This is what pedo normalisation looks like. Their initial reaction was the correct one, not their opinion after years of corruption and degeneration
Chibidoki had years to release a more modest outfit for her loli model she only wants lolicons to buy her merch. Not really a shock considering the degenerate vtuber market but is hypocritical. Lolicons want validation so they will believe her apology tweet.

>>103935296
>>103935345
>We literally have a high profile Vtuber loli artist being arrested
Who? I didn't know about this.

>>103935345
Unless it's another artist he literally drew some Hentai that another guy used as inspiration to rape an actual kid. Yet here you are pretending it wasn't loli shit.

Pedo normalisation is one of the most disgusting parts of Vtuber culture which is saying alot because it's fundamentally fucked on so many levels.

>>103935398
Imagine being this bitter that people can actually be happy and be forgiven

>>103935277
Please tell me this is a sign that she'll use her loli model again

>>103935451
Aquas artist

>>103935451
He's talking about Sakuna's PL artist, which ironically drew big tits for it, not lolis. He's lying.

>>103935398
Exactly. She needs to apologize because she wants the money, but she hasn’t changed her mind. She’s explicitly saying she still thinks lolicons are freaks, but she’ll keep quiet so she won’t hurt their feelings (and they won’t hurt her wallet).

>>103927981 (OP)
Don't care what she has to say. I enjoyed her back when she was trying to entertain/talk with chat and used the old loli model. Ever since she dropped the og loli model and switched to the current chibi/whatever you call shit model she's just annoying. Feels like she's trying to cater to middle schoolers/kids both in looks and stuff she says.

>>103935456
> Yet here you are pretending it wasn't loli shit.
Because it wasn't loli at all.
Nice fanfictions there. Stop fucking lying dark web fag.

>>103935480
>OH PLEASE I NEED TO GOON TO HER LOLI MODEL UUUOOOHHH
This is why the majority of the Vtubers choose to not even give single pandering to lolis

>>103935638
And yet those Vtubers are ready to chill merch of their loli models

>>103935638
Some reality check for you. Women overall are more prone to being pedo (all the stories about female teachers fucking kids) but nobody treats it seriously and boys probably like it anyways.
Another reality check for you is that not a single vtuber stopped using loli avatar / art because they somehow changed, all of them stopped loli stuff because of twitter warrios and normies shitting on them for that and loli vtubers having women brain getting too stressed/pressured by that and abandoning loli stuff under it / makin anti-loli posts.

>>103935638
Majority of vtubers are lolis now lol
You've been living under a rock, it's not only her selling her Loli figurine.

Tanya, Nina, even Shizukou went back to being loli, NSFW Shibi turned loli, even Krumroll is selling her lewd loli daki, you have Delulu doing erotic loli ASMR too, Phase as well with members doing loli ver. of themelves, I could go on and on.

Loli pandering you could see on billboards and restaurants these days, games being sold on online gaming platforms are erotic lolis, heck I just saw the most popular gacha Uma Musume doing some loli compilation for their next events

It's a total loli domination globally, and the world is healing.

>>103936166
Ok nigga, no one cares and no one asked for your life story. Ain't reading allat

>>103928545
Ey now, some people might be into being shittalked, but I have the overwhelming urge to knock the lights out of anyone and everyone trying to shittalk me, the people I look up to, or my friends

>>103935140
Given the fact you still seem not to understand how constantly spamming someone is annoying, I'm going to assume that you are in fact autistic - and the fact you're responding angrily to me is just a consequence of your dysgenic existence.

Lolicon is pedophilia, always has been
Retarded ass ironic lolicon tourists

>>103935511
>She’s explicitly saying she still thinks lolicons are freaks
>source: the voices in my head

lmao she doesn't even say loli in this, fucking 2 faced bitch just like every other western whore that latched onto vtubing

>>103927981 (OP)
We, the VT of 4Channel, officially forgive you. Chibidoki!

>>103936334
Between the weird surge in anti-pron, anti-sex among da yout's to boomers/gen-x happy to roll back established protections on free speech, she's kind of fucked right now. I also expect more vtubers to try and walk a line where they don't piss off the hardcore weeb fanbase while also trying to get as close to Overton window as they can.

>>103938186
>>103930529

>>103938179
The site itself, the original owner (moot) and other moderators (w.t. snacks) had loli mascots. Sorry, but the retarded one is you, pol tourist

>>103930604
What is not normal is using a blatant pedobait avatar and then being mad about attracting pedos

>>103938613
>the pedophile admins had pedo avatars
No shit
You are the only tourist here, ironic lolicon.

>>103927981 (OP)
That's not walking back. That's called growing as a person. You should try it some time.

>>103938747
So you spend hours of your day on a pedo website? I would seriously consider leaving, never coming back, and scrambling your hard drive. Stay safe out there

>>103935465
Anon do you think it's a coincidence Chibidoki apologized to lolicons at the same time she released pedobait merch? What I don't get is why she would even release figure merch for a loli model that she no longer uses.

>>103938613
This site was crawling with pedophiles and CP when /l/ existed to the point where this shithole became known as a FBI honeypot for it.
The attempt by "modern" lolicons to separate loli from pedophilia is retarded.

>>103938806
Why wouldn't I. You are the ironic lolicon tourist, not me.

No hate to Chibi but I had to make this

>>103928573
In this hobby?
From a non-corpo account?
yeah

>>103927981 (OP)
>>103928481
>>103928733
>>103930529
so
>still doesn't like loli and doesn't want to be referred to as a loli, but will not say you need to be thrown into a woodchipper now for edgy jokes

honestly, since she has gone into the rare children's entertainer route, it's probably the safest thing she can do PR wise
it was always dumb for any of these weeb tourists to come into the hobby and start talking about people needing to die over chinese cartoons they don't like

>>103928733
...she's confessing to being a wrong and being honest.
That's incredibly refreshing.
Dunno if I'll check her content out because of it, but gotta respect that.

>>103931448
I'm hardly a saba fan but this sounds like HEAVY copium. But sure. The girl who's had multiple loli models throughout her time vtubing is doing it "ironically". Okay!

>>103929501
non brits saying nonce is a weird and cringe recent trend

>>103938613
>the original owner (moot) and other moderators (w.t. snacks) had loli mascots
No shit, dude. They were pedophiles. Back then there was no distinction between lolicon and pedo. They even had a loli board before the posters, who were lolicons themselves before you start arguing about false flags, kept spamming CP and the board had to be taken down. One of the older loli memes (salty coins and milk) was taken from a fan translation of an infamous loli doujin (pomf) which in turn was a reference to one of the more notorious hardcore CP videos that would get regularly posted /b/ and /l/ (which I will not expound on).

>>103940522
Or... hear me out... she's doing it because she finds the models cute, not sexy, and because they appeal to her majority male audience. A far cry from being a lolicon (having a sexual "complex" for lolis)