Thread 104355929

It’s fucking over, Musk has his eye on vtubers

>>104355929 (OP)
Kirsche is the queen of chuds now.

>>104355929 (OP)
He'll just make a shitty Neuro that just makes Tuddle make Neuro even better because he actually understands the technology while Musk just throws money at 'experts'

>>104355929 (OP)
Yeah, that's what used to happen before Reagan destroyed the public mental health system so he could give more tax cuts to billionaires.
Go ask Elon if he and Telsa will be willing to pay 60% taxes to pay for locking up everyone mentally ill.

>>104356018
go ask the citizenry if they're ok with destroying them instead

>>104356018
Reagan couldn't have foresaw demons releasing violent criminals to deliberately hurt the populace

Qrd on this kirsche character? I looked at her X (formerly twitter) account and it was just chudposting

>>104356068
She's alt lite grifter number 1001, except vtuber

>>104356068
That's it

I enjoy Kirsche's collabs with other chuubas, like Marimari_en and Pippa. They're fun streams.
That said, I don't really watch her outside of that

>>104355929 (OP)
so, how will he try to make himself look cool to vtuber fans and then fuck it up?

>>104355929 (OP)
If she's pro schizos being locked up all of her fanbase would be gone

>>104355929 (OP)
How is everything Kirsche says political. Does she have anything else going on in her life?

>Kirsche simp
absolute shit taste, he could easily groom shylily to drain him dry.

>>104355929 (OP)
Musk is a /pol/tard. /vt/ does not claim him

>>104356068
Fat grifter

>>104355929 (OP)
>grifter sympathizes with grifter
wowzers what a surprise!
also shes not wrong

>>104356053
yes either he or his people wanted to hurt the populace

>>104356631
/vt/ is /pol/lite now, with Phase Connect taking over this board

>>104356068
she is what some people think pippa is

>>104356233
She's got her boyfriend, but the politics is what fills her wallet

>>104355929 (OP)
>>104356068
Fat, ugly, grifting libtard pretending to be a centrist woman who thinks she is a right winger.

>>104355929 (OP)
Isn't that literally what mental institutions are for?

>>104356068
if there are any people more retarded than leftards it's rightiods. she(?) is simply cashing in on that.

>>104355929 (OP)
What's her opinion of Trump being a confirmed pedo?

>>104356908
that he is a true vtuber fan for loving loli.

>>104355929 (OP)
1. Who the fuck cares what that retard thinks?
2. The entire point of being declared mentally unfit to stand trial means you DO get locked up forever UNTIL you ARE able to. It's not a git out of jail free card and Kirsche is retarded. If we followed her logic, we should ban all guns because the only thing they do is hurt and kill people.

>>104356068
She used to be somewhat funny, now she sucks right wing dick and all of her content is reaction slop.

>>104356667
Fuck that

>>104355929 (OP)
Of course the right wing grifting retard doesn't know how that works

>>104355929 (OP)
She's going to have Elon's next kid

>>104356908
Stop talking about Epstein, liberal

>>104357216
He doesn't like fat women.

>>104356671
Pippa brought them in retard

>>104356068
>using a term like "chudposting" unironically

>>104357298
i know and she is a fucking idiot for that
but she is not them, she made them feel in good company and they misinterpreted her intentions, thinking they were anything beyond corny edgy humor

>>104357404
What else would you call it, shes literally a chud vtuber, its like her whole thing.

>>104356233
Shes primarily a political vtuber, even if not officially

>>104355929 (OP)
the zog is after the hobby now, fuck

>>104357436
I think its been proven at this point that if you make cultural right wing whistles (racism, conspiracy) a main part of your brand, you are gonna get a polfag audience even if you are a full on liberal who was just being ironic and even if you change later on. Also Pippa still throwns edgy jokes once in a while there.

>>104357106
>who cares
Being that Musk is one of the riches people on earth and has connections to even the president of the US, then yeah it lind of matters if he starts paying attention to Kirsche

>>104356068
>lets see if /vt/ can describe someone without using the word grifter

>>104357581
>and has connections to even the president of the US
they broke up when elon showed he was a pedo lol

>>104357216
I'll look forward to her crashing out when he starts ghosting her then.

>>104357599
women arent conservative. they never are. ask her about birth control, abortion, feminism etc. she IS a grifter.

>>104356068
She's the road wildest hog you'll find on the right side of the Griftoid river

>>104357599
>posts Griftrissa Ravengrift

>>104357216
>>104357262
From what i read he doesn't actually fuck them, he uses insemination and/or surrogates.

>>104356233
Food

>>104356053
He saw it and he didn't care he was literally evil

>>104357599
She lost her chud status for pandering to the alphabet people on twitter.

>>104357892
he was a basic conservtive. its socialism to fund mental health services. worst case scenario the poors have to deal with crazies on the subway not the elites

>>104357599
Calling someone a chud and a grifter is the only argument leftists know

>>104358121
as opposed to calling someone a tranny or brown?

>>104358211
>whataboutism

>>104358228
So no argument lol

>>104358239
Of course not, I have no interest in defending the people you're talking about

>>104355929 (OP)
Dumbass just says controversial shit for views. Boo.

the prince of frauds (T will always be the king of frauds with his 34 convictions) givng thumbs up to the grifter princess

Holy based
Kirche is the queen of VTubers
Cry more lefttards

>>104355929 (OP)
>nazi reposts other nazis
wow this is crazy

>>104358632
Are you actually retarded?

>>104356908
She said she'll disavow him if he's in the files but not sure if she'll actually follow through on it.

https://youtu.be/zjbzqT3t2Dg&t=4247

This is from about a month ago but not sure if she's discussed it more recently.

>>104358929
>She said she'll disavow him if he's in the files
He IS in the files thats the whole controversy. Far out maga went from lets get the pedos to actively defending fucking epstein.

That tweet seems completely reasonable though?

>>104355929 (OP)
Who's his oshi?
>He made that one AI chick blonde
Was he a teamate

>>104357106
>kill someone randomly
>be declared mentally ill and get locked up
>after a few years some retarded doctors say you recovered and you're not mentally ill anymore
>be free to leave without any consequences
>person is dead forever
this still sounds extremely retarded

>>104359750
It's how justice works in the event of mental impairment
Very similar diffusion of responsibility for acts committed on drugs

>>104359750
Non mentally ill people can still get out early on "good behavior" and appeals and shit. What are you suggesting? We just kill everybody who gets convicted?

>>104360095
>just kill everyone who gets convicted
yeah
If you take a life with intent you should have to forfeit your own

>>104357659
The fuck are you on about, she doesn't pretend to be a chud

>>104360450
Everyone expected her to be a le based right wing chud just because she's from the midwest for some retarded reason, when it's obvious that she's just a run of the mill liberal white woman. Hell her older sister is a literal unironic satanist.

>>104360591
>literal unironic satanist
american chuds still believe this is a thing?

>>104360802
Satanists get rather angry when you point out they're just edgy Epicureans

>>104360802
find Jesus or kill yourself satanic shitstain

>>104355929 (OP)
Pippa was a mistake

>>104355929 (OP)
HOLY SHIT HECKING GORRILION VTWITTER VIEWS WILL GIVE A GORRILIONS VIEWS AND VIEWS AND DA VIEWS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CHAT IS THIS REAL?????

>>104359057
>He IS in the files
Then why weren't they released to discredit him and anyone who ever took his side

>>104355929 (OP)
Where's the vtuber here?

>>104363028
OP cut out some retard just below the post asking grok if this is true

>>104357599
>nb jailbirds

>>104355996
>what is Ani.

>>104360396
>whoops we were wrong you didn't actually do it, let me bring out the necromancer

>>104361054
>find Jesus
Yes goyim, remember who God's chosen people are

>>104363005
This. At this point I’m starting to think Trump is right. He came into power and said “give me the files.” And they gave him something so shit that he realized it was a nothing burger and is now trying to memory hole it so it doesn’t make him look incompetent for pushing for a non-existent thing. Either there was no file, Epstein managed to destroy it before he was arrested, or the agencies destroyed it as soon as they got it to the point where it’s pretty much useless. With how many rats in the government there are, if it incriminated him, someone would have leaked it.

>>104355969
>Muskrrat
Of course she's a coalburner

I haven't watched Kirsche in a long while, but the only time I ever didn't mind her was in collabs. Her solo streams are kinda insufferable.

>>104365070
Yeah, Christians

>>104355929 (OP)
Anyone who defends the government disappearing citizens is the enemy. A "mental illness" institution is just a camp for people who disagree with the elites.

They lobotomized people and gave false diagnoses of schizophrenia to political dissidents before. They’ll do it again.

>>104356170
i didn't really need another reason to not watch Phase but thank you anyway

>>104355929 (OP)
Man I’ve been saying this for years. Where’s my retweet, Elon???

>>104365912
She hasn't streamed in a long time (well over a year) with either. It's clear Phase doesn't want anything to do with her anymore.

>>104365746
I hope you get stabbed on a train.

>>104366124
Probably trying to move away from the /pol/ type audience

>>104366159
For sure, but they're too autistic to read the room and Fishman doesn't want to lose money by alienating them.

>>104365746
>citizens
Reminder that until you are naturalized you are a resident alien only allowed to live in the country at the pleasure of the government

>>104356068
Basically what people that don't watch Pippa think Pippa is except she's actually like that.

>>104355929 (OP)
lol

>>104356068
She's a fat troon, based on archives.

>>104355929 (OP)
Don't chuds use the same mental illness copout when an incel of their own does the same thing, often with a gun?

>>104355929 (OP)
>If someone is too mentally ill to stand trial after murdering someone... ....they should be permanently separated civilized society
Wait, isn't that what they normally do? Do burgers just let them walk?

>>104366813
Pippa strikes me as a dumbass libertarian type who might grow out of it one day. Kirsche is the real deal, she is absolutely worthless

>>104369746
Yes

>>104369298
That bus murderer had a history of mental illness and was incarcerated and released multiple times, but oh no, we need to focus on the fact that he was black, not that the system is fundamentally broken.

>>104369949
>That bus murderer had a history of mental illness and was incarcerated and released multiple times
/pol/ called this out when it happened. Hell, it's one of the frequent complaints of blue states, wether or not it's a fair thing to just blame on them.

>>104365106
Are you retarded? The JFK files where a nothing burger that's the reason why he released them.
The Democrats didn't do it because doing so would cause immeasurable damage to the governments of dozens of countries.
The orange man wouldn't mind doing that. The only explanation for why he doesn't do it is that his name appears a lot, which makes sense considering his relationship with Epstein.

>>104356018
The rightoid "logic" of if we destroy something it will magically fix itself because capitalism.

>closes mental asylums releasing lunatics onto the streets
>crazy homeless people rape and murder people
>can't stand trial because they are crazy and get released back onto the streets
>repeat

See its fixed the free market solves all problems!

>>104369949
And why do you think he was released multiple times, pray tell?

>>104370264
You cracked the case Anon.
There are definitely not any black people in prison in america.
The prisons are actually overflowing with whites because we are the persecuted majority!

>>104370264
You cant keep schizos in mental asylum if they dont want to anon, not too mention the stupid right wing culture of denigrating SSRIs and psychiatric meds.

I hate that this is going to give her a confidence boost now

>>104355929 (OP)
Whenever I check a Kirsche thread, I'm surprised by the amount of troons on this board. It's crazy how much some of you seethe about right wing chuubas.

>>104370264
You think he was released because he was black? How fucking retarded are you

>>104370518
/vt/ is a laughingstock for a reason.

>>104355929 (OP)
>hololive goes bankrupt
>musk buys it
PLEASE IT WILL BE SO FUCKING FUNNY

all of you are fucking miserable

>>104370670
>hololive goes bankrupt
We just need to believe hard enough and it will happen, sister

>>104370680
lose weight

>>104370571
I mean, /vt/ IS a laughingstock, but that's because moderation deliberately chased away people who actually like vtubers, not because people disagree with your side of the culture war.

>>104370264
Regan fucked with the mental institutions during his term and we're feeling the reverberations today

>>104370518
yeah it's really crazy how we give a shit about other humans getting fucked over when they've done nothing wrong

>>104370680
Speak for yourself, I hate and love in equal measure

>>104370518
yeah I'm sure the only people that complain about chuds must be troons. Not regular posters who think you retards are fucking scum

>>104370930
just unironically using the word chud here tells me you're a tourist, m8

>>104372010
>heh... libtards, lefcucks, snowflakes...
>wtf! You can't use the word chud! That's not on the 4chan approved lexicon you newfaggot!
Just shut up already

>>104372152
>gets outed as a tourist
>s-shut up!
kek
sure, whatever, anon

>>104370152
kirsche and musk are subtly calling for outright killing them. canadas MAID was just the trial run

>>104372010
>>104372168
Accusing someone of being a tourist is the new equivalent of calling someone underage. More often than not its simple projection coming from the accuser.

>>104372310
>you're projecting
Jesus, is this what your discord server told you to reply, man?

>>104355929 (OP)
Shit I thought I clicked /pol/ for a second.

>>104356018
Anon, the black judge who released that black man has stake in a mental health facility and would repeatedly order thugs be sent there for a few weeks instead of prison for life.

>>104370930
Chuds are the good guys. Libtards are the bad guys. Simple as.

>>104357599
>>lets see if /vt/ can describe someone without using the word grifter
This probably sounded more clever in your head, but that's quite literally what she is, the text-book example of a bottom of the barrel grifter
She has the most generic and predictable "terminally online wignat" opinions/takes on every issue, and is there within an hour to comment on whatever flavor of the day rightoid echo chambers have drummed up into a "story"
It's painfully obvious she's just a mildly racist radlib who realized she lacked the talent/charisma of a Gura or Korone to draw an audience who like for her being for herself, and has pivoted to pandering to eternal 2016 election tourist because they'll give you views/money so long as you regurgitate their own opinions back at them

>>104372818
Voting for policy that is currently putting american farners at risk of bankruptcy and possibly losing farms that were passed down for generations is being the "good guy", you low iq chumnigger?

>>104373526
>farners
You don't even know English.

>>104373619
>Can only address the spelling mistake because you are a retarded short bus riding nigger who can't actually give an answer as to why or how what i mentioned will be a good thing

>>104355929 (OP)
Do you think her coochie got soaked when the billionaire retweeted her.

>>104355929 (OP)
Literally who

>>104369949
And which race has the highest amount of cases of mental illness per capita?

>>104370518
Less troons, more normals0is and just actual sisters

>>104373526
>cites minor economic hiccup in the first months of long-term policy changes as reason to go back to insane libtards genocidal practices against whites.
Nah, you lost forever and will be exterminated. You shouldn't have been a retarded troon. It's all your fault.

>>104375142
White women.

yes but the american justice system doesnt work like that. its profit oriented, so they would love for people to commit the crime again so they get more money.
The notion that people "incapable" of living in this society should be separated from it in general is wrong tho. She only says that because she is part of the acceptable people right now. Its a retarded stacy that has never been bullied in school.

>>104375182
>minor economic hiccup
I cant wait for the destruction of this country so that either your kind is rounded up into camps and executed or I'm killed in the streets of my liberal city so that I no longer have to know your kind exists

>>104355929 (OP)
He'll target /vt/ first if he hasn't already. Musk definitely has the kind of autism that would have him watching vtubers in earnest. It is sincerely over. Like really, really over. Regardless of politics, this faggot ruins everything he touches.

>>104356068
Some fuckin whale took computer classes

>>104375306
Would you be comfortable sharing a bus with a guy who has a proven track record of killing people in the bus unprovoked?

>>104356908
Just ignore it and it will go away

>>104369949
The system is broken because
>black man caught shoplifting, let go by black judge.
>black man escalates to armed robbery, let go by black judge.
>black man doing drugs and acting deranged, let go by black judge.
>black man kills the first defenseless white person he sees on public transport, black judge still wants to let him go but now the federal government has stepped in.
The system is broken entirely because of racist libtards being allowed into position of authority where they let their fellow blacks get away with all crime. The libtard must be stripped of all institutional power.

>>104355929 (OP)
Kirische vs Hasan (using a vtuber model) debate when?

>>104357663
Terminal autism

>>104375182
>minor economic hiccup

>>104375362
You will live a torturous existence of watching all western countries become white ethnostate paradises until finally your shame leads you to suicide.

>>104373619
Neither do American farmers

>>104375434
Why would a criminal be riding the bus with me when he should be in jail?
if we create a society that is specifically tailored to make it impossible for you to participate, you would sing another tune. In fact, that is the very thing you are scared of and you have tricked yourself into thinking whats going on. Yet the only thing that is demanded that you stop acting on violent thoughts about blacks, transvestites and gays, but this is already too high an ask. Don't use the mentally ill wizard game retards as the standard the majority of society wants you to adapt to. You should not use a fanatic extremist group as the consensus

>>104355929 (OP)
Groktuber would just be an Ani that talks to itself, I am guessing. Or some variant of her.

>>104375574
>Why would a criminal be riding the bus with me when he should be in jail?
Because he wouldn't be in jail, as we've seen with this guy who SHOULD have been either behind bars or in a padded room by the time the attack happened.

Also, spare me the whole "you're just like them!" speech. I have never attacked an innocent on the bus. I have never even felt the desire to do so. So no, I am not like them, whether you like it or not.

>>104375550
>white ethnostate
Until being white isn't enough. You'll rugpull and narrow the criteria to WASPs. It's never been about "whiteness," we know you aren't dumb enough to believe that white skin colour means anything.

>>104370841
Wasn't that due to protests? I read Americans protested about how badly those mental institutions treated their patients.

>>104375813
NTA but yes and no.
Reagan and Nixon used stuff like protests about things like that as excuses to push through some nasty shit that only really benefitted rich people, like private prisons.

>>104375701
>by the time the attack happened
the american justice system is profit oriented, as I said. I'm not sure how the criminal would be a passenger in the bus, if it wasnt profit oriented, since then the system would have no reason to let him commit another crime, if he has committed crimes before. Letting him commit crimes repeatedly and getting through the legal process again and again fills someone pockets, which is why this is happening. I already said, it should not happen.
Neither have I said that "you are just like them". What I said is that you would not agree to the notion that "if people are not able to participate in the current society, they should be locked away", if said society would be tailored specifically to lock you out. This statement includes people that are entirely not at fault of the circumstances they find themselves in that have not committed crimes. Such sweeping statements are the sign of a small-minded individual that is very sheltered. And once you start telling that person how flawed their sentence is they start going "oh of course i didnt mean THAT". That is because you just wanted to get an opinion out that is extremely flawed but has no thought behind it. Opinions are like assholes, pretty much everyone has one, doesnt mean you need to show it to everyone.

>>104375703
>colour
white skin color mattered to the black man who murdered that poor girl, eurotard.

>>104375701
How do you account for the fact that the US has the highest prison population in the world? You keep saying violent black people can get away from justice and siting a few specific cases where it's happened, but statistically speaking they are 5 times more likely to be incarcerated than white people.
>It's because of their violent nature
Okay, but even if that were the case, it doesn't change the fact that they are still incarcerated at a higher right. If there was an epidemic of them avoiding incarceration like you suggest there is, their higher incarceration rates wouldn't be the case.
Look I'm not going to deny that the justice system in the US isn't riddled with extreme incompetence. Cases needlessly fall through all the time due to avoidable fuck ups, and violent criminals are let go. This does happen enough for it to be an issue, but to suggest it's so common, despite the US having the highest incarceration rate and the largest prison population in the world, so as to constitute a widespread crisis makes me think you're just lashing out emotionally.

>>104376075
Right, so your basing your whole white ethnostate on what some psycho black man on a bus thinks? His definitions are law, and you're just reacting to them?
He's writing your constitution, is he? Nice god emperor you got there lol

>>104375942
>american justice system is profit oriented.
Wrong, BLM started riots and forced liberal governments to stop punishing criminals.
The result is this huge list of murders by career criminals.
The fault lies purely on the shoulders of liberal policy.
It was obvious this would happen, but liberals falsely believed that black people don't actually commit crime. Now police body cams and security surveillance shows exactly what's happening. Blacks committing insane violent crime constantly.
All of the liberal heroes like George Floyd? Evil career criminals with a history of theft, violence, drug trafficking.

And btw, once you actually punish all of the blacks committing crimes, you'd be left with 90% of blacks who never commit crime and live happier lives.

>>104376308
ask grok if I told a lie.

>>104355929 (OP)
>>104369746
>>104369883
Literally retarded, did any of you research this at all?

If you're found NGRI (Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity), you don't get a fixed prison sentence like you would have if you were simply found guilty of a crime - instead, you are subject to indefinite confinement in a secure psychiatric facility until the courts have deemed that you have recovered enough to return to normal society.

So, if you normally would have faced, say, 25 years in prison, but you were found NGRI, you could spend the rest of your life in a psychiatric hospital if the courts continue to find you ill and dangerous.

On the other hand, if you recover well enough that the courts believe you definitely won't be a danger to society again, you could walk in as few as a couple years.

It's not just a get out of jail free card.

Keep in mind also that there's a lot more to schizophrenia / psychosis than just "hearing voices". It's not something you can realistically fake.

here's a video of a real schizophrenic killer:
https://youtu.be/n0IvYI6nve4?si=OPL5XAWoNPAhnsw7
here's an example of a moron who tried to fake schizophrenia to try to get found NGRI:
https://youtu.be/bSttyCW9XXc?si=s1biBzUojcYMplve

>>104355929 (OP)
>fatfuck grifter retweets fellow fatfuck grifter
In other news, water is wet. Why would I care what either of them do? They literally don't matter.

>>104357463
>“Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.” -Rene Descartes
Irony is for losers.

>>104355929 (OP)
Thank God for Kirsche, she's a lightning rod in vtubing, attracting all sort of political drama, and containing it, making sure it doesn't spill elsewhere
Goodspeed foxu o7

>>104363005
They were sealed via court order. You'd know this if you bothered to look into it. In either case, they aren't now, and he's free to release them, as he supposedly was back when he was President in 2019 when Jeff Epstein definitely killed himself, but no way you get to see the uncensored video.

>>104356908
not confirmed at all

political footballers are all unironic brainlets

>>104377152
>The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

>>104377191
>pic
Nobody talks like this

I thought Americans had guns to defend and put down freaks like this, but apparently when shit goes down so does Americans' bravery.

>>104356018
>the bad mental health system is why this violent ape was released back on the street 14 times instead of thrown in jail or the gallows

>>104377430
see the cool thing with american journalists is that they genuinely talk like this and think that everyone else does too

>>104377567
Charlotte is a blue city

>>104376779
>On the other hand, if you recover well enough that the courts believe you definitely won't be a danger to society again, you could walk in as few as a couple years.
You're 100% right, and this part in particular is the current problem that retards like Kirsche refuse to engage with because it would require them to acknowledge that when mentally ill people are stabilized, they don't magically lose their mental illnesses. We don't have systems in place to maintain stability with these people, so most of the time they'll get stabilized in these health facilities, be released (often back to homelessness), and eventually relapse because what the fuck else are they gonna do when they're put right back into the situation that caused this shit in the first place. Their "solutions" are always to mask the symptoms, not tackle the problem.

>>104377567
she was a ukranian refugee, and was attacked from behind with no warning.

>>104356233
>common sense is considered political
I can see why the us is so morally bankrupt not as much as the uk though

>>104355929 (OP)
Musk has been trying to stick his nose in vtubers for years to no success, the only thing that could possibly happen is Kirsche in particular gets fucked over by Musk giving her wider exposure, which would be great because she's so abysmal that she makes people hate her any time she speaks

>>104377567
If you find the video, literally everyone else sitting in that section is a black gorilla nigger, and no one does anything to help her or at all until 11 minutes of her bleeding out

>>104356053
>Reagan couldn't have foresaw demons

>Hmmm there is a large number of psychos
>Some of them are violent schizos
>Some of them are literally brain damaged like that sniper
>REEEE LOCKING THEM UP IS LITERALLY SOSHULISM, WHAT ABOUT RICH PEOPLE BEING OPRESSED WITH TAXES

Everyone with a working brain could have foresee that, Reagan belonged to a group of people who either lack even that much of brain capacity or are doing that deliberately.
Same with the "le frivolous lawsuits" where he deliberately played down and lied about corporate fuck ups, painting the people who sued said corporate as hysterical scam artists.

Reagan is sodomized by Thatcher with a cactus in the lowest bowels of Hell and that fag absolutely deserves it, because Reaganomics killed american dream, fucked it's corpse, and told working americans to pay the bill for that for generations to come.

>>104377430
Except for the President when he thinks he's being poetic. That's his signature. You support a pedophile, anon. Just admit it. You're about a month away from doubling down and then claiming that it's okay when the President does it.

>>104358228
>oh no, I am getting called for doing the shit I bitch about!
>go go gadget whataboutism!
Nice attempt, hypocrite.

>>104363005
>Then why weren't they released to discredit him and anyone who ever took his side
Because both democrats and republicans are knee deep with that.
Releasing them is pretty much a nuclear option at this point and nobody will do it.

>>104355929 (OP)
Isn't what Kirsche is asking for like exactly what we do with people who successfully pull of the insanity defense? Like you don't just get let go if you get that they put you in the nuthouse.

>>104377606
American Journalists write everything like its a tumblr takedown

>>104377430
To be fair the whole thing is like that, its full of weird ass drawings and weird ass poetry

>>104379491
Yes, but Kirsche is a fucking idiot and thinks that we just set them free, or alternatively she does know better and thinks mentally ill people should go to prison without a trial.

>>104375813
>Wasn't that due to protests?

>People protest X thing, like medical experimentation over """mentally ill"""
>Government does the bare minimum about X thing, but pushes load of the bullshit that makes things worse along with it.
Gee, how could this happen, it's a riddle of the century, yeah.

why are they always bringing up trump why are they so deranged

>>104379553
>why do people bring up the most powerful man in the world? It's a complete mystery.

>>104375182
>Completely crashing american agriculture is a "minor" hiccup
You are genuinely such a retarded subhuman that you shouldn't even be allowed to have free will. I really might just hop on the rightoid grift money train because you people are so fucking stupid and easy.

>>104379605
leftoids really do fucking worship him then, that never registered as a way of describing him in my head, jesus christ

>>104379680
Because you're retarded

>>104379680
>The President of the United States of America, the most powerful nation on earth by far, cannot be described as the most powerful man in the world or else you're worshiping him.
You're a fucking idiot, and it shows.

>>104379907
>>104379942
not only obsessed with politics but still wrong about it, typically pathetic

>>104379651
There's no use even talking to libtards, all they do is scream that the world is ending when the only problems we have are caused by libtards sucking the cocks of drug cartels. They're all corrupt, evil scumbags profiting off the mass murder of innocents.

>>104372818
>>104375182
>>104375457
Listen man, you can believe whatever bullshit you want to, but stop using my wife as your shitposting image. I am 100% sure she would not stand with your retardation.

>>104356068
She's a coalburner

>>104381009
Who tried to deny being a coalburner and immediately got dragged

>>104356018
I disagree with mental institutions. They are very cruel and it's unamerican to put the freedom of someone in the hands of healthcare worker who is incentivized to keep them locked up longer for profit.
What's wrong with the system we have right now? Just let them wander around and dull their senses with opiates.

>>104381050
Dragged by two bluecheck grifters and their small army of groypers wannabes. I don't even like Kirsche but who gives a shit what either of them think? Kaguya Aryan isn't even white lmao

>>104381139
Settle down kirsche

>>104356068
She's part of Proctor's doxxing group if you want to know about her true character.
Also the whole drinking ketchup directly out of the container isn't a meme.

>>104381053
that tends to be the problem with jails, not secure psychiatric facilities.
for-profit prisons can earn a lot of money from prisoners, so they're incentivized to keep people incarcerated.
secure psychiatric facilities, however, tend to cost a lot of money - to keep insane people under control and treat them properly.
They can't be made to work due to the difficulty of making insane people cooperate.
Thus the problem is usually not that these people are incarcerated indefinitely - rather, it's that the secure psychiatric facilities don't receive the funding they need and have to close, leaving dangerous mentally ill people running around.

>>104370152
Just shoot them! Without due process! So simple!

>>104355929 (OP)
Musk thought Asmongold's editors were his bosses.

>>104373526
we just need some rugged socialism for these farmers who have had decades of pigging out at the Government trough but didn't bother saving any money.

>>104355996
>make a worse Neuro
Current neuro is a pajeet being paid $4 an hour.
As we saw with Musk's boosted POE2 account, he already knows that trick.

>>104380907
My wife is based and would agree that it would be nice to ride the train without some black career criminal sitting behind her courtesy of libtards.

>>104356233
She plays games and talks about regular shit too, but she is primarily a news oriented vtuber and talks about social issues as well as political.
>>104379430
The first D isn't even the same.

>>104356086
What part is the grift? When your feelings get hurt?

>>104381265
>due process
>the due process that just lets them go every time
>the due process that wastes all our tax money only to allow criminals to kill again and again
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>104379430
>Locked up Epstein twice, and let him die in jail
>Hides files to protect the state of israel
He might work with jews to help genocide the middle east, but that doesn't make him a pedo on the same level of the millions of leftoid marxists that want to mutilate children's bodies and groom them to be trans.

>>104357463
>cultural right wing whistles (racism, conspiracy)
Racism and conspiracies are bipartisan anon...

>>104381317
Yeah? Well my wife would recognize that the pertinent issues here are dangerous, mentally ill people being easily let out of the institutions designed to contain them due to the system being broken, instead of honing in on something arbitrary like the assailant's race. She would also remember that back in Las Vegas in 2017, a mentally ill white person shot up a music festival, and no one on the right tried to make it about race.

>>104357436
Don't speak for all of us. Yes, some of us took notice because of the bravery she had to mock both sides of the good and evil axis, and we stayed because she is delightful. We are under no delusions that she's a normal conservative, she is a woman after all and they tend to have some degree of mental illness, aka liberalism.

>>104355929 (OP)
>they should be separated from society as they are not capable of living in it
...that's literally what happens when someone isn't able to stand trial due to mental illness: they're forcibly put in an institution. John Hinckley Jr. spent 30 years in an institute after he tried to assassinate Reagan. It's not a cushy institution either.

>>104381498
I still remember that. It was the first time I saw the gore of a shooting. They couldn't triage while the shooter was still active so people just lied where they were shot and bled out.

>>104381498
Conservatives aren't making it about race, the fake news marxist media and the racial tiered courts are the ones doing that.
>Las Vegas in 2017
Because that one was about religion, God-given gun rights, and the government using another patsy to stage a massacre.

>>104381561
>>104381544
>>104381519
I don't think it was a fake shooting.
https://files.catbox.moe/f6gepu.mp4

>>104381561
>Conservatives aren't making it about race, the fake news marxist media and the racial tiered courts are the ones doing that
???
People on the left are focusing on the fact that he's mentally ill. People on the right are focusing on the fact that he's black. Who's making it about race?
>Because that one was about religion, God-given gun rights, and the government using another patsy to stage a massacre
You are so fucking stupid man lol

>>104381561
Every time a black guy goes on a rampage its because he's black, but every time a white person goes on a rampage its because uhh... *checks notes* he's an MK Ultra sleeper agent working for the government to carry out false flag attacks. Make it make sense.

>>104381584
No one said is was fake, he said it was staged. Learn American or go back to the SEA.

>>104381636
You need to calm down you dumb faggot. Noone in SEA would know these things from so long ago.
And it was not staged. These crazies are real.
ATF now monitors anyone who buys large amounts of ammunition.

If you have social media, extreme left or right wing beliefs, no wife or kids, and buy a large amount of 556. You better believe you are being watched.

>>104381626
>I am intellectually dishonest

>>104381598
>People on the left
Were trying to completely ignore it and now only talk about it to claim the other side is being racist.

>>104381719
Why is it never even considered that maybe these guys are the government patsies manipulated to stir up a divisive race war?

>>104381719
He's right though. There's a segment on the right that fantasizes about shooting up minorities.
And niggers are wild animals.
Both things are true at the same time, so why do you only defend the white ones?

>>104381719
What? Are you saying that crazy white people have never bum rushed a cop on bodycam?

>>104381746
They do that too, but the funding got cut this year.

Whats the value of your home?
I think that might explain why you have trust issues and the people around you behave so badly.

>>104381498
He killed the white girl for being white, however. He made it about race.

Also, the black judges released him because he was black. They made it about race.

My wife isn't stupid. She knows what's going on.

>>104381827
funny thing about that, liberals are pushing to remove cameras because what they're seeing does NOT fit their narrative at all.

>>104381939
meant to reply to this >>104381789

>>104381626
idk man, pretty sure they charge whites with hate crimes every fucking time, but let all the blacks go.
you guys gotta stop defending the bs.

>>104381939
>liberals are pushing to remove cameras because what they're seeing does NOT fit their narrative at all
Not a single leftist is pushing for this, schizo. At best you'll find one or two fringe posts, but generally leftists have been supportive of bodycams despite everything.

>>104381988
you'll see. they're getting very very mad that footage is being shown.

>>104382008
Okay? Care to show me where these mad leftists are?

>>104381789
>b-but a white person did it too once!
You will never understand per-capita. Retards actually think that was a good defense for the UK rape gangs too, thinking they were smart pointing out that like 2 of the 40 perpetrators weren't brown.
Also even if they did as often, it's some groups getting treated with kid gloves and constantly covered for despite being overwhelmingly despicable, while another group is constantly villainized. That's "restorative social justice" for ya, I'm sure it'll end great.

>>104356647
>grifter
Dude has enough money to have all chuubas in his room as sex workers

>>104382022
new york times had a meltdown over it and liberals are all agreeing with it. they want to ban cameras.

>>104381988
If they're so angry about recording why do they all walk around with there phones out and post the footage to twitter?

>>104382057
I am asking you again to provide your source of liberals melting down and advocating the banning of bodycams. You won't find but a few fringe weirdos saying that.

>>104356018
>pay 60% taxes
The left keeps saying increase taxes on the rich, but are against tariffs.
They are quite similar. While it's the companies that have to pay the tariffs or taxes, the burden falls on the consumers.
But tariffs cause the companies to return, rather than going offshore, avoiding the taxes.

>>104382024
Most serial killers and school shooters have been caucasians per-capita. Should I start fearing for my life every time I walk down a dark street or a school hallway in case some white guy decides to gut me?

>>104382087
i just told you. mainstream media is all crying about the footage making people racist. they want to ban cameras. you'll agree with them soon because you're an npc.

>>104381413
>let him die in jail
DYRBI?

>>104382117
Unironically yes. White trash acts like trash. You know the type, tattoos all over, looks like he doesn't shower, messy hair, bulge on the hip indicates a concealed pistol
Judge everyone on first impressions and you won't end up in an early grave.

>NOOOO don't release the footage, hide the truth, hide the truth!
The Left is watching their disgusting world view crumble before their very eyes.

>>104382120
I genuinely do not see any liberal melting down over in that image you posted. Mainstream media in this case being one NYT article you misconstrued into them advocating for the banning of bodycams.
What they said is true anyway. The topic on hand should be that a mentally ill man who should have been incarcerated was instead free to kill some poor innocent, but because the assailant was a black man and the victim was a white woman, all conservatives can focus on is their race because of confirmation bias.

>>104382120
Where in that article do they explicitly talk about banning cameras?

>>104382185
you dont see it because it doesnt exist. the NYT is loathed by leftists everywhere so it's unreliable as a source. leftists advocate for bodycams to hold cops accountable, liberals advocate for bodycams to protect cops, cops themselves want bodycams to have evidence in court if they ever need it. but the second you ask anyone for proof of anything on this board, you get nothing, because half of these people are probably literally schizophrenic or conditioned to live in constant paranoia (see: >>104382151)

If you criticized the catch-and-release policy, your argument would be a lot better. And I would agree with you too.
Making this about camera footage was a weird take on the whole situation.

>>104356068
she be a white whale lad.

>>104382151
Funny because the majority of those serial killers and school shooters weren't the white trash types. They're usually middle-class suburbanites with above average intelligence that could fit in with a crowd of normal joes.

>>104382185
you are misunderstanding the race topic, perhaps on purpose.
the problem is that liberals give special treatment to blacks, letting them off with no punishment.
that's why you're getting pushback against your racist worldview that blacks should be allowed to be criminals.

>>104356053
Reagan was the demon, genuinely started the downwards spiral America is in today by turning the Republicans from a party that seeks freedom for Americans to a bunch of corporate cocksuckers

>>104382285
they rely on creating boogeymen to control the populace via fear
when you accept that "evil" people live among all of us and can be hard to tell apart, thats when you start winning against the narrative of the State

>>104355929 (OP)
Whether you agree with her or not, it is an issue that should no longer be swept under the rug. >bbut but Reagan 40 years ago.
Many Presidents since then. Re-releasing criminals after 14+ convictions didn't happen back then.

>>104382385
I mean, you can't really call it a boogeyman when its just plain statistics and recorded fact. Most serial killers and school shooters just are like that.

>>104382385
Yep, the Media loves fear-mongering.
Why I think Trump purposely trolls them.
So much Fascism, economic collapse, taking away rights, genocide, naziism, etc., that people have become numb. Working as intended.

It's only over for lolitubers. Musk is a normie weeb, so he appreciates the socially acceptable parts of anime and weebdom a lot.

>>104382366
proof?

>>104382385
>Once you completely errode social trust and community, give yourself entirely to paranoia and start isolating yourself from any collective power, that's when you start winning against the state
lol sure

>>104382057
>New York Times
yeah real popular with leftists, anon. fucking moron

>>104382373
I'm right-wing and I agree. Reagan legalized 3 million illegal immigrants which caused illegal immigration to spiral out of control as everyone just assumed immigration standards would never be enforced. That's just one of many ways he fucked the economy long-term.

>>104381734
People on the left want fuckin gulags mate. We want reeducation.

>>104382564
bro idc if you consider a liberal publication not radical left enough for you.

>>104379269
That was sad.

Needed another Marine to take action, but the city charged him with homicide.

>>104382653
ok but we're arguing about leftists. youre the one that keeps changing it to "liberals". if you dont understand that leftists and liberals are not the same by now, you are not old enough to be on this board.

After Occupy Wall Street, the rich got scared and started pushing identity politics. Left-wing ate it up and now force everyone to fight their bullshit like trans kids, releasing all criminals, DEI, so on.

The country could've been so beautiful.

>>104382653
Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr., is the current owner of the New York Times. Sulzberger has donated money to Republican candidates in the past and has expressed distaste for people who view the NYT as a "liberal publication."

Read, retard.

>>104382988
leftists are mossad plants, if you don't understand that then enjoy being a mind-controlled npc forever.

As much as /vt/ [does not] loves these race war baiting threads by right wing conservatives because they need to keep the public enraged to vote against the economic interests.
Don't let them distract you from the fact that conservatives just passed a law criminalizing anime in Texas, which will also affect vtubing.
And don't fall for their bothsidisms either,given this sort of censorship only comes from conservative states.

>>104373227
This seems to be exactly the reasoning behind most people calling her a grifter but there's never a good example. So her opinions are predictable and she's quick to comment on things. Doesn't that just show she's got a consistent worldview and is constantly online as a career. I think having a distaste for Vtubers or online creators endlessly pandering to their echo chambers is a legit reason to stay clear of them but its not grifting. If for example joe rogan invites some quack over to discus alternative medicine, it might be two uneducated opinions obnoxiously going unchallenged for an hour but they probably believe what they are saying. I have not seen any evidence of her expressing one opinion publicly with proof she "obviously" believes differently. What i have seen are smear campaigns and lots of "trust me i know what she really thinks".
Just wish someone had a good example of her actually grifting or could just own up too the fact that they find her worldview repulsive and argue the points of disagreements from there. Which by the way is the better solution to actual grifters.

>>104383041
i get it, you punch everything to the right of your radical left position, but everyone sane rates NYT as liberal.

>>104383054
>has no argument
>folds by schizoposting
kekw

>>104383085
Why are you calling all anime obscene? Are you trying to push misinformation?

>>104383237
Why are you victim blaming? More than you're pro-censorship and anti anime given it's the conservatives who made the law and have given themselves the power to decide what is 'obscene'

>>104383271
No see the law says obscene depictions, if you didn't think anime in general was obscene and the law has not been tested in court at all then you wouldn't say anime is crininalized. But thats what you said. So logically you are saying that all anime is obscene. Why do you think like that, are you so closed minded to not think of anime as anything but pornographic?
Also I'm not even American.

>>104383085
>lil bro really thinks it wasn't left wing liberals starting all the race war, gender war, identity war bullshit to distract their own constituents so they wouldn't have to actually do anything for their economic interests while they're in power.
At this point you're genuinely best off hoping the republican party identity crisis breaks the right way.

>>104383321
>Admits he's a foreign shill
>So he wouldn't know there is no legal definition for what 'obscene' is
>Also doesn't know this could be used to overturn Ashcroft v FSC which ruled that lol is not CP because of how far right wing the court is.
>Still is trying to victim blame while shilling for a law that bans anime.
>And he admitted he's a foreign shill too.
Way to totally fuck up shill.

>>104383340
>This level of projection
All to distract from the fact right wing conservatives have banned anime. You're clearly for the ban given you're trying to change the subject. And that's extremely weird given 4chan is an anime image board.

>>104383085
That shit is illegal in multiple countries, banned by leftists.

>>104383349
I'm not shilling anything, I'm pointing out that you are saying that anime is obscene. Those are your implications. Which means you must also think vtubers are obscene. If so why are you on this board?

>>104383382
>Whatabout
Talking about the Texas Anime ban, which was passed by conservatives, please stay on topic. But your consciousness of guilt is pretty damning too.

>>104383396
>I'm not shilling anything
Why would you start off with a lie? You clearly are a shill and trying to deflect from the anime ban by victim blaming since the issue is conservatives declaring it obscene. So why do you work for the republicans to attack anime?

>>104383366
Some vapid pearl clutching boomers wasting time on banning comic books is totally disconnected from actual politics and will disappear completely if they aren't replaced by a younger generation of troons freaking out about lolis.

And you have to admit, the Left literally started BLM during a black man's presidency to distract from him getting down on his knees sucking corporate cock for 8 long years.

>>104383425
Why are you refusing to acknowledge that you have called all anime obscene? Why do you believe this? Why are you avoiding answering the question?

>>104383443
Why do you continue to lie? It's conservatives that did that, you could at least be like your fellow shill here who admits they want the ban >>104383440

>>104383457
What have i lied about? Why are you avoiding answering my questions about how you, a self proclaimed leftist, have said that all anime is obscene?

>>104383457
bro, you're so fucked in the head, you call people shills for agreeing with you that banning anime is retarded (if true). wtf is wrong with libtard pigswines.

>>104383471
>>104383478
It's the conservatives that did that with their anime ban, yet you're trying to blame the victim, which is another standard conservative tactic. But I can't expect anything less for a foreign shill defending an anime ban. You might as well be the same person at this point because your both grasping at straws to defend the Texas Anime ban.

>>104383489
No it clearly does not state that all anime is banned, only obscene imagery of minors. Youre the one saying that all anime is banned. Why are you implying that all anime is obscene images of minors?

>DURR I'M LIBTARD AND I WANT TO SUCK CORPORATE COCK SO THEY'LL SELL ME TROON HORMONES AND SURGERIES, TAKE MY MONEY AND MY BALLS PLZ CORPO OVERLORDS.
fucking golems. these are the guys in our way.

>>104366813
What are you on about? Pippa spent years astroturfing and cultivating that kind of audience for Phase Connect.
She's had to beg her fans multiple times to stop being fucking awful in her replies.

>>104383505
And who decides that? The conservatives who passed the law, meaning they can just declare anything they want 'obscene', but given you're still trying the victim blame and defending the ban, you know that and don't care. But you are a self admitted foreign shill, so that's a given since you're defending the ban.

>>104383533
I'm saying that the law does not ban all anime, while you are insisting that it does. Which means you see all anime as obscene. Why do you see it like that?

>>104381053
>What's wrong with the system we have right now?
Violent crime. You know, like murder.

>>104383548
Who decides what is obscene? There's no objective measure of this. It eventually turns into blurry edges and getting rid of simply anything you don't like.

>>104383548
Except the fact it gives conservatives total leeway to decide what 'obscene' is, which would make it a ban. And your victim blaming for raising the alarm on that only makes you look guiltier.
If you're the best foreigner that conservatives could get to shill for their anime ban, I don't want to imagine how shitty the home grown shills are.

>>104383567
A jury of your peers in a court of law. Now answe why you think all anime is obscene?

>>104383582
It isn't a boogeyman that decides verdicts it's juries. Why are you calling all anime obscene?

The Jews used to only take the foreskin, but now they're taking the whole dick and balls.

>>104383604
Why are you pivoting to juries when it was conservatives that declared it obscene? Why are you so desperate to keep victim blaming and defending the Texas anime ban?

>>104383622
Because thats how laws are enforced, in a court of law with a jury of your peers. Texas hasn't banned anime. You are implying that it has, the law does not say that all anime is banned, only obscene depictions of minors. Why do you keep calling all anime obscene depictions of minors?

>>104383646
So now you're claiming that juries can just declare nothing is 'obscene' so the law is unenforceable. Why would conservatives bother to pass it and specifically include stuff like anime then in their ban? You're continuing to grasp at straws and again desperately victim blaming.

>>104383677
Because many laws are unenforceable and the people writing them are usually doing so for optics. Why are you constantly calling anime obscene depictions of minors, are you unable to answer the question? Are you unable to read and understand the English language? If so that would explain how you misread the bill.

>libtards can only try to exhaust their opponents with pointless argumentation while jews brainwash them into giving up their genitals and their paychecks.
lmao

>>104383710
So you admit the objective was to ban anime, but conservatives are just incompetent? You know what, I could see that happening given you're here shilling for them.
If the objective wasn't to ban anime, why even include it then? The fact they're still desperately trying to victim blame is pretty damning.

>>104383677
Also i don't understand why you are so incessant that you are a victim and I'm victim blaming or whatever. The victim in your eyes that you are implying would be the anime industry made up of a bunch of mega corporations. I'm the one saying that they are not targeting the entire industry. You forget what people are doing with Ai shit these days, including making Ai garbage of real children which is disturbing to say the least. Can you at least agree that making an Ai garbage creation of someone's real child in a sexual situation is messed up?

>>104383768
Because apparently pointing out that they're trying to blame anime means you're the villain in your foreign shill mindset.
Also if you're going top pivot to another conservative damage control talking point. Why not just say AI? Why did conservatives specifically include 'cartoons and animation' along with AI for their ban?
That's further proof of intent on behalf of conservatives.

>>104383730
I'm basically done arguing with this fool insisting that all anime is under attack and the sky is falling. Threads at bump limit anyway so all his fear mongering is going to be gone soon.

>>104383791
Because there is no method of proving something was created by Ai 100%. Anime is a style to you retarded Americans. I'm sad that you refused to answer as to why you kept insisting all anome is obscene. Just goes to show that if you had it your way it all would be banned regardless if it was obscene or not.

>>104383821
So your logic is ban anything animated or cartoon because conservatives are incompetent and can't ID AI CP from real CP.
Your terrible at this, also why do you keep insisting on victim blaming when it's conservatives who passed the anime ban in texas? You already claimed it's unenforceable, so why even bother to pass it unless the objective is to ban it.

>>104383801
they even say the sky is literally falling. anything to distract from the wrongness of them running around penniless and dickless.

>>104383857
Again you keep saying anime ban. Its not an anime ban. Prove its an anime ban. Anime ban means all anime. That's what those words mean.

>>104383883
>>104383865
>>104383801
Why would they include cartoons and animation if they didn't intend to ban it? Your AI argument was already debunked, so the only reason is malice with intent to ban.
Also you circle jerking while pretending your done is making me laugh.
But then again, you are in favor of banning anime. On an anime image board no less.

>>104383902
Again you keep refusing to answer the question. Because you know you're wrong and got caught. Its sad that you're in denial about your views. Enjoy getting angry and anxious about literally everything, hope it doesnt cause a shortened lifespan. Safe travels I guess.

>>104383951
>Now he's just projecting because he can't defend the Texas Anime ban after all his damage control for the ban was debunked.
I accept your concession.

>>104383962
>debunked I win I win
Pretending to win isn't the same as actually debating something. Also note that I never said it was an anime ban. That was all you buddy. I didnt even defend it either, i was just pointing out that you were using incorrect terminology to mislead people and make them panic. Youre going to reply to this as well because you can't stand not having the last word.

>>104384013
>Being this upset that his damage control for the Texas Anime Ban was debunked
>Now pretending he wasn't defending the ban in the first place.
Give your projection over getting the last word, you never did answer the question. Why would conservatives pass a ban that you admitted was unenforceable?

>>104384057
>>104383710

>>104384082
See
>>104383746

>>104384100
So you really can't read. Do you know what optics means? It was never their intention to ban all anime.

>>104384163
Again, your excuse for conservatives banning anime in Texas now is they're too incompetent to enforce the ban. Which still proves malice since they pushed forward with the anime ban anyway.
And that makes it worse.

>>104384163
Its because that guy is a gaslighting pos, hes been doing it the whole thread. Might be a woman based on how dumb their arguments are.

>>104384195
Stop saying anime ban because that is not what it is. You did this exact same shit years ago with the parental rights bill in Florida. Pushing misinformation.

>>104384215
>>104384223
>Stop calling the Texas Anime ban an anime ban.
And let you get away with censoring the truth? I think not. Also we're talking about the Texas anime ban, it's almost a given Florida will pass their own anime ban, but not yet. So please stop trying to deflect from discussing the Texas Anime Ban that was passed into laws by conservatives that negative impacts both anime and vtubing.

>>104384268
Youre just wrong. Factually wrong.

>>104384268
>words words words
So youre saying obscene depictions of minors should be legal?

>>104384295
>>104384299
>N-n-n-no u...
Not an argument
Also did you just equatie anime like loli. with actual minors?

>>104384329
That's what you have been doing this entire time

Some of you guys would hang your kids, your dog, and yourselves if it meant the person you feared hung too. Pathetic

>>104384362
If i had a button that would randomly kill 95% of humanity i wouldn't hesitate to press it these days

>>104384349
What a sad attempt at gaslighting and projection. It's the conservatives who passed the Anime Ban in Texas that did that. Don't blame me for what conservatives you're shilling for did.

>>104384362
>Implying there are people /here/ who have kids

>>104384394
Please point to the line in the bill that says it bans all anime.

>>104384431
Why would conservatives specifically include 'cartoons and animation' in the law to ban anime if they didn't intend to ban it? Or are you going to pivot back to 'they're not evil, they're incompetent' to defend the Texas Anime Ban.

>>104384479
So you can't point to the line that says that. According to your logic theyre banning bugs bunny and toy story too.

>>104384329
So you want obscene depictions of minors as long as its anime and the children arent real?

>>104384504
>>104384532
With how broadly the law is written, they could do that too if they consider it 'obscene' which is why the Texas anime ban is about.
Also we get it, you hate free speech and freedom of expression, that explains why you're trying to equate loli with the real thing in your defense of the Texas Anime Ban.

my god youre all fucking stupid
/pol/fagging has gone too far

>>104384575
I'm doing nothing of the sort, you are equating all anime to loli. I never defended the law, I have only ever pointed out that you are spreading misinformation to get people upset.

>>104384575
Laws are usually written with some amount of vagueness, after all we still have court cases about how to interpret the bill of rights. Saying something is obscene would be generally understood by the populace. They won't ban pokemon but maybe the episode where james gets vreast implants. Makes sense? If you want hardcore loli porn to be legal then thats going to beva tough position to argue.

>>104384619
>>104384649
You clearly are doing that and now trying to shirk responsibility, you also continue to defend the law by pretending it's not a ban,when it clearly is otherwise they wouldn't include 'cartoons and animation' in the law for what is criminalized.
Also you continue to project over the fact, the fact remains, it's an anime ban because of how it's written and would be enforced where jury would go along with it just like they did with the first manga prosecution in over 20 years ago in Texas.
Conservatives really have it out for anime in Texas.

>>104384689
Manga isn't anime though, I thought you said it was an anime ban?

>>104384744
Talking about a separate prosecution, but it looks like you're going to cling to technicalities since you've failed totally when it comes to the facts in your defense of the Texas Anime Ban.

>>104384788
You're the one who brought up the manga. It's a real shame they won't be able to watch loli hentai in texas though.

>>104384832
Showing Texas has long history of going after manga and anime given hey just enshrined a law banning Anime in Texas. BTW, it was a trial by jury and the guy was still convicted, so don't expect the people to do the right thing either.
Also glad you admit it's a ban now, unless you're going to backpeddle.

>>104384875
The law is obviously a ban for content depicting minors in an obscene sexual way. You seem to think all anime does this though which is delusional.

>>104384915
Except it's what they consider to be 'under 18'. so any teen anime girl would be affected by the Texas Anime Ban as well, or even a 1000 years loli baba. Or just keeping track of age at all.

>>104384960
I think most publishers already censor stuff like that when they localize the anime. The main intention of the bill is to stop people from using AI to generate really bad images. If there was a cartoon or anime depiction as bad as an AI image generator then that should be accounted for.

>>104385103
It doesn't matter, the interpretation is up to the prosecutors and police. You can take a girl and claim she's 18, but if the police decides she's younger, you're shit out of luck.
And as said before, if they really wanted to just go after AI, they should have just had that part of the bill and not include 'cartoons and animation' The intention is clear with the Texas Anime Ban and it was to go after anime, otherwise they wouldn't have included 'cartoons and animation'

>>104385145
Well, I hope your misinformed fearmongering provides some relief to your mental state. You seem to be very determined to mischaracterize the bill and won't listen to reason. It had bi-partisan support by the way.

>>104385198
>Doesn't refute anything and resorts the gaslighting
>Also tries to pretend it's not conservatives
Foreign shill, you always give yourself away from how badly you defend the Texas Anime Ban.

>>104383121
And liberals aren't leftists

>>104384613
It's by design. This is the mods' vision

>>104383509
Retarded wokescolds made you too comfortable. Now that the centre left has fucking collapsed under the weight of their own faggotry, you have to compete with real leftists who insist on discussing material issues.
Leave it to your more cultured betters on the right instead of embarassing us like this.

>/vt/ is now officially /pol/
This board is finished, amazing job jannies

Left vs Right is braindead football team politics.
Focus on the actual issues, fuck optics, fuck your team. Like back in OG 4chan times.
Back in the day you would spam nigger no problem then shit on Bush administration for the Irak war, satanic panic new edition, censorship and so on.

No need for team vs team shitfests when both Dems and Reps are a plenty in Epstein's Flight Logs, including celebrities, no need for bullshit when there's been both Dem and Rep presidencies and no one did anything about it.
Politicians of both sides will use voters as pawns and suck whatever cock gives them more power, no matter said cock being corporate, other politicians, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, religionfags, or whoever has the biggest power-cock.

Fuck Reddit for memoryholing that Ghislainne Motherfucking Maxwell was a reddit supermoderator of places like WorldNews.

Fuck anime censorship no matter who does it. Fuck Credit Card Cartel censorship no matter who does it.

Fuck them for splitting Occupy Wall Street through identity politics.
Fuck word policing.

Fuck everyone who complains about people wanting out of the fantasy internet politic wars instead of being handled to their respective sides.

Common sense is dead and all that's left is internet political imaginary wars that are harmless to the literal mafias who run countries.
It's all a Circus, you're the clowns, and they are the ringmasters.