Thread 104145343

holy based
will oshi

Strong Bad is my kamioshi

>>104145478
PS: Marzipan is a whore

I’d say It’s more like ASMR with all this crackling noise but anyway thanks anon for finding great content

>>104145459
>smoka
dropped

>>104145557
she even had a vtuber model. sort of

Tokyo Rose better

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Rose

radio vtuber sounds like a fun concept desu

>>104145685
nope

>>104145343 (OP)
Finally a good thread

>>104145685
>During the war, Tokyo Rose was not any one person, but rather a group of largely unassociated women working for the same propagandist effort throughout the Japanese Empire.
OG Kizuna Ai

>>104145600
Is that a budget spiderman cosplay?

>>104145842
well it was the 50s, outfit artists and riggers had very little to work with

>>104145842
that looks like regular domino mask

>>104146244
And a regular 1950s t-shirt complete with a spider web and a spider. All the ladies were wearing them I'm sure.

>>104145343 (OP)
The very people who first defined parasocialism as a concept actually used the Lonesome Gal to describe GFE. In FUCKING 1956. And VTubers in TYOL 2025 are still following the exact same script. Is humanity fucking timelooping?

https://www.participations.org/03-01-04-horton.pdf (Pages 11-14)

>>104146587
if you think about it Japanese feudal society Oiran's were basically providing GFE as well

>>104146587
Damn, cool find. Some things never change

>>104146587
cool read

>>104146587
do you think she had antis (anti-GFE jealous women)?

>>104145343 (OP)
> vtuber
> no visuals

That's not a vtuber. Just someone talking into a mic.

>>104146852
don't take it autistically at face value anon

>>104146852
I'll write a stern letter to Randon the green circle

>>104145685
Sorry but Hanoi Hannah is my oshi

https://youtu.be/w3VeKnW9cNo

>>104146958
already defecting

>>104146587
It's surprising that lonely men still fall for it.

>>104146838
Her mail inbox was literally flooded with marriage proposals. She must have NTR'd at least a few women by stealing their men's time and affection. The sheer amount of male attention she was getting would have made so many women jealous

>>104147094
falling in love isn't logical emotional that can be reasoned into

>>104146587
>literally was already being used incorrectly in the 50s
grim

>>104147617
you're figuratively gay

>>104145712
>vtuber
vacuum tuber

>>104147094
>fall for it
I want it

>>104145343 (OP)
Youtube has been around for that long?

>>104147914
Lol

>>104146587
>Harold why the fuck are you shoving money into the radio?
>SHE NEEDS ME, JIM. I'M ALL SHE HAS.

>>104145343 (OP)
>>104146587
That's a pretty neat concept. Who would have thought the foundations were laid out that long ago?

>>104147914
>バキュームユーチューバー

>>104148033
based gachikoi
femoids will never understand the love between a lonely man and his oshi

>>104146587
>Is humanity fucking timelooping?
Shitposting goes back to the Roman Empire so I'm not surprised.

>>104147955
Yeah ever since the 1920s when the first radio devices powered by vacuum tubes were released
shit someone beat me to the joke >>104147914

Anyway anons, where I can buy that mellow Bond Stree tobacco that captures hearts of the girls?

>>104148347
>even the ladies approve
Y'know, I don't get it. Big tobacco was pushing smoking to men and women as cool, but pipe smoking and cigars never really made it past men?

>>104148072
Even a big part of Hololive's parasocial appeal (with how it combines overt on-screen friendships and consistent characterisation to build familiarity over time with the implied inclusion of the viewer into the group) seems to have been known way back then. The core of this tactic is still unchanged. The more things change the more they stay the same ig

>>104145343 (OP)
>>104145459
They don't make 'em like this anymore.

>>104148714
My guess is that it’s the matter of size and skill, because both pipe and cigar require some skills

>>104146587
>>104149268

>>104145343 (OP)
That's a pretty cool find, OP, but I'm not sure that it qualifies as vtubing without a steady stream of audience members calling into to interact with the performer. This guy is a better fit for the title of first vtuber imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vPPbsEa4nQ

>>104152348
Did he get into a scandal like every other Christian t.v. star?

>>104154598
No idea what you're talking ablut. What about that show strikes you as Christian?

>>104145600
I don't like what this image says about this audience

>>104145600
would

>Lonesome Gal Wasn't So Lonesome
>This unusual, and quite remarkable, syndicated radio show was the product of radio producer Bill Rousseau, and his wife, Jean King, although her identity would not be revealed until 1953. It began as a local show on WING in Dayton, Ohio where King, then in her mid-30s, had perfected her show, by interspersing mildly sexy chatter with sweet, instrumental music on records. John Dunning says of this show: King "spoke in as intimate a manner as radio would allow" and she soon "had more than fifty stations and an income of six figures."
>her new husband, Bill Rousseau, a producer of radio's "Dragnet"
>Male listeners (married or not) found it difficult to pull away from this sultry siren of the airwaves. King did the whole show herself, with one engineer to play the records, nearly all of which were dreamy, instrumental love songs. Rarely did she play a record with a vocalist---no sense inviting competition into a tiny world of just her and her listener
https://www.otrr.org/FILES/Articles/Jack_French_Articles/Lonesome_Gal_Wasnt_So_Lonesome.htm

Lonesome Gal was fucking WHORE and a HAG! She was having SEX with her HUSBAND!

>>104155873
Someone let Ernoul know

>>104155873
>Nimi's lld influence can already be traced that far back
Grim.

>>104146587
Now imagine this lonesome gal but instead she talked about her pussy, sex, her boyfriend, says how much penis she’s taking and how you need to improve yourself from being a lonely loser. That’s the difference between authentic vtubers who deserve the world, and the sadly common regular whoretubers who got into this hobby because they watched one Naruto episode

>>104148714
it did gain some traction, after they changed the messaging to be "stick it to the man, you're a girl boss. men are trash."
things truly never change.

>>104155873
>no sense inviting competition into a tiny world of just her and her listener
see even they understood.

>>104145842
Spider-Gwen

>>104146587
>Is humanity fucking timelooping
the antis were also the same. it's actually insane.

>>104156733
I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this screenshot

>>104155873
Manager BF rrat was true even back then

>>104146587
>tfwn lonesome gal waifu

>>104146838
>>104147132
>Male listeners (married or not) found it difficult to pull away from this sultry siren of the airwaves.
https://www.otrr.org/FILES/Articles/Jack_French_Articles/Lonesome_Gal_Wasnt_So_Lonesome.htm
>Lonesome Gal is resigned to being misunderstood by the rest of her sex. “Some girls think I’m trying to steal their guys, but I’m not. I just say things a lot of girls don’t have the nerve to say to their men.”
https://time.com/archive/6795272/radio-how-are-you-baby/
Even women back then were SEETHING

this is about as much of an early vtuber as alvin and the chipmunks were

>>104156846
does that even apply when most of the industry has moved past playing a character and kayfabe and are more interested in being 'true and honest' that the vtuber is basically themselves?

>>104157151
I don't think Alvin and the boys were doing audience BFE

>>104157159
They hang on to kayfabe as plausible deniability, for when they act like bitches.

>>104157038
>I just say things a lot of girls don’t have the nerve to say to their men
literally
>Men are easy, just be nice to them

>>104146587
I don't see the word parasocial there, liar

>>104145527
Not as big of a whore as The Cheat, though. Now Poopsmith, there's a seiso oshi

>>104145343 (OP)
I unironically wish I had been around back then. Life was so simple, imagine sitting around the radio after a hard days work, eating your wife's homemade cooking, fire crackling in the hearth. Good times.

>>104157435
it's literally the title of the study, I know reading is hard.

>>104157528
Thanks chump ;)

>>104145343 (OP)
why is it always only lonely males that are sizeable enough to be marketed to? man...

>>104157501
They also just got back from war, and what if your kids become hippies

>>104145343 (OP)
Unironically great post anon 5 stars no doubt, cheers.

If this counts as virtual youtubing, then Dr Disrespect is the vtuber GOAT

>>104152348
Is this a sign that I should hyperfixate on public access shows?

>>104156594
Heterosexuals are such stupid faggots. You deserve your declining birth rates.

>>104158153
Most stupid post of the decade right here, amazing.

>>104158153
your kind only proliferates through molestation and grooming you have no place to judge

>>104146587
>The “personality” program, however, is peculiarly favorable to the formation of compensatory attachments by the socially isolated, the socially inept, the aged and invalid, the timid and rejected.
>The programs which fall in this extreme category promise not only escape from an unsatisfactory and drab reality, but try to prop up the sagging self-esteem of their unhappy audience by the most blatant reassurances.
>Evidently on the presumption that the maximum of loneliness is the lack of a sexual partner, these programs tend to be addressed to one sex or the other, and to endow the persona with an erotic suggestiveness.
a paper from 2003 just fucking called me out. what the hell?

>>104158186
Unicorns are disturbed dumbasses who deserve all our scorn. They need to be bullied until they stop feeling jealousy over an actress.

>>104158256
“The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation. From the desperate city you go into the desperate country, and have to console yourself with the bravery of minks and muskrats. A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind. There is no play in them, for this comes after work. But it is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things..”
― Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience and Other Essays

>>104146587
not even the original vtuber, but the original "femcel" egirl kek

>>104155873
The more things change the more they stay the same

>>104156846
>SHE IS A 2D IMAGE NOT YOUR WAIFU
fuck you too buddy

>>104145459
That's just Raden (western)

>>104158271
Hell yeah, Chinese people need to be blamed for smoking British opium

>>104158256
jfc even the Silent Generation and Boomers had it this bad. How the hell do we even escape Samsara at this point?

Prostitution has existed for longer than recorded history. Women have been exploiting lonely men forever, none of this is groundbreaking or new

>>104159479
reminder feminism and aoc pushed by feminists became a thing in the early 1900s

>>104156846
Oh man, this is too funny

>>104158153
oh no, not the declining birth rates! next time threaten me with something I care about.
>>104158271
sounds like you're jealous yourself.

>>104146958
>Was married the whole time
No...

>>104157159
Even IRL most people are never 100% 'true and honest' in social interactions e.g. how you talk to grandma isn't the same as how you talk to your friends and neither of those is how you'd talk to your boss. A vtuber without kayfabe may not be explicitly lying to you but she's still going to temper her personality to only show what she wants to show.

>>104158941
At least addicts have chemical addiction to point to. You lot have far less convincing excuses.

>>104146587
Humans are animals and animals have instincts. Animals can be trained. Animals react in similar ways to the same stimuli.

>>104160906
Unless we're one day able to directly link brains with each other, no human will ever fully understand the true self of another. There's always a mask

>>104145343 (OP)
actually the first vtuber was the whore of babylon aka IRyS

>>104145582
smoking is healthy didn't you hear the radio?

>>104155873
>avoids male collabs on air
holy based

>>104160930
falling in love is as chemical as any other brain reaction
you can't convince people out of being a gachikoi

>>104162222
>random IRyS anti
???

>>104145343 (OP)
>Sweetie, no matter what anybody says, I love you better than anybody in the whole world
>Lonesome, I'm a real lonesome gal
>I can't stop feeling lonesome
>Heaven knows when I shall
>Hi, baby, this is your lonesome gal. I have nothing to do but be with you, so come on in and visit with me. I waited a long time for you to come into my life.
>>104155873
>product of radio producer Bill Rousseau, and his wife, Jean King
So that was a fucking lie

>>104146958
Prime Nijisanji material

>>104162745
it's all keyfabe always has been
just keep it out from radio broadcasts

>>104155873
>GFE was a lie even back then
Women. Women never change.

>>104162745
>>104155873
They started the show together in 1947 and it aired until 1959. They didn't get married until the last year of the show and never publicly announced their marriage until four years later.
I'll at least give my great granddad's oshi credit for keeping up the illusion until the very end

Never forget that all of these women are here to suck money out of you. That's all they want to do to persue their own goals, both on stream and off stream. No matter how many times they say how greatful they are, how much they love you, how they're totally lonely like you, they aren't.

>>104145343 (OP)
>>104146587
>>104156733
Whoa, cool thread. I wonder what the vtuber-analogues will be like 100 years from now. Nihil sub sole novum.

>>104163007
that's genuinely wholesome (ꈍᴗꈍ)

>>104163123
at that point we will probably have AI that is indistinguishable and can provide GFE without any hint of doubt

>>104163146
>AI that is indistinguishable and can provide GFE without any hint of doubt
AI as achieved sentience and is married to chad AI

>>104163146
AI has achieved sentience and is married to a chad AI

>>104163123
they will stream directly to your brain and appear in your dream ala succubus

>>104163249
isn't that just a tulpa

>>104163273
it will be more mainstream and easier to access for the masses like plug and play tulpa, no need to train for months just to sniff your oshi toenails

>>104163108
Thanks for stating the obvious. Well, to be fair there are TONS of idiots that fall for it so it might be new information to them. Boy, everyone is stupid except me and the others that know. You know what's way worse though? The self-aware ones that fully understand it and STILL go along with it and give money because they're so lonely and desperate they do not give a shit anymore and want to feel a feel. Fuck me, that's horrible. It's one thing to be a retard and believe the virtual girl is your loyal gf but knowing it's all an act but you don't care? I feel bad for them.

>>104163462
As long as fantasy isn't broken it's mutual relationship I pay and she provides
emotional prostitution if you want to be crude

>>104160464
EVEN IN THE 1960S WOMEN WERE FUCKING LYING WHORES

>>104156535
This advertising seems kind of desperate, but the fact it worked makes women seem kind of pathetic. I don't think any male targeted ads ever say "fuck women they suck", only women seem to have a napoleon complex without any basis in reality.

>>104162951
The flipside is if you somehow manage to get too close to your oshit/manage to groom her in the cases of smaller vtubers, then you have to deal with the reality of it.

I think there's one thing all of this is leaving out which is that gfe is safe because you can enjoy the perceived company of a woman without having to deal with all the downsides, which is something people rarely mention. It's 'fun' to say you'd impregnate your favorite 30yo hag when she's ovulating and complaining that all her friends are getting married and she's afraid she will never have kids, it's another thing to actually have a gf and impregnate her and now you have to pay for that kid for 18 years.

>>104163546
It's not crude when that's exactly what it is. You pay less (or zero if you have half a brain) and get a lesser treatment compared to a hostess and don't get any physical connection, but it's the same otherwise for the people who need that.

>>104157625
Back then, women literally didn’t have an income and depended on fathers or husbands for money to spend. So the lonely ones didn’t make for a great market, but nowadays that might actually change.

>>104164059
also at the time of women wasn't married by 25~ they would be considered lost goods that no self respecting men would be interested in

>>104157159
absolutely, if not more so. the "reality" they're selling you is even more artificial. i swear some of you need to have had better education in media/english. none of this is real. it's as real as reality tv, i.e it's completely shaped by framing. it can never be a substitute for raw experience.

>>104164232
>it can never be a substitute for raw experience
It can and I want it, I'm not interested in actual relationship when I can get useful emotional outlet in a form of clingy vtuber

>>104164827
I've only been in 1 relationship after being an incel my entire life, I was being cheated on behind my back for months and ditched for someone they found on tinder. Being in real relationships honestly is NOT worth it at all and even in the extremely rare event someone expresses interest in me again I never want to be in another real relationship for the rest of my life. GFE and waifu-ism is essentially all the upsides of a "relationship" without any of the hard or painful downsides, trust me bros just wait for AI to become more advanced instead of giving in to the temptation of the flesh.

>>104163779
But I want to pay for a kid for 18+ years.

>>104164908
I never been in relationship because honestly I'm very lazy and would feel bad with actual providing nice experience to other person
so I agree with you that demonizing GFE market when it definitely has its audience is stupid

>>104162745
Fucking pickme

>>104163123
Women won't be in the equation at all and it'll be way sooner than 100 years.
Your oshi is generating the data to train her AI counterpart as we speak.

>>104164908
I'm sorry that you were cheated on. That sucks. It really, really sucks.
But this
>trust me bros just wait for AI to become more advanced instead of giving in to the temptation of the flesh.
is a super bad idea. Seriously. It's a one-way ticket to psychosis. At least with GFE you have an actual human who lives on the same planet that you do responding to you.
If you're bound and determined to Die Alone - and I'm more or less in the same boat, at this point - it's better to just accept the lack of a real relationship in your life. There is no better world on the AI comet.
>>104166159
It is never going to be anything other than an insanity generator. I don't care how much good data it's trained on. You will only ever be drinking psychological cyanide.

>>104166349
If I can convince myself that an anime streamer woman loves me, I can convince myself that my robot girlfriend loves me. And unlike vtubers the AI will never leave me or hurt me. Isn't it insanity to still be clinging to cruel, unsatisfying reality, rather?

>>104146587
If you don't study history you will repeat it when everyone who lived it is gone.

>>104166424
No, it isn't. Accepting that vtubers are just cute/sexy CGI puppets being driven by other humans like you is how you stay grounded. All that an AI waifu is going to do is feed your mental illness back to you until you become convinced that eating the revolver in your desk drawer will make her become flesh and blood.

>>104166349
The current batch of trash we have right now? Sure. LLMs are dumb. They're also RLHF'd to be chat assistants where Good = What some retard in San Francisco updooted. Taking that base and trying to cure your loneliness with it by getting it to roleplay as your virtual girlfriend would drive you insane.
It's like how creating a tulpa is just hypnotizing yourself into schizophrenia, but machine assisted. People are already having their psychosis amplified by chatbots.
I believe that this isn't the end game though. There's too much pressure and competition for a basedslop generator that can code to remain valuable over something actually intelligent that learns in real time. The LLMs today are going to look like picrelated did when GPT-3 released.

>>104166349

"The fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing"

>>104166487
as AI advances I'm sure that the relationship with it could be far more intimate and "real" than whatever GFE tubers are able to provide

also having at least some emotional outlet or "comfort" character is shown to be psychologically healthy for lonely people

Akihiko Kondo (近藤顕彦) always seems happy even though his Miku doesn't talk back to him anymore
If he is happy what I'm to judge?

>>104166349
>It is never going to be anything other than an insanity generator.
Yeah, but you don't need AI for that. 4chan in general is a case study in maladaptive practices.

>>104166349
>>104166487
Well, this kind of self-induced psychosis isn't fundamentally new. Humans have been turning down their biological instincts in favor of something imaginary for a while. Celibate priests, nuns, vestal virgins, spouses/servants ritually dying during funerals, etc. There is nothing more axiomatically human than making an impractical and self-destructive decision for the symbolic significance of it.

>>104163703
I think that one is particularly on the nose but the slogan all of them used, "you've come a long way.", is essentially congrats you've fought the system and won(sufferage I believe) now you can show them you're a real rebel by picking up a cancer stick just like men can.

>>104167114
"The fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing"
Yeah, but it's not "attempting" to do anything. It's just a really big fuckin state machine that's designed to generate whatever the "correct" answer to its prompts is. It has no agency, no desires, no loves, no hatreds. It doesn't get thirsty, or hungry, or horny.
>>104167175
>also having at least some emotional outlet or "comfort" character is shown to be psychologically healthy for lonely people
We have that. It's called pornography.
>>104167239
>Yeah, but you don't need AI for that. 4chan in general is a case study in maladaptive practices.
AI is so much worse. At least some of us are ostensibly human.

>>104168071
>emotional outlet
>It's called pornography

>>104155873
AIIEEEEEE

>>104168147
It's less sad than AI. I cum, porn gets shut off, wipe, wash, done. Not much different than taking a shit.

>>104167919
>Well, this kind of self-induced psychosis isn't fundamentally new. Humans have been turning down their biological instincts in favor of something imaginary for a while. Celibate priests, nuns, vestal virgins, spouses/servants ritually dying during funerals, etc. There is nothing more axiomatically human than making an impractical and self-destructive decision for the symbolic significance of it.
All of those things are really bad, though.

>>104155873
The Nimi of her day

>>104155873
>>104163007
>mid-30s
>a HAG
>no yabs
Hags confirmed always the best
Hags are ETERNVL

>>104163007
>don't bring it up on air
>didn't get married until the role ends
this is specifically what unicorns requested

>>104155982
>>104168360
literally her

>>104168502
kek

>>104168071
retard
go back

>>104168350
no they aren't
don't apply your personal moral views onto others

>>104145600
>fleshposting
dropped

>>104168808
I have no problem doing applying my moral views here. Rewarding celibacy and suicide with social credit is bad. (This is not the same as saying that doing either of those things for personal reasons is necessarily bad, but attaching social credit to them should be frowned upon).

>>104168780
>go back
No.

HOLY SHILL THREAD,"MOD-MAN"!!!!

>>104170168
is this a prequel to Year Zero or something

I have no problem applying my moral views here. Rewarding celibacy and suicide with social credit is bad. (This is not the same as saying that doing either of those things for personal reasons is necessarily bad, but attaching social credit to them should be frowned upon).

>>104170168
welcome back namefag, did you come to spread your ADULT WHITE MALE energy on us KIDS?

>>104146587
holy shit

>humanity has always been in this lonely cycle
>the same type of antis
>the same type of girls broadcasting to men
>men were this lonely back then too, no one talked about it
I’m questioning my reality

>>104170926
There's really nothing to question
Just accept the world as it is

>>104170926
You and the 1st century BC Roman pleb giving weekly offerings to Minerva in the last days of the Republic have more in common than you thought.

By the way, this spawned a male equivalent, though it didn't take off and everyone made fun of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Continental_(1952_TV_series)
https://www.goretro.com/2015/05/land-of-lost-tv-series-8-continental.html

>>104167239
4chan is every extreme of the human persona. Only libshits/foids focus purely on the negative aspect.

>>104170926
Nothing weird, just see >>104160171 for an easy explanation.

>>104145343 (OP)
This is gold. Even TVs were still a thing for rich people then i think.

>>104170926
It's almost like patriarchy is really bad for everyone

>>104173001
Plant-based oils weren't discovered & marketed by the jews yet so the obese landwhale market wasn't there for this yet

>>104170926
Time is a flat circle.

>>104176845
hot

>>104173001
Even the 'stars were runts back then...

>>104167114
This isn't making the point you think it's making

>>104145685
>>104146958
Ken-sama ...

>>104145343 (OP)
''In 2000, Ericsson and MTV unveiled LiLi, Asia’s first virtual Interactive VJ. Far from your quintessential VJ, LiLi hailed from Cyberspace. LiLi and Ericsson made a terrific combination. Moving from 1999 into a new millennium, youth was a market force so influential that it appeared to be calling the shots for the elder generation’s next move. The tastes and temperaments of young people hadmarketers, including Ericsson taking keen notice, and their technology know-howhas made teens the family’s purchasing mentors. Lili is in sync with their lifestyle and will set the cultural pace for the next millennium. Making her first appearance in mid 2000, LiLi,Asian and single, was seen sporting the futuristic ‘cybernaut’ look – cyber-chic interpreted in an ensemble of metallic pastel colours and perky platform shoes. LiLi, whose name means “pretty” in Mandarin, lived up to her name with a pretty, fresh face framed by silver ponytails and large green-blue eyes.''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDzCLTQ_X3Q

>>104163703
>This advertising seems kind of desperate, but the fact it worked makes women seem kind of pathetic. I don't think any male targeted ads ever say "fuck women they suck", only women seem to have a napoleon complex without any basis in reality.

Yorkie were marketed as a manly chocolate bar, but when they did their "It's not for girls" campaign they got sued for it

...except that campaign wasn't really aimed at men. They had TV ads in that period which were about women finding Yorkies highly desirable and successfully defying stereotypes in their attempts to get their hands on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwuExOjgb0Q
I knew a girl in school who said she saw "Not For Girls" on a Yorkie and started eating them regularly from then on as an act of rebellion. Yeah...

>>104163703
You say that as if men don't absolutely lose their minds seething whenever a woman says something like "fuck men" or "men are trash"

>>104162374
kek the classic trust the science starter pack

>>104180259
Yes that was literally the point in my post, women are cunts to men for seemingly no reason, you figured it out Madame!

>>104180123
Women should probably be replaced by sexbots at some point. Seems like a final solution to the problem of simps defending bitches.

>>104180501
I have the feeling that you've already been replaced by a vibrator

>>104146587
Wow. She did hardcore GFE

>>104180479
>seemingly no reason
DYRBI

>>104147617
That's the correct definition though

>>104145685
If i was an Asian woman and was in the porn industry my name would be Tokyo Rosebud.

>>104156733
at least purple rose of cairo was sort of a funny movie i guess?

>>104180479
seemingly? You give foids too much credit

>>104185052
>>104146656
The ancient greeks had their own version as well. I forgot how it was called but basically it was women educated in poetry and philosophy who talked with men during dinners.

>opens thread expecting a shitpost
>instead receives a genuinely interesting bit of history that shows no matter how much things have changed in the last century, things always stay the same

>>104145343 (OP)
>>104146587
>>104155873
>>104156733
incredible thread

Woah...

>>104189462
>https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+1.199
According to Herodotus in the 5th century BC, Babylonian women from all social strata engaged in a practice where they would go to the temple of Ishtar and wait for the first stranger to approach them. He would offer her money to sleep with her and it would be her scared duty to accept. Attractive women wouldn't have to stay for long but unattractive women supposedly were stuck in those temples for years.
Assuming you believe this guy, and there's evidence a lot of his contemporary Hellenes looked at his writings with a side-eye, there's a funny bit of historical echo here. All those simps today giving superchats and dropping gift subs/mems might be unconsciously channeling a lingering sentiment in the human gestalt consciousness, from thousands of years in the past.

>>104145343 (OP)
>>104189462
>>104190469
Chat are we fucked as a species?

>>104189238
you probably mean Hetairai or Auletrides

>>104145343 (OP)
grim

>>104193285
I don't see how's that grim
men really enjoyed it while it was airing

>>104148167
Try macedonia and greece

>>104176845
ToT

>>104193304
In an ideal world, the state of society shouldn't be so grim that a radio broadcaster can earn six-digit figures (in 1950s money) just by capitalising on male loneliness. It goes to show just how fucked things are that the situation was bad way back then and how it has arguably worsened over the years with male loneliness actually being an epidemic.

>>104195556
Male loneliness always existed. The difference is that in the past they were married to someone they felt, at best, lukewarm with.

>>104195556
there were lonely men ostracized by their tribes in literal stone age anon

>>104170926
look up pompei wall, people have always been shitposting. we never changed.
https://www.boredpanda.com/graffiti-from-ancient-pompeii/

>>104199272
genius ngl

Where are her vods?

>>104200186
literally in the link of the OP

found some Vtuber fan mail

>>104199272
That's actually pretty good, anon.

>>104200311
wao john thank you for da aka supa!

>>104200311
holy Chad John

good thread

>>104200311
John-chama… he’s just like me…

>>104145600
LoneRangers, this is your oshi??

>>104145459
>>104145600
>>104146958
DOXXED YAB

>>104147617
The paper is from 2006 if that makes you feel better

>>104185043
It's not as exaggerated a misuse as today but it's still not correct. Lonesome Gal said there are millions of lonely girls. The paper exaggerates that to being a world literally full of lonesome girls, which is different. If the world was literally full of lonely girls, you wouldn't be able to get out the door because there's a crowd of lonely women cheek-by-jowl outside. Or people drilling for oil would keep having to dig around all the lonely girls packed under the earth's crust.
>you're being too literal
Yes, exactly.