Thread 104644388

How does one person end up with so much motivation?
Is it parenting? How do you raise a Cecilia Immergreen from Hololive EN Justice spin to win?

It's called having a dream job

>>104644425
It's not like she learned all her music, language, game modding etc skills in the past year and a half. They came first, and before them came the sort of personality that pushes someone to learn and practice all that stuff. How do we replicate it?

green woman good
me likes green woman

>>104644388 (OP)
Supportive and protective environment and lots of resources. And probably some sort of unresolved trauma

>>104644494
Be a German.

>>104644388 (OP)
She suffered a lot in life and gained resilience

>>104644388 (OP)
CC and GG should’ve been part of Promise.

>>104644494
Once you are given the means, you will tend to pursue what it is that you desire. Although admittedly it also requires an overarching vision of what your end-goal with all of this is, so some kind of basic intelligence and discipline is needed. This holds especially true for creative types who need to refine their skills daily lest they lose what they have learned. Also, she's German. And Germans are the Japanese of Europe when it comes to work-ethic.

>>104644388 (OP)
by being German and failing to get into Gymnasium track for uni

shes a godsend. Everything she does is gold. I hope one day for a Long Hair toggle / Outfit. My Balls couldnt handle it but it would be worth it.

>>104644388 (OP)
People with easy childhoods and neurotypical minds (no adhd, no autism...) can achieve a lot in a short amount of time.

>>104646550
>no autism
About that…

>>104644897
The world was not yet ready for them

>>104644388 (OP)
Because she literally has nothing else going for her. She's the runt of her gen.

>>104646550
>no autism

Oddly enough having universal healthcare seems to correlate positively with happiness

>>104646688
I'd be the runt of my work too if I can get a productive work habit in return.

>>104646550
>no autism
>no adhd

>>104644388 (OP)
She's a renaissance (wo)man and an extrovert. That's basically it

>>104646615
>>104646704
>>104646926
Keeping to her "immersion" bit does not make her autistic. She's unironically the most neurotypical HoloEN next to maybe Kiara. Gigi is also normal brained even if she plays an abnormal character and talks like a zoomer. Actual autists would probably be Ame and Kronii (not Mumei like that one fag keeps claiming)

>>104647016
CC acts more autistic than her friend who was diagnosed with autism.

She has pretty much no output, what is OP talking about. No covers, no streams, no actual completed projects, what are you writing OP.

>>104647016
>Gigi is also normal brained
you've just thrown away your credibility. gigi has the tumblrina phenotype.

>>104644388 (OP)
German autism. German speakers can instantly recognize the kind of tenor and speech pattern she has as autistic.

>>104647176
In what way?

>>104647198
Normalfags can watch Teen Wolf too. She strikes me as someone neurotypical who plays up a zany, wacky character to appeal to autists so they can go "one of us!"

>>104644388 (OP)
TL:DR?

I haven't watched her since she was Missis Bean.

>>104647176
Most high-functioning autists learn to mask it.
Those who don't mask usually don't have autism and are just quirky.

>>104647220
Then how is she more socially competent than most Holo talent?
They can't all be even more autistic.
Can they?

>>104647357
she is still motivated after a year. that's literally it. apparently this is a rare feat for corpos. of course we remember when she was a streamer with low numbers and a miserable day job for several years and still stayed motivated through it all so this thread is nothing short of truly baffling to us. why shouldn't she be motivated now that she has success? why are other holos so lazy? we might never know

>>104647443
they can but they probably aren't. to solve your little riddle here: you don't know what autism is and you don't try to understand it past old stereotypes

>>104647735
>you don't know what autism is
I feel like if we've gone so far in redefining autism that difficulty with social interactions is a "stereotype" now then autism doesn't mean anything anymore.
But what do I know, I'm just a weird introvert with highly specific interests that nobody has bothered to slap any labels onto.

>>104647709
>she is still motivated after a year
Is that how it looks to you?

>>104646550
>no autism
>german

>>104647709
OP here, I'm not talking about her not burning out on Holo, all that takes is liking the job, I'm talking about her vast array of skills and enthusiasm about using them that few if any of her coworkers ever had to begin with.

>>104647264
>In what way?
I’ll remind you that she never watched the movie Cars because she was too obsessed and confused over the functionality of the character’s anatomy.

>>104647957
yes it looks like it pretty much. Her weekly timeout is health related and not because she has no motivation or is lazy (like other cunts).

>>104648433
I was taking about how she acts

>>104647016
>Kiara
Anon Kiara rm was such a lolcow she used to have a general on /cgl/

>>104644388 (OP)
anon, they all have motivation for a year or two. Soon she'll be a lazy cunt just like every other EN member, only with a worse, disgusting kraut voice

>>104644388 (OP)
"spin to win" isn't a part of her name

>>104645030
Doesn't she have a degree?

>>104647443
It's an illusion. A lot of vtubers are introverts. Autistic people don't have to be. So while the average holomem would rather wait to be talked to, CC just doesn't have the capacity to overthink social interactions. Being German who are notoriously blunt also helps.

>>104648842
/cgl/ is full of crab bucket autists. I wouldn't trust them to be the judge on anything.

>>104644388 (OP)
She actually likes her job. I know a lot of women think that playing video games for 2 hours a day in front of an audience is slave labor but some can appreciate when they have it good.

>>104644388 (OP)
>so much motivation
you're serious? her enthusiasm is so forced, all because if she's not working and pretending to have fun she has nothing going on in her life

Is this the ligger seethe thread?

>>104648885
yes it is

>>104650781
No, it's Raora's!

Too many zäpfchen as a kid

>>104644388 (OP)
She is a robutt it dont count

>>104650920
What?

>>104644388 (OP)
I'll give you the secrets anon. It's simple.
Ever heard of an negative feedback loop? Depression does that.
Now flip that around and you get a positive feedback loop. That's when success pushes you forward to achieve even greater success.

Cece is motivated motivation leads to result result motivates her
It all loops back and continues endlessly.

You thought the "Spin to Win!" was a fucking joke? Nah it's fucking life advice. Keep spinning! Don't stop!

>>104656783
Retarded

>>104646550
You were going this Jewish for this post.

She's just like me (frfr) so I can give the qrd.

>some intelligence & 'tism
she's yerman

>love of beauty with some openness
weeb but without the crass coomer part

>high disgust factor
this one has MULTIPLE and highly vital benefits, essentially driving health & honesty

>>104644388 (OP)
She's seen how bad the indie coal mines are, and never wants to go back.

>>104663159
Yet it was so much more fun

>>104663319
For us, probably not for her.

>>104648022
>vast array of skills and enthusiasm about using them that few if any of her coworkers ever had to begin with.
She knows violin, some piano, and speaks English well. What else? Sings and dances okay?

>>104663563
Wrong

>>104663563
She sounds tired 24/7

>>104663955
>>104663978
Ligger SEETHE

>>104664200
I feel sorry for you

>>104664200
Anon, she was not a ligger.
She was barely a 3view on a good day.

>>104665555
holy blessed quad quints czech my 5

>tfw you didn't learn about her until the holo debut
aieeeeeeee

>>104664200
Based

>>104646022
I too hope she gets an outfit someday.

>>104644763
did she?

>>104647016
gigi is not at all normal brained...

>>104647197
kill yourself ligger

>>104664200
liggers never watch any stream

>>104666249
We know what anon meant. He meant typical foidbrained. We know foids don't have normal working brains.

>>104647016
Isn't Ame more adhd?

>>104665636
she really well archived
t. otomo that started watching her archives recently

>>104644388 (OP)
QRD?
I haven't paid attention to cc since debut.
Has she been doing a bunch of cool things?

>>104667628
not this year

>>104667628
She keeps getting roped into company mandated projects, making her too worn out to be creative on stream.

>>104667348
Definitely ADHD as well but 100% some kinda 'tism with how she is with making numbers look pleasant to her insane brain

>>104668888
That's her own fault. She said she started 3 projects and didn't finish any on time in her japan arc.

>>104669800
why do you keep samefagging and lying about this

>>104647016
>Keeping to her "immersion" bit does not make her autistic
You haven't watched any of her streams have you?

>>104669895
First time i mentioned it shizo. Go watch streams.

>>104670167
that was just me giving her an orgasm on stream why would I also be watching it at the samet ime

>>104644388 (OP)
A symptom of ADHD is hypercuriosity, to the point of procrastinating on other things just because something piqued your interest. Couple that with the necessary intelligence to actually know how to figure shit out and make them work and you get someone of Cecillia's caliber.
It's not motivation necessarily, she's just on a suitable environment for her to thrive, and that's probably the issue of everyone struggling with motivation.

>>104644897
instead of bae and kronii

>>104644388 (OP)
german work ethic

>>104644763
>rich parents
>suffered a lot

>>104646550
>CC
>neurotypical

>>104668888
>getting roped into
She says herself she likes to have a lot on her plate so if she's overworked it's her own choice

>>104644388 (OP)
>How does one person end up with so much motivation?
Huh? Just a few months ago people were complaining about CC never finishing games? They expected a creative beast out of the block but CC trailed off and got comfy

>>104673304
Unironically yes. Most rich kids are neglected, isolated or outright abused as kids. It's part of why most rich people grow up to be weird and deluded. Being comfortably middle class is enough to never worry about your basic needs being met growing up, but the jump from middle to upper class just traps you with unaccountable weirdos and a bunch of meaningless luxuries you're too young to appreciate. Obviously it's better to be raised rich than destitute but rich people are all insane and always make terrible parents.

>>104647016
most normies aren't fujos.

>>104644388 (OP)
Hire a small indie
That's it. They'll be like this until they inevitably burn out from all the non-streaming activities you force them to do.

>>104648885
Shut the fuck up, Cheebs.

>>104644388 (OP)
She's a member of the Master race
hope this helps

>>104683432
Most streamers game on pc, but few get as much done as her.

Why do so many anons here not know what autism or ADHD is? Get yourself tested. Have you seen a stream with all of her ticks? Even when it's just yap, she cannot sit still and has to move in game or do something on the side. The only exposure some of you have with autism is calling someone online that.

>>104675548
CC does do a lot but she also leads plenty of stuff unfinished
Like >>104671541 said she's too ADHD so she tends to switch interests on a whim and then procrastinates the other stuff she started
I know some of the games she dropped were because the backseaters were too annoying for her though (Majora's Mask etc)

>>104644425
That Raora tweet hits really hard... i didn't know to get this happy for a person i don't even know.

>>104673304
>rich parents
Source?

>>104684653
Most people can't even differentiate between ADD and ADHD

>>104681839
at holo, talents don’t get fired even if they refuse to work, and they can take as much time off as they want.
so, which holo are you talking about?

>>104685564
She was forced to play an instrument and lived outside the city surely that must mean she is rich nobility

>>104686402
I don't know if your sarcastic or serious with this.

>>104685532
>That Raora tweet hits really hard
>the fakest and effortless tweet imaginable
what a sucker

>>104686402
Counterpoint, growing up she lived in an apartment.

>>104644388 (OP)
You do what they do to cheat with race and show horses to make them more lively before sale or a big race: shove a stick of shaved ginger up their arses.
I think Holos should be subjected to this as a matter of principle before Fes for that extra spring in their step.
I volunteer my services as a ginger-shover for free, particularly for the following idols:
>Sora
>Suisex
>Asskey
>Shuba
>Peko
>Towel
>Eroha
>Jimmy
>Mori
>SexRyS
>Kronii
>Zogogo
>Cece
anyone else and I'd have to charge, mind, although the Chicken can get it in her front cloaca for a discount.

>>104644388 (OP)
Just spin to win https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw44JdK3p9k

>>104688446
You know that only a few Holos actually sing 100% live on Fes, right? You can actually count them with your hand

>>104671541
I see everyone calling it automatism, and sure she might have some, but nothing has struck me more about her since dbut than her clear and strong ADHD.
>reliance on deadline-panic
>constantly switching between interests
>until one really grabs her, and then she can't focus on anything else
>constantly distracted by physics objects
>easily distracted by conversation topics
>>104685607
Clinically, there is none. "ADD" is just to make parents feel better when their kid has ADHD but doesn't act out in school, "don't worry he's one of the good ones". The hyperactivity is still there, but it often manifests as a mental hyperactivity (scatterbrained, rapidly moving between interests) instead of the normal fidgeting or acting "hyper"

>>104644388 (OP)
This is sarcasm

>>104687409
lmao I was thinking something along those lines

>>104647016
>>104643213
If you two are going to keep denying reality then I'm going to keep saying Mumei is unironically autistic.

>>104694859
but she is autistic

>>104663159
How fucking tall holy shit

>>104698951
>Giantess

>>104688917
>Suisei
>Mori
>Sora
>Azki
>fuckin Ollie
>Aki
>Nerissa
>FWMC
>IWyS
>Risu
>Kanata
And that's just from my head
They have gone up, they also aim for more life singing across the board, All for One had way more life performances than Breaking Dimensions

>>104694859
Hoo?

>>104699369
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M2gwJ-7s0Zo&pp=ygULTXVtZWkgZGVidXQ%3D
You missed out dude.

>>104698951
Literal giantess

>>104698951
She's 6 meters tall, the image isn't to scale

>>104687409
>measuring the meaning and weight of a tweet by how many words are in there