All my life I've wanted to write, make stories, and draw comics, but the motivation to actually go through with it has never really been there for me. I've never completed a multichapter in my entire life and I've never been able to draw a single comic let alone draw much of anything for my whole life. I want to be an artist and do something, but I can't ever seem to make anything.

What should I do?

Kill yourself howie

https://archived.moe/wsr/thread/1528758/#1528758

>>1529914
Can I have advice?

>>1529914
How about some actual advice?

>>1529914
Anything else?

>>1529911 (OP)
just do it literally the only thing stopping you from being creative is yourself. Learn to draw, to make music whatever it is u wanna do just do it and dont think ab it much.

>>1529926
>whatever it is u wanna do just do it and dont think ab it much.
Kek, you don't know how this works, do you?

>>1529928
motherfucker, how does this work? you just learn it and do it, faggot.

>>1529929
I can't make myself is the problem and I keep giving up the moment it looks slightly difficult. This is what's happened with all my hobbies.

>>1529935
pointless thread then. I can't make you either.

>>1529936
So I should give up on everything?

Drawing freehand doesn't work.

>this guy again

>>1529911 (OP)
Have you considered short stories?

>>1529958
Yeah and I don't want to do that. I want to do long form.

>>1529959
you haven't dopamine fasted...

>>1529911 (OP)
kill yourself
this is actual advice

>>1529961
he can't do that???? he has adhd it's too many steps for him

I don't know what to do beyond this.

>>1529970
draw the eyes?? you have the head construction done, now draw the eyes, then nose or eyebrows and then the mouth?

>>1529971
Yeah but I don't know who or what to make this head into and I don't think it'll be the right shape for the chsracters I want to do anyway.

>>1529972
>>1529972
>I don't think it'll be the right shape for the chsracters [sic] I want to do anyway.
ok then start over?? or just try to complete is anyway to learn something? or erase a line and correct it? any of those

>>1529973
I don't know how to use this method to draw any other shape. How do I do that?

>>1529974
what shape??? post a ref?

>>1529974
wait nevermind you sick ABDL fuck I just remembered you're a degenerate freak I'm not helping you. Sorry I forgot I came here to torment you because I hate you. Die.

>>1529975
How's this?

Am I doing this correctly?

>>1530105
Quit bumping your shit thread Howie.

>>1529911 (OP)
I write fanfic and draw fight scenes, horribly, for stuff I read and watch. I get lots of inspiration and ideas when I am currently consuming content. I cant do it afterwards though, my memory isnt that good. when I am experiencing the content is when I am most hyped for it and most inspired. you can do the same. as time passed, my writing and drawing got much better. still havent shared any with others though. it sits snug on my computer.

>>1530121
Even when I feel inspired and energized I still can't make myself do anything.

>>1530123
Except shitpost, apparently.

>>1530135
Almost as if the phone gives me dopamine immediately and is inherently stimulating while delayed release dopamine is harder for people with ADHD.

>>1529917
>How about some actual advice?
A HUGE amount of useful and usable advice was given in past threads through the YEARS by this guy that keeps posting variations of this thread topic as a way to get a very short dopamine rush. But s/he never really seems to do anything. In past threads, I've posted requests to respond but there's nothing, as if the person is afraid to actually post a step by step usage of a tool I told him about. I had already mapped out a set of future responses for that tool which was basically an abbreviated short course on using the tool to make something.

So, this person basically will not use any software tool. DO OR DO NOT; THERE IS NO TRY. But this person will not even try, so there is no chance of even getting to the "do or do not" part. Daydreaming about doing things is what this person is stuck upon. So I've given up as there are other people to give attention to who at least do actually Try so there is some hope of reading the "Do or Do Not" part at least.

>>1530169
damn, maybe you should kill yourself then

I don't know what to do beyond this

>>1530188
>I don't know what to do beyond this
https://discover.hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn

>>1529911 (OP)
This song will teach you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C_HReR_McQ

>>1530331
Please sage when posting in a Howie thread, thanks.

>>1530188
have you tried dopamine fasting? you could probably grind it out if you just put down your phone and actually dopamine fasted. starting on the next step of this is so easy there's really no question how to do it (you just start drawing details and erasing construction lines) but you can't do it because you are addicted to your phone and refuse to put it down and actually try! so... time to dopamine fast! lock up your phone and electronics and stay in one place and only have out books and drawing supplies! No more phone to distract you. Unless, maybe, you don't actually want to try, you just want to give up and try to get people to baby you on the internet? That would be pretty sick and fucked up of you, considering you're an adult man it would make you a disgusting freak if all you did was spend your days pretending to be a retard to try to get people to baby you. In that case, I'd recommend suicide. But! Luckily you can just dopamine fast and then there's no problem!

Listen to chopped and screwed, Howie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6WxBqHzGX4

>>1530208
I've looked at this and it was too hard for me.

>>1530524
kill yourself then

Step1 : be rich
Step 2 : have a mild mental illness
that's buddy, good luck

>>1529935
Have you considered the fact that you’re just useless and only in love with the IDEA of being a creative? If you truly were a creative you would do, even if it’s only once in a month or fucking once in a year, but the urge would be ever present and you’d know WHAT you should so but at worst you’d struggle to actually do it
What speaks to you about being a creative, is it other people’s perception of you? Or is it an urge that comes from within? What does your creative voice say? What direction does it tell you to go?
Do you get creative ideas and do you at least write them down?
Just fucking start doing instead of asking people what to do, if your comic as the end result is a bucket, start throwing shit in the bucket. Even if it’s ideas and concepts on scraps of paper, even if it’s fucking two words or an ugly sketch of the panel layout
If you’re a creative stuff will pour out of you and it doesn’t matter whether it’s good or bad, that comes later
If nothing pours out of you, ever, just fucking give up and consoom idk&idc

>>1530575
Oh for fuck's sake. Yeah I've heard this a million times for every single hobby I've ever tried. I like the idea of doing anything besides sitting in my room, laying in bed, jerking off and going to sleep or looking at my phone and staring at a wall while barely being able to get out of bed. Am I seriously raising the bar too high? Is that what you're telling me?
Then am I not interested in anything at all? Because this is what it's like for everything that I've ever tried doing even for non creative hobbies or just anything in general.
I have literally tried doing several artistic hobbies and gave up each of them immediately when I was a teenager.
>Gave up on Source Filmmaker
>Gave up on GameMaker
>Gave up on FireAlpaca
>Gave up on Photoshop
>Gave up on writing
I didn't know how any of them worked or what to do. I don't even know basic trig. Even when I look art guides, I literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out. I don't want to be stuck with no creativity or being unable to express myself. This is what it's like for literally everything I try doing. I'm not able to try and keep up with any hobby. Even writing, I do it sporadically and very rarely. Stop giving me this reductionist bullshit.

I'm not here to get attention, I'm not here because I "secretly don't like drawing" I'm here because I want to fucking draw. Now are you going to give me advice or not?

>>1530575
Ive been writing as a hobby and role-playing for the past 12 years. It's not just simply a case of being in love with the idea and not actually wanting to do it. The last thing I wrote as a story was 2 years ago or so. The rest of the time I've been role-playing.

I want to make stories in a visual medium. All of the stories that I want to make would require a visual medium more than a literary one. It's impossible for me to actually write about any of the ideas I want to write about since they'd all fit something visual. I also want to draw things that I happen to be hyper fixating on. Robots, aliens, mecha, just anything.
I've been trying to learn construction in order to do this. Nothing else matters to me right now. Are you going to give me advice or not?
>B-but commission
No
>B-but ai
No
>B-but make visual novels
No
>b-but make novelization of visual works
No

I want to fucking make things myself without any help. Give me actual advice on how to accomplish this.

>>1530575
I've been writing as a hobby and role-playing for the past 12 years. It's not just simply a case of being in love with the idea and not actually wanting to do it. The last thing I wrote as a story was 2 years ago or so. The rest of the time I've been role-playing.

I want to make stories in a visual medium. All of the stories that I want to make would require a visual medium more than a literary one. It's impossible for me to actually write about any of the ideas I want to write about since they'd all fit something visual. I also want to draw things that I happen to be hyper fixating on. Robots, aliens, mecha, just anything.
I've been trying to learn construction in order to do this. Nothing else matters to me right now. Are you going to give me advice or not?
>B-but commission
No
>B-but ai
No
>B-but make visual novels
No
>b-but make novelization of visual works
No

I want to fucking make things myself without any help. Give me actual advice on how to accomplish this.

>>1530586
> I want to fucking make things myself without any help
>now help me achieve this
Topkek
You’re 100% a roleplaying troll but I’ll play along for 1 more post
Children draw without a care, they’re not bothered with “does this look nice, will others like it”, they just pull a crayon out of their nose and start scribbling
Do that.
Fill a single sided page with word vomit stream of consciousness.
Grab a pencil and doodle, even if it’s fucking scribbles that mean nothing
Now do this every day for at least half a year instead of posting these threads
No excuses. Put a little notepad on your nightstand and instead of scrolling, take a single fucking minute to pick up the notepad and do ANYTHING with it. Literally anything. Draw a dick for all i care, or if you’re watching something that appeals to you, pause it and draw it, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER IT IS GOOD OR NOT. Don’t even bother with tutorials or instructions or whatever; that’s for people who are already drawing at least every now and then and run into their own limitations. You’re out here asking how to even get started drawing, why tf would you care about anatomy when you don’t even ever hold a fucking pencil
The comic posted about is hilariously accurate though, you’re a mental baby complaining that you don’t know how to run a marathon, but you refuse to even fucking crawl, how you expect to learn to walk is beyond me.
I can’t make it any simpler

>>1530581
>Oh for fuck's sake. Yeah I've heard this a million times
The definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results
Accept the results, that's step one

>>1530592
So you're saying I'm not cut out for any creative hobby and should just give up? What was I writing and role-playing for 12 years for then?

>>1530593
So you're just going to repeat the same questions every day for the rest of your life and ignore all of the answers? Why do you keep making threads then?

>>1530593
yes
kill yourself

>>1530599
Because I know from personal experience that I've written plenty before. So it's not just a case of me "liking the idea of being creative but not actually doing it."

>>1530599
>Why do you keep making threads then?
because he gets replies from bozos like you

>>1530603
nigga all you write is "how do i learn how to draw" "i've tried it and gave up" and "why don't you give me real advice"
kill yourself

>>1530649
So what do I do?

>>1530688
You've gotten lots of tips on how to kill yourself. Jumping off a building and making sure to land headfirst is a simple way

Bump

Has anyone ever brought up Howie's retarded multi-year-long spamming campaign in the mod IRC?

>>1529911 (OP)
Build discipline and practice your craft. You need to acquire the building blocks of your chosen craft before you can build with them. Implement ideas from pic related and read "On Writing" by Stephen King in which he details the grind necessary for getting good enough to be successful in a creative field.

>>1529911 (OP)
Paul Schrader. BAFTA.

Bro even pewdiepie can learn! Just watch his video!!

You must start with mathematics
It will make it easier to correct your habits of extreme retardation

>>1531152
Okay but how do I start drawing?

>>1529911 (OP)
Just do shit. It takes me days to come up with something and weeks to finish, but i do it.

>>1531469
My antidepressants make me apathetic too.

>>1531470
get off the antidepressants, maybe you'll be depressed enough to kill yourself then

What do I do?

>>1531751
Quit bumping your thread and kill yourself Howie