Thread 104452962

I am getting severe JOP fatigue.
Why can't Japanese people just learn English like every other person in the first world?

>>104452962 (OP)
They invented vtubing, you are just a guest.

>>104452962 (OP)
Because you're not the target market. hololive literally does not need gaijin money to operate. Delete the EN and ID branch and everything will truck along just fine. If anything thing will improve without the contamination of the subhuman branches.

>>104452962 (OP)
Why can't fags like you learn Japanese, instead of being some tourist trying to invade another countries media and demanding change. Fuck off

>>104453101
>Because you're not the target market.

>>104452993
The west invented and owns vtubing.

jpGODS are the reason why your oshi has a career

>>104452993
They didn’t lol
Japs always just steal from everyone else like the eastern kikes they are

>>104452962 (OP)
>japanese company
>looks inside
>japanese

>>104452962 (OP)
They're trying, okay

>>104453386
Ah yes the west renowned for its quality vtubers like Ironlung and Filian

>>104453571
She, Subaru, and Lui, and a mix of some of the Dev:is crew are the inly ones who actually kinda care about getting some traction with English speakers. Funny that all the Japs were clammoring to 'learn English' with streams when EN had a higher CCV and sub count than all of them.

>>104452993
TRVKE

>>104452993
Actually vtubing was invented in the USA

>>104452993
Yes, I'm a guest, and I'm being served Japanese meatballs despite ordering American burgers.

>>104453688
>go to japanese restaurant
>wtf where is my american food??
stfu you fat cow

>>104453714
I didn't realize HololiveEN (as in ENGLISH) implied a Japanese-speaking audience.

>>104453714
>Japanese company opens restaurant in America
>Hires American staff
>Staff start opening the store at Japanese opening times and only speaking Japanese

>>104453736
theres lots of things you don’t realize you retard

Bait used to be believable.

>>104453736
Have you tried not being retarded

>>104452993
True, but Ame invented schedules

>>104453810
Good. They should do that specifically to make you mad

>>104452993
So why don't they stream on their own fucking platform? Sorry, they're the guests here

>>104453833
>u-ur retardeddede!
Fuck off back to twitter with your low-effort posts.

Because their employer doesn’t want them to know what’s going on outside of Japan.

Btw the guy who got shot was watching Vtubers?
My 4ch antenna is telling me he had some kind of weeb tendencies.

>>104452962 (OP)
Its a Japanese company and many english branch members really like their japanese senpai and their jp fans so its unsurprising that jp speaking en members occasionally stream in jp.

>>104453101
Lol yen is monopoly money

>>104453943
YouTube should close their japanese servers, delete the option to choose the japanese language in the settings and block Japan if they don't want japanese people on their site.

>>104453511
Ah yes, vtubing was so popular in the west before Kizuna Ai and hololive JP made it popular.
Also don't check who made Live2D, it was probably some american.

>>104452993
no they did not that was the annoying orange

>>104452962 (OP)
HoloEN is a side branch. Any Holo that actually values and appreciates being part of the company, will learn Japanese in order to interact with the real Holos. Just like Holo ID is viewed as lesser than EN, EN will always be seen as lesser compared to JP. In the world of vtubing, the Japanese will always be superior, and you should learn their language if you want to be a part of it.

>>104454840
EN makes up majority of the market share

Become a JP viewer. Ignore EN.

>>104452962 (OP)
Hololive EN btw

>>104454840
Nah EOPs don’t care about Japs that’s much different market at this point and if Cover wants to keep treating them as a side branch they will keep losing talents and good will of the fans

>>104454840
Except for a good year stint where every Jap talents was trying to suck off EN because they beat almost everyone to 1m subs and had higher CCV continuously, but you'll ignore that because you were likely one of the fags seething in /jp/ about it near hourly

>>104454997
The novelty wore off, look at them now. Can you say they were wrong.

>>104455152
Wasn't novelty, the branch was burned down from the inside. A mix of then pushing stars because they saw Niji boys doing well and not having more gens in quick succession was what really made the EN fanbase take a hit. JP was afforded 35 talents in 3 years, while EN only 11. Casual fans like big events, and hardcore fans like when their talent of choice is deep in them to create something. EN had no real ground to stand on, because not only did everyone live in different timezones, but also if a chunk of the branch didn't have time or want to participate, the project would be dead in the water. On the JP side, if 2/3rds of the talents didn't want to or couldn't commit a lot of time to building it up, like the summer festivals, you still had 5-10 people deep into it really working to make things cool. On the EN side, that would be 2-4 talents, which makes for a much less impactful collaborative effort that people can celebrate.
Omega was a gay nigger whose decisions have forever curbed the EN branch.

This post was probably made by someone who watches anime in English dubs, is a One piece fan and demands the removal of certain types of fan service and lolis. Give me a fucking break and jump down the stairs.

>>104455152
EN was literally sacrificed by Cover to lift JP back to the top. The HQ of hololive would be located in the US by now if that had not happened.

>>104455330
>the branch was burned down from the inside
By their own talents, including myth when they were by themselves. You will not memory hole the brapper's antics, the chicken moments and the ghosting among themselves.

>>104455468
No, by management and the JP talents.

Don't forget, the internet is full of poor browns and they're in this very thread seething over superior america.

>>104452962 (OP)
Considering the sheer amount of content we already get, the only reason to seethe about what little is missed is if you have crippling FOMO

Don't you faggots have jobs? How do you have time to consoom every English stream by your oshi and still have time left to spend getting mad about this shit

>>104455468
I can agree that they were a bit stiff and awkward with each other sometimes, and I think Mori bit the bait far too often. Doesn't change the fact that they were for all intents and purpose doing better than JP for a good stretch of time. Keeping hype with new members for the branch and increasing more bodies to do big events, which almost everyone likes, would have done wonders.

>>104452962 (OP)
Tell you what, let's everyone meet halfway and learn Mandarin

>>104452962 (OP)
Why can you just learn Japanese and finally stop being EOP?

>>104452993
the real first vtuber was technically the TF2 guy from like 2013, but I do believe the JP sphere has many more vtubers of quality in comparison to the west

>>104452962 (OP)
Why are EOP like this, vtubing started and thrives in Japan. The west is a complete afterthought for the market, its the same thing for anime/manga and other Japanese media where the foreign market is a secondary concern. Learn Japanese instead of trying to change what makes the medium great, its the same shit with people obsessing over garbage dub because they can't even be bothered to learn basic Japanese or read subs

>>104455794
>fuwamoco
>sheer amount of content

>>104456002
Maybe it's too little for your NEET ass, idk

>>104455330
>the branch was burned down from the inside. A mix of then pushing stars because they saw Niji boys doing well
Obsessed.

>>104456198
Obsessed with what? The fact that everyone at the tome of Stars EN announcement was hoping for another Hololive EN gen?

>>104452962 (OP)
brown weebs are just really pathetic
the same people that shit on EOPs for typing English in JP chats are now defending JOP fans for doing basically the same thing. They'd gladly be cucked as long as it was a superior nippon penis fucking their woman.

>>104453101
>hololive english
>all of the talent are English speakers from the west
>durrrr english speakers aren't the target audience!!
can you even tie your own shoes you fucking moron?

>>104456672
>anon cares about the opinion of brown people
ngmi
that said, if someone likes vtubers and Japanese stuff in general, learning a bit of Japanese won't hurt

>>104454782
not virtual. the v in vtubing btw.

>>104452993
>The west invented computers they're guest
>The west invented the internet they're a guest
>The west invented Youtube they're a guest

>>104456862
I wouldn't worry about it if I were you, you are clearly not from the west

>>104452993
holy shit weebs really are retarded

>>104456959
Classic deflection from a retarded weeabo

>>104457170
you are on a vtuber board and no matter how much you cry about it, it is tied to Japanese culture
outing yourself as an ironic weeb is not as cool as you think
just learn a bit of Japanese or watch girls who stream in English if it bothers you so much

>>104454782
Yes, editing footage of your irl face onto pictures is truly the essence of vtubing

>>104452993
FPBP
kek the amount of eop fags seething is unbelievably funny

>>104457170
Are you one of those ironic weebs?

>>104455832
>Doesn't change the fact that they were for all intents and purpose doing better than JP for a good stretch of time.
If you mean individually, sure. And let's be real, it takes a lot of effort to squander that, even more so when fans are willing to put up with a lot of bullshit. Generally speaking fans don't disappear even if the company is black as shit because who doesn't want to cheer for a good girl who's in a bad situation, so the logical conclusion is that the girls themselves did things that made their fans leave.
I hate omega as much as the next guy but you can't pin all the blame on that fag or the retarded management

>>104453511
But enough about the Chinese

>>104453511
>Pekora always just steals from everyone else holomems

>>104453673
Exactly
https://youtu.be/F3Gb571RE_A?si=88jy9FOuzQJ6TWGU

>>104456747
Many members of HoloEN don't speak English and the majority are not from the West unless you mean West of Japan.

>>104453101
Sanest take on /vt/ right now.

>>104452962 (OP)


>>104452993
FPBP

>>104453101
>Delete the EN and ID branch and everything will truck along just fine.
YAGOOOOOOOOO
DO THIS!!

>>104456275
Thinking Holostars was part of the downfall of the EN is retarded, especially because Advent had a huge boost.

>>104452962 (OP)
listen, they were always supposed to be JP
Yagoo just snuck them in the back door
we should be happy they bother with any EN content at all

>>104454609
>hololive JP made it popular
LOL
Delusional holoroach.

>>104458759
Newfag.

>>104458821
No need to introduce yourself.

>>104459003
List one EN vtuber that got popular before 2020.

>>104459099
Show me where I said anything about EN, dumb fuck.

>>104459482
Learn to read then, I was talking about the west vtubing scene, and hololive made it popular.

>>104452962 (OP)
Recycling the same pointless bait for 50th time again? Running low on (you)s from the Nimi/Saba threads?

>>104453688
Guess it's time to leave that restaurant then.

>>104459654
And you've replied to it. What does that make you? The king of losers.

>>104460122
A sag e reply counts as opposed to your brown ass bumping the thread?

>>104460193
Sageing is not a downvote, you dumbass newfag.
Any form of engagement is going to attract more replies by virtue of showing some form of activity, which is why you should just hide and ignore threads that you don't like.

>>104460257
It's mad.

>>104460257
NTA, but do you like this thread?

>>104460295
I like all on-topic threads, bait or not.

>>104460330
I see.
I wanna lick Biboo's gem.

>>104460418
*nods wisely*
>>>/sci/16727856

>>104452962 (OP)
agreed, nothing wrong with wanting to speak your countries language only, but as soon as you step into the interwebz you are a faggot if you dont at least try to speak decent english

t. german

>>104457315
Vtubing has nothing to do with japanese culture. Anime is american.

>>104454877
>>104454997
But the numbers tell a different story. Every EN member is struggling to even hit 4-view, while JP members have no problem pulling 20k CCV.

>>104453633
Don't be disingenuous. There are good EN Vtubers out there like Marimari_EN, Kiki Pyon, Chromuchromu and Fallenshadow.

There are other good Vtubers in Phase Connect too (but I know antis are going to come out of nowhere and shit on them unfairly)

>>104453633
>Dooby3D, Saba

>>104453511
Super Sonico was the first technical vtuber
>"No it was annoying orange!!11"
Live2D was invented in Japan.
>>104458759
Yes, Hololive did make it popular outside of Japan. Kizuna Ai pushed the starts of modern vtubing, Nijisanji was the biggest in Japan in 2017 and 2018 and western vtubers ruined it because all ewhores jumped on it and turned it into a shitfest.

>>104452962 (OP)
No, but really, why are japs unable to learn english when even the greasiest indian from a slum in Mumbai is able to do it?

>>104466539
For the same reason (You) wouldn't normally bother to learn a gay ass language like french. It's completely unnecessary for 99% of the population, they have all the stuff they want in nip already.

>>104455941
zeraxos my oshi...

>>104464996
>The only "good" EN vtubers he can name outside Hololive are ones he only knows because they were in Hololive in the first place
Grim. Doob and Saba kind of suck though personally I wouldn't say they're even close to the quality of Pekora or Miko in terms of how entertaining they are and variety of content

>>104468925
See
>>104464973

>>104452962 (OP)
Keep crying ENcel

>>104466539
Nice admission kek

>>104454997
There was never a single point in history where EN did better than JP. ENcels crying themselves to sleep everyday when reminded of this fact.

No one in this thread will ever be japanese, btw

>>104466539
A society with a strong enough culture can be completely insular and self-reliant. What does that say about your subhuman browngoloid culture pajeetbrown?

>>104453636
>when EN had a higher CCV and sub count than all of them
This never happened

>>104452962 (OP)
>EN Ruffian still seething two years later over being tricked into oshi-ing the JP telebubbies
At this point, you just enjoy pain. It was obvious they were JP members masquerading as EN from the very beginning. Fuwawa calling Mococo "Moco-CHAN" should have been your red flag. Plus, who the fuck else in EN is autistic enough to use honorifics religiously and refer to even fellow EN members as senpai and shit?

>>104464973
I wanted chromu in pc :( that was my wish... im living in a purgatory this year

>>104463483
Now? Yes. For a year and a half after Myth debut? Lol

yet another thread talking about ideas and topics that don't actually exist

>>104452993
The Annoying Orange

>>104459482
Dumb retard can't even read calling other people dumb lol