Thread 106144785

IT'S not OVER
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I can't wait to see the Phase and Niji chuds try to rainman a message about how this is actually bad.
Common Cover W.

>>106144785 (OP)
>its just a break to take her meds
holo drama is so boring

How the fuck is this legal? Do they not know of the Streisand effect?

>>106144785 (OP)
Totally not a stealth suspension and she just happens to be unable to tweet or talk about her break right?

I'd like to order some fries to go with that nothingburger

>>106144785 (OP)
What if Haachama kills herself?

Imagine

I'll spread rumors if so please, Cover Corp.
I'm not going to because I like Haato and think she's cool, but sometimes you've just gotta shitpost.

>>106144785 (OP)
>taking legal action against malicious spreading of misinformation
uh oh, bvtmbros

>>106144823
You genuinely a disgusting subhuman. Don't give e a fuck about haato and just care about worshiping the company like a sack of shit. Pathetic.

>>106144866
of course it's a stealth suspension retard
allowing her to tweet and stream while clearly not in the right mental state is just asking for trouble

>>106144785 (OP)
And just like that the yagod shuts up all the BVTM discord troons and nijiniggers using Haato to shit on other holomem.

>>106144785 (OP)
So Idk what that’s about. A few months ago, she said she was taking a break to change the direction of her streams or whatever, and now suddenly she’s went mental??

>>106144866
What about that is stealthy? Can you actually read?

>>106144883
Misinformation here means re-uploading the vod.

>>106144866
hololive doesnt let anyone stream from the hospital, which is where she is at after baiting suicide.

>>106144823
>Put a rebellious member into Japan's asylum
Might as well kill her knowing how Asians treat their mental health patients.
Didn't she say how she was treated when she was "hospitalized" last time?

Haachama needs help, but I don't know if she can get it, nor if she can use it.

>>106144866
It's entirely appropriate for an employee whose mental health has deteriorated to the point where they go off their meds and can't stop themselves from saying inappropriate things publicly to be put on mental health leave until their condition improves.

>>106144785 (OP)
And 3 months later she will be graduating, just like Ao
>>106144853
ha, good luck with that, Cover

>steal suspension
>steal suspension
>steal suspension

>>106144866
>Just let her stream off her meds bro

>>106144866
The fact that they didn't terminate her on the spot was lenient enough. What she did would've cost her her job in most companies

>Miko suspiciously missing in among us collab
>COVER gives out decision regarding Hachaama while among us collab is going on
REALLY makes you think.

>>106144958
Mel really got the short end of the stick huh

>>106144958
Anon she's not coming back. This is just ao 2.0.

>>106144785 (OP)
Thank you Yagoo-san!

>>106144785 (OP)
not a black company btw kek

>>106144785 (OP)
>upon consultation with her family
i thought her family were a bunch of douchebags?

>>106144853
>How the fuck is this legal
cover owns the rights to all hololive streams, how is it not legal?

>>106144785 (OP)
>literal nothingburger

>>106145004
Douchebags with power of attorney

>>106144894
>clearly not in the right mental state
Ah, muh mental state! fucking convenient excuse to shut someone off. y’all sound like abusers

>>106144853
Japan does not have fair use laws.
Japan ALSO has "Its defamation even if its true" laws
So it's actually very legal for Cover to sue the fuck out of antis (in japan only though)

>>106145004
But it's not like Cover can get her admitted to a mental facility on their own.

>>106144785 (OP)
It's entirely reasonable to relieve Haachama from Hololive due to her mental illness rendering her unable to continue her activity as a Hololive talent. Even more so if she's harming other talent for whatever reason. COVER isn't obligated to solve Haachama's family problem. Also, COVER can't use the power of law forever when Haachama got all of her hiatuses and is still behaving like this.

>>106144785 (OP)
and then will patient wait three months for it to die down and announce her graduation without stream like Ao

Nijisisters in shambles they keep picking the corn out of Yagoo's shit

>>106145008
There is something called fair use.

>>106145004
Yes but they are her emergency contacts.
Cover the company can't force her to take her meds.

>>106144887
Ah, throwing a tantrum because you can't shitpost about her. Where did I say I don't care about her? My membership to her is older than you probably are, shove off SEAmonkey, learn to read subtext.

>>106145047
So Cover told her parents to lock her away?

>>106144958
Mel... Rushia...

>>106144785 (OP)
The Ao pipeline

>>106144935
At that point, just steal the whole car.

>>106144785 (OP)
THERE IS NO WAR IN BA SING SE
>Repeat after me
THERE IS NO WAR IN BA SING SE

PROBLEM SOLVED
NOTHINGBURGER OVER
ENJOY STREAMS

>>106145095
>"please help, my family sucks, the company doesn't care about me and I have no friends"
>company talks to her family to send her to a mental institute
That's fucking rough.

>>106144785 (OP)
That kinda boring
*yawn*

Cover will wait until her contract runs out and will not renew it.

>>106145052
genuine question can’t reuploaders just region block Japan or dailymotion it or something

>>106144785 (OP)
So, will she finally get paid?

>>106145163
based

>>106145004
So Cover bribed her douchebag family to force her into mental asylum so they can graduate her later?

>>106145080
You are retarded

Thats how you deal with this kind if drama
Fix it and dont feed the dramaturds

>>106144853
>How the fuck is this legal?
Because they own the legal copyright on said stream.
>>106145004
What do you expect them to do? Drag her to a mental hospital? They're her employers not her mom.

Is everyone on this board 12? Do you guys think employers can just get involved in employees their family and health issues. Even if they wanted it would be illegal.
Have you guys ever lived in the real world?

>>106145185
yes in order to try and get away with it.
But as long as you live in japan, are a japanese citizen, or basically can be served japanese legal papers a japanese anti is at risk of lawsuit.
(Also keep in mind the Japanese are also aware of being too trigger happy with legal stuff, except nintendo apparently. So they'll only go after the worst offenders like that korone schizo that threatened to bomb something)

>>106145185
I assume its on the chink youtube already

>>106145185
youtube and most western sites are going to do what cover says. cover can DMCA any video they want and if the uploader wants to dispute it they need to give up their own info to cover, which cover could use to sue you.

>>106144853
SEAbros trying to look smart

It's so fucked how the Japanese let corporations get away with "warning" people and threatening legal action just for showing interest.

>>106145163
BASED

>>106144982
This.
The manager tweeting for her gives me PTSD

>>106145281
Does SEA have fair use laws?

>>106145293
>Showing interest
>Taking a 7 hour stream of a mental crisis and boiling it down to a couple bullet points calling cover a black company and all the girls in it acting like niji girls
That's not showing interest.

>>106145004
There's only so much a company can do for their employee. At end of the day family will still have ruling.

>>106144883
I will buy every bit of merch they produce until the day I die if they send the Yaguza after bvtm

>>106145004
>according to the schizo who was screaming demons at everything

ITT
>Trolls: Cover should do something
>Cover: We're taking legal action against trolls who're using Haato to attack other holomem
>Trolls: NO NOT LIKE THAT

>>106145316
>post all 7 hours
>get a copyright strike
>post clips
>get a copyright strike
You're defending this shit on fucking 4chan of all places.

>>106145357
KEK I hope they can sue nijiniggers and phasenegros in this board

>>106144982
Even *IF* she isn't coming back, at least she will still be a graduated member instead of outright terminated

>>106145316
shh bootlicker speculation isn't going to kick your dog

>>106145355
I mean her family sent her to australia AND filipines, that's plenty evil already

>DON'T SPREAD RUMORS
>by the way she's fucked in the head and off her meds

>>106145186
anti should've told her cover doesn't pay her so why she want a sololive ?
are you truly believe all the stuff she said during mental breakdown ?
then ask cover save her from her shitty family then

This board is reddit incarnate. If you think you should get sued for wrongthink then maybe you should go back.

>>106145080
>0 reading comprehension
Actually retarded anon, lmao

>>106144823
how is this anything *except* bad? Cover desperately trying to spin and damage control their crumbling reputation? If anyone else did this it would be LE HECKIN BLACK EVIL

What if I told you guys I'm brown and trans?

>>106145448
Difference between wrong think, hating somebody, and going out of your way to make up shit with the explicit purpose of hurting talent popularity, and therefore cover's pockets.

>>106145448
Dramatubers and parrotfag ruins this place
the holo-only site is way cleaner than this place

>>106145467
corpo slurpers like to slurp

>>106144785 (OP)
She's never coming back

>>106145402
>filipines
yes
>australia
stop falling for retarded memes

>>106145467
This post reeks of fish

>>106144969
>>106144785 (OP)
Yesterday on her mengen Miko said she's still fighting with the management because she doesn't want anyone to graduate and wanted to lawyer up because of schizos. So yeah this is probably the result of that. Miko saved Haachama

>>106145448
No, but you should get sued for slander

>>106144894
>>106144866
>official announcement
>stealthy
?

>>106144785 (OP)
Damn thats some 1984 shit, pretty fucked they just muzzled her and called her insane, then asked not to spread misinformation lol...

>>106144785 (OP)
Don't let BVTM know this, let him slander, and report him to Cover
We might make him broke

>>106144975
I assume Mel leaked something genuinely confidential (specific and with hard details) instead of vague statements like " Shion got more promotions" and "some girls are too buddy-buddy".

>>106145467
yeah, holodrone defense force is out big time trying to cope with haachama's impeding demise

>>106144785 (OP)
>rainbow fucks lose again
I kneel Yagod

>>106144933
>>106144982
>>106145306
>>106145075
>>106145111
Why act like Ao's case was anything like this? Are you some kind of EOP who doesn't know what happened?

>>106145509
>being this gullible
lol

>>106145474
bvtm?

>>106144823
Fpbp

>>106144975
it was not the first time she leaked things.

>>106145509
If Miko is such a nice person, Pekora is a bitch for sure

>>106145578
>>106145578
nta, but im an EOP. what happened with Ao?

>>106145510
>slander
>on the internet
>anonymously
This shit is dystopic and the fact that you retarded faggots are fine with corporations regulating online comments is pretty telling.

tl;dr Nijisanji won.

>>106145617
They dont mean /vt/ idiots anon, hell i doubt they even care what we say here

>>106145509
>Making shit up
Good try, falseflagger

>>106145662
>>106145581
literally watch the mengen, Miko even cried again when she said she doesn't want anyone to graduate

>>106145608
She had no interest in being part of Regloss so she tried using a mental health diagnosis to get out of the group activities. Cover put her on a forced break and wouldn't let her come back without agreeing to go back to Regloss activities.

>>106145647
>They dont mean /vt/ idiots anon
I know, I'm talking about twitter and 2chan. Suing internet users for gossip was retarded 20 years ago, it's retarded now, and will become even more retarded in the future.

>>106145467
>Everyone, anti or not, expected her to be fired
>Not only she wasn't fired but she also gets the mental health help she should
>Even if she doesn't come back she will still get to be an alumni instead of terminated member
Seems way better than expected to me

>>106144785 (OP)
........thats not Towa baby

>>106145617
dont tremble so hard anon, im sure they cant get you in your island

>>106145095
>Chammers about to become vtuver equivalent of Britney Spears

lol do japs really think you can just give meds to schizophrenics and they will get better?

>>106145483
>holotower is better because people disagree with my cultism less
sounds perfect for you

>>106145716
This
Cover has reassured people that in the WORST case scenario she rides off into the sunset with good standing within the company.

>>106145617
And this is why most of the retarded online vtuber fanbase don't take us anons /here/ seriously, because some like you are genuinely retarded.

>>106145710
and to think they had that whole video where they traveled together on that mountain retreat and sat around a fire and heartfully shared their dreams and happiness to be together. it's almost like that was all fake...

>>106145719
>if you care about internet free speech then you're SEA
It'll be pretty cathartic when Amazon sues the living shit out of you for complaining that your package is taking too long.

>>106145766
Anon they shoved her into her shitty parents basement. I don't think she's gonna be positive about cover if she leaves.

>>106144785 (OP)
>with her family
The same fanily that bullies her and made her go schizo?

>>106145755
Not better. But sane-ish as long as you take your meds.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8490677/
Monthly injections of this brain med makes 50% of patients less schizo.

>>106145443
>are you truly believe all the stuff she said during mental breakdown ?
They were literally in the Japanese news for their contractor payment fraud, and Kson believed in Vishojo because she had already experienced similar delays in Cover.

>then ask cover save her from her shitty family then
Let them first do at least what they are obligated to do.

>>106144785 (OP)
Yeah, she's gone. I've seen Cover do this shit too many times, she's already terminated but they're waiting until people forget about the yab. Feel bad for Haato, poor girl really got a bad hand in life and then got put in a position no 16 year old should be, hope she gets a normal happy life.

>>106145716
Remembering that he failed to save Ao-kun, Yagoo went Super Saiyan Saviorfag in order to save Haachama from being terminated

>>106145357
Hope Doxxxsagi gets sued

has nuking someone's brain with meds ever worked?

>>106145716
Man there is a corporate bootlicker and then there is being this motherfucker
>every bad outcome is good actually
LMAO

>>106144823
Ironically is she was in Phase she probably get a personal psychiatrist and all the weird shit she wants to do would be more than welcomed.

>>106145448
america and the whole world would be a much better place if grifters like hasan and asmongold would get sued for spewing their retarded opinions.

>>106145811
basically, yes

>>106145357
>Trolls: Cover should do something
i'm sure this was much smarter in your head.

>>106144785 (OP)
Too bad the damage is already done and my oshi is getting harassed by deranged nip antis. Fuck off.

>>106145357
kek

>>106145759
Its has less stupid and repetitive post
unlike /here/ whos SEAtards are only posting to get (You)s

cover could've have this blown over fairly safely if they hadn't put out this notice, but with this I saw some individuals tightening their bite and they won't let go.

>>106145871
false flag LOL

>>106145828
>and Kson believed in Vishojo because she had already experienced similar delays in Cover.
Still trying to peddle this when Kson never said that, huh?

I don't think that Cover should have hired underage girls, had them dress up in slutty outfits, and then had them read weird comments from perverts every day during their formative years.

>>106145755
she was better when she was taking her meds.

>>106145910
this would have been handled so much better if they just said they're supporting her. threatening people showing concern with legal action just makes it all seem very fake and defensive. now even the support she'd get seems lacking by association.

>>106145847
When the expectation was being terminated, yes, almost every outcomes in which she wasn't terminated on the spot are good outcome.
You know what a worse outcome could be? Not only she gets terminated but they also sue her ass to hell for slanders (which they not only could but would likely win)

Dont worry, if they do lock Haachama up then she'll break her out and get her to spill the beans on this shitty black corpo

>>106145766
Really the best thing you can ask for in life is to "have good standing within the company"
Things like asking the parents she hates for very good reasons to put her in a mental hospital like the one that tortured her for months last time, is not really important

>>106145797
That was recorded some months before their anniversary which was only a few months after she had attached herself to Marine.

>>106145766
They literally handed her over to her abusers, how is that a happy ending?

>>106145828
fraud what
that article is about holding payment because revision
you wanna artist do shit job and getting paid for it without any responsibility ?
I thought this board super pro AI and hating artist for their ego
and then if that true why she still want a sololive then ?

>>106145978
>come join vshojo, there are no cons!

>>106145997
Why do you think vigilante corporations abducting people is somehow the right solution?

>>106145578
>Ao totally just used mental health as an excuse and it's not at all like Japan has a history of ignoring mental health problems
>Hololive is flawless company sir!

>>106146013
I mean, there are no cons if there's no company...

>>106145979
Haachama needs someone who actually cares for her... But, sadly, I don't think she has someone like that in her life.

>>106145979
>>106145997
What do you expect cover to do with her family though? Buy her a house in Canada and treat her like she needs witness protection?

>>106144883
>Phasefag gulags are about to be a reality

>>106145968
I feel like termination without litigation (like they did with Mel) would have been infinitely better than this one, handing her over to her abusuve family and telling them to deal with her

>>106146039
Spoken like an EOP retard who has no idea what happened.

Any actual Haachama fan around?, like a real one with a membership of at the very least 1 year+?, what are your thoughts on the matter?, I ask because even though I've been around since gamers debut I've never followed Haachama, yet I'm aware she has been always a synonym of mental problems and she doesn't interact at all with the holomems I follow.

All this looks like a massive nothingburger to me but I could be wrong, that's why I ask.

>>106145710
I'm sure you have proof of this and you're not just spreading shit you made up to make Ao look bad

>>106146013
there's a time to be a gloating tribalfag and it's not when your company just sent a talent alleging bullying to a mental hospital

>>106145979
>Really the best thing you can ask for in life is to "have good standing within the company"
Well, leaving previous job in amicable term is a lot different from being terminated for going menhera, yes, especially if she wants to look for a proper job after this (assume the worst case scenario).
It's not the best thing in life, but it's one of the best outcome she could realistically get.
>Things like asking the parents she hates for very good reasons to put her in a mental hospital like the one that tortured her for months last time
She is a mental health patient. This outburst happened because, as she literally admitted it herself, she skipped out on meds. She need professional help.
Most mental patients don't want to be hospitalized either, but it's for their own good lest you want them to destroy their own lives.

>>106146062
0 interest loan so she can move out to somewhere away from her family would be a good start

>>106146090
>it's totally different trust me bro!

Looking forward to Haato's return when she feels better, fuck the monkeys ITT who say retarded subhuman shit like "She should kill herself".

>>106145716
I realize people who love this drama never even knew about Hololive back then but so far this continues to follow the exact same pattern as Rushia who did ultimately get terminated.

>>106146106
She skipped several Regloss collabs and dance lessons at the beginning of the year. She even ignored Raden's invitation to all talents for the holo haniwa project and then pretended to be upset that she was "left out".
If she's such good friends with Regloss and wanted to continue with them, why is it that Marine is the only person in holo that has her contact information?

>>106144785 (OP)
Ao 2, RIP.

>>106146087
They are her next of kin and emergency contact. Legally, if Cover wants to get her help with mental health issues, they can't skip them - and hell, Cover surely wants that just to make sure she won't be attempting a hero (which would blow this whole thing up way worse) anytime soon, if nothing else.
At least she still has some tiny chance to come back this way. It's not like they didn't get her a mental health breaks several times before (although she might need to be actually hospitalized now)

>>106146061
>After getting hit by a truck, I reincarnated as a JK in Japan and will save my Oshi!
Airs this fall 2025

>>106146123
>talent alleging bullying
oh imagine if someone docks to your island over your retardation

>>106146174
She doesn't have the balls, that's why she feels fine using it as pitybait.

>>106144853
Haachama herself said on stream that she was off meds

>Cover releases news of Haahama's soft suspension
>Migo immediately announces pic-related
I'm starting to think

>>106146213
lol eop

>>106146221
Based schizo Chammers, going against satanic big pharma

>>106145357
holofaggots really think the same company that can't even handle basic immigration procedures for their own talent can magically "take down" antis, this company is run by retards for retards (you)

>>106145048
She literally said she was off her meds during that stream

>>106145968
>she should be glad we are not making a example out of her for daring to speak against us
Hey at this point might as well bring back monarchy and divine right of kings we already pretend it exists lol

>>106146123
sending a mentally ill person who's refusing to take her meds and unable to function normally to a mental hospital seems like the correct decision though

>>106144975
It involved a sponsor. I'm 100% sure Cover would've tried to sweep it under the rug otherwise

>>106146178
>exact same pattern
They are notably different, though>
Rushia was put on a break for investigation - her case was never closed before they found out she was contacting Korekore and she got terminated as the result.
Haachama is put on an indefinite health break. They didn't say anything about any further investigation (since there isn't any need for one). Her case is closed for now
If anything, you should compare this to Ao-kun's case because they are much more similar than Rushia's (although Ao didn't have such an outburst).

>>106144785 (OP)
PUT ME IN THE VIDEO SCHIZO PARROT

>>106145080
Not in Japan

boooriiiing, they should've told her to post "visiting a family" on her xitter, then a month later released a termination notice that listed all of her sin like /our/ beloved company

>>106146095
>Any actual Haachama fan around?
KEK she's the least popular JP atm
Of course there aren't any people around who actually watched her recently. EOPs only remembered she exists because of the drama.

Let's just hope that Haachama was truly having an all-out paranoic moment and her family members are not that bad. At the end of the day, she is in their clutches if she can't make decisions on her own.

>>106146127
They just publically called her insane and needing for mental health help. There is no future where this isnt just career death sentece in Japan...

So what actual mental illness/issues does she have, and what are her chances of permanently getting better? Or is she just fucked for life?

Interesting that they didn't say anything about protecting Haachama from speculations. Only other talents.

>>106146296
>she said hololive isn't a big happy family? she's insane. lock her up.

>>106144823
>niji chuds

>>106145871
You oshi a fat fag lmao

>>106146296
There's not a single mental institution that helps its patients. They are just containment facilities where schizos are either left to their own devices or are pumped with all kinds of medicine until their brain short circuits and they at least become docile. But the latter is rare nowadays because it's inhumane or some shit

>>106146371
if you actually watched the stream it was pretty obvious that she was acting like a schizo. she literally admitted that she stopped taking her meds.

>>106146095
You'd have way better luck looking at her split than any catalog thread, anon

>>106146355
That won't go into record on her roommate, though. Being terminated would

>>106146343
Too bad, Migo made sure to not let that happen

>>106146369
Retard

>>106146190
to me, it just feels like you extrapolated from those things to make it fit your narrative
>why is it that Marine is the only person in holo that has her contact information?
I have no idea about this, might be true even, but somehow they still were in contact if we believe the stories Raden told about Ao being there when she felt like graduating in the beginning
and also regloss scrambled after to get the cover out for her after they got info of her graduation
in your eyes it's cut and dried but like everyone else you're just making assumptions because no one has the full info on what was going on

>>106144785 (OP)
I swear to god if haato ends up like etika, what I do to covercorp is gonna make kyoani look like a fucking joke.

>>106146369
> that, in addition to statements made by Akai Haato being taken out of context and inappropriately circulated online as rumors
retard

>>106146410
>if you actually watched the stream it was pretty obvious that she was acting

>>106146362
>So what actual mental illness/issues does she have, and what are her chances of permanently getting better?

>Paranoic episodes
>Heavy anxiety
>Schizotypal disorder

Honestly, I'm pretty sure she's not that bad. She managed to function in this company pretty decently for 7 years and never really seemed to do anything out of pure narcissism / malice. So she definitely knows how to live with the problems she has, although she has some flare-ups at times.

tl:dr I don't think Haachama needs to "get better", she just needs support from a good professional. Sadly these are basically non-existent in Japan.

>t. psychology dropout who lives in Japan

Bets on which is getting terminated first, Clara or Haachama

>>106144785 (OP)
>taken out of context
So her saying she wants to die is take out of context? Japanese suits should neck themselves. Japanese beuracracy is a fucking cancer on modern society. I hope she leaves that shithole of a black company.

haachama is one of the OGs. they will always get a second chance unless they want to outright quit. yagoo will always have a soft spot for the people that were there from the beginning.

>>106146404
this anon knows what's up. they're torture facilities for the inconvenient.

>>106146519
Mel...

>>106146483
Saying that people were screaming outside her hotel about killing someone doesn't sound very sane unless she was visiting Gaza or something

>>106145052
>japan only

About that. Wactor was able to sue outside Japan because they knew the actual countries the persons were from and take them to international court.
It’s only a matter of time before Twitter as part of anti bot policy forces country of origin on accounts so anyone can easily identified what country they are from. . Remember Niji forced the latest person to settle after they were able to petition Twitter to turn over identifying info in order for court papers to be served to the guy in Japan. Cover now has an office in the u.s. with access to Harmony Gold tier copyright troll lawyers. If they know you are in the u.s. and identify you, they will just force you to waste money to lawyer up even if the case has no grounds and is eventually thrown out on u.s. fair use basis..

>>106146208
So that's just it then? As long as they are her legal guardians and she is deemed mentally unfit, the family gets to decide with her having no say or means of appeal?
No wonder people say Japan is shit tier with regards to mental health

>>106144785 (OP)
>Haachama: "They're going to say I'm crazy to ignore what I'm saying. I'm saying things that are really happening"

>Yagoo: "Anyways, don't listen to her. She's crazy. We're taking down every archive of the stream too btw. "

BLACK COMPANY

>>106146531
You just proved him right
Mel admit that shes the one who decided to quit
She was supposed to just be suspended by she cant forgive herself that she quit

>>106146539
sounds pretty crazy if you are unaware that chinamen literally tried to track down and murder chama and kson a few years ago

>>106146487
get the HELL back to uni and go save her

>>106146576
When you're singling out literally every single person / entity in your life, no exception, there are good chances it's your own view that's warped.

>>106146531
Was given the option to stay while they sweep it under the rug, and chose to leave.

>>106146576
Haachama: ''they're to say i'm crazy but >>106146576 really likes to push pineapples up his ass''

BLACKED ANON

>>106144823
>She's crazy
>We're suspending her and firing her afterwards
>We will also be removing evidence
>Enjoy the streams!

Then the Holodrones clapped

>>106144823
Disgusting subhuman bootlicker

She won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE4AulFxS-U

>>106146468
>it just feels like you extrapolated from those things to make it fit your narrative
Says the guy saying Cover always wanted to get rid of Ao for having a mental illness.
>I have no idea about this
Then stop talking.
>somehow they still were in contact if we believe the stories Raden told about Ao being there when she felt like graduating in the beginning
Literally what the fuck are you trying to say with this shit? Yes they were all on their hololive accounts you fucking retard. After Ao quit nobody other than Marine can contact her. Are you so retarded that you somehow missed the entire point being about her private contact information?
>and also regloss scrambled after to get the cover out for her after they got info of her graduation
Ok? That has nothing to do with how Ao feels about them.
>no one has the full info on what was going on
You have zero info while I have all of the information that's available.

>>106146404
meds do work for some people and it's not like there are many other options. she was suicidal in the stream, so are you saying we should we let her roam free until she kills herself?

>>106144853
>"don't listen to he guys, she's crazy"
Keep invalidating her feelings cover

>>106146446
Dude...please dont tell me you actually think they are doing this to a person called "Akai Haato" do you? This will absolutely go on her record if she ever wants to go to a another company, best she can do is go indie and hope people dont know, which we know from current ex-holos is mission impossible.

>>106146348
Guess so.

>>106146418
Yeah, thought about it for a bit but they probably are under so much shit right now, I decided to not give them more of it.

>>106146631
fuck that thighs

>>106146628
>>106146627
>YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO FIRE HER!!!!!! WHY ARE YOU NOT FIRING HER AND ADVOCATING FOR HER MENTAL HEALTH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Sweet phaseseeth

>>106146349
That's what worries me, the Hololive bits she spoke of, she didn't talk with conviction and admitted repeatedly that she could be the one at fault due to her own shortcomings.
The family stuff though, she spoke about with conviction and alot of pain. Even if one assumes only half of it were true its still paints a pretty damning picture and I don't like the idea of them being in charge of her present situation

>>106146615
I don't think her parents, her bosses and some coworkers are every person she's ever known

>a warning
I'm so scared

>>106146627
They publicly said the content of the video was taken out of context and they're not holding it against her.
IF she later decides to graduate it will be with full honors and no political fallout affecting future RM work.
>They're coldly terminating her because they're evil
Kill yourself

>>106144853
>t-t-the streissand effect???
fucking everyone knows about what happened retard, this is about stopping harassment since all those clips are a breeding ground for retarded antis to feed each other bullshit.

>>106146693
Sadly thats just how things work, nothing your workplace can do about it

>>106146697
And everyone she ever met at school
And at uni

>>106146678
They are going to fire her, holodrone.

I really hope she gets better

If I was Cover, this seems like a good opportunity to cut come dead weight. In public markets, there's no room for empty altruism.

That's really the best Cover can do. Take her off air until she gets her head right, and tell people to shut the fuck up because they're making things worse.
Leave it to /vt/ to take it as a suggestion to make things worse as much as they can, and to interpret everything in the worst possible way. Bunch of drama whores hoping to see blood at the accident scene.

Can we resurrect the Bakatare Bully Gang rrat after this event?

>>106145716
Honestly, i don't think Cover will fire someone ever again. Mel was the last person fired, but since then they've had multiple people take long breaks that ended in graduation. Cover is smart about optics and knows it looks bad to publicly fire someone.

>>106146693
>The family stuff though, she spoke about with conviction and alot of pain.

Yeah, it did sounds pretty convincing. But at the end of the day, if an individual can't make decisions on their own, it all comes down to their family. So we can only hope her relatives aren't that bad... or that she eventually will find the willpower to take the reins of her own life.

>>106146645
>she was suicidal in the stream
I was in the chat, no she wasn't. I don't think she's even off the rails. She became convinced she needed to rock the boat because Hololive has become a creature she doesn't recognize anymore. And honestly, neither do I.

>>106146499
>Bets on which is getting terminated first, Clara or Haachama
Phase will time it with cover as a smokescreen just to pretend they’re not a right-company

>>106146645
I'm saying all mental facilities are shit, nothing more and nothing less. You are not going to help her by putting her into one, you only help make your own consciousness clear. "At least she won't suicide" yeah man, if that's your greatest concern - sure

>>106146755
No way, if someone does something really bad they'll definitely terminate them. This was nowhere close to what I imagine Mel did. It probably was something illegal, like enabling insider trading. But obviously I'm only speculating.

>>106144823
Just like Ao. Blocked from communicating, no more revenue and kick her out whwn she gets diagnosed again

>>106146750
>he thinks she is gonna be back
Ill screencap this to repost on her graduation announcement, see you then anon.

>>106146794
she said she wants to die and thought euthanasia sounded good, how is that not suicidal?

i dont follow phase, did clara do something?

>>106146596
Few years ago, not right now (or more accurately, few days ago). Even back then they never actually managed to do anything IRL either
If she still has PTSD from that time then yes, she definitely need professional help

>>106146693
Just like Risu, if your family is a bunch of shitheads who are putting you down then it's up to you to stand up for youself and get out of that toxic enviroment, no one else can do that for you.

>>106146794
>I was in the chat, no she wasn't.
I'm sure you were EOP. She never explicitly said "I want to kill myself", but she said some pretty spooky "read between the lines" things.

>I just want to disappear
>Someone should take me away

etc.

>>106146753
rape

>>106146717
>retarded antis to feed each other bullshit.
I wish i had the screenshot of that nijinigger telling another nijinigger to not use his nijinigger fan account to post the transcript for haachama's stream..... which of course was full of lies....

Putting the Cover back in cover-up.

This is out of context for real for real!

https://files.catbox.moe/dol4nu.webm

たとえ辞めたいとしても、制作物があるから、って言われたりとか、そうやって未来の予定があるからって引き延ばしていく。なんかそれが変だなぁってずっと思ってました
Even if I wanted to quit, they'd say things like, "But we have projects you are tied to," or "We have future plans lined up," and keep dragging it out. I always thought that was pretty weird.

Of course they won't let the piggy bank leave, Yagoo gotta buy more stocks.

>>106146946
Someone tell cover about the Streisand effect.

>>106144785 (OP)
Thank you, Grok.

>>106146966
>haachama
>piggy bank

>>106146349
She may actually be a real schizo and all her problems are caused by herself, maybe her parents are insufferable fucks or maybe they are at their limit for dealing with a mentally ill daughter. Maybe the other holos are cunts and isolated her or maybe she isolated herself despite the other holomems attempts to approach her and they just gave up, we only know her side of the story.

Coming from a household with a mentally unstable mother i have seen first hand how these people are the embodiment of self fulfilling prophecies, at some point you have to come to terms with the fact that they are using the hand you extended to drag you down instead of pulling themselves out of the hole they dug.
Pic unrelated.

>>106146858
Her RM quoted an insta msg saying something to the effect of "I won't mourn that career bigot Charlie Kirk, ripbozo." This to Phasechuds was synonymous to calls for political violence.

>>106145448
Hololive has the biggest reddit presence by far. Why are you surprised that most of us also use reddit?

>>106146991
>legal action against defamation
>calls her mentally unstable

>>106146988
see >>106146717

>>106146988
Anyone who didn't already know about it likely won't care.

>>106146487
I hear u need a psychiatrist license to practice psychotherapy in Japan. I am a practioner and i was looking into doing that there

>>106146887
>she said some pretty spooky "read between the lines" things
Yeah fine. Doesn't mean she has no grip on reality, and objectively, look at how Cover has managed her career. She's invested 7 years of her life, and this is from when she was a literal minor. What does she have to show for it?

>>106146966
>"But we have projects you are tied to," or "We have future plans lined up,"
So? It's not like this somehow stops her from quitting.

>>106146991
>Fans have shown widespread support, praising the agency's supportive response over past disciplinary approaches
Nips know it best

>>106146966
>Even if I wanted to quit, I was told that I had work to do, and so I kept putting it off because I had plans for the future. I always thought that was strange.

So basicaly haachama was the one who stopped haachama from leaving because she had plans for the future....

>>106146966
>if I
>they would
lol anon, she also said she didnt want to graduate on that same stream

Bros I think they're going to lobotomize here

>>106146966
haachama is one of the least popular and profitable holos. several holos have left in the middle of projects and while having future plans. sakamata, shion both left in the middle of holowitches.
you need to come up with another angle, pagpag.

>>106147005
>they are using the hand you extended to drag you down instead of pulling themselves out of the hole they dug
Wow, anon discovers that mentally ill people aren't actually capable of pulling themselves out of anything and had to be dragged up often kicking and screaming. That's the definition of being mentally ill, all the "God help those who help themselves" bullshit doesn't work here

>>106146794
Anon she said she wanted to die AT LEAST 4 times, the most egregious ones were jumping from a tower and euthanasia.

>>106147021
Haachama spent 4 hours explaining why she's insane in the head, this isn't defamation. Nobody in a sane mental state cries, fake cries, ugly cries, gets over it, says a sarcastic comment, ugly cries and then laughs, all in the span of 5 minutes, while throwing suicidal comments every now and then.

>>106144853
>>106146988
If the Streisand effect is real, why don't I have a copy of the stream?

>>106147035
>What does she have to show for it?
Million dollars in bank, or if she is careless with money, hundreds thousands. Should be enough for her to retire early or at least take it easy for a few decades
Most people at her age, outside of elites of the elites, still have to work their ass off

>>106146702
What is out of context about her saying she hasn't been paid in half a year? Is all that just her being crazy too?

>>106146678
Don't speak to me, cattle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu3Xj37zdzE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu3Xj37zdzE

>>106144785 (OP)
>indicates that the talent is to step away from all activities for the time being
>priority is on the talent and their health
>when asked about the matter, fellow talents are respectfully asking their viewers to leave this mess to the upper management to sort out and are otherwise trying to keep their personal involvement to a minimum
>the message was written and sent by a manager and not by Haachama herself, and is explicitly stated so at the end of the message

Hololive JP demonstrating how the Selen Shock of December 2023 could have prevented just by doing the right thing at the right time

>>106147102
Anon, if her family is as shit as we're hearing then most likely her parents blew all of her money already on ''education'' and totally necessary luxuries

>>106147056
I'm sure she just wants her situation to be better. When you're trapped, rocking the boat is one of the only ways to do it. The problem is it comes with consequences. It's a lot easier to slip out the back door like Gura did. Chama is more impulsive and less strategic, or maybe felt some kind of moral obligation to speak up. I think that's why she put herself in this position.

>>106146678
Notice how they didn't say anything about what they're going to do with her

>>106147135
GRADUATION IMMINENT???

>>106147070
NDFs are that retarded huh

>>106147102
This comment reads like somebody who doesn't watch streams at all. Did you somehow forget that cover doesn't help with projects at all? That the talents pay from their pockets or they have to borrow from the company like a loan shark?

>>106147123
you're such an EOP catalog retard that you genuinely think those like 2 minutes of transcript out of a 4+ hour stream were all that people were spreading and taking out of context.

>>106147123
Like many other members, she took a "loan" from Cover for her personal projects (the latest being a photo exhibition). They deduct it from her future payments. That's a well known scheme and preferred choice of Holo members over paying for those projects themselves since it saves them money from paying taxes (people said that they can declare business expenses for tax deduction but to date, no Holo has done so yet even those who did pay for their projects on their own)

>>106147132
Don't reply to me in that tone.....that skin tone

>>106146878
there were college exchange students in japan who said they were willing to attack them with a knife and they had a forum thread attempting to track them down (and luckily failing). i read it. she definitely has ptsd and it's entirely due to cover corp's insane mishandling of the taiwan situation.

>>106147198
Not only is that debt scheme but she also said nothing about that and flat out said she got no money from them in 6 months

>>106147168
They... just did anon, it's in the first sentence..... do you need some duolingo?

>>106147198
sounds borderline tax evasion

>>106147184
>Did you somehow forget that cover doesn't help with projects at all
This is obviously untrue when they just greenlit her photo exhibition project - which they knew they would be operating at a loss and tried to convince her not to (she refused so they ended up giving her the okay and the fundings)
>That the talents pay from their pockets or they have to borrow from the company like a loan shark?
Yeah, getting an interest free loan that save you from taxes is suchhhh a horrible thing
(I haven't even bothered mentioning being the 3rd parties and contacting involved parties for her unless you think she truly did everything by herself)

>>106147168
>赤井はあとですが、体調を考慮し、ご家族と協議のうえ活動をしばらくお休みする運びとなりました。
https://x.com/akaihaato/status/1984244912142102688

I heard there were seething Holoanti brownoids in this thread so I came to laugh at (you)

>>106147056
she did, but also she was clearly doing defiant things in the stream trying to get a reaction out of management by removing gloves and talking about hololive rumors. she didn't really do much that was termination worthy but it definitely felt like a child trying to desperately get the attention of her parents by breaking things.

>>106147243
>debt scheme
Debt scheme that is profitable for and liked by members.

Nijifags really going into overdrive huh. Chama has had to be in the hospital before, this is just a cycle at this point. Its common for people with bipolar to have cycles where theyre fine and then go into manic episodes. My stepfather is the same, every September his meds stop working or he stops taking them properly, leading to a breakdown and us having to take him to the hospital to fix up his meds and shit so he stops hallucinating his dead grandfather. She will be back, she will go through the same cycle again, and history will repeat. The best you can do is hope for a speedy recovery, hang in there Chama.
I'm also not surprised at all that nijifags are using mental disabilities to try and destroy their competition, they did that with multiple of their own talents at this point, including selen.

>>106147259
in spirit it basically is but it's more of a legal loophole. like american companies setting their hq in ireland or some shit like that.

>>106147274
sounds more like you came here to seethe

>>106147259
It is. Well, more like the more legal tax avoidance, though

>>106147259
better yet, it's legal tax evasion

>>106147279
Almost like she was spiraling.

>>106147169
Lmao no she's calling out the schizos. She's back after saving Haachama and she's going to save hololive now

>>106147260
Building the brand at your own expense and risk, while Cover profits from you pumping value into the IP they ultimately own, doesn't make sense for anyone. Look at this whole sad episode this way. It ultimately reveals how much control Haachama really has over her career, and it's a bad deal for her. She can't even talk to her fanbase honestly. Who in their right mind would stay in that kind of situation?

>>106147260
You people have become conditioned into clapping like seals for companies. It seems like this disease that started in America is spreading more and more. The company is not a real person..it does not need nor cares for your whiteknighting...It might make a difference for a person to get support from people...but you sucking its cock will not get you anything. Stop giving the rights of people to companies. Its the same as the retards becoming "friends" with AI

>>106147088
>anon discovers
I was basically born with this knowledge, but i kept despite the physical abuse she put me through because she's my mother, when i became too big to abuse it was my old man who had to bear my share on top of what he had on his plate. In the end she tried to vent her anger on my sister, that's when the dam broke and i learned what tard strenght i had been holding back the entire time, that was certainly a day.

>>106147150
Hololive and Nijisanji are both the same type of beast, but Hololive's PR team is orders of magnitude better.

To all the phasefags and pagpag eaters in this thread, fuck you. We won.

>>106147362
Nta, but you have been conditioned to instantly hate upon and distrust anyone or anything that isnt you. Paranoia isnt normal anon, please seek help such as therapy, or at least talk to your doctor about this. I know it will be difficult because you don't trust doctors either, but its important to try and find someone to help.

>>106147150
>Calls the talent batshit insane and gets her abusive family to speak for her
>Priority is on the public image and profits
>Fellow talents are refusing to acknowledge that they bullied Haachama and are ignoring it entirely
>A manager is putting words in Haachama's mouth
>They suspended her and are going to fire her when the heat dies down
Ftfy

>I support the girls not the black capitalist exploitative companies!
>Company does something in pro of the talent
>NO NO NO NO THEY SHOULD HAVE FIRED HER IN FACT THEY ARE FIRING HER JUST YOU WAIT

So much for supporting the girls

>wants to graduate but management won't let her
>management force her to take a break and get in touch with her abusive family
>management delete the stream and take down any reuploads where she mentions management won't let her graduate

>>106147299
You're seething it's a break and not the termination you desperately wanted after shitposting for 3 days straight
Holoanti SEAgroid and latinx favela dwellers BTFO

>>106147435
Don't lump me with the ragebaiters. I can enjoy members without cultishly following a company. Its a difference between not trusting a corporation and not trusting a person

>>106144923
because banning mental hospitals and letting the people who belong there terrorize the general population, like how it is here in the west, is so much better, right?
kill yourself

>>106144785 (OP)
>went to the Philippines
>came back a menhera
really makes you think...

>>106146178
except haachama is not a cat murderer

>>106144785 (OP)
Dumbass didn't learn anything from the Taiwan incident. She thinks she's above the rules and can say and do whatever she wants on stream. Now she's suspended with a chance of graduating.

>>106146855
>>106146887
Anons, I really was in the chat, and well as the karaoke stream the night before, and no that wasn't the general feeling. The first thing you should understand is this has been building for a while. She was getting deeply personal and intimate which isn't common, but given the stress she's feeling and the chance she might not ever get to speak as Haachama again, I understand why she opened up so much. The problem with being so open is that it invites her words being twisted against her by lying trash like you, and yes that's unfortunately unwise in most cases. It is what it is. I take solace in the fact that so many people love and admire Haachama, and whatever her difficulties are, she's a special person with a rare heart you don't see much in the world at all. Nothing will ever take that away from her. Not even Cover can do that.

This is what they want you to ignore:

"I haven't been paid for 6 months now"
"There were times I wanted to quit but I couldn't because they had projects I was involved with"
"you're just baiting people with solo concerts right?"
"some people get to do concerts many times, but because they make money, it's considered fair"
"Overnight, I couldn't sing foreign songs anymore. Even my popular cover songs from overseas got taken down because they were deemed dangerous, all my hard work is being trampled upon"
"They're going to say I'm crazy and ignore what I'm saying"
"why won't you let me graduate?"

>>106147313
Tax avoidance*
Tax evasion implies you HAD to pay those taxes but found an illegal workaround, Avoidance is when you find a fully legal workaround.

>>106147473
have sex

>>106147488
>chammers gets to eat jollibee while Holoanti nijipags are forever stuck eating recooked food waste(pagpag)
damn no wonder this thread is seething so hard

>>106147089
>not defamation to call her mentally unstable
Ok man let's see a judgement by a medical professional in the statement that she's mentally unstable. Otherwise Cover is just making claims that can't be proven.

>>106147465
Cover's a publicly traded Japanese company. Why are you acting surprised?

>>106147465
>>106147458
>>106147445
Definitely organic posts btw. Not a raid.

>>106147611
LMAO THIS

>>106147445
>>106147458

>>106147623
stop noticing.

>>106147600
t. seething nijibaba who got ran through by band kid losers 20 years ago

How delusional do you have to be to spin this as a good thing

>>106147458
>"I hate mental hospitals they tortured me there"
>Sends her to another mental hospital
Nice support

still seething about cover won't bring your dead corpo back, vhoecucks :)

>>106147705
>When they ask you where you wanna go, and they are gonna ask you where you wanna go, do yourself a favor. Keep your mouth shut.
-The Wire

>>106147564
Anon, post proof and timestamp, the vod is widely spread here... oh wait!! you can't!! because even this retard >>106146966 tried to put words into haachama's mouth and forgot that we also have access to translations so we can find out he's full of shit.

>>106147698
uh oh melty

>>106147135
was the slander towards her really that bad? did haachama insinuate anything towards migo specifically?

there's a good chance she doesn't come back from her hiatus

>>106147705
Just like how she hates her abusive parents and cover directly consulted with her family

>>106147791
>good chance
more like 100% certainty

>>106147673
participate in coitus

Awful, anyone trying to act like sending her abusive parents and to one of those torture chambers labeled a mental health asylum are fucking disgusting. People here are the worst, just people who oshi a company and have no humanity in them at all or give a fuck about the streamers themselves. I genuinely hope everyone on this board gets skinned alive, your all terrible people.

>>106147705
they didn't say she's back at the hospital

They are Aoing her and dorito drones are clapping lol

>>106147564
EOP nijifags like you are just taking talking points from antis without even watching the entire video.

neck yourself

>>106146741
>If I was Cover
You
Will
Never
Become
Successful
Nor
Valuable

Haachama is the Japanese Kanye

Sending Miko out for damage control, must be bad.

>>106147820
once you realize people here are tribal corpo drones, it all makes sense. stop expecting anything better.

>>106145008
That only matters within Japan and YouTube is an American company ultimately

>>106147619
>cuts arm off
>erm ok man but lets just wait for a professionals insight otherwise you cant just say hes an amputee

time to see what excuses Miko makes up for how she treated Chammers

>>106147820
So what's your solution? I'm curious because for one they're not her personal therapist, and for another all the people bitching about letting her take a break have not proposed a single alternative.

>>106147135
How the fuck does this fatass keep getting involved in all the bad things that happen in this company lmao

>>106147820
ok anon, in your infinite wisdom and right opinions, what should cover do with her family situation? hire hitmen?

SAY HER NAME

>>106147564
>"some people get to do concerts many times, but because they make money, it's considered fair"
is hololive supposed to a charity where the least popular girls get as many opportunities as people who are ten times more popular?

>>106144785 (OP)
>warning against the spreading of rumors
Suck my entire dick Jap cocksuckers, I can say whatever I want about your shit corpo in this country

>>106144975
Mel literally asked to get the boot by herself

>>106147730
Yeah dude because the alternative translation makes such a huge difference!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu3Xj37zdzE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu3Xj37zdzE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu3Xj37zdzE

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SISSTERS! MIGO IS MOCKING YOU RIGHT NOW!!!

every day I look forward to seeing haachama graduating

>>106147880
?
Chama fucking loves Miko, why would she have mistreated her?

>>106147930
>elira
:(
>elira, japan
:O

>>106147880
You mean Migo will explain why she always failed to Rape her?

>>106147768
chama picked up a chat comment about parties, and miko is one of the regular organizers of said parties, but other than that she didn't really shit on miko specifically. it's more that the antis started shitting on miko after that.

>>106147863
Exactly just like you, you are a very mentally unstable person anon, you need get admitted. Trust me its obvious to everyone here and outside you just dont know it yet.

>>106147907
he's probably the type who thinks sex cures all

>>106147946
Comparing Migo(Gold) to Elira(Unko)

>>106147817
you are so mad kek

>>106144883
lol they can't do shit about it

>>106147946
what's "elira" about this stream? she's not about to insult haachama like elira insulted selen.

>>106147996
take part in fornication

>>106146741
If they fire her for this I will anti them until the end of time

>>106147926
Great anon!! I can also use some random translator. But let's assume yours is 100% right... you surely have the timestamp and videos to prove your point right?

>>106147860
go clip or repost the vod and see what happens then

>>106145355
Haachama has called her parents shitty way before she stopped taking her meds.

>>106148023
>what's "elira" about this stream?
damage control

>>106148027
busted nijibaba whore just like enna and reimu kek

>>106148076
that's an incredibly retarded thing to say.

>>106145755
My sister has been diagnosed with melancholia and has been on medication for over 20 years. Despite continuous treatment, she experiences relapses approximately every 6 months and recovers about 1 month. If she stop her meds, she does not recover.

>>106148071
She did move to a foreign country where she didn't speak the language to get away from them in high school after all

So will they get Haachama to graduate after the hiatus or will she stay? They weren't really clear about that in the post.

>>106148219
If they were planning on graduating her then obviously doing a hiatus makes no sense. The answer is they don't know yet.

>pimp out mentally ill teenager for years
>when she speaks against the company lock her up and sue anyone complaining
The good guys

>>106148279
funny thing about EOPs chiming in is that they weren't there to see that in that like 6 hour streams she spent 5 and a half hours bitching about her shitty life and making weird noises and barely anything was about her time in hololive.

>>106148110
engage in copulation

>>106148393
every (you) I get adds another digit to your body count, niji whore
kek

Going public has made hololive an unironic black company.
Holy shit.
NEVER EVER go public.

>>106148058
that translation is incorrect btw, is is google translate? って is a quoting particle here, so she was told there plans for the future. and the とか means is one of many things she was told. And it's clear from the context she wasn't the one delaying but even
the most middle ground translation would be : "I was told among other things I had work to do, and since they told me they still had future projects, I kept postponing it"

Al this shit barely makes a difference in that they made excuses and didn't let her quit.

>>106144823
>try to rainman a message about how this is actually bad
>notice the tweet that does exactly that
>check the profile
>it's all phase
Like pottery

>>106148427
The worst thing Chammers said about hololive was
>they haven't paid me in 6 months
>Yagoo gave Shion extra sponsorships when he found out she's a high school dropout

Why is this thread not even mentioning that mikochi is talking about it on stream right now?

>>106148205
That didn't help her.
She was bullied both in the foster home and at school. With no friends, streaming from the basement became her only way to talk to anyone.

>>106148522
Because believing some paid employee is like believing Elira.

>>106148522
because it's a catalog thread at bump limit so almost everyone left

>>106148506
>completely forgetting her mentioning there are factions in Hololive

>>106148506
That's bad.
You also ignored a lot for some reason but the first point you listed is NOT good at all.

>>106148058
She thought it was strange that she had plans for the future?

Mikochi just said she is going to take action against false allegations and that she's grateful to Haachama and wanted to know if there's something she could do for her since she was struggling the most

>>106146634
>After Ao quit nobody other than Marine can contact her.
No, that was Mio talking out loud that if she wanted to contact Ao she could ask to Marine.
The other Regloss member explicitly say that since they were always hanging out and talking on Discord they never felt the necessity to have each other contacts. Kanade even said she barely uses Line to contact other members.

>>106148558
I never said it's good, but it's not black company tier.
>>106148556
>factions
You mean friend groups several of which she was a part of?
>Watame saying she couldn't reach Chama to do more things as Watachama
>Flare talking about how she wanted to revive KarASHi but Chama wouldn't respond
>Kanata wanted to revive Chama+taso+luna (forgot unit name), same thing
>"i was treated like poison in holoGTA" while Pekora and Towa were trying to include her during the tutorial days but she just did whatever on her own
>Matsuri inviting her to her birthday but Chama ghosted her, later Chama showed up at HSKW's birthday as if nothing happened
>"they all went to disneyland at one point and left me out", talking about something around 2019 where supposedly everyone went when in reality Sora, Shion, Aqua and Ayame also didn't go
She even acknowledged it isn't really their fault. She feels lonely but she has been inadvertedly pushing everyone away because she's not thinking straight.

>>106148382
>she didn't spend all or most of her time complaining about my corporate masters so what she did say must not have been important
oh sweetie, did you think this was the defense it sounded like in your head?

>>106148506
>employee not getting paid by the company, no biggie
Bruh....

>>106148650
She also said she wants her fans not to attack anyone

>>106146634
Nobody said that cover wanted to get rid of her from the beginning for mental illness
What was said was that Japan does not do mental illness well. There are numerous statistics that you can find that showcase how poorly Asian countries tend to do when it comes to treating people who are mentally ill.
On some of Ao's last streams there was talk about future projects and streams. Ao wasn't given an opportunity to even tweet goodbye in the end, it was done by managers

damn migo really just owned all the shitposting brownoids on this board huh

https://yutura.net/news/archives/144226/2

Don't translate what Haato said, Yagoo will sue you.

>>106147916
I'm looking forward to comfy Riona during the holidays.

>Miko: Trans women are indeed women
Well said, Miko. What a way to end the stream.

>>106148771
>>106148775
how did you read "this is the worst she said" as "this is good actually"? Are you guys retarded?

>>106148764
I think not being paid in 6 months is black company tier.
Imagine you worked a real job for a big company and they didn't pay you for 6 fucking months.

>>106148951
>>106148764
>not paying your fucking employees is not black company tier
Bruh....

>>106148425
Huh you have that power but can't increase your own body count above zero? lol

>>106148994
its probably because the girls don't have a fixed salary like normal employees; haachama probably did something retarded like go into major company debt to finance projects/videos/songs and has been paying it back (it means shes not very profitable).

Japanese copyright laws are borderline akin to CCP censorship. There's got to be a way to legally keep that vod up for people to watch

good thing i downloaded the vod :)

>>106148994
>>106149027
Everyone knows how taking a loan works, it's not ideal and obviously there are better alternatives but this is at worst a legal loophole. Saying this is BLACK COMPANY behaviour is retarded and makes you look 14.

>>106148076
I don't see a black screen covering the stream though?

>>106149106
this shit is not good and saying it is is cope, but it's incredibly funny how people genuinely think it's super uber scummy evil jap corpo tier malicious when it's basic finance. personally i think it stems from a significant portion of the vtuber community being exposed for the first time to real life things in many ways.

>>106149041
>still upset
>still trying the incel angle
this level of mentally ill desperation is why you've never had a lasting relationship kek

>>106149155
you have no idea what she's talking about in the stream do you?

>>106144785 (OP)
What happened?

>>106149106
ah yes an image i saw from /noomber/ few hours ago

i've noticed idol cultists are a lot more likely to defend the idol company and a lot less likely to defend the idol themselves, i wonder why that is

>>106149042
Anon I hope you realize how much copium you're inhaling.
I get it man, shit sucks.
I've been through being in a place that you thought was home that turns out to be a fucking awful place. It's pretty crushing.
>>106149106
Fucking idiot. When you are in debt you STILL get paid you just funnel the money to the debtors AFTER.
If you were to get into debt with someone that employs you, you work out a system of paying a % each month.
You don't fucking lose 100% of your earnings until the debt is paid off.
Like car financing you agree a % amount each month including interest. You don't pay ALL of your wages until the debt is paid. How the fuck do you think normal people survive living paycheck to paycheck if they're in debt?

>>106147916
At one time, yes. There was an equity in how many new costumes each member received up until last year when they were given the choice to pay from their own pockets to butt in line to get extra costumes.

>>106145230
>Have you guys ever lived in the real world?
do you know where you are? amigo, come on

>>106149229
This is EXACTLY what happened and STILL happens with JP niji fans to this very day.
We roasted the fucking shit out of nijiniggers for this behavior and damned if I won't stay consistent.
Support your Oshi not a fucking corporation or a soulless conglomerate.
>I would die for my Oshi! Unless she revealed bad things about the company then I will throw her under the bus and abandon her!
My blood is starting to heat up I think I should close this shithole for awhile.

>>106149232
She and Towa used the same fucking wording, you either believe they're both getting paid but simultaneously paying the employer a %, or that they're both not getting paid at all just like you believe Chama is.

>>106149229
The whole business model is to create cultists buying plastic junk it's sunk cost at this point

>>106149329
i respect you

>>106149329
>falling for shitposts made by discord melanoids
Yeah you should probably stop using this site then

>>106149329
And who is sending Haachama hate like nijiniggers were doing to Selen? Where is the black stream?

>>106149367
>everyone who disagrees with me is [Tribe: Other] and [Race: Other]
how's that working out for you, cultist

>>106149255
most holos do still get about the same amount of costumes.
the money and time that needs to be invested into IRL events is on a whole another level compared to shit like live2Ds though.

>>106149229
it's simple and i'm surprised none of you catalog retards get it yet: most people support their oshi, but when their oshis say they're happy with their workplace and then some retard stir shits up because someone had a negative experience with their workplace, people immediately start shitting on the idols who say they're okay by saying THEY'RE BEING HELD HOSTAGE or THEY'RE ACTUALLY SHADOW MANAGEMENT PULLING THE STRINGS, so literally any defense of their idols or their workspace can be easily misconstrued as "supporting the company over the talents". you will obviously get some retards like that kristheholosimp or whatever his name is, but most people only care about their oshi's experience.

>>106149414
Show me the Hololive fans that aren't larpers /here/ that are behaving like nijiniggers do on their actual accounts, where they engage with Holo talents as a fan.
I'll wait.

>>106149329
>>106149229
I have a functional brain. I shat on Cover multiple times when they deserved it, and I will defend them when they don't. It's that simple
Oh, and what >>106149435 anon said, too. My oshi is happy and growing, so that's more incentives for me to defend the place enabling that

>>106149560
>the bad thing is okay as long as it's not my oshi

>>106149075
Ironically billibilli lol

>>106149608
The dude is like embodiment of the 'first the came for' poem lol

>>106149560
it's amazing how these catalog retards think people who defend their oshi and "the company" have never ever said anything bad about cover. this narrative that "holodrones only defend the corpo and not the talents" began when fauna implied she didn't like it there and then people started harassing holos saying BLINK TWICE IF YOU NEED HELP WE'LL GET YOU OUT (probably due to the selen thing), with fans of the talents (who actually watch them) saying "wtf are you saying? she's good there".

obviously many did have clashes with management but that's as normal as you having a retarded middle manager in a company but still overall liking it there. before that, you can find a SHITTON of posts saying "i'm gonna fucking murder fauna/kronii/nerissa/bae/mumei/etc's manager man" not only here but on twitter, but suddenly when the graduations started to hit and the remaining holos had to defend themselves from the rumors, they and their fans are "company bootlickers". even now some brownoid is on his way rushing to call me one.

>>106149752
>began when fauna
LOOOOOOL

>>106149752
May I just call you profoundly retarded?

>>106149752
>catalog retards
everyone who disagrees with me is [Tribe: Other]
>think
so i will put words in their mouth
>this narrative
about their invented problem
>when fauna
that started well before i will tell you it did
>harassing holos
which started criticism and speculation i don't approve of

>>106149779
yes? that's when the widespread narrative of "holodrones say cover > holos" really took off. did you think i was saying that that had NEVER been said before? lol you fucking animal
>>106149824
not an argument.

So about the twitch deal. What sup with that?

>>106149967
it's already a dog abuse platform, maybe they're paying cover to move into the young adult abuse category

>>106149435
>>106149435
>>106149435
>>106149435
this

Hololive won

>>106144785 (OP)
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>106150426
What did it win?

>>106144853
It's LITERALLY
LIT.
ER.
AL.
LY.
fine when Hololive does it.
When Anycolor does it? I shit on them.
When Vshojo did it? I shit on them.
But when Hololive does it, it's totally fine.
Them's the rules, I don't make 'em.
Don't like it? Tough shit.

>>106144853
>We recognize that certain comments by Akai Haato on her livestream were made in a state of mental instability. Therefore, we have removed any streams containing such comments and are continuing to remove any related illegal copies of these videos.
Cover bootlickers and/or interns were already doing everything they could to defend Hololive by calling her crazy. Still is messed that management is now stating that in an official announcement. Haachama did make some blunt negative statements but it's noticeable how quickly Cover always hides behind the NDA.

>>106144866
>Totally not a stealth suspension and she just happens to be unable to tweet or talk about her break right?
Sure, like those other radio silent breaks when a Hololive talent suddenly goes offline for months. Ina told viewers she really didn't like revealing outfits and went on a 3 month health break. Laplus missed the first HoloX anniversary live and went on a mental health break for 3 months. Altare when he directly complained about management not even attempting to fix his 3D suit and couldn't stream on his channel for 3 months (he was the first guy in Holostars that had to delay his birthday by several months). Stealth suspensions have been around for years but management is likely furious. This negative rant looks horrible after Hololive recently had 8 graduations and many fans were already cynical. Also Haato did get close to breaking NDA on her actual Hololive channel which is beyond what Mel did which stayed a secret but still resulted in a quick termination.

>>106144958
>The fact that they didn't terminate her on the spot was lenient enough.
Anon don't be an idiot they can't afford to give out an immediate termination but there is a good chance they will give her the Ao treatment. Haato will be on a break for 3 to 6 months before they suddenly drop a graduation announcement. She gave out too much information and management has always been extremely strict with the NDA. Saying there is a hierarchy in Hololive that was excluding her while also saying that shipping pairs were being forced by management weren't huge complaints but it still makes the company look bad.

>>106148495
>>106144823
fucking always