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Infinity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mj2QJE-UOI
BUTA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWd6cpvnfd0
Girl with pink hair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDJtcmSbyUA
ECHO 【Cover】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8TnOhIxN90
ブタサンダー【Cover】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GozEv0IruEE
Boo!【Cover】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXasW1OSb10
Ban RTA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WphWiNYbzk
撲殺天使ドクロちゃん【Cover】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0DBq0wuk0I
5th Single【 Who2 】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11wxYePRtYY
めちゃゴミ完全食!! : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbwwnZLfLew
モニタリング/赤井はあと×ロボ子さん(cover) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q5Q4pa89rs
モエチャッカファイア/赤井はあと×星川サラ(cover)【歌ってみた】 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6jtnpzklOQ
かわいいだけじゃだめですか?/赤井はあと×水宮すう(cover) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT6AdbV1Rbo
ふ･れ･ん･ど･し･た･い / ホロライブ1期生 (cover) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R-6VsimnsQ
感触 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPVnvaBjQI0
お人形 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6jeNGNExWA&list=OLAK5uy_kspgeUCf1P-6mo2CC40Yjw3unti5USLXo
じぶんROCK / 赤井はあと(cover)【ONE OK ROCK】 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgKlerazTDk
チェリーポップ / 赤井はあと(cover)【DECO*27】 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfwk5m_zwv8
Latest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbmN18q1yDE

Sex with depressed Haachama

I love Haachama

I think she needs a mental health break.
But like, to actually dedicate herself to improving her mental health. Learn yoga (physical and mental), find a good psychiatrist, get into cognitive behavioral therapy, regularly get eight hours of sleep, get in touch with nature, meditate, take the necessary meds (or do shroom/LSD therapy), address her trauma...
You know, actual healing stuff.

I will give it exactly one week before i call it a hiatus. After that you better start rolling for push-ups or else

I love Haachama

>>106072758
Yes, she clearly is in a depressed or manic state but you heard her yesterday, there is no way she is going back to the hospital.
A health break in a sanitarium somewhere in nature where she can move freely, go hiking et al. would be great.
But that's a pipedream I fear
>>106072923
There is no way there is no info within a week. I give it until Friday at most and hope for the best

>>106072923
Bring it on pig. I need to get in shape anyway.

She just needs a good dicking

>>106073357
I will take one for the team.
I will even let her beat me up, which I will totally hate!

>>106073357
this, women just need a good cock and some money, they aren't that deep

I hope she comes back soon, so we can all show her our love

>>106073357
Her getting ran a train on by all her haaton should be enough

>>106073711
I'm not a woman but, I mean. yeah, I can live with that

>>106073757
My name is "all her haaton" btw.

>parasocial men who don't want these women to find love
>surprised the women become mentally ill without a good dicking
>oh no how could this happen

>>106073826
women are weak, I never had sex and me and my 12 personalities are mentally very healthy

now where did I put my vibrating Twilight Sparkle fuckdoll

May the Chama always be happy and healthy wherever she is.

>>106072960
As someone who has been in a mental hospital: those places don't help at all.
Nature retreat would indeed be the best option.

>>106074997
They do help, but in an extremely improbable way. If it's during an episode, with staff that somewhat cares, medication that works (in case they stopped), and people RNG lands them with normal if depressed people. From what Chama said, it sounded like she had an easy time talking to people there. Of course the problem is those people have similar issues and you would want to talk to people who don't have issues but understand you.
tl;dr It would work for an episode like the one she had but she needs her (supposed) friend to talk to her long-term and keep that in mind for there to be any progress. Can't just throw someone in the ward and expect it to do something.

>>106075143
The number one issue is that she went off her meds. Quitting cold turkey (especially if they were SSRI) is going to cause a spiral. Don't know if she was doing it, but she should have been seeing a professional therapist this entire time as well. Considering she doesn't have anyone to talk to or consistent friendships, she definitely needs to be seeing a therapist so she can talk about her issues

God, why must twitter show me J*panese anti posts on my fucking homepage. They're always so daft too

>>106070770
Is Who2 really only 8 months old? Feels like it's been a lot longer. Still, she's really been feeling like this for a long time...

Is the Pepeloni okay

>>106076685
No

>>106076745
Damn it.

Was the 3D Live stream later with Subaru and the JP bunch prerecorded or did Haachama go to work a few hours after the privated stream?

>>106077736
Pre-recorded well in advance

>>106077755
Aw.

Haachama needs to dedicate herself to martial arts

Haachama needs to dedicate herself to marital arts so she can marry me

>>106078000
I will gladly let her kick my knees backwards if it can cheer her up.

Haachama should commit a series of increasingly gruesome murders (all me)

How will you save her?

>>106073711
Stop making this about your dick ffs

>>106072758
From the translations I've seen, I don't think she'll even begin to recover until she cuts her terrible fucking family out of her life. With the way they treat her and the things they say, especially her dad, any healing she could accomplish would just be undone the second she gets back home.

>>106072960
>Yes, she clearly is in a depressed or manic state
The crying then laughing then crying flip flop during the 10hr karaoke the day before should've been enough of a warning if her manager was fucking paying attention.
I can't even bear to look at anything anymore, but did anyone watch the stream with Matsuri a few hours before the lego?

>>106079432
Chances are she's not picking up her manager's calls

>>106079432
Yeah, she was pretty quiet, somewhat subdued, Matuli was more energetic. It's pretty obvious she only acts out when she is streaming on her own. Don't think Festival knew what was coming, at least not the extent

Chammers, how are we feeling? I'm expecting the worst because Haachama clearly and deliberately broke her NDA multiple times last night. I don't see how she can recover from this. Sending love from a Hooman. My advice from someone who's already lost their oshi is to mentally prepare yourselves for the worst. Hope for the best while expecting the worst. That way, if the worst case scenario does materialize, it doesn't hurt as bad because you were expecting. I strongly urge all of you Chammers to archive as much of her content as you can because she likely doesn't have much time left.

>>106078000
Which one though

>>106080550
haarate

Is there a translation of anything what Haato said. I am worried and don't understand the context of what is going on, just want my oshi to be okay.

>>106080826
about a 1000 if you're not lazy

>>106079658
A lot of the things you think were nda breaches she never actually said. For someone spiraling she didn't actually say as much as people think. Others have said similar things but in more sober contexts. I think she'll just get suspended a bit while she gets herself back together.

If she graduates it won't be till next year.

Riceball here
Hope the chama is ok
Stand strong

>>106081090
Thank you, she could use a riceball right now.

>>106081641
Ru-tan...

IRyStrocrat here, hope Chama is okay. She was one of the reasons why I ever learned about Hololive through her cooking videos. I really always appreciated her English. Good luck.

Haachama here, I hope Haachama is doing fine, stay strong haatons

>>106081922
i belieb this post

everything will be fire

>>106083775
huh? she's still a pngtuber? are they scared to invest in that role now

Goodnight pigs, hoping for no bad news when I wake up

>>106081009
Idk about that anon...
>>106076670
>>106072525

>>106084328
Me too but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I have an exam tomorrow too so I'm just gonna completely unplug from the internet until after it just because I feel like today is the day they would announce something.

where is she...

>>106079432
the conversation was a bit wild but not too bad. She said she had her first kiss with a girl in primary school. 4th grade.
That girl , same age as her, apparently also showed her adult vids.

That's where Matsuri said ok, we're moving on to the next marshmallow, lol

>>106084780
Reading this bullshit makes me more confident than ever that she'll be fine. Thank you for sharing.

i watched the stream, honestly i dont think it was that bad and this is all overblown. im not saying she wont face repercussions or a reprimand, but i really doubt we'll see forced termination.

>>106085942
Yeah I also don't believe anything will come from their end. It'll just depend on how Chammers decides to move forward

>>106084780
>AI slop based off an ai translation of an imperfect transcript that ignores context
No.
I'll just wait.

>Antidepressant discontinuation syndrome, or antidepressant withdrawal, is a condition that can occur following switching, reducing, or discontinuing an antidepressant medication following its continuous use of at least a month.[5]
>The symptoms may include dizziness, vertigo ... insomnia, nausea ... sensory changes, "brain zaps", emotional lability or extreme emotional changes, rage, suicidal ideation, akathisia, intrusive thoughts, depersonalization, and derealization, mania, anxiety, depression, and flu-like symptoms.[

>>106086555
>akatishia

I fucking knew Itachi was behind this

>>106072758
she already does yoga and some other reps every morning (source: THIS VERY STREAM), that made her "learn a lot about herself" - my opinion, made it worse, because if this stream taught me one thing, she is severely fucked in the head. Narcicistic personality disorder AT LEAST, add some paranoia (she talked about everything existing to kill her in her trauma dump at the end (~5hrs) plus she also got told Schizophrenia, although that one might just be the multiple personalities thing which may or may not be just an act.
Adressing her trauma she herself said can ONLY happen on stream because she has nobody else to talk to, she literally listed almost every single person in her life and ruled them out, beginning with her deadbeat father who ran away, her mom and sister who blame her for it, all schoolmates who SHE found not worthy and didn't talk to, that one girl who she decided to entirely ignore when she speaks because she hated her voice, her first foster family in 'straya because she was shoved into 3 boys and they found her weird, the hospital staff because her meds are scary and she can't drink coffee with them, the hospital staff AGAIN because they caught her after she tried to run (she excessively described the "cell" they kept her in, sounded like psyche ward), the police for handling her rough, other holo talents for never inviting her, and even her goddamn fans for "not understanding her".
She also smugly said she was acting her entire personality for 7 years.
t. I spent 4 hours watching the goddamn thing and have N2. Treat all of this as rumors, confirm yourself, the one summary that floats around with the english writing is ACCURATE, I checked. It does leave out a LOT.

>>106078170
I don't get why she doesn't just move out, and can only imagine her money being transferred to some form of family account. She also hinted that she pays the rent for the family.

>>106072923
>>106072960
Mio briefly talked about it playing clover pit, ~31:20 ish.
Basically the holos were told by management that management will take care of it, so whoever is silent decides to let management handle it.
The reason being here that she did say one thing in particular she could reasonably be sued for, that thing being she heard a RUMOR inside holo that YAGOO gave Shion more sponsorships, because she cancelled high school to be there.
She didn't name any other holos explicitly, and the one time she mentioned FBK was when chat told her she's watching and commented (which was a nothingburger talking about the content originally planned)

>>106075143
>>106075760
she went off her meds because coffee would cause side effects. She had a fall-out with her mom who actually took her kettle away earlier (later in the stream she does cook water in her room however, she did not make a lot of sense this stream).
Also she bragged about being on good terms with the patients and the nurses, but I'd bet the patients around you will do their best to not anger the sperg, and the nurses are professionals to chain-smoke after work just to get it out of their systems. Figures those are the only people she would get along with. She still hated the "hospital" (the locked door kinda gave away it was a psych ward, and her describing banging on the walls screaming certainly didn't make me think it was a general hospital either)

>>106079450
she said this latest stream that she doesn't read incoming contact anymore. She DEFINITELY got something from her manager.
She later DID state "next stream" would be "tomorrow" (today), while also acknowledging she wants it all to end, can't graduate for some reason (she thinks this because YAGOO sou desune'd musing about the general statement that most graduates went indie, SHE took it like a subtle suggestion to get the fuck out asap so he doesn't have to care anymore)

>>106086688
>Akatishia
Thats my Jamaican aunt from Queens.

>>106081009
>>106084780
certified AI slop moment. The "not getting paid" bullshit she also tweeted before, and everybody watching streams knows this is usually code for "I have a big project lined up and cover gave me a 0% interest loan to do the project, which will later be deducted from wages".
That's not an NDA breach, someone else said it and still streams.
She never said any names explicitly, and none of the shit she talked on the company was precise enough to draw ANY conclusions.
The one thing they SHOULD bonk her for is mentioning the RUMOR (!) inside the company that Shion got preferential treatment with sponsorships from YAGOO due to her being a high school dropout.
Aside from THAT, and I bet Mio is referring to that incident, aside from all the "please abduct me, anyone" and "I want it all to end" and "I usually sit on the veranda now and try to lean over it as much as I can without falling" VERY OBVIOUS RED FLAGS FOR ANYONE WITH A BRAIN, there was nothing of concern, especially not in legal regards.
The ONE thing I'd think pulls weight in Japan is spreading rumors. That's it.
That said, it's basically up to her whether she continues or not if management decides a hiatus is enough, but she strongly sounded like she wants to graduate and fuck off to ANYWHERE ELSE because she FEELS (!!!) bullied. Which is a theme going through all of her life, frankly.

>>106087376
Bomboclaaat :D

>>106087099
>she went off her meds because coffee would cause side effects.
Interesting, I don't recall my psychiatris telling me not to drink coffee when I was on SSRIs

>>106087417
RASSKLAT! RUDE BWOI SELEKTAH! POP! POP! POP! BRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
(I'm Europan btw)

>>106085942
>>106086069
i can actually see this becoming a termination because i got reminded of what Eugene said about Rushia's termination. to paraphrase:
>she could have gotten away with it if Hololive was still a small company. but she had to go because the company is too big and organized now
what Haachama did might not be damning to Yagoo and he might wanna save her so their mistake with Rushia won't happen again, but certainly investors would demand for Chama's head for being a brand risk and he will be forced to fire her. if not outright termination, she'll be given an Ao-style graduation.

either way, all we can do is wait for the outcome.

Japanese here. It was so obvious she was having a schizophrenic episode and it's not a matter of who's bad or wrong, as she isn't seeing the world as we do anymore. It's so painful to see her like this. her saying "someone please take me away from this" was so desperate

>>106087622
Ah yeah sure, just rule out everything she said, including detailed childhood and family matter as 100% delusions and get away with it, you actually proving her words

>>106088006
Japan doesn’t do mental health.
Sometimes people flip a switch and disappear, or kill themselves, and nobody know why.

>>106078163
he said good cock, cant be talking about his tiny schmeat

>>106087099
When she was away that time I knew it was psych ward. It sounded too memey to even state explicitly but I'm sure most of you itt knew it too when she was gone for so long with no explicitly stated health reason.
She put up a brave face for us because she wants to entertain, but damn there was a storm brewing just off screen every time she clicked end stream.
Poor Chama. I hope that her "friends", whoever they are, actually meet her in person. She needs some positive human contact right now and that horrid stream, if anything, was a cry for help if I'd ever heard one.

>>106088541
The type of friends you make at a psych ward are not actually people you want in your life long-term for health reasons (theirs and yours). The problem is she doesn't see normal humans as possible friends, which is why she doesn't have any. It's not actually that uncommon a problem, it's just rare in someone who accidentally found themselves so publicly successful.

>>106088541
What would have triggered her being put in such a place? Did her mom and sister sic the police on her with some overly negative report? If not a report from someone else, would her having a moment out in public lead to being sent to such a place?

>>106088006
bruh I'm not denying her family issue. It's clearly the cause of her condition and I'm sorry for her. What I mean is you can't take seriously every word by word of someone who keeps saying "they are trying to kill me".

>>106088541
Damn so she's actually in institution? That's mental.

>>106088953
Not exactly
She probably opened up to her doctor, who had her locked in a hospital for months. Japan does that, they're retarded.

>>106089235
This sounds all too plausible. Horribly plausible.
I hate it.

>>106089235
that would happen to you everywhere if you gave your psychiatris a good reason to believe that you're going to rope yourself on their watch

What kind of venom do you need in your soul to use this moment of weakness from Haachama to try and destroy her, fuck all these gaslighters just making shit up from her stream and posting it as fact.

I just keep refreshing twitter waiting for news.

>>106089560
Yeah like 20 years ago, you seriously think that Haachama was a threat to herself back then? Seems like they just made everything worse, and people will be incentived to never ne truthful with doctors.

>>106089705
who the hell knows? She's a woman hiding behind a 2D character that sometimes shares tiny fragments of her real life online.

>>106089569
Genuinely vile people

>>106089560
As someone who was shocked to find myself on suicide watch a handful of times over the decades I assure you nobody actually gives a fuck and the only way you could actually end up in something like that long-term is your guardians surrendered you over. If it's against your will and you are a legal person, it's more the equivalent of a police interrogation and then you can go free.

>>106090159
fine, I'll trust the expert

>>106088006
>including detailed childhood and family matter as 100% delusions
Most people that have a maniac episode tend to exagerate the events when recalling them. I believe the 'Straya family were cunts or racist to her, but probably more in a 'subtle' way than the cinderella type way she disclosed yesterday

good night bros, i imagine tomorrow i wake up to the end of chammers idol dream

>>106090312
You don't know what a manic episode is. Manic means delusions of grandeur and self-importance, the opposite of Haachama's unipolar depression.

>>106090312
Also, she didn't say her family was racist, it was Australians in general (she stayed with asians she was related to)

something hilarious about nips calling other countries racist, well asians in general really

>>106090516
true, they should call other racist countries 'based'

>>106090516
Xenophobia isn't racism
Asian racism = snobby and looking down on others
White racism = pure hate

Even assuming she's able and willing to keep being Haachama (and that her continuing to stream isn't a bad idea), things can't stay the same. I don't want anyone to act like this never happened; I want her to be able to address these things again when she's in her right mind. I want to hear the accurate version of her feelings. I want her to live honestly.

we may or may not start a nuclear war

>>106090559
Kill yourself.

>>106091776
ok vladimir, go back to bed

>>106091858
fuck you chuddy

>>106091984
Go be brown somewhere else.

im done
goodbye friends

>>106092125
See you tomorrow!

>>106092012
the irony...

>>106092148
DO NOT REDEEM THE RACISM SAAR

Hmm. I'm thinking I'll order the Haachama today.

Any news of Haachama? That schizo stream left me seriously worried

>>106092531
The only news I'm aware of is >>106086966

>>106091384
I feel exactly the same way.

why would anyone be racist towards this asian cutie?

>>106093963
she's been tainted by non-asian cocks

>>106094077
Yeah, mine and my shadow clones'

>Her father wanted a boy and was angry haachama was born instead
>Her mother once told her she wishes Chama was never born
>Her father complains that he sent her to all these schools and yet her english is still shit (She has said this one on other streams as well)
>One of her university friends at school was only friends with her because she knew that Haachama was a vtuber and was trying to take advantage of her
>Her high school friends were fake friends that typically isolated her when it came to hangouts and whatnot

>Half of her schizo meltdown was complaining about her family
>Not a single one of these AI slop translations ever mentions this part of the rant. Instead pretending her whole stream was calling Cover a Black Company.
Literally Zhang antis. I'm not even going to give this one to western schizos

Didn't see anyone mention it. Does else think the emergency Girl's night out Kson alluded to may have been for Haachama? Guutara was there too. I hope it was.
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1983628186551488546

>>106089560
>that would happen to you everywhere if you gave your psychiatrist a good reason to believe that you're going to rope yourself on their watch
This is true.
In Leaf-land if it is believed you actually want to kill yourself, the government/police can forcibly lock you in a hospital for up to 72 hours without a diagnosis.
But in those 72 hours a doctor can write up an explanation of why you are crazy (temporarily or otherwise) and then hold you for longer.

That's why Dokibirds attempt was credible. She was police-forced into a hospital for 3 days.

>>106094477
Isn't Haachama not in Japan right now?

>>106094475
>Zhang antis
Chinese people are fucking bugs. Literal hivemind insects that spread their ass for Winnie The Zhu and the government. Pathetic creatures, truly.

genuinely how hard is it to make friends when you're a girl?

>>106094738
you will make lots and lots and lots of acquaintances who will all hug you and call your their bestie.
Every single one of them will stab you in the back if it benefits them.

>>106094738
Girls are never genuinely friends with each other.
Guys can hate a guy and still be friends.

>>106094738
it's quite hard when all your friends end up wanting to fuck you

>>106094477
>>106094537
Yeah I'm not sure if she's home either but pretty sure this was with NotChoco only. It does have a high amount of views on it so other people might have had similar thoughts

>>106094738
Very hard. Guys want to be more than friends, and women are conditioned to see other women as competition. And even if you do make friends with women, they're more likely to drop you once they meet a man and start a family than men are with other men. Men value friendships, women value babies, houses, money.

>>106094537
I keep hearing this but I'm not sure why this is a rumor. I haven't seen anything that gives any real solid evidence that she isn't in Japan. She did all that Mt Fuji stuff and tweeted pictures ostensibly from other places in Japan.

>>106094477
https://x.com/kanameai/status/1983633867979551037
Another one Kson's friends was also present, so I'm not sure if it was for Chama or not. Then again, she (or someone) might've had enough presence of mind not to include her hand in the shot.

>>106094738
Girls commonly seem far less genuine with their friendships than men. It's not that there aren't genuine female friends (obviously), but you need to find ones that weren't raised to be catty, back-stabbing bitches. Hololive has a lot of genuinely good people in it, but Haachama clearly has trust issues bordering on schizo levels, so I don't think she was ever going to keep or maintain friendships in Holo. I feel like she has some kind of personality disorder on top of blatant mental illnesses that causes it

>>106094790
Kinda only thinking it because she showed up in Kson's stream last week. And I have to wonder if that was an early warning sign to all this yknow.

>>106094875
Also her setup for that stream was a lot to travel with. Embroidery kit, Legos, mic, audio mixing board, computer, video camera -- not impossible, but also she's clearly not in a hotel looking at the furniture.

>>106094954
Oh i didn't know Ai was there too. I could see her being close to both Kson and notchoco but idk about Ai.

>>106094776
>>106094777
>>106094789
>>106094874
>>106095000
YWNBAW

>>106095260
Wouldn't wanna be one either, amen

It's clear from the pics haachama isn't involved. I don't think she is actually still close with KSON. Or anyone. That's why she broke down after all. Fubuki is the only person who seemed even bothered by it and she was probably thinking of it more from a company perspective. Haachama needs a good therapist. I think having someone whose whole job it is to be there for you is better for someone like haachama than a friend who most likely will betray her.

>>106095260
I guess you would know, seeing how you're a tranny and all. Too bad you already cut your dick off faggot

>>106095260
thanks god, I'd have rerolled

>>106094954
none of the hands match chama's so idk if she's really there.

>>106095000
The funniest girls and the ones who easily connect with an otaku audience are gay, meaning the most successful vtubers are gay, meaning hololive is dominated by and selects for gay women. Throwing a young woman into that environment is like putting a sheep in a wolfs den.

>>106095322
>Unironically advertising therapists/psychiatrists

https://youtu.be/EULynGtVskU

I would be friends with Haachama. It is a shame the language barrier is in the way.

>>106095260
Good. I don't want to be.

>>106095493
I mean, there's a lot of straight (or bi) talents too. I think a lot of the yuri stuff is just business yuri. It's not like fubu is lesbian for example

>>106095642
Her English never was a problem, c'mon. Also do your reps.

>>106087622
>Japanese here
get the fuck out of here now

https://x.com/ksononair/status/1983765461713219596
kson will have a Tier 2 mengen in 7 hours. also みんなとにかく健康優先だよ!!!!

>>106095713
This is the equivalent of a male only musical theatre company, yeah some guys aren't going to be gay but the overall culture and strange power dynamics are going to make things weird for a young boy. Vtubing is very closely aligned with gaming and gaming strongly selects for gay girls.

I mean who wouldn't go insane when you're expected to behave an idol persona on the internet since 16? The most heartbreaking thing from the last stream was how she's well past her limit, but her mannerisms 'in character' was somehow still there.

>Why doesn't Haachama act like herself?
Perfect stream to showcase why

>>106096104
Monetizing this is fucked up!!!

If she somehow survives this I promise I will be a better pig

>>106098191
more like better-tasting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoQ3KJ7kv40
What do you think about this orange Chama

>>106088787
3 years ago she would've been 20, might be first contact with alcohol went wild or really whatever else. She said on stream the year she physically couldn't leave straya due to covid fucked her up, that should be somewhere there. The "China thing" (Coco) she also explicitly mentioned (as "the china thing", no t-word this time), I'd suggest one or both of those.

>>106092843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGeitwJ_wY0&t=3108s
just so you know I'm not full of shit

>>106095047
>>106094537
Her latest Photos (the bikes in the alley, the chinese restaurant, the random buildings, late in the "forbidden stream") could easily be tracked down to Roppongi.

>>106097567
more like she just wanted it to be discussed behind loyal members because it's certainly about Haachama's situation.

>>106099040
I mean we know she regularly uploads pics of trips she's done beforehand, it doesn't mean she's there right now

>>106099098
Maybe something like, Please stop involving me with mental illness people

It's past 5 PM in Japan right now so I doubt Cover will make an announcement today and ruin the mood for prime time. Let's assume no news is good news and keep on keeping on, pigs.

>>106100141
Brother may i have some Chama?

>>106087518
I don't know if they are SSRI's, but one of my friends got some meds for his depression and was warned to avoid anything stronger than a single cup of tea with the meds (again, IDK which meds).

>>106100137
Tomorrow 4 p.m. is a critical time, right before the weekend is where you bury bad news

>>106087589
Terminating Haachama is a greater brand risk, because if that leads to something drastic by Haachama post-graduation, the ethos of Hololive will be shaken and won't recover. That will be the beginning of the end.

>>106101390
Tomorrow is Holowitches concert.

terminating after such a stream would be a PR nightmare

>>106101474
>>106101458
regardless of the PR fallout, Cover is obligated to do it because of their legal obligations to the investors. even if Yagoo wants to save Haachama, if the investors decide she is a brand risk and must be disposed immediately, he has no choice but to do it. A-chan already implied it when Rushia was terminated.

>>106101517
I think they'd rather force a graduation than terminate in this case

>>106101474
Yeah, firing a woman who is pretty clearly asking for help right away would not be a good look for them. Like another anon said I'd expect her to get the Ao treatment with mental health "hiatus" -> silent graduation 6 months later. I hope the outcome is actually better than that and Haachama actually can come back but that's my "realistic" expectation.

Important Announcement

https://youtu.be/mcJe1OoJMNM

>>106101570
You fucking nigger
lol

>>106101474
it could even become national news and a discussion on how Japan deals with mental health. if Cover decides to be a retard over this, they could commit a yab equal to Kizuna Ai's clone yab.

>>106101517
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, lmao

>>106101517
What I ̶w̶a̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ see is that Cover has a responsibility to help Haachama because they once failed to save her back in the Taiwan incident. The public could even presume her mental instability was due to this, further placing the onus on Cover.

Theirs legal justification to do it and justification to not do it. no point worrying its been basically decided how its going now.

>>106101668
i wish, but Cover is not really known for having a perfect record when it comes to business decisions.

>>106101764
You having no idea what you're talking about and cover not being perfect are not mutually exclusive.

>>106101764
That's true, but he's right in that you have no idea whatsoever what you're talking about.

>>106101744
and how do they do that? Hire actors to buy her sololive tickets because all of her own viewers got bored of waiting yet-another-mental-break hiatus to end?

>>106101827
kill yourself

>catalogshitters stealing posts from this thread to make shit OP's
these people have a pathetic life

>>106101837
>kys numbermonkey
it's a business, not a charity

>>106101517
I keep seeing this incredibly juvenile take ls on how companies work. As if "The Investors", are some kind of nebulous entity that infests every nook and cranny of Cover HQ and micromanages every little fucking thing. No you morons, they don't. Investors don't get to decide shit. There aren't constant votes on every single thing that needs deciding on in a company and investors don't go screeching and starting and demanding shit as if it's twitter irl. "The Investors" vote for a someone to make the decisions and steer the company on their behalf, the CEO, they do not micromanage and demand and they have no say beyond annual general meetings. Since Yahoo is the single largest individual shareholder that ensures he'll vote for himself to continue being the guy that says what goes. Guaranteed that "the investors" don't know shit about this event and wouldn't care either since they've left it to the CEO to deal with the day-to-days, especially since Cover stock would be just a tiny blip on their overall portfolios. You don't obsesses about and micromanage a miniscule fraction of your portfolio when more important shit is present.

What worries me isn't muh investorzz!!!11 but rather whether or not the legal dept detected any possible breaches of NDA that cannot be ignored, like that happened with poor Mel.
That is the real concern and the fact that this whole thing has driven a greater wedge between Chama and the other talents, making any reconciliation and reintegration much more difficult.

>>106102046
I never called you a numbermonkey. Is this a Freudian slip? Go back to /#/ or better yet, kill yourself.

>>106101517
>if the investors decide she is a brand risk and must be disposed immediately
Because immediately banishing a girl crying for help is such a good look for them, right?
The best "PR move" would be for Cover to declare that they will take the matter with utmost seriousness and that Haachama *will* return.
Shit, anon, people with mental problems need to have others who can stir them in the right direction. Letting them be with their demons is just enabling their unhealthy behavior.

It's still heartbreaking she considers Roboco only a work friend at best. Her case hit me personally the hardest...
please, please make up

You chuuba will be ok because I would be sad if she wasn't

>>106101827
If the past hiatuses didn't result much positively, and that she has self-isolating tendencies, another mental health break is now a bad move. What I see from her current contents (Mt. Fuji, ten-hour karaoke stream, photography) is that she has a lot of energy. If I were the manager of hers, I would push the momentum she now has due to the publicity this is getting and also because of her excess energy she could utilize for a radical change. Of course before that there would be necessary mental health first aids that will be a long exhaustive list of checkboxes since her situation is complex. What she seemingly needs is to creatively vent so she could unmask and let out feelings as much as approved and to have creative outlets not stymied by management.

idk im just rambling... i doubt that Hololive managers are that involved to their talents, akin to a producer with an artistic vision

>>106102361
Hololive managers are more akin to slaves or personal assistant, so they're not really that hands-on with their talent's direction.

I could have prevented this if I was Chammers' slave

Listened to the entire stream, there was a part she complained about men being into young girls being disgusting, but how young and in what context, but my Japanese isn't good enough for this. I mean she seemed to complain a lot about her suffering being entertainment for others, the age part was shorter and I'm left wondering what she actually said.

>>106102633
Good thing I'm around her age. I have a chance.

>>106094738
Once women stop being children, being a woman around women is a social battle royale. Men have innate camaraderie so it's easier to make friends, but harder to get a romantic relationship.

Someone fed the stream transcript through chatgpt:
https://chatgpt.com/share/6902528f-23dc-8006-ad88-f19820b118e1

>>106101517
No, I work in a big corpo, investors just want return on investment. Most of the things they push to a company to do are based on making profit.

>>106102687
wdym there is a transcript

>>106102633
>>106102653
Didn't she just say in the Matsuri stream that she prefers older men?

>>106094738
As probable as Nijika finding Bocchi

>>106102687
>1. “The world is scary” — constant fear for her safety and even her life
>One of the strongest threads is that she says she feels hunted. Not metaphorically — literally hunted. She talks about people outside her hotel talking about killing her, feeling like she’s being stalked or targeted by “hitmen,” and having to stay awake until morning out of fear something will happen to her while she sleeps.
>She describes hearing people outside:
>“From outside the hotel… I heard, ‘kill that one.’”
>When chat tries to brush it off as delusion, she answers with anger:
>“Oh, ‘delusion’? Fine, call it delusion. ‘It’s just delusion~.’ Gross.”
>And she asks a very blunt question:
>“Who can be ‘fine’ when someone’s after their life?”
>This isn’t only paranoia-talk. She’s describing how fear has rewired her day-to-day behavior. She admits she’s streaming through the night because she is literally scared to go to sleep:
>“Do you know why I’ve been streaming until morning lately? Because I’m scared of the night. I’m scared I’ll be gone before morning.”
>That’s not performance. That’s hypervigilance.
>She also says she’s constantly moving, getting lost, bouncing on trains, hiding, ducking into strange places, getting yelled at by strangers, seeing ambulances and thinking “am I next, are they going to take me again?” — basically living in fight-or-flight.
....so she has paranoid schizophrenia. okay then.

>>106102872
> this anon believes AI slop

>>106102872
what the hell did Haachama learn about the deep underground military bases in Australia?

>>106102933
Better than the retarded faggots and antis here. Yes

>>106102872
So either she's literally a schizo
Or some zhang or delusional fan is stalking her. given it's Japan its entirely possible

>>106102361
>i doubt that Hololive managers are that involved to their talents, akin to a producer with an artistic vision
It's a slippery slope. The instances where we've heard of where managers have "suggested" content directions it has always been negative in result, how Gen5's first manager was a total shit and how more recently Nene's manager was coercing her into homocollabs and troed to get her into endless FPS slop because "it would improve her numbers". And recently, in the wake of all the graduations that interview with yagoo he mentioned that they're stamping out the fact that managers have been in cases overbearing and attempting to force their own vision onto the talents.
But undoubtedly Chama needs special care in order to help her focus her creative energy.

>>106102872
If that transcript is correct, yeah these are classic symptoms of Schizophrenia.

I just want to hug Haachama...

One thing people have to remember is that Gen 1 isn't really a "gen"
The whole "Debut as a team" thing started with Gen 3, marine/peko gen.

Before that everybody was essentially solo and weren't really forced to collab or be friends.
A lack of gen solidarity probably contributes to her loneliness and misery.
Gen 1 has the following:
Mel - nuked from orbit
Fubuki - in the Gamers gen more than anything
Matsuri - insane
Aki - irrelevant (no offense). And the age gap between her and chama is big.
Chama doesn't really have anybody to bond with in her gen.

>>106103001
>But undoubtedly Chama needs special care in order to help her focus her creative energy
She would benefit immensely from a good manager, imagine if she'd had someone in her corner during the Coexist arc who could have convinced Holo to trust her vision.

>>106101744
Id like to think this but after what happened to Mel, I don’t think Cover will consider their past fuckups and give anyone an IOU for a future fuckup. Though it probably didn’t help that Mel’s moment of weakness happened off-stream so that there wasn’t a similar rallying around her like we are seeing now with Haachama

>>106103056
She has the most unique circumstances in Hololive: What you said, lived in the fucking Philippines, lived in goddamn Australia alone, first English-fluent talent, recruited as a minor, etc. etc.

>>106103056
The tradgey of gen1 and 2.
>Aki - irrelevant
Not quite, but she's basically doing quite well now for herself doing her own thing which is almost always means that she, except in a few collabs with Choco, hangs out with non-holo chuuba. It sometimes feels like she's not in Holo at all, but always gets involved if asked and is in all the big events. So yes it guess "irrelevant" would suffice for this context though it's not a nunanced take. She is one of those on periphery, like Chama, but she can handle herself and has found a comfortable spot sitting further away from the bonfire. Chama is on the edge of the darkness but yearns to be closer to the warmth and light. Regardless of whether she wants it she certainly needs it right now.

this silence only means one thing and it's not good...

>>106102872
Is it schizophrenia when stalking is a real occupational hazard for all Vtubers?

and when they thought her health was beyond help >> see Ao-Kun

>>106103291
Kill yourself btw

>>106103149
>imagine if she'd had someone in her corner during the Coexist arc who could have convinced Holo to trust her vision.
My entire perception of cover is a long list of "if only's". Thinking of EN imagine if troonmega hadn't boxed them in and actually allowed them to freely interact with JP, allowed Chama on the EN MC server and fostered those connections rather than hinder them in every way, had actually gone with the momentum and snatched all that talent when it was available by releasing new gens when they were needed most. But no, some cunters "had a vision". Good fucking riddance.
If only.

>>106103216
Not to mention back in the day she was constantly catching flak by management, Youtube, Zhangs, for her creative ideas.
>Banned from the EN minecraft server
because she was JP and they kept the servers separated. It was well known she was told to stop going to the other server to the point where Ina (maybe ame) built a small red heart where haachama last logged off that day.
PROOFS: https://www.youtube.com/live/tJOyOUuhfkE?si=3-csWdQhBKh3te2L&t=1430

>Told to cut it out with the schizo shit
The Haachama vs Akai Haato arc was her literal popularity peak. And she kept complaining about how Youtube demonetized her AND cover was telling her she was getting to wild.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eayds7sASE

>Taiwan incident
Lost Coco, the one girl who was undoubtedly her best friend in Hololive. Chama even cried on the year anniversary, and had a small schizo moment that day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgkbyUQxXsg

This + her family + her being lost in what to do with her life + maybe a little bit of literal mental illness makes chama the holo who suffers the most.

>>106103246
I know some hate it but I’ve been impressed by Aki’s pivot these past 2 years. She was circling the drain so badly for over 5 years (anyone remember the lead up to that big 200k karaoke stream?), she was for so long in the exact same place worrying about numbers like Haachama has been of late. The typical Hololive path wasn’t working for her so she struck out and tried something different…and it actually worked for her. I won’t begrudge her choices, not after all the years of her suffering as dead last.

>>106101517
hello phasefaggot/nijisister? Why don't you kill yourself?

>>106103277
The keyword is that she "feels" being stalked.

Is there a text transcript of her stream somewhere?

I'm relieved that discussions are being held in this thread. It makes me sort the feelings I have for this logically. How is the fan server holding up? I haven't opened Discord for months.

>>106102687
At least GPT mentioned her family. All the other zhang summaries hyper focus on anything that could be company-related.

>>106103456
They're circulating on shitter, but they ignore the context of her replying to antis in chat by reading their malicious, leading questions out loud and so the "transcripts" attribute to her what are the sentiments of antis because ZOMG that's what she said REEEEEEEEE

>>106103418
That doesn't make you a schizo when the threat is real. If a spy wrongly feels he is being tracked you don't say he's gone insane, he's just jumpy and overly vigilant. Everything holo employees do is about hiding their location and identity, she travels a lot on her own while sharing details so it's obviously going to weigh on the mind.

If she was saying this shit as a McDonald's worker who nobody gave a shit about, you could say that yeah its delusional and schizophrenic

>>106095864
Believe it or not, we exist

>>106103583
Trying various searches "haachama text" "haachama transcript" etc but not finding anything

>>106103629
Based Listener-san. I sometimes wonder what other Haatons watch when Chammers isn't streaming.

>>106103515
>How was the Discord server?
Not sure about the Haaton one but the general Holo one was a like a bunch of concerned older siblings watching a trainwreck and begging for some intervention or for Haachama to stop but also being sympathetic and supportive. There is definitely a lot of sympathy there but also a lot of ‘we need to keep this from spreading further, do we delete the messages? Do we turn on slow mode? Do we lock the sub-channel?’
One can look at it as them trying to protect Haachama but it could just as much be them wanting to protect Cover

i wonder if someone has a Tier 2 membership to kson that could probably watch her mengen if she will mention haachama there.

>>106103844
I listen to a lot of music. Wish she could hear this one honestly. She'd probably relate.
>I can't hear the messages, they just don't let me
>I can't bear the solitary, don't forget me
>I can't read the messages, they come so slowly
>I don't know a single thing, and I'm so lonely
>I don't get the messages, they don't come to me
>Everything that I can say is spoken for me, yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvYL8u4p-aM

>>106103844
I've tried following other chuubas before, and I'll still pop into a stream every now and then, but no one has managed to keep my interest like Chammers has.

Straight out the fuckin dungeons of rap, where fake chamas don't make it back

>>106103969
The only ones I found with the similar magic are Ljot Swanhild, Tsukino Mito, and 長瀬有花. Like the special weirdness you can't define but is genuine.

>>106103844
I just woke up with too many threads open
sorry
but, yeah. I'm watching my dog playing shovelware, I guess

>>106104148
Haatons are too fucking real. Love <3
https://x.com/HAACHAMAsub/status/1981106894514376798

>>106102094
>Because immediately banishing a girl crying for help is such a good look for them, right?
Counterpoint: Haachama talk about stopping taking her schizo pills, so that makes look her as unreliable and even self destructive. That could seen as above the responsibility of Cover towards her.

>>106104368
By suits and bean counters, not by the viewers.

>I'm probably on the brink of losing my job because I had a mental breakdown at work[/spoilers]
>Chammers is too
WE ARE

>>106104167
noraneko is so much more schizophrenic than haachama but her coworkers make alot of effort to include her. mito and deron seem to look after her the way concerned family members do. Haachama may have been happier in nijisanji.

>>106104467
>Haachama may have been happier in nijisanji
Kill yourself, Nijinigger. You're not slick

>>106104575
>autistic EOP screeching
zzzz

>>106104644
Slit your wrists.

>>106102094
>Shit, anon, people with mental problems need to have others who can stir them in the right direction. Letting them be with their demons is just enabling their unhealthy behavior.
that really depends. You seem to assume that the magic of friendship would fix everything. You have no idea how much it takes to stay around a person with severe mental disorders and how often they just don't cooperate.

The stream is still up or back up? Isn't that weird?

>>106103001
>how more recently Nene's manager was coercing her into homocollabs and troed to get her into endless FPS slop
>more recently
Catalog-nigger, update your rrats. That happened almost 2 years ago and then Nene got a better manager to the point she just a few weeks ago she got sad that the company changer her manager again.

>Decided to tune in to mikochi to take my mind off things
>She suddenly starts crying and ends the stream before it even really started
Uhh what the fuck? I'm scared now, bros...

>>106104989
Yeah I'm really worried now
Though it might have been the schizos that have been hounding her, though not sure why, Haachama didn't say anything about her

>>106104989
there are antis that were putting the blame on her on Haachama's meltdown, and it must have probably gotten on her.

>>106105036
>Haachama didn't say anything about her
Don't have to, we live in the misinformation era, i've already seen people saying the dating couple is MiComet or AoMari, thankfully Marine doesn't stream often but we'll see if there's a patern in chat.

>>106102687
>>106103555
>>106102782
>>106102872
>>106103020
N2 anon here, the CGPT summary reads mostly accurate, if you don't want Sloppa at least all the Quotes it takes from the script file (whereever that comes from) I can confirm actually were said in the stream, although the translation seems a bit shaky here and there. It takes the part about not getting paid for the next half year and flags it as an ongoing thing, which is not true. All the other stuff is clean though.

>>106103418
>>106103601
she dropped one very damning quote as well, "can someone abduct me already?", which is not at all healthy but kinda understandable if you think of her as a child feeling abused.
This also fits like a glove if you consider her recent trip-going and photo-posting, those shown on the deleted stream were trivially easy to spot as roppongi when she showed the chinese restaurant.

>>106104762
>You have no idea how much it takes to stay around a person with severe mental disorders and how often they just don't cooperate.
Fucking this. I had a coworker once who was on meds, or was supposed to be on meds but didn't take them very consistently because he thought they made him into a zombie.
I think I preferred the calm zombie mode over the manic stressed out freak who kept messaging me in the middle of the night about the walls mocking him for being a lazy shit. Sometimes I'd manage to calm him down a bit, but then he'd burn himself out trying to repay me, prove himself, catch up with work and life, etc. and the cycle would begin again.

>>106104751
good post

>>106104751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEbxC5S2Rwo

>>106103056
>Aki - irrelevant
Where do you secondaries even come from?
She is top3 collaber with streamers outside of holo.
Nigger saw some posts ages ago about her struggler for subs and completely missed her popping off arc.

>>106105279
This is concerning because its another manifestation of standing on the edge of buildings trying to feel something. The hopelessness reaches a point where they flirt with the fantasy of fan finding them and hoping they are a saviour instead of the deranged predator they are actually going to be.

The fact that she's telling all this shit to the internet instead of anyone close to her is already a failure of every well adjusted adult in her vicinity.

>>106104459
Haaton-tachi, faiton

has ur menhera oshi neck herself yet?
can she hurry it up?

I hope the above anon dies a violent death.

>>106106202
can u tell ur menhera oshi to livestream when she neck herself?
i wanna fap to it

>>106105864
gotta admit I'm simply here to disprove mistranslations and my personal impression of chammers in that stream was that she was kicked out of 109 friendships, i.e. not entirely free of blame herself.

How are people so fucking naive/retarded? Why would Cover ever terminate Chama in this situation? Even as the most profit-hungry cutthroat CEO you just wish her all the best and put her on a health related hiatus. 99% chance she's not coming back from it, problem solved. Either she doesn't get help because she hates the mental ward so much and is unfit to return, or she does get better and realizes what a fuck-you-burn-all-bridges that stream was. Doesn't matter that she didn't name anyone personally, people would know if she meant them, no matter if it was justified or not. She also killed all the remaining kayfabe there btw, saying her persona is entirely made up, she hates being a circus monkey doing 'crazy things' and none of her viewers really know or understand her. That just got overshadowed by the other shit. Like imagine going blackout drunk at work and telling your boss, co-workers and clients everything you think about them, with some delusions for a spice. Would you come back there even if you don't get fired somehow?

>>106106339
It's all a nothingburger and fake translations, anon. She was just telling funny stories for 8 hours.

>>106103277
Is it schizo to say your mom has fed you poisoned apples?
I mean, I think so, yeah.

>>106106339
she's a business risk
Cover is an entertainment company, and while ultras like you and this thread basically give the girls a golden ticket for any spergout, any higher up who sees the VOD as well as any manager and even the other talents will always have "mentally unstable" lingering in their mind. You NEVER know when she will break. It'll give retarded headlines because journos are not people. The shareholders might be unhappy. She could even sperg out about the chinese (she did mention "the china thing" once last stream).
It's not as easy as this being between YAGOO and her personally, that wouldn't be trouble, but if even one other talent says "I don't feel comfortable having a mentally insane person in this event" it'll be something they have to talk about, costing time, resources and consideration every single goddamn time when she's supposed to be the funny clown for us working people.

reminder >>106106262 and >>106106175 is trying to start shit on Miko's thread.

>>106106339
Because half of what she said was her reading a lot of mean comments from the chat and reacting to them. The other half was her experience with her family.

>>106107027
Yeah, I noticed that too. Real shithead he is.

>>106107022
You didn't even read. She's not coming back, no matter what they do. Almost guaranteed. Terminating her is just a pointless brand risk.

>>106107045
Sure it was, cope harder

>>106107191
Kill yourself

>>106106339
agreed they can't outright terminate her, but yeah I also think she's more or less done now, she'll never stream again as Akai Haato. Long hiatus into "graduation" like Ao or they force/skinwalk her into an immediate "mutual" graduation with a prerecorded goodbye that is approved by their hire ups. I lean towards the first one though, they probably know she's going to absolutely torch them once she leaves, so unless they can get her to sign a non disparagement agreement they'll just keep her in a box.

>>106106339
Where'd she even get the impression that she needs to act crazy? Part of what made the Haachama persona so endearing in the first place is that she wasn't trying to come off that way. She just did things she wanted to do, and the "crazy" accusations naturally followed. She did start to lean into the "craziness" after it was established, but I always thought she did so tastefully. I thought she took it in stride, and knew that the real driver of her popularity was underneath the act. COEXIST and the other arcs are the only times where she let her characters take center stage, and even that was born from her own desire to make a story. She was building on the lore that fans' established, but no one asked or expected her to do it the way that she did. That was all her. I've never thought that she needs to act in a particular way.
I know her lack of meds was making her more cynical, but if there's even a shred of doubt in her mind about what her pigs like about her then I want it gone.

boy I wonder why she feels left out

Catalogniggers are subhuman.

>>106107427
They only do that because she is mixed race

>>106107460
Suisei is half Flip but that doesn't seem to slow her down. (For legal reasons, this is a joke.)

>>106106276
Japanese people are so hypersensitive and autistic that getting ghosted by them could mean you're obnoxious or have simply graduated from being an npc and they dont know how to handle you.

>>106107191
she explicitly stated that
a) she actually likes management (not yagoo due to rumors)
b) she wants to be an idol
but is frustrated with all her efforts being fruitless or outright cancelled.
If the one japanese post on 2ch is to be believed, one of her grand plans she pitched was doing an exhibit of her photos at fucking tokyo dome - yeah right.
>>106107427
there is a communications discord server where they recruit for events well before they happen, she knows the goddamn company for 7 years now, she should be aware. This is 100% on her.
If she hated everyone in the company so far, she had 8 fucking gens to try new people.

As someone who only watches her occasionally and thought she was doing well, this came as a shock. The visit to that occult shop and the trip stuff have been very interesting, where the cracks starting to show even there or was it all on these last few streams?

>>106107547
I can confirm this is true because having been "the gaijin" for a year, it's all on you to act. they can't handle non-normals.
That said, are you confident you could handle it when your boss comes in and introduces John Heart, your new co-worker, and opens with "btw he's mentally unstable, please be considerate!" without further detail?
You'd probably also avoid being forward in order to avoid running into landmines, ESPECIALLY if your job is customer-facing.

>>106107648
you can probably brush off her previous hiatuses as health-related, but i think what really set her off this time was the rejection of the photo exhibit. that's where she started to really rant about Cover not doing anything for her.

>>106107648
Brother the cracks have been showing since Cover made her stop doing the dual personality streams that were raking in over 50k viewers per stream.

>>106107427
So after being mocked on /jp/ you come here to keep stirring shit.

>>106107581
Wait, she doesn’t like Yagoo? That’s a first I have heard from any Hololive member, current and former

>>106107581
She explicitly stated a lot of contradictory stuff there. Actual mental illness would do that to people unfortunately.

>>106107871
not like anyone can afford to shit talk their boss publicly like that

>>106107648
Her not wanting to be a vtuber is definitely part of why she feels constrained.

>>106107871
This is a example of telephone game in action. She said that there were rumours of Yagoo helping Shion by giving more sponsor jobs because she was a highschool dropout. Then it morfed by retards in the catalog of her hating Cover and calling preferential treatments to hating Yagoo directly.

>>106107665
maybe, but if they were an interesting artist who I knew about because of the shit they make that understanding would supersede the warning. Its pretty easy to guage if a person seems mentally unwell and annoying when there's hundreds of hours of them talking on the internet.

>>106107871
well, she did a series of minecraft streams where she made a TNT cannon to bomb the yagoo pixel arts she built on the holoserver. that's damning evidence that she hates yagoo!

>>106107871
that was in the stream, and it was retarded and totally on haachama.
basically they had a talk, and the topic came to the graduation wave
Yagoo noted that most of the recently graduated have begun solo careers - nothing more.
She took it as a subtle hint to "please graduate and go the fuck solo" apparently.
I bet Yagoo just tried to chat about it casually and insider-like brought up some info fans would refuse to say because of keyfabe.

>>106107460

I mean Susy is too, but she still got invited.

>Hitler could've been prevented if they had just let him into art school.
>This could have been prevented if they had just let her have her photography exhibition.
Much to think about.

>>106107306
>hire ups
hehe
>106107427
kys

>>106108184
Mein Chama will win.

>>106108184
>exhibition
no problem
>in fucking tokyo dome
...

>>106108039
That is also wrong, it was
>谷郷さんと話したときに言われました。「卒業生は孤立してた人たちが辞めた」と。
>そして震えました。あー、自分もそうだって。
>なにそれ? 孤立させてるのどっちだよ。頑張らせるだけ頑張らせて、孤立させて終わらせたの?
孤立 is not about solo careers, it's about being isolated/friendless. Whether he actually said that is another question.

>>106108274
urgh, it's one of those huh
I was assuming 個立 "standalone" until I just learned that word doesn't even exist

>>106108274
that said,it sounds very unbelievable that Yagoo would just rub it in like that, and with all the other incoherent shit in that stream I am still pressing "doubt" on that one.

>>106108412
Yep, that's why I mentioned that. Sounds like a weird topic to discuss.

just checking in
has she killed herself yet?

>>106108341
That's 独立

>>106108341
lol
>>106108648
masaka...

>>106108604
No, but I will kill you in her place.

>>106102782
Youtube auto-transcribes now.
It's.. moderately good.
Depends on both the language and accent really.
You can find it in the description, opens a sidebar that updates as you watch the video.
I've not actually checked to see if this is a thing in livestreams or not, nope it does not. Surprising, they already have a live translation thing.
In saying that, with language a lot of context crosses sentence barriers in casual speech making live translation on a per-sentence basis utterly SHIT.

>>106107349
Others knew her after she became popular as Haachama, the new influx of audience weren't familiar with Akai Haato. Of course they would seek out Haachama and find Haato boring.

>>106108769
>new influx of audience weren't familiar with Akai Haato
her name is literally Akai Haato, retardo

>>106108706
can u kill urself along with ur menhera oshi if u r a real fan?

>>106108184
A photography exhibition on VRChat would be more feasible and enjoyable. I'm surprised management outright rejected her exhibition idea when they could have softly recommended other possible venues. Or Haachama was being stubborn about Tokyo Dome.

>>106108740
I was using the transcript and managed to crack a smile when during one of the times she started speaking English it mistook it for Tagalog, so it's still wonky

>>106108924
Management don't think.
They could have easily pitched the idea more as a general Hololive thing if any other members wanted to submit some photos for it too.
That would also be a bigger grabber of attention for people wanting to actually go to it, making it not only financially feasible, but be appreciated by more people, everyone wins.
As a lover of her photography stuff given I do some of it myself, it's real unfortunate.

>>106108963
She's speegin it...

>>106108807
have you eaten your pagpag? You sad excuse of a human being?

>>106109076
lol imaging thinking photo exhibit in tokyo dome is financially feasible or other mems would drag themselves down to her delusions
especially for a 2 view like ur menhera oshi
u pigs as delusional as ur oshi omegakek

>>106109103
Stop giving it replies.

>>106109148
>imaging
man cant even imagine

>>106109383
i clearly cant compete with delusional menhera and her fanbase in delusions

Why does Haachama suddenly have so many antis?

AWAY!

>>106109528
chama showed weakness that's why antis appear like flies on a pagpag

>>106109528
Catalogniggers smell blood in the water, and they only exist for drama.

>>106109528
Because she dared say something against Cover, duh. Even if it was cleary quite misguided

>>106109570
>>106109577

Not sure if its phasefags, nijisisters or zhangs. If they're hololive fans then its very sad. Never holo vs holo.

>>106109584
>its okay if Suzie/Twappi does it!!!

>>106109615
Why would phasefags, nijisisters anti her for shitting on hololive. It is what counts for hololive fans in this shithole unfortunately.

Honestly, the fact that they falseflag so fucking hard thinking people don't notice what they're doing is baffling. It's so fucking blatant.

>>106109728
most of the sane fans already left this board. it's just monkeys throwing shit at each other.

>>106109772
Well, JP generals actually are mostly unaffected by the hack, the ones that stayed, that is. They never get shitposters (unless something like this happens). So this is not really true. If anything, the slower board lets JP generals thrive.

Gonna transcribe the EN lyrics from 糸 (Thread) as I suppose nobody else has. Maybe it cheers you up. Miss you Chama.

>Why we encounter each other
>We truly know nothing at all.
>When do we always meant to be with
>We are always unaware.
>Where had you been?
>Were you still alive?
>Two Stories Under a Distant Sky
>The warp thread is You
>The thread beside Me
>The fabric women will someday wrap someone
>May be able to warm.
>Why we go on living
>The trail of days spent lost in the fine split
>Running after my dreams
>A splinter from the day I fell
>What on earth can such a thread be used for?
>In the wind that trembled with uneasy heart
>The warp thread is You
>The thread beside Me
>The woven cloth one day may
>shield someone's wounds.
>The warp thread is You
>The thread beside Me
>To encounter the thread destined to be met
>People call it happiness

Vocal by Akaihaato
Climbing by Haachama
Movie by Taranchama
Inst by Trifrontier

https://x.com/akaihaato/status/1982771097994182973

>>106110185
Thank you anon

>>106072532 (OP)
>>106110386
>>106110386
>>106110386
NEW BREAD!

>>106110185
schizo ramblings lmao

>>106110185
ANON BIG LOVE

IT'S OVER

last, for I love Chammers the most

>>106108648
I threw that and 個人勢 together
truly, N2, not N1.

Extra last, because my lust for Chama knows no bounds

>>106111664
>>106111905
I posted this

All pigs are me and I am all pigs